Feminist RAGE QUITS Before Show?! Catholic Pro-Choice Bi Leftist?! Grandma BACK! | Dating Talk #250

Date: 2025-07-07

Duration: 9h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMaddie (Porn)>

JJosie Marcelino >

EEmily (Coach DT250)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Emily (Coach DT250)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lucy (Data)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Marcelina(guest)

SPEAKER_07Holly (62)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Josie Marcelino(guest)

SPEAKER_09Mandy (Iran)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Maddie (Porn)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Eleanor(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduced

Key MomentMaddie: pays $170K alimony to first husband from 1-year marriage

Key MomentJosie: kidnapped on date at 20, stole truck, drove 100mph to escape

Key MomentMarcelina: ex put loaded gun to her head, doused car in acid, killed a girl, now in prison

ControversyMandy: explosive rant blaming feminism and weak men for societal decline

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Mandy (Iran/Vancouver stripper with 3 properties) and Holly (62, Jackass Forever).

Maddie Alimony

Pays $170K total alimony to first husband from 1-year marriage.

Sex Work Discussion

Mandy: 'this shit sucks.' Advocates against sex work.

Male Loneliness Epidemic

Emily raises topic. Panel discusses causes.

Josie Kidnapping Story

Kidnapped on date at 20. Stole attacker's truck. Drove 100mph.

Marcelina Gun to Head

Ex put loaded gun to her head. Doused car in acid. Killed a girl. Now in prison.

Racism Definitions

Lucy argues only those with institutional power can be racist.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasif you have a pre-existing plan and you hold to those plans despite like perhaps another plan manifesting that might be

Brian Atlasbetter or there's this guy you really like. I wouldn't categorize that as like playing hard to get or making yourself

Brian Atlasintentionally unavailable. You were just as a statement of fact unavailable. Yeah, we have different definitions for playing hard to get evidently. Okay, but pull it back up the tweet

Josie Marcelinoagain. The sexiest thing you can be is busy. Yeah, men like women with hobbies and a whole life outside of them. And if you don't, God bless. But

Brian AtlasI think the reality is I I think if the woman is too on top of you, like perhaps I can see the angle there, but I can

Brian Atlasjust as easily say that if I've made multiple attempts to hang out with you and you're making it difficult for me to actually make that happen, I just lose interest. There's other options. On to

Brian Atlasthe next one. Yeah. So, I can guarantee you you as women, there are men who are going to that you're interested in. And look, if you're genuinely busy, you're genuinely busy. But there are going to be scenarios

Brian Atlaswhere the dude's just going to move on. So, this idea that a guy's going to perpetually chase you when you're busy, but I'm saying you're potentially going to miss out on a dude if you're not at least attemp I'm not saying you got

Brian Atlasto turn your life upside down for a guy, but I think it it it actually shows a degree of effort to make an attempt to make yourself available. I'm not saying you got to cancel pre-existing plans. Yeah. But if you're impossible to schedule

Josie Marcelinosomething with, I'm not waiting around for you. I'm on to the next one. I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying be impossible to get a hold of, but I'm saying be busy. Don't be a And that's just you should be

Josie Marcelinobusy. You should have things occupying your time and you shouldn't be canceling them for him. So, it shouldn't be every single time he texts you and he wants to see you, you're available cuz you should have [ __ ] going on in your life.

Brian AtlasBut would you prescriptively tell a woman like let's say she's not busy. I would say get busy. But would you tell her? But if let's say she's not, would you say, "Well, create the the air that you are busy." Even if you're just

Josie Marcelinostaying at home, I would say get actually busy. You need to have actual hobbies or interests or passions or something. That would be my advice. And that's my advice for men, too. And I'm saying like

Josie Marcelinowith the people that I've worked with and knowing people on the upper end of society, they're there unless they've had, you know, generational wealth and then they're not dating like any of us

Josie Marcelinoare dating as it is. But the people who are successful and who have made a lot of money, they're going to be busy and they don't want somebody who's just nagging at them and trying to get their attention. Yeah. But I don't think I don't think

Brian Atlasit's as a woman, you're either really really busy and you're going to have to occasionally tell a guy that you're not

Brian Atlasfree or you're just really really on him. Like I think there's a medium. So I don't know this idea that okay just be

Josie Marcelinobusy. I don't know. When I wrote that, it was because I was talking to a friend who is not busy ever, and she's just like, I can't I I She invests the her everything, her time, her energy, her

Josie Marcelinomoney, everything into the dudes she dates and then they don't stick around. And I was like, yeah, cuz you made him the center of your whole world. You gave him everything, all your energy. You can't do that. You got to give you your energy. Do your passions and the things

Josie Marcelinothat you love and that make up your life. make a full fulfilling life because otherwise you might as well date them, the the little ladies that you got in the corner. If you want them to be hot and ready, oh that's Little Caesar's not

Brian AtlasArby's slogan. Damn. If you want them to have the meats, go to this lady like this. I mean, there's just scenarios where when you're trying to actually move thing move something forward with

Brian Atlassomebody and they basically make it really, really difficult. They make it a pain in the ass to actually get on that date. Hey, some guys might stick around. I think a

Brian Atlaslot of guys are just going to move on to somebody who's a bit more available. Well, what do you consider a pain in the ass? Just so I know where you're coming from. It's like uh I'm trying to think of an example. Like I might want to see you

Brian Atlassometime within the next month would be nice. And some people are booked up the entire month. That's crazy. I'll move on to somebody else. Yeah. If if you are booking a month out, God bless. You sound like you have a

Josie Marcelinovery fulfilling life. Dating's probably not for you. You don't have the time for it. Yeah. They have to be emotionally available, right? You have to be emotionally available. And you do have to be able to take an appointment within a calendar month. Yeah. I'm not saying be crazy

Josie Marcelinowith it, but again, if the lady if okay, imagine your girl that you're talking to, all she does all day, she doesn't do work, she doesn't go to work, she doesn't go to school, she doesn't do nothing, no hobbies, she

Josie Marcelinolikes to sit in bed and think about me and Tik Tok and then think about you. Sign me up. I I would love to point you again in the direction to the blowup dolls that you have in the corner of the studio. Well,

Brian AtlasI mean, so what would you say to women who have a desire to be stay-at-home uh wives? Wives or mothers? Both. Mothers, good on you. That sounds like a

Josie Marcelinohell of a lot of work. Wives, do you have a farmstead or something or do you got to have something in your day if you want to be a stay-at-home wife and your man can afford that and every like

Josie Marcelinothat's why those women become the beneficiaries of like charities and they they get on the board with stuff. if they get involved. Nobody just take care of the house. What's the house going to do? I got to let some chats come through. Uh Cap, sorry for the delay on this. You

Brian Atlassent this in about five, six minutes ago. The You call this lovely lady crazy for believing in Pizzagate. And then bring up uh Epstein who did Trafficking with our politicians. There's nothing in

Josie Marcelinobetween your ears but hot air. Is this directed at you or at No, that's directed at me. Cuz I said I was like, "Girl, you really think that Hillary Clinton is hiding children underneath a pizzeria? Donald Trump was

Josie Marcelinophotographed with Jeffrey Epstein." So, what wasn't Bill Clinton also? Bill Clinton is absolutely He is a rapist. I'm not denying that. Oh, I'm sorry. Damn, bro. I'm sorry. Just say essay. My bad. Go ahead.

