BBW Roster?! Fake Conservative God Fearing ØNLYFANS Girl EXPOSED As Liar?! | Dating Talk #196

Date: 2024-09-16

Duration: 7h 46m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLindsay (Music)>

LLindsy (OC Sales)>

AAthena (TX Homestead)>

CChris (Pink Pill)>

AAlexis (DT196)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Chris(guest)

SPEAKER_02Lindsy(guest)

SPEAKER_03Brena/Paula/Alexis(guest)

SPEAKER_07Athena(guest)

SPEAKER_08Jake(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_13Eva(guest)

SPEAKER_14Lindsay(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrena: "I'm a kinky Christian" — describes her identity as conservative, God-fearing, and OnlyFans creator simultaneously.

“I'm a kinky Christian”

QuoteBrena says God does not judge her for having OnlyFans. Athena counters: "The Bible specifically says not to be a stumbling block."

“I don't think God judges me for having an only fans”

ControversyBrian confronts Brena Black with video evidence (matching tattoo) of oral sex act. Brena denies. Paula (ex-military) analyzes video from tattoo/facial features and confirms it is Brena. Jake calls her a liar. Brena maintains denial throughout.

QuoteBrena admits to being insecure about having an OnlyFans: "I hate that I have to have one it really sucks I wish I was just a trust fund baby."

“I hate that I have to have one it really sucks”

ControversyBrian presents escorting rate card matching a profile linked to Brena ($1800/hr coffee date, $3k lunch, $5k dinner, $8k overnight). Brena denies.

OtherAlexis discloses on-stream that ~13 years ago she was a bikini barista, calendar girl, and high-end escort. Says she was in a bad place, found faith, and takes accountability — contrasting with Brena who does not.

QuoteAfter being called a liar for the video, Brena says: "I actually thought you were going to like me when I came on here."

“I thought you were going to like me like as a person”

QuoteChris (51yo) shows old photo claiming she looks the same or better than 12 years ago. Brian says she looked better then.

OtherTwitch raid sent to "Well Grandma" — an 82-83yo woman playing World of Warcraft retail (level 83 character). Brian calls her a legend.

Topics Discussed

Opening announcements / show setup

Brian opens show from Santa Barbara. Standard announcements: Streamlabs donations, TTS ($200+), Discord (discord.gg/whatever), Twitch simulcast, merch, Instagram DMs for guests.

Guest introductions

All guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Order: Eva (20, LA, pre-law), Brena (28, Houston, lingerie/OnlyFans), Lindsay (20, music/DJ), Paula (36, Boston, ex-Marine/dog trainer), Lindsy (36, Orange County, sales director), Athena (36, Texas, homesteader), Chris (51, Tulsa, Pink Pill creator), Alexis (34, married, stay-at-home mom), Jake (28, Australian, Rattlesnake TV).

Relationship status round

Each guest describes relationship status and longest relationship. Notably: Chris is in a relationship (promise ring, ~1 year); Alexis is married (11 years); all others single. Paula and Lindsy revealed as old best friends reuniting after 19 years.

Disagreements with the show / media bias in dating discourse

Chris challenges the show for leaning too heavily on blaming women; Jake and Brian defend. Discussion of whether men have comparable dating flaws (porn addiction, doom scrolling, lack of ambition).

Tattoos — attractiveness, mental illness correlation, deal-breakers

Brian and panel discuss tattoos on women. 1990 study cited linking tattoos to mental disorders. Jake says tattoos near deal-breaker on women (would not want wife's body tattooed). Panel split. Face/neck tattoos are universal red flags.

Video games as a hobby — red flag?

Quick panel vote: is playing video games a male red flag? General answer: depends on frequency/severity. Basement-dweller scenario = deal-breaker.

Porn and relationships — is watching porn cheating?

Eva says watching porn is cheating (engaging in one-way sex act). Brena says OnlyFans subscriptions are different from regular porn. Panel mostly disagrees that porn = cheating. Jake: undesirable but not cheating. Jake compares women's social media attention-seeking to men's porn use.

Brena Black OnlyFans confrontation — "conservative God-fearing OnlyFans creator"

Brena introduced as "conservative and God-fearing OnlyFans creator." Panel presses contradiction with Christian faith. Debate on whether OnlyFans is sex work/prostitution. Brena says God does not judge her; Athena counters using Bible (stumbling block, lust as sin). Alexis reveals she had same contradictions in past (escort/recovery).

Partner preferences round — what do you want?

Each guest shares what they want in a partner. Brian gives his full list: natural body supremacist, introverted/quiet/modest, low body count, no drugs/bars/clubs, back scratches. Eva: taller, dry humor, open to McDonald's worker. Brena: Andrew Tate/Joe Rogan type. Lindsay: no self-filtering needed.

Red flags you would overlook

Round: Eva: guy having female best friend. Lindsay: colorful past. Paula: won't overlook anything. Lindsy: hygiene (chewing open-mouthed). Athena: own flaws she cannot hold double-standard on. Chris: thinks too many women call everything a red flag. Brena: past drug addiction, gambling, felonies (has overlooked). Jake: can't cook (fixable).

Politics discussion — women voting for Trump vs Kamala; 2024 election

Eva (Republican) says she voted Kamala Harris; panel pushes back hard. Debate on Trump's grab comment, border/immigration, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. endorsement cited. Women's right to vote debate (Jake/male guests argue women should be eligible for draft if they vote). Athena says most women at table are conservative-leaning.

Women's peak attractiveness / aging debate

Debate: is the average 35-year-old woman hotter than the average 25-year-old? All panelists say no except Chris (argues darker skin ages slower, shows old photo). Brian says stats peak between 20-24.

Brena Black video confrontation — tattoo evidence

Brian confronts Brena with video from Discord viewers showing woman with matching tattoo performing oral sex. Brena denies it is her throughout. Paula (ex-military analyst) examines video and confirms identity from tattoo, eyebrows, nose, hands. Brena claims deepfake. Jake calls her a liar. Panel concludes she is lying.

Eva — virgin, waiting for marriage, political science views

Brian goes through Eva's pre-show notes: virgin waiting until marriage (would not have sex even if certain she'd marry him). Prefers traditional relationship with provider husband. Would stay home if husband provided. Identifies as Republican but voting Kamala.

Brena escorting allegation

Brian presents escorting rate card ($1800/hr coffee, $3k lunch, $5k dinner, $8k overnight, $500+ island trips). Brena denies. Brian says 80% confident on escorting vs 100% confident on video.

Alexis reveals past as escort/bikini barista

After confronting Brena, Brian reveals Alexis disclosed in pre-show notes she was a bikini barista, calendar girl, and high-end escort ~13 years ago. Alexis says she acknowledges it was wrong, found faith, does not justify it. Brena says this is hypocritical given Alexis judged her.

