HEATED Debate With Woke Feminist?! Boss Babe Picks Career Over PERFECT Man?! | Dating Talk #229

Date: 2025-02-19

Duration: 8h 15m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Alina(guest)

SPEAKER_02Kelly/Other(guest)

SPEAKER_03Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brenda(guest)

SPEAKER_06TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mary Grace(guest)

SPEAKER_14Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions — all 8 women introduce themselves

“Brian: 'without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. Please tell us your name, age, location, occupation and education.'”

QuoteBrenda says she'd pick her business over a husband and kids if forced to choose

“Brian: 'husband children or Rave podcast and your business... which do you pick if you have to pick one?' / Brenda: 'it would [keep what I'm doing]' / Brian: 'the entailment of that is that you die single and alone' / Brenda: 'I love myself so I will be okay with that.'”

TopicMary Grace reveals she found her current boyfriend through the Whatever podcast

“Mary Grace: 'I am in a relationship thanks to you [Brian]' — she's dating a CFO (35) who watched her previous appearance, slid into her DMs, and they've been together 2 months. Brian: 'I'm invited to the wedding?'”

ControversyBrenda reveals she was 5150'd after domestic fight with ex on her birthday

“Brenda describes a domestic physical altercation with her ex on her birthday that led to her being handcuffed by police, taken to jail, then 5150'd at a hospital. She bit chunks of his arm while being choked. No charges filed. Ex had called 911. Story includes an OnlyFans subscription to her best friend.”

IntroAndrew Wilson joins remotely — just back from Debate Con

“Brian: 'oh look who it is hey Andrew good to see you man' / Andrew: 'oh do we have sorry I'm late... I was on a trip all weekend'”

QuoteBrenda reveals she had an OnlyFans that she paused when in relationship

“Andrew: 'if you're doing OnlyFans then you can't really have any moral problems with him if he's watching other OF girls' / Brenda admits ex subscribed to her best friend's OF page during arguments.”

Key MomentSelf-ratings round — guests rate their own looks 1-10

“Brenda: 8, Patrice: 8 (originally tried 7), Kelly: 6.9, Ivy: 6, Brian: 5. Andrew: 'I'm probably 4.' Discussion of whether anyone on the panel can be a 10. Debate over Megan Fox comparisons with Brenda.”

ControversyViral breakup TikTok reaction — woman mourning ex who dumped her after she moved

“Panel watches viral video of woman set to sad music detailing how she gave up career/improv troop/savings to move for boyfriend who then dumped her. Patrice most resonant — just lived something similar in Australia. Andrew makes sardonic comments about 'finding himself.' Brian: 'men are not relationship vending machines.'”

ControversyAndrew's argument: women's primary conflict tool is emotional manipulation/slander because they lack access to force

“Andrew: 'men always have an option women don't which is force... what they do instead is their kind of ways of fighting back are either through emotional manipulations or through the idea of slander.' Extended philosophical debate with panel. Brenda concedes women plot and scheme more.”

ControversyWoke feminist debate — Ivy argues women cannot be sexist toward men (requires power)

“Ivy presents academic 'prejudice + power = ism' framework. Andrew and Brian systematically challenge with examples (nurse killing men, woman serial killer, reverse Harvard quota). Ivy eventually concedes on racism against Asian people. Chat: 'the whole idea that sexism is Prejudice plus power is only held by people with room temperature IQ.'”

ControversyWould you send 100 innocent men to prison to prevent 1 rapist from walking free? — Brenda says yes

“Brenda says she would send 100 innocent men to prison for 3 years. Bailey says no. Brian invokes Blackstone's ratio. Andrew calls Brenda a fascist (via chat read by Alina).”

ControversyPatrice reveals her ex forced himself on her on 3 separate occasions

“Brian asks about Patrice's previous disclosure. She reveals her first boyfriend forced himself on her multiple times. She stayed because it was her first relationship and she grew up adopted in rural Pennsylvania, never feeling wanted. Says she eventually understood when she returned from Australia. Emotional moment — panel offers support.”

QuoteAlina: 'I do anything he says, he would never hear the word no' — train accident Patrice bit

“Brian plays Patrice O'Neal comedy clip about keeping your man after losing vagina in train accident. Alina: 'I do anything he says, he would never hear the word no come out of my mouth.' Brian has her repeat it for the audience.”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Statuses

Brian introduces all guests. Each introduces themselves with name, age, location, occupation, education. Then each shares relationship status, single duration, longest relationship, and who broke up with whom.

Types & Dating Preferences

Brian goes around the table asking everyone's type in a partner. Kelly describes wanting a 6'0-6'2" half-Black half-white athletic man. Brenda discusses her preference for light-skinned Latino men. Discussion of Rave culture and whether Brenda would quit raving for a relationship. Career vs. relationship trade-offs. Boss Babe mentality — Brenda admits she'd pick her business over a husband/kids right now.

Ivy's Late Introduction & Single Life

Ivy joins late and introduces herself. Discussion of her 2-year travels, breaking celibacy in October, her current crush (Korean-American, 37). NYC vs. LA dating comparisons. Rosters and situationships. Brenda explains her dating approach — roster of 4 potential lovers, sleeping with only 1.