Josie MarcelinoUh, yeah. No, Bill Clinton is a monster for sure. I'm not defending the Clintons. I don't think that people were hiding children underneath the pizzeria that didn't have a basement. Just

Josie Marcelinobecause you don't think it, okay, doesn't mean it didn't happen when there's proof. What's the proof? There's no basement, baby. They've got all the proof on it. Who? What? What proof? Who's they? And what's

Brian AtlasI've read it all over. I bet. I bet you have. The [ __ ] All right, we have uh DP thing

Brian Atlashere. I got to do this manually. I got to fix this after the show. Thank you. Uh, Eleanor, hello. Back. When I come out to Cali later this year,

Brian Atlasit's my plan to blow your mind with my incredible psychological Aikido. Let's connect, Brian. Lock it in. Hook it up. Pass my IG to your left. Oh, wow. He's shooting a shot.

Brian AtlasWhoa, there girls. You got What do you think? Yay or nay? Do you need more details about him? Yes, please.

Brian AtlasAll right. Uh, so maybe do you want to share some bio biographical info? Age, height, any anything else you care

Eleanorabout? Um, I guess like Yeah, definitely age, location. I think that's it right now. Okay,

Brian Atlasthat's it. Yeah, I'm open-minded. Very fun facts. Uh, wait, what? Um, okay. We have Pasty

Brian AtlasGeorge. Take note, guys. Cheer three is one of the red red flag women you want to avoid. Nothing but baggage, head games, and feministic BS. They would put their own interests over you and the children. Yikes. Do you want kids?

Brian AtlasNo. No kids? Never? No. You meet the perfect guy. He's like, "Hey, I want to have kids." Then he's not the perfect guy. Not the perfect. Okay. All right. Uh, Farah Khaled. Yeah, I don't know if this is actually Farah. Uh, but it's

Brian Atlasbelow the threshold far. So, unfortunately, unless you send it above the threshold, you'll have to resubmit if you want Lucy to answer your question. What? Uh, let's see. I don't know if that's actually Far though. It might be somebody else. Um,

Brian Atlaswe're going to jump to this. Andrew Tate, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. Starting with you. Uh, am I rating what I

Brian Atlasactually? Wait. Okay. Wait, does this here? Actually, you know what? Here's how I want to do this. Anybody here a 10? Say, okay, we're starting with you then. Would you rate your looks on a scale of

Emily (Coach DT250)1 to 10? I would say for myself and for my future husband, I'd see myself as a 10. A, what do you mean for your future husband? Like, I think my future husband will see me as a 10. There are plenty of men out there who might think I'm a two or a

Eleanorthree or whatever, but me and my future husband will think I'm a 10. Okay. Uh you also you wanted to Yeah, I I'm pretty much on the same lines. I think that I'm a 10 in my own. Like I think I'm beautiful.

EleanorOkay. Same thing. Not everybody may think that I'm beautiful and that's fine. But I think that I'm beautiful. I'm a 10. If you don't think that I'm a 10, that's your personal opinion. I'm cool with that.

Maddie (Porn)Okay. Uh so now we'll just go around the table starting with you. Go ahead. I'm a five. Okay. Go ahead. Um, maybe an eight for myself, I guess.

Josie MarcelinoOkay. I personally think that I'm a like I see myself as a three. I think society probably it's more like five. Mhm.

Lucy (Data)Um, I'll just I'll say six. Yeah. I feel like that's being kind to myself. I think I'm an eight.

Holly (62)Molly, I I was a five about a month ago and I think I went down to a three and hopefully by the end of summer I'll be

Brian Atlason my way back up. Okay, so we have 5 8 3 10 6 8 3 10. I

Brian Atlasgive myself a five. Uh h okay. Oh, wait. Can I say something?

Brian AtlasOne sec. Really quick. Uh, DPG thing. Um, did you want a champagne pop? I was a little confused there. Do you want the I think it's a champagne pop. It is a champagne pop. We got to honor the

Brian Atlaschampagne pop. We got to honor the code. But DPG thing, you did simp for Eleanor. Do you have a nickname or you go by Eleanor?

EleanorMy nickname is literally just Ln. Eleanor. online people always spell my name wrong so I always just say just spell it LN R okay

Eleanorbut people just call me Elanor why aren't you allowed to pick seven number it's like all right um and then oh DPG you have to

Brian Atlaspay a sim tax if you s you got to pay the sim tax you know the rules so I don't know and we also asked for your biographical information so uh

Brian Atlasin when you respond again, specify if you wanted to champagne pop because I know sometimes you're like whatever. You don't have to do it, but uh you can specify if you want us to pop champagne. Uh okay, so we got some tens here. I

Brian Atlaswant to talk to the tens at the table. We have some very beautiful women at the table. I always every show I manage to get the most beautiful women a on the table. Well, don't get ahead of

Brian Atlasyourself. Um so for the two 10, here's what I want to do. I want each of you to name another woman, preferably like a celebrity who we could look up,

Emily (Coach DT250)who it think is a 10, starting with you. We've heard Megan Fox. Yeah. No, I would say like energy matters above all else, but if I were to

Brian Atlaslook physically, then I'd say like Angelina Jolie. She's a 10. Angelina Jolie. Let's do and young. Angelina or current? I haven't seen current photos of her.

Brian AtlasLet's just do uh young Angelina. Let's do young. So do that. Okay. Uh

Brian AtlasAll right. Okay. So there there's young Angelina. Mhm. Young Angelina. Mhm.

Brian AtlasOkay. And then what about you? Who's a female 10? Maybe Sidi. All right. Siti, you know who that is, Nick? Yeah, she's beautiful.

EleanorWho the [ __ ] is that guy? You don't know Sidi the singer? Uh, Sidi. She's still young. Maybe like a modern

Josie Marcelinopicture. She kind of looks like Sierra from Love Island. Yeah, you don't have to put young cuz she's like 22, I think. Oh, is she? I didn't know she's that young. She Maybe she's not that young, but she's young still.

