Feminist RAGE QUITS Before Show?! Catholic Pro-Choice Bi Leftist?! Grandma BACK! | Dating Talk #250

Date: 2025-07-07

Duration: 9h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMaddie (Porn)>

JJosie Marcelino >

EEmily (Coach DT250)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Emily (Coach DT250)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lucy (Data)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Marcelina(guest)

SPEAKER_07Holly (62)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Josie Marcelino(guest)

SPEAKER_09Mandy (Iran)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Maddie (Porn)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Eleanor(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduced

Key MomentMaddie: pays $170K alimony to first husband from 1-year marriage

Key MomentJosie: kidnapped on date at 20, stole truck, drove 100mph to escape

Key MomentMarcelina: ex put loaded gun to her head, doused car in acid, killed a girl, now in prison

ControversyMandy: explosive rant blaming feminism and weak men for societal decline

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Mandy (Iran/Vancouver stripper with 3 properties) and Holly (62, Jackass Forever).

Maddie Alimony

Pays $170K total alimony to first husband from 1-year marriage.

Sex Work Discussion

Mandy: 'this shit sucks.' Advocates against sex work.

Male Loneliness Epidemic

Emily raises topic. Panel discusses causes.

Josie Kidnapping Story

Kidnapped on date at 20. Stole attacker's truck. Drove 100mph.

Marcelina Gun to Head

Ex put loaded gun to her head. Doused car in acid. Killed a girl. Now in prison.

Racism Definitions

Lucy argues only those with institutional power can be racist.

Transcript

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Holly (62)There's the oldest third. Come on, you guys. It was in the 60s or in the 70s. It was rocking. The skipper, Gilligan, um, Ginger.

Holly (62)I met uh, what's her name? The other one. Ginger was the one that was the red head. This what? What's her name? The other one. All right, you can pull it up, I guess. Oh, you guys got it. See, there he is.

Holly (62)First held it at third. Look at his lovey. Uh, can you click on that? had the lifestyle portrayed by Scroll down. I want to live. No, they're probably all dead. Click on the actor. Yeah,

Holly (62)I want to find You want He he died in ' 89. Well, he was the last. He was loaded. That's what I like. Wait. So, okay. Um, are you single?

Holly (62)Well, yeah. Okay. Uh, longest relationship? Well, it's a blur. Nothing matters. I'm not married. No. Never been married. No. Uh longest relationship. It's a blur. It doesn't even matter cuz

Holly (62)they don't worth it. No. Because you know if the D guy doesn't give you a decent diamond and does a formal proposal, none of these panty waist

Holly (62)proposals that are going, "Oh my god, you were going to do it, weren't you? That's why you got me here to wear the hat. Huh?" Oh, I was going to It was coming my way. I was going to propose to you. I've been waiting. I am so grateful. Have you ever been

Holly (62)proposed to? I I have, but it didn't make you cry. If I would have been your first, but No, no, no. You're going to be my first real one because these other ones are like, "Oh, fuck." What?

Holly (62)Yeah, exactly. That's what I said to hit that 10 times. Oh, I am so fortunate that I found out before I got married because a lot of

Holly (62)girls just want a wedding. They run down the aisle. It lasts about two weeks when they find out the dude is not good. But I can see he is really good. This is getting me excited. Look at that.

Holly (62)Wait, we need to talk. He's You know what? He's a big tease. [Laughter] Are you giving me lovey babies? Oh, look at that.

Holly (62)That's all right. I want lovey babies. It's easy to fall for lovey babies. Okay. Um, no. Next question. No kids though, right? No kids. Never made. No kids. No. Uh, weren't you dating the My Pillow?

Brian AtlasWhat is it? My Pillow guy? I wasn't dating, but I'm telling you, I had the flatout hots for that dude. Yeah, but you were texting with him. Oh, yeah. But you know what? Mike got

Holly (62)married a year ago, April. But I think personally, yeah, personally, I was the one that um

Holly (62)that lit the fire under his ass because he would keep her in the background. And it's like, dude, if if this is your

Holly (62)woman, make it known because any man that's legitimate lets you know that it's my wife, it's my girlfriend, it's my this. We don't play vague.

Brian AtlasNever play vague. And so what I did is I got got him in the corner. You got him in the corner like in the cuck chair or No, I got him in the corner. He was like watching in the corner crying.

Brian AtlasFour months later, he was married. Damn. You m You missed him. No, I didn't miss him. Did you guys have carnal knowledge or You know, there's things you don't talk about.

Holly (62)There's Did you guys go to um somewhere? What's that song? No, we're not discuss. He's a married

Holly (62)man. He's a married man now. And what does it say? Let uh no one put a let sleeping dogs lie. No, it's something like never, you know,

Holly (62)when you make those vows, don't let anybody like do anything. Don't forsake all others. It's, you know, nobody messed with now that there's a union, you know.

Holly (62)Yeah. You just don't do that.

Holly (62)Okay. Um, cool. Cool. Okay. So, there are there any guys in the picture currently? Oh my god. I just told you I just got an offer to be a sugar baby. Two grand.

Holly (62)That's crazy. You I you I gave you the whole text. It showed the guy's face. the whole I texted you the whole thing. I'll look at it. I'll look at it. Yeah. I I'm telling you I I'm constantly

Holly (62)loved bombed and you know anybody know Facebook, right? You get Facebook, right? And then you got your Messenger, the the billion dollar company. Yeah. People that come to Messenger, it's

Holly (62)like, dude, get out of my Messenger. Okay. If you want to talk to me, talk on Facebook, right? Anybody that keeps coming over and like thing binging bing bing bing bing bing bing

Brian Atlasand when somebody's telling you that they love you here I'll read it they haven't even met you sorry if this offends you but I find you attractive and I'd love to have you as my sugar baby letting you know my

Brian Atlasintentions and willing to spoil you with the sum of 2,000 weekly allowance. Only if you could be loyal and sincere to me would you want that. So this is uh probably a scam. How dare you? No,

Brian Atlasyou're blowing my fantasy. Well, so the like I I don't mean to blow your fantasy, but I get these messages on like Tik Tok. So, it's a scam. It's a scam.