Brenda's 5150 & Domestic Incident Story

Brian reads Brenda's pre-show notes about a past relationship involving a domestic physical altercation on her birthday. She was arrested, taken to jail, then 5150'd at hospital. Ex called 911, she bit chunks of his arm in self-defense while blacking out from alcohol. She made public statements about it online. They briefly reconciled after she demanded $3k rent from him.

Andrew Wilson Joins — Dating & Relationship Discussion

Andrew Wilson joins remotely. Discussion of red flags in women. Brenda's OnlyFans history and ex subscribing to her best friend's page. Ivy's story of Korean ex buying a dog together and stealing it + $3,000. Discussion of Color Guard and red flags.

Self-Ratings Round (Looks 1-10)

Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Brenda: 8. Patrice: 8 (tried 7). Kelly: 6.9. Ivy: 6. Brian: 5. Mary Grace declined. Alina passed. Andrew debated whether to push back. Discussion of aging, plastic surgery, Megan Fox comparisons, and whether anyone on the panel could ever be a 10.

Viral Breakup TikTok Reaction

Brian plays a viral video of a woman mourning her ex who broke up with her after she moved for him. Panel reacts — Patrice most resonant (just went through something similar in Australia). Andrew makes jokes. Discussion of whether he owes her money legally, common law marriage, women's tears on social media, and Socrates/Aristotle quotes on female nature.

Women's Manipulation vs. Men's Force — Andrew's Philosophical Debate

Andrew makes argument that women's primary conflict tools are slander/emotional manipulation because they lack access to physical force. Debate about whether men should open up emotionally to women (gives them ammunition). Discussion of women narrating their own behavior, men cataloging vulnerabilities. Ivy and Patrice push back from lived experience.

Traditional vs. Modern Relationship Values

Should women take husband's last name? Show of hands on various traditional/modern preferences: men paying for dates, leading, taking initiative. Brian argues men's romantic leadership practice translates to corporate success, explaining the 'gender pay gap.' Discussion of women wanting traditional relationship benefits while also wanting career independence.

Transgender Disclosure & Identity Debate

Do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose? Kelly says no. Ivy says it's straight to date a trans woman if she's had surgery. Andrew debates what constitutes sex vs. gender. Discussion of brain scan studies on gender dysphoria, vampire identity analogy. Andrew leaves the show at ~6:29.

Woke Feminist Debate — Sexism, Racism, Power Dynamics

Ivy's position: women can't be sexist toward men because sexism requires power. Andrew and Brian systematically challenge this with examples. Discussion of whether Asian people can be racist, the Latasha Harlins shooting, property rights and self-defense. Ivy concedes on several points. Brian argues men are primary war victims. Ivy fired from teaching job — disputes whether it was racism.

Would You Send 100 Innocent Men to Prison?

Brian poses hypothetical: would you send 100 innocent men to prison for 3 years to prevent 1 rapist from walking free? Brenda says she would (for 100, hesitates at 1000). Bailey says no. Discussion of Blackstone's ratio foundation of Western justice.

Gender Pay Gap & Women's Oppression Discussion

Are women oppressed in the US? Ivy says yes (de facto). Can people be racist against white people? Discussion of Harvard's Asian quota case. Brian connects women's romantic preferences (wanting men who lead, provide, pay) to why men occupy executive positions — men practice leadership traits in dating.

Patrice's Assault Disclosure

Brian attempts to get clarity on Patrice's previous disclosure about her ex-boyfriend. She reveals he forced himself on her on 3 separate occasions. She stayed because it was her first relationship and she grew up adopted in rural central Pennsylvania without feeling wanted. Emotional and sensitive moment. Panel offers support.

Patrice Honest Comedy Clip & End of Show

Brian plays a classic Patrice O'Neal comedy bit about what women would do to keep a man if they lost their vagina in a train accident. Panel reacts and answers. Makeup removal segment. Show ends with raid on Twitch streamer Grayson.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasintention then they were going to take me were you banging your head on the glass door of the cell oh no because if somebody's hurting themselves that way

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)they're going to no I was just crying were you in a straight Jack you're funny huh no I'm just curious if they put you in a straight jacket no well okay so so when I was actually in there they they'd restrain me because I try to leave I was like I'm going to walk out and I was

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)like I know how to get home so I was like I'm you said that to the police officers in the jail no so this is when I'm already in the hospital sorry my brain goes and when I was in the hospital I was like waiting to like yeah I was in the hospital I was like wait you got restrained to the bed after I

Brendatry to walk out I was like I'm leaving I know how to leave and then they're like Noe you can't leave and I was like yeah I can't wait but there was like a police guard at the hospital right no they had left they had left me with them okay you you're shaking your head you've been

Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)through this before the 5150 I feel her pain no oh you feel her pain oh I I I anybody else here been 5150

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)Mary admit it you you were about to say yes about to say yes but no you haven't been 5150s no okay but I am so grateful for that experience because I wouldn't

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)have what I have right now and I wouldn't have learned like to like not make stupid decisions and get myself into situations I see wow that is complicated that is a

