BBW Roster?! Fake Conservative God Fearing ØNLYFANS Girl EXPOSED As Liar?! | Dating Talk #196

Date: 2024-09-16

Duration: 7h 46m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLindsay (Music)>

LLindsy (OC Sales)>

AAthena (TX Homestead)>

CChris (Pink Pill)>

AAlexis (DT196)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Chris(guest)

SPEAKER_02Lindsy(guest)

SPEAKER_03Brena/Paula/Alexis(guest)

SPEAKER_07Athena(guest)

SPEAKER_08Jake(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_13Eva(guest)

SPEAKER_14Lindsay(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrena: "I'm a kinky Christian" — describes her identity as conservative, God-fearing, and OnlyFans creator simultaneously.

“I'm a kinky Christian”

QuoteBrena says God does not judge her for having OnlyFans. Athena counters: "The Bible specifically says not to be a stumbling block."

“I don't think God judges me for having an only fans”

ControversyBrian confronts Brena Black with video evidence (matching tattoo) of oral sex act. Brena denies. Paula (ex-military) analyzes video from tattoo/facial features and confirms it is Brena. Jake calls her a liar. Brena maintains denial throughout.

QuoteBrena admits to being insecure about having an OnlyFans: "I hate that I have to have one it really sucks I wish I was just a trust fund baby."

“I hate that I have to have one it really sucks”

ControversyBrian presents escorting rate card matching a profile linked to Brena ($1800/hr coffee date, $3k lunch, $5k dinner, $8k overnight). Brena denies.

OtherAlexis discloses on-stream that ~13 years ago she was a bikini barista, calendar girl, and high-end escort. Says she was in a bad place, found faith, and takes accountability — contrasting with Brena who does not.

QuoteAfter being called a liar for the video, Brena says: "I actually thought you were going to like me when I came on here."

“I thought you were going to like me like as a person”

QuoteChris (51yo) shows old photo claiming she looks the same or better than 12 years ago. Brian says she looked better then.

OtherTwitch raid sent to "Well Grandma" — an 82-83yo woman playing World of Warcraft retail (level 83 character). Brian calls her a legend.

Topics Discussed

Opening announcements / show setup

Brian opens show from Santa Barbara. Standard announcements: Streamlabs donations, TTS ($200+), Discord (discord.gg/whatever), Twitch simulcast, merch, Instagram DMs for guests.

Guest introductions

All guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Order: Eva (20, LA, pre-law), Brena (28, Houston, lingerie/OnlyFans), Lindsay (20, music/DJ), Paula (36, Boston, ex-Marine/dog trainer), Lindsy (36, Orange County, sales director), Athena (36, Texas, homesteader), Chris (51, Tulsa, Pink Pill creator), Alexis (34, married, stay-at-home mom), Jake (28, Australian, Rattlesnake TV).

Relationship status round

Each guest describes relationship status and longest relationship. Notably: Chris is in a relationship (promise ring, ~1 year); Alexis is married (11 years); all others single. Paula and Lindsy revealed as old best friends reuniting after 19 years.

Disagreements with the show / media bias in dating discourse

Chris challenges the show for leaning too heavily on blaming women; Jake and Brian defend. Discussion of whether men have comparable dating flaws (porn addiction, doom scrolling, lack of ambition).

Tattoos — attractiveness, mental illness correlation, deal-breakers

Brian and panel discuss tattoos on women. 1990 study cited linking tattoos to mental disorders. Jake says tattoos near deal-breaker on women (would not want wife's body tattooed). Panel split. Face/neck tattoos are universal red flags.

Video games as a hobby — red flag?

Quick panel vote: is playing video games a male red flag? General answer: depends on frequency/severity. Basement-dweller scenario = deal-breaker.

Porn and relationships — is watching porn cheating?

Eva says watching porn is cheating (engaging in one-way sex act). Brena says OnlyFans subscriptions are different from regular porn. Panel mostly disagrees that porn = cheating. Jake: undesirable but not cheating. Jake compares women's social media attention-seeking to men's porn use.

Brena Black OnlyFans confrontation — "conservative God-fearing OnlyFans creator"

Brena introduced as "conservative and God-fearing OnlyFans creator." Panel presses contradiction with Christian faith. Debate on whether OnlyFans is sex work/prostitution. Brena says God does not judge her; Athena counters using Bible (stumbling block, lust as sin). Alexis reveals she had same contradictions in past (escort/recovery).

Partner preferences round — what do you want?

Each guest shares what they want in a partner. Brian gives his full list: natural body supremacist, introverted/quiet/modest, low body count, no drugs/bars/clubs, back scratches. Eva: taller, dry humor, open to McDonald's worker. Brena: Andrew Tate/Joe Rogan type. Lindsay: no self-filtering needed.

Red flags you would overlook

Round: Eva: guy having female best friend. Lindsay: colorful past. Paula: won't overlook anything. Lindsy: hygiene (chewing open-mouthed). Athena: own flaws she cannot hold double-standard on. Chris: thinks too many women call everything a red flag. Brena: past drug addiction, gambling, felonies (has overlooked). Jake: can't cook (fixable).

Politics discussion — women voting for Trump vs Kamala; 2024 election

Eva (Republican) says she voted Kamala Harris; panel pushes back hard. Debate on Trump's grab comment, border/immigration, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. endorsement cited. Women's right to vote debate (Jake/male guests argue women should be eligible for draft if they vote). Athena says most women at table are conservative-leaning.

Women's peak attractiveness / aging debate

Debate: is the average 35-year-old woman hotter than the average 25-year-old? All panelists say no except Chris (argues darker skin ages slower, shows old photo). Brian says stats peak between 20-24.

Brena Black video confrontation — tattoo evidence

Brian confronts Brena with video from Discord viewers showing woman with matching tattoo performing oral sex. Brena denies it is her throughout. Paula (ex-military analyst) examines video and confirms identity from tattoo, eyebrows, nose, hands. Brena claims deepfake. Jake calls her a liar. Panel concludes she is lying.

Eva — virgin, waiting for marriage, political science views

Brian goes through Eva's pre-show notes: virgin waiting until marriage (would not have sex even if certain she'd marry him). Prefers traditional relationship with provider husband. Would stay home if husband provided. Identifies as Republican but voting Kamala.

Brena escorting allegation

Brian presents escorting rate card ($1800/hr coffee, $3k lunch, $5k dinner, $8k overnight, $500+ island trips). Brena denies. Brian says 80% confident on escorting vs 100% confident on video.