Brian AtlasAll right. Okay. So, uh, you would say, you said Angelina Jolie is a 10. You would say that like you're you're kind of on par with Angelina

Emily (Coach DT250)Jolie. I think we look different and I think Sure. Um, I think she's a gorgeous woman. I think from a universal standpoint of like if people were just judging her

Emily (Coach DT250)purely based on appearance, she would be rated a 10 um or something close of it. But everybody has different preferences. Some people would think she's a two or a three. Um, but like I said, for myself and for my future husband, I think that

Brian AtlasI am a 10. We're just beautiful in our own rights, just in different ways. Okay. And then what about you? You on par with Sidi? Honestly, we got the same

Eleanormind cuz I was thinking the same thing, you know, like yeah, people may think that, oh, sweetie is way more bomb than me. And like that's totally valid. But me, like the way that I see myself,

Eleanorlike, yeah, I am on par. I am as bad as Sidi just because like that's just how I see myself. And same thing, you know, I may not be a 10 to everybody. Everyone's

Eleanorentitled to their own opinion, but I feel like I'm really secure in my looks where I feel like I can say I'm a 10. And then you were going to ask something or

EleanorI think I was going to add something earlier, but that already flew out of my brain. It was related to this though, right? Or was it? I thought I thought you were like, can I say something or whatever?

EleanorOkay. Um Oh, wait. I do remember actually. Yeah. I just want to say I think everybody on the table should claim themselves as a 10, you know, like

EleanorI feel like how you rate yourself is like a surprise. Yeah. I feel like how you rate yourself should be like how you feel about yourself. So, you know, if you feel like

Mandy (Iran)you're a 10, then you will be a 10. I mean, it was on my looks like I think I don't look like the most perfect human being. Like when I look at someone, I'm like that person is fully perfect. I don't feel that. And it's okay. I'm not

Mandy (Iran)saying I want to be that person, but I'm logical. Like, that's what I [ __ ] look like. So, here's here's the next thing I'd like to do. Uh, name a guy who is a 10 that we can Google like looks starting with you.

Emily (Coach DT250)So, this is a good question. Um, I would say my like childhood crush was like a young Chris Pine. Oh my god, me too. Young Chris Pine. Okay. And then for you, man, I'm going to be honest. Like I'm

Eleanornot really like I don't really think about like celebrities like that. There's no guy you could name just like good-looking man. The guy that I can name is Gojo Saturu. Who?

EleanorHe's an anime character. Got a weeb over here. I know you're not saying that with all the Dragon Ball stuff behind me. It is true. There's a lot of Dragon Ball statues. And

Brian Atlasyeah, you know, that's like mainstream [ __ ] It's not mainstream or whatever. Dragon Ball Z is like the most popular anime ever. So just cuz she knows one that's less popular, she's like, "Yeah, it makes you more of a Yeah, if

Josie Marcelinoyou know like what anime is your guy from Jiu-Jitsu Kaisen." All right, that's a little niche. It's a little niche, but it's fine. He's kind of popular, I guess. I think I

Brian Atlasheard about it like 20 years ago or something. Uh Louise, thanks for the gifted 10 memberships. Okay, so Young Chris Pine, let's get let's get that pulled up.

Brian AtlasUm, can you make it bigger? Oh, that works, too. Make it bigger. Bigger. Bigger. Bigger. Okay. All right. Handsome guy, a young Chris Pine.

EleanorUh, and then do you want to give us a human or something? I can't even think of one. Um, oh, let's see. Attend like just off looks. Yeah, just looks.

EleanorWho was What's his name? The guy that was in Megan the Stallion song. I think it's like Yuki Kaiba or something. Oh, the Japanese rapper. Yeah. Do you know his name? No, but he's cute. I think Yeah, he is pretty cute.

EleanorYeah, I don't remember his name, though. I probably just Google Megan the Stallion. Oh, I also think um I think 21 Savage is pretty attractive, too. I know that's not popular, but I think he's pretty

Emily (Coach DT250)attractive. All that matters. Oh, I'm sorry. I honestly don't know what either of them look like, so this will be Do we have photos or?

EleanorYeah, you're like this one. [Laughter] So, he's he's a 10. That's a 10 for you. I think it's attractive. So, you want me to think different?

EleanorI mean, but are you factoring in like his status and his No. If we're being honest, um, he's really funny and that's kind of like

Josie Marcelinowhat like Wait, isn't he dumb? Mm-m. He's He's definitely alive. Alive. That was like a big scandal. They found out he was secretly British. Oh, yeah.

Josie MarcelinoWith Sir Savage the 21st. It was a whole thing. He like got he was on the uh risk of being deported or he got detained or something, but he's secretly British. That's so funny. Yeah.

EleanorOh, I was thinking about that other rapper who was Juice or X. Yeah, Either one. Either one. Oh, well, they're both passed. Yeah. I

Brian Atlasdon't I don't listen to rap, so I don't know. But okay. Uh that's cool. [Laughter] So, just to be clear, going going for

Brian Atlasyou now. Uh here, let's uh get the split fixed.

Brian Atlas[Laughter] So, a woman that you listed as a 10 is Angelina Jolie. Here, I got to do one

Brian Atlas[ __ ] thing at a time. Um, and then the guy who you listed as a 10 is Chris Pine. So, you say you're on par with uh

Emily (Coach DT250)with Angelina Jolie and a looks match for you would be Chris Pine. Um, that's an interesting question. Again, I think that we're all different.

Emily (Coach DT250)I'm not I don't know whether or not Chris Pine would go for me. His preferences, but maybe he would. Maybe he could though. his exact type. Like if Yeah. If he thought found me attractive, I found him attractive.

Brian AtlasIs he watching? Chris's fine at me. Uh, anybody want some more champagne? Sure. Pass your cups on back. You want the Can for me, actually. Oh, I'm okay. I'm good.

Emily (Coach DT250)She's good. All right. I don't know whose cup that was. Oh, I think that one's mine. Mhm. Oh, [ __ ] Got all bubbly. So, thoughts. Thoughts? I mean, yeah. If we if he was into me

Emily (Coach DT250)and he found me as equally attractive as I find him. Yeah, sure. Okay. But do you think that that's your league looks-wise? I don't necessarily really believe in leagues. Like I think that you if

Brian Atlasanything of what I've experienced in life is that the more that I get to know people, the more attracted or unattracted that I get to them. Yes. I I think there's obviously more to attraction than just physical attraction. Mhm.

Emily (Coach DT250)But I think you wouldn't deny that physical attraction is very important, right? Yeah. Physical attraction does play a role in the beginning. Like that's the instant spark. That's the instant attraction. But for example, I've dated men in the past who I wasn't initially

Emily (Coach DT250)very attracted to and that I would probably put in the quote unquote friend zone. But then over time, as we developed more emotional intimacy, they became more attractive to me. And so I don't put looks to me is just 10% of the

Emily (Coach DT250)equation. I value way more emotional integrity, um, emotional intelligence, and how like what their values are as a person. Uh, I'll get right into that. But first,

Brian Atlasuh, this was a champagne pop for DPG. DPG, thanks for the champagne pop. You're a legend, sir. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Uh, cheers, Saloo. Cheers. Isn't it bad luck? It is.

