HEATED Debate With Woke Feminist?! Boss Babe Picks Career Over PERFECT Man?! | Dating Talk #229

Date: 2025-02-19

Duration: 8h 15m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Alina(guest)

SPEAKER_02Kelly/Other(guest)

SPEAKER_03Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brenda(guest)

SPEAKER_06TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mary Grace(guest)

SPEAKER_14Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions — all 8 women introduce themselves

“Brian: 'without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. Please tell us your name, age, location, occupation and education.'”

QuoteBrenda says she'd pick her business over a husband and kids if forced to choose

“Brian: 'husband children or Rave podcast and your business... which do you pick if you have to pick one?' / Brenda: 'it would [keep what I'm doing]' / Brian: 'the entailment of that is that you die single and alone' / Brenda: 'I love myself so I will be okay with that.'”

TopicMary Grace reveals she found her current boyfriend through the Whatever podcast

“Mary Grace: 'I am in a relationship thanks to you [Brian]' — she's dating a CFO (35) who watched her previous appearance, slid into her DMs, and they've been together 2 months. Brian: 'I'm invited to the wedding?'”

ControversyBrenda reveals she was 5150'd after domestic fight with ex on her birthday

“Brenda describes a domestic physical altercation with her ex on her birthday that led to her being handcuffed by police, taken to jail, then 5150'd at a hospital. She bit chunks of his arm while being choked. No charges filed. Ex had called 911. Story includes an OnlyFans subscription to her best friend.”

IntroAndrew Wilson joins remotely — just back from Debate Con

“Brian: 'oh look who it is hey Andrew good to see you man' / Andrew: 'oh do we have sorry I'm late... I was on a trip all weekend'”

QuoteBrenda reveals she had an OnlyFans that she paused when in relationship

“Andrew: 'if you're doing OnlyFans then you can't really have any moral problems with him if he's watching other OF girls' / Brenda admits ex subscribed to her best friend's OF page during arguments.”

Key MomentSelf-ratings round — guests rate their own looks 1-10

“Brenda: 8, Patrice: 8 (originally tried 7), Kelly: 6.9, Ivy: 6, Brian: 5. Andrew: 'I'm probably 4.' Discussion of whether anyone on the panel can be a 10. Debate over Megan Fox comparisons with Brenda.”

ControversyViral breakup TikTok reaction — woman mourning ex who dumped her after she moved

“Panel watches viral video of woman set to sad music detailing how she gave up career/improv troop/savings to move for boyfriend who then dumped her. Patrice most resonant — just lived something similar in Australia. Andrew makes sardonic comments about 'finding himself.' Brian: 'men are not relationship vending machines.'”

ControversyAndrew's argument: women's primary conflict tool is emotional manipulation/slander because they lack access to force

“Andrew: 'men always have an option women don't which is force... what they do instead is their kind of ways of fighting back are either through emotional manipulations or through the idea of slander.' Extended philosophical debate with panel. Brenda concedes women plot and scheme more.”

ControversyWoke feminist debate — Ivy argues women cannot be sexist toward men (requires power)

“Ivy presents academic 'prejudice + power = ism' framework. Andrew and Brian systematically challenge with examples (nurse killing men, woman serial killer, reverse Harvard quota). Ivy eventually concedes on racism against Asian people. Chat: 'the whole idea that sexism is Prejudice plus power is only held by people with room temperature IQ.'”

ControversyWould you send 100 innocent men to prison to prevent 1 rapist from walking free? — Brenda says yes

“Brenda says she would send 100 innocent men to prison for 3 years. Bailey says no. Brian invokes Blackstone's ratio. Andrew calls Brenda a fascist (via chat read by Alina).”

ControversyPatrice reveals her ex forced himself on her on 3 separate occasions

“Brian asks about Patrice's previous disclosure. She reveals her first boyfriend forced himself on her multiple times. She stayed because it was her first relationship and she grew up adopted in rural Pennsylvania, never feeling wanted. Says she eventually understood when she returned from Australia. Emotional moment — panel offers support.”

QuoteAlina: 'I do anything he says, he would never hear the word no' — train accident Patrice bit

“Brian plays Patrice O'Neal comedy clip about keeping your man after losing vagina in train accident. Alina: 'I do anything he says, he would never hear the word no come out of my mouth.' Brian has her repeat it for the audience.”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Statuses

Brian introduces all guests. Each introduces themselves with name, age, location, occupation, education. Then each shares relationship status, single duration, longest relationship, and who broke up with whom.

Types & Dating Preferences

Brian goes around the table asking everyone's type in a partner. Kelly describes wanting a 6'0-6'2" half-Black half-white athletic man. Brenda discusses her preference for light-skinned Latino men. Discussion of Rave culture and whether Brenda would quit raving for a relationship. Career vs. relationship trade-offs. Boss Babe mentality — Brenda admits she'd pick her business over a husband/kids right now.

Ivy's Late Introduction & Single Life

Ivy joins late and introduces herself. Discussion of her 2-year travels, breaking celibacy in October, her current crush (Korean-American, 37). NYC vs. LA dating comparisons. Rosters and situationships. Brenda explains her dating approach — roster of 4 potential lovers, sleeping with only 1.

Brenda's 5150 & Domestic Incident Story

Brian reads Brenda's pre-show notes about a past relationship involving a domestic physical altercation on her birthday. She was arrested, taken to jail, then 5150'd at hospital. Ex called 911, she bit chunks of his arm in self-defense while blacking out from alcohol. She made public statements about it online. They briefly reconciled after she demanded $3k rent from him.

