Feminist RAGE QUITS Before Show?! Catholic Pro-Choice Bi Leftist?! Grandma BACK! | Dating Talk #250
Date: 2025-07-07
Duration: 9h 19m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_03Emily (Coach DT250)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Lucy (Data)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Marcelina(guest)
SPEAKER_07Holly (62)(guest)
SPEAKER_08Josie Marcelino(guest)
SPEAKER_09Mandy (Iran)(guest)
SPEAKER_10Maddie (Porn)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Eleanor(guest)
Key Moments
00:06:38
IntroAll 8 guests introduced
00:39:37
Key MomentMaddie: pays $170K alimony to first husband from 1-year marriage
06:33:34
Key MomentJosie: kidnapped on date at 20, stole truck, drove 100mph to escape
06:58:26
Key MomentMarcelina: ex put loaded gun to her head, doused car in acid, killed a girl, now in prison
07:42:18
ControversyMandy: explosive rant blaming feminism and weak men for societal decline
Topics Discussed
00:06:38
Guest Introductions
Including Mandy (Iran/Vancouver stripper with 3 properties) and Holly (62, Jackass Forever).
00:39:37
Maddie Alimony
Pays $170K total alimony to first husband from 1-year marriage.
01:44:33
Sex Work Discussion
Mandy: 'this shit sucks.' Advocates against sex work.
01:56:56
Male Loneliness Epidemic
Emily raises topic. Panel discusses causes.
06:33:34
Josie Kidnapping Story
Kidnapped on date at 20. Stole attacker's truck. Drove 100mph.
06:58:26
Marcelina Gun to Head
Ex put loaded gun to her head. Doused car in acid. Killed a girl. Now in prison.
09:00:00
Racism Definitions
Lucy argues only those with institutional power can be racist.
Transcript
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03:55:27
Lucy (Data)women, as you said, like we typically want to be taken care of. We want to feel safe and provided for. So, it makes sense for a woman to want to go for a man who is better than her. And especially now with women doing better
03:55:39
Lucy (Data)in the workforce and being more financially stable and independent, it might be a little bit more difficult to find a man who is better than her. So, that could also be why it seems like there is more stiff competition amongst women competing for the top percentage
03:55:52
Mandy (Iran)of men. I think that's part of the division too. The fact that women are doing better than men, that's like also not naturally iso, it's not supposed to be that way. And when we say we're better than men,
03:56:04
Mandy (Iran)like you think us financially being better than men is better than men actually because all our financial is because of men. So we're not really better than them. We just have a bunch of men taking care of us and then we judge the men that have no woman taking
03:56:17
Josie Marcelinocare of them. But financial, nothing about finances is natural. That's not something you'd find in the wild. Bears don't have currency. we could have met like I think it it was better before and it was more fair like years ago.
03:56:30
Emily (Coach DT250)So just generally speaking like just on a psychology standpoint like if you 90% of your beliefs are subconscious and if we and our reticular activating system is meant to find evidence for the thing
03:56:42
Emily (Coach DT250)that confirms our own beliefs. So different people have different truths and different realities. I'm not here to change your opinion or anybody else's opinion on what works for them because that's your personal empowerment and your personal choice. However, I am living breathing evidence as well as a
03:56:54
Emily (Coach DT250)lot of the women that I interact with that there are other values that you can live by and that there are other beliefs that you can live by and have different experiences that don't subscribe to some of the things that we're talking about here. Um, so what I always ask as a coach is really just like, do you like
03:57:08
Mandy (Iran)the results that you're getting from that mindset and that belief and do you feel empowered by it? I didn't have this mindset before and that's why I don't have the results that I wanted. I used to be a feminist. I used to believe in the things that you guys believe and that's why I'm where I
03:57:19
Mandy (Iran)am. And there's like then I realized when I actually matured and I'm no longer a 21-year-old's like this is so [ __ ] cool that I'm just like naked and I'm making millions of dollars. Then you start actually connecting with your
03:57:32
Mandy (Iran)natural and then you're like oh that's why there's the people that are more successful, the people that are better, the people that do better in society, they think that way. You know, whoever thinks this way is usually better. They're more in shape. They have more
03:57:45
Mandy (Iran)money. And there is a reason because when you think more connected to your nature and your natural instincts, you usually do better because that's how you win. And the people that don't think like that, they're usually they they
03:57:56
Josie Marcelinodon't have question. I don't remember it to be honest. You were going to ask me why it matters. Yeah. Why you you seem to be particularly bothered by average people
03:58:08
Josie Marcelinooverinflating their looks. Oh, I mean I don't uh it's I wouldn't say bothered. I would say it's amusing to me. But you said I just want average people to say that they're average. Why?
03:58:21
Brian AtlasI think brightness has a different value system first and foremost. So go ahead, Brian. You do. Well, I'd say first off, truth is important. So I mean this sort of
03:58:30
Brian Atlasthinking is the same stuff that is you know not to basically get into slippery slope stuff but uh this sort of mindset and thinking is what has basically
03:58:41
Brian Atlasbrought us to okay um yeah we should be allowed to give children pub puberty blockers uh we should allow uh biological males to compete in sports
03:58:52
Josie Marcelinowith women because it feels right. No, but you could make the argument that there's a medical you could make the argument that like puberty blockers to children have medical ramifications and
03:59:04
Josie Marcelinowomen or you know people who were born male who've transitioned competing in women's sports like you can make an argument that that hurts the other women. An average person saying that they're more than average looking hurts
03:59:16
Brian Atlasno one. It does nothing to anybody. Well, I'd like to provide a bit of push back for you and to answer your original question for why it matters. So, if you thought that you were more attractive
03:59:28
Brian Atlasthan you otherwise were, this is going to manifest itself in who you choose to date or who you choose to not date. So, for example, if if you think you and it
03:59:40
Brian Atlascould be the case that you here's here's why I want to be a bit charitable. Somebody could do this as a sort of confidence play to, you know, big up
03:59:51
Brian Atlasthem, but they might actually be somewhat realistic when it comes to the people that they're going to be uh pursuing romantically. But if somebody is delus genuinely delusional, and you
04:00:04
Brian Atlaswould agree with me that some people are genuinely delusional. Yeah. Yeah. and they're chasing after a certain caliber or league of person. She
04:00:14
Brian Atlasrejects that there's leagues. I find this a bit dubious, but uh then they're going to be constantly constantly disappointed. And this plays this is gendered though. It plays out very
04:00:26
Brian Atlasdifferently. Uh if I'm constantly shooting my shot with women who are outside my league, I'm instantly rejected. For example, if I if I were to step to a
04:00:37
Brian Atlaswoman, shoot my shot, I'm not getting a conversation. I'm not getting a date. Maybe I could get used for a foodie call, maybe. But in any case, I'm not getting anything further. I'm not getting any short-term sexual access.
04:00:49
Brian AtlasI'm not going to be I'm not going to be typically strung along for the purposes of her using me for sex for a couple weeks, a couple months.
04:00:58
Brian AtlasConversely, women who simply by being sexually available to men can have sexual relationships with men
04:01:09
Brian Atlaswho are outside of their league. But those men will never give those women anything else. They won't give them commitment. So, what ends up happening as a woman, you can test this out. If
04:01:21
Brian Atlasyou make yourself sexually available to men, you're going to encounter men who that's how women get into situationships and friend uh [ __ ] boys and dealing with that and oh, he won't commit to me.