Alexis reveals past as escort/bikini barista

After confronting Brena, Brian reveals Alexis disclosed in pre-show notes she was a bikini barista, calendar girl, and high-end escort ~13 years ago. Alexis says she acknowledges it was wrong, found faith, does not justify it. Brena says this is hypocritical given Alexis judged her.

Interracial dating / Chris's book "Swirling"

Chris discusses her 2012 book "Swirling" — advocated for Black women to date interracially. 42% Black women single at time. Notes Black men date interracially more. Argues all races should date whoever they want.

Charm school / etiquette argument

Chris argues women should bring back charm school etiquette. Notes guest on previous show stood up without considering on-camera exposure.

When to have sex — first date vs. commitment gatekeeping

Discussion of making men wait for sex. Brian: making a non-virgin wait sends mixed signal. Reddit post read: woman slept with FWB while making boyfriend wait; he blocked her when she confessed. Alexis: slept with husband 3 weeks in, told him she wanted to marry him. Jake: promiscuity of past affects partner value.

True rate me / physical attractiveness rating scale

Brian shows Reddit's "True Rate Me" women's rating primer (facial harmony, midface ratio, eye area, skin, features, bones). Panel discusses objectivity vs. subjectivity of physical ratings.

Age gap relationships

Debate on age gap relationships. Alexis argues optimal is same-age or man slightly older (can play with kids, share experiences). Chris: depends on stage of life; 18+45 has maturity gap. Jake: 5-10 year male-older gap is optimal. Athena: younger men struggle to lead older women. Examples: Ian Garry (UFC, 26+40yo), Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Macron.

Most challenging thing about dating as a single person

Round-table: each single guest describes biggest dating challenge. Eva: men not giving enough notice (last-minute date requests are auto-no). Athena: men resistant to non-physical rotational dating. Chris: people giving up too easily.

Dating apps — swiping strategies, roster/rotational dating

Debate on men mass-swiping vs. women being selective on dating apps. Brian prefers women who show high interest and cut other men after first date. Athena defends having 3-5 non-physical prospects simultaneously as single mom with limited time. Brian argues 52 sequential first dates > simultaneous roster.

Divorce rates by orientation / gay relationships

Brian cites statistic: divorce rates lowest for gay male couples, middle for heterosexual, highest for lesbian couples.

Bear vs. man in the forest / would-you-rather round

Would you rather encounter a random bear or random man in the forest? Eva, Athena, Chris, Lindsy: man. Lindsay and Brena declined/other. Joke round.

Closing / Twitch raid

Brian wraps show. Last call on likes. Twitch raid to "Well Grandma" (82/83yo WoW player). Show ends.

Transcript

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Chrisones can you tilt your mic down a little bit yeah I I can't think of any okay

ChrisEJ 19 maybe 18 years old he gave me a joint and it was the first first joint I'd ever had it was illegal at the time

Chrisobviously because this was in the '90s and we grew up watching all of those like don't do drugs like the skillet that you crack the egg on it this is your brain on drugs and so we're on the

Chrisdate he gave it to me I had a couple puffs and I got so paranoid I thought my brain would turn into a scrambled egg and so we were in Long Beach and I was running across the bridge trying to get

Christhe weed out of my system so I could be normal again and he was running after me going wait wait so yeah that was probably the most embarrassing

Brena/Paula/Alexismhm what about you um okay so like when me and my husband we had taken a break and then like when we we were not um we were dating at the time and then we got back together and my best friend kept

Brena/Paula/Alexisasking like when we were going to finally you know do the deed and um anyways when it finally happened I sent like a long detailed text to her the next day and realized that I

Brena/Paula/Alexisaccidentally sent it to his sister it was very embarrassing oh oh God and can you tell us the content of the text message yeah I was like oh we

Brena/Paula/Alexisfinally you know did it and it was really really great but then this embarrassing thing happened but he was really cool about it and I queef was it a queef no that's always

Brena/Paula/Alexisembarrassing did you get your period this is so awkward this is embarrassing um no it brought about um you know cycle and so yeah it was just really awkward

Brena/Paula/Alexisfor the that was awkward but telling his sister meaning to text yeah it's bad

Brena/Paula/Alexisokay uh is period sex awkward I wasn't though it didn't like it was the first time we had hooked up in a really long time and I wasn't expecting

Christhat so yeah it was awkward and it is absolutely awkward to have period sex disagreed disagree yeah uhhuh all right tell that to somebody who has fibroids

SPEAKER_05has what I'm sorry never mind I no I didn't hear you is there another topic we can talk you wanted the embarrassing story [Music]

Brian Atlasyeah so um let's see here good okay so we're going to go to uh Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't

Lindsaypick seven starting with you go ahead um six okay 9.87 okay all right troll answer but okay after hearing what you had to say I

Lindsayhave to change my answer to what did you say last time I said a nine because I'm confident and I'm still working on myself that's why I don't think I'm a 10 but I'm going to switch it to eight like

Lindsaynot that I got lower or lower confidence since last time but I can never stop improving so yeah what about you I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to say eight okay 6.5 is five supposed to be the middle so using this scale five would be average five would be average than two

Brena/Paula/Alexisokay I'm going to say a five I'm Just Your Average 51y old black girl mhm okay um yeah this is a hard question being pregnant and stuff but I would say

Brian Atlasprobably like 5.5 I think you're higher than that girl you're giv life six I give myself a

Brian Atlasfive uh okay so you gave yourself a 9.87 uh stiffer has a follow-up question uh total face body so break it down total face body so 9.87 total uh what do

Brian Atlasyou do uh for face what do you do for body body I have to add those up to equal that I don't no just maybe you say my face is a nine my body is a 10

Brena/Paula/Alexissomething I don't know my face is a nine I think my body's a 10 what was the other just that's it all right going

Brian Atlasaround the table once more uh do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time starting with you I will be 30 so no okay you're 28 do

Brena/Paula/Alexisyou think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 38 yes cuz I really put a lot of emphasis on my health okay uh what about 20 years time yes so 48

Brian Atlasbetter looking 48 yeah uh 30 years time better looking at 58 yeah than you are now at 28 mhm okay 40 years time better looking at

Brena/Paula/Alexis68 no but I think like going back I'd probably be like equal to what I am now at 68 at 68 you'll be equal no at 58 I think 68 I'll probably start getting

Brena/Paula/Alexissome wrinkles at 68 you'll start getting some wrinkles yeah um so but 38 equal or better looking I think I'll always be

