04:41:52Brena/Paula/Alexisdating apps and go through and just swipe on girls with no purpose or intention of having a conversation with them in actuality something that women do yeah I was about to say men probably
04:42:04Brena/Paula/Alexisdo that but women do that way more women do that just for the attention he likes me he likes me he likes me no but I'm not saying like being selective I'm saying just like ripping through
04:42:14Jakeand like like not even looking like not even looking not spe like I think generally ugly guys will do that who oh actually like guys who like don't really get many matches but um or
04:42:27Brena/Paula/Alexisthey could it could just be any guy who just wants to get as many matches as possible gets Tinder premium and just and just does what if they don't even get Tinder premium and then they don't even have have a conversation and then just delete the app as if it's like a
04:42:39Jakegame for them or something maybe they're I've heard of people maybe they're looking to see I've heard of people doing it and getting matches like just so they get quick matches yeah but uh
04:42:50Brian Atlasnot not not talking I think I think part of it is probably because uh most women swipe no on most men so like it's a waste for a guy to spend like 30 seconds
04:43:02Brian Atlasto review the profile like the The Meta for the dudes is just swipe on everybody and then of the matches you do get you see who see who will
04:43:13Brian Atlasrespond yeah because like women are the selective ones on the dating apps like they'll swipe no on most people and swipe on the ones they want whereas men will swipe pretty much on everything otherwise it's a waste of time for the men so is this basically like kind of
04:43:26Brian Atlasplaying Russian roulette just swipe through everybody and see who kind of like responds back to you and then take yeah you swipe on everybody and then and then you sort then you can sort through
04:43:36Brian Atlasthe ones whether you message them or not uh but I think this has an impact maybe it didn't used to but probably has an impact on the algorithm if you're swiping on everybody you're going to get
04:43:46Brian Atlasdranked and you're going to be shown to less women or I I'm not familiar with the dating app algorithms anymore but this was a strategy a long time ago men just swipe on everyone but now it's
04:43:57Brian Atlasprobably changed a little bit but it's just for pure Simplicity you swipe on everybody you let the women be the select the selectors when it comes to matching then from there on you message
04:44:09Brena/Paula/Alexiswho you want to message right but in most cases aren't women the one that are initiating the conversation anyway they're not usually the ones okay so then how does that even work because
04:44:18Brena/Paula/Alexiseven if guys are swiping on them then the woman has to see that like and respond to it but in most cases even if a woman were to match with a man she's not going to initiate that first
04:44:32Brian Atlasconversation I guess it depends on the dating app but if as far as I recall uh the match occurs and then it just sits there in the match queue and then the woman could message first but typically
04:44:44Brian Atlasthe man's going to message apps do you do Brian I'm not I'm not on any dating apps right now but I used I was on Tinder hinge Bumble why are you no longer on dating apps uh well I got
04:44:56Brian Atlasfunny story I got banned on every single one of them because I was using it to procure
04:45:04Brian Atlasguests for the show oh God which is not allowed so uh in the same way that like who girls who are trying to promote their only fans or Instagram uh they'll usually get banned on the apps I was
04:45:16Brian Atlasessentially not using the dating app for its intended purpose but even though you went on dates from app from their app oh yeah I've been on dates from all the app well they should have taken that in
04:45:27Brian Atlasconsideration well they're pretty a rule is a rule sorry there is no black and there is no gray it's black and white I don't think they investigate too much they're just like are they breaking the rule yes okay B doesn't like a a is it
04:45:39Lindsyhinger one of them isn't there like a one where it's for like friends or like businesses or something Bumble gives you like a friends option if you want to do like if you want to become just like girls want to find girlfriends you can
04:45:51Lindsaydo a there's a website or there's a like it's styled like a dating app but in the music industry where it says like you swipe and it's you could get roles or it's also like to find friends and stuff they have it for everything just like
04:46:03Brena/Paula/Alexisthe swiping cuz the everyone's lazy nowadays it's easy just [ __ ] let's see um Paula you do dog training right I how long you been doing dog training before uh a long time I started when I
04:46:15Brian Atlaswas a teenager when I was around 14 or 15 does any of the dog training stuff translate to dating for you like do I can I train men because I can exactly
04:46:26Brena/Paula/Alexisthat's exactly what them I wish I could say that it did but it does not no transation and I do pretty like intense dog training I don't know if you guys look through my social media but I do
04:46:37Brena/Paula/Alexisyeah I used to train some police um dogs and I do a lot of personal protection dogs and my my personal dogs do personal protection training so do you see your vide I saw some yeah can you train like
04:46:48Brena/Paula/Alexisa chihuahua to be can protection no no they're not genetically made for that they can't do it what do you think about pull yay or n uh I like PES I think that are they protection dogs or not um it
04:46:59Brena/Paula/Alexisdepends on the lines it depends where the dogs come from it depends on their lineage it's it's very similar to like do you do positive reinforcement or negative reinforcement or both uh I do balance training which is a mixture of
04:47:13Brena/Paula/Alexisboth yeah did you do any like shot collar stuff or I my dog it's not a shot collar it's an e-collar um um so it's a little bit different but yes I do ecoll or train dogs I don't do it for all of
04:47:23Brian Atlasthem I'm very okay with my clients not wanting to use it um but I do use them on my on my personal dogs uh you said that uh let's see you had a guy that
04:47:35Brena/Paula/Alexiswent a little hardcore on the first date it was rather uncomfortable yeah so this guy um I I I met him organically um because I have
04:47:47Brena/Paula/Alexistried dating apps before and it just is not my thing um so we went on a date I
04:47:54Brena/Paula/Alexisshowed up he rented a SUV M um a very expensive one and we
04:48:03Brena/Paula/Alexiswent on a date went to a super high-end restaurant went to drinks at a like a bunch of super high and bars it just seemed very extreme to me kind of like how you had said like I don't need like