Andrew Wilson Joins — Dating & Relationship Discussion

Andrew Wilson joins remotely. Discussion of red flags in women. Brenda's OnlyFans history and ex subscribing to her best friend's page. Ivy's story of Korean ex buying a dog together and stealing it + $3,000. Discussion of Color Guard and red flags.

Self-Ratings Round (Looks 1-10)

Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Brenda: 8. Patrice: 8 (tried 7). Kelly: 6.9. Ivy: 6. Brian: 5. Mary Grace declined. Alina passed. Andrew debated whether to push back. Discussion of aging, plastic surgery, Megan Fox comparisons, and whether anyone on the panel could ever be a 10.

Viral Breakup TikTok Reaction

Brian plays a viral video of a woman mourning her ex who broke up with her after she moved for him. Panel reacts — Patrice most resonant (just went through something similar in Australia). Andrew makes jokes. Discussion of whether he owes her money legally, common law marriage, women's tears on social media, and Socrates/Aristotle quotes on female nature.

Women's Manipulation vs. Men's Force — Andrew's Philosophical Debate

Andrew makes argument that women's primary conflict tools are slander/emotional manipulation because they lack access to physical force. Debate about whether men should open up emotionally to women (gives them ammunition). Discussion of women narrating their own behavior, men cataloging vulnerabilities. Ivy and Patrice push back from lived experience.

Traditional vs. Modern Relationship Values

Should women take husband's last name? Show of hands on various traditional/modern preferences: men paying for dates, leading, taking initiative. Brian argues men's romantic leadership practice translates to corporate success, explaining the 'gender pay gap.' Discussion of women wanting traditional relationship benefits while also wanting career independence.

Transgender Disclosure & Identity Debate

Do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose? Kelly says no. Ivy says it's straight to date a trans woman if she's had surgery. Andrew debates what constitutes sex vs. gender. Discussion of brain scan studies on gender dysphoria, vampire identity analogy. Andrew leaves the show at ~6:29.

Woke Feminist Debate — Sexism, Racism, Power Dynamics

Ivy's position: women can't be sexist toward men because sexism requires power. Andrew and Brian systematically challenge this with examples. Discussion of whether Asian people can be racist, the Latasha Harlins shooting, property rights and self-defense. Ivy concedes on several points. Brian argues men are primary war victims. Ivy fired from teaching job — disputes whether it was racism.

Would You Send 100 Innocent Men to Prison?

Brian poses hypothetical: would you send 100 innocent men to prison for 3 years to prevent 1 rapist from walking free? Brenda says she would (for 100, hesitates at 1000). Bailey says no. Discussion of Blackstone's ratio foundation of Western justice.

Gender Pay Gap & Women's Oppression Discussion

Are women oppressed in the US? Ivy says yes (de facto). Can people be racist against white people? Discussion of Harvard's Asian quota case. Brian connects women's romantic preferences (wanting men who lead, provide, pay) to why men occupy executive positions — men practice leadership traits in dating.

Patrice's Assault Disclosure

Brian attempts to get clarity on Patrice's previous disclosure about her ex-boyfriend. She reveals he forced himself on her on 3 separate occasions. She stayed because it was her first relationship and she grew up adopted in rural central Pennsylvania without feeling wanted. Emotional and sensitive moment. Panel offers support.

Patrice Honest Comedy Clip & End of Show

Brian plays a classic Patrice O'Neal comedy bit about what women would do to keep a man if they lost their vagina in a train accident. Panel reacts and answers. Makeup removal segment. Show ends with raid on Twitch streamer Grayson.

Transcript

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Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the dispute is and you fix it and you work on yourself and you become a better person at some point I I do believe in the theory that like they always come back I mean and they it might not always be a good thing and they might not

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)always come back in the capacity that you want them back in but women I mean women do possess the ability to to well here let's well let's

Brendatry it this way okay just a just quick show of hands do you think that women plot and scheme more than men do by a show of hands oh yeah we just women are

Andrew Wilsonscheming we rather do that a lot of women rather definitely so definitely women plot and scheme uh more than men do so let me um let me ask you this think about this from a man's

Andrew Wilsonperspective women often uh don't don't think of it from our perspective but universally from theirs and why wouldn't they right they're not men they're women so they're going to think of things from their from their perspective it's hard

Andrew Wilsonto actually put yourself in the other seat but when women say like men are emotionally closed off they're emotionally closed off they don't want to talk they don't want to talk about their feelings they don't want to talk

Andrew Wilsonabout things like this did you guys ever think that because if they do it actually gives you ammunition so if they tell you their deepest darkest fears or they tell you or they become vulnerable with you about about anything which is

Andrew Wilsonemotional since they know that you scheme and plot a as a way to either defend yourself or hurt other people whereas they would just like punch them

Andrew Wilsonin the mouth right um by them actually being vulnerable to you that that lays open the trap for your scheming and plotting so in in many ways wouldn't

Andrew Wilsonthat be a great defense mechanism like wouldn't you actually give men advice don't tell women very much because they scheme and plot and will do bad things to you with the information if they get

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)upset right like that makes sense from a man's perspective well yeah cuz like society makes it to wherever a man cries immediately he's weak immediately he you know is like less of a man because he

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)can't control his emotions and then naturally like cuz I I have done this like years ago to uh to my first relationship where uh he was vulnerable with me and I do remember me mentioning to him like when I was crying I was like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)well when you were crying when you cried I was there for you you know so that's like that I was kind of like using his vulnerability as a way for him to like be there for me and um like so it was a

Andrew Wilsonit was a bit of plotting and scheming and manipulation right 100% so this is so this is the case right is like so in many ways probably the best advice to give men is to not open up to women open

Andrew Wilsonup to the right do and so so but wait it gets worse it gets worse what if it's the case that the the reason women are always complaining that men don't open up and aren't vulnerable to them is