04:01:34
Brian AtlasWho's more likely to be complaining about the opposite sex being unwilling to give them commitment? Men or women? Do you think it's men out there who are like, "Wow, there's this chick that's a
04:01:47
Brian Atlas[ __ ] but I really want her for like long-term commitment, and she won't give me commitment, but I can sleep with her." Is it more often the case that women are dealing with men that won't give them commitment or the reverse?
04:02:00
Josie MarcelinoI got commitment from somebody who was way out of my league. Way out of my league. Hold on. I get Was he? Yeah, he was substantially out of my league in every department. And Okay. Congratulations.
04:02:12
Josie MarcelinoCongratulations. So, it's not impossible to find somebody who's out of your league. And I'll say as a man, if you want to date women out of your league, become more charismatic, become more intricate. Charismatic. Hold on. But you said one body count.
04:02:25
Brian AtlasBut why don't you have one body count? I said I had one boyfriend. That's great. I can also point to women who I think are dating like for example, Jeff Bezos who's dating Lauren Sanchez or whatever. I think he could probably attract women who are way more
04:02:37
Brian Atlasattractive in like a very a bunch of metrics. So, I'm not saying that it's impossible. I'm just talking about a general statement here. So, why don't you answer my question then? Okay. Men. Okay. Generally speaking, who complains
04:02:49
Brian Atlasmore about not being able to procure commitment from the type of people that they want? Men or women? Women because men tech men typically
04:02:59
Josie Marcelinoprefer until they're ready to like start a family. They're they seek meaningless sex. They seek these casual relationships. Women tend to look for more commitment before engaging in a sexual relationship. So, I have a
04:03:12
Emily (Coach DT250)disagreement with this and I don't think it's necessarily a gender issue. I think it's more of an attachment style issue. As somebody who's an attachment coach, people who are typically anxiously attached are going to go after people
04:03:23
Emily (Coach DT250)who are emotionally unavailable and not willing to give them commitment. So, I I actually coach many many many men who are dating avoidant women who are obsessed and I mean that very
04:03:34
Emily (Coach DT250)respectfully because they're in a lot of pain. um but that are actively seeking out avoidant women, wanting commitment, wanting commitment, wondering why this person won't commit to them. Um and so I have direct experience on the opposite
04:03:47
Brian Atlasperspective. So again, it's way more of an attachment thing than a gender thing. Wait, so you're saying the the men, they're sleeping with these women and the women don't want to commit? Yeah.
04:03:59
Brian AtlasI don't dispute that this is something that occurs. However, I believe that the reverse is far more common. Well, men are typically more avoidant
04:04:10
Holly (62)than women. No, you even said yourself you you weren't really hot to get married. You got to speak into the mic.
04:04:19
Brian AtlasYou even said yourself you weren't hot to get married. You said why? Because you know you'd have to give up. I'm happy. Look, I'm happy to address my
04:04:30
Brian Atlasposition on marriage. That's a separate conversation. So, back to this. I genuinely think it's the case in terms of why it's important. Again, as a woman, you can get sexual access to men
04:04:43
Brian Atlaswho won't give you commitment. The reverse is just again, it can happen, but it's really really there's a massive differential. I mean, I think again like that's just
04:04:55
Emily (Coach DT250)like your perspective. And hey, it might be true if you took out data like you know from a big collective. It might happen more often for men or women or whatever it is. I'm just saying in my experience what I've seen is that if
04:05:06
Emily (Coach DT250)somebody is it's again way more of an emotional maturity and attachment style thing rather than women or men or whatever it is because there are plenty of people out there both men and women um who are seeking connection from
04:05:18
Emily (Coach DT250)somebody who's just fundamentally emotionally unavailable and that they're seeking that and that they're getting into these situations. I think men honestly are probably just less vocal about it. Wait, so just to be clear, you're saying men who won't give commitment, this is
04:05:30
Brian Atlasalways an indicator of them having an avoidant personality style. This is No, that's completely ridiculous. Men will happily have sex with women who they
04:05:40
Brian Atlaswill never commit to. So, and they don't have any uh avoidant dating style on the sole basis that that woman is just simply not physically attractive
04:05:51
Josie Marcelinoenough to give a relationship to, but they'll they'll keep her around for the easy access to sex. Women don't really operate that way. If she's perfect, if she's ready for you, if she wants to date you, if you're
04:06:03
Josie Marcelinohaving sex and it's good enough that you keep coming back for it, and the only reason he won't date her is because she's not physically attractive enough. Yes. The woman could meet can meet a whole bunch of his other metrics,
04:06:16
Brian Atlasbut she's just Yeah, she could be she could be pleasant to be around all this stuff, but she's just not physically attractive enough. I don't know any man that thinks like that. That's crazy. Is your perfect woman? She's just not
04:06:29
Josie Marcelinohot enough. Here dealt with a [ __ ] boy or been strung along in a situationship. Yeah, but the [ __ ] boy doesn't think you're his perfect woman other than your looks. The [ __ ] boy goes, "Oh, easy [ __ ] Cool. That's what it is. It's not
04:06:43
Josie Marcelinolike, "Oh my god, she's perfect. She makes me laugh. She's like my best friend. We get along so well. We're perfectly aligned in morals and in in our views in life." It's just that she's not hot enough for me.
04:06:56
Brian AtlasThey're just not getting that attached. I feel like some people don't want to be in relationship. Your whole argument would be then that okay, this person could be perfect for you, but if the physical component isn't there, they
04:07:08
Josie Marcelinoshould still date that person anyway if they love them. Yeah. If it's your perfect person and it's just you don't find them as attractive, then that sounds like they're checking a lot of boxes. Like hits all the boxes, but you're just
04:07:19
Brian Atlasnot physically attracted to them. It's you're physically attracted in some way. You're having sex with them. I think you underestimate the degree to which men will engage in a casual sexual maybe I just don't deal with men that
04:07:32
Brian Atlasare that you have you ever had a one night stand? Yeah, once. Once. Okay. Have you ever been in a situationship? No. No. Okay. So, perhaps you're a bit more
04:07:43
Brian Atlasuh discerning when it comes to who you're going to date. Women give sex for love. Sorry. Am I just making this up? Women have never struggled to get commitment
04:07:54
Brian Atlasfrom a guy. Am I Am I speaking like is that weird concept weird struggle to get commitment from the guys that they're attracted to? It's not the situation that like she's
04:08:05
Josie Marcelinoperfect and she checks all of my boxes, but I think I could get somebody a little bit hotter. Like I don't think that that's the the thing that they're running into. Here's what I do with that is that I feel like people like having options.