04:48:16Brena/Paula/Alexisoverthe toop it doesn't need to be like a huge production I'm not saying that I don't appreciate a guy taking me out for a nice dinner but for a first date I do think there is something as going a little too much as if you're trying to
04:48:27Brena/Paula/Alexislike flop money or love bomb or love bombing yes and in in an attempt to the the wrap up of this story is he
04:48:39Brena/Paula/Alexiswanted me to come to his apartment at the end of the date which I do not do um I'm not going to go into a man's house apartment after a first date I'm not
04:48:49Brena/Paula/Alexishooking up with a guy on a first date that's just not um my my dating style so when you have this super elaborate planned date and then at the end of the
04:48:59Brena/Paula/Alexisnight you get invited up to a man's apartment I feel like there is there was a a negative intent behind the date in the first place as if because he spent so much much money
04:49:11Brena/Paula/Alexisthere is an expectation that you're going to go home with that person and have sex with them I mean that's that was my kind of um
04:49:22Brena/Paula/Alexismhm evaluation of that situation I could be wrong I could be a little bit harsh but I don't think you're wrong for your feelings about it I mean that's the way
04:49:33Brian Atlasyou feel and then uh you also similar to your friend here disagree with fully committing to singularly dating someone after first date I'm not committing to someone unless I get to know them but
04:49:44Brena/Paula/AlexisI'm also very open about that whenever I go out on a date with a new man I don't know if you had any so I think that it's a little premature on like a second date
04:49:54Brena/Paula/Alexisto be like I'm not going out on a date with somebody else I think that from and and I don't go I don't go out on dates
04:50:03Brena/Paula/Alexisvery often um but after a second date it's very hard to know if you actually like a person enough to go on that third
04:50:13Brena/Paula/Alexisdate with them I've known several people who have given somebody chance after a chance to kind of get to know them more and then after like the third or fourth date it usually falls apart so yeah I think there's a little bit more of like
04:50:25Brena/Paula/Alexisa vetting process that needs to happen unless you're going on dates like the first and second dates are like four to 6 hours long I think it's very difficult to get to know somebody in two dates now
04:50:37TTS Readerdoes that mean that I would go ha and well met no lol paladins donated $200 and2 that's why it's important to invite the girls into your apartment before the
04:50:49TTS Readerfirst date see if she is DTF first before you waste your money I think you can hook up quickly right but this is this is
04:51:00Brena/Paula/Alexisexactly the point is like well it's fine okay go ahead though this is that's this is exactly why I don't dat oh cuz because cuz L pal
04:51:11Brena/Paula/Alexisno because of that comment like if there is just an expectation to have sex like do can I pay for my own dinner absolutely am I going to date a man that's not going to
04:51:23Brena/Paula/Alexispay for my dinner no but if there is an expectation immediately on the first date to have sex I would rather not go on the date and cancel it now here's what's going to really bamboozle you
04:51:33Brian Atlasguys oh God so I actually don't have any objections to having sex immediately I wouldn't think that you would I don't know oh okay all right I thought that would be a Bamboozled like oh he
04:51:46Brian Atlasdoesn't want to have like sex uh he doesn't want to you make that very clear he does okay well um in any case well I
04:51:54Brian Atlasthink my my other big objection here is if if she's had sex quickly before then I'm going to feel a type of way if she's like We're going to wait 3 months for
04:52:05Brian Atlasyou buddy 3 months is a little excessive I mean we're all adults one month dates I'm just going to be like well okay you got one standard for all the guys in the past but now so what is
04:52:18Brian Atlasyour what's your what's your cut off like what do you mean like what at what date would you be at like like you said that it you said that it was okay if you had
04:52:29Lindsysex you know how long would you wait before like it would have to be a really serious conversation if you liked her if you liked her enough and then she was holding out on you at what point would
04:52:40Brian Atlasyou be like all right we're either having sex or I'm out and I'm going to Goa it's not so much how much I like her it's more so her past conduct so if she's a virgin she gets more leeway if
04:52:52Brian Atlasshe has a low body count one two three and all her ex-boyfriends she made them wait she gets more leeway but if she's had sex with men before quickly and now
04:53:05Brian Atlasyou want to make me wait a month two months 3 months get the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of here bro it has nothing to do with your values so I'm just not interested but how would you even know
04:53:16Brena/Paula/Alexisall of this information I feel like this is a lot of oversharing ask her yeah I don't know who these [ __ ] women are yeah some of these women are really stupid that they're
04:53:27Lindsyeven so that I I would hope the women were honest so if you didn't know that inform they're going to lie you're saying women should lie women should lie about Brian if you didn't know that information though oh I'm going to know
04:53:38Lindsytrust me I'm to you didn't we're saying so I'm asking you I'm asking you a question that is completely surface level you don't know anything we're not going to put in Wool if she's this this
04:53:48Lindsyand this if you don't know what would be your max on waiting wait but there's no scenario where I'm not going to like [ __ ] hail and well met L Paladin
04:53:59TTS Readerdonated $22 can she pay for her food yes can I pay for her food yes but are you dating someone to see if they are Pleasant
04:54:10TTS Readerconversationalists over dinner my time is too valuable for that come over or GTFO well put exactly because the amount of times
04:54:21Brena/Paula/Alexisthat women have gone on a date with a man whose only intent is to just have sex with her on the first day and then they get ghosted immediately afterwards that's exactly why that just
04:54:33Lindsydoes not work for women so what what's the question okay I'm ready without your like stipulations or anything thing mhm what would be the absolute longest you
04:54:44Lindsywould wait for someone you like a lot before you would be
04:54:51Brian Atlaslike okay like drop your panties or get out Jes it's an interesting way to put it but uh I don't think i' train it like
04:55:01Brian Atlasthat for like five hours I'm starting to get honry but uh well I mean there's no situation where I would not do like a vetting of the girls so I would assuming
04:55:12Brena/Paula/Alexisshe's telling the truth I would know so what are you going to do through her social media and see if like any I would just be super direct with her right hoping that she's being honest right while women lie is that what you're