Andrew Wilsonbecause what they really mean is this [ __ ] guy isn't giving me ammunition to hurt him with in some cases I would agree that probably maybe most cases I have no idea actually but um when like when you think about it you think about it from the

Andrew Wilsonman's mind he's like wait a second now that we know they scheme and plot more and they're going to use what I say as emotional ammunition and they get upset if I don't emotionally become vulnerable for them if you put that together in the man's

Andrew Wilsonlogical brain doesn't he think to himself wait a second this chick just wants me to be emotionally vulnerable and give her my darkest secrets so that she can hurt me with them if she wants to cuz what other recourse does she have yeah I would say that means you just got to get to know the person that you know

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Brian Atlaswith strings attached hey V thank you very much I do appreciate that yeah I I mean feel a family member wrote the note like his mom his yeah I don't know um I do sorry guys I I'm the one who

Brian Atlascontrols all like the TTS is coming through I was I stepped away for about 10 minutes so some of these came in a little you know 10 minutes ago 1015 so I apologize for that uh go ahead

Andrew WilsonAndrew yeah yeah uh no problem um so I just wanted to just briefly kind of wrap this up with uh have any of you ever been with a person who like switched on

Andrew Wilsona dime they changed on a dime and suddenly you found yourself having to defend yourself from like vicious allegations or rumor mongering or things

Andrew Wilsonlike that or even had a close friend by a raise of hands who's done that to you only two of you have ever had a friend of yours or a person you were

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)with ever change very quickly or rapidly oh oh talking about like a partner like someone you're dating oh okay yeah of course I think that over a relationship you should change it's pretty common

Andrew Wilsonpretty common I would say right so if that's the case for for you should men would probably think that that would be the case for them too so again why would they be vulnerable but I think men vulnerable yeah I didn't mean to cut you

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)off I think men do the same thing to women men like to men are fixers so if you complain about something they'll try to fix it for you but they also kind of store that complaint in the back of their mind and they start using anything that you say to like psychoanalyze you

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)and a lot of times try to convince you like why you're messed up and like why they can like fix you men take the the same thing that you're saying women do to men men do to women and they like in

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)my opinion it's what I don't know who you're talking about women you're talking about wom women when women are vulnerable you're talking about women bitching about problem no no like literally anything like if women are vulnerable about something that's

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)happened to them like for example if a woman's parents got divorced let's say or something like that and she says like oh like I you're married or whatever and she's like I'm insecure in the marriage about this like because my parents got

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)divorced that guy will take that and he will use that to the end of the Earth it doesn't matter what you say he'll be like that's because your parents got divorced and now you're messed up like guys do the same thing to women they take something that you've said and you

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)were vulnerable about and they like twist it for their their own like evil maniacal good in the relationship or to justify something completely unrelated they store that away in the back of their head and they use it against you

Andrew Wilsontoo like men also do that why did you say earlier that you think that women are more manipulative and have more nefarious mations when it when it comes to these manipulations than men what's the difference I think that women will

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)go after a relationship they will do more of a smear campaign they'll they'll do more of like the getting with their friends or Mutual mutual friends Mutual partners and doing like the oh well here's you know he did this and he did that and he sucks because of this and he

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)sucks because of that I don't think men really go to their friends after a relationship or after something's bad has happened and do that to the woman they do it or like do it behind her back

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)they do it directly to her so I think that men are more like kind of calculating in the relationship to make vulnerable things a woman has said fit the narrative women

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)don't usually use it against him like to his face they take it and they do a smear campaign with it after like behind their back which is worse so men are talking to them about the actual problem

Andrew Wilsonand saying here's why the problem may exist which makes sense and women will go behind the back of the man in order to smear them doesn't that way worse yes yeah so then when you're talking about

Andrew Wilsonthis I would put this in the category of bitching right so it works like this men do [ __ ] to each other they gripe to each other occasionally but if there's too much griping we look over at the other guy and we say hey shut the [ __ ] up I don't want to hear your bitching

Andrew Wilsonanymore shut up I don't want to hear it be quiet go away right this kind of thing and then we make fun of them and clown on them and and then what that does is it prevents them in the future from bitching anymore right because they

Andrew Wilsonknow that there's going to be a bunch of negative feedback back from men yeah but we can't do that with our women right we can't we can't just be like ah you know why don't you shut the [ __ ] up cuz I'm tired of hearing your bitching because

Andrew Wilsonthat's not socially acceptable but that's how we do it with other men that's how we do it with my Exon literally would do that he would literally be like us imagine hang on hang on almost done so from our perspective imagine you're dealing with

Andrew Wilsona woman and she's in this category of bitching all the time of course it's going to be categorized and when you're trying to fix the problem which is making her [ __ ] right uh you're going to try to analyze what's causing the

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)problem so you can fix it right that makes that makes sense to me that does make sense but I've had it before like where like I was just saying my ex fiance would literally look at me and he would be like shut the [ __ ] up I had a long day at work like I don't care like I don't want to hear about your problems but I've also had it where he was well I

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)mean he sounds awesome but yeah you would like him actually I think um I I would I would rather that though than a guy taking something that I told him like that I was confiding in him in

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)and being vulnerable with and take it and use it against me and be like well you have trust issues because X Y and Z I don't I don't have a specific example like off the top of my head but I would

Andrew Wilsonrather just be like shut the [ __ ] up you're bitching is annoying me than having something like that I told what about the fact that women are always psychoanalyzing themselves to the men

Andrew Wilsonthat they're with constantly to them and telling them why they think they're [ __ ] up so women are notorious for doing this the reason that I talk so much about blah blah blah blah blah is because this awful thing that happened