04:08:17
Emily (Coach DT250)Very possible nowadays probable that there is Sorry, did I interrupt me? No, you can go. Okay. I think it's very possible and probable that is there a collective of men out there who are just weighing their options and waiting for the better
04:08:29
Emily (Coach DT250)thing or that's what I was saying. There is a population of them out there not going to lie. There is a population of women that do accept that treatment from them and do accept that level of standards from them. Um but first and
04:08:41
Emily (Coach DT250)foremost again to what you said earlier just because somebody's not physically attracted or wants to commit to somebody does not automatically make them avoid it. Let me make that clear. Um however
04:08:51
Emily (Coach DT250)emotional unavailability on a general spectrum is that hey I am not willing to commit to you because of XYZ reasons whether it's because of your attractiveness your morals your values
04:09:02
Emily (Coach DT250)etc etc etc. So again are there are there populations out there that go underneath these beliefs? Yes. But I'm talking about the people who are actually like in my opinion in my values ready for commitment are looking for
04:09:14
Josie Marcelinosomething deeper than that. Can I ask you what you personally think if you're going to use the rating system what is the number that you think you
04:09:23
Josie Marcelinocould max get you personally like what number of women? Uh it varies. No, but like your your maximum that you
04:09:34
Brian Atlasif it's just looks the maximum that you could get again. But I already stated that when it comes to attraction, there's other components besides just looks. I know that. And so there's other things that can
04:09:46
Brian Atlasmake you attractive. Status, money, personality, but just looks, etc. I feel like at least for me, I don't know if it's ex entirely fair to
04:09:58
Brian Atlasit wouldn't be entirely fair for me to answer this question, but if you were to ask an average guy, this No, no. I'm not asking an average guy. I'm asking because I'm getting to another point, but let me ask you directly like right now and you can
04:10:09
Brian Atlasfactor in your status and popular wise I think looks wise I can uh I think I could get up to a seven. Okay. But I think I'm bringing a lot of other things to the table besides just looks. So,
04:10:21
Josie Marcelinoand I agree with that. But on on look scale, yeah, like five. But you you think that you could right now just with everything that you've got going on in your life, you could attain a seven and that's the ceiling for you. You think that?
04:10:34
Brian AtlasYeah, probably. With everything you have, all your success, you can get a 10. That's I don't think I can. You can get a 10 with success. I'm not debating what you can have, what you can't have. I'm saying Hold on. It's not I'm being realistic. It's not a lack of confidence.
04:10:47
Josie MarcelinoThat's fine. So, you think you could get a seven and that's the ceiling? Totally fine. If you got a six right now who checked all of your boxes, she was everything that you've ever wanted in a
04:10:57
Brian Atlaswoman, but she was a six and you could get a seven. Are you committing? Uh, am I committing? Let's think about this. And she's everything I want. She's everything you want, but she is a six. Well, just to be clear,
04:11:11
Josie Marcelinoand you can get a seven. Yeah, sure. She'll be She can be my girlfriend. Okay. Yeah. Hey, but Brian, is this like is that an own like I wasn't trying to own you. I'm trying to understand your point of view on this
04:11:21
Josie Marcelinocuz you're saying that there's guys who will have everything perfect woman but will reject her and not commit to her because he thinks that he can get a little bit better in the looks department.
04:11:33
Brian AtlasWell, hold on. No, no, no. That's not exactly what I'm saying. If there's a guy who say say he's an eight or whatever, sure. He might entertain in terms just for a
04:11:45
Brian Atlasshort-term casual thing a woman who's a six or a five. And you're adding on a qualifier of oh well she also meets like all his other prerequisites. That was my point. But but hold on. But men will
04:11:58
Brian Atlasalso sleep with women who are less attractive who also don't really meet their other like personality. Sure. Uh standards, too.
04:12:08
Josie MarcelinoYeah. And they won't get into sex. It's just for sex. And that's Yeah. Men will have sex with a McChick if left to their own devices. We've seen that. But I'm saying like, you're saying, "Oh, well,
04:12:19
Josie Marcelinowomen aren't getting commitment just because she's not attractive enough." And I'm saying, "Well, no, she might not be attractive enough. Like, she might not be the women that do have commitment,
04:12:30
Holly (62)but the men, like I get all the time, are married men. So, how great is a commitment when they're still on the chase? It's great. I But also, there are plenty of women
04:12:43
Lucy (Data)because we all have needs, right? And so, maybe we meet a man, and this maybe has never happened to our host, but we meet a man who checks some of our boxes, but not all of them. So, we can entertain them for something short-term or temporary or realize this is not our
04:12:55
Lucy (Data)forever person, but they're fine for now, which is how you get into short-term flings. And maybe the man wants commitment or not, but you still know in your heart that this man is not the one for you, but he will do or
04:13:06
Emily (Coach DT250)suffice for now. I would I would somewhat agree that there that women have a more likely possibility of looking at a man's potential rather than seeing the reality in front of him. I would say that's true. Yeah, definitely.
04:13:19
Brian AtlasI mean, I I would perhaps even we can look at cases of celebrity. Like I think it's far more likely the case that if you look at somebody, I don't know, like
04:13:29
Brian Atlasthese famous musicians, they're going to deal with a girl that that's short term. They're not going to give her why you dated a rapper or something. No. Uh
04:13:40
Brian AtlasI can't just smile and look at you. Oh, sure. Okay. Got a husband. Okay. Pump the price. Not like that. I know. I know. I'm just messing. Um, but look, I guess what I'm trying to get
04:13:50
Brian Atlasat is because of this differential in terms of procuring sex, if a woman is dealing with certain caliber of guy, she's then going to look at the guys who are actually in her who are actually her
04:14:04
Brian Atlaslooks equivalent, who are actually in her league. She's going to think she's settling for those guys and she's going to keep chasing these guys who are out of her league. We all look when it comes to dating, we all want to get the best
04:14:15
Brian Atlasthat we can get. The difference is as men, we typically get rejected on the front end, whereas you women, you'll get rejected on the back end. So, you might dispute this, but I do think it's the
04:14:27
Brian Atlascase that as women, you have more sexual access to men than the reverse. So, again, if I step to a girl and she's out of my league, boom, instant rejection. I'm not she's not going to be like,
04:14:39
Brian Atlas"Well, he's pleasant. He's making himself sexually available. I guess I'll [ __ ] him like a couple times." Men will definitely think that. Like men will
04:14:49
Brian Atlasdefinitely have sex with you and not want anything to do with you. Here, here's another way I could paint this. If I can sleep with a girl, I have a
04:15:00
Brian Atlasvery high confidence level that I can get her into a relationship. I'm very confident if I can sleep with her, I can get her into a relationship. I don't know if you can say the same thing about
04:15:11
Brian Atlaswomen. Like do you think like as a woman if you sleep with a dude are you really confident? Like how confident are you that you can for sure get him into a relationship?
04:15:24
Mandy (Iran)There's a lot of dudes that are willing to hang out with me and they they are very very high level and they're not willing to date me. They're going to go date someone that is not me and it's fine. But I can get them and it's very it feels very good. Like there's been people that I've been watching since I
04:15:36
Mandy (Iran)was like 10 years old and I'm hanging out with them. But it doesn't mean they're going to take me serious and it's fine. It's it's part of their nature. But if I'm hanging out with them and they say they're down to date me, [ __ ] yeah, I would date them. What the [ __ ] do you mean? They're they're great. But then that's but that's the the only
04:15:50
Mandy (Iran)people that I hang out with, I'm willing to date them because they're good enough. That's why I'm sleeping with them in the first place. I want him to like take care of me and be my man. That's why I'm doing it. But then for them, they're like, "No, it's just another [ __ ] girl and a banger.
04:16:02
Mandy (Iran)It's a risk. It's fine. Anything that goes back to that that goes back to men's nature because that's in their nature. It's in their blood because they want to impregnate impregnate as what do you what do you think about which question?