Brena/Paula/Alexisequal if not better because of everything I do for my health which is what I do a lot of biohacking like red light therapy I exercise a lot I eat a

Brian Atlasperfect diet I don't eat any seed oils okay and uh are you better looking now at 28 than when you were uh when you

Brian Atlaswere at 18 100% 100% okay um so equal looking uh 28 compared to 38 48 58 mhm

Jakeokay so in 30 years time just as good-look yeah you won't have any wrinkles probably very few ve very few wrinkles at 58 yeah generally speaking

Jakewhen do you think women are most attractive whenever they feel like they're most attractive but generally speaking on a global sense when thinking about how the world thinks about it not how they feel younger yeah so when you're talking about it are you talking

Brena/Paula/Alexisabout in the way that the world sees it or the way that you subjectively see it well it's it's hard to say because when I was 18 I didn't I was by the world standards not as attractive as I am

Jakenow but you you can you can be aware of that though right you can say that you're more attractive now I haven't seen you at 18 maybe you were fat when you were 18 or something like that but you you can when you're saying that

Jakeyou're going to be as attractive in 30 years mhm are you saying that from the way that the world sees you or the way that you see you saying that from the way the world sees me you genuinely think that you as a 58-year-old woman will be as attractive as you are as a

Jake28y old woman yeah I think the same number of guys will still want me or I think I'll be as desired I think that that kind of makes a lot of sense to me when you say that because the whole uh delaying or like not wanting to have a

Jakefamily wanting to put career first and wanting to sort of ride this wave of the lre stuff that you've got going on on it makes total sense when you think about it in the sense that you think you're going to be still hot in 30 years the fact of the matter is that nobody's

Jakereally hot at 58 and as a woman ages you you need to age gracefully because if you're 58 trying to hold on to being hot you're going to be very very unhappy but if you're 58 and you've got a family and you get your value through being a

Jakemother and and through these sorts of things then you can actually maintain a lot of value and dignity and these things but if you're trying to be hot and that's your number one goal

Brena/Paula/Alexisa model I I'll have a company I'll be running the company I'll hire models um and I hope that I do have that for myself I hope I have it all loving husband family

Brian Atlasbusiness I hope I hope for you too for sure um let's see here so one sec guys uh oh what about you better looking in

Lindsay10 years time I think I'm going to peek in like 5 years and then I 5 10 years so like 30 and then like you kind of just said I think I won't I hopefully won't care as much like I

Lindsaystill want to put effort into like maintaining health and all of that but less worry about like dressing like you know I feel like I dress like a normal 20-year-old so what was the answer You'

Brena/Paula/Alexisthink you'll be I think I'll peek in like 5 10 years sure sure um I'm

Brena/Paula/Alexisdefinitely in better shape now than I was 10 years ago so in my 20s um I think in my 40s I hope that I will still be in

Brena/Paula/Alexisgood shape and I'm I'm good at taking care of my body and then after that it's just the natural progression of things stuff is going to be loose and I'm going to have wrinkles and that's okay just a

Lindsypart of growing and maturing mhm I mean youth is beautiful but so we're all the stages um I think I was definitely at my Peak

Lindsyat 28 right or 28 I just aged myself at 26 and at 36 I mean I think at 46 I will be better

Lindsythan 36 just cuz I'm hard on myself with you know I'm I'm working on on do you think you be trying to trying to maintain though or trying

Jaketo trying to be better um a little bit of both so maintain um it's quite it's quite a bar to set yourself to be more attractive

Lindsywhen you're 46 I think it's um like not that I'm I'm not sitting here and saying oh my God I I hate my body but I am doing a little bit different you know

Lindsywith how I'm taking care of my body and what I put into it um make America healthy again um honestly and you know I

Lindsywas pregnant and I had a child that was you know that was a huge huge huge transition um and so I well you guys

Lindsyhaven't seen my mom so she's beautiful I very blessed so I I do look a lot like her and I just I'm not trying to maintain in a pressuring standpoint it's

Lindsymore so just like my personal goals within myself but if I were to look at a whole figure you know how does how does everyone else see me well of course the youth is the younger you are the more

Lindsyattractive you are period doesn't matter what you get done so um on that end going all the way up obviously even for guys as well I mean you look at like

Jakeyoung Johnny Depp you know oh I disagree I think that man aging don't you think like physically just in terms of like the the athetic attractiveness don't you think that guys tend to not like maybe

Lindsyin their 30s they can be really good-looking but in their 40s and 50s you think they get they get better looking um depending on the the person George Clooney okay I'm not attracted men of his age but if I were to take

Jakeyounger George cloney and George Clooney now he is far more attractive in my eyes now like he's an anomaly though and do you think generally guys tend to let themselves go a little bit as they get older they can't hold muscle mass as

Lindsywell if if their face gets a little bit more wrinkly but I think I think I think age looks well on men though even if they I'd say it definitely look better

Lindsyon men some wrinkles and like facial hair gray hair you know um ask me when I was younger sure you know of course like I would think that way but I don't enjoy

Lindsynot so not so much for women well no that's what I'm saying I'm I'm I'm giving you my opinion on like me and where I'm at right now of course when I

Brian Atlaswas like 18 I got to interrupt things here a little bit uh so going to you really quick uh Brena right yes do you have another o that goes something along

Brian Atlascan you show me your tattoo on your arm here

Brian Atlashuh uh you do you have another off something brinkly have you gone by that name that was it used to be the name of the one we already

Brian Atlasdiscussed I just changed the name you've never done any boy girl content

Brian Atlasno well somebody just sent me a video of you doing precisely that boy girl content so are you going to continue lying or you just going to fess up that you're pretty much just lying about everything no I'm not lying I've never

Brian Atlasdone boy go content there's literally a video of you do I need to like do you want to play it it's not my video can't I mean it's

Brian Atlasmatching tattoo no Never filmed videos like that it's literally your you just

Brena/Paula/Alexisadmitted that it was your only fans tag yes but I've never filmed boy girl content is this some loophole like the guy filmed it no I've never done that so

Brian Atlasyou're just going to continue lying even though I have was it girl girl I'm going to show it to Jak can tell me what he I can't have on the [ __ ]

SPEAKER_04um M that's what I'm saying all right Jake she around uh is this her you see the

Jaketattoo the tattoo looks

ChrisTim there's nothing happening yet by the way guys just let you know you see the face this is so awkward it's a good time to get up and go to the bathroom water