Josie MarcelinoWhat? I said, isn't it bad luck to cheers water? Oh, who cheers water? I raised my glass. I almost did and then I saw I didn't clink, but I raised my glass. I don't know. Um, so you don't believe in leagues?

Brian AtlasPersonally, no. Okay. So, I have a question for you. Um, do you think people can be unattractive physically? Do you believe do you believe that people can be beautiful or ugly?

Emily (Coach DT250)Physically, I would say that there are people that I personally am unattracted to, but other people find incredibly attractive. Uh, sure. But do you think that I So

Brian Atlashere's my position. I think that beauty is mostly subjective, but there are are there are objective components to beauty. I I don't quite agree with that because

Emily (Coach DT250)again, let's take for example, what was the woman's name? I hate to title her by this. The most ugly woman in the room. What was her name? Susan Bole, perhaps. Yeah, I'm sorry. I don't know her name. was the singer singer Susan Bole was like known as being that

Emily (Coach DT250)like she has like a like a blind eye or something like that. Yeah. So, for example, for her like she might be objectively not having all of the perfect standards of what a typical beautiful woman would look like

Emily (Coach DT250)skin-wise, appearance-wise, um body type, etc. Um but but there are people who are drawn to her. Like if you look in the comments and I I don't know them personally so I can't speak for them but

Emily (Coach DT250)like that's technically the quote unquote titled most ugly woman in the world and still people are drawn to her. So I think it is incredibly subjective more than objective. If you look at it from a population standpoint of you do a Buzzfeed quiz and have people rate

Emily (Coach DT250)what's attractive and what's not attractive. Of course if you frame it like that they're going to say the XYZ certain characteristics are pulled to be the higher attractive traits. But again, that doesn't really represent what

Emily (Coach DT250)attraction is really based on, which is a person's own personal opinion and their own preferences. So, you don't think beauty has any impact on people being able to find a partner? Sometimes too, like you might

Josie Marcelinonot even find somebody particularly attractive or like they might not be your usual type, but then you get in front of them and like you kind of have a little bit of a conversation and the chemistry is so intense that like even

Josie Marcelinoif you're not each other's type, you're just drawn to each other on a physical level where you wouldn't if you saw a picture of them, maybe you wouldn't be attracted to them. But then when you're in person, there's just something with your physiology and the energy and

Josie Marcelinoyou're like, "Oh yeah, okay, they're hot now. In front of me, they're hot." I mean, I agree that there are other determining factors that can contribute to No, not even getting to know them. Just like there's an you've never had that

Brian Atlaswith somebody where like you see them and then like just you get in the same space really ugly girl and she just the I never talked to her but there was just a vibe you event when you get in each other's

Josie Marcelinospace so you're going to talk at some point but like have you ever there would be conversation then but you're you feel the chemistry and the attraction before then chemistry. Yeah. You've never just been drawn to somebody like that? Yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's almost That's usually what it

Brian Atlasalways is. Sounds some like some some word salad. I don't know. Well, do you Okay, this I don't I don't I think there's a whole bunch of things that can make somebody attractive. Uh probably the primary and the first thing is going to be their physical attractiveness and then there's going to

Josie Marcelinobe uh behavioral stuff, personality stuff that is going to make or break that initial attraction. Do you have c like with I don't sorry to ask but like

Josie Marcelinoyou're you sex-wise do you only engage with people that like you're in a committed relationship with or have you had like flings and stuff like that? Have you hooked up when I was younger I had a couple flings

Josie Marcelinobut I prefer long-term relationships and continuity. So, but do you did you ever when you were younger have one of those instances where like you just meet somebody and like immediately you can feel there's like a palpable sexual

Brian Atlaschemistry. Uh yeah, but it there's typically a baseline level of physical attraction first. Okay. So, I would say that's

Brian Atlasis there more of a like either romantic or sexual chemistry or flirtation that can exist more so in one person versus another? Yeah, sure. Fair enough. I I'm just speaking from my own experience.

Brian AtlasI even really really physically unattractive people can still find relationships, but that's not really what I'm talking about here. I'm not disputing that unattractive people can date. No, I'm not saying that either. I'm

Josie Marcelinosaying that like I've personally experienced a thing where we were not matched aesthetically and there was just palpable chemistry and it's like that's

Brian Atlasnot who we would have gone for. Okay. Sure. Um I think I can test this out pretty easily here. So if like looks don't matter, let's just remove entirely anything you know about these people.

Brian AtlasLet's just talk strictly looks. So you can't make any judgments outside of looks. So, let's say modern current day Donald Trump.

Brian AtlasIs he more attractive than Brad Pitt at 25? Physically attractive. Is he wearing a diaper or did he go modern day? It's Donald Trump who's currently in the White House. I'd prefer somebody who doesn't wear a

Brian Atlasdiaper versus 25-year-old uh Brad Pitt. Who's more physically attractive? I thought we physical attraction out of it. I thought that was the premise. just No, no, we're leaving I know you some of

Lucy (Data)you are liberals, so we're leaving out that you disagree with his politics. Who's more physically attractive? So, the two demarcators of beauty usually are physical health and age. So, by that standpoint, Brad Pitt is younger

Lucy (Data)and more physically healthy. So, he would inherently objectively be more attractive. Okay. Does anybody have a different opinion or

Holly (62)Well, I think that I think Trump down, please. Uh Trump's uh charisma is freaking off the chart.

Emily (Coach DT250)We're just talking looks like I think it makes him uh let me put it this way. If you are in a poll of physical attractiveness, again, like in a Buzzfeed or something like

Emily (Coach DT250)that, sure, people will say that whoever the other guy was was more attractive than Donald Trump, but that doesn't always work out in real life execution. Meaning that when you actually get to know people and are surrounded by their energy and actually their natural

Emily (Coach DT250)hormones and chemistry, they can say like just theoretically, you you approach both guys and you're speed dating with them, the guy that they said was more conveniently attractive, they might not actually have any spark or chemistry or real attraction with in real life. And that's where I think the

Brian Atlasdifference is. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Okay. Um, but I don't think there again, it's not in dispute that people who are average or below average or really

Brian Atlasunattractive. I'm not disputing that they can't find people who might find them physically attractive or who want to be with them. That's not really in dispute. What I'm disputing here is you

Brian Atlassaid you don't believe in leagues. No, you don't think that there's leagues. So, what I guess then is stopping me from dating 19 and 20 year old

Brian Atlassupermodels? What's the barrier? Like, it has nothing to do like what's the barrier? Okay. Yeah. Like, if I were to shoot my shot with a 20-year-old supermodel, Yeah. Let me Yeah, they're in my league, right?

Emily (Coach DT250)I can answer that for you, which is first, let's just take age out of it because I don't want to go down the age numbers thing. Um, but let's just say it's a supermodel. 30-year-old supermodel. Sure. Cool. Okay. Yeah. So, are there 30-year-old supermodels out there who

Emily (Coach DT250)may have superficial beliefs about men and women and go for the six-pack, 6'6, whatever, and that or they have people who are drawn to them that are in that category who they like to explore with.