Andrew Wilsonto me four years ago when I was walking a r Park and I was a jump scared by you know random like they do that [ __ ] all the time so they're constantly giving descriptive explanations and

Andrew Wilsonpsychoanalyzing themselves and why they do certain behaviors and then when a man turns around and says wait a second aren't you doing that because by your own descriptive statement you said you're all [ __ ] up because a b and c

Andrew Wilsonand then a woman's like you shouldn't say that that's mean that's up you're using it against me but it's like you you said that [ __ ] right oh that's so true I like that I really like what you just said it's a fair point yeah I mean

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)they're always psychoanalyzing themselves true yeah I think so I think we tried to like help each other out like oh maybe you did this and it's like something that happened like 10 years ago because this happened and then we don't really want to take like full

Andrew Wilsonresponsibility for what we did yeah they like narrate their behavior right they narrate their behavior all the time like don't you guys narate your behavior show of hands if you narrate your own behavior like you've been narrating your

Andrew Wilsonbehavior most of the night right yeah you guys just kind of like narrate your behavior and so we catalog the narration and then we're like okay well sounds like she needs a b c and d fixed you just then don't use that against me it's

Andrew Wilsonlike uh well I mean I wouldn't even know it except you just decided to catalog your entire life's work of events to me you know what I mean M MH mhm I remember

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)when I was working as a teacher I had one student that tried to beat me up and then all the other kids are like oh don't get mad at him like I heard that his mom is in the hospital I was like what does his mom being in the hospital have to do with him like threatening me and the kids are just like don't take it

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)personally I was like oh what the heck you forgot you forgot to start with one time at B Camp yeah every time you talk you're supposed to do that

Brian Atlasuh yeah anything did you have more on that Andrew or good to move things on okay all right uh AKA The Closer Andrew on the back of what you said about men being able to use force with other men

Brian Atlasas means of conflict resolution what recourse do men have against malignant women if any they don't have anything the only thing that they have is counter reputational damage which makes them

Andrew Wilsonlook mean and makes women look like victims so the problem the especially in modernity is that when women begin slander campaigns and Men defend themselves usually they only way that

Andrew Wilsonthey can do so is to be vicious back this is unfortunately the side effect of slander campaign is the without in order to uh to defend yourself like let's say for instance a

Andrew Wilsonwoman is abusive to you and she's hitting you things like this and one night you physically grab her and move her or move her out of your way so you can leave or something like this she files a police report um and now you're

Andrew Wilsonbeing slandered as being abusive this type of thing well often times the only way that you can defend yourself from such slander is to be like no this lady was hitting me constantly she was awful

Andrew Wilsonthis type thing but it makes you because you're you're determined socially by uh what is called the Schrodinger Fe feminist phenomenon which is I'm me a very empowered badass woman or the worst

Andrew Wilsonvictim you've ever seen depending on which situation benefits me most in this case uh women will often uh portrayal why they're slandering you that they

Andrew Wilsonthemselves are the victim if you hit back right so this is this would be the same thing in the context of if a woman punches you the face and you punch her back in the face she still immediately gets the victim status even though

Brian Atlasreally she doesn't deserve it can I ask a question pel one second also on this this is like this is basically a hold over from chivalry essentially also the the issue with uh when it comes to like reputation

Brian Atlasdestruction stuff here why we keep it Center is uh let's ass I mean this what I'm about to say maybe doesn't necessarily apply

Brian Atlasso much if you're just like a normie but if you have like like hey guys guys oh this is why we need people to show up on time because we called you on the phone so that you could be listening you

Brian Atlascannot be having sidebar I've had to shush you multiple times if somebody else is talking don't lean over to your neighbor and start talking to them it's disrespectful and rude to whoever's

Brian Atlastalking it distracts them it's rude and it [ __ ] the audio so please don't do sidebars so anyways back to this page out of Andrew's book

Brian Atlasum back to this I already lost my train of thought wonderful that's exactly why we don't want people doing talking about our reputational damage yeah so let's say

Brian Atlasyou're like a somebody and the girls a nobody I'm not saying this from an ego perspective but if you're a [ __ ] NFL NBA player you can't even resort to counter reputation destruction really

Brian Atlasbecause you have everything to lose and they have nothing to lose that's the second thing maybe they're doing it for attention you actually making some sort sort of definitive statement about it gives them

Brian Atlasthe attention the precise attention that they want and then furthermore given the lack it's interesting how there's talks about imbalances of power a guy who's like really

Brian Atlasfamous or who has a lot of money or resources dating a woman who has nothing I actually think in some ways a woman who has nothing who is involved

Brian Atlaswith a man with immense amount of power is actually severely disadvantaged in some ways because the woman has nothing to lose nothing to lose if he opts to

Brian Atlasslander slander or destroy his reputation he has everything to lose so this idea that there's some power Dynamic I find kind of almost laughable

Brian Atlaswhen actually women in many instances have substantial power in the sort of uh in the way that they can wield it when it comes to any sort of false accusations or slander but

Brian AtlasI guess going back to my point if you have a platform of any kind and you're a guy and some whether it's relationship or just somebody talking [ __ ] about you you can respond but you've just put all

Brian Atlasyour audience's attention on something that maybe many of them wouldn't even hear about or wouldn't care about so it's a two-edged sword yeah you can

Brian Atlasresort to like uh you can resort to a sort of rebuttal of uh reputation destruction but

Brian Atlashonestly it really doesn't help you that much and I think the other thing here is oh shoot I'm trying to think what the other thing was related to uh are you like touching on cancel culture no not really uh when it comes to oh there's

Brian Atlassomething else when it comes to reputation destruction um oh related to his Original Point what recourse do men have against malignant women and I think

Brian Atlasthe the interesting thing Andrew in society Society has broadly recognized that the method by which men uh activate