Jakeyeah yeah that's

Jakeenough yeah well the it's it's actually a little bit hard to tell you could kind of see your face and what was about to happen but oh something was about to happen yeah it was really really about I've Never filmed boy girl content not a

Jakeporn star did it go longer and you just didn't watch it or it was yeah I didn't I didn't see the rest but I'll take Bri's word for it I

Brian Atlasmean this is [ __ ] you bro like I don't know why you're lying about it I'm not lying I've never had a sex tape could it been someone like screen

Brian Atlasrecording it and like I don't have anything like that okay bro I mean it's just like why are you [ __ ] lying about it it's kind of annoying I'm

Brian Atlasnot lying okay so the video depicts you giving uh uh filatio I think is the term to a male you've never had a video of you doing that

Brian Atlasno do you want to just stop [ __ ] gaslighting and just admit it no I've never filmed a video like that then how does this video exist I'm not

Brian Atlassure all right well uh this guy he gave me a thumbs up he says it's you I mean I don't know what else to say show us your tattoo

Brian Atlasagain yeah that's you all right you're a [ __ ] liar um okay well okay cool whatever bra why don't you just [ __ ]

Brian Atlasadmit it like it's so [ __ ] weird when girls come on and do this [ __ ] but whatever I didn't do that all right I'm just not going to

Brian Atlasengage I'm not even going to engage with this um so where did we leave off do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time this way well I didn't hear the answer so um I think in my 40s yes

Brian Atlasso you're 36 will you you'll be better looking up 46 yes better looking at 56 20 years time and then you're 36 were you're better looking at 26 no so better looking now at 36 than you were at 26

Lindsyyes okay and then going to you you're also 36 better looking in 10 years time youthful is into better youthful is better but for me yes I think that at

Lindsythis point in time at 46 I will look better to what I want to look at so you'll look better at 46 but not to society younger would be always better

Lindsy20 years time better better younger yeah in the uh 20 years time will you be better looking at 56 at 46 566 20 years time no won't look

Brian Atlasbetter looking okay and were you better looking at 26 than you're now at 50 at 36 excuse me oh my goodness yeah no so you're better looking now I'm no I'm better looking at 26 you're better

Athenalooking at 26 okay then you um I think you're typically better looking when you're younger I think I was better looking when I was 26 but I have been on a weight loss Journey so I think by 46

Brian AtlasI'll probably look better than I am right now assuming that you uh let's just say you had a perfect body fat percentage your entire life uh would you be better

Brian Atlaslooking younger younger okay and then she's up we we'll go to you uh you're 34 better looking in 10 years time at 44 no and then you're 34 were you better

Brian Atlaslooking at 24 than you are now at 34 um probably some days yes okay all right some delusion here I guess

Brian Atlasum regarding the ratings the delusion uh I don't really recall the ratings I don't think it was too delusional on the ratings but the whole right better looking as you get older pretty

Athenadelusional but oh no I meant that yeah the only thing I I know that it if you're just looking at looks but I I

Athenathink whenever I see women especially moms and I just think that there's Beauty in that after they've had you know kids and the more kids that they

Jakehave it's just something there there is something beautiful about that but but I I do agree with the physical part of it I'd say it's more value the word you're looking for is the value of woman wisdom and you know fulfilling maternal duties

Brena/Paula/Alexisand all that sort of thing makes it's very attractive yeah but like physically to the rest of the world I mean every I've had yeah physical attractive is very different

Brian Atlasabsolutely all right um yeah just kind of interesting that people don't realize how aging works but I don't know um why can't people just be like yeah people

Athenaare typically better looking when they're younger you know who said that H who said that that you don't or that you're not um better

Brian Atlaslooking when you're younger uh several females here at the panel said that they were they're in their Prime now in their mid-30s and then they said

Lindsythey would be even better looking in their 40s okay I don't think I'm in my Prime now I just think that my personal goals that I have is going to flourish

Lindsyme when I am 46 versus how I feel right now in my your personal goals are what my personal goals within like my fitness or my body as an individual but Society

Lindsyspeaking I'm not if we were to go on that end youthful is more attractive and I know that so I mean I do have two different answers because I can't speak for society I can only speak for myself

Brena/Paula/Alexison that end so if I'm going to rate myself that's how that's what it is goe I mean I guess that's also kind of the reason why I said what I said I was a mom a very young mom um my kids are a little bit older so at 26 I was very

Brena/Paula/Alexistired overweight had a toddler and a baby um didn't have time to go to the gym take care of myself all that stuff so I do feel physically better now that my kids are older and I have the ability to

Brena/Paula/Alexisget through all of those things that I need for myself to take care of myself what that I was but I was like using hard drugs when I was in my early 20s and I still can look back and see I mean

Brena/Paula/AlexisI feel like I've probably gone wrinkle just sitting at this table like I can still look back and see that you know even then at least for male attention

Brena/Paula/Alexisyou know you there's something just with youth that guys equate to Beauty more than anything else 26 I was fantastic was doing just fine I said five years

Lindsaylater but I'm also 20 so I mean I'm working on my health I would say mid 20s is that's yeah stats say that it's uh between 20 and 24 is when a woman is

Brian Atlasmost physically attractive so the studies say in terms of what guys find most attractive that's fair physically well let me change the question a little bit uh do you think that the average 35y

Brian Atlasold woman is hotter than the average 25-year-old woman no no no going around the table

Jakeno no no no it depends on the race you're too far from the mic sorry it it depends on the race with these reverse aging people I'd

Chrislike to them because no it's not that it's reverse aging it's just that the darker skin you have you age more slowly do you age still yes you do but you age more slowly in

Chriscomparison more old in 10 years that's not what the question was yeah it's bad attractiveness and age generally tends to equate to attractiveness yes but if you compare a 25-year-old white girl and

Chrisa 35y old black woman if we Aver years they're not the same person though yeah you're it's just based on one person oh it's based on one person Oh I thought you were just talking about the average

Jakethe average atin can you uh close the doors even if you had to even if you had to sort of equal it out between all the races a on average do you think that there would be no I think that there is

Chrisa difference I do I think you think the average 25-year old black girl is is more attractive than the average 35y old black girl no I would say it was pretty much the same and um you could you know

Chrisyou could test me on it it's just the way it is I'm 51 yeah that's crazy yeah you look good for what's what's the point about you being 51 I don't know you look amazing but you're