04:55:24Chrisgoing to say look at what happened in this program today I mean yeah I don't date uh o chicks I'm just saying that women can be
04:55:35Lindsyconvincing is all I'm saying you mean women can lie yes you difference between a Li and a mission of the truth we we answer even if we have
04:55:45Lindsyto answer but we can't fully relate so I just wanted to know what your max feel is um if you had to choose so she's saying so she's claiming to be a virgin
04:55:56Lindsybut she's not no it's just we're going to say okay girl you went on a date with or you've been going a couple dates on or whatever you guys haven't done the deed yet you haven't had the
04:56:08Lindsyconversation yes you may not EX exactly do that personally when would you when would you give kind of like an ultimatum if I know she's had sex before yeah sure how many
04:56:21Brian Atlasmaybe it was a mix bag maybe it was a mix bag we're just going we're not going see you're you're bringing it into detail I know but there's no scenario where I'm going to be considering a girl without properly vetting her and by
04:56:32Lindsyvetting her I mean what's her sexual history what it's it's within the realm of your normal body count her her body account is okay she checks all your
04:56:42Lindsyboxes whatever this is how you know it's funny because the questions that are the hard questions that like you ask or Brian or I'm sorry or Andrew ask this is
04:56:54Brena/Paula/Alexislike what what you're doing right now is I seen you're avoiding you're avoiding a direct answer because you're trying to get more information out of us and make
04:57:03Brian Atlasit more complicated than the actual he's doing he's fighting his own game it's okay I mean I just don't think it's a
04:57:14Brian Atlashypothetical hold on hold on answer the question it's a hypothetical it's just like well Brian how long would you wait for a prostitute I wouldn't date a prostitute but that's not what the
04:57:25Brian Atlasquestion was I know I know but guess what Brian I'm say how would you rate yourself well I don't rate myself but I'm saying in all instances I would have a conversation with the girl so there's not a scenario we don't need the
04:57:37Brian Atlasstoryline Brian there's not a scenario Brian sure I'll okay just to be okay I'll give you a simple answer three to four dates okay all right three to four dates all I
04:57:47Lindsyneeded Brian was an answer as soon as I start taking her seriously yeah yeah you would you would be like okay like when would it happen as soon as I started taking her seriously as soon as could be
04:57:59Jakeafter one date could be after two could be after five i' say it' probably be at least two dates okay but when I was like this is somebody I could take seriously you don't have a completely clean sexual record if you did if she's a vir and I'm
04:58:10Jakehappy to wait as long as she wants to but marri yeah I'd be do that and then but the marriage would happen pretty quickly though I wouldn't be waiting too long so you would marry a virgin very
04:58:21Chrisquickly yeah yeah if if I knew that you know that she was legit oh my God are you going to get her examined like they did in the old days I was just going to ask that or you or do you just take
04:58:33Jaketheir word for it oh gosh no I think the har can break if you're like riding a horse kind of that's what actually what happened to me I hope that they're telling the truth the
04:58:42TTS Readeron this one yeah random thank you for answering my question sure but not go down
04:58:52TTS Readerhis but L paladins donated $22 according to style mystery method ancient wisdom from Old School pre pill
04:59:03TTS Readerdays the ideal answer is 10 hours spread out over at least two locations but total date number is irrelevant that's it's a good um love paladins thank you
04:59:15Brian Atlasman yeah I'd say I mean three to four dates but if for example I and I've I've been in this situation where I uh I was dating a girl and she's like yeah I had
04:59:28Brian Atlasa couple I've had hookups I've hooked up with a guy quickly whatever had a couple relationships so we're looking at body count like around 10 maybe more than 10
04:59:38Brian Atlasand they're like well I want to wait now and that's fine you can do that but I can also feel like yeah that's kind of a raw deal don't want to really talk to you anymore
04:59:51Brian Atlasgoodbye yeah uh it's like what G cuz you're like you're basically trying to leverage sex and whenever you a girl is leveraging sex that's not really I mean the more
05:00:04Jakegames that are played the more you're just setting yourself up for a toxic relation it's a total game it's a total game and sometimes girls like doing that like they enjoy leading you on like that and if I that those are not women that are ready to get married further down in
05:00:17Jakethe relationship you said girls not women that's the main difference well I mean I always say I think it's an Australian thing we say girls when we're talking about like basically girls I'm like that I people always call me out call me out that but anyways I think
05:00:29Jakethat um if you if you see that then when you're married they're going to try and leverage it for chores and they're going to try and leverage it for absolutely everything I think it's fun to have a little banter but not like when you're married little bit a little bit of cat
05:00:42Brian Atlasand mouse no spiders yeah I mean I just think that uh it's going to set you up for failure later like okay you're Now
05:00:51Brian Atlasusing sex as leverage you don't have any like religious uh justification for withholding sex in your past you've had sex relatively quickly so you have no like moral objections to sleeping with
05:01:03Brian Atlaspeople quickly you just think this is what is I need to do or is what ought to be done or what I'm supposed to do in in order to get commitment from this man and then like how are you going to leverage that in the future to get
05:01:14Brian Atlascompliance from me in some sort of way if I'm dating I'm in my mid-30s if I'm dating a woman in her 30s it's like okay we've had we've probably both had multiple relationships we've probably had a couple short-term things here and
05:01:27Brian Atlasthere we've we've both had sex we're not virgins like okay what's the point in waiting at this point it's one thing if like she's a virgin or whatever or low body count it's always been her standard
05:01:38Brian Atlasbut for most women not case they've had flings they've had whatever so um if you like me I like you I don't actually unless you have some New Found You Found Jesus whatever uh you want to wait until
05:01:51Lindsymarriage that's another conversation I still wouldn't date you then but uh but I mean uh I appreciate you answering the question the way that I
05:02:02Chrisasked it after a little bit of coaxing Brian I do have a a question though there's there's some there some guys who will say all right if you're not a