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)complicated that's that's cool or you know what not not cool it is cool because again a lot of growth came from that and I'm like forever grateful that I it sucks that yeah I it had to be like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)that to that degree to where I had to like learn something but like that's just [ __ ] happened then wow cool cool

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)um so it sounds like that didn't work out no sorry well we tried after we went back to each other for a couple months I made a public statement to like protect him because obviously like the stuff

Brian Atlasthat I said was like what you took I'm sorry if a girl takes a flesh out of my body well hold

Brian Atlason if she takes outer flesh out of me I think I have to break up with it you know I think that's break I'm actually not crazy that's the thing no I'm just say I

Brian Atlasknow maybe you know stuff happens whatever just can like casual cannibalism in a relationship but I feel like once she takes once a girl bites

Brian Atlasyour flesh off it's O it has to be a that's a breakup well then like then they'll choke the girl and then she won't bite you sometimes girls ask for that though okay in bed it's different

Unknownin totally different in B by the way I don't who here oh God wants to be choked not now I won't no why sex right why sex

Brian Atlasin bed in B in yes but then you have to me in after Bailey's the freak she she's the freaky one okay yes yes I don't know

Brian Atlaswhat if they tuck you in after and then they cuddle you Alina is more like uh you're Russian right alinaa I just want to hug no alen what what's the she does

Brian Atlascombat sombo in bed that's like the like Russian MMA [ __ ] she like whoa hey hey

Brian Atlasdo that again do it again then he left again yeah oh IM no [ __ ] Alina here she like goes she spars before she has

Brian Atlasshe gets down because she's a combat sombo right you did sombo sure okay good talk um that's cool so

Brian Atlasanyways that's crazy that's a doozy that's that's quite the story um over a laptop right well yeah it goes deep within that like just our relationship entirely you know damn what's up with all y'all wanting to be choked I don't

Brian Atlasknow something happened in like 2017 like it went from like wholesome

Brian Atlaswholesome to like choke me Daddy oh my God what happened to y'all y'all got something H I think you guys got like a V or something interet the internet

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)exploded no but like it it it like reduces like it's like a Euphoria feeling cuz it does it reduces it's it's you can like look into it it's it reduces oxygen so it's like a euphoric like lightheaded like it's there's a

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)reason behind it it's not just because like oh I want to say that I like to be choked cuz it makes me more for fun do you feel like it comes from trauma like you like to get choked in bed because there's like a deep part of you that's like wounded no I mean I definitely have

Mary Gracetrauma but that's not why I like to get choked I did not like it until I met my current boyfriend I would never allow it until I was with my current boyfriend

Brian Atlasyeah the whatever whatever enjoyer yes freaky yeah freak what the [ __ ] um and he didn't send in he I don't think he

Mary Gracesent it no I don't think he did pathetic ume because to me it's not like yeah it's freaky whatever but it's literally

Mary Gracelike I would give you control over my last breath I trust you that much and that's not something I it's and it's hot and then I was withdrawing off of nicotine too so I needed a little Head Rush

Mary Graceum like I'm about to go to work daddy um May you please make me feel alive damic hly and and he doesn't all

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)crazy he's fine and I'm like amen hallelujah but I feel like also there's a right and a wrong way to do it like some guys just don't know how to do it so like if you're not doing there's a difference between a man okay and they know there's a difference

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)between trying to make it an enjoyable experience and trying to like off you like it's just there's a right and a wrong way to do it like fine line grabbing somebody with both hands and

Brian Atlaslike that's not how you do it okay wow you don't like that what the joking like for you and your like here here's the thing right

Brian Atlasis it depend like if it's like a just the hand on the neck and I can put a little weight on it like a little I think I'm okay with that but

Brian Atlaswhen it's like it goes into breath play then I'm a little nervous like if a girl just wants a hand on like and it's like a li that's okay but then you got to be careful like some of these girls men if if you're doing that at least for advice

Brian Atlasfor men if you're doing that with a chick you got to get her to text you that [ __ ] like she has to text you I want you to do this [ __ ] because I ain't going to I'm not going to be in a position dealing with a chick and she's

Brian Atlaslike I want you to smack me around you got to like say that [ __ ] on camera if and first off I don't want to smack I I'm not I wouldn't smack a girl around like that's that's a boundary even if she wants it [ __ ] you I ain't doing that

Brian Atlas[ __ ] but like a choke or something hair pulling whatever spanking I I'll do it yeah but there's a fine line of like you want to you want [ __ ] bruises on your body you got to be on [ __ ] camera telling me that [ __ ] but I'm not doing

Brian Atlasit anyways I'm not putting bruises on a girl valid um but uh some more like T more tame stuff I'm okay with um but any any guys out there who like are into the

Brian Atlasthat stuff and the chick's like maybe you're a little naive and she's like oh I want you to put bruises on me hit me whatever bro you got to get her to say that [ __ ] on camera you got to protect yourself in

Brian Atlasthat kind of situation cuz you know what I mean mean chat you know what I mean she knows what I mean you know what I they know

Brian Atlaswhat I mean uh I don't know look if if it turns my partner on right there are things that don't do anything for me but if it it helps them out I'll do it and and so like if it turns them on it'll

Brian Atlasturn me on but there are just some certain things I'm not going to do so yeah what if you just like try everything once and if you don't like it you don't have to try it again there