Chrissaying you didn't look better at 25 no I'm not saying we're not talking about me um I don't think that I look better when I was 25 but what I'm saying is is that it depends on your skin it depends

Chrison your phenotype um the darker skin you have the the slowly you age and you can look but is there a race that reverse ages though because we're talking about

Chrisbeing more attractive when you're 35 than you were when you're 25 saying that it' be on par I'm saying that a 25-year-old and a 35-year-old um with

Chrisdarker skin would be on par I actually sent Brian a picture of me 12 years ago and you could see how I look 12 years ago and it's not that

Lindsaydifferent when you see that difference you picture you see it can you pull it thaton the picture granted I think I took a look at the photo it's uh

Brian Atlas[Music] um a little looks a little touched up but um yeah but that was me when I was like

Chris30 something I would say I look better now actually erroneous I mean that's what I'm saying you want the truth yeah you look better

Brian Atlasthere I think you look now we don't have to well okay she can still look pretty now but I mean we're doing a comparison here good for 51 very good for 51 but there you're stunning but different come

Chrison yeah I don't like I said it it's what I what I say still stands um science backs it up okay all right we're going to get into uh some of the pre-show notes here

Brian Atlasfinally so let's see here Where Do We Begin why don't we go back to uh Eva did I say it right Eva Eva you can

Brian Atlassay whatever you want people call me all okay all we talked about this last show with a different pronunciations gets people in trouble uh let's see uh you you're a virgin uh and you said you find

Brian Atlasit pretty uncomfortable when the man is has a high body count so I avoid dating people like that MH um I'm a little confused you said like uh what are you waiting on for marriage or yeah okay so

Brian Atlasyou will not even if it's like the guy you're like I know I'm going to marry this guy you'll still wait until you're married to have sex yeah okay so you are waiting on until marriage just to be clear yo kai thank you for the gift at

Brian Atlas20 Subs really appreciate thank you man uh okay and um was this uh an issue in your previous relationship like was he

Brian Atlaswanting to have sex or no okay he was on board with it okay uh let's see you said you date to Mary mhm you prefer more traditional relationship you'd like your husband to

Brian Atlasbe a provider uh if you're going to have children with him you intend to on pursuing a career but I don't want it to be necessary you said you wanted to be an attorney correct mhm okay uh

Brian Atlascorporate attorney was that right you just prefer for it to be beneficial as in I would not like for the household income to depend on me but I wouldn't mind adding to it I think that social media has exacerbated an issue within

Brian Atlasthe dating world I will not go on a date if man does not give me enough notice asking the night before or day of is immediate no okay no quarrels with that part let's go into the you prefer more traditional relationships you want your

Brian Atlashusband to be a provider if your husband had the means and so uh let's say he was a high earner and he said well I don't

Evawant you to work would you go along with that um yeah I think so if I if I thought that my kids could go through

Brian Atlascollege and get cars and yeah let's assume they could yeah then no 100% okay so even though you do have some career aspirations M if your husband was

Brian Atlascapable of providing providing uh to a degree where you could stay home you'd be fine with that mhm okay I don't think there's any quarrels there uh maybe the only Coral I don't know if it's even that big of a concern

Brian Atlasfor me although Andrew would probably like it uh you do you consider yourself traditional in all regards like are you conservative or um

Evadidn't she say she was voting for cam CA I'm I'm a republican but I am voting for kamla because I don't like Trump what you could just not vote yeah please you

Evasaid you do um political science what what is your political persuasion what you say what do you mean I just said that I was a Republican or what do you mean why why don't you like Trump um

Evabecause I think he's a threat to our democracy how because he tried to overthrow the government how did he try and do that by like storming the capital that's not a normal is MSNBC your favorite news Outlet did Trump storm the

Lindsycapital himself he encouraged his followers to how tweeting it when did he tweet to storm the capital he he tweeted it can

Lindsyyou quote it exactly what he said bation he said but he did that well that would be the medum he said um no I can't he said he said we're going to go

Brian Atlasdown to and we're going to be peacefully marching that's what he said and wait why would you vote like if you don't like Trump that's one thing but why would you vote for a Dem rat if you're a republican right because I think she's a

Brian Atlasgood option and I think she has um the potential to improve our country so just to be clear it's not it's not that you just don't want to vote for Trump and that you just don't like uh no it's not

Brian Atlasjust that I don't like like you want her you want her in there over Trump essentially and she's a Democrat but you're a republican

Evamhm I think it's possible not like particular representative I don't think he's a good representative so what do you think about the fact that she didn't have to uh be nominated she just kind of

Lindsygot forced I do think that's an interesting like loophole I don't I don't know if that's completely valid it 100% is valid that's the the only way she got into office was here she goes no

Evaone voted her in well but that's how that works when the president steps down the vice president steps up and that's this isn't about that this is about the election let me ask a couple questions and the president is still the president of the United States right now uh your

Evaposition on gun ownership um I think people should be able to have guns okay uh your position on abortion um I think people should be able to have abortions if they want them

Brian Atlasokay your position on uh are you in favor of uh like drag queens reading stories to

Brian Atlaschildren in school are trans women women um

EvaI don't know I don't I think it's a trans women women like a man that that did what I think she just doesn't want to get canceled online but

Evashe's saying what is what what is a woman um something that's born a woman I think but without using the word woman can you give a definition it's biological has ovaries uterus okay so

Jakethen would a transwoman a biological male who transitions to be to be becoming a woman would that be a

Brian Atlaswoman no okay um what economic model do you prefer capitalism or communism capitalism [Music]

Brian Atlasokay Republican I've never heard I'm a republican but I'm voting for I mean I look I can understand like you have objections to Trump or whatever but I could understand saying I'm I'm not going to V but he's but he's dropped out now but

Evaif I could understand that buta that's she's like she's OPP I mean why just not vote because I don't want to sacrifice the vote for Trump I don't like Trump you live in California don't

Brian Atlasyou yeah I mean she's going to get the she's going to get the popular vote in California anyways I I just not not contribute isn't it like but you want to do a disservice to your own party that

Chrisyou claim you are I think it's a disservice to elect Trump because of the she has a right to she has a right to who she wants to vote for I mean she's in everyone a

Lindsyright free country ask these question we fre country look at our world right look at the nation right now not answering those questions what affecting our is affecting our world and sure she's

Lindsayallowed sure she's allowed to V whatever want we live in we live in America she could do whatever she wants but we're allowed to this is a discussion about who she's voting for she seems pretty Resolute that's all I'm saying think I think I think I think you can be swayed