05:02:12Chrisvirgin mhm like this is the extreme part if you're not a virgin then you should let me get it because you gave it to somebody why do I have to wait and I think that that's kind of I mean that's
05:02:24Chrisan extreme thing but it's like can't people say I'm going down a wrong path I mean isn't that what
05:02:33ChrisRedemption is all about I'm going down a wrong path and I want to change I like this is not working for me and I want to do something different and for a
05:02:44Jakeman to say oh no that's not fair you gave it to him you got to give it to me depends if you're talking about casual dating or if you're talking about more more serious dating because if you're talking about casual dating they go on on a on a date or two and then he just
05:02:58Jakeexpects it then yeah fair enough you don't have to but uh with with with more serious dating it's like if you've had sex with 50 guys and then you try and make him wait for 3 months that that means that he he has to pay the ultimate
05:03:10Chrisprice for it whereas so many people got it for free yeah I mentioned like a just a virgin like she's not a virgin so we don't know what the body count is but like um so if you're not a virgin then I
05:03:22Jakeshould be able to get it I think Brian makes a good point when he says that you have that conversation with girls because it varies from from girl to girl like if you if if she's just had relationships and they've been a Ser a number of years and they haven't worked
05:03:35Jakeout and a couple relationships but she hasn't really slept around then that's a different thing maybe she's she's someone who likes to have sex in the context of a relationship and that's very different but if she had her HOAs and she slept with a bunch of guys and
05:03:47Brena/Paula/Alexisactually trying to make you wait then you can't have your cake and eat it you give away the ticket it's gone I don't fully agree with that either because I
05:03:57Brena/Paula/Alexisthink that you can just have like a total change in like like okay so before when tell her to speak into them oh sorry um my husband and I when we were first dating we hooked up I hooked up as
05:04:09Brena/Paula/Alexissoon as he wanted to hook up and then when we took a little break and then when we got back to dating again I just told him like implicitly like I want the
05:04:20Brena/Paula/Alexisnext and the last person that I'm with to be the person that I marry um and he didn't believe in marriage so it took
05:04:28Brena/Paula/Alexislike a few weeks but I'm just saying like it wasn't about trying to co him it wasn't about like trying to um have leverage it was just like I
05:04:40Brena/Paula/Alexisknow that I don't want to be with somebody anymore unless that's the last person that I'm going to be with and thankfully that worked out but wait so did you not have sex with him until you
05:04:51Brena/Paula/Alexisguys got married no I did like 3 weeks in but I I told him like I want to marry you I don't want to be with anybody else
05:05:01Brena/Paula/Alexisand he didn't believe like you he was very um very monogamous very totally just didn't believe in marriage in like the government sense and then um yeah
05:05:11Brian Atlasafter like 3 years he just married me because I uh I have I have a personal anecdote kind of on this um I've encountered this with quite a few women
05:05:22Brian Atlasand it usually I honestly just stop pursuing them uh I was on the datay with this woman she told me uh the last guy I have my notes here the last guy she had hooked up with was her Airbnb host she
05:05:34Brian Atlasdidn't know him what she didn't know him she had just met him she arrives at the house they start chatting and they hook up within one hour of meeting with me
05:05:45Brian Atlasthough uh she's a bit little a little not so warm to me a little cold she wants to wait and insist we go out on dinner dates uh needless to say after
05:05:56Brian Atlasthat first date with her I did not pursue her past the first date uh so she by doing this remember this is the last guy she hooked up with [ __ ] him within an hour of meeting was already kind of
05:06:10Lindsyturned off by that a little bit you already went on a date with her so we we just we met up for coffee okay this was a couple years ago and she told me she told was did wa she just like flat like
05:06:23Brian Atlasshe's like oh yeah casually no I mean I asked her I was like so tell me about the last guy you dated or whatever she ended up dating him for a bit but she like went she had a a air Airbnb in some
05:06:34Brian AtlasCity goes over gets the keys or whatever he starts flirting with her and they [ __ ] within an hour and then I'm like okay I kind of see what the picture is right and
05:06:46Brian Atlasso now I would not now I'm kind of like I'd be turned off by that but this is uh a couple years ago so I was like okay I was like so we're we're out for coffee I'm like you want to come back to my
05:06:57Brian Atlasplace she's like she was like offended she was offended she's like uh I'd rather like go out to dinner a couple more times I'm like get the [ __ ] out of
05:07:07Brian Atlasyou told me you literally told me that you [ __ ] a guy within an hour of meeting him and you want me to take you on three four [ __ ] dinner dates are you out or your look women can change up
05:07:20Brena/Paula/Alexismen are not owed sex but I'm allowed to be like eh Raw Deal I'm out yeah well she probably liked the other guy cuz he looked attractive to her immediately and she probably liked you for other
05:07:33Brena/Paula/Alexisreasons now you're sassy because I called you out l no I'm just saying there there was obviously more to you she wanted to get to know you for something besides love so so she rewards
05:07:43Brian Atlasthe [ __ ] boys and the guys the guys who she's desirous of being in the long-term relationship you make the guy who's the most deserving of it's the story of women you make the
05:07:55Brian Atlasguy yeah I mean it's Absolut always plays out so the guy who's most deser who's most deserving of the sex he has to wait for the sex but the guys who are jerks [ __ ] boys [ __ ] they get it
05:08:06Brian Atlasimmediately make it make sense what made the hot air B&B guy an [ __ ] oh I don't know but she [ __ ] him quickly but I mean that's what you're saying she she he was more attractive
05:08:18Brena/Paula/Alexiswhatever she didn't see long-term potential in him but you're saying she saw more in me and so she wants to make me wait so but that's different though than being like whether whether you want
05:08:30Brena/Paula/Alexisto marry me or not I know that I don't want to be with anybody else so I'm going to wait a little bit and make sure and you know it's just weird because you like y'all
05:08:41Brian Atlaswill reward the [ __ ] boys who will never give you commitment with immediate sex and then you punish the guys worthy of a relationship by making them wait weeks
05:08:52Lindsymonths or even until marriage like make it make sense it definitely is back backwards but I do not not but but