Brian Atlasaggression through typically physical violence that has been legislated against thoroughly for hundreds of years but there's actually no mechanism to

Brian Atlaspolice the ways in which women display their aggression there's really nothing there's not even really much civil remedies there's no criminal remedies except for very severe cases where

Brian Atlasthere's been like they make a false criminal complaint and it's provable that she's lying you know you can get them with this uh even even many times

Brian Atlaswhen they do like a false police report the district attorney Ops not to really prosecute it they get off with probation or something you know slap on the wrist um and

Brian Atlasthen there's really nothing in in modern society that has any sort of enforcement mechanism when it comes to female aggression in the realm of reputation destruction and this sort of thing so I

Andrew Wilsonthink that's interesting well there used to be there used to be just so you know there used to be defamation laws and uh defamation laws were actually enforced readily and let me give you an example

Andrew Wilsonof a of a uh defamation law which um which was pretty common uh when the country was founded if you talk [ __ ] about a man you would uh end up sword fighting with him in the morning and one

Andrew Wilsonof you could die or would go out with a duel with a pistol and blow each other's brains out perhaps uh as part of a legal remedy for uh having your honor in some

Andrew Wilsonway be smurged or your wife's honor in some way be smurged there's many famous cases of this happening however uh there was legal remedies against women who did this as

Andrew Wilsonwell and here's what the legal remedy was you could challenge her husband to a duel right and so that was a great remedy because that would take care of her security so she had to be very

Andrew Wilsoncautious about who she was running her mouth about because then that the other guy decided to be smurch her honor her husband was obligated then to duel with

Andrew Wilsonhim or become honorless so that was a great way to keep that in check right oh well you're going to be homeless and penniless without your husband's Fortune

Andrew Wilsonuh because I shot him because he he Dishonored me right that was uh that was a significant good way to keep some of that in check but unfortunately that's gone like if you brought dueling back in

Andrew Wilsonmodernity 90% of society would correct itself in weeks bring dueling back bring it back there we go bring dueling back bring

Andrew Wilsondueling what does it um but somebody can like Turn Down The Duel I'm pretty sure but then you look like a [ __ ] then they're labeled a coward right the whole point of Honor was that uh you didn't

Andrew Wilsonthe reason people didn't run their mouth is because either you showed up to the duel or you're labeled a coward who turned down a duel right so every time the other person saw you regardless of what you said you'd just be like well

Andrew Wilsonyou're a coward so who cares and that's the end of that right but if a if a person's woman wouldn't uh so I mean this is actually so common the honor culture uh came back over to the turn of the 20th century that's why when you

Andrew Wilsonwatch black and white movies where men will look over and say hey quiet that woman down if she's like running her mouth sometimes the husband would turn and smack her right and the point of that was it was part of uh the honor

Andrew Wilsonculture of saying look you're about to get me in hot water here right so there was a corrective lens or a corrective action which used to be able to be taken so can I ask the panel a question sure

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)okay so like going around I guess starting here if a if you hit a man like you full on as hard as you can close fist punch a man in the jaw or the eye or whatever you might do do you think think that he should be allowed to hit

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you back or are you expecting to get hit back you've chosen to hit like a man can he hit you back should he hit you back depends on who hit first you hit first

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)oh I hit first yeah just don't like beat me beat me up no no you hit him as hard as you hit him as hard as you can now he gets to hit you as hard as you can should oh as hard as he can yeah you hit him with

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)full force closed fist can he use that same degree of force on you it's a good question this is why you don't hit a man I agree as a woman let's get the answers though let's get the

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)answers first can we come back to me okay what do you uh well before we get you what do you think um of course should be expected

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)but after before even I hit I tried to or like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)my anxiety whatever they that they gaug is really

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the gagey like the Gage is too much so you know so anyway I shoot expectation

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)and yeah so yes yes okay yo Elder thank you for the membership um what do you think um I

Brian Atlasthink that men should not hit women yeah yeah even if a girl hits you as hard as they can so even in the situation she presented the woman hits him

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)first do you think I mean but if the guy did would you think that that was wrong if a guy hit the girl after she had hit him the hardest that she could yes I think it's wrong for him for the guy to

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)hit her what about is it wrong for the girl think uh is it wrong for the girl to hit the guy okay is it wait is that your question is that wrong is it no I don't think so you don't think it's wrong for a woman to hit a man I mean

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)depends it's just like one time like she was mad she hit him and it's like the hardest she could right so that's quite the concession um yeah or a concession yeah I think you said it right yeah I

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)think so I I can it there is that yeah so he's expected to go he's expected to control his rage and his emotions and his like but the woman she just got mad and head him okay if you think about it

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)right like I think that's one of the questions on questionnaire like are men physically stronger than women and I sometimes I'm like yeah men are like built physically to be stronger than girl that's why we have different Olympics men and women cannot compete in the same Olympic team wait have you ever

Brian Atlashit somebody have I hit somebody yeah I have like a guy yeah uh and did he hit you first no have you hit a guy multiple times no so you hit a guy like you what tell us the story what happened uh we

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)just fought about something and I was just like so frustrated like I think she said I was like H and I was just like slapped him and then you how hard did you slap him I I thought like I think the hardest I could yeah and that was the only time you put hands on a guy or

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)have you done it before no that the first time and last time in my life snack you back did he hit me back no he just like left he just left the apartment and I didn't see him the whole night what did he do oh um I honestly

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)don't remember what he thought about what we thought about we talked about it again did he was it cheating or no no no no no we never what you just didn't take out the trash or something it was like something like it was something she

Brian Atlasshe's like a 1950s wife beater you [ __ ] You overcooked my [ __ ] por uh roast be wait what what was like a