Brena/Paula/AlexisI think she can be I think she I think you could be SED I think you've had too much programming from or t talk do you think that Biden the past four years did

Brena/Paula/Alexisbetter than Trump cuz we already had him and you know he didn't threaten the democra I think Trump did good at all compared to Biden compared to Biden do you maybe just not know like the

Chrisstatistics butala and that's okay but it's better to say that instead of comp and amazing wonderful what she supposed to do the same way Mike Pence backed up

Evaeverything Trump did we wouldn't want Mike Pence pres and Cala now because I'm a republican doesn't mean I need to blindly follow everybody in the party there's like distinctions that you can make about the values of you're for but it's like okay I'm not going to vote for

Lindsysomebody who says he's going to grab women by the [ __ ] that's like see all the things that you are saying profile do not do not have anything to do with being a leader of the country when you

Jakeare weighing out the facts of the best for the American people people do you I think Katie Hopkins said it best when she said I'd rather have someone grab me by the [ __ ] than have a [ __ ] for president literally I would rather have a Woman for president than I would never

Evano why would you rather have a Woman for president I'm responding to what you said you said that somebody said they would rather be grabed by the [ __ ] I would not rather be sexually assaulted

Jakethan have a female represent the country [ __ ] for president like a like a like a coward sort of thing like a bad a bad leader you know like somebody who's not a strong leader is what they're

Jakesaying it was the contents of the do you think that Kam Harris is is genuinely like a a good political strategist and somebody somebody who is has the kind of mind and the kind of qualities that

Evacould run a country in a competent way um I don't know if I know like enough about her to say that entirely but know like from what you've seen what

Jakeare some of the strong points what do you like about it you guys are so putting me on the spot for my you said you don't want to blindly follow Trump and it kind of seems like you're blindly followinga I

Evatried um I'm not blindly following comma I've seen things that she said and I agree with things she says I think like what like the abortion thing but you

Lindsyguys are going to get on my ass about saying that I'm Pro pro-choice or just give your your views on it and just let the conversation flow because you could say I could say something or

Lindsyany of us could say something and you can come right back and say you disagree with it but to make such a strong

Lindsystatement like I'm a republican but I'm voting for for Kamala Harris that is me me hearing that I'm like what like

Evathat's a that's a big deal when it's somebody who really really values if you understand your politics correctly I I do understand my politics correctly that's where this entire panel that's talking to you about it is trying to

Evaunderstand your reasoning because that doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense to vote a sexual assaulter into office either do you reckon that

Jakeis even if that were true do you think that that would um affect the way he runs a country and leads the country and the way he talks with Russia and the way he talks with China and the way he doesn't get people into into Wars and the way he treats the border and the

Evaeconomy and the way he treats the education system and taxes yeah yes you think that it affects all of that yes don't you do political science mhm how does it affect that mhm it affects the way he feels about an entire gender if

Jakehe is sexually assaulting people then he so what I said was how does it affect the Border how does affect his relationship with Putin and x and Kim Jong-un and it affect economics and education as well that's what it has to

Jakedo with okay but it all ties together these are how does how does that particular thing the one I mean by by the way that's not a very um heinous comment if you ever if you hear the way the the guys talk when girls aren't

Jakearound it's really nothing unfortunately have to accept that because it's not you don't have to accept I know that you you guys probably wouldn't with your girlfriends you guys say some ratchet [ __ ] by the way I know what you girls get up to behind behind

Jakeclosed doors you guys say some crazy [ __ ] about my character knowing I'm just saying girls in general okay maybe you're a perfect little angel who has never said anything bad in your life and if you are then AB I'd be very very

Jakeproud to be in this room with you right now but me I'm not and when guys get together when we're behind closed doors in Boise situations [ __ ] gets a bit wild and

LindsyTrum and I don't want to say like do I love what came out of his mouth or what has been said absolutely not but if I have to put on the

Lindsytable of my future my son's future and weighing out the pros and cons between Camala Harris and Donald Trump being president take away all of the opinion

Lindsystuff take away all of the bad mouthing stuff and you don't know their names you 100% would never go for Camala Harris over Trump with the

Lindsypolicies and the better good or I'm Excuse me greater good for the country when it come our border we

Lindsyare the amount of American people that are not able to take care of their own livelihood

Lindsybecause of the immigration system and and I don't know what words I can say so I'm trying to articulate as best as I can illegal aliens illegal aliens there we go now do I have a problem with

Lindsypeople coming in you know coming from other countries no just do it the right way same way we all have to do if we want to go to town we got to go get a passport we have to go through the process same with you know I could have

Lindsycome on the Mexican border it would have been easier for me he's he's he's a legal alien well I'm actually a tourist technically oh well he's a CH so did you have to get a visa to come here I'm just curious I did it's very difficult as

Jakewell you guys have a very robust immigration system unless you go through the Souther so weird that when you're trying to do things legally it takes like seven times was trying to get citizenship here but then it would have cost me like 50 Grand to do it with

Jakelawyers and accountants and setting everything up you got free healthare if you just walked through I think that I'd be a pretty productive citizen but instead they've got freaking jaier just coming in from and that's the thing and

Lindsyit's really unfortunate and there's there's so much more you know look at and like you were saying about um Robert kendi is like he the speech he gave when

Lindsyhe was endorsing Trump I teared up and it was because like he articulated his words so profoundly when it came to talking about what our children are eating what's going on in our in big

LindsyPharma what's going on in our Health Care Systems and for him to to for him to endorse Trump regardless if it was like a no choice is huge because he's

Lindsyalso going in with such a strong role coming from an incredible belief system we need that we don't have that when it comes to Tim walson and Camala Harris

Lindsyand these are just the little factors that are displayed on mainstream media but even if you go deeper into it take away the opinions take away from feeling offended personally you weigh out the

Lindsypros and cons Donald Trump and going with Trump is 1,000% better for you you better for me better for the entire American people anyways I don't think we're going to convince her but uh I do

Brian Atlasprobably listening right he might be I do have some uh little more details about Brena over here uh Brena just a

Brian Atlascouple questions watch anything else uh wait Brena how tall how tall are you 5'7 5'7 okay

Brian Atlasum does the name uh did you used to go by Christy No Christy Derek

Brian Atlasno okay so you used to do escorting no the pl no look it might not be 100% confirmed

Brian Atlashere but I've the same people who sent me the video it's your it's your matching tattoo they're also claiming that you were involved in escorting oh my God I don't know why somebody would