04:16:14
Brian AtlasI don't know what we're talking about now. Uh so I I just said that if I me as a man if I can sleep with a girl I have a high degree of confidence I can then get her into a long-term
04:16:26
Brian Atlasrelationship. I think at least as it applies to women Yeah. I think women are going to be far less confident in their ability just because they can have sex with a guy Yeah. doesn't typically doesn't always
04:16:39
Marcelinanecessarily translate to them being able to get them into a relationship. Can I ask you something because this really drives me crazy. Well, hold on. Let's let her answer. Okay. And then you can I I agree with you. I mean, there's been times like I've found a guy like hot
04:16:52
Marcelinalike physically or whatever. And then there's been like other aspects I didn't like, but like I don't know, maybe we had like good chemistry, but there's also been times like I I just want to [ __ ] like and we've like we've like stayed I don't know a fling. I don't want to say like maybe situationship,
04:17:06
Marcelinabut there's been also times where like I've established like I've wanted a relationship with him and he never wanted one, but he openly said, "I don't want to date anybody, but would keep me around." And I was okay with that cuz I
04:17:18
Marcelinaalso was like, "Oh, I like being single, so like you're fun. Like, I think we have a good time together and I'm okay with just being your fling." Can I ask you this though? Yeah. Um, I understand that maybe you were just looking for something casual
04:17:30
Brian Atlasjust in terms of your own like what you were looking for. Yeah. But of the men even that you had casual encounters with, would you say that if you were looking
04:17:41
Brian Atlasfor a relationship and they were looking for a relationship, they were at least physically attractive enough for you to be in a relationship with them?
04:17:54
Brian AtlasOr do you go slumbming? something. Yeah. Do you like when you have casual sex, you know? Because my what I've understood is typically when women go
04:18:05
Brian Atlasfor just a casual encounter, they prioritize in the opposite direction of how men work, if they're like, if a woman is maybe not as particularly interested in a just a casual one night
04:18:17
Brian Atlasstand, if she's going to break her rule, she's going to break the rule for the really, really, really hot, attractive guy. Whereas men work the opposite way. Men are going to in an effort to procure
04:18:29
Brian Atlassaid casual encounter. They're just going to they'll they'll get with a girl that they would never be they would never date this girl. But just to get the [ __ ] they'll
04:18:41
MarcelinaI mean I'm very I'm very I'm very picky. Like granted all my exes or whatever, none of them look alike and sometimes my friends are like like who the [ __ ] are you picking?
04:18:52
MarcelinaBut I'm also very like if you're per like everything matters and like I don't [ __ ] on the first date. It's just like I want to get to know you and there's been times like I don't know ended up hooking up with them and then over time I'm like no but like you're fun enough to keep
04:19:05
Brian Atlasaround. I just don't want to like necessarily deal with your stuff. But right so that you can you can make some sort of determination like okay this person has baggage or maybe they're toxic. They're not the person that I'd
04:19:18
Brian Atlaswant to be in like a healthy loving relationship with. But the qu the going back to the question is of the casual sexual encounters you've had. Yeah. Have you ever had one with a guy that
04:19:29
Brian Atlaspurely on the basis of his physical looks you would not then be in a relationship with him because okay you just wanted to get a nut get your nut off or did I sorry I'm not Gen Z. I don't know what the [ __ ] you guys say.
04:19:42
Brian AtlasBust a nut. Uh you wanted Has that ever been the case? Or have all the men you've slept with, even the casual encounters, they were good-looking enough for you to
04:19:53
Marcelinabe in a relationship with? Well, I think the whole good-looking like one out of 10 rating is like they all look different. So like, but you were attracted to all of them, right?
04:20:04
MarcelinaI was, but it's like I maybe like my mindset on like physical looks is jaded, but like I don't know. I mean, I've like hooked up with like really hot guys and like they've said one thing and it like set me off and I'm like you're tolerable
04:20:16
Marcelinaso I'll keep hooking up with you, but like eh and then there's been guys where I'm like I mean I think like if I'm with you like I think you're beautiful but like there's been guys where like I guess you would say they're like a seven but still in my head I'm like I don't know why like you're beautiful but
04:20:29
Brian Atlasyou're a seven to me but like yeah I don't know I'd still like any girls here have you guys ever had a casual encounter with a guy that on the
04:20:37
Brian Atlassole basis disregard if you were not looking for uh a relationship, he had some baggage, issues, whatever that would have disqualified him from a
04:20:49
Brian Atlasrelationship. But on the sole basis of his looks alone, anybody here who hooked up with a dude who you're like had sex with a guy and you're Yeah. You're like, he was just not he's not good-looking enough to be in a
04:21:01
Brian Atlasrelationship with. No, I don't. Cuz I can tell you that men definitely have sex with women that will never that they're just they're just looking for the sex.
04:21:13
Maddie (Porn)I thought a guy dumped me because I gained weight. So I mean I've had a se I've had sex with a lot of men. Well so like you know that's you. But also men and women for work. Yeah. So like some of the men I've had sex with are definitely not attractive
04:21:28
Maddie (Porn)to me. But also men and women Okay. But that was for work, right? I mean, I did it for an artwork, too. I think there's women that do it just for the funsies. I mean, yeah.
04:21:39
Brian AtlasOkay. Well, you're Are you a sex addict? No, not at all. Okay. All right. I think the woman I was just I'm not disputing that like, you know, women will do a pity [ __ ] every once in a while and they'll No, I
04:21:51
Brian AtlasShrek looking guy. I used to really go for ugly men. I used to like really go for ugly men. Okay, sure. It happens. I just like I just like ugly. I've been made fun of
04:22:03
Brian Atlasas a sort of general principle here. Look, yeah, women will have a casual sexual encounter with I don't know, whatever. Maybe alcohol is involved. Who knows? You got to the beer goggles on. You're like, "Fuck, this guy's ugly."
04:22:15
Brian AtlasWhatever. I get it. It happens. But as a sort of generalized principle, I do think it's the case that there's a massive differential here when it comes to like if I just I mean we can
04:22:28
Josie Marcelinoeven test it, but if if as a guy you just you you're just pleasant and you're like want some dick ah that's not really enough. But women will date the ugly guy because
04:22:40
Josie Marcelinoshe loves him and he makes her feel good. Like there's everybody on this has a friend who you're like that's him and this is you. Well, here's my other criticism though
04:22:51
Brian Atlasis I think women's appraisal of men's attractiveness is uh very lacking in generosity and women's appraisals of their own attractiveness or other
04:23:02
Josie Marcelinowomen's attractiveness is very generous. Well, women very generous. women. We see beautiful women in every element of our lives. Like just advertisements, you're you're getting beautiful women in your face. Oh, even
04:23:15
Josie Marcelinoall day, every day. And yeah, in person, but women also tend to put a little bit more effort into their appearance on average than men do. Sure, I'll grant it. Why not? Yeah, it makes sense to kind of see
04:23:27
Emily (Coach DT250)women and femininity as this beautiful thing we we that's shoved down our throats every day. I also think then I I believe in masculine and feminine polarity, too. that women and men have certain fundamental differences. And I think
04:23:39
Emily (Coach DT250)women are more likely to see the complete picture of somebody than rather than just on the physical thing just because women are more intuitive and internal and men are typically just more external and visually driven.