Holly (62)I've got an ad right now on Facebook letting people know that I'm looking some for a sugar daddy that will supply more than two grand a week. Could not. So, are you getting responses, though? You did an ad. I don't know. I haven't checked my

Josie MarcelinoFacebook. Damn. Okay. Hey. Wait, when you say an ad, do you mean an ad that you paid for you promoted an ad? Okay, which is I just posted on my Facebook. Can anybody top this? Tryyous are at

Brian Atlasfive line forms on to the right. Okay. All right. Wow. Okay. Um, but what about like any genuine, you know, prospects, not sugar? Okay. This is a Okay, here's one that

Holly (62)just happened. This is ridiculous, right? I get somebody in my messenger that's like posting constantly. I do a lot of political stuff, so I don't mind one or two. But when they're starting to do it like 10, 15 times a day, it's

Holly (62)like, "Get a life. You're trying to get my attention." And I just went, "Dude, are you married?" Because let's just cut to the chase, cuz married men hit on me all the time, and it pisses me off. Um,

Holly (62)he says, "No." I said, "Okay, cool. Tell me your story." You know, he starts talking, tells me in Florida, I'm going, "I don't waste my time. You're in Florida." So, I'm going out with a

Holly (62)girlfriend um out to dinner and she's coming in from Florida and I'm thinking, "Ding, ding, ding. She lives in Florida. This dude lives in Florida. I'm going to

Holly (62)set her up, right?" She sits down and I said, "Hey, um do uh I have this guy in my messenger. He's from Burbank. Uh but he's lived in Florida for like 28

Holly (62)years." I said, "I don't know what part of Florida you're at, but you know, I'm thinking about setting you up." I said, "Do this." I said his name and she goes,

Holly (62)"I'm living with him." I go, "What? What? This dude has been in my messenger the whole time. You never told me you were living with anybody. He told me he

Holly (62)wasn't married. She was married to him, but got divorced." Yeah. And only keeps him around now because he gets disability. And she needs the 600 bucks to help pay her rent. Anniey's

Holly (62)watching her dogs while she's in California. But I went out of the world. I I mean, is that the craziest story? It's very crazy. It's like, what? You're going out with the very woman I'm going out to dinner

Holly (62)with? Speaking to Mike. You're going out to dinner? I I'm going and I'm going, "Oh my god." And then all of a sudden, she brings out all these dating photos. I said, "Look, it I'm not interested. I'm not interested at all,

Holly (62)but I don't want there to be any hard feelings. And I said, "So, I just blocked him." Okay. And I wanted to tell you I blocked him because I just want to

Holly (62)stifle it. And And I I kind of feel like she took umbrage because she was supposed to do this show. Um, good word, with me. You know, she was supposed to come out and do this and she's going,

Holly (62)"Oh, I'm busy." And I'm just going, "What? You begged me for this?" Damn. So, it's craziness. That's so crazy. It's crazy. That's two rage quits for this episode. Wow. That's crazy.

Holly (62)It's crazy. It's really crazy out there. It's crazy. It's crazy.

EleanorUh, what about you? Relationship status. I am currently single. Um, I've been single since April and my longest relationship was 6 years. Is that the one that ended 3 months ago? Yeah.

EleanorOh [ __ ] Okay. So, that's pretty. So, that what three months ago? June. April. May June. Yeah. Three months. Three. Four. Who broke up with who? It was a mutual breakup. Yeah.

EleanorMhm. Um, we started dating when we were like 21. We're the same age. We're both like, we're literally just a month apart. Um, you know, when you start off dating really young, sometimes you grow up and

Eleanorjust grow apart and be different people. And that's kind of what happened between us. And we were also kind of like at a point in our lives where it was better

Eleanorfor us to be single individually because that way we can kind of like focus on taking care of ourselves instead of like both of us drowning together. So we kind

Eleanorof made the decision to like split apart and like just be like, "Yeah, you go do you, I'mma go do me." And I I like to believe that we're still civil. I like to Are you guys still Are you guys living

Eleanortogether or No. Were you guys living together back then? Yeah. But then um March 31st came, turned in the keys, he moved out, I moved out, and now we're kind of just

Eleanorliving our own separate lives. Gotcha. Okay. So, you say it was mutual. Yeah. But did somebody broach the topic first of a breakup?

EleanorThat was definitely me. Was it mutual then? So in February, a lot of stuff happened in our lives and

Eleanorthere was like a lot of situations where we were starting to like struggle and like kind of drown and it was just simply better for us to kind of just focus on ourselves and like focus on

Eleanorlike taking care of ourselves because something that you know we love each other. We loved each other so much to where it's like we were kind of

Eleanorneglecting ourselves to make the other person happy and we were both doing that. So it kind of got really toxic in that sense to where we stopped taking care of ourselves just to please the

Brian Atlasother person and you know we're both aware of that and Okay. And uh was there any infidelity on either side? Um, well, I don't think I

Eleanorshould be answering that question just for I'm I'm comfortable letting my business out there, but you know, like that is a whole different person, you know, so I don't know if they're comfortable letting their business out there. Did you cheat on them?

EleanorH Did you cheat on them? not sexually, but there was a point in my life where I did um I did like was messaging other people

Eleanorand like that was more like emotional. And yeah, I admit it's a very shitty thing to do, but all you can really do is kind of accept and take accountability that you did it and grow

Eleanorfrom it. And we were still able to like have a relationship after that happened. Oh. Um how far into the relationship did that happen? Um couple years. I don't really remember exactly, but it it didn't precipitate the

Brian Atlasbreakup. No. Okay. So, what 3 years in, four years in? Yeah. And for what period of time was this going on? Couple months, a year? Um, the the texting

Brian Atlasyou said? Yeah, the texting. Um, it was only like a couple of weeks. Okay. Was it multiple different guys? A particular guy? Just one person. Okay. Was it somebody you worked with? No, it was literally just some person

Brian Atlasonline. Tik Tok influencer star. No, just a random dude. Were did you know him or just a random? We were like mutuals on Twitter. On Twitter?

EleanorMhm. Yeah. And we would just flirt with each other in the DMs. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I still think that's like emotionally cheating.

EleanorI think that's Were you guys exchanging photographs of a explicit nature? It was literally just like flirting like I we were giving each other attention. So, you know,

EleanorI know a lot of people don't agree with me. Um I've definitely had people tell me like, "Oh, it wasn't physical, so it doesn't count as cheating." Me personally, I don't really agree with that, you know?

EleanorLike, okay. I think I think me messaging another person while I was in a relationship was like emotional cheating. Mhm.

Brian AtlasUh did he did you tell him? Did he find out by like how did this rise to the surface I guess?