Emily (Coach DT250)Sure. However, if they actually met you in real life, and I would say at least they're not going to like me. Maybe like it depends on what they're physically attracted to. However, I'm not talking even physical. I'm just

Emily (Coach DT250)saying I probably differ quite a bit in terms of politics and whatnot. You don't know. Well, that's okay, fine. They're super all these Victoria Secret models are superb base conservatives. That's what I'm saying. Where real attraction in leagues comes in is way

Emily (Coach DT250)more about values, morals, and integrity and their character rather than anything about their physical appearance. Because for example, let's say you get on a blind date with a supermodel, okay? And she's way super attracted to you

Emily (Coach DT250)physically. Throughout the course of that conversation, you guys may have different political beliefs, different u moral beliefs. And then when you ex expose that, suddenly the attraction might die. Or hey, I don't know your beliefs. Maybe you're like a one night

Emily (Coach DT250)stand kind of guy. I don't know. But if there's physical attraction, I'm not saying that you are, Brian. I'm saying that in a scenario where if you're a one night stand type of person, it might just be a one type one night stand type of connection.

Josie MarcelinoI've seen very ugly male comedians go out and go to bars and I'm like, you're not going to get any attention. and women flock to them because they do just have that natural sort of like energy

Brian Atlasabout them that brings really hot women in. I love ugly. Look, again, I first off, when it comes to comedians, uh, one of the number one things that women say that they look for is humor. And these

Brian Atlascomedians, I'll know to what degree, like how famous they are or have status. That's another component that probably plays in here. Uh, perhaps they have

Brian Atlasgood conversational skills. Uh, are most men as funny as professional comedians? I would say not. So, we can point to,

Brian Atlasyeah, okay, there's maybe comedians who are not good-looking, but their status or they're just interacting with them is this like fun experience and that makes

Brian Atlasthem attractive to women. Sure, I I agree with that. But I don't think that that's within the realm of mo most men that they're in terms of their humor that it's on par with professional standup comedians,

Josie Marcelinowhich is true. But I'm not even saying, oh, they were out there cracking. I'm talking like before they had fame or status or money back when they were sleeping on air mattresses. Uh, yeah, broke guys can Yeah, broke guys

Brian Atlascan sleep with women. I don't Yeah, I don't dispute this. They had good So, you're basically saying good like men with good personalities can sleep with women. I'm not disputing this at all. All right. How many men have good personalities? I don't I haven't taken

Brian Atlaslike how many and what I'm what I'm getting at is to overcome other detrimental attributes or characteristics. What's the detrimental attribute or characteristics? Well, I wouldn't necessarily view it

Brian Atlasthis this way, but women might say, like for example, a woman might say if a guy is short, he has to make up for it in other ways. See, then I would think that you would

Emily (Coach DT250)be dating women with no judgment to people's personal beliefs, but who are dating on superficial standards rather than actually wanting to get to know who you are as a person? You don't think that people are not

Emily (Coach DT250)dating superficially? Oh, I believe that there is a group out there, but to invite a different perspective, the type of people that I date and the type of people that I've seen like and the type of people that I've experienced, like I

Emily (Coach DT250)have a standard personally that we for the type of people that I go out with and also the type of people in my friend groups that they go out with are not dating superficially. It's just a different form of like I mean, yeah, but people do a lot of

Brian Atlasvirtue signal signaling and they'll they want to say the thing that sounds good, but they won't always actually reveal overtly genuine preferences. So, it's it sounds

Brian Atlasgood as a woman to say, "Yeah, I'll date a short guy." But then like we've done Well, here I can maybe test this out. You said you've been in a couple relationships, right? Yeah. And how Just curious, how tall was your last

Emily (Coach DT250)boyfriend? Yeah, all of my boyfriends um except for one have been shorter than me. All how tall are you? I'm 5'8. Every All of your boyfriends have been shorter. Okay, we got an outlier here. All right.

Emily (Coach DT250)And that's what I'm saying is that it's not necessarily about what all women in general think. It's about which group of women are you dating and attracting into your life. Yeah. But in general, women have a general preference for, for example, men

Brian Atlaswho are tall. Sure. You might end up dating a guy who's your height, maybe even a bit shorter as in your case, but it is a general preference for vast majority of women. And what they're going to find

Emily (Coach DT250)initially most physically attractive is men who are taller than them. Sure. Yes. But there's a difference between preference versus standard. Meaning that yes, there are women out there who are like, I will not date anybody who is shorter than me. Yes. I think there's a lot of women out there

Emily (Coach DT250)who innately do have the preference because they like to feel small and protected and held by their partner. And again, the type of group of women that I'm talking about are the ones that are basing their values versus on something more than just a superficial are not

Brian Atlasgoing to be deterred by somebody who is shorter or any other physical characterist. Wait, hold on. A guy could could be have a sterling personality. But just on the basis of his height alone is going to be

Emily (Coach DT250)disqualified by a cohort of women. Uh yes, one group, but probably the type of women you would want to date and how many men would want to be dating those. But you said earlier you were like, "Oh, if a guy is short, he has to make up for

Josie Marcelinoit in some other way." If height is the standard for the woman in question, and he's short, then yeah, he's going to have to make up for it in another way. But what? Okay, then his personality could be the thing that makes up for it or his sense of humor,

Brian Atlasright? But for some girls, it's just going to be unless he he's exceptional either in his personality or some other metric, I think it's still going to be

Mandy (Iran)an issue for a lot of women. my opinion on this. Yeah, go ahead. I think that it's not even like an argument. When a man is taller and is more in shape, it means naturally he can

Mandy (Iran)take better care of you and it's in our natural instincts to find that more attractive. There's no reason to argue about this. And when a female is skinnier can that that that's just what a man likes because it's just in their natural instinct. That means a healthier

Mandy (Iran)life. It means a better like I don't know breathing better a lot of different things. And it's in our natural instinct. Physical fitness, short, but taller men die sooner. It doesn't matter. They can take it right. Short men live longer. You can

Mandy (Iran)look it up. I think looks really matter. And like if someone has two guy, if you have two guys in front of you, they have the exact same personality and one is taller and better looking, you will pick the taller and better looking. That's the

Mandy (Iran)reality. People that look better, they have they they're they're better. That's just what it is. People that look better, they're better. say that's I feel I feel like that's incredibly disempowering to men. Um and I don't mean to you can have your personal opinion and like I'm not going to shame

Emily (Coach DT250)you. They're going to find women that are in this their league and women that are like a little bit less they're going to find men that are less. That's just how it is. Again, I just to state my personal opinion. I think that it's disempowering to men to think that they're going to be

Emily (Coach DT250)disadvantaged or that they lack any less value. And that might be true for you and the type of people that you date. And again, no shame against that. Those are your beliefs and that's totally okay. What I'm saying though is that I don't think a man should be limited by