04:23:51
Josie MarcelinoAnd I think we have an easier time seeing a guy who is maybe not so attractive. Uh we see his personality. You can take status and whatever into account as well, but sometimes you see a
04:24:01
Josie Marcelinopersonality and you're like, I know he's ugly, but he's cute. Like Post Malone is an ugly man and that's okay, but like then you see his interviews and
04:24:11
Brian AtlasI don't I actually don't I mean he's a little you know a lot of tattoos and he's got he lost some weight though recently. Yeah. But I'm saying like in his He's actually not a like he's not a bad
04:24:23
Josie Marcelinolooking guy. Jeremy Allen White fine. He's very He's the guy from the Bear. He looks like a rat from Shameless. Yeah. Everybody said like, "Oh, it's Rat Boy Summer." when he came out with his TV show because he was like the new hunk and he's not that attractive.
04:24:36
Brian AtlasBut I mean, again, people like the character that he plays, but Right. But you're using Post Malone as example here and he's a incredibly successful music artist, talented,
04:24:48
Brian Atlascreative, has a good personality. Like you said, he's got a lot of positive characteristics going for him. And also, I don't think he's not like I don't think he's an ugly dude, to be fair.
04:24:58
Josie MarcelinoBut, um, but if you put him working at a 7-Eleven, but that happens, too. Every girl, every girl on this panel has a friend who at
04:25:08
Josie Marcelinoone time you're like, he works at AutoZone and he's a four and he's not even that nice. Why do you like him? And they're like, I just he makes me laugh.
04:25:18
Brian AtlasI don't know. Like, they that happens. Yeah, I get that people date people, but I think I'm I'm more looking towards okay, what what is the gravitational
04:25:29
Brian Atlaspull? Right. So, in terms of the gravitational pull, I think that again, you have these women who are frankly delusional when it comes to their own self assessment of their physical
04:25:40
Brian Atlasattractiveness. They're going to be chasing a certain caliber of dude. I think it's a bad recipe. I think it's a recipe for disaster. Then they're going to and they're maybe going to move
04:25:50
Brian Atlasthrough their 20s dealing with these dudes. Maybe they get a situationship, maybe it's a couple months. Some dudes will string a girl along for months or even years, right?
04:26:01
Brian AtlasI think I think what you end up what you have happening is that when it comes time to like, okay, who's going to be my husband? Who am I going to have kids
04:26:12
Brian Atlaswith? These women are going to almost have this sort of uh resentment towards their partner because they done dealt with a bunch of really
04:26:24
Brian Atlasreally attractive dudes when they were younger because they could get sexual access to them. Now when they're a bit older, they're and they're okay. Oh [ __ ] none of these guys gave me commitment. H but I'm I think I'm this
04:26:36
Brian Atlascaliber. I've dealt with this caliber of man. Now I'm settling. Even though if you actually look at both of these people, they're actually equivalent. Their looks equivalent. What are you basing this off of? I feel
04:26:47
Josie Marcelinolike you just wrote this story as fanfiction in your head. I don't know a woman that's in this position. You don't What do you mean? I don't know a woman who's like, "All right, well, I slept with a bunch of really hot guys in my 20s and now I'm in
04:26:59
Josie Marcelinomy late 30s and I can't find a husband that's as attractive and checks all these boxes." What's the average marriage for? I don't know the average age of marriage. You don't know? No.
04:27:12
Brian AtlasI if I believe it's I think it's one or two years older for men, but I think it's like 2930 for men and maybe 27 28 for women. Okay.
04:27:20
Josie MarcelinoSo, okay. What are they doing from 18 to 28? What are you asking me in in my scenario? I'm saying, okay, what I was saying is I
04:27:34
Josie Marcelinodon't think you're going to get women who were just sleeping with super hot guys in their 20s, get to their 30s, and be like, "Well, now I have to settle for this ugly guy." And then just be mad and be like, "I wish you were hotter. I
04:27:46
Holly (62)dated hotter guys in my 20s that I don't." And then and then they break up. Look, I'm not saying it's the case for all women. I don't even think it's the case for most women are looking for love. They
04:27:56
Brian Atlaswant a guy that's going to be kind. It's even 30% 40%. That's a huge swath of the population. I don't know the precise numbers exactly. They are saying that uh
04:28:06
Brian AtlasI think it was by 20 what is 2030 2040 like something like 45 55% of women are going to be single at the age of 30 or 40 something like that. So the singleness uh that's pretty evident
04:28:19
Josie Marcelinohere. But but is the singleness just because standards that women are setting have gotten higher? Not necessarily in attractiveness. I get that you're saying that women are over inflating their attractiveness, whatever. I don't think that that's the standard that women are staying single for. I think that women
04:28:32
Josie Marcelinoare staying single because they want a man who is emotionally intelligent, respectful, who they feel loves them, who is at a certain place in their career or wants a family, and who isn't just like looking for whatever the the
04:28:44
Brian Atlasnext best thing might be. D, just to be clear, the genesis, you asked me why it's important, and so I'm providing you with my answer. So I do think that it it it is the case that
04:28:56
Brian Atlasthis is a phenomenon that's happening and perhaps you're denying it. You are you saying that what I'm describing you don't think it maps on to reality at all? Not in what I see in my day-to-day life.
04:29:07
Brian AtlasSo you don't think like I don't know if what percentage of women would you attribute that this is the dynamic that's happening? I couldn't even give you an estimate because I don't encounter that. You've never you don't encounter it?
04:29:19
Josie MarcelinoNo. I have single female friends. I have married female friends like I I but I'm not running to into anybody in that situation. I'm just curious where do you live? Philly. Philadelphia. Yeah. And I I work in New York primarily
04:29:32
Brian Atlasin a major urban city and area. Yeah. Maybe that's how it is out here in California. This is Philadelphia to uh or Philly to uh New York City. It's about an hour and a half train ride. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's like huge swats of
04:29:44
Brian Atlaswomen, for example, in like major metropolitan areas like New York City where like you would think there's an abundance of options, but all these women are massively complaining about not being able to find men, right,
04:29:56
Brian Atlasdeep into their late 20s and into their and that's not because they're not they're finding men that they're not attracted to on a physical level. Mass I think it's a massive component that women have and and there's a lot of factors. I don't want to just put it
04:30:09
Brian Atlassolely on this, but I do think it is the case that because women have become accustomed to having the sexual access to certain caliber of men, again, I think there's other components, too. I think men need to level up in a lot of
04:30:21
Brian Atlasways also. But I do think it's the case that once you done dealt with a certain caliber of dude, it's very, very hard to go back to Joe Schmo, Mr. Average Guy.
04:30:31
Brian AtlasAnd if you're an average woman, let's be real, like here's what I see. Average women don't want average men. That's the problem I see. I think it's because now the average woman is out earning and outperforming
04:30:43
Brian Atlasand higher educated than the man than the average man component. Okay. So I think that's the factor. I don't think it's attractiveness. I I do think it is also attractiveness. But I would agree that it's also so uh
04:30:55
Josie Marcelinosocioeconomically too. Yeah. And sure in the '60s our mothers or grandmothers used to settle for guys that maybe didn't check all the boxes because they couldn't have a bank account. But now you can do all of
04:31:06
Josie Marcelinoyou're not limited by that. We don't have to rely on men to survive in the same way that we did 50 years ago. I'm not even making an argument. So your standards are going to be higher, right? But I'm not even making an argument about providing.
04:31:18
Josie MarcelinoI'm not saying I'm saying that that is why I think you're seeing a bigger disparity because women don't need men. They don't need to settle for men who aren't checking all the boxes like they did 50 years ago. If you were a single
04:31:30
Brian Atlaswoman 50 years ago, luck, baby. So women are deprioritizing the things that have traditionally made men attractive to women and they're over prioritizing what? Physical attractiveness, emotional availability and support.