05:09:01Evaperiod I think that modern day dating is is very bad is is absolutely terrible ask you something what's up do you think
05:09:15Brian Atlasit's that they're trying to put up a facade of being like a like a datable Woman by not giving it up to you really quickly that's uh yeah that's probably a component of it you were trying to say
05:09:25Evasomething right yeah do you have hold on do you have more no I was just asking if like that would be a possibility in your mind cuz I think that that might be an explanation not that it's a good one but
05:09:37AthenaI think would be manipulation tactic maybe uh so they're trying to give the impression that they're well I have something on this but go ahead sound I I think that if a woman lies to a man then
05:09:49Athenashe does not respect him and if she doesn't respect you it's not going to work period so even if that was her reasoning it's like you cut her off right away good point
05:09:59Brian Atlasyeah um it's uh I'm trying to think on that I mean so it's kind of basically fraud so the
05:10:11Brian Atlaswhole point of a woman having a waiting period before she has sex is supposed to be due to her not being someone that gives away sex so easily so having a man
05:10:21Brian Atlaswait uh implies that I'm not easy to get into bed uh but it kind of just means I'm going to make you wait an arbitrary amount of time because I want to give
05:10:32Brian Atlasyou the impression that I'm not quick to give out sex but in reality I am just not for you so and women will actually do this some
05:10:43Brian Atlaswomen not all the women they'll be sleeping with a guy who's a Friends with Benefits all the while simultaneously pursuing a guy for long-term commitment
05:10:55Brian Atlasmaking him weight withholding from him while [ __ ] uh we have something on this that there was like a really interesting Reddit post that came let me see if I can find it but um that's like
05:11:05Brena/Paula/Alexisextremely disrespectful to the man though I'm trying to see I can find it wait that's just not the reason though that why all women change their
05:11:16Brian Atlasperspective on that and make a guy or whatever wait Austin I'm going to put in the in the private chat if you want to get it pulled up for us thank you Austin uh this is we're going to react to this
05:11:28Brian Atlasthen we're going to move on to H another topic and then we'll do twitch after this one okay Austin we'll pull it up super quick guys like the video like the video if you can guys we need to uh helps with
05:11:41Brian Atlasthe algorithm or something right Jake does it help with the algorithm I'm on that that's what they say uh oh can you so sorry okay hold on uh can you like rightclick that
05:11:51Brian Atlascan you do open in new tab yeah I I don't want it within the Dropbox if possible and then f11
05:12:00Evait okay uh can I have you read this one I'm unsure if I should tell my boyfriend this information question mark I've recently gone official with the man I've been dating for a couple months
05:12:12Evahe's kind respectful and considerate and I really think he could be the one but something is eating at me I wanted to build slowly with this man so he didn't become intimate until after going exclusive but between the first date and
05:12:23Evathat point I did see an old friends with benefits a couple of times back then I didn't think anything of it as I wasn't exclusive but I UND underestimated how much I would care for my boyfriend and I feel almost like I have
05:12:36Evacheated on him have I done something wrong do I need to tell him will he end things with me you can read the update part yeah um the update was there was mixed reactions here but my gut told me that I should
05:12:48Evatell my boyfriend he said sorry I don't want it to be don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does that then blocked me on everything it's dealing with the consequences He's a brave and a decent man he's a
05:13:03LindsayPioneer um w i i have an answer or a response to that go ahead I think that everyone has different morals of what they think are right and wrong and if something in your gut says something's
05:13:15Lindsaywrong then you should say something you know if it felt like a lie and like she cheated then it's great to have the dialogue with that even if it ended bad then what she's waiting in this
05:13:26Jakerelationship and not say anything but I think it's more to the point of like what you said before is actually very accurate that if if she doesn't respect you then like a woman would never do that to a man that she respected would
05:13:38Jakemake him waight while going and getting right that's what I mean by BL out by some by some Chad like if she respected him and she thought of him as you know what I meant by she was saying is this wrong or right and I was like if it
05:13:51Lindsayfeels wrong in her gut then she was right to tell him yes yeah she respected him enough to deal with the consequences of telling him the truth and he respected himself Austin can you pull up twitch for us do we have
05:14:03Brian Atlasother reacts too by the way or I feel like we might have had some stuff okay guys go to Twitch tv/ whatever drops a follow in the prime sub guys there's uh 1,600 of you watching on Twitch if
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05:14:38Brian AtlasDiscord discord.gg if you can pull that up go to the behind the scenes tab discord.gg whatever and guys we posted the
05:14:47Brian AtlasBTS of the girl that we had to kick out uh on Tuesday she's being obnoxious uh wild kick out this girl was just terrible troll but she was trolling
05:15:00Brian Atlasnonetheless so if you want to see it check it out it's in the Discord appreciate it guys okay uh let's see let's get into what or what was some of the reacts Austin tell me what we uh what we have
05:15:16Producer (Austin)so we have the men's rating guide women's R guide and then have this Instagram mm another tattoo
05:15:28Brian Atlasanother Instagram TW another tattoo thing what's the other tattoo thing a picture of a girl with a tattoo oh
05:15:40Brian AtlasSLE she's I think she's like wearing a brown light brown shirt a white oh okay let's do the uh the two tweets
05:15:50Brian Atlashere from Bren Bren BR the hottest thing a man can do is be a little scared of me what's the
05:16:00Brena/Paula/Alexisexplanation here uh I'm just I have a lot of humor on my Twitter I'm very dry humor kind of person so I was M probably just making a joke
05:16:12Brian Atlasmhm uh okay what's the next there's just one other tweet right going to sit next to the richest looking middle-aged man on my flight and scroll through my nudes for 3 hours wait I thought you didn't
05:16:24Brian Atlashave nudes I told you I do have implied nudes implied what's implied and also dick sucking and other stuff but you're not going to admit to the dick sucking but it's
05:16:34Brena/Paula/Alexisokay you're a [ __ ] liar you're a [ __ ] liar disappointing um what's implied nudes versus normal nudes I'm just curious I like to differentiate it because I think