Interracial dating / Chris's book "Swirling"

Chris discusses her 2012 book "Swirling" — advocated for Black women to date interracially. 42% Black women single at time. Notes Black men date interracially more. Argues all races should date whoever they want.

Charm school / etiquette argument

Chris argues women should bring back charm school etiquette. Notes guest on previous show stood up without considering on-camera exposure.

When to have sex — first date vs. commitment gatekeeping

Discussion of making men wait for sex. Brian: making a non-virgin wait sends mixed signal. Reddit post read: woman slept with FWB while making boyfriend wait; he blocked her when she confessed. Alexis: slept with husband 3 weeks in, told him she wanted to marry him. Jake: promiscuity of past affects partner value.

True rate me / physical attractiveness rating scale

Brian shows Reddit's "True Rate Me" women's rating primer (facial harmony, midface ratio, eye area, skin, features, bones). Panel discusses objectivity vs. subjectivity of physical ratings.

Age gap relationships

Debate on age gap relationships. Alexis argues optimal is same-age or man slightly older (can play with kids, share experiences). Chris: depends on stage of life; 18+45 has maturity gap. Jake: 5-10 year male-older gap is optimal. Athena: younger men struggle to lead older women. Examples: Ian Garry (UFC, 26+40yo), Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Macron.

Most challenging thing about dating as a single person

Round-table: each single guest describes biggest dating challenge. Eva: men not giving enough notice (last-minute date requests are auto-no). Athena: men resistant to non-physical rotational dating. Chris: people giving up too easily.

Dating apps — swiping strategies, roster/rotational dating

Debate on men mass-swiping vs. women being selective on dating apps. Brian prefers women who show high interest and cut other men after first date. Athena defends having 3-5 non-physical prospects simultaneously as single mom with limited time. Brian argues 52 sequential first dates > simultaneous roster.

Divorce rates by orientation / gay relationships

Brian cites statistic: divorce rates lowest for gay male couples, middle for heterosexual, highest for lesbian couples.

Bear vs. man in the forest / would-you-rather round

Would you rather encounter a random bear or random man in the forest? Eva, Athena, Chris, Lindsy: man. Lindsay and Brena declined/other. Joke round.

Closing / Twitch raid

Brian wraps show. Last call on likes. Twitch raid to "Well Grandma" (82/83yo WoW player). Show ends.

Transcript

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Chrisagain yes um I do think that there has been something lost in terms of the way we communicate with each other other um the way that

Chriswe the way that we dress the way that we speak to people um the respect that we give to people seems to be lost so yeah I do think I definitely do think that

Chrislike last week there was a girl on your show and she was sitting in the top and she just like went up to go to the bathroom and I could see everything I'm

Chrislike girl do you know how to do this careful on camera there in Austin do that you know what I mean and so yeah I

Christhink we could learn you know there's things that we can learn be more based civil yeah not more civil are you just talking about like etiquette and yes e

Chrisetiquette is what you do protocol is when you do it and I think that there's a lot of confusion about what you do and when you do it all right um You said uh these are disagreements I do think that the show

Brian Atlasdoesn't always give good representation of single women dating a see a seeming annoyance with women I take issue with some of the regressive stances the men take about women's agency and

ChrisSociety uh what are some of those um not necessarily Brian I was hoping Andrew would be here my main beef was uh the idea

Christhat women shouldn't be allowed to vote I mean that's a oh that's not my position no I know that's that's not my position so that that was what here yeah that was what I uh what that's what I

Christook issue with why should they be able to vote be you're not serious right we're not going to have this you want have if you want to have the discussion let's do it really I think we should

Chrisokay all right should should women be drafted uh no I I said I said I don't want to be dra let the veteran answer that question but um but we're going to keep on if we want to do if you're going to

Jakedo this we're going to have to keep on the subject so voting meaning the uh what do you mean that women first of all let me ask you what's your position no I'm asking you your position you're taking you're the one

Chriswho wanted to talk about I'm happy to steal man it so why why should they vote well I think that first of all it's it's a bizarre notion that the United States

Chrisgovernment or any other Western Country would ever take a woman's right to vote away from her it's a nonsense conversation that seems to be clicks for

Chriscash kind of conversation cuz it's never going to happen you're still not given any any reasons it's never going to happen um under past in most countries in the world our constitution does not allow

Chrisfor that our constitution says that men are created equal men and women are created should we draft wh should we draft women listen if you want to draft women you can you can talk to president

ChrisTrump or president Harris whoever is in charge if you want to do that but what we're talking about is can women vote yeah so once again what's the reason why women should should vote because they're

Chrisa human being they contribute to society let's take it one by one one by one by one human being mhm should should infants vote Yes so uh first off hold it

Chrisinto the mark women are half of this population they have a right and they have a say and they deserve to be represented why because they are half of this population they

Chrisare human beings and our constitution says that we are equal and not only that but but Society Western Society this is a regressive idea that women should not

Jakebe able to vote and what it would regressing to what you're saying 10 things we need we need to take it one by one because it's sping so regressive regressing to what regressing to a 100

Chrisyears ago over 100 years ago is that a bad thing yes it is would you say morally we're better off now than we were 100 years ago but we're not talking about that we are not talking about the effects of women being able to vote and

Chrisextrapolating that to where we are morally as a society because Hitler also happened when women were able to vote so if you look at how women vote I mean what do you want to what no I just want

Chrisyou to lay out a logical argument as to why vot we we B we we you said hum you said humans on a second you said they're humans um infants are humans should infants be able to vote no what's the

Jakenext one you you you to take it Point by Point you're doing a lot of talking but not making to much sense women are humans okay not a good reason what's the next one no but they are they are there

Chrisis a human right that's what I meant to say it is a human right to be able to vote so we can just scratch that I said women are humans and we'll just say it is a human right to vote ACC I think women should be able to vote and for the

Lindsaysake of this being clipped I don't think you're doing a great job at all of explaining why women should be able to vote cuz now people are going to see them be like that's why women shouldn't vote they can't make up their mind I

Lindsaymean that's not a good job let me for your contribution but let me she there's so many reasons I can name I you you please do a better job you're representing women that when this is

Lindsayclipped and people are saying this is why women shouldn't be able to vote like there's so many reasons okay well okay well you tell me we're a part of this society and we um we we do make up a big population but we're also a part of the

Lindsaysociety we work we contribute we pay taxes we're forced to pay taxes um we go through the education system we make decisions uh about our children and we want the best for our kids that's why we