Brian Atlasbe claiming that in which you were charging $1,800 for a 1hour coffee date 3,000 for a lunch date 5,000 for a dinner date

Brian Atlas8,000 for a overnight date plus 500 trip to the islands 500 plus for couples [Music]

Lindsayum are you also going to deny this also yeah so you were not involved in escorting at all right now what was this on I'm just curious did someone just

Brena/Paula/Alexistext you there or was it like a on paper type of thing just curious fair when people just submit a comment and then you call me a liar about it cuz somebody on the internet wants to say that I mean

Brian AtlasI literally it's literally a video the first video the escorting stuff I'm still not 100% on the video is of you with the ex show you can show us your

Brian Atlastattoo again this is not AI my tattoo huh seen my tattoo that's not adding to the situation okay you are giving a male

Brian Atlasfellatio but you're denying that it's you you claimed that you had not done porn or any bo uh boy girl content so I mean that is it's fair to assume that you're lying it's fair to assume that you're also lying about the

Brian Atlasescorting this is going to be a stale mate yeah I'm not I mean I'm not going to pursue it long I'll post the I can't do it right now because I don't have Discord on my laptop I'll post all the if you guys want uh discord.gg whatever

Brian AtlasI'll post the evidence after the show obviously we can't show it on stream right now but um you're just not even going to cop um well whatever evidence you're saying there is here hold on here's okay

Brena/Paula/Alexishere's what I'm going to do I'm going to show you the photo I I don't appreciate you threatening put that on the internet I know I signed a release so you probably can but that's false information how is it false here here's

Brena/Paula/Alexisreally awful to do to somebody who is starting a business to claim you're going to put a false escorting ad out there of me well I already said that I already said it's dubious hold on I was going to post the other thing which you're lying about I'm a young

Brian Atlasentrepreneur and that is not fair to post some Claim about me well it's not fair for you to come on the show under false pretenses and make all these claims that are just bogus and false I feel like I'm being very true to myself

Brian Atlasand very truthful in everything I believe in and and I couldn't be more honest on this show I'm coming here completely open on my thoughts even though people disagree about this is total gaslighting I'm coming here being

Brena/Paula/Alexishonest but you're denying I'm not trying to Gaslight you're literally denying the truth why is it why is it to say that somebody in the comments is telling the truth and I'm not there's literally a

Brena/Paula/Alexisvideo my eyes do not deceive me there's a video of you your tattoo showing there's nothing even happening in this video so I don't know what you're talking about he saw the video you showed it to him and he said something looked like it was about to happen there

Jakewas start of a video it's a girl in a hoodie a girl with a tattoo like that and I'm taking Brian's word about what happens next but I'll also take your word I don't really care too much I guess we can all just take each other's word like yeah let's do that wait is

Brena/Paula/Alexisthere face in it in the video yep okay face is in the video tattooos is in the video have you heard of what's called Deep fake I have I have millions of followers across all platforms I wouldn't be

Brena/Paula/Alexissurprised if somebody makes false allegations about me but I'm asking from person guy can you see the the picture of the guy nobody wants to look at the guy no do not po that of me on a Discord though

Brena/Paula/Alexisis what I'm saying it's not I thought it's not you no the escorting thing don't put that about me on the inter that's not what I was going to put up okay is the guy's face on there uh I don't know how that's

Athenarelevant but no it's not okay well I was thinking if you could find out if it's a friend or not sounds pretty obscure

Brian Atlasso um okay I mean why do you want me why do you want that to be true so badly well I don't appreciate people coming on the podcast

Brena/Paula/Alexisand lying about things I'm not lying about anything I've been very open about everything you've asked

Jakeme it's going to be a stalemate you have to agree to disagree take your word for it Brian uh you can investigate further Alvin Sam ladies have you read it Ladies

EvaIf a woman aborts is the husband morally Justified for divorcing her and not paying alimony emphasis on the alimony serious answers please last year DeSantis eliminated permanent alimony and do you want me to be the

Evafirst to answer that uh yeah sure um I think if the husband didn't want the abortion then yeah 100% okay

Brena/Paula/Alexisgoing around the table go ahead oh I'm so I'm so like distracted by the previous ation what were we saying okay skip what about you uh 1

Athenamillion per. mhm yes yeah I think he's morally Justified absolutely

Brian Atlasmhm um yeah I I I guess I would say yes aan Sam thank you for the Super Chat man really appreciate it we have pelagic

Brian Atlashere the blame shift typical Truth Hurts believe this is directed towards you um I believe so sounds directed towards

Brian Atlasme I mean it kind of just like honestly if you just said I feel like if you had just said yeah I used to do BG stuff but I don't do it anymore or whatever but like the fact that you denied it just invited a bunch of people to be like no

Jakeactually Brian she lied to your [ __ ] face and it just invited people to investigate the false us to do content like that I've been I've been a model I can see why You' feel cuz I think Brian

JakeI think of the seven shows that I've done I think we've had three girls who have told like really egregious lies and then we've kind of backtracked and felt sorry for them and one of them was crying and everything we're like okay cool let it go whatever and then it

Jakecomes out that they're lying it's like now then we look like the [ __ ] so it's it's it's impossible in this situation because if we don't know 100% the truth then somebody looks like looks like a [ __ ] you know so okay well I

Brian Atlasmean I'm receiving substantial amount of evidence from a couple people here so uh escorting links I mean the escorting

Brena/Paula/Alexisthing I'm still not 100% on although it appears fairly certain I'm sure people use my photos on the internet all the time I have millions of photos when yeah

Brian Atlasthat's why I'm still not 100% on the whole es escorting component which is why I asked you but I mean to deny the video which exists of you fting a man where you're your uh tattoo actually saw

Lindsaythis in the video you sat there and watched that yeah somebody sent it to me it took me 1 minute while we were the thing with defix is you can change no I'm saying the thing with defix is you can only change their face you couldn't

Lindsayadd the tattoo exact same tattoo that's what I'm saying you can't change only your face so a deep F wouldn't even make sense for this it would have to be true yep I mean that's if it own it and tell

Lindsythe story cuz I want to know what is it I said if it happened just own it and tell the story no it didn't happen Okay I

Brian Atlasmean I don't even know how to early approach like you call someone out for lying and they just won't fess up it's like what do you do it's like okay they'll just continue on with the facade

Evabut okay uh can I have you read this one go ahead for the love of God all the [ __ ] idiots voting for the Democrats and their current dangerous ideologies are going to realize when they grow up what a terrible mistake they made hm