05:16:45Brena/Paula/Alexisa lot of people think of only fans nudity like straight up like spreading your legs to the camera and I do some content where it it's like allowed on
05:16:57Brena/Paula/AlexisInstagram type content like nothing you have a sheer kind of sheet you put over the yeah like stuff like stuff like that like stuff that you would see on uh
05:17:09Brian AtlasAustin private chat this is I can pull this up all right go ahead private chat I'm pretty sure let me just double check that that's double check and make sure it's
05:17:20Brian Atlasokay is it okay it's just the tattoos right all right pull it up real quick uh
05:17:28Brian Atlasokay Brana is this you is this your tattoo looks like my tattoo yeah okay so we can't show the video because we're on YouTube and twitch you already talked
05:17:39Brian Atlasabout how the tattoo matched in this video which we had to censor you are
05:17:47Brian Atlasfting an individual someone male a male penis and you
05:18:00Brian Atlasare he's blasting in your mouth that's I said it oh blasting in the mouth Brena do you want to just fess the [ __ ] up and stop being a you're a [ __ ] liar [ __ ]
05:18:12Jakeliar we might have to go through the subtle nuances of the tattoo my God bro if we can pull it up and look at the L okay you can I can I can definitely confirm now that didn't happen after
05:18:23Brian Atlasthat DET can she come around and watch the can you walk over here and I can pull up the video video these little I would really like I don't I'm not really like comfortable with that okay you know
05:18:34Brena/Paula/Alexiswhat I was I was rooting for you girl I was I mean can I look at the video and confirm if it's her or not yeah come over here come over here I just need to know now turn around again
05:18:45Brena/Paula/Alexislet me see if I kidding actually let me see if I can uh find it here I feel like M's perspective sometimes is a littleit like jaded I
05:18:56Brena/Paula/Alexisdon't really care I believe you I'm very GL I've been told but I do like I'm going to trust I I honestly don't care like if y'all believe me or
05:19:07Chrisnot anything that's really annoying probably heaps ands of guys running over to your only fans right now subscrib grind yeah that's the effect
05:19:16Athenathat it'll have yeah I think way I don't think this is encouraging that well I I I don't know and I'm not going to watch it cuz I don't want to I mean I'm
05:19:27Brena/Paula/Alexisdefinitely going to look into this like a lot after the podcast to see if there really is something like that out there it wouldn't be to my knowledge and I've never knowingly recorded something like
05:19:39Brena/Paula/Alexisthat but I mean if you're I mean it's just a simple thing you could just peep over there and say nope that's not me girl like if if it was like do you know how traumatizing that would be to me I don't want to like sit here and on a
05:19:51Brena/Paula/Alexispodcast and like realize something like that could have happened to me and then have oh so you're saying that it could have happened and you didn't know then that's I don't think so I really don't think so but I don't I wouldn't want to
05:20:02Chrissee myself like that if somebody like that's something different if that's something if you didn't know then you know I think you should still want to know because that's a crime I will look after the podcast I don't want to like sit here and feel like all right I
05:20:15Brian Atlasshowed I showed her the video what's the census what's the census she's going to get
05:20:22Brian Atlasin uh so we got we got uh expert witness here why are you lying it's you in the
05:20:31Brena/Paula/Alexisvideo W say it again say it again it's you in the video 100% eyebrows youy nose hands I mean I I was an analyst in the
05:20:43Brena/Paula/Alexismilitary I look at people's physical features lawyer all the time um she she she analyzed tattoo everything so it's there it's it could not be unless you
05:20:54Lindsyhave a doppelganger twin somewhere but is it is it filmed as if she knows it's being filmed like it's film from a downward angle of a man does it have
05:21:05Jakelike the UN ad the only fan it has a watermark and she said it was her [ __ ] it was the watermark is
05:21:15Brian Atlasthe watermark is tough I don't get it I don't you my my Watermark though that would be such an elaborate I you said the names don't match no no I asked you if it was your watermark and you said
05:21:27Brena/Paula/Alexisyes no it's not my Watermark my my only Fan's name is Rene Richards you said it had said you changed it yeah heard you Brink right Brinkley or whatever it is yeah you did say that you said you said
05:21:39Brena/Paula/Alexisyes it was no I did have that name for a time just say you had it already just [ __ ] fess up why you [ __ ] if she fesses up can we leave it right there no one comment if she fesses up how about
05:21:50Brena/Paula/Alexisthat if she fesses up can we leave it there giant L well it's it's different when a male is evaluating a video because you guys are not really the greatest at being able to like tell facial features like you can show two
05:22:02Brena/Paula/Alexisdifferent women and they could just assume that it was the same person but I'm pretty good at being able to discern you have she was in the military for crying out you have a very distinguishable nose you have very
05:22:14TTS Readerdisting distinguish very distinguishable nose facial you know what was right next to your
05:22:20TTS Readernose penis Paladin $22 look that's a marine she knows a lotu a marine wouldn't lie especially
05:22:33Brena/Paula/Alexisabout something that important that important is I actually didn't even look at the penis I literally didn't even look at the penis talked about herse
05:22:43Brena/Paula/Alexisjust looking at her face the tatto her fingernails and the tattoo but if you ever saw that penis you'd be able to recognize it exactly whose penis is I have no idea we've got this is the
05:22:54Brena/Paula/Alexis[ __ ] CIA right here bro we've got you [ __ ] CIA figured out bro I mean it is scaring the [ __ ] out of me I hope I don't find out there's something out there like that my friend is only fans
05:23:05Lindsayyou can't just get [ __ ] posted on your account that you okay I can't waste more time on this but you're you're a [ __ ] liar you're a [ __ ] liar all right uh Alexis I'm 33 married with four kids
05:23:18Brian Atlasstay at home mom homeschooling working full-time from home extremely traditional conservative and spiritual religious but what but 13 years ago I was a bikini
05:23:30Brian Atlasbarista calender girl and I ended up going into deep into addiction and years ago I was a high-end escort o c to say that sinner wait that wasn't no oh that
05:23:42Brena/Paula/Alexissounded really biased considering you came at me for that earlier about Christian values did you hear what I said about morally bankrupting yourself