Brian Atlassome things I just will not do 100% boundary like if she wants me to I don't know I wouldn't like smack a girl across

Brian Atlasthe face I wouldn't do that no way how will spit in her mouth uh sure why

Brian Atlasnot that was guttural I why not not my thing but if it whatever if you know look sometimes you care about your partner you care about your partner's

Brian Atlaspleasure they got something a little quk you're interest in if it's not anything that's a boundary what you can kind of I think it's fine I think it's

Brian Atlasfine uh yeah good talk okay sick all right sick yeah exactly uh uh so okay we have Jay Nico here we have a couple

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)Chads there aren't you know what uh P Patrice excuse me can you read it can you be the reader there aren't enough red flags for chair one this is

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)why no decent man will date a Raver ethought chair eight can we clone clone you you must be protected at all

Brian Atlascosts oh Cher No your cherry your cherry thank you look look into that camera and wink hey CLI clip it and Chip it boys

Brian Atlasclip it and Chip it uh let's see here uh we have a and I think is Andrew oh [ __ ] sorry uh I haven't been checking my phone I think Andrew's ready we're going

Alinato try to get him on Yoo can uh Elena read Mike Davis's read Mike Davis for us what's up y'all it's Mike Davis I hope you'all been in the lab working on your craft instead of sitting behind the

Brian Atlasscreen busting nuts and dropping your welfare checks on these degenerate 304s stop making excuses and feeling sorry for yourselves time to level up first

Brian Atlasoff Mike Davis I uh Mike Davis is the the OG hold on let me that's what I'm talking about that's

Brian Atlaswhy he's do that's why he's the goat he is the goat He's a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer Mike Davis I don't know here I'm GNA pull it back up I don't know the

Brian Atlaslast time you've sent in a super chat but it's really good to see you man I hope your 2025 is off to a great start I hope you've opened up a bunch more

Brian AtlasBurger King franchises maybe you can like get Quiznos up in running again too uh thank you so much man really appreciate the Super Chat this guy is the OG he he's been here since I don't

Brian Atlasknow the exact number of the episode when he first started but I think it was like the first 10 first 20 you're an OG back in I mean it was for sure back in

Brian Atlas2022 uh you've been with us for a while uh I know you don't stop by as often as you used to but it's really good to see you uh you pretty much you single-handedly kept the show going

Brian Atlasearly on because you were like our number or kind of like our you daon Jackson uh were like our kind of really initial patrons uh but primarily you Mike so I want to do a big shout out to you it's good to see you we haven't seen

Brian Atlasyou in a bit but thank you so much man I hope you're off to I hope you're doing well man uh let's see we have do we have Andrew do we got do we have him oh oh look who it is hey Andrew good to see

Andrew Wilsonyou man oh do we have sorry I'm late oh you're good yeah I was on a I was on a trip all weekend and I I just didn't get much sleep so no it's all good how was

Andrew Wilsondebate con man it was great it was great we uh we hijacked the entire thing it was fantastic uh we uh we basically took it over strong arm James pretty proud of

Brian Atlasthat so yeah it was good did you I I didn't see get to see much just CU I had my own show going but uh did you debate with bana woo or was that somebody else

Brian Atlasthat was Wit It Austin wit it w got it I have debated with woo before yeah good stuff good stuff well welcome to the panel this is Andrew Wilson welcome welcome all right uh we're going to get into I

Brian Atlasdon't know if you were listening but we're just going to get into some of the rest of the show here um so let's see uh oh oh last thing for this guy you said

Brian Atlasto make it a bit more juicier oh yeah this same man had an only fan subscription to your best friend and

Brendawould use it anytime you had an argument huh what yeah huh huh that's right what yeah yeah get it here yeah to be fair um so I I wanted to like like put it on the

Brendatable so he doesn't look like some like like or my ex doesn't look like some like weird weird man but I also had an O and I wouldn't utilize it yeah I I wouldn't use it but it was just there to like uh collect the money that was from

Andrew Wilsonthe subscribers that were like already U like there and um I got it before we wait wait wait hang on hang on before you continue what do you mean it was just there to collect money from

Brendasubscribers who already there oh like I don't post on it I don't send out anything I just um I've had subscribers cuz when I posted about it a lot of people ended up subscribing and ended up staying and they just pay per month

Brendawaiting for me to post oh but you don't post anything uh at that time no because we were in we got into a relationship and he felt uncomfortable with it so I

Brendastopped I see yeah okay yeah thanks yeah um so because that existed um I think probably like it triggered him in his

Brendamind to like think that it was okay to like do that um and yeah he did that he uh she was a good friend of mine and anytime we had

Brendaan argument he would go and look at it and he admitted to it and um yeah isn't that kind of a good strategy though if you think about it from the angle of the

Andrew Wilsonboyfriend so like if you're doing if you're doing of then you can't really have any moral problems with him if he's watching other of girls right that's what I mean by that's what he was

Brendaprobably thinking that's why like he want he was okay with doing that but I was really hurt in the moment of course when I found out I was like you know F you like we're not going to talk anymore and

Brendaum yeah so it actually gets really juicy and I'm down to share it so when we were fighting during that moment um I had I was already back at my apartment and we