Emily (Coach DT250)his height, by any sort of physical appearance. I think that yes, as in general, generally speaking here, every man and every woman should work on their values, should work on their integrity, work on their skill sets. The girl that

Emily (Coach DT250)I was 5 years ago, sucked at dating, sucked at dating, was a total pick me and totally anxious girl. But I worked on those skill sets so that I could increase like you know my approach in relationships and actually be an energetic and emotional

Emily (Coach DT250)match for the type of partner that I wanted. So I don't think that it has to be again disempowering to men to think that okay just because you're shorter, just because you have any other physical attributes that you're going to have limits. Yes, there will be women out there that will not date you because of

Josie Marcelinoheight, because of these other things. But again, those probably won't be the type of women that you want to date. No, that's exactly what he wants. He just can't get it. It's the reality. It's okay. It's okay. It's a reality. certain disadvantages in life. We're painting this with such a broad

Josie Marcelinobrush cuz there are women of course that like there's a lot of women that like tall guys. There's women that like shorter guys or average height guys just like a lot of women like ladies with big honkers. Okay. But there's guys who love women with small boobs. The guys that

Mandy (Iran)look better, that are taller, that are better looking, they're fitter, they have a way bigger choice of women. And the guys that are better looking all over. Yeah. Exactly. So that's the conversation. our are better-l lookinging people have

Emily (Coach DT250)better chances of succeeding and better chances of like just being better is that true the way that I challenge that is just because you have a variety of options does that mean that you actually are compatible with a lot of those people and at the end of the day other than polyamorous relationships or people who

Emily (Coach DT250)get married multiple times you only marry one person yeah but when you have wanted to say something yeah oh go ahead you know it's really funny because looks

Holly (62)are great but it's all it's great to have a pretty face but for me honest to God I can't get turned on with a man that's not a protector

Mandy (Iran)provider truly that is a man's man I think we have options of what we we are so like whatever we are we have that option for us so if you want that you kind of have to be on you know like

Mandy (Iran)that's just the reality and truth of life like it's unfair this is what it is let's accept reality and move on uh so question for you you said that you think Chris Pine is a 10 Sure.

Brian AtlasUh, you think you're a 10. Would you feel like you were settling if you dated a guy who was not in terms of looks not as good-looking as Chris Pine?

Emily (Coach DT250)If you take it from the Bez Peed pole, like sure, you can take that narrative, but again, for me, just like I believe that I'll be a 10 for my husband and a 10 for myself, I also believe my husband will be a 10 in my eyes as well.

Brian AtlasI don't I don't think you necessarily need to do this. I I think you can state the following that you're really attracted to your partner and you think

Brian Atlasthat they're beautiful and you can maybe even be satisfied with how with how you look and not have insecurities or lack self-confidence. But you can also make a

Brian Atlasdetermination like, okay, I'm not on par with the most beautiful people in the world. And if I'm able to like make a hierarchy and rank order these people based off of their physical

Brian Atlasattractiveness, say, you know, the top best looking people, if they're a 10 and you, you know, give yourself a six or a five, I don't think that being able to

Brian Atlascome to realistic and somewhat accurate determinations as to where you fall on the beauty hierarchy is indicative of your lack of self-confidence or your

Brian Atlaslack of attraction for your partner. In this case, if say a person is genuinely a five and they're dating somebody who's a five, I don't think that you need to

Brian Atlasthink your partner is in terms of looks a 10. Mhm. So, this idea of your partner will find you to be a 10. Like for example, if you

Brian Atlaswere dating a guy and he was like, say he was a bit more um uh blunt and you asked him, you're like,

Emily (Coach DT250)"Would you rate me?" And he said, "Oh, I'd give you like a six. Would you?" So, I think it's a little more multi-dimensional than that. I think that if I was having a conversation with

Emily (Coach DT250)my husband, let's say, I think that when he looked at me and he perceived me, he would say, "Emily, you're a beautiful woman and you're attending my eyes." And then if we took it into the context of okay, but let's take it from a societal standpoint or take it from a universal

Emily (Coach DT250)standpoint of what if you did the Buzzfeed poll, what you would be rated. Those might not be congruent, but that doesn't mean that my husband doesn't see me as the most beautiful woman in the world or I don't see him as the most attractive. Would I believe? Of course, because

Brian Atlasthat's those are my values. I feel here's me. If I'm dating a girl, I I would almost be upset or offended if she was like, "I think you're better

Josie Marcelinolooking than Brad Pitt when he was 25." I'd be like, "Shut the [ __ ] up. You're lying." But maybe she's not because she's also if you're dating her, then she's also taking I know she likes she can't separate all

Brian Atlasthat because now you've got sentiment and experiences and the way you make her feel like she's not going to be able to separate that. likes me because of all those things. But if we're just having a conversation about looks, I think I think if you're in love or in a

Brian Atlasrelationship with somebody, I don't think that that pulls like wool over your eyes to the point where you can't just assess that like hm okay there is possibly somebody who could be better looking than the my partner.

Brian AtlasYeah. Like come on. You can't make so once you're in love, you can't make a determination that like, okay, it's probably the case that uh I don't know who's like Megan Fox is better looking

Josie Marcelinothan than you know. Yeah, but girlfriend or whatever. I think I No, I think Yeah, I think we're not going to find alignment on this cuz again, I don't think that it's you

Josie Marcelinonecessarily going, "Oh, does Brad Pitt have better abs than me?" Then yeah, she might say yes. But like in terms it could be facial attractiveness, too. I think my husband's the most attractive man.

Brian AtlasExactly. I do have photos. No, I really do. Yeah, sure. But I mean, you say that. I do say that. But are you saying physically looks wise he's the most attractive guy? But is now I can't separate how I feel about

Brian Atlashim though. But is this one of those things that you say because it can come to the detriment of your relationship? No, I didn't have to say anything. The truth. No, I know. But like for

Brian Atlasexample, if my if a girl this this old trope of uh hey, do I look fat in this dress? Like it's probably not the right move to say that she looks fat if she actually looks fat. Like that's probably not the right move from an interpersonal

Maddie (Porn)dynamic thing. No, I get what you're saying, but I didn't have to say anything. He's not here or watching this. So I know. So in my case, I'm just being honest. I know. But there there is a component

Brian Atlasof when you have a spouse or you have a relationship, you're going to say things to side with your spouse that might not actually

Emily (Coach DT250)feel that way. But I agree with that. I don't entirely agree with that. Um for me and my partner, I always expect from him and from like for him for me too like to be honest and to have standards.