EleanorSo without revealing any personal information on his side, he just found out and we were we pretty much like had space from each other for a couple days.

EleanorI think it was like four days honestly and then we talked about it and we pretty much said like yeah like this happened. Um, we we still cared each other cared about each other a lot. So,

Eleanorwe agreed to like still try to make it work. And it did. You know, I think we still had like a really good like year or two after where we were like doing things really well for each other. We were like taking care of each other.

EleanorIt's just um honestly it really was the financial issues that broke us up. What do you What were the financial issues? Um,

Eleanorso there was a lot of bills that were not getting paid and um, you guys were living together. Yes. At the time we were living together. Okay.

Brian AtlasYes. So there were a lot of bills that weren't getting paid. And were you working? Yes. And he wasn't. He was make he was making money. Was it 50/50 you guys were splitting it

Eleanoror what was the arrangement? So the arrangement was that it was to be 50/50, but you know, stuff happens sometimes. You know, sometimes they may not be able to pull their weight or I there were even times when I couldn't pull my

Eleanorweight. So in a relationship, you pretty much just have to like if if my partner can't do his part like this time, I can do more just to like

Eleanoraccommodate for them. If I can't do my part, then I would expect my partner to do a little more to accommodate for me. That way, it's still like equal imbalance. But there were financial issues and that

Eleanorwas a problem. Okay. So, yeah, because of the financial issues, we decided like it would be better for us to split up and kind of like make ourselves better people for ourselves instead of drowning in the

Brian Atlasfinancial issues. Can you move the the headphones, please? All right. Okay. Uh, well, that's everybody's relationship status. Uh, have you had a rebound?

EleanorNo. I've been working a lot to kind of like distract myself, so I don't even think I've had time for a rebound. Have you been on any dates? [Music]

EleanorI did go out for ice cream with my like he was cute, but he was like more like my friend, and you know, we decided to just stay as friends, but we got ice cream. He was your friend? Yeah.

EleanorLike he was friends with you while you were in the relationship. Like so I use friend very loosely. He was definitely just like an acquaintance, somebody that I know from

Eleanorlike the art community. So um there was like an event and then you know we kind of talked a little bit. Then we started texting a little. We went out for ice cream and then um yeah, you know, we

Eleanorwere interested in each other, but we just decided to like, hey, let's just keep it not dating. During the course of your relationship,

Eleanorhad you exchanged communications with this guy you went to get ice cream with? Only at events, but like not outside of events. Okay. Because you described him as a friend, right?

EleanorYeah. I I used that term a little loosely. I just meant like he's somebody that I had already known. Like it wasn't some random person that I met at the grocery store. How how soon after you broke up did you go on the date for ice cream with this guy?

EleanorI think it was like in May. I don't really remember. Actually, it definitely was in May cuz it was after I went to Universal. Okay. So, it was like a month after uh you broke up. Mhm.

EleanorOkay. How did he know that you guys had broken up? Oh, well, my breakup was definitely like it spread like wildfire. Well, it was public. I mean,

Eleanorit was not public. It's just it was more like, you know, a lot of people found out and people whisper really really fast. People were finding out about my breakup and I didn't even like really

Eleanortell that many people. Um, I have I have a big family too, so my family told a lot of people. Are you Filipino? Yes, I am Filipino.

Brian AtlasUm, okay. Uh, well, this is just kind of like why I think it's bad for people to have friends of the opposite sex because half the time they're just

Brian Atlaswaiting for you to be single so they can Yeah. But that wasn't really her friend. That was just a dude that she knew in the same space. Yeah. Well, the the original way she described it. Yeah. But now it's okay. It's like an acquaintance or whatever. But

Brian AtlasMhm. That's why you got to be wary of the friends, you know. Um, we're going to read a couple chats, then we're going to get into some of the show topics. We have Hall Long Nate, were any of the Jackass crew among the millionaires

Brian Atlasyou've dated? Oh my god, bro. You're being extra. Going to [ __ ] [ __ ] up.

Brian AtlasYou want to just put it back where it was?

Brian AtlasWait, don't. It's You're not going to be able to get it off. Did it fit the under? the other finger. It's not supposed to go on the pinky. All right, Felicity, procure it back.

Brian AtlasPlease put it back in. Um, can we get a picture of this first, please? Maybe after the show. Um, can we do a zoom a zoom? Yeah. Okay. Uh, Nick, do a zoom in. Okay, he zoomed in. He got a picture. It's great.

Holly (62)Um, did you date any of the jackass guys into the mic? Uh, did I date the jackass guys? Uh, I

Holly (62)think I was in shock. I mean, the dude was on I thought he was on fire. Um, got and what happened is they um

Holly (62)they took you away so quick after the fact because I was in shock. And then all of a sudden I see all these param

Holly (62)all of these paramount paramount um god trucks, vans, the whole bit. And I'm going, "Oh my god, it's the Paramount. It's a movie." And they're

Holly (62)going, "Yeah, you were just punked." I'm going, "Oh my god." Cuz I didn't know what Johnny Knoxer looked uh like. And I you know what? I still really don't know what he looks like. He they had a show

Holly (62)on right after that. But back to No, I didn't date anybody from that, but uh Okay, I it led to another show to do that I got to do.

Brian AtlasAll right, we have a message here. Our TTS for from Sir Gwain Bone Tower. Sorry guys, the TTS is uh we'll still do it at the same time rate, but it won't be read

Brian Atlasout through whatever. Um, yes. It seems university and college for all its privileges may in fact be less than cubrious environment for the forming of young women. Ladies, what decade was World War I? Starting with you, what

Brian Atlasdecade World War I? I have no [ __ ] idea. Take a guess. Throw a guess out there. I don't know. Just name a decade. Just take a guess. I'm a woman. I don't know. Okay. Uh, I didn't go to college or high school.

Maddie (Porn)Doesn't matter. Throw a guess. World War I. Do I say like decade six? I don't know. What is what do you say in a decade 40s50s60s7s? Uh 20s. 20s. Okay. What about you? It's the 1910s. What do you think? What do you think?

Emily (Coach DT250)Yeah, I was going to say Great Depression was the 20s. So, it' probably be around the 10. I might be thinking of World War II. I thought 1930s. Okay. What about 1910s? Okay. What? 1910. Into the mic. 1910. Okay. What about you?