Lindsayvote so we um should we take it one by one yes okay first one you work and pay taxes correct 14year olds work and pay taxes should they

Lindsayvote uh I think the age is 16 to work in uh to work but should they vote what how old do you have to be to vote 18 why can't 16y olds vote they work and pay taxes uh because they're just working

Chrisand they don't understand the system you know how's it a stroll man because you know that voting the the voting age is 18 so it's a cluster it's a cluster of things so the fact that we are it is our

Jakehuman right to be able to vote the fact that we to you made a CLA you made a claim you have to substantiate that claim where is this human right okay so

Chrisum I didn't say I would say that I would say that to um oh my gosh the organization the United Nations says that has declared that it is a woman's

Lindsayhuman right to vote no they haven't when did they say that the un's also cucked yeah well anyways a kindergarten shouldn't be able to vote a kindergartener shouldn't be able to vote but they're a part of the education

Lindsaysystem just like a 16-year-old Works wow you sound so much smarter than I did I'm making actual points so I

Athenadisagree um so uh so yeah kinderg can I interject for a second so um I feel like a majority of the women here are more

Athenaconservative leaning if you look at how women vote they lean more left more liberal they make bad decisions in

Athenavoting I personally I think that if you want to be able to vote you have to um be up for the draft um I think women should be able to give away that right you think that women shouldn't vote is

Lindsaywhat you're saying no I said that women uh women could be drafted that's what I'm saying but do you think that it's desirable to have women fighting in the military would you why person who was in the military sure let's let's go there

Jakewhat do what does that what do you mean desirable so do you would you rather be next to standing side by sides on the front line with a woman or a man uh I mean it depends I don't want some scrawny idiot on a man generally

Lindsayspeaking a man if you wanted to go into battle you'd want to be with a man right okay I just thought and also I just re thought my point men um are genetically stronger

Jakemen can build muscle quicker men have better endurance but that doesn't have to do with voting in my opinion whatsoever we we all have brains I'll tell you why it has to do with voting

Jakebecause if you are a woman who has who is able to vote then voting gets people into Power who can send people off to war who can send countries off to war whenever America goes into war actually

JakeAustralia follows them by the way but yeah so if you can send people to war have the power to nullify somebody's vote who's older than you and you can have that power then why should you not have to go to war yeah but you're making

Christwo different arguments here like you're making you're saying that if women want to vot vote you're saying if this then that you're not in any position of power to enforce that why are we even having

Christhis discussion you don't what are you going to do you can't make somebody who wants to vote decide they're going to unlist for the military saying regular people shouldn't talk about politics no but what I'm saying is is that you're

Chrisit's sort of just being provocative because it's like do you know what is what would have to happen for the vote to be of question just remove the 19th Amendment and and it would be absolute

JakeAnarchy would not women would not you listen women have guns women have gunset women know how to fight I'm not saying we hold on a second you talk for long periods of time you need to shorten

Jakethat a little bit all right goad so you said that it would be Anarchy you said all the women would get up and get their guns how do you think that would go I'm just saying it wouldn't go over well how do you think that would go for the women trying to over overthrow the military I

Jakedon't think that they care I think that in our country I don't know about why don't you answer the question how would that go for the women if they decided to be up in arms with all of the Anarchy and try and overthrow the government and reinstate the 19th Amendment no that's

Chrisnot what I'm saying what I'm saying is is that in order for the 19th amendment to have to be taken back taken way take retracted Poss it would have to be a

Chrismajor upset in our polit our political system for there to be a constitutional amendment what's going to happen and what you what are they going to do are they going to vote them out could I add

Chrissomething you're ask like you're you're the wom are so pissed off about about losing the vote what are they going to do vote them out okay listen what tell

Chrisme under what circumstances would it be possible for women to lose the vote I really want you to just take like lay it out for me what's the scenario sure

Jakethere'd be a republican uh what would happen what to you right now so a Republican president would be elected he would propose a bill that would go through the senate in the house that

Jakewould be to remove the 19th Amendment it would go to the Supreme Court the Supreme Court would be based Republicans and they would say yes get rid of that 19th Amendment and then the women wouldn't be able to vote anymore and then uh the Republicans would would get

Chriselected and we would and we would all just live together happily and we would all buy each other Coke and sing happily hand in hand no that's not never what else would we do at that point I'm not

Chrisgoing to be an anarchist with that but hold on a second one time you guys can all you guys can all all all throw your opinions at me go you know what I'm saying is this I'm not I'm not trying to

Chrisattack you I'm just no me you I'm happy I'm being very animated what I'm saying is is that for what you are

Chrissuggesting it would have to be all men Senate all uh men Congress or the strongest that is not when has that happened why should women be in politics

Lindsayokay you know you're not this is not a good you can be angry about it or you can make a logical argument why should but your argument is in good faith because you are not giving me the can I add in backrack for a second yeah add

Lindsaysomething I'm going to add in backtrack for a second men we're both women and men are born differently every human being is born with a brain and everyone

Lindsayis able to think men are gifted in the sense that they are stronger they run faster that's why we have men and women sports which I fully agree with men men

Lindsaywomen less neurotic less agreeable that's what in women you you can't have a kid everyone's born with different things but for the entire population we

Lindsayall have brains to think we all have arms and legs the majority obviously to can uh to work to do all that therefore women should be able to I I can't tell

Lindsayif you're playing Devil's Advocate or you really believe it but um you know you're from Australia so I'm I'm happy that you can't vote here for that I will say I'm happy for that but men getting

Lindsaydrafted they were born differently we born differently but we all have a common thing which is a brand and we could think I got the point I got the point I'm ready to ready to answer

Jakeokay so men being drafted because they're physically superi to women right and then you said that we can't have children physically Superior is not what I said you have different stuff you

Jakecan't have a kid that someone would can argue the opposite okay so would you like we made the argument before about the men going into the military you'd rather have a man next to you because he's physically Superior most most men the vast majority of men would beat up

TTS Readermost women we can agree to that right 100% cool up aquatic donated $200 lady in the green where do you

Christhink your rights come from being born in America yeah being um being born in US soil and having the rights and

Chrisprivileges of an American citizen that's where I got my rights um also my father was a uh fought in World War II and my grandfather fought in World War I we are

ChrisAmericans we love this country okay yeah your father and your grandfather serve the country good for them they Des to vote Yes they and you know what even even their daughters and their

Chrisgranddaughters also deserve to vote um people where I come from the right to vote is very important to us so I don't play with that okay well why why why is

Jakeit important to you because we weren't always able to vote in this country okay and it's it is very important to us okay but but like doesn't doesn't answer why you should I

Chriswould love to eat ice cream ice cream is important to me because my forefathers fought and died there were people who were hosed in the streets so that I could have the right to vote so I'm going to be an educated voter I'm going