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)common what uh my ey you overcook the pot roast no yeah I was like very Petty and no no but no the fight was very serious it was about something but I don't

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)remember I think it was about weed I told him to stop smoking yes I'll tell you it was about weed yeah did you guys stay together yeah we lived together at the time yeah oh domestic violence it

Andrew Wilsonwas my favorite we were in college oh wow that's a that's a position of privilege right so the same thing with when when chair one has to think about

Andrew Wilsonthis right she goes hm this is uh this is a tough question uh there's actually a position of privilege that women have that um I don't really understand why they have it because if you want

Andrew Wilsonequality and egalitarianism I just oh sorry sorry yeah if you want equality and egalitarianism the idea here is going to be based around the fact that chivalry is gone we are now equals

Andrew Wilsonchivalry would always put women in a POS position where they needed to be a protected class and in exchange for that men men got virtues right like chased virgins and things like this they don't

Andrew Wilsonget that anymore so they don't really need to give out chivalry if a man hits you in the face and you can punch them back why is it if a woman punches you in the face you can't punch her back that

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)actually doesn't make any sense wait can I add something can I say something yeah go ahead cuz that's exactly what just you just missed my whole point then if you weren't if you saying that you don't understand it what I'm is that men are physically stronger

Andrew Wilsonthan women like for example men are physically stronger than other men so if a man who is less strong than me punches me in the face and I punch him back in the face as hard as I can um I'm still

Andrew Wilsonpunching somebody weaker than me in the face why is that socially acceptable but not socially hang on hang on but not socially acceptable to punch a woman who's weaker that makes no sense no cuz then like that guy who's weaker than you

Andrew Wilsonthat you mentioned is because like maybe he chose to be weak he could like bulk up and get stronger right but but the strongest on the woman he's not stronger then he's not stronger when I punched him and that's still socially acceptable

Andrew Wilsonlike for instance if a man who's only as strong as you punches me in the face it is completely socially acceptable even by you for me to punch him back why is

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)it not socially acceptable to punch you back though that makes no sense if you think about it in the Olympics like I said like why don't women and men compete together like it just we just don't it's like there's different standards and levels like even when you

Andrew Wilsonplay golf there's like a lady where are the female boxers trying to punch the male boxers then what if it's a male boxer female boxer you to punch male boxers if and if they do punch a

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)male boxer then male boxer has right to punch them back right why don't they have MMA with between women and men they don't showcase that because they don't want to get hit by men therefore they

Andrew Wilsondon't want to hit men men are in a different way if you go if you go let's go to an MMA fight the woman's conceivably going to be punching you in the face right and you're going to be punching her in the face so the way that

Andrew Wilsonthey avoid the man punching her in the face is to not have that fight just like a way for women to avoid getting punched in the face is by not punching men in the face right pretty simple if you walked outside right now

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)and there was a tiger outside and you threw like a rock at it what would you expect would happen if there was a tiger outside right outside right now and you threw a rock right at the tiger what do you think would happen I think it would

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)probably like chase me no so why would you th for the rock I don't know to aggravate I don't know I don't know I just throw this wrong you're telling me you say to aggravate the tiger a better

Andrew Wilsonone for you a better one for you you you teach seventh grade right I taught seventh grade yes taught seventh grade okay isn't it the case that between about fifth sixth and seventh grade

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)often the girls are much stronger than the boys because they go through puberty first I think that the girls are I no I've never seen girls stronger than the boys like they were skinny a lot of the

Andrew Wilsongirls were skinny and smaller than yeah sure sure but it is often the case women reach puberty before men do and so in many cases they they're stronger than men are I actually yeah there's some so

Andrew Wilsonin those cases wouldn't you have to say that if those girls punched those boys or if the boys punch those girls the girls shouldn't hit them back oh actually I think that it's like different cuz then like I was thinking about it as like we're all adults and

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)then they're hitting each other but if like they're kids I feel like it's fair game like the guy and the and the the little boys and the little bo girls they can fight each other they're like the same level yeah I think that's like I've seen girls beat up guys I've seen guys beat up girls like not guys sorry like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)little boys like in seventh grade let's get the answers from the rest of the panel for your question what about you um I think if a girl wants to hit first then you've opened it up for a guy to

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)respond sorry what's the question if you hit a man full force haul off and punch him in the jaw or the face or whatever as hard as you can should he be able to hit ha you back

Alinayes yes I don't think I should be surprised because that would be self-defense everyone should have self-control when it comes to anger and everything

Brian Atlaselse I think uh I guess really quick on this uh I think a guy would be be within his right to do it as a woman if you hit a guy I don't think you should be

Brian Atlassurprised but I would also have to Advocate proactively pragmatically speaking as a man uh even in like a self defense situation you got to just extract yourself from the situation

Brian Atlaspractically speaking because even if you're 100 she hits you first maybe you're 100% in the right whether it's I was going to say legally or at least so

Brian Atlasfrom a societal view you can even if she's the initiator as the man you still put yourself at like significant Peril when it comes to the criminal justice system if you

Brian Atlasstrike a woman so you just look it's unfair but that's how it is you got to remove yourself from the situation if you can that's why when I say I don't think men should hit women even they shouldn't hit women in that situation

Brian Atlasyou got to remove yourself from that situation and it has to be done with that girl once a girl ever puts hands on you it's over it has to be

Brian Atlasdone right so but as a woman you should not be like if you hit a man don't be surprised nobody should hit anybody but don't be surprised if you get a smack

Brian Atlasback m also gentlemen if it it's in public you definitely should not smack back because a bunch of white night simps will intervene on her behalf even if they see