Brendawere texting this argument and um he wanted to talk so bad with me I was like we're not to talk like I I don't want to talk to you and then I actually blocked him and then um he was like anything he called me again and he was like anything

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)that you need like from a a private number anything that you need like just like I want I I want to work on this I want to fix this um because around this time is when I was like making a public statement to try to like defend what had happened before like what I had said him

Brendalike you know abusing me and stuff like that and I was like all right then U send me send me my rent send me 3K and I'll talk to you and um he sent me my rent and then we had a conversation and then we got back together again

Brendaso that's that's yeah messy girl that was messy brain messy bra get your bag wait so are you still talking to him no God no God no yeah know but the best friend that he was subscribed to like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)did y'all still keep in contact oh yeah she's my girl like like still yeah I'm not going to get mad at it wasn't her fault it's not yeah it's not her fault yeah it's not her fault but wouldn't you still feel uncomfortable though like if I catch my man like I wouldn't have an

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)only fans but let me say like I would be in your situation and where happened to me wouldn't you still feel uncomfortable he's if you have only fans he can go subscribe to any girl but that he specifically chose your best friend don't you think that's kind of weird

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)yeah it's weird on his end but like it's not her fault yeah it's not her fault I'm not saying it's her fault I'm just saying wouldn't you feel uncomfortable like around like my girlfriend yeah some people might yeah I mean maybe it took me a while to like re uh like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)reconnect with her on like the level that we were at but it just came naturally it's kind of like going with the flow and not really thinking too much about it sure you if anything he he told on himself like there's guys that hang out with their with their

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)girlfriend and her friends all the time and they secretly are thinking probably nine times out of 10 oh that friend I would do this that and the other thing with he he told on himself he told

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)exactly what friend and exact he he made her more perceptive to the situation probably yeah I actually really like that story because I think I went through like a similar problem with two

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)guys that I dated and they both both liked like my friend first and so it was really tough for me cuz like oh no one of them was the ex I was talking about the one that I broke up to go to the military we met up again after we broken

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)up in Korea and then like he said he you know wanted to like you know still be with me but then as soon as he met my friend they started talking and he was like oh you know I didn't see a future with Ivy I really like you like can we

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)go out and then she I only knew her for a week at that point but I really liked her a lot and so I'll be honest it is really tough and the same ex he also hit on my best friend in college at UCSD 2 years prior and so and I still stayed

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)with that guy but it like is tough I will say like these friendships like the girls like as long as the guys out of the picture you can still be friends with the girl but like when I was still dating that guy I like lost that best friend at UCSD and so I don't talk to

Brendaher anymore and so it's really sad I'm like oh I really resonate with that a lot it's the mental mind game you know like if you tell yourself like this person is I'm going to be uncomfortable around this person you're going to be uncomfortable but like if you just don't

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)really think about it that in that way then you just but you're just shoving it down though no no well I I went to therapy and I talked about it yeah no I I'm I Journal I meditate every day like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)I I I'm still dealing with like the whole like healing process but I'm at a place where I could talk about it and not like um did you say um did you say

Andrew Wilsonthat you journal and you what oh I journal and I practice mindful meditation on your journey yeah I guess myour healing

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)yeah I guess yeah yeah I mean it's it's helpful like uh I looked into a stoicism and a taism and a lot of like these philosophies have really like rewired my

Brendabrain to like not be um toxic what's your favorite thing about stoicism the fact that you're not attached to someone's decision and um it

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)doesn't just it I feel like I'm more in tune with my with my inner emotion because I don't let my actions be be dictated off of someone else's actions and I think that's something that I

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)struggled with in the past if like I needed to be validated I needed to control a situation and it would lead me into like what had happened you know and

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the moment that I detached and detached but still like with love I was able to just fully um feel like more peace of

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)mind and more calm and just yeah more calm are you like the oldest child no I'm the youngest oh wow the

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)heck a lot of burden on yourself how so like I just think that yeah it seems like you did a lot of self work cuz you know like when you're younger you felt like you had to control all the situations and that's like a

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)very older child mentality to have cuz I feel younger kids are just like you know they're the last ones so the parents like really chill with them they don't have to like hide things or like care about like more yeah yeah they're more a

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)little more spoiled they tend to be well I was 5150 so it's like I'm at rock bottom and I thought I couldn't go any lower and I just kept getting lower and I'm like all right Brenda like let's figure this [ __ ] out let's actually like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)try to be a good person and um learn from this and so I feel like I I had to like there was no other way I was just going to keep I was going to keep going lower keep going lower wait is your name is Brenda uhuh I'm so sorry I didn't get

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)everyone's name can everyone like say their name again for me Brenda and then Patrice Patrice Kelly Kelly oh hi Bailey baile

Kelly/Otherstep step Mary Mary Alina Alina oh you look like the Alina from like Vampire Diaries like Elena Elena I like how you

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)how you repeated all of their names so that okay Brenda P patri patri Kelly you almost say

Kelly/OtherKorea Karina no not even close Bailey Bailey Bailey oh Bailey

Kelly/Otheryeah and then Steph wow M Mary Mary Mary and last one Alina yes Elina yeah thank