Christo vote I am going to advocate for my children to vote I am going to make sure that I pick the best person for the job I am no I'm not a I am not a Democrat nor am I a republican I am a registered

Chrisindependent okay I choose I choose my politicians like I choose my Men Let The Best Man win would you choose Camala um I live in California so I don't like you

Lindsaysaid get a CH let's choose the best man to win yeah well usually usually is a man this is something that you can say is unusual yeah yeah but can I ask you why men should be able to vote just so I

Jakecan hear what in example of why what your well because men bear the most of the burden of responsibility in society men have to go to war men have to go and fight Wars men build all of the

Brena/Paula/Alexisinfrastructure around you so you think it's um all based on who gets drafted well that's one component but also do you think that women who go to an

Jakeexception to voting isn't even a thing if you serve your country I'd say that's that could probably be an exception okay but i' say it's a key component though being being being drafted women play a

Jakevital role in our society though yes but this is where it gets interesting because I don't look at the the right to vote as like a a either I'm like human or I'm not human I don't look at that as

Jakeany in any way your intrinsic value is your right to vote I think that people have value but in different ways I think that it's men's job to be in politics it's men's job to run Society we're less neurotic we're more we're less agreeable

TTS Readerwe're better leaders we're more physically capable and that we be the ones who play these dirty games LOL Paladin's friend donated $200 this blond escort now sweating

TTS Readerstaring out into the void realizing her past sins are finally catching up with her do you honestly think she's still in the running for that high value man

Brena/Paula/Alexisnow um do you want to respond to that who is he asking do it's you're the b I thought we agreed we were done do you think she's still in the running obviously nobody in this panel thinks

Brena/Paula/AlexisI'm in the running for a high value man but I do have high value men in my life and I don't agree so teach their own cool would you say that your dad's a

Jakehigh value man yeah and he supports your sex work he does okay all right anyways where were we so men uh build all the infrastructure around us men are better leaders I think that men support sex

Jakework but that's men belong in politics and men and I think that actually we do women a massive disservice because women's role generally in society if we're looking at what's fruitful is to

Jakereproduce and is to be mothers that's the primary role of a woman and I think that the primary role of a man is to protect and provide and along that is and along with that is all of those disgusting things like fighting Wars

Jakedoing politics playing playing the game of chess that is that is politics and women in their best form in I think it's just a fact is raising children and if

Athenayou can Channel what whatever power that you have as a woman into a family there's nothing better that you can do I agree there need to be in politics I will say that there are outliers cuz we can look at the Bible and see that there

Athenaare outliers but I think there are too many women who want to be an outlier but they have none of the characterist istics of an outlier so it's kind of like goes into the whole delusional

Athenathing people think that they're um more attractive than they are and all of that and there it's like everyone wants to be an outlier now but that's

Lindsaynot they're they're outliers for a reason they're rare you see that men uh usually have those traits right that's why in America we have the system of if you went to prison because you committed

Lindsaya crime you get your votes Stripped Away from you because we've decided that if you commit that you don't have the brain capacity or whatever the right words would be but women like just say I'm

SPEAKER_12able to spit my opinion right now and I lean more Republican right but I don't think that has to do girl in the lime green shut the blank

SPEAKER_12up idiot have a conversation like the others are trying to have if you want equal rights sign up for the draft well was the last you said um does someone the last statement you you lean

JakeRepublican oh I said I re lean Republican I don't think yeah but you also mentioned about the prison system and that's a good system in the sense that people who commit bad crimes but doesn't that just show you that democracy is malleable democracy is not

Jakethis sort of overarching thing where everybody has this human you can take away the vote from people if it benefits Society if you don't want a criminal voting then you can take away that vote I me that's what I'm saying but women like also like they're not really

Lindsayplaying like a good good Society role if like if I mean obviously there circumstances but I'm saying women if I have to pay taxes I went through the school system um I'm still dealing with

Lindsayinflation I still have to pay gas I still have to do all these things and I want to say in How I Live I want to say for how my children grow up and you say like uh men are more rational but you're

Lindsaytalking to a group that seems to lean more to the right so it's it's a matter maybe look does everyone on the panel think that women should have the right to vote all the girls all the women I do yes wait Jake one thing really quick I

Brian Atlasdon't know if you made this argument cuz I was gone for a bit you mentioned like women pay taxes Argo women should vote but if you look at women as a collective they're actually a net negative like they take out far more in taxes than

Lindsaythey put in so men are the only ones that actually contribute collectively everything is taxed even I'm not disagreeing with that but everything's

Lindsaytaxed the money I from going to work the things I buy if I want to go buy an iPhone like I'm still getting taxed on the phone like I still pay taxes like women women take out far more in taxes

Lindsaycollectively than they put in whereas men are the only net positive when it comes to the tax system the way way you're question I'm saying that that's a generalization though I'm not I'm not taking money from the government again I

Chrisactually this is even my position I'm fine can I try to find some Middle Ground I'm fine with women I just I just want to know in what way way do women drain the system is it through

Brian Atlaschildbirth or Tak care kids I mean it's uh I forget the exact terminology but tax net negative women I'm going to just Google it uh please don't get something

Brena/Paula/Alexisfrom the 1990s I'm just trying to look into it's probably the way that we file taxes like head of household so it's uh

Brian Atlasmen are net taxpayers whereas uh so men pay taxes in the aggregate women do not uh let's see here as to the reasons

Lindsayhere um I mean it's kind of self explanatory here so that's I can understand what you're saying without I'm not going to speak on something that I haven't

Lindsayresearched and I don't know because I'm not just going to talk out my ass but at the same time I feel like I have a good head on my shoulders especially for my age and when I drop my children off at

Lindsayschool um I don't want them learning certain things that are like that I don't agree with and I want to have the vote on that if Cala was uh whatever uh president and she's telling uh Planned Parenthood to give out free birth

Jakecontrol without my knowledge I don't want that to happen and and yeah I say I reckon um somewhere you could find middle ground is that do you

Chriswant to quickly ask me a question before we do this yeah I wanted to ask you do you personally believe that um women should not have the right to vote Yes you do personally believe that yes I

Chrisagree with you actually um so what kind of government would you call that well you could still call it a representative democracy but only men vote people get stripped of their of their rights to

Chrisvote all the time no but you're talking about 50% of the population we're not talking about a few felons here and there we're talking about the entire swath of you know like half of I'm I'm

Chrisaware you don't have to explain it so so if the if you have half of the country not being represented what is that government called well it's still called a representative democracy but less people vote no how can it be a