Brian Atlasher smack you first you got to you got to be cautious about the the surrounding environments and you're going to put yourself not just in legal Peril in legal Jeopardy but also they're going to

Brian Atlas[ __ ] you up the other men are going to [ __ ] you up if they see you smack a girl even if it's well if it's in return even if it's in return and the city will come after you and they'll press charges on you yeah so um did you have something

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)else on this I do want to try to get things moving on though I mean I I don't think they should but I think if you're going to hit like a man I think that you should be expecting to get hit back and I was just going to tell a funny story it's like quick I know one time at B

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)Camp no I know this I know a guy who was getting hit like literally beat by his girlfriend like bloody face and he's like stop hitting me stop hitting me stop and he ends up calling the cops on

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)her this woman was crazy she takes her head bashes it into like a granite countertop now she's all bloody she's like what are you going to tell him I'm going to tell him you hit me first oh

Brian Atlaswow like wait minut many such cases many such cases my that was myact situation really quick guys uh Reed is 100 TTS is 200 we uh like the video please if

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Andrew Wilsonoh [ __ ] Ian am I am I crazy here Bri feel like the gas the the chat's gaslighting me but in in like elementary school or something like isn't there this tiny window where the girls are

Andrew Wilsontaller taller than are this type of thing and then you like come back yeah you know what I mean and then you come back two summers later or whatever and the boys are all way bigger and stronger and this kind of thing I'm I'm pretty sure that I'm correct about that I think

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Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)Did he wait did he do it again yes wait how can you tell say it tce oh what the heck okay so is that the equivalent of just like $500 then I

Brian Atlasthink so oh look at the tiger or whatever that was set up for somebody specific but uh black I'll do maybe I'll do a custom Blackbird one you're you're a legend man guys W's in the chat man this guy are

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you an Oiler what what's that called for the gamers like the guys who oh waers wher like you like he's he's from one the oil

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Brian Atlasum thank you so much uh Blackbird you're a [ __ ] Legend all right let's get into the uh questionnaire questionnaire here brinda actually no hold on this is

Brian Atlasfor oh she's gone damn okay uh here we're just going to start I have to wait until she's back uh you know what here we'll go into some of

Brian Atlasthe pre-show notes then uh brinda no we did all of brinda's notes do we have a Sophia here that was one of the no shows

Brian Atlasan Angela do we have an Angela no those are the flakes uh let's see Patrice oh no that's she's gone hold on I think

Brian Atlasit's just Patrice we did all of iy we did all of brinda we did cie uh let's see uh you want to talk about what is Real Love cuz hard to find real love

Kelly/Otherwhat you're dating a Jamaican j j j UK J UK J UK yeah real love real love do you feel

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)guilty for saying that you're single while knowing you're in like a well I think I said the singer cuz we never decided to get into the relationship

Brian Atlasokay since today let's do 101 it's kind of relationship right like but hold on

Brian Atlaswait wait for it uhoh uhoh sorry sorry sorry Ole Ogle good sir hold on we have a champagne pop here

Brian Atlasso pop champagne enjoyed the champagne yours also I don't know why it's not triggering yo Ogle guys W's in the chat

Brian Atlasfor Ogle he's a legend and then I don't know why these aren't oh get me get me the yeah that's fine

Brian Atlasperiod so happy right now my my YouTube memberships were disabl yo cat thank you for the gifted 50 memberships guys D Us in the chat for cat she's a homie and

Brian Atlasthen Ogle thank you again for the gifted 50 uh cat is a legend AR member over there in the Discord uh yeah we'll do we'll get Cubs

Brian Atlasgoing uh I feel like I hold on somebody want to like ask a dating question while I'm dealing with the the champagne

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)situe yeah I mean she can you can just finish your question what is love what is real love right oh God no no I I need

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)a translator um what is love yeah I like you know I said the singer but like you

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)know I like him more than friends so um that looks dangerous but I'm let's to hear this pop I can open it oh what the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] I can open it oh really yeah I took a glass oh but this is champagne there we go I feel like it's going to spill three two one oh really

Brian Atlasoh it wasn't quite a pop oh I at least I got it off right Chad all

Brian Atlasright here just pass just pass him uh wait everybody wait hold on Alina you already failed um what do you're not

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)of age oh everybody's over 21 besides Elina right you are not 21 she's she's 20 yes she's a

Brian Atlasvampire why are you guys why would hold on I'm no I have the AL the why are you the bottle is here why are you passing

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)empty cups down I'm sorry give it to him or the cups weing the bottle why would you okay sorry I'm OCD a here pass the

Brian AtlasBrian you're perfect pass the champion pass pass it down pass it down pass it you cannot pass an empty cup down oh my

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)I'm sorry I'm losing my mind who does anybody not want champagne Patrice me want does anybody not want champagne who

Andrew Wilsonthe want Ivy did you you want champagne can you teach him how to pass cuffs like their seventh graders real quick I don't think seventh graders

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)could pass cuffs that well either NE what pretty it's pretty rough after Co they lost two years of learning yeah so they didn't have a lot of good skills like motor skills some of them didn't have motor skills you're

Brendawelcome we don't have motor skills I

Brian Atlasme all right uh there it is

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)so uh cheers to Ole sal sal wait zovia that's what it is in

Brian Atlasrussan thank you appreciate it um okay yummy thanks let me just get caught up here on a couple things and then we'll get into some of the stuff oh man Ogle you're a legend thank

Brian Atlasyou so much man thank you thank you good good talk good talk okay where were we oh here we go um let's get into the

Brian Atlasquestionnaire uh brinda actually wait no this is first going to Patrice and Cali the statement is our men insecure for

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)caring about a woman's body count you both say yes no I was confused earlier like that was the yeah no they're not insecure okay so it's just uh Callie you think men are insecure if they care