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you I love that that's a really good strategy and you I I I Bailey yes now I have everyone's name cuz I joined late I was like oh it feels

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)uncomfortable I don't I'm talking to like random people right now but now I have your names out right you got it I be all right uh somebody take that pen from her because it's a menace I do

Brian Atlasfidget a lot I'm gonna just check it watch oh no oh I wasn't trying I wasn't trying to throw it to you but I was just going to throw it and let it let the chips fall where they may uh good he did

Brian Atlasa good catch though it was a good he used to play baseball um all right so let's get into the notes sorry guys I had to step away there for a sec uh let's see uh here I'm going to do I almost want to just jump into the question ER because it's kind of more

Brian Atlasinteresting and then we'll do some of your guys's uh notes Ivy you said you dated a guy for a month and then he broke up and stole your dog in $3,000 oh my God yeah I told you that yeah yeah

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)what's the story uh this the story is um it's really traumatizing actually but yeah so this guy also I was telling you about another guy that liked my friend first as well and so we had met on the streets in Hond I don't know if you guys

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)have been to Korea but there's like a street it's really popular for like clubs people shop walking okay you met there what happened and then we didn't meet there he just like he asked my friends out on the street so he went up to my friend thought she was pretty asked her out and then she was scared to

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)go on a date with him because he was a random go on the street and so she you went on the date with so she asked me ivy can you and manami which is her Japanese roommate can you two girls come with me on the date so it's one guy and

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)we only met him the day before and it was three girls and then during that day or it wasn't a day it was like a hangout then he like picked us up from our school we were studying at yon and then he took us to this really beautiful

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)pasta restaurant in Yong and then yeah it was really nice and then we actually hit off really well cuz he studied at uiu so it's like you know a college in the states he studied abroad most of his life so he spoke fluent English and so I

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)think that's why we hit it off cuz he's like oh I haven't used this much English in so long and then at the time I was actually dating a guy in La it was like this Korean Chef that didn't speak

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)English and so yeah I was pretty bad but I started to like him and then I broke up with my the boyfriend I was dating LA to date that guy and yeah from the minute we met to them to us dating it

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)took us like a week and we went on a trip with all our friends to Busan and then yeah it was a pretty good time for a while but we fought a lot and then the the breakup story oh I'm 80s I'm so

Brian Atlassorry I always give so much details okay the end of the story yeah sorry I just kind of checked out there after like 20 irrelevant details so um what okay so

Andrew Wilsonyou met him in the street in Korea and then uh so oh wait a second Brian I was very interested in what type of street lights were there and Cur was there what what

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the color you're good girl I do the same [ __ ] you have ADHD yeah I think that's why I was a school teacher it fit me so I totally viid very Vivid details wait you were a school teacher I used to work

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)in a school in Oakland yeah you taught children things I taught like 120 kids I was a seventh grade teacher yeah uh English

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)teacher and I worked in San Francisco too so I lived in the bay before I moved back to LA okay yeah so this is um thank you yeah so this is all before I became a teacher and then yeah so I guess me and

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)that guy we kind of knew was like eventually like going to be long distance cuz I had to go back to America where I had the teaching job lined up um but yeah we tried to like make things work we hung out every single day it was a very intense relationship and but it

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)only lasted a month because towards the end I was like oh you know he said like it'll be cute we got dog together so like I'll like take care of him while you're gone in the states I like oh yeah that's a cute idea so we went to the

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)premium pet store and we saw a dog and the dog was like $600 it was a cute little palm spit and I really loved it we named it like duik at the to it was well I mean and it of course was really tiny one of those like yeah yeah one of

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the fluffy white dogs I love fluffy white dogs I freaking love them and so and you okay hang on and you gave it a zany name didn't you yeah tushi I don't even know what it means to this day yeah

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)he chose that name I don't know what that name means and so it was a really cute dog but then basically um he was living with a roommate like not roommate like they live in the same room but like they had like it was a two- bedroom right and his was like oh I actually

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)don't like having Ivy over all the time and at the time I was living in the dorms in Korea and so I can't have guest over and I can't have a dog either

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)so my so yeah I know this is really funny you're getting us go ahead and so the mov on the inside so the roommate was like okay she not come over anymore and I was like I'm literally going to

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)leave back to the state soon so I don't know why he cares and also I bought you guys a dog so I should like be able to come out and see the dog and so he fought with me about that saying like oh I can't do anything about that it's like my roommate and so I told him like can you just man up a little bit and then he

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)got really upset and I kind of like compared him to my ex-boyfriend which is like not good on my part and it's so funny cuz the entire time we were on the drive up to nsan Tower to do like a Love Lock I don't know if you guys know what that is but

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)it's like oh we' began a relationship it's like serious like oh it's like cute you just go up and you lock it in and then we're going to do that and so on the way up we got into a fight and so he was like I'm just going to drop you off at your dorm and then on the way drive

Andrew Wilsonback we stopped on the streets at shinan and so me I don't want to interrupt your story but I just want to let you know I'm eating some of my daughter's birthday cake and you can't have any I really love cake you don't you don't

Brian Atlasgive happy birthday I want you to can you say the following say the following this one time at band camp and I I actually was in band camp