Chrisrepresentative democracy when there's literally millions of people who are not being represented well there that's happening right now children conv vote no I'm asking you what kind of government is that I'm just told you but you're not accepting my answer I I I

Jakethink that it's more totalitarian government than not it's not a democracy a democracy democracy first of all the United States of America is not a democracy it's a constitutional republic understand yes I

Jakeunderstand um you guys just have a represent you have a system where you have a democratic vote but it's not a pure democracy and obviously and democracy isn't like Utopia you know de democracy isn't this idea of Heaven

Jakedemocracy is just a political system but we're not it's not it's not like a Flawless political system so it needs to be adjusted so um the idea want to do it well we we can talk about it we can all have our different ideas and if if you

Jakehave your ideas you can say them and you know say saying saying to me something like well you're the one to fix it all doesn't actually make a good argument for you I'm not I'm just asking yeah I'm not my my argument is I think I have good ideas you think you have good ideas

Chrisso let's talk on on the Merit of the ideas rather than I think all right let me ask you this is there any possibility in this conversation that I could be wrong or you could be wrong or I could be right and you could be right yeah of course so so we're going to have a real

Jakeconversation that's what I've been trying to do okay all right that's good can we go and ask everyone yeah think I um so I think that in terms of finding common ground I think that one way that would be actually pretty effective is having a

Jakevote for for a for the home rather than the individual vote because when you look at yeah the value of the value of men and women is obviously very different when it comes to fighting Wars and then creating a home if you had a

Jakevote where it was the there was one vote per household but it was the husband who G did the vote then that would make a lot of sense because if you did want

TTS Readerto B to 77 donated $200 for the Americans who is everyone voting for the next election and why I'll just finish that off if you did want to vote and if it was so important

Jaketo you then you could get married and be a part of a family and you and your husband could make that decision I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this statement but do you think that to vote you should be married I think that

Brena/Paula/Alexishaving a vote in the home in the nuclear family would be a good idea the best representation for a single person so how does that work for somebody like me for instance where I was married before

Lindsaysingle women no single men yes okay so that's not a family voting it's basically just men they pretend to listen to the women I mean but that's just I I feel like that's a lie like

Jakethat to phrase it is something that you don't actually mean like can we agree on that that's I'm not I'm not 100% sure what your point is because I I may I

Lindsayactually made the ARG what I think like Mis saying is that you said that married women so the man just goes in

Lindsayit's kind of just like here's a dollar and then I'm giving a million dollars to that person but saying it's it do IDE the man is the head of a household and the man does so men only should vote though so you're just rephrasing it in a way that may

Jakesound like better to women well no you're a part of a family unit and the man represents the family and he casts his vote on behalf of the family correct but you said single men should be able to because single men can get

Brian Atlasdrafted and single men build the infrastructure around you I got I got to move things on a little bit here but uh I think women should vote but I also think they should be drafted in fact for Equity sake uh

Brian Atlasfor the they should actually be the only ones drafted and forced to fight them in Wars for the next thousand years or so that would be Equity to me so I think uh

Brian AtlasI think we do that going to going to the T s going to the TTS that came through for the Americans who is everyone voting

Brian Atlasfor the next election why this is uh bster the bster 77 thank you for the TTS appreciate it uh who are you voting for and quickly why comma because I want to

Evaokay Trump because he encourages American manufacturing Trump trump Trump trump doesn't matter I live in California okay I passed it doesn't

Brena/Paula/Alexismatter um I don't actually vote my dad votes for me and I just signed the ballot been doing it since I was 18 but I'm pretty sure it will say Trump okay all right let's see we have Dylan Joe can I have you read this one

EvaBrian don't be so hard on yourself you're not over the hill if you retire at least become a pilot your intro Spiel makes me feel like I'm landing on whatever Planet this girl is lucky

TTS ReaderAndrew Tate's not here listen to Jake just Andrew makes me feel like I'm landing this girl is lucky Andre not here and White Night donated $200 thank

TTS Readeryou quiet how about we don't move on please Aussie white night stay out of this you are being boring this is the best topic of the night where my man caught the escort being a pathological

Brian AtlasLi BLM laus oh God do we really have to talk about this again # big La matters appar I mean look I'm getting a lot of uh oh boy you should do a poll can you

Brian Atlasdo a poll on who wants to move on the chat I'm going to have to uh I think I'm not even posting anything like the people in the Discord are finding a [ __ ] ton of [ __ ] so is there something is

Brian Atlasthere something else now is there something elen not being able to vote this is regressive is there's another video but hold on hold on hold on uh so

Athenadiscord.gg whatever if you want to see it if you want to see all that the stuff what's up if if y'all really think that she's doing that just to kind of bring more

Brian Atlasattention to her only fans then why continue it n [ __ ] I don't know calling out Liars I guess but so also the CRA thing lingerie model this is the most

Brian Atlasconservative she's ever dressed anywhere she knows exactly what she's doing she knows there's a bunch of like conservative viewers and she's trying to Pander but I am a conservative though so

Brian Atlasthis is the most conservative you've ever dressed in your entire life let me put on a Hillary Clint hold on don't interrupt please let me put on a Hillary Clinton [ __ ] uniform so I can Pander

Brena/Paula/Alexisto my perceived understanding of the whatever audience so it's not that conservative we can't even see it's really not that conservative it's just

Jakeplaying a character no I wor cuz I thought I'd be cold cuz I'm always cold so I'm not sweating first of all whoever said that what have we had we've had the Virgin last time remember that girl with all the surgery who said she didn't have surgery and she said she was a virgin or

Brian Atlaswhatever that one who was on sof under belly what go all the surgeries yeah maybe she said yeah yeah yeah I know exactly what you're talking about Yep this is It's the exact same she was ous

Jakethough yeah she was the worst this is not as bad this is not as bad as her but um this one you can't actually confirm it with the other one you could I have a question yeah go ahead so with you whether or not you did this I obviously

Brena/Paula/Alexisdon't know I haven't seen the video I can't confirm anything but is your like hold back from confir confirming this video that you think those of us on here that like might have

Brena/Paula/Alexisa different perspective on only fans like we would judge you if you openly admitted that you were in these videos or is it I mean it's I've already been

Brena/Paula/Alexisfully judged on the I've already had all the Judgment um so I'm not scared of being further judged I just didn't do that so I'm not going to confirm

Brena/Paula/Alexissomething that's untrue okay it's crazy though honestly I I don't have a problem doing that I haven't though so I wouldn't care about being

Brena/Paula/Alexisjudged hold on all right uh I just don't sell that kind of content can uh like and how am I promoting my only fans and I'm literally saying I don't sell that kind of content I don't do that so is there any chance that this check it out