Brian Atlas1910. All right. Congratulations. It was 1914 to 1918. Well done. We have um I'm going to have you know I'm going to have one of the girls read this. Uh I'm going to have you do the reads for some of these.

Maddie (Porn)Okay. Uh so Becky from Vancouver. Thank you. Appreciate that. I'm reading this. Yeah. Ladies, would you date a manchild who

Brian Atlasplays video games? Grown men, why are you still playing video games? I can answer this. So I'm reading and you're answering. It's the same reason that you women wear

Brian Atlasmakeup. What? It's a nice It's a nice little escape from reality. Okay. Interesting. So, I think it's

Josie MarcelinoI know a guy. I think you'd be better saying that's why women watch reality TV. You play Men play video games for hours, which is fine. Nobody's spending nine hours on their

Josie Marcelinomakeup just zoning out. I do. Unless you're an influencer, I guess. But yeah, kidding. I know sometimes. But yeah, like consuming con or like engaging in content is different or like media is different than just doing your makeup.

Brian AtlasOkay, cool. Yeah, cool. Uh oh, we have a chat here from Oh, we have this. Somebody bought an item. Lance the invisible. Thank you for

Brian Atlasthat. Appreciate it. Uh guys, shop. if you want to buy some merch and uh something about a duck. Something about Yeah, that's right. Uh we we'll do just shout outs for those. We don't do the actual read. It

Brian Atlaslets you add like a message, but thank you for the uh purchase on chop whatever.com. Josh Brooks, he uh I'll have you read it. Go ahead. Megan. Yeah.

Maddie (Porn)Oh, Brian, bring the cat into the family. Chair one, I haven't heard anything you've said. Oh, look, a poll. Chair two, your ex is a disgrace to the

Maddie (Porn)service. Magga ma'am, you rock. Chair seven, young Alanis Moriceet. Chair seven. That's you. Me? Yeah. Oh, you do kind of have like a young

SPEAKER_02Alonest look. Chair seven is is Holly. Yeah, I was going to say I think he meant chair six though. Six.

Brian AtlasUh, I definitely think he meant chair six there. Alana. Do you know who that is? Alonus Morset. I forgot. But uh Google a photo for Nick just for context.

Brian AtlasAnd then oh we have a TTS coming in. Oh my. I'm sorry guys. I don't know why the TTS isn't working. Uh chat. Would you rather get a massage from a gay man or

Brian Atlassurgery from a female doctor? Serious surgery. So basically, would you rather get a massage or die? What? My sprinkler. I I'm not going to uh

Brian AtlasThank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Um, so that's a question for the chat. Uh, okay. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Do you have a picture

Emily (Coach DT250)young? Do young. Like just type young, I guess. Oh, yeah. You're both stunning. Yeah, that makes sense. That I pulled out. Yeah. So, I guess maybe it's just the hair. You did.

Brian AtlasMaybe the hair. A little bit. The hair a little bit. Yeah, I think it's just the hair. Wait, scroll back up. Scroll up. I've never gotten that one before. I see it. Yeah, I do, too. I think you have to wait. Do you put

Marcelinayour eyebrows? Do you do that thing where you push them up? Uh, yeah. I hairspray them, but I do have a bald spot and I just pluck it out to make Are you able to like put them like just flat like that? Instead of going up, you put them like Yeah. I mean, yeah,

Brian AtlasI think that'll make it more I mean, they kind of some grow up and then I don't know, both my eyebrows. Okay, a mind of their own. Yeah. Uh, and then, oh, we have another

Brian Atlaschat here from Wait, no, hold on. From where did it go? What the heck? Sorry, guys. Trying to find it.

Brian AtlasUh, where did it go? Ah, here it is. Okay, Becky. Oh, no. I already did. Wait, what the heck?

Maddie (Porn)Do you like a drum roll? Yeah, right.

Brian AtlasDid I miss it? Wait. Sorry, guys. One sec. Let me I don't want to screw somebody. I don't want to screw somebody who sent in a Streamlabs messages. So, I just want to double check. Make sure I got it. Yeah, take your time. Okay, we did Glactavius. We did the

Brian AtlasBecky from Vancouver. We did the D uh World War I. Okay, we're good. We're all caught up. All right, we're going to get into some pre-show notes. Oh, there's I asked

Brian Atlasyou to pull something up, Nick, the Instagram. Why don't we start there? All right, so this is uh Lucy over here. He who gives good head lends to the Lord.

Lucy (Data)He So, is that an actual scripture or like is that a Bible verse or what? I I did grow up in the church, but that's not in the Bible. I just thought it was really witty and ironic and

Brian Atlasfunny. Oh, do do you think that it might be offensive towards Christians or Not the ones with a sense of humor? Yeah, I'm Catholic. You get a pass. That's a funny shirt. Yeah, really Catholic.

Brian AtlasI am Catholic. I am baptized and confirmed and all that. Yeah. Well, we'll get into that, but um so I guess would you wear a shirt like that, but it's like referencing Islam or Muhammad?

Lucy (Data)So, I would feel uncomfortable doing that just out of cultural sensitivity because I actually grew up in the Christian faith. And so, I think it's more acceptable to critique a culture that is ingrained in you rather than

Lucy (Data)attacking someone else's culture or faith that has no effect on you and that you don't you're not familiar with yourself. Okay. So if you were if you had grown up

Lucy (Data)Muslim then you would feel more justified to make a critique of Islam or I think so because then yeah I think because then I would have a personal experience with it and it would have actually affected me.

Lucy (Data)But would you do it though is the question probably. Yeah. I mean I love to um make fun of serious matters in a way that

Brian Atlasdoesn't harm anyone. Okay. Um I mean I have some doubts as if you if you would do that though. Why is that?

Brian AtlasWell, it seems like um people have gotten very comfortable being disrespectful towards Christianity. Whereas even somebody who's an apostate

Brian Atlasin the Islamic faith, I don't think a lot of them would feel comfortable outwardly uh disrespecting the faith just because of the potential for ramifications. Yeah.