Andrew Wilsontoo time wow called it I did colting detail tell us about band camp oh it was no I was Color Guard Color

Brian AtlasGuard Color Guard yeah oh why oh why wait hold on I got to get into this you did color guard red flag wait what how was that a red flag

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)massive red flag it wasn't like probably were carrying around a red flag too yeah my flag was see it was cuz we were doing like some like uh the show I what's it

Brian Atlascalled the theme was like were you the flag carrier uh wait no every girl has a flag oh that's duh okay yeah yeah skill you skill I wasn't trying to I wasn't

Brian Atlaslike a what's the word for that uh no it is actually a red flag though yeah it was a a red color flag and my my costume was all red it's a red flag wait I don't

Brian Atlasknow why think I'm a red fly it's like theater it's like one step removed from theater that's a red flag but that well you don't want to if

Brian Atlasif you heard my list of red flags that's like 70% of like everybody but um can we hear them huh can we hear some of them cheerleader yeah I have a list hold on I'll pull it up um we'll come right back to your story hopefully we can finish it

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)before the end of the show but I want to know why like what makes you feel like it's a red FL there's just certain interests where I'm like you know guided

Andrew Wilsonlike guided meditation uhoh how many red flags can you overlook before they're out oh I don't know for you that's a red flag uh okay here here's some red flags any any of any of that goofy ass hippie

Andrew Wilsoncult [ __ ] it's always a red flag it's always like my interpersonal journey to heal my Trauma from the time that my dog was kidnapped by my ex-boyfriend's best

Andrew Wilsonfriend it slain my heart for DEC I'll never get yeah it's like all yeah well that honestly that's a lot of strength you know the fact that you're able just like

Brendanot but how about how about Neuroscience do you [ __ ] with science Neuroscience what what's what's science NE like the the brain the science of do you [ __ ]

Brian Atlaswith the war Andrew do you [ __ ] with the war do you [ __ ] with science Andrew I think be [ __ ] around with a little bit of neuros wait Andrew but aren't you Andrew aren't you you do do you believe

Unknownyou have to apply the proper controls actually yeah anyway all right anyways um so anyways um and red flags whatever you

Brian Atlaswant to hear my red okay Pitbull owner okay pitpull if maybe a pitbull apologist so you don't own a pitbull but you're just like

Brian Atlasoh it's the owner it's not the bre oh I see what you're saying eh no they're dangerous dogs um bell bottoms red B bom I mean this is a this is for I mean this isn't even a red flag I would

Brian Atlasjust walk out if she if she looks at her phone on the first date like if it's it's okay if it's like this cuz some people take it like oh really no it's like if she's like hey sorry I just got to text my mom that I'm here or you know

Brian Atlassomething like that that's cool but if she's like scrolling on Snapchat scrolling on Instagram I'm literally I've done this on a date I won't even say anything I'll just get up and walk I'm not going to I'm not going to I'm

Brian Atlasnot going to say say anything to you I'm not going to be like yo what are you doing on your phone I'm not trying to have an argument for you you've already demonstrated that you're [ __ ] rude I ain't dealing with it goodbye it was

Brian Atlasnice knowing you so I'm just outp I've had to do that two times actually and the girls are pissed off afterward oh my God that was so rude I'm like you were on your phone right yeah well I mean it displays that they're not interested in my like if you have to scroll through

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)your phone you're scrolling through Instagram or something unless you were having a conversation like oh I I have a like I have a Belgium malma for example and like I would always kind of use that as a talking point on a date I'll be oh like yeah I could I could show you a photo I mean that's a little different but if you just blank out on the date

Brian Atlasand you're like scrolling and I'll give you some more of them okay van lifer she does van life I would agree that's if she does Acro yoga red flag just Acro yoga or all yoga Acro yoga cuz that's

Brian Atlaswhen they're doing that [ __ ] with a dude I don't like that I don't like that um let's see here uh hair stylist Works in HR flight attendant travel nurse any

Brian Atlascareer where she travel frequently pharmaceutical sales cuz they're traveling a ton and [ __ ] doctors um flirting with doctors so they can right

Brian Atlascan I add a conflict resolution [Music] management conflict CR M conflict resolution like

Andrew WilsonHR HR can be a type of job that does conflict res resolution management but a teacher resolution have been adding

Andrew Wilsonconflict resolu resolution managers to make sure that their employees can resolve conflicts got it yeah that's a good one

Brian Atlasthat's a good one uh oh what else let's see oh then and then some tattoos don't mind but no offense Brenda sternum

Brian Atlastattoo red flag wait what tattoo sternum tattoo you have a sternum I do St my first one too me too oh he lifted her shirt

Brian Atlasflag red flag uh let's see spider any spiderweb tattoos especially on the uh are you have no if they have spiderweb tattoo on

Brian Atlasthe elbow that yeah that that be careful there or a spider tattoo or a snake tattoo those are usually a little and

Brian Atlasany snake tattoo enjoyers here havers and uh I think that's pretty much it is having a cat a

Brian Atlasred flag I feel like that's a red I like cats okay oh good I like dogs and cats uh yeah anyways uh so okay I don't know whatever uh