Brena/Paula/Alexisis there any chance that this is a private video with somebody that you were dating previously that recorded something that got on the internet that was not I would know if somebody did that to me okay it's crazy though because I mean like

Brian Atlasthis hesitation to want to share something like this we've had full-blown escorts prostitutes they've had like literal they work for uh a brothel they

Brian Atlasyeah I don't think what you've done is even to that degree and they just come on admit it we don't like one of the most Pleasant guests we've ever had on her name's uh Lauren Lauren Lauren she's

Brian Atlasslept with like over a thousand men for work or whatever and we treat her perfectly politely respectfully she's a good sport and it's just like but when you lie I think that's the issue that I

Brian Atlasand the viewers have it's like when you lie about it then that's people are like well hold on nope here's the XYZ video here's all this other stuff anyways I don't really want to linger on it's kind of beating a dead horse um it gives it a lot of attention though and not saying

Evathat that's what you any this I'm going to have if you're ask the woman stop stop go ahead ask the woman why they should vote and they start fighting amongst each

Evaother even if someone has a good opinion if they can't logically articulate why their opinion hold less value learn it to think men would do that too mhm men

Brian Atlaswill argue too I mean sure that's um I agree though I don't think I've articulated you think do you think uh women should be drafted

Evano because I agree with him that um men's are men's bodies are like physically Superior not superior but like but you think women should be allowed to vote right mhm yeah so I okay

JakeI've done a lot of traveling over the last few years and I've been to Bley in Thailand spent a bit of time there working digital Nomad stuff and there's a lot of Russian Ukrainian girls over there like thousands of them everywhere

Jakeeverywhere you go but in Russia and Ukraine there's probably upwards of a million young dudes who have been blown to pieces and died in the war so we can talk about this in a way that's you know just abstract but it actually really

Jakehappens in the real world where these guys get called upon and they have to go to war so it's actually it's not a it's not a small deal and all and all the chicks they get to run off to to uh to ble in Thailand if you actually if you

Jakeactually place the Practical reality in front of a girl and be like you have this risk where you will go and potentially get blown up by artilleries or lose your legs or something like this

Jakethey don't know what artillery is you get blown to smin I guarantee you you would give up your vote in a second if it meant that you had to do that I

Chrisdon't think anybody should uh have to do with the draft we don't have the draft in this country for a reason because PA I know there's been a men

Jakehave to register in this country they don't have to be drafted immedately no they Auto sign up they there's no draft there hasn't been a draft there was a war tomorrow and the US had to go and

Chrisfight a hot War you would military there was no draft like when we had we had a a um conflict in Iraq we did not have a draft you didn't need to we didn't need to have a draft because there was enough

Lindsaypeople you were you were fighting like sheep headers you didn't need to we we also did not do the draft so um it's what I'm saying and it's in place if needed it's not like oh it's it's not

Brena/Paula/Alexisjury duty where it's like oh this guy needs to go there is enough men and women who volunteer to put their life on the line that we don't need to utilize a draft it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist you have to sign up for the draft

Brian Atlaswhen you are a man and you turn of age okay that's I didn't know that yeah and there's consequences if you don't there's it's Tech felony $250,000 fine you're barred from certain federal jobs

Brian Atlasfederal programs you can't get student aid uh there's a whole bunch of ramifications um so I have a wait I have a question for you real quick for it um

Lindsaysome men can't be able to get drafted du they're very I don't know the exact if they lessen what the requirements are if it comes to a draft I'm not sure about that but I know that there are certain

Lindsaythings that you know if you have me if you're on medication you follow like I have Celiac so I can't eat gluten I couldn't go to war even if I wanted to because of that um that's a thing you can look it up really C people with

Brena/Paula/Alexisceliac disease are barred from there's a lot of gluten at wall bro what the hell look it up if you have a certain intolerance there are C there are certain why don't you guys let Paula answer that question certain things that

Brena/Paula/Alexisprohibit you if you have like heart disease if you have stuff that would affect like your physical and and actual like you know well-being and could cause

Brena/Paula/Alexisthe death of somebody else because you have a heart attack or you know have um diabetes stuff like that yes there are medical exceptions to it but other than medical I did look it up a diagnosis of

Brian Atlasceliac or food allergies is medically disqualifying largely because the military does not provide glutenfree your allergen safe MREs so that's what I'm saying that that's there are medical exceptions yes

Lindsaysome people can be medically disqualified from well you say that like it's a blown off but you were wrong number one number two the question number two the question that I had was do you think men that don't qualify if they have Celiac or they have certain heart yeah if you're medically

Chrisdisqualified you're not going to be drafted that's what I'm saying so are they able-bodied women are not subject at all so do the men who are disqualified from um being drafted can they vote

Jakethat's what I'm ask that was the question it's a good question um I would say that if you're a Celiac and you don't want to be drafted then yeah you shouldn't vote well okay well it's not a joke I can't eat gluten and I can end up

Lindsayin the hospital it eats my stomach lining every two years I have to get a biopsy and a would accept that but that's a normal thing some people can't some people have it so severe where they can't even use the same pan I mean it's

Lindsaynot like just a blown over joke like if you you'll starve if Mr uh MREs it's what it's called they they I assume have gluten in them right yeah but the

Brian Atlasmilitary these are the current standards we we're not really involved in like a massive uh mobilization so the military could always like oh we really need people we're going to roll this back and perhaps we don't send them to the front

Brian Atlasline where they need to be consuming MREs but they could stay States Side and being beu uh some form of military service whatever the military needs pencil pushers like paper pushers look what

Jakethey're doing the average age of service at the moment in Ukraine is like 45 they they're ripping people off the streets and drafting them left right and Center

Chrisso here here's the deal I think that women draft women do give service during times of war and if you want to win Wars you're not going to put women on the front lines anyway no put them on the

Chrisfront Lin going to put soften up the enemy a little bit we're going to be watching the cups we're going to be washing the clothes we're going to be doing the that the same [ __ ] you were done before yeah exactly so if that

Chrismeans if that means that's what I'm going to do when I get drafted okay if it if I'm serving my country okay I mean I don't have the okay but I'm willing it's a support I love this country it's a support role and I'd be okay to do it

Evaanyways let's uh let's get back to dating uh you I'll read this or actually I'll have you read this go ahead Ukraine is an example of why women should not vote they elected a politician that are terrible at managing the economy weak

Evaweakening the country so much it became an easy target the war starts at and hundreds of thousands of men are dead and women are simply left in yoem thank you for the uh $100 Super Chat man

Brian Atlasreally appreciate it actually there's a really good uh I I'll just uh say it so Jake already kind of brought this up but we've shown this graphic before where