Josie MarcelinoUm but isn't that also like in order to when it comes to the Abrahamic religions, in order to be a Christian, you really just all you have to do is believe in Jesus. And to be Jewish,

Josie Marcelinoyeah, there's a heritage aspect to it because it's an ethno religion, but also like you just have to study the Torah. Like most Jews don't actually believe in God, but in order to be Muslim, you have to obey the Quran, whereas you don't have to do that for Christianity or

Brian AtlasJudaism. A point of clarification on your statement there. When it comes to Judaism, are you saying cultural Jews or are you talking about religious Jews? Because I would assume people who are religiously Jewish probably believe in

Josie MarcelinoGod. Yeah. The ones that are like actively going to temple believe in God. But there's levels and sex of Judaism. So you have hidic people and people who keep kosher and orthodox people. And then you have people who are just very

Josie Marcelinorelaxed celebrate the high holy days. Like there's levels to it. But all of them are apply to like Christianity too. People just celebrate Christmas or whatever. It doesn't really apply. But in Christianity to be a Christian you still have to have that faith in Jesus.

Josie MarcelinoOh I mean, I'm not really interested in a theological debate, but I mean, we're saying what's your point about that in order to be Muslim and to consider yourself Muslim and be part of Islam, you have to obey the Quran. Sure.

Josie MarcelinoAnd that would go against what the Quran's teachings are. So, you won't find a Muslim doing that, right? But you find an ex-Muslim doing it. And you and her name is Mia Khalifa, right? But are you you're not Christian anymore?

Josie MarcelinoNo, I'm not. Right. She's an ex-Christian who is But you said you don't you wouldn't believe that she would do that if she was Muslim. And if she was Muslim, if she was I meant I meant if she was an

Josie Marcelinoex-Muslim. Yeah. Me Khalifa did. So maybe she would. Did she? She got banged out in a hijab. Yeah. Okay. Multiple times.

Brian AtlasSure. I guess I mean look, it's logically possible that an ex-Muslim could say things that are defamatory towards the religion or

Brian Atlastowards their prophet or whatever. I just think it's uh I think it's less likely to occur just because of the potential ramifications of doing that. Anyways, I feel like we're king. Um

Mandy (Iran)why is that? Why is that? I make fun I I make fun of that religion a lot and my social media and I get in a lot of trouble. But if I make fun of Christianity, everyone just

Brian Atlaslaughs and think it's funny. Yeah. Well, I mean, on on one hand, uh I don't think somebody should be subject to violence for speech.

Brian AtlasYeah. Uh so I'm not I'm not suggesting if you like blasphem somebody's religion that they should like behead you or something but there is it is kind of an

Brian Atlasinteresting dynamic where there is more respect shown towards uh Islam even from like when I moved to Canada from like white people why do they respect my country's religion more than Christianity

Brian AtlasI don't know it's weird demon possessed it's very weird demon possessed what the [ __ ] Oh, were you gonna say something or Oh, no. Read it. Oh, you're okay. Uh, I'll read it. Uh,

Brian AtlasHolly Chair 7, do you prefer men who drive 3, 4, 1, 2.5, or 80 ton trucks? Asking for a friend. You know, I could That's a hall long Nate. He's a long haul trucker.

Brian AtlasUm, he I think he's single. I could You want You want me to get you guys? How you doing? Where have you been all my life? What do you think? Do you see his profile picture? Do you think he's handsome? I think you're handsome. He's got a good little goatee going.

Brian AtlasDo you like the goatee? I love it. All right. Can we get you guys set up? Uh Nate, do you want the the link or what? You want you want me to get you guys linked up or

Brian AtlasYeah. Okay. All right. Uh Lewis, thanks for the super chat. Appreciate it. Okay. So, we're going to get back to the notes here. Going back to Lucy. Um Lucy

Brian AtlasGoosey, you're a stripper, data scientist, of creator. Uh, any plastic surgery? Yes, I've had a butt reduction.

Lucy (Data)Stop the cap. You've had a butt reduction? Yes. You can tell if you scroll back far enough. It used to be quite large and now it's normal looking.

Lucy (Data)So, you had a BBL and you got rid of it. No, I had um a hip flip and then I got rid of it. And the did the hip flip did that that

Lucy (Data)was the butt reduction? Yeah, the hip flip made my lower body too wide. So I reversed it. You reverse the the the hip flip. Have you had a lip flip too? No, I have not. Do you have But do you have uh the

Lucy (Data)filler then? Just No. No, I don't. Can you turn that way? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's just your her makeup. I overline my lips. But no, I

Lucy (Data)no I don't think there's anything wrong with modifications. Um I just can't afford to right now. Uh have you had any other procedures? No. Any Okay. Anything in the face?

Lucy (Data)No. No Botox or anything either. Asian don't raisin. Lipo. No. Well, the the reverse um uh hip flip was the lipo. The butt reduction. You've not you've not had anything in

Josie Marcelinothe stomach? No. I mean, you can see the rolls if you zoom in. I'd rather you not. He's saying your body looks unbelievably good. Thank you. Which it does.

Brian AtlasThank you. She looks great. What are you talking about? Please don't put words in my mouth. Now I'm like backed into a corner where

Brian Atlasit sounds like I just insulted her. But cuz I mean I I w when I saw that shirt on your Instagram, I looked at the rest of your Instagram.

Lucy (Data)You don't have Come on. You've had some Well, I mean, I've invested thousands in personal training.

Brian AtlasOkay. All right. All right. If you say so. Um, anybody, anyone else here have any plastic surgery or anything like that? I had a breast lift. I lost 70 lbs and I picked them back up. There you go. What about you,

Brian AtlasQueen? I had tits and lips. Tits. Tits, lips. Okay. Cool. Uh, continuing on with your notes, Lucy, you said you dated the famous dating coach's brother. Who's that?

Lucy (Data)Oh gosh, I don't want to dox anyone, but there was Oh, I'm surprised you remembered. There was a British dating coach and his brother lives in my neighborhood and we went out.

Lucy (Data)Okay. You said you dated a man in his 40s who ghosted you overnight and wouldn't even return your stuff. Yes, that happened as well. another British man, different different British

Lucy (Data)man a few years ago. I was seeing him for almost 3 months and then overnight he just dropped off the face of the earth. And you didn't get your stuff back. Were you guys living together or?

Lucy (Data)No. No. I was just over there a few nights a week. So, I had some things there that I wasn't able to get back. Gotcha. Okay. Uh, wait, hold on. Um,

Lucy (Data)wait. You said you've been single for how long? Uh, I've been celibate for 3 years and then this dating situation happened about 2 years ago. In your pre-show notes that you provided to us, you said that you were currently

Lucy (Data)dating a man eight years younger than you. Oh, yes. We went out on three dates, but that is now over. Oh, okay. Um,

Brian Atlasall right. Uh, you wanted to talk, actually, we're going to come back to some of this stuff, but uh, you play five instruments. Oh, yes. Why didn't you DM me about that?