04:31:42
Brian AtlasOkay, hold on. If women are deprioritizing the things that were traditionally uh the things that traditionally deemed a man attractive, which would be being a provider, uh then what are the the things the metrics by
04:31:55
Brian Atlaswhich women are going to find men attractive? They're going to be uh physical attractiveness. No, they had Do you think women in 2025 care more about looks than they did in uh 1950? No, because they had to just settle to survive.
04:32:09
Brian AtlasBut do you think they care more about looks? Hold on. Let's I think they care more about emotional availability. Go ahead and grant that. But I also think society has moved way more into a superficial uh realm. I think back in
04:32:20
Brian Atlasthe 1950s, people probably didn't pri even men did not prioritize like physical attractiveness to the degree that we do now. Absolutely. That just is inherent with social media and with the gamified version of dating that we have with
04:32:35
Josie Marcelinoapps. And I think we're also talking specifically about the population that is prepping for marriage, not just dating and being in pre-ficial relationships. Yeah. If you're looking for actual marriage, the reason that that metric has gone down, the reason that less
04:32:48
Brian Atlaswomen are settling is because they don't need to out of survival. Well, I mean, I suppose I could explain it like this. One thing that comes to mind, I guess, to perhaps try to articulate the phenomenon that's happening. Um, have you ever did you you
04:33:01
Brian Atlaswent to college, right? Yes. Did you live in a dorm room where you shared a room? Okay. Well, here here locally, we have University of California, Santa Barbara. Uh the college students oftentimes are
04:33:11
Brian Atlasin dorm rooms up to two, three, four people in a room. There's bunk beds, right? And then sometimes there's like a shared shower between two dorm rooms, so eight people to a shower or there's like communal
04:33:23
Brian AtlasI'm familiar with them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's very hard like once you get out of college and then you go say you have a good career and then you get your own place and you have your own
04:33:35
Brian Atlasroom and your own bathroom. It becomes really hard to go back once you've had that experience of having your like own private space to go back to having like
04:33:46
Brian Atlasa bunk bed and having a not not a housemate a roommate. In that same way, once women have dealt with a certain
04:33:54
Holly (62)caliber of dude, it's going to be really hard to then like potentially downgrade. Women want love. It's as simple as that. They don't want love. Why are you making Why are you making it
04:34:07
Brian Atlasso complicated? Also something that people do, and I think men do this, too. I I call this the sort of amalgamation effect. So you you let's say you've dated five people and each one of those five people have
04:34:19
Brian Atlashad like a specific characteristic about them that was ideal. So maybe one for example for when it comes to women and what they find attractive. One boyfriend he was really funny. The other boyfriend
04:34:32
Brian Atlasgreat in the sack. The other boyfriend was rich. The other one was really good-looking. And then you you've seen all these characteristics in individual boy and some of them might have multiple
04:34:42
Brian Atlasof these characteristics. Uh but now you've had all of these experiences and you now want to what you want is an amalgamation of all these positive characteristics that you've encountered
04:34:54
Josie Marcelinoin dating. The reality is I think you got to pick two. But if you get two, that's it. Well, you're the one saying that men won't commit if they can't get the one which is the most attractive.
04:35:05
Josie MarcelinoI didn't say that. We had a whole 40minute conversation about it. What? Restate the position. You said that there are men that will not date women just because they're not they'll sleep with them, but they're not
04:35:17
Josie Marcelinoattractive enough to date them. And I said if they have all the No, he said date commit to commit relationship. I I consider a exclusive dating relationship. Let me respond really quick to that and
04:35:29
Brian Atlasthen I'll let you do it. So, okay. They they've actually done a study on this and they they ask men if we could give you 80% of what you want and I forgot I forget the exact numbers but maybe
04:35:42
Brian Atlasshould we look it up? It doesn't really matter. I'll just say that a higher proportion of men said oh yes 80% of what I want in a partner that's fantastic. I would love that. I will I don't know if the term is settle but I
04:35:54
Brian Atlaswill accept 80% of the things I want. Maybe they're missing 20% whatever. You do that same thing with women and they say, "Nope, I'm not settling for 80%. I want it all." Who did that study? It was literally It was a It was a poll.
04:36:08
Brian AtlasI don't know. It was a Facebook poll. It was Buzzfeed. If it's been done, we can pull it up. Nick, can you try to find it? Because she's she's I would like to see that cuz I don't believe that. I think it's probably 80% for both genders. That's my assumption.
04:36:20
Josie Marcelino80% of I don't know. I wouldn't say what they want. Let me see if that either. I know. I'm I'm joking. But I feel like that's why I was like, "Yeah, a Facebook poll." Yeah.
04:36:32
MarcelinaNot against him, honestly. I feel like if you really like the person, that's where like compromising communication comes in, though. Cuz there's been guys where I'm like, I really don't like this little thing about them, but I'm like, I'm going to
04:36:45
Marcelinatell them how I feel. If they're going to handle it and be a dick, then I don't want you. If they're open to trying, then I'm going to continue trying to see if maybe a relationship is in the books with them. Sure. It depends on your personal deal breakers.
04:36:58
Josie MarcelinoThat Yeah, that too. 100%. Yeah. I'll say for me personally, I with you know my last relationship, I
04:37:07
Josie Marcelinocannot imagine like that was incredible on all on all levels. And while it's hard for me to imagine being in another relationship, I know I'm 30 years old and there is a possibility that that
04:37:19
Josie Marcelinocould happen for me at some point. It's what was that a shock to? Go ahead. Go ahead. 30. Uh oh, yeah. Big scary number. Um but yeah, I mean I know that that's a
04:37:31
Josie Marcelinopossibility, but it's like I can't imagine that there's going to be another person that measures up to every area of life that he had all his success in. Wait, so just to be clear, you're going to be comparing all your future
04:37:43
Brian Atlaspotential partners to your ex? I mean, I don't I don't know. I'm seven months out. I don't know. Um, we need to read a couple chats here. And Nick, you probably the Oh, the question is, and here, why don't we pose it? Maybe I should have asked it first.
04:37:56
Brian AtlasWould you be willing going around the table to settle for a guy who meets 80% of your standards? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Okay. All right.
04:38:08
EleanorI gave it away. Yeah. Would you I would say, you know, like if we're willing to work together about things that we need to change, then Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Let's do some chats. Uh Nick, do you have the age thing pulled up?
04:38:22
Brian AtlasYeah. All right. Uh Py George, a lot of mid to ugly women, including fat ones, go to Africa simply to get poured by the black men there because the men in their own countries are avoiding them like the
04:38:33
Brian Atlasplague because of feminism. Is this a phenomenon in like Jamaica or something? thing I think I've heard about uh Jamaica, Nigeria, and Tunisia are the three hot spots for female sex toys. Casey George, he says, "Chair
04:38:45
Brian Atlasfour, don't be simple. It's women's biological instinct that drives them to go for the best possible mate. You can't fight biology just as a trans person can't be something they're not."
04:38:56
Brian AtlasOkay, there's Pacy George again. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. If I met a woman who is everything that I wanted, she would be my girlfriend. But the moment I find out that she has a high body count, has baggage, or has any
04:39:08
Brian Atlasfeministic influence, she is dumped. Show of hands. Who here is a feminist? Oh, damn. Okay, we got some feminists here. Uh, going around the table super quick. Do you think you'll be better
04:39:19
Brian Atlaslooking in 10 years time? So, you're 25. Will you be better looking at 35? No. You're 23. Will you be better looking at 33? No. You're 30 better looking at 40?