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)about the women's body count of course they um I mean like most guys I don't

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)know kind of like when I see so many um guys in LA or random on Tik Tok social media they talking about the guys care

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)the body body count especially for um especially for yeah woman yeah they

Brian Atlasdo be honest they do they do what they care the body count insecure inure for that and uh so you think it's like wh why are they

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)insecure uh of course you know like some type of

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)a man love to have a woman like trophy or something like you know my

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)girl okay look like I'm a relationship with this girl or before that he want to he want to show you one day to his friends

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)family but he want your

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)oh I think yeah who like who dated with over 50 or more like a lot of people like shared the like something body

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)count means like having sex so um even we don't like no body count is enough I mean like even like in

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)relationship so how many have how many relationship you have and then if more count and then you feel possible things sker possibilities are lower so how does

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)it make him insecure oh like oh you still talk with the ex and then like kind of like when I have a that highest body count like they

Alinaassume like um they try to judge you know I definitely judge but is it wrong to judge somebody that you're looking to be in a relationship with wouldn't it be

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the correct thing to do to judge their past I'm saying is like just not gener just some type of

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)insecure man and even I have that experience or so so yes I said yes so you think that men shouldn't care how

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)many bodies a woman has I hope not I hope not but they in Secure for the body count high uh who here cares about body count I me know no yeah like on a girl

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)or a guy like on a guy body yeah oh okay all right uh what what is uh what's your

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)body count my body count let's see I'm 33 and I would

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)say I got a lot of body count since I mov to La say move to LA I would do not

Brian Atlassay I'm not good at mess but I let's say can we get a range yeah let's

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)say 30 okay let's let's wait let's say an I can I'm not good at M

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)yeah I'm not going at mess baby so anyway 30 how what if you're does uh what's the

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)number in Korean oh two oh Korean is my La two wait what two for my sex word no

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)they want you to say the number in Korean like the real number what is like in the Korean

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)language no she just said 30 she just said 30 in Korean something something wrong no something oh sounds like a something wrong wrong all right um okay I guess

Brendagoing around the table we'll go around brenzo what's your body account so it's it's in the highest

Kelly/Othersingle digits so n and I maybe like 789 78 n

Brian Atlasliar uh what about you can you guess nope uh all long-term relationships but

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)four okay IV that's a tough question yeah I remember I was a teacher there are kids that might watch this I

Kelly/Otherwill pass on this I don't think they watch I don't know 11 o' yeah they're not watch no nobody watches the show nobody watches the show like it's it gets pretty bad

Brian Atlasviews it it does I mean it's really we're on the and we we're only going down you're good okay okay okay uh

Brian Atlasseven okay two one seven oh two hey come back here did you say you said it last show right yeah you can

Brian Atlasfind it what did you say last show I think I think her range under 30 under under 30 multiply by three and that's the real number all right there he is for everybody for everybody I don't want to single out

Brian AtlasMary okay uh like a wh I'm okay okay okay okay so the next statement wrong for man to refuse to date a woman because she is overweight

Brian AtlasPatrice you said yes that is wrong no I was so confused by your yes no but at what point did you get this figured out or is this all just [ __ ] I don't know

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)honestly all right um that's probably why you got dumped in oh gosh yes that was why your your poor reading comprehension uh he actually made me take an IQ test like before I was

Brian Atlasallowed to date him and a DNA test I like that I I'm going to make all my future Prospect girls take IQ test he made me get An ancestry genealogy test and also take an IQ test a paid one and

Andrew Wilsona free one that's impressive okay who is this guy I'm doing that [ __ ] from I'm stealing that what what was the point of the of the ancestry test he only wants like I mean he's not wrong for this he

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)wants children that looks like that look like him so he was looking for somebody who's kind of the same mix as he is so English Irish uh so that was the point of that and then kids inherit I is is

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)inherited through genes and he was objectively high high IQ so he would only have children with somebody who was also high IQ otherwise you're dulling down your your gene pool like it's the same thing if you're 65 and you date a

Brian Atlasgirl who's 5' one your kids probably aren't going to be 6'5 anyways I got to move this on but um the statement is wrong for a man to refuse to date a woman because she is

Brian Atlasoverweight uh Stephanie can you clarify what's it's not wrong oh no okay cuz both remarks okay uh let's see here brinda do men put in more effort oh it

Brian Atlasdepends more effort when it comes oh should men pay on the first date you say no Patrice you say yes cie you say yes yes Ivy equal Bailey Stephanie you

Brian Atlassay yes uh Mary didn't respond to that one Alina says yes should men pay on the first dat yeah just show hands who's yes

Brendaon that one okay uh it depends on who who asks who out you know like if a girl's asking a guy out like you're the one taking him out and he offers to pay

Brendathen sure like yeah except women don't ask men out I just I wanted a guy and I wanted to ask him out so I asked him out I took him out yeah so I don't dispute

Brian Atlasthat women occasionally perhaps even rarely ask men out uh but if I were to ask you of all the dates you've been on did you ask them out or did they ask you

Brian Atlasout I'd probably wager that they asked you out more and I think this would be the case for almost all women um so the whole whoever I should pay thing is kind of that would be a fair statement if

Brian Atlaswomen asked men out it was 50/50 yeah I get it it's I mean look it is it is what it is but women just don't be asking men out like that but um I do have one question on the who should pay thing

Brian Atlasum H well it's not real super related to this but um just show again who who said yes boom boom boom boom boom boom will

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you take your husband's last name absolutely I would take my non- husband's last name if you put a ring on my finger I like I'm okay what about you huh four you literally just Rose your

Brian Atlashand full would you take your's last name oh yes are you wait wait let me try something are you a fascist raise your

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