Brian AtlasYeah, I asked if you could bring a cello, but maybe it's too much of an ask. Uh, you're a high school validictorian and then turned vix in. You, too. Also, you validictorian.

EleanorUhhuh. I was giving her her claps. I was just giving her her claps. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. And let's see. We'll get into

Brian Atlassome of your other notes a little bit later. We're going to go to Maddie. Hi. Yo. Okay. So, um,

Brian Atlashave you ever slept with a platoon? A whole platoon? Oh, no. But I've been like I've I've tried. You tried to do it, but it didn't work. Okay. I

Maddie (Porn)I just I slept with a lot of people in the military. You said you've dis disagreed with a show host quite a bit uh on what? I don't even remember to be honest with you. I don't even remember what I was

Maddie (Porn)talking about. I'm going to keep it so a buck with you. just anything. You said you dis you you

Maddie (Porn)disagree with I mean I disagree with your points on like only fans girls like not being able to have meaningful relationships or like having families.

Maddie (Porn)Pull that up. Uh like I've heard you say things about them not like having families and relationships and I completely disagree with that. Oh well I I don't think I've ever made

Brian Atlasthe claim that it's an impossibility or just that it doesn't happen. Yeah. I think it it makes dating more difficult. It does. Yeah. That's that's my position. Okay. Well, then we're besties then.

Maddie (Porn)Sure. Uh Okay. Yeah. I mean, you're you're married. You've been married more times than I have. Well, that could I guess that could be a negative on it, too. That could that could prove your point, too.

Brian AtlasThat's just military dating. You said that Steven Crowder did a whole podcast about you and your dad. He did. We have some videos that we're going to pull up. Uh the awful And what is the bubble brats thing?

Maddie (Porn)So that's what I used to go by. Okay. That was like my alter ego. No, it was like my first username for a long time. And then I had to stop using it cuz it got like shadowbanned.

Maddie (Porn)Gotcha. And like too many people took my identity or like they were pretending somebody make made a fake account of me and did some really bad stuff. Mhm. And then I just decided to move my name away from the the name. Sure.

Brian AtlasAnd use a real name. Sure. Um we're going to get into that really quick, but Nick, can you pull up the thing I sent? So earlier in the conversation, you were saying you're Oh, F11. You got to get this. Wait. Oh my.

Brian AtlasOh yeah, I was wrong. It was $170,000. You're out of F11 in StreamYard. So you got to get F. Okay, let's bring it uh bring it back over. Okay. Uh so

Brian Atlasthe defendant shall have from the plaintant as a lumpsum property settlement the sum of $170,000 with 50,000 to be paid within 10 days of the

Brian Atlasdate of this order and the remainder to be paid over a term of 36 months at a rate of $3,334 per month. Uh and then I don't know if

Brian Atlasany of this each party shall retain his or her property blah blah blah. Okay. So, was was it a contentious divorce? I don't know what the contentious was. Uh, was it Were you guys fighting

Brian Atlasa little? Was he like, "You owe me this." Yes. He was very sassy. Okay. So, you're paying him pull it back up really quick. $170,000. My goodness. For one year of marriage where he did nothing.

Brian AtlasOne year of marriage. Yes. So, this is what happens to dudes all the time. Um, but it's happening to me. But it's happening. Wow. The role reversal here.

Brian AtlasI hate it. Damn. RIP. Uh well, you must be doing pretty well then if uh you're paying him that much in alimony, I suppose. Right. I suppose. Do you make seven figures a year? Yes.

Brian AtlasOkay, cool. Uh we also have some Tik Toks from you. Uh I think I pulled those up. Find a Tik Tok. Oh, Nick. To go full screen on Tik Tok, you have to do the three dots in the in the top. Just give me a sec.

Brian AtlasYeah, it makes them really bad to talk. Yeah. Yeah, you're good. Take your time. And uh while we're doing that, guys, go to twitch.tv/ whatever. Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one. Uh Elbrando, thank for the

Maddie (Porn)That's me. Nope, wrong one. Oh, they're going to call you out, too. See you on the top of block. That's not even one. You're coming up next. It's like I don't know. Kaibaka, thank

Brian Atlasyou for the gifted sub and thank for the I think you sent 20 earlier and Moki, thank for the the uh prime there. Uh while we're getting that pulled up, going back to you, you said that it hasn't worked out with any of the men because they listen

Mandy (Iran)to you. Yeah. Explain that. Um I don't know. They just listen to me. They take I just feel like by me doing what I'm doing, the guys that are

Mandy (Iran)attracted to me are not the guys that I want and they listen to me. They're not very masculine and so do you want a guy to disregard

Mandy (Iran)all things? I think I fully accept the consequences of my my decisions that this is like what I have dating like what I have for dating like the the men

Mandy (Iran)that I want what I I wanted to date is like someone that is like extremely masculine wants a girl that is like not like me. So obviously I'm not like matching that. You know what I mean?

Mandy (Iran)Like I my like men that I like see that I'm like this is like a man that I want that has this kind of like thought process would be someone like Andrew Tate and that's like not someone that would want me.

Brian AtlasHow do you know that? I don't know. I just feel like in most situations. Have you slid into his DM? No, I haven't. I don't even know if uh Get her phone. We're going to have her slide into Oh, wait. But he's banned on Instagram. Do you have Twitter? No, I don't have anything.

Mandy (Iran)You don't have Twitter? Just Instagram. Um, I'm going to DM him right now for you. Yeah, ask him. Be like, "Yeah, that's like literally maker today." Yeah. And I'm actually going to DM him.

Mandy (Iran)I watch your show and one of your co-hosts, he I don't know his name. He's like an older dude. Andrew Tate. Wait, hold on. By the end of the night, everybody's going to be taken.

Maddie (Porn)Yeah, for real. The matchmaking podcast. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Sending Andrew. What about Tristan Tate? Hold on. Let me I'm gonna do a voice memo. Wait, hold on.

Brian AtlasPrimal. Primal. Wait, wait. Define primal. I will define primal. Hold on. Be quiet for a sec. Hey, what's up, Andrew? I'm live right

Brian Atlasnow on the podcast. And uh I have a woman on the show who is interested in you. Uh she's very muscular though, so I don't know. Agreed. Good kids,

Brian Atlasbut she's interested. Let me know if you're down for a date. Okay. I don't know. Whatever. All right. Girl, just start dating Dominican guys from New York. You'll be happy.