Emily (Coach DT250)Like you know, for example, like I'm not afraid to tell the guy that I'm dating, hey, it seems like you've been letting yourself go recently, but not from a place of, okay, I am only just because I'm less attracted to you because I actually care about their health and

Emily (Coach DT250)that they're taking care of their body. So, and I don't want my husband to lie to me either. Like the guys that I've dated previously, when I go um when I'm wearing something like a different outfit and I ask them what their opinion is on it, they always give me the truth

Emily (Coach DT250)so I don't look like a fool because they love me and respect me way too much to allow me to go out into the world in something that is not going to be appealing. They they might disagree with their opinion where sometimes I'm like,

Emily (Coach DT250)"Well, actually, babe, I feel hot." So, but that doesn't mean I don't value their opinion, though. Let's face it. If a guy wants a date, he's going to tell you that you're

Holly (62)beautiful. He's going to blow smoke up your ass to get laid. Okay? And you know, if they they're not going to come up to you and go, "Oh, God, you need help. You need to lose weight. You need

Holly (62)a facelift. You need a tummy tuck." They're not going to do that. I see freaking strangers coming up going, "You're beautiful." And I'm looking around going bitching. He thinks I'm beautiful. I love you, too, baby. Where have you been

Mandy (Iran)my whole life? You know, I mean, seriously, I think it's better to just be like honest with ourselves and with our partners that, okay, I'm a five, you're a five, you're great. I love you, but you're a [ __ ] five. It's fine. It's like it doesn't you don't have to be

Mandy (Iran)like, you're a 10 in my eyes because he's not a 10 in your eyes because when you see someone better looking, you know that person is better looking. We know that. But beauty is so in the eye of the beholder. Cuz I don't think you're a five. I think you're a nine. Like,

Josie Marcelinoyou're objectively really hot. She wants to break her off a piece. She's already said she's not into girls and that's fine. But I am saying you are objectively an attractive woman and like maybe you see

Brian Atlasyourself as a five, but I see you as a nine. I would put you as a 10. Just one point of clarification. So beauty is in the high eye of the beholder, but she's objectively a beautiful woman.

Mandy (Iran)Yeah. All right. Fair enough. So if you put if you put if you put me next to someone that is like doesn't really go to a gym or doesn't have you know certain things that I do and then you're going to know

Mandy (Iran)that person is not it's a little bit not as good-looking as me and it's fine. That's like I think that's what the whole conversation is. There's people that are lookwise elite. I I believe that there's people there's elites in

Mandy (Iran)everything. There there's people that are better than other people and I do I do believe that I honestly this is you guys going to hate me but I do believe that men in general are better than women and I'm I I agree with that and I

Mandy (Iran)will always agree with that that are better and I want them in my life and I I wish I had like a father figure that was better than me that was better than my mom that took care of me that I wouldn't be here and if I had a man that is like I want my man to be better than

Mandy (Iran)me and that's why we're where we are in society because we we don't want to agree with it and then now we are we have women in power And we're here arguing about if there's betterlooking people or not. Like let's Well, in fairness, that topic was

Brian Atlasbrought up by a man. But so look, uh, beauty, it's not objective in the strictest philosophical sense, but there are measurable things

Brian Atlaswhen it does come to beauty that are partly predictable, partly measurable. Um and I think like for example universal there are certain universals

Brian Atlasthat I think you would find if we were to show a really really really a picture of a really really really ugly person and a

Brian Atlasreally really really beautiful person. I think there would be a almost universally now there might be a couple people who are like I think the really ugly person is more beautiful whether

Brian Atlasthey're being honest or not hard to say. Uh but I think if for example 99.99% of the population agreed that the one

Brian Atlaswho is really beautiful is more beautiful that does point to some degree of there are some components of beauty that are objective.

Josie MarcelinoI think that's still not the case because like okay obesity for example here in the US that's a hard no we don't like that that's we don't see that as a as a beautiful thing. No, in Samoa, in

Josie MarcelinoMai culture, and in South Africa, the bigger the better. They love women who are obese. If a woman's my size, they're like, "You're way too thin." Are you trying to say that black guys like fat women? Is that what you're

Brian Atlassaying? Nope. Sam are Polynesian. That was a very racist statement. Saman and Mau are Polynesian. When you say South Africa, are you talking about the Africconers or are you

Brian Atlastalking about the I guess the the black people in South Africa? I'm talking about everybody in South Africa. There is genuinely or generally people skew. So among the white population in South

Josie MarcelinoAfrica, they prefer plump women. Yes. The body type is bigger in South Africa. The standard of beauty is bigger in South Africa. Yes. I think it's because poor among amongst both. I think there is countries that like bigger people, but that's because

Emily (Coach DT250)they're so poor. And then in Japan and in Korea and in Taiwan, it's like you have to be real thin. I mean, you can also just look at the history from the past couple of decades, like, you know, about what the the beauty standards at the time. Yeah.

Josie MarcelinoOkay. In the '9s, we thought that like cocaine skinny was like the like you had to be real thin to be hot. And the women who like had a little bit of pudge culture, like you if you were plump and you were very curvy, that means you were wealthy.

Brian AtlasYeah. Yeah. But that points that doesn't necessarily point to what people find physically attractive. I think it it would point more so towards

Brian Atlaslike are you saying like among the peasantry if there's a really fat person? No. They come they're like oh [ __ ] I can marry into a wealthy family so I'm not starving. Let's not even go into that like I don't

Josie Marcelinothink that has necessarily has to do with innate physical attraction. If you go back to just the early 2000s, there on the cover of every magazine was Britney Spears at one point when she got a little bit of weight on her and

Josie MarcelinoJessica Simpson when she was skinnier than me and people were like, "How disgusting." They literally called her a pig wasn't real thin. She wasn't like when she was like 17 and 18 when she was like starting out and in her prime.

Brian AtlasShe was not Hold on. She wasn't like supermodel rail thin. Pull up a picture of her with a snake. She wasn't anorex. She had a healthy body that was a healthy body. She was super fit in tone.

Brian AtlasNo. Okay. Well, fit in tones. But you were talking about like the heroin chic like near like eating disorder model. If you go back to the '90s, you're saying in the '9s, uh, Sir

Brian AtlasMixelot, Baby Got Back. This idea that that was a revolutionary song because he was like, when did that come out? In the late 80s or early 90s or something. idea that oh it's only like in the mid 20 like the

Josie Marcelinoyou know with the Kim Kardashians that a more curvy hold on the that no that was the thing women didn't want to have no women didn't want to have a big butt it was always that's the whole thing sir Mix a Lot Sir Mix a Lot was a was a revolutionary

Brian Atlasin that that's what I'm saying he has the line in the song Cosmos says you're fat do we have down with that do we have any Hold on do we do we have any boomers in the chat did you like a big

Brian Atlasbadonadong Back in the [ __ ] Beach Boy days, you know, you're listening, I don't know, [ __ ] you're at the the the Leonard Skinnard concert in the [ __ ] '7s. You come on.