JakeNorthern Alberta kid I'm assuming he's from Canada thank you man appreciate the uh message Austin can you open up the do of the biggest problems plaguing America right now if you had to put your finger on a few

TTS Readerissues when you're looking at it in the political sense purely emotion aside just political issues that you would like and well met LOL paladins donated $200

TTS Readerand2 Jake since you want to White night for the who so much let's change the subject Jake what your thoughts about Mason getting your sloppy seconds sorry sorry white nighing is

Jakevery different to just wanting to move the [ __ ] on first of all um and uh I don't know what you're what you're talking about who Mason is

Brian Atlasso shout out to Mason all right thank you L paladins for the uh TTS um J you had a question for yeah so in terms of your overall like

Jakewhat political issues your your concerned about what what do you think um yeah what what are the two or three issues that you'd be wanting to see

Athenacleared up this election um homelessness and Drug crisis and I don't think that can be cleared up in this like election that will not be cleared up with Kamala that

Jakewill only get worse CU been it's literally gotten so much worse so she's done a lot of her work in in California California is one the hubs of

Jakethe of the entire well probably the Hub of America in Los Angeles for homelessness and the drug crisis this is a big Bureau big business in America kinkycore Christian donated

TTS Reader$200 I think it was a deep throat not a deep fake just say that was kind of funny this is kind of

Brian Atlaslike thank you kinky Christian it's it's it's almost like the stri and effect by denying it or like trying to hide it or suppress it it just kind of

Lindsaylike amplifies it and just makes it worse but it makes it like I said I don't judge people on their pths I mean like I don't care if you did it anyway and you were like I did it but if you did I'm you know obviously you're the

Lindsayonly one who knows like I haven't seen it but to just be like hey I did this I [ __ ] up I wish I didn't or you know the thing is it's it's hard though CU you don't know if it's an act or not it could just be like she could just be

Jakedoing an act the whole time to try and get people over to the only fans so the more come you think she'd want to promote well yeah I mean the more drama the more drama the more we talk about so I think it's best if we just move on from it because this is honestly you

Brena/Paula/Alexisnever know on this show these girls have a good poker face when someone is just lying to your face agreed I actually didn't come on here to promote my only fans I didn't want it to be brought up

Brena/Paula/Alexisand I actually didn't even want to get on only fans I started it very like late in the game what did you come on here to do to do then um CU I love the podcast and I like everybody on the panel I knew

Jakeit' be a great discussion and did you come on here to promote your laund business and then your only fans is what's feeding your well I didn't really want to mention it but I want to you're [ __ ] liar you're [ __ ] liar if you

Lindsaydidn't want to mention it why' you DM him and say that you did only fans I didn't DM him and said I did only fans oh you just found that when she described okay then no literally hold on

Brian Atlasyour first your uh I believe your first message was one moment here sorry guys let getting this pulled up

Brian Atlasyou said you are a sorry guys holy [ __ ] there's way too many notes what the [ __ ] how many [ __ ] notes are there godd

Brian Atlasdamn where is it sorry guys let me play this while it's [ __ ] one eternity later am I just

Brian Atlas[ __ ] skipping over it am I like is there you said you're a conservative and God-fearing only fans Creator literally like the first thing you said to us oh I

TTS Readerdid mention only fans Hills of Beverly donated $200 of of ran and Carter snake move on it's just like here's the thing like I've had girls who've come on the show and

Brian Atlasthey're like hey I used to do this in my past but I'd like rather not it be brought up and I'll actually accommodate them but like if you don't ask for that accommodation and then if I'm asking you

Brian Atlasa question related to what you do do and then you just lie then it just opens up room for like I don't need any accommodations exploration of are you lying then it's

Brena/Paula/Alexisit's free game whatever you'd like to discuss with me is fine okay well except your past of sucking dick on camera I don't have a

Brian Atlaspast of that okay all right I mean there's a video of it you deny it whatever um so back to my notes I guess um I need to try to get through the

Brian Atlasnotes here because there's a lot so why don't we go to uh who first crystalin creator of the pink pill self-improvement for black women uh that's me you're in a relationship

Brian Atlasleading to marriage there there was tell us briefly there's a old guy who offered you $7,500 on your first date what's the

Chrisstory there yeah first date um older gentleman uh uh I told him that I wanted to launch a business a body care line

Chrisand uh he really wanted to date me and he said that's a Mitzvah I will help you and um wrote me a check deposited in my well he deposited

Chrisin my my bank account and if you know yeah that might be a little sketch maybe you know but I took the money yes and I'm very grateful for it and we're still

Chrisfriends and I made good on the money mhm what uh was the strings that were attached to the money we dated yeah but it wasn't like he just we didn't how

Jakelong did you have a date it's about 6 months six seven months and were you like dating is in exclusively dating or just just just catching up your exclusive exclusively dating so it

Brian Atlaswasn't like a down payment for a few overnighters no MM we were we were together okay you said you wanted to you wanted to touch on the rid ridiculous

Brian Atlasgender Wars happening in in relationships you authored a book about interracial dating is that the swirl book or whatever yeah that gave you from a black woman's perspective it was very sticky by the way I don't know why that I think it was something in my uh

Brian Atlassuitcase sorry uh it's all good it might be interesting to discuss uh so the the book is called swirl swirling ice cream cone and you're dating a a white man is

Christhat yes and so what's the book like plot synopsis what what's what's it about oh well um it was was written back in 2012 and black women have the lowest

Chrismarriage rates the highest divorce rates we outnumber black men by the millions and at the time black women were 42% single and everybody was kind of what

Chrisare we going to do 42% of black women are single and um I said I just got married I was a writer and very much wanted to write a book and what better

Christhing than my own experience other friends of mine women had said girl how did you do that how did you because it was just you know in the early 2000s it was seen as something that just wasn't

Chrisdone um a lot of black wom intercial dating um from black women interracially oh like dating white guys or it just was a lot of stigma there's a lot of social

Brena/Paula/Alexisconsequences that went along with it and so uh I came out and said hey date the best man for the job does it work vice versa though absolutely like black men dating oh they

Brena/Paula/Alexisdo it they do it twice as much okay yeah that didn't need to be told and then what about white women dating any other like racist go with God whoever you want to date H yeah everybody date who they

Brian Atlaswant to date yeah and then you said that you uh you're one of the rare people who actually went to Charm School you have an argument that women should pick that up

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