Mandy (Iran)No, I'm not interested in Dominicans, but um but yeah, and I watched your show with your co-host and the way you guys were talking, I was like, "Okay, that's kind of like um the same kind of like

Mandy (Iran)thought process." So, anyone that is primal and believes in like those things. So, you want to date Andrew Wilson? Not like date him, but like those thought process, that thought process

Mandy (Iran)usually is not attracted to me, even though that's my exact thought process, but they're not interested in me because of the the decisions that I made. But, you know what I mean,

Mandy (Iran)which is understandable. I get it. It's a consequence of my own actions. But why is that? Why? Why did I have the power or like the to get make this decisions? You know, I feel like I

Brian Atlasshouldn't have been able to. Wait, you feel like you shouldn't have been able to? Yeah. I think I So, you think there should be laws that prevent prevent or control control?

Mandy (Iran)Yeah. Or at least not as open that it is now because when I started Why did you You should go back to Iran. You were good. It was too much there. It's too much there. Too much. It's too much there. You need like a happy like a happy meeting.

Mandy (Iran)You want to be somewhere in the middle between a middle but honestly not not going to not going to lie before I moved here. I really was against like that kind of life. And it's

Mandy (Iran)only been like the past like little bit that I realized that's not like what what I want. You know, I used to think everything I'm doing is extremely empowering and great till recently. Um wait, so I need to get up for just a

Brian Atlasmoment. Then we're gonna get into some of the reacts for you. But you said in your messages to us that uh hold on I can pull it up that

Brian Atlasyou wanted to talk about how negative and [ __ ] sex work stripping only fans is. You say this [ __ ] sucks. It does. Um there's quite a few other women here at

Brian Atlasthe table who are involved in that career. Yep. I'm gonna step away for a bit. I'll let you guys have a little convo on that. So yeah. Okay. Enjoy. It's spicy. Okay. I mean, do you like it? Do you really

Lucy (Data)enjoy it? So, I will say as with any job, I don't like every aspect, but I think for women, because we've been sexualized and exploited and subjugated for so long that at least in this one avenue, we can

Lucy (Data)monetize it. And obviously, it's not perfect. Like, it's we're still subject to a lot of injustice and unfair treatment. But at the very least, you get some autonomy because you have some control over the way your image is

Marcelinadistributed and how you choose to profit off your body or your sexuality. Okay. How about you? Do you like it? Um, it's hit or miss, but I feel like with any job like there, like she said,

Marcelinathere's um some aspects you don't like, but some like you do like. I also just like that like we're our own boss and you're more good you're in more control. So like you get to decide more so like and based on how you handle. But like when you're doing it, when

Mandy (Iran)you're actually doing it, when you're recording yourself doing these things, if you really think about it like deeply in your like female natural instincts, do you enjoy it?

MarcelinaUm I feel like there's just like it's so like there's variety to it. So some yes and some no. Okay. Yeah. I love it. Okay. Even when I'm doing it, I love it. Even

Emily (Coach DT250)when you're doing it, you love it. I didn't love stripping, but I do love Only Fans now. So, for the two ladies who enjoy it, what do you think is the most fulfilling part of it for you?

Maddie (Porn)Like either one of you. I just like I don't know if it's necessarily fulfilling, but I like being my boss. I like posting. I like the content I post. I like putting effort into what I make.

Maddie (Porn)Mhm. I try to make videos that I'm really proud of. Like, are you an exhibitionist, you would say? Um, maybe. Not Not really. Okay.

MarcelinaNot not naturally. I just like I like creating content that I'm proud of, even if it's sexual content. Yeah. Like I'm very much myself on like all my platforms and I also just feel

Marcelinalike it's made me more confident and I kind of like struggle with anxiety and like all that [ __ ] but um I don't know. It's just made me like more open-minded. I just think like I'm mentally a healthier individual cuz like we've

Marcelinagotten so much like backlash and just we get a lot of hate and like I don't know like we're all good people but people try to like put their own insecurities on us but at the end of the day it's like we're not harming you. We're doing

Emily (Coach DT250)our job. Like why does it matter what other people do? Yeah. So I have a totally open question for you guys. I'm genuinely curious about your thoughts on this. So, how much have

Emily (Coach DT250)you guys looked into like the impacts of porn on men and how do you think only fans relates to that? And again, open question.

Maddie (Porn)I think anything that you do too much of can have a bad impact on you. And I don't think it's our space to limit what people can and

Maddie (Porn)can't do. So, like in America, we can say whatever we want. We can drink energy drinks. We can smoke cigarettes. Like

Maddie (Porn)everything you do has consequences. And I think if we weren't doing this, men would be finding it elsewhere. I think when you limit people from being able to do what they want and what watch

Josie Marcelinowhat they want, they're going to find it in a more harmful way. It is weird that it's the only addictive thing in our society where we demonize the person who like creates it. Yeah. Like we're not we're not we're not

Maddie (Porn)going to cigarette companies and being like do you see people are dying? We're taking money from the cigarette companies and then letting them like push vapes in schools and [ __ ] Yeah. I mean, there's just there's so

Maddie (Porn)many things that impact men negatively that and I think especially with Only Fans, like it's different than if you're

Maddie (Porn)just watching like mainstream corn, like because they do do some things that I think could be damaging. But if you're watching somebody who's making ethical corn that they're

Maddie (Porn)consenting to, it's not, you know, like, you know, how unethical like the business can be. Mhm. You're not doing as bad as what somebody could be watching.

MarcelinaI also Oh, sorry. I was just going to say I feel like women get like a lot of hate for OAF and then I have a lot of guy friends that do it, but for them it's like hell yeah, brother. Get the bag. Like their guy friendss just like cheer them on. They're like, "Yeah, get the money." Like you do you.

Mandy (Iran)But for us, it's as horrible if not worse. I think that's as horrible if not worse. Men doing it. And it's just sad.