05:23:50Brena/Paula/Alexisyou were an escort shut up she's changed she acknowledged that it's okay no she said she didn't want it set on the podcast but Brian just said okay but do you think that sounds like a hypocrite I
05:24:03Athenafeel like you're just mad you weren't honest up front I'm mad because you talk to relig would not judge you being not not you just anyone do you think God would judge an
05:24:14Athenaescort yes so you're not justifying the sin no I was a that's the difference that's the difference is you're not
05:24:24Brena/Paula/Alexisjustifying it versus someone else who is justif that's the whole point of the Bible Redemption no go ahead keep going sorry Redemption and salvation and as
05:24:36Evasomeone in recovery I hear that it's different I've done so many weird things you know it's about not continuing a harmful pattern which I think you're actively contributing towards continuing a harmful pattern whereas this girl
05:24:48Brena/Paula/Alexisacross the table has like learned from it and Found Jesus and yeah and and changed yeah whether whatever you did I still believe you can be a Christian so I don't agree with your views that God
05:25:00Brena/Paula/Alexisdoesn't accept people who do certain things so I'm just saying your don't think that has anything to do with being saved I think that there's a difference though between living as a Christian and
05:25:12Brena/Paula/Alexisdoing those type that type of thing and like here's the thing there's a difference because because like I said I did say right here that you can do
05:25:22Brena/Paula/Alexissomething transactional and make a lot of money off of it and get you know and physically live a certain type of lifestyle and you are morally bankrupting yourself I said that and I
05:25:34Brena/Paula/Alexismean come on anybody can infer what do transactional mean and that was a very brief period of my life and I was very uncomfortable and in a bad place when I
05:25:45Athenadid it um I don't think it's right I would don't think you're not justifying it and here's the thing okay if we look at the Bible Mary Magdalene right she was a prostitute she stopped what she
05:25:56Athenawas doing because it was wrong God did Judge her and and he judges all of us for all of our actions so to say that he doesn't care is not true cuz if didn't
05:26:08Brena/Paula/Alexiscare then why would Mary Magdalene stop do I'm saying there's no evidence okay so RAB though Rahab was a heartlet and she has
05:26:19Brena/Paula/Alexisa lot of mentioned in the Bible and she also is in the lineage of Jesus so yes she married into you know the Judaism
05:26:30Brena/Paula/AlexisChristian faith at the time and she changed her life and you know some man that was a Jew found value in her as a person because of what she did and she's
05:26:42Brena/Paula/Alexisin the line of Jesus she's mentioned in his you know genealogy I think it's horrible I think it's super wrong to do it I think that it I carry baggage and weight and guilt
05:26:54Brena/Paula/Alexisfor my lifestyle but you take accountability I don't so don't put that on me cuz I already said I don't feel more you said you're a kinky Chris I I'm saying I said I don't feel morally
05:27:05Lindsaybankrupt so you feel morally you're not committing to a video that you're in how how is that not morally bankrupting you clearly something in you is not comfortable with sharing something you
05:27:15Lindsaydid I didn't do that okay I I mean that's an old convo but the point is she I don't think she so three people are lying saw it you know what I I watch a
05:27:26Chrislot of police interrogation videos you and you like you're not behaving like an innocent person when people are innocent they're like I'm innocent ah no
05:27:38ChrisI need and you're just sitting there and then like but the people but the person who like actually did it they're so calm you notice that like the ones who are like actually seen those videos on YouTube where they say the innocent
05:27:51Lindsaypeople are really IR yes they are irate they crazy and it's the ones who are calm that are just like if there was a video of me online that I didn't put out there kind I would be I would have left
05:28:03Lindsaychecked my phone and figured it out immediately dud I'm getting more photos more videos you are full of [ __ ] you a [ __ ] liar I if I just found out that
05:28:15Lindsaysomeone's posting deep fakes of me online I would have left the podcast called the cop figur something out fre saying I would be freaked out I I wouldn't just be sitting here just oh
05:28:27Athenalike let's talk about the next thing like can address something that maybe this is a reason why girls shouldn't do only fans cuz let's say you didn't do it
05:28:38Athenaright you are now because of those pictures of you now this video is there that you're claiming is not real so you put yourself at risk by doing only fans
05:28:50Athenaand doing that type of content and now you're a Target yeah but the difference is I don't I don't care yeah if there is a video out there like that I wouldn't care um so then just admit that it's you
05:29:01Brena/Paula/Alexisand the video say you don't care did you show her the video she said she to see look at it after the podcast is over she doesn't want to see it look she's a liar it is what it is you know what's funny to me and I was thinking
05:29:14Brian Atlasabout this though we've had like a couple only fans girls do this sort of charade or whatever and it's like I've actually heard from some of these only fans girls and the only fans girls who come on and they're like just they're
05:29:26Brian Atlashonest and they have base takes or whatever but they're you know whatever they're still being degenerate like I think they actually tend to do better than the girls who come on and just lie
05:29:37Brian Atlasand just try to pay hander and do better like what what do you mean they they'll actually like get more followers the viewers I'm here trying to get followers or viewers for what other reason would you come on the show to promote my
05:29:49Brian Atlaslingerie brand is the original reason so okay you're trying to get more followers so that you can promote your lingerie brand how many more M bro what wait you're on here to promote your [ __ ] lingerie brand what the [ __ ] you realize
05:30:01Brena/Paula/Alexislike the majority of the audience is like 90% dudes if I was going to promote anything that's what it would would be it's not on here to promote my only fans but I came on here to have bro August in
05:30:11Brian AtlasAugust of 2024 there's a there's a photo of you bro you're okay I'm I don't even want to just you're full of [ __ ] that's pretty
05:30:21Brian Atlasmuch pretty much it but she swore to God too next topic maybe God-fearing conservative of girl kinky Christi feis
05:30:32Brian Atlaswhat a [ __ ] what a [ __ ] toaster brain okay um all right all right uh okay so no anyways getting back to your notes Here you I don't think I could be