Brian Atlasso uh your your guy stole $3,000 and stole your dog what what's the what happened what happened did she already finish the story I just kind of tuned out I know it takes me a long time to

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)tell St it takes me a long time to tell stories that's why I don't usually I but did you get to the part about the $3,000 getting to it it was almost there I have to give backstory like you know you got

Andrew Wilsonto understand like who they are and like how you met them for you to like be involved in theory little bit more where we emphasize the last thing we say

Brian Atlasyou're a hater oh come on there's funny funny do I talk weird why you why you laughing Dam play the play the YouTube thing play the YouTube thing wait you know what I think this is the

Brian Atlasappropriate time we're not going to pull up the video okay just you know what pull up the video [ __ ] it pull up the video the video the the the not the Tik Tok okay

Brian Atlasyou know the YouTube video yeah yeah we're going to this is not dating related actually did you know what it is dating related it is dating related go

Mary Grace[Music] ahead no but I like to hang out with my family a lot hang out with my sister we go get our nails done any ladies in here your nails

Mary Gracedown nice on his crowd how about any guys any guys down from anny Petty don't lie sir don't lie don't lie I can see your nail polish gleaming in the lights

Mary Graceright now don't lie it's all sparkly you take him with you huh yeah see she rided you out dude I'm just kidding I'm just kidding no me and my sister we go over um it's a place called Beautiful nail I

Mary Gracewas kind of confused when I first read the sign though beautiful na

Mary Gracenail just one just one nail do I get to pick which one or now with these ladies they're so nice you know they make you feel like it's

Mary Graceall about you and customer service you know whatever you lie we do for you I am vames too what the heck really nice

Mary Graceyeah as soon as I walk in they greet me right away hi honey what you need

Mary Gracetoday oh um can I get my nails done okay honey do you lie pedicure too uh no no just my nails honey why you don't

Mary Gracelie pedicure it may look nigh it's so sexy it's better for you oh oh all right sure then I'll get a

Mary Gracepedicure too thanks okay honey sit down I'm sck my L she do for you good job only $20 that's okay sit down oh okay thanks so my Ling starts

Mary Gracedoing my nails right away um by the way her American name is Tammy

Mary GraceTammy you have friends wow good

Mary Graceum no no I I don't have a boyfriend honey why you don't have you look so pretty like model chill leader something

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)pretty I don't know why I why I don't know why I'm okay just [ __ ] yeah she did a great job yeah she I hope she's Vietnamese is she

Andrew WilsonVietnamese I think that's really weird that she got the accent what the heck do you know how to do the hang on back back can we just acknowledge the fact that there was a female comedian up there and

Andrew Wilsonyou when she was done you didn't say she was funny you said she did a great job has anybody in the history of the world ever walked away from comedy show and been like well yeah they did a great job

Andrew WilsonI've never heard that once oh really I think cuz some my friends are supposed to be like they were hilarious they were super funny we were dying laughing I've heard all that I've never heard they've done it they did a great job

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)no it's cuz I understand how Comedy Works some of my friends work as comedian so I see the way she wrote her joke and the way she paused I'm like oh that was a really good job like she scripted it really well and then her

Brian Atlasaccent like her voices I think that she portrayed that character really well as well so I just look at a to be fair we we didn't finish the whole bit because it was too there was more yeah there was more it was I'm sure it would have

Brian Atlasgotten way funnier if you would have just let I prob yeah probably um but Andrew you weren't a fan and it sounds like you didn't think it was very funny he said it I thought it was hilarious I

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)was laughing the whole time her accent is the is good mhm can anybody she did a great job we or get used to with did theay my nails were done by Vietnamese

Brian Atlaslady in Vietnam in in wait in I just came back from Vietnam yesterday oh from yesterday okay that's cool rock and roll okay well uh I don't I have no idea why

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)I pulled that up just just Del cuz I sound like that is that why no no ST it was Andrew's fault I went Wonder Andrew told me to pull it up

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)Andrew told me to Andrew sent me the video Andrew sent me the video he's like Brian play this right now cuz he was saying he was commenting about your voice people comment about that my students in Oakland were like Miss Ivy

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you sound like you have a list you sound like you have an Asian accent I always get have an Asian accent but I was born in America you like a like a little bit a little bit I think the past like few years I

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)spent more time in Asia than in the states so I think I adapted the okay uh all right let's see we okay

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the here stole your dog $300,000 no 3,000 imagine 300, Sor 3,000 my bad oh my God how did he steal the dog was it just like you couldn't have it at your apartment so he ended up like ultimately taking it like I had my dog really

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)stolen like really went to domestic violence over wondering just never tell the story go ahead no no that's true actually I guess you know on paper it was technically his dog cuz he was Korean so he put the dog under his name

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)and then we were on the street so he was like I'm going to drop you off your dorm and I told him no don't drop me off my dorm drop me off at this Cafe and so it was a cafe next to our college and my friend was waiting for me already there the girl that he had originally asked

Brian Atlasout on right here I'm just going to okay I'm going to just ask questions so that we can get to the bottom of the story I was almost done no no no how long were you guys she doing a great job yeah I

Brian Atlasthink I was doing a good job how long were you guys dating um a little over a month okay and so you guys bought a dog together