04:39:31
Josie MarcelinoProbably. Better looking at 50? Uh, it depends on how much I'm making. Can you tilt your mic down just a bit? Sorry. Or posture works too. Uh, 60. 30 years. Probably not by 60, but who knows with
04:39:43
Josie Marcelinomedical science. So, better looking at 50 versus 30? Definitely better looking at 40 than 30. 50 again. It just depends on where I am financially. And then, uh, going back 10 years, were you better looking at 20 or now at 30? No, now at 30.
04:39:56
Brian AtlasOkay. Why is that? Just I was morbidly obese. Okay, that probably checks out. Um, uh, 23, better looking in 10 years time at 33.
04:40:05
Brian AtlasDifferent, but still good. So, and by the way, you can say just as good-looking, too, I guess. Yeah. So, just as good-looking, more better looking. Just as good, just different. Okay. 43. 20 years.
04:40:19
Brian AtlasSame answer. Uh, 30 years, 53, same answer. 40 years, 63, same answer. 50 years, 73, same answer. 60 years, 83, same answer. 70 years 93.
04:40:32
Emily (Coach DT250)It's all going to be the same answer. 80 years 103. I don't know how the human body can survive that, but it's I mean people can live to their uh So do do you know do you have a sense of
04:40:43
Emily (Coach DT250)when you'll peak? I don't really I mean you might not like this answer but like I don't I think women will just look different over time and subjectively speaking from or um again if you take the Buzzfeed poll I'm sure
04:40:56
Brian Atlasother people will disagree but I think I'll just look different. Not any better, any worse? Okay. Uh, what about you? Yes. Okay. So, you're 20 or wait, hold on. You're 31, excuse me. Better looking in
04:41:09
Brian Atlas10 years time at 41. Yes. 20 years time, 51? Yes. 30 years time 61? I would say yes. 40 40 years time 71. At that point, I might start to croak a little bit. That's the Okay. And then you're 31.
04:41:23
Lucy (Data)Were you better looking at 21 or better looking now? I would say now, just because I had taken better care of myself. Do you have any photos of you when you're 21? Yes. Not on me, but I mean on your phone? Yeah. I mean, they exist. Yes.
04:41:35
Brian AtlasOkay. You maybe when you go back there, you can send them and we'll do a let the audience decide. Okay. You're 25. Better looking in 10 years. Yes. 35. Yes. 20 years 45. Oh, about the same. Same.
04:41:48
MarcelinaYeah. Uh 30 years 55. Maybe then I'll start being a little 25 to 55. Better looking one. I feel like I'd peak around like 35
04:42:00
Marcelinacuz like now from like even years ago I feel like I was always like good-looking but I've taken a lot better care of myself and I see it progress so I'm like okay I think I'll so gross. All right, Holly uh into the mic if you can. You're 62 better looking in 10
04:42:13
Holly (62)years time 72. I'm just going to sail it on through. Yeah, I'm going to look like this for and I'm going to be wearing the same thing too. This is my uniform
04:42:24
Brian Atlasforever. It's her uniform. All right. Uh what? And then going back in time 10 years ago, 52 better looking or better looking now? Well, let's just into the mic. Into the mic. Into the
04:42:35
Holly (62)mic. Okay. Um 18 to about 22. I was smoking hot. Uh it hit the fan when I was 28 to
04:42:46
Holly (62)about 32. Wasn't looking so good. Hit the fan. Hit the [ __ ] Yeah. about uh I got really smoking hot at 42 and I didn't even know it. It was
04:42:58
Brian Atlasother people telling me that. Okay, I think that sufficiently answers my question. Thank you. Uh you're 20 27 better looking in 10 years time at 37. I think I'm going to still look beautiful, but will you be better looking? I thought we have the option to say like
04:43:11
Brian Atlaswe we're going to still look good-looking. Well, you can say you're you'll be just as good-looking. I'm not. The question is, will you not be attractive or be attractive? You can still be attractive as you get older, but it's a comparison.
04:43:26
Brian AtlasSo, I think I'll be just as good-looking. Just as good-looking. Okay. 20 years time, 47. Yeah. Just as good-looking, more more good-looking. Mhm. So, from 27 to 37, not better looking, but just the same. Yeah.
04:43:38
Brian AtlasOkay. Uh 57, 30 years. Mhm. 67 40 years. Yes. 77 50 years. Yes. 8760 years. I would hope that I'd be dead by then, but yeah.
04:43:51
Eleanor97 70 years. Same answer, but yeah. 107 80 years. 100 is too long to live. I should be dead by then, for sure. But yeah. Okay. Um, interesting. So, wait. And you said you
04:44:04
Emily (Coach DT250)just you will keep getting better looking, right? No, just different. Just different. Like I'm going to do my best to take care of my body, eat good nutrition, and use the resources I have available. But yeah, I think that I'll just look different and that beauty is
04:44:16
Josie Marcelinodifferent in every age. Okay. I mean, all right. It's an answer. My mom wasn't attractive in her 20s, but
04:44:24
Josie Marcelinoin her 30s and 40s, she was smoking hot. Like, she got better with age. Love to see it. I mean, I'd have to see the the photo. I can send you photos. But yeah, she was Yeah, my mom still
04:44:38
Josie Marcelinokind of cooked the whole weight loss thing or is No, she's always been very very skinny. It's her face and her hair. She just she kind of I don't know. It's just one of those things. She got better looking with age. All right. I mean, this whole age thing,
04:44:48
Brian AtlasI just feel like you guys like you say you'll be Who here thinks they'll be better looking as they age? Because I know some of you said, "I'll be the same." Who here thinks better looking as you get older? Okay, you three. You said
04:45:00
Josie Marcelino45. You said I don't know if you're kidding me or trolling answers or whatever. And then I think probably 45 will be a peak, but again it depends on because I'll get plastic surgery.
04:45:10
Brian AtlasLet me ask you all three of you a question. If I could wave a magic wand that would outwardly advance your
04:45:21
Brian Atlasyour age outwardly. So just to be clear, you're not going to die sooner. You're going to live just as long as you would otherwise live. You're not going to get any health problems anytime sooner than you would otherwise get them. I will
04:45:34
Brian Atlasjust simply advance your outward appearance 10 years or 20 years. You stay there for however much the length of time is that you think you'll be at
04:45:45
Brian Atlasyour peak or whatever. Do you take it? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yes. So, just to be clear, and again, you still you're not going to die anytime sooner.
04:45:58
Josie MarcelinoYeah. You guys would age advance yourself because ju just because you guys think you'll look better then. I'm going to be 30 lbs lighter within
04:46:11
Josie Marcelinothe next year. And I would I would love if you could just wave a wand and that would be the case like right now. So, yeah, you need time for that to happen. No, no, no. Hold on. Yeah. Hold on. I think you're misunderstanding.
04:46:23
Josie MarcelinoUh so [Music] you would remain your same weight. I'm saying that by the end of this with my current trajectory, I'm going to lose.