Josie MarcelinoI don't want to wear this. It makes my butt look fat. That was like a whole thing back in the '9s and the 80s. Like, oh, I don't want my butt to look fat. In that '7s show, there's a whole like scene where Makunas is like, "Those pants make her butt look fat." And it's

Eleanorlike, "Ew, look at her." Well, hold on. Scientology was involved with the 70 island look. I'm not going to uh you know that was some crazy [ __ ] You know, whatever. Um I can say that I remember watching Bring

EleanorIt On and one of the girls like she was saying that like her butt was so big and I remember watching that like you're complaining about having a a fatty like but I guess like back then during that

Holly (62)time it wasn't acceptable to have a big butt Newton John boned skinny in Greece with John Travolta. That was it. Wearing

Brian AtlasYeah. I mean the the dittos and it was just skinny as skinny cookie. We have some chats we got to read. We have uh Oh, this is the I guess this is from Far Lucy. Does Brian meet any of

Brian Atlasyour standards for a boyfriend? Be specific. Rate him. Is it okay for a 50-year-old man? I'm notif what the [ __ ] to date 18-year-old girl and vice versa. Lucy, rate the other girls looks and

Lucy (Data)intelligence 1 to 10. Be honest. Oh my goodness. I have to rate you and I have to rate everybody. Okay. Yeah. And do I meet your standards for a boyfriend? Okay. Well, Brian, um, I would say

Lucy (Data)politically, I don't know you that well. We seem to be not super aligned. Um, and I would say look-wise, I would I mean, you're a conventionally handsome guy, so

Lucy (Data)that is fine. And I enjoy the shirt you're wearing. It doesn't apply to me, by the way, but I I enjoy that representation. Um, and I'm not sure how successful you are, but it seems like you do well

Lucy (Data)college. I mean, no, it seems like you do very well. So, I would say aside from politics, um, and you also seem to be fairly agreeable and kind, so I like that. We'll wait until Oh, yeah. No, go ahead.

Lucy (Data)Okay. Well, so you haven't you haven't been super rude, so I mean, yeah, personalitywise, looks wise, you're great. Just politics, I think we don't align. and then rating your intelligence. Um, I I don't want to get into that because I don't agree with

Lucy (Data)your politics, but that's okay. And then going down the line with all the girls, I think all the girls are very beautiful. Muscle mommy definitely like a 9.9. I wish I had her physique. You can just with a little bit of honore

Lucy (Data)and the gym. Yes. And then I have to be super honest. I would say I mean you're like a very conventionally beautiful girl next door. So I would say like a 9.2 just because your muscles are less big I guess. And then you Wait, really?

Mandy (Iran)Well, slightly compared to her. I don't have any steroids. I don't have any muscles. It's fine. That's for stereo. My muscles is actually going through and eating healthy. Can you uh Hold on. Don't turn it back.

Brian AtlasI think you're Maybe pull that. Yeah, there you go. Did my tip fall. It was all I don't think it is. Maybe. All right. Just if you can finish up quick. Okay. Comed quick. You don't want to

Lucy (Data)hear my assessments. Okay. And then with the comedian. I love comedians. I also think you're very gorgeous. I would give you like 9.9999 just because I mean I have to be super realistic I guess. Um and then for you, you're so lovely. I would definitely give you like a 9.8. I

Lucy (Data)think you're gorgeous. I love your personality. You're super sweet. Um and you too, you're super kind, super pretty. No one here is ugly. Um so yeah, I would also give you like a 9.7 just cuz I don't know you well enough, but

Lucy (Data)you're very natural, very beautiful. Um, and you I respect everything about you, even though we don't align on Trump or politics, but um, yeah, you have a great spirit. So, I'm just going to give you

Lucy (Data)an 8.9 just because of politics. Um, and then, yeah, you're super pretty as well, I would also I would give you like a 9 seven. Um, yeah. And then I Yeah, I guess I

Lucy (Data)didn't rate U Brian, our lovely host. I would Hey, politics aside, I would give him like a 9.5, I suppose. Rock and roll. Did she just lie to all of us? All right, Pasty George. I think chair one

Brian Atlasis on to something because then why do the top 10% of men get literally thousands upon thousands of women willing to jump their pee pees with a drop of a hat? Exactly. And everyone that says they don't care about looks or

Emily (Coach DT250)I was going to ask if I can comment on that. I mean, if you talk about millions of women, like I don't know what the exact population of women in the world is, but if you have millions of women, if 10% of them are superficial and will

Emily (Coach DT250)um and I say that with like with a lot of love and a grain of salt, but like if like only even if only 10% of them are that type of woman, then that's still hundreds of thousands of women that are would agree with that and would jump

Emily (Coach DT250)this person's bones. But again, it's way less. Like yes, physically attractive people attract more types of people and yes, they're going to be more likely the physically drawn women are going to date

Emily (Coach DT250)and possibly sleep with them. But the women who value things beyond that, above physical attraction and emotional intelligence and integrity and values are going to be a little bit more selective than that and they're not going to jump this guy's pants just for

Mandy (Iran)that. I think the women that care about those things are not superficial. They have bitter survival instincts and I think that's what it is. like the PE and the women that don't have that you you guys

Brian Atlaswould not survive natural selection. Also, I don't think it's necessarily like is it wrong for a woman to like say a woman is really well

Mandy (Iran)adjusted? Is it wrong for her to select on the basis of physical attractiveness? I would say no. It's literally our nature to want that. It's okay. It's they I think the society

Mandy (Iran)makes us think certain things that we we want is not okay because that's how they divide us and that's how they make us smaller and smaller by division. But when it comes to it, there's certain things that is the truth. But if we keep saying it's not the truth, we're lying

Mandy (Iran)to each other and it divides us. That's that's why we're becoming so weak and divided and everything's going to [ __ ] It's because we don't want to agree with those things. I just think people should be realistic. It's like, hey, I'm average looking

Mandy (Iran)these days. It's the hardest thing to be real these days because I think there is there is a reason why everyone's being so fake and they don't want to accept reality is because it goes back to I don't know I I have some thoughts on

Mandy (Iran)this that is too deep. But I think division is a way of like the people that are on top to like have us stay small and divide us and think that we're want delusional but I think there is

Lucy (Data)things that are just the real answer to things. Why does it bother you if somebody's Sorry, I think she's been Oh, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. Thank you. You know, I was going to say I actually agree with you on several points um with some minor tweaks. Like I do think division comes

Lucy (Data)from the top, but also when you say um it's in our nature as women to want to go for good-looking guys. I would say it's it's feminine to go for beauty in

Lucy (Data)the sense that men for the most part are ingrained from day one to prioritize beauty in women and to be slightly more superficial. so to say, when it comes to

Lucy (Data)physical attractiveness. But I do think to your point about it being in our best survival interest to go for, you know, like a stronger man, a more of a provider man, like I think that is true.

Lucy (Data)And also, um, the point about how the top 20% of men get the 80% of women or whatever that statistic was, a lot of that I think has to do with women being more hypergamous by nature because as

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