05:30:45Brena/Paula/Alexiswrong I don't recall anywhere in the notes you saying you didn't want any of the stuff to come up it's possible you did whatever you what it's all good but like honestly but at least but at least
05:30:56Brena/Paula/Alexisyou're taking ownership of it and that is the exact difference I actually sent that to Brian before I even discussed being on the show and then I had said
05:31:07Brena/Paula/Alexislike I feel like people need to talk about the consequences that they carry that baggage I wish you would have more people on I wasn't talking about
05:31:17Brena/Paula/Alexismyself I was like I wish you would have more people on that would you know be real about cuz so many girls come on and act like I'm fine with it it's great doesn't affect me and I just don't
05:31:29Brian Atlasbelieve that I think that's a lie well so you you also said there's so much regret so much shame so much degradation in sexualizing yourself in any way for money or retention the consequences do last forever if possible you should get
05:31:41Brian Atlassome women on the show who were in and got out and are bold enough to be honest about the effects being in an industry like that will have on their future relationships and other aspects of their life these girls are putting on a bold front they're living out trauma and for
05:31:54Brian Atlasother young impressionable girls watching I think it would be powerful and responsible to expose some of the do
05:32:00Brian Atlasdarker aspects of of adult content Etc abely thanks 100%
05:32:09Brian Atlasso yeah um you said that you're did you used to do adult content or was it more like the bikini barista it was like I
05:32:18Brena/Paula/Alexiswas a bikini barista and then okay as far as that escorting I was more or less like a couple sugar
05:32:27Brena/Paula/Alexisdaddies but I consider it to be God I have kids that's kind of why I was like but prostitution you know what I mean that's what I consider it to be
05:32:38Brian Atlasand yeah being a so like what she does allegedly I whatever I don't why you looking bro you know you do this [ __ ] why you looking at me that way
05:32:47Brena/Paula/Alexisallegedly um allegedly and yeah you should regret it and if you don't regret it you become very callous you become very I think you're selling your soul in
05:32:59Athenaorder to but also not taking accountability it's like a slippery slope and it starts bleeding into other aspects of your life and you make excuse after excuse after excuse and then eventually you just do whatever you want
05:33:12Brena/Paula/Alexisand not but if you don't think that God judges you then it's you're holding yourself to a different standard that's true and I like I said I don't think it has anything to do with God loving you I
05:33:23Brena/Paula/Alexisjust think like God has okay if you're a Christian and you look at things from you know a Biblical perspective God has these rules and these things that we
05:33:32Athenacall sin in place to protect us you know and I will say in your defense um I don't think that your parents did a good job of teaching you that there are consequences for your actions and that's
05:33:45Athenawhy you don't think that God is going to judge you because your parents didn't judge you I honestly I think that your parents failed in that and well it that's your opinion like that doesn't really matter to me because I'm a very
05:33:58Brena/Paula/Alexishappy person like I've never been happier in my life and I love my parents seral K and be happy well I'm not and I'm really grateful for the way way my
05:34:07Lindsyparents raised me and who I am today so escort and a lying I'm just very surprised because when I I mean not that I surround myself
05:34:20Lindsywith a lot of sex workers or anything but I see you and I'm like I think you're absolutely stunning in the way that you present yourself and it blows my mind and the only thing I can think of that it blows my mind that you're
05:34:34Lindsydoing that Brian Brian I don't need your side commentary okay and it blows my mind because the only thing I can think is you actually
05:34:45Lindsythoroughly enjoy it but then it's the other hand because you're not taking ownership of something that is the white elephant in the room and it more attention she gets no more attention I
05:34:56Brian Atlasgot to cut it off she wants this is this is exactly what she wants and maybe so and maybe let me go find her video we've played into her [ __ ] per almost looking at
05:35:08Lindsyshe enjoys what she does and it's a business you know it's got its business purposes and you know we can say jokes on us you know what I mean but at the end of the day she Bamboozled us all okay back to your notes Here we might
05:35:21Chrisget a we might get a $1,000 you know donation if you just admit it I bet right I mean you got the you got the dupe smirk on your face like literally you're I thought you just said
05:35:34Brena/Paula/Alexisthat you would do photos for free so what does $1,000 matter to you J okay lighten up light up francisan literally have the dup SM you need to thank her you're laughing at all
05:35:46Chrisof us girl oh God please don't thank her for her service thank you no thank you thank you for your service say it for your service say it like you mean it say with your chest thank you for your service or don't say with your chest
05:35:58Brian Atlaskeep those away okay all right going going over to you never seriously I'm not being sex okay you ever look get
05:36:09Brena/Paula/Alexissomebody there's just nothing behind the eyes I actually I actually thought you were going to like me when I came on here you thought what I thought you were going to like me like as a person oh my gosh hold on let me I like
05:36:22Lindsyyou you haven't raged quit and you've been taken at all no you haven't like just quit and you're taking a heat no I I
05:36:32Lindsythink of what you do I think it's good it's good for the fin that's inter there's a lot of people last few
05:36:44Lindsyshows this panel is interacting as a whole I mean no not discrediting the show but the last two
05:36:55Jakeshow we need to move on got move on loves it this is what none of you guys understand me at all and that's okay you don't understand
05:37:07Jakeyourself lady if somebody if somebody had a video of me online and I didn't know Let it go this is already deep into
05:37:17Jakeit let me let me say if somebody had a video of me online and then I didn't know about it and then they brought up at the table I would
05:37:27Brena/Paula/Alexisbeting you're sitting there like like like smiling because just used to it like I'm just used to like people treating me like
05:37:37Brena/Paula/Alexisthat so treating like you like what like an escort no like like a liar like judging me for like here's the crazy thing if I don't think anyone was judging on that it was
05:37:49Brian Atlasjust a question and now it's like now seems if we have an O girl on and she's honest even if she like disagrees with
05:37:57Brian Atlasour our viewpoints worldview as if she's honest that's 100% respectable we've had women who I mean it's looking like the