04:46:34
Brian AtlasIt's not it's not I've had all these interventions in this period of time. I'm literally instantaneously just changing like all the ch like assuming
04:46:46
Josie Marcelinoyou didn't make any changes. You're just aging aging advanced. You're and I'm not allowed to get plastic surgery and I'm not allowed to lose weight or make any changes like that. So, well, let me ask you this. Take you
04:47:00
Brian AtlasMhm. and say you don't do anything. Okay. Everything kind of mostly stays the same, 10 years down the road and then in the next year you're competing with your 10
04:47:12
Brian Atlasyear older self and you both get to lose weight. You both lose weight at the same rate. You're saying that 45year-old you would be better than 35 year old or 30-year-old. We both have the same access to weight
04:47:23
Josie Marcelinoloss and plastic surgery. Then I'll just say how I am. That's it's easier to work with. Like it's less, you know, aged skin is harder to work with if you're going from a cosmetic perspective. What about you?
04:47:36
MarcelinaWell, we're just going like off of looks or I mean depends what I'm going for in life. I feel like yeah, I would like to stay 35. I don't know cuz like I look back on
04:47:48
Marcelinamyself like even a few years ago and like I was cute whatever but like I take better care of myself. But did you say you'd be better looking at 45? I think you did. No, not I think I would like that would be like my peak but I'd be happy at 35. Like I feel like
04:48:00
Brian Atlasbut when you say peak like you will be more attractive at 45 than 25. I think I have the capability of looking hotter. Yeah. Or looking better than I am now. But okay. So if that is the case and I think we all want to be as physically
04:48:13
Brian Atlasattractive as possible, don't we? Yeah. you you'll stay looking as that 45year-old for 20 years. So instantaneously right now I make you look like you're 45. Mhm.
04:48:26
Brian AtlasRight now and you again you you're not going to die anytime sooner. You're not going to have any health problems anytime sooner. But I instantly make you 40 look like you're 45. No, I wouldn't. Why not? No, I like the 35. I don't know.
04:48:39
MarcelinaOkay, fine. 35. Do you do I would I don't know why. I just would cuz I feel like at that point like I'm like I always feel like I've been progressing. Tell you what, here's what we're going to do. Feel like women in their 30s.
04:48:49
Brian AtlasI will you know what? Forget the magic wand. I will pay to give you plastic surgery to age you to 35. We'll pay for it and on top of that I'll give you $10,000. What surgery is that?
04:49:02
Brian AtlasNo. There's probably I'm sure there's a plastic surgeon then that can [ __ ] your face up and make you look older. We're not going to [ __ ] your face up, but we're going to we're going to do some sort of procedure, cosmetic procedures
04:49:14
Brian Atlasthat are going to start giving you a little bit of wrinkles, a little additional sun damage, whatever it is, you know, cuz over 10 years, there is going to be some physical changes, but it also depends if like you you're taking care of yourself or not
04:49:26
Brian Atlasor tell you what we could what we could also do in if you don't want to do cosmetic procedures, even though you seem to say that you'd look be be better looking and we'll pay for it fully and we'll pay you just for the doing the
04:49:38
Brian Atlasexperiment. I'll give you $10,000. Uh, will you do it? Well, first off, will you do it? No. Okay. How about this? I will hire a makeup artist, one of the best. You live in LA, right? Yeah, I do.
04:49:49
MarcelinaI will hire a makeup artist for the next year, every single day, to come to your house and make you look older. So, you get to remove it. It's nothing permanent. I feel like I'd be happy at 35. Like, I'd look back at my like 25-year-old
04:50:02
Brian Atlasself and I'm like, damn. Like, I look better. So, are you down with that, though? Can we Okay. So, I don't say uh here, you know, we're going to get into our next segment here. Lot to get through. Uh so,
04:50:14
Mandy (Iran)we are going to do we put all of you through AI and we age advance all of you. Oh, okay. I'm excited. So, yeah. Let's uh All right. You You
04:50:25
Mandy (Iran)guys ready? All going to look better. Can we skip
04:50:31
Mandy (Iran)back? These AI programs, they mess me up. Yeah. I don't know how far we're talking. Was hotter when I was 21 than 25. Ready? Oh boy. Oh my god. Honestly, like you're actually pretty. I
04:50:45
Emily (Coach DT250)can see you. I could literally end my [ __ ] existence if I look like that. I don't You actually look a really pretty girl. I will pay any surgeon to natural process. I don't care. It doesn't look better than right now.
04:50:57
Maddie (Porn)All right. Next. Can we go next? Oh. Oh, she's cute. A cute. Okay. You look so sweet. Very cute. I mean, I look nice, but
04:51:10
Brian Atlasyou look like you would judge me. That is future you. Okay. All right. Next. I'm so excited. A A I feel like I've seen
04:51:20
Josie MarcelinoOh, she looks so Sicilian. Oh, that's your eyes are popping. So, I know. That's actually That's making me a little bit emotional cuz like Yeah. Well, you think you better the middle one and the end one than this
04:51:33
Josie Marcelinoone? They're all so cute. And I better though. I had a I had a near-death experience uh recently and I don't know. That's just cool to see. Who the hell cares?
04:51:46
Josie MarcelinoOh my goodness. What the That's just cool to see. Is this Yeah, I need a second cuz that's like really That's nice. A
04:51:59
Josie MarcelinoI'm going to take a minute. Okay.
04:52:08
SPEAKER_02It wasn't that bad. So guys, uh, next. She looked good and all. It's a good Oh my goodness. Why did you say, "Hey, I thought you
04:52:19
SPEAKER_12You said you said I'm just going to keep getting better." No, she said she's going to get different shock there. Okay. She said different.
04:52:32
Lucy (Data)All right. Different. That's definitely different. Next. Next. It was like happy tears in a weird way. I look like a glitch. I think this is inaccurate cuz Asian people don't age
04:52:45
Lucy (Data)like that. Well, you threw it off with your fake contact lenses. So, Oh my. Well, I'm blind. I need to see. Did they need to be colored? Well, I have a sponsorship with them, so
04:52:56
Lucy (Data)they give me free lenses. I I feel this. I'm on the same wavelength as you. You have a You have a contact lens sponsorship? Yes. Ha Christine. Oh, you have them? Oh, she has them.
04:53:09
Lucy (Data)Okay. Wait, what's it called now? Ha Christristen. Isn't that like offensive now? No, not at all. No. Ha just means like half white, half Asian. That's all. I thought Asian people said that was
04:53:21
Brian Atlasoffensive. I don't know. Whatever. Next. No more. Oh, that's sweet. No. Oh, god. So pretty. I don't know what to say.
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SPEAKER_02That's Hey, we can do it if you want. We'll we'll get the plastic surgery done to to make it happen. All right. Next. Hey. Oh, no. That was cold. That was cold. Who did that?
04:53:46
Holly (62)That's messy. What the [ __ ] That is so messy of y'all. What the [ __ ] Nick? I know what kind of car you drive and I know where you live. Oh [ __ ]
04:53:58
Brian AtlasShe's gonna come get you, bro. She's coming for you. All right, next. That is crazy.
04:54:10
EleanorI look like a Lola. Very sweet. What's a Lola? A grandma. Oh, no. A yeah, but in Tagalog. Oh, okay. Yeah. Next.
04:54:22
Brian AtlasYou Oh, yikes. It's better than usual. All right. And then we have me next. Yes. Okay. Oh, this is an old photo.
04:54:34
EleanorWell, that's the beard. Damn, they they done so happy. It's like a cute [ __ ] up. You look so like I would hang out with you, right?
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