Brian Atlasyou'll see uh like people who are in other countries will see Ukrainian women on dating apps in these other countries they fled Ukraine and they're on Tinder hinge Bumble they're out at the club

Brian Atlaspartying whatever meanwhile their male counterparts their male peers are like dead in some ditch in like eastern Ukraine so it's like very there's such a massive contrast there that's kind of

Brian Atlasinteresting to point out uh thank you for the Super Chat though appreciate man let's get back to something dating related let's get through the notes here let's see where were we crystallin

Brian Atlascrystalline crystallin crystallin CH Chris definitely not a Comm communist you said I think that the show does a

Brian Atlasrelatively good job of pointing out the absurdities in dating when it comes to women but not so much on the men who are also capable of such [ __ ] it gives the impression that all the issues

Brian Atlaspeople are having in dating is 100% on women which is patently not true we kind of dived into that a little bit yeah early on in the conversation but I have a extra I have something else that I

Chriswant to bring up too and that's it's another layer to it gen Z is averaging at I two IQ points lower than the rest

Chrisof us they are addicted to their devices they um are they are not make meeting reading and math scores they have

Christerrible communication skills teachers are quitting because the the kids are so horrible and I think about less intelligent poor reading comprehension

Chrisskills poor um critical thinking skills and all they have is the internet to teach them they've they were born on

Chrisit it's been their whole lives and when you're talking about that level of intellectual vulnerability I shedder to think like some of the things that are

Chrisbeing promoted not not necessarily this show but I'm saying in general um some of the extreme content on both sides like you know get a guy for all his money or you know sleep with a thousand

Chrisgirls before you marri like these are all bad this is bad advice and we follow those things to their logical end then we're doomed we're in trouble I just

Christhink that as content creators we have kind of a responsibility these kids are the oldest cohort is 14 these are the people who are born 20110 and after and

Chrisin four years they're going to be voting age you know they and they have these issues do we really want the relationship advice just in general the things saying and I just

Christhink that we just need to be more responsible I think there's a lot of people who disagree are are you talking specifically about this podcast or no no I I I specifically said I think that's why I'm here because this podcast is is

Chrisis good I said it leans a little bit but I've seen extreme and I think that it SWS discontent you are dealing with very vulnerable kids and you're putting all of this nonsense into them you're not

Christeaching them how to be in relationship who is putting I don't want to say but it's not you okay are you talking about the red pill red pill content but also uh sort of exploit men monetarily

Chriscontent like men are trash like oh there was a woman uh here yesterday uh last week and you were going through a Twitter feed and it was just one thing after the other about men this like I'm

Chrisshe's so stupid this like that is yeah it's unnecessary I think it's just not going to end well if we don't do something all right so this CR this isn't a criticism

Brian Atlasuh about the podcast oh okay all right no I just had the voting thing for Andrew but he wasn't here okay uh let's get into some of the other notes we have uh Lindsay uh hair stylist used to be a

Brian Atlashair stylist yeah okay um do hair looks great you uh you dated a marine and your roommate at the time apparently had a

Brian Atlascrush on him she got drunk and expressed it to me then bit me lit literally yeah literally so I was like

Lindsy24 uhuh and I well I moved to California from Illinois um when I was 22 and then moved to Newport got a roommate um she was living there in the two-bedroom at

Lindsythe time but anyways we went out one night um and we met like some guys that were in theid military keep in mind this isn't like a trend that she's here to

Lindsywith that um she was like we we didn't like talk about it and then we went out and met with them like I I think the following weekend and the

Lindsyone that had a crush on me apparently she had a crush on but didn't say that now keep I'm coming from a younger standpoint so we were on in the taxi

Lindsyfrom the Newport Peninsula going back to the house and then she just started freaking out crying I barely knew her like she was a mut like a referral for a

Lindsyroommate and um she bit me she literally bit like into my arm damn like took a chunk mhm yeah wow uh that's really C

Lindsythat's crazy you have a scar well it's pretty much gone now cuz it's been a long time but I I called the cops because it was bleeding and I was like standing outside

Lindsyand the very next day um well I called my cousin that night and they came and I went to their house and then we went there tomorrow to get my stuff but it was really intense she had a well I

Brian Atlasdidn't know her all that well and I was still kind of uh you said that you had a disagreement uh you do not agree with Brian giving an ultimatum on if a woman

Brian Atlaswants a second date having to fully commit to only going on dates with him I will elaborate more on the show uh please please do I don't agree with that

Lindsybecause I feel like that there is a mix of who comes on this show so me I don't

Lindsygo on a lot of dates at clearly hav in 10 months um so my dating with intention I don't at first dat just I

Lindsydon't think they are real I feel like they are a fallacy they're oh they're fake they're they're Someone putting on the best behavior showing all their best

Lindsyqualities and whatever that means um I think that committing to someone before you actually like why would

Lindsyyou why would you commit to somebody that you just did a first interview with without seeing them in a n let's

Lindsymake that second dat in a natural habitat like around their friends and in a social environment now people can say that sounds like pressure why are we

Lindsyintroducing to friends no and my opinion is when I'm around my friends or I see somebody in their environment it kind of sees how things can click whether it's friendships or I mean you're not going

Lindsyto go to the family but in a social environment or some sort of setting where it's not somebody on their best behavior every single person is on their best behavior on a first dat and if well

Lindsyif they're not then obviously there's bigger issues but I just think that getting or having that commitment kind of devalues

Lindsycommitment well I mean there's varying degrees of uh commitment right do you see at all where I'm coming from with

Brian Atlasthat well I mean people can operate in different ways 100% but my own personal standard is if you want a second date

Lindsywith me it has to be a wrap on other dudes are you are you saying a second date with you when it's being intimate

Lindsyor that means that they cannot go like what if they're what if they plan a second date with you and they're out somewhere whether it's a grocery

Lindsystore a restaurant or a bar and they meet somebody else and they spike it you know spark an interest you guys are in a relationship what if they exchange phone numbers is that still to you in you know

Brian Atlasyou know is that is that the same thing like where where is your boundary with that well sort of I think the greater context for this is if I were to meet

Brian Atlassomebody off of a um if you met them off a dating app right for example uh I actually don't think it's all that hard to date one person at a time I agree and

Brian Atlasso and this doesn't mean obviously you can date this person and if it works out great or you go on two three four dates and it doesn't work out then you can move on to somebody else but if I were

Brian Atlasto go on a first date with a girl and I find out that she's got three other dates lined up with three other men I lose interest immediately now I think that that's kind of pretty common for a lot of people

Brian Atlaswhen they're dating they're dating multiple people at the same time now if a girl is sleeping with a guy and talking to me that is a 100% a deal