Mandy (Iran)Yeah. I'm just curious like if you don't if you are against sex work then why do you do it? Because it was so well I did it when I was 18. I didn't have enough thought on

Mandy (Iran)my own to like think it's a bad thing and then now at this point I'm like I mean I done it for so long. Everyone knows I think I formed a personality on

Mandy (Iran)this and I think at this point I'm I'm just cooked. So, I just prefer I just prefer at least making the money, but like you know what I mean? Like it's like I would if I could go back and just

Mandy (Iran)like have a better role model of never getting into it. Yeah, I would 100% do that. But at this point, I'm cooked so why not? I'm not cooked. You're not cooked. If you truly if you don't like I'm I'm not going to sit here

Josie Marcelinoand be like you shouldn't do it and it's awful and like no if if you liked it. I would be like yeah keep going. But if you genuinely don't like it, there there are ways like in your life that you can get away from it and and just kind of

Mandy (Iran)start new. Especially if you're not that heavily on social media. Yeah. Like I think Yeah. Don't say you're But it's not like I'm [ __ ] It's because when I go out there and when I'm like when I don't want to do it anymore, even

Mandy (Iran)the men is like kind of ruined. I think both genders are just getting ruined. Everyone's just very far away from their natural instincts. So it's at this point I'm like I rather just make money because men are not even like really as

Josie Marcelinomasculine as I used to be. I think you're just in the wrong place truly like geographically I think maybe Canada. I've been to Canada. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you're going to find your man in Canada. Yeah. That's maybe that is it. But like Yeah. I just

Josie Marcelinogo to go to Boston, baby. Go to New York. Go to a Northeast like Mid-Atlantic. They're going to love you and they're like the [ __ ] bluecollar workers that are going to be like this is my lady and I don't give a [ __ ] what

Josie Marcelinoshe did but if you touch her or look at her I will kill you or sorry on a live view but like that's but yeah like seriously like go to a place where there's bluecollar dudes. They'll get past what's out there and

Mandy (Iran)then you just have a nice time with them. They won't let you do anything. I don't even have a problem with people not really accepting me. I actually have a lot of people that are accepting what I do, but I just don't like I don't

SPEAKER_14know. I just don't think it I just don't really like to I think I'm just cooked at this point. You're not going to say that? No. Did your parents not encourage you to go

Josie Marcelinoto school? Yeah. I moved here with my mom. So, she didn't. She No. No. Does she know that you do Only Fans? Yes. Okay. What does she think? She thinks it's cool. Can I can I

Josie Marcelinorespond to some of these things that I see popping up? Cuz this says we met. No, they're $10. Okay. All right. Never mind. No. All right. And I don't think anything wrong with

Mandy (Iran)that. It's just their opinion. Like I have never mind. I won't say it. It's fine. But um So your mom is okay with it? Yeah. Did she like What was her reaction when

SPEAKER_14you first told her? Did you tell her when you were 18 when you first started it? She didn't care. But you came from Iran, right? Are people there usually more

Mandy (Iran)conservative? Um, not really. No. Iran was not like a Muslim country till like 40, 50 years ago. So, a lot of the families are not actually Muslim or conservative. A lot of them are just forced to follow a rule

Mandy (Iran)that they don't really like none of my friends or like none of my family like no one's really like Muslim. It's just something that is like forced okay upon him. So like no one really actually believes and that's why like even now

Mandy (Iran)when there's a war a lot of them are like as long as the whole thing changes you know. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know anything about Yeah. that

Mandy (Iran)what your mom do to support herself? Um she has a like she had a normal job. What's her normal job? A normal job minimum.

Holly (62)It's a regular job. at the mall. No, just Oh, cuz you you said that you moved to Canada because she was following a man. Yeah.

Mandy (Iran)And then the man vanished. I don't know. Kind of made me sad for your mom. She's fine. She's doing fine. Yeah. Well, it's fine. Good. I bought her a house and a car. She's Oh, good.

Holly (62)Good. Ollie, have you ever done sex work? Well, I'm thinking about it now as a big box. more more than sugar baby money, huh? Yeah, sugar baby is kind of sex work.

Holly (62)It is. I'm teasing her baby in my dreams. You don't think you can do it? Oh, yeah. Well, that's why I posted. I said, you know, let's do uh signups,

Holly (62)boys. Oh, I don't So, did you respond to that message where he was like, I'll give you a $2,000 weekly allowance? Um, no. I took it and I sent it to Brian

Holly (62)and I said, "You want to know what I'm doing right now? Check this out." And then I put it on Facebook to see if I could drum up any biz.

Holly (62)My friends all laughed. God, they had such a good time. It's probably still spinning on Facebook with everybody laughing. Have you had higher offers?

Holly (62)I haven't looked at my Facebook to see. I mean, like ever. Well, that was my first offer. Darn it. And it took me to 62 to get it. God bless.

Holly (62)Why didn't you take them up on that? Well, because I think it's a a sea of players out there. There's a

Holly (62)lot of love bombers. I don't really think they're true. And I mean, it was sweet for him to say that and I appreciate it, but really 2,000 a week

Holly (62)is kind of cheap and I don't really like that. So, it was kind of like a little insult. I get it. I'm older, you know, but whatever.

Holly (62)I don't think sugar babies and sugar daddy relationships are usually for love. I think it's strictly transactional. Yeah. And I didn't get it because I didn't get any contract with it. I didn't see any cash. What's up with

Emily (Coach DT250)that? Is a scam. That's why. So, to pivot, I have a question for all the ladies here. If you want to continue talking about this, we totally can. Um, but I really would like to hear your guys'

Holly (62)thoughts on the male loneliness epidemic. Y there's a lot of there's a I well I

Holly (62)know there's a lot of guys that are lonely and man Facebook is covered with it and if they could just dial it back a little bit you know I mean it's like

Holly (62)look can we have a conversation here don't do the love bombing okay because it's a major red flag you know we don't trust you know but if you could be civil

Emily (Coach DT250)and normal we could talk and maybe something can happen, you know. Mhm. What does that mean, the male loneliness epidemic? So, I haven't researched too far into

Emily (Coach DT250)it, but the from what I've heard, some of the statistics behind it is that men now more than ever are more depressed, um more um feeling isolated, feeling disconnected from partners. And there's

Emily (Coach DT250)a lot of different theories on why this is happening. One of the ones that I think might be true is that right now the meaning of relationships is shifting for men and women. Like meaning that now

Emily (Coach DT250)with the female empowerment movement more women women are outperforming at work, women are outperforming at home and yes there's a lot of burnout and exhaustion with that. Um but also like

Emily (Coach DT250)you know we're coming from a a different place now where women are not entirely reliant on men like you know we can have our own bank accounts we can have our own jobs etc etc etc and so now women

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