Brian Atlasbreaker a lot of women move like that a lot of women move like that if they're sleeping with one maybe two maybe three not interested at all I don't even want to [ __ ] you I don't want to go on date with you I don't want to kiss you I

Brian Atlasdon't want anything to do with you if you're sexually involved with another man now I take it a step further though I think that should be the Baseline for men if she's sex sexually involved with

Brian Atlasanother man it's a rap you don't deal with her at all some of these dudes say recreational use only you can still [ __ ] her no she doesn't get anything back to the streets she goes now when it comes I

Brian Atlastake it a step further though I have higher expectations if she's romantically involved with another man this means even going on a date with another man not interested MH there's

Brian Atlaswomen there are women out there who are properly single it's rare is there are women who are properly single who are not involved with another guy who are not like trying to go on three dates a week and they're kind of playing the

Brian Atlasfield there's women who are not on dating apps so this is going to be much more common amongst women who are not on dating apps you for examp ex you said you've not been on a date for how long um well realistically I haven't been on

Brian Atlasa date since my since my son's father like and you said you've been single for uh 10 months though yeah it's proba I mean we could give or take a little bit longer but that's just but you haven't

Brian Atlasdated you haven't I haven't dated anyone well I mean you yourself would be in terms of how you're moving in the dating Market Place you're not you're properly single you're not dating other men if I were to ask you on a date it's there's a

Brian Atlasfairly good likely time we can go Bri okay kidding but if I were to ask you on a date there's a fairly uh there's a fairly high confidence level on my part it's likely that you're not going to

Brian Atlashave a date like 3 Days Later given hold on just given that you haven't been dating for the past 10 months so I think finding this actually isn't that rare and I don't actually think for

Brian Atlasrelationship and commitment minded men that this is actually a massive ask and you you fall into this sort of category where I wouldn't an anticipate you if I went on the first date with you given

Brian Atlasyour lack of I'm not saying this insult you but your lack insulting I your lack I think it's good actually uh your lack of romantic prospects going into a date with you I would not anticipate that

Lindsylike the day after you'd go on another date right so I actually don't think it's unreasonable I think where I was coming from when I had wrote that well for one the things that I would like

Lindsydisagree on would be just like the way that certain things were articulated in the way they came out when it came to it so I felt like I just had to put like an answer sure but I look at like you know

Lindsyyounger and not all younger girls but you know everybody's in a different type of dating period And when they hear that I see like that's where you know I I

Lindsywould essentially say that disagreements are in a line but something that ties in kind of piggybacks on that is you know when it comes to like paying for the

Lindsydate me personally I don't go on serial dates I don't go jump around oh I'm going to go on a date if I'm going on a date with somebody that's like they're special to me I'm not meeting them off

Lindsyof a dating app it's just not something I'm interested in doing so I would definitely want the man to take me out

Lindsyon a proper date and pay no I don't need some elaborate um elaborate you know if you try to over impress I'm under I'm so not impressed cuz I don't like like it I

Brian AtlasI don't like it when people are over the top does that make sense sure and I can go further into it if we if I mean I guess to just wrap up on the whole like this ultimatum I essentially give of if

Brian Atlasyou want to continue seeing me if you want to second date it has to be a rap with other men or there can't be other men in the picture um yeah probably a lot of women that'll end up being an

Brian Atlasissue because they're they are involved with other men whether they're sleeping with them or dating three four five men at the same time they have a roster whatever um attract them like those kind

Brian Atlaswomen I think I do actually uh wait wait what attct if you attracted wait do are you saying do I attract the type of

Brian Atlaswomen are that mult no no I attract the type of women that don't do that is what I meant is what I'm meaning to say um so

Brian Atlastypically anyways but I I mean I I was on the dating for a long period And when you're on the dating apps typically the women on the dating apps you're going to encounter this much more frequently because dating apps give them hundreds

Lindsyof options I've been on it I've gone on it like a dating app but it's not something I'm like executed yeah so if you can find women off dating apps I think it's much more likely you you'll encounter yeah and assuming you don't meet them in like bars or nightclubs

Brian Atlasyou're much more likely to uh encounter women who are dating a little more intentionally that don't have like a million men in the picture right uh dating apps you'll you'll encounter this all the time like it's the the woman who

Brian Atlasdoesn't do this would be the exception to the rule I remember I went on a date with like an average looking girl and she told me she had just downloaded hinge I was like uh she downloaded hinge

Brian Atlaslike a week prior she'd already been on three dates she tells me this on the date she said she had five more dates lined up and I instantly just lost all interest I was just like okay do you think it takes away the value of your

Lindsytime with that person for oh I do feel like it takes the value away from your time with that person yeah I'm just not I mean not really interested at that point um are you dating to marry I don't want

Brian Atlasto get married oh I forgot are you dating to have your long-term partner uh yeah yeah I prefer long-term relationships I'm not interested in the in like short-term casual sex or sleeping with a girl once and never

Brian Atlastalking to her again if I sleep with girl I want there to be continuity I want to continue seeing her and I do prefer long-term what about you Jake relationships what exactly is the

Lindsyquestion when do when you go on a date with a woman do you think that that should be like their endgame ongoing other dates and or um it depends on who she is and

Jakegenerally with the type of girls that I date it wouldn't it would be implied but um yeah after the first one I'd say unless they're in they've they're like a a virgin and they've held on to their purity and

Jakethey're not going around sleeping with other guys and that sort of thing but um yeah generally I'd say after the first or second day but if they if they're a girl who's who's not sleeping around and they're just meeting guys it's a tough

Jakeone it's a tough one because after the first or second date it would be like you'd have that chat but may I don't know yeah do you think a lot of first States sometimes is somebody just putting on their best self and you can't

Jakeyou can get deep but only to a certain degree of like the would say so from my perspective because generally I can weed out a lot of a lot of things on the first date and ask little leading

Jakequestions and you can see where it takes them what they say what their answer is where your interview yeah you can bet I mean and I agree don't like dates

Lindsyhonestly I don't like dates because I'm like shut up like I know you're not like just knock it off like and I think that having I don't know it's a lot of pressure going on a date um if you're

Lindsydating intentionally um after dating to get a free meal or do something you know elaborate and bougie that you can't afford to do on your own well then I guess you're you know you're going to

Lindsyget what you get but I just authenticity and someone being their true self is so far lost in a lot of ways I feel when it comes to I have I have a question for

Brena/Paula/Alexisyou guys specifically cuz obviously like you're the only two men here um in regards to dating apps well I mean in like this space I I really um yeah this

Brena/Paula/Alexisis something that a man once told me and I was absolutely floored by this conversation cuz I did not realize this was a thing do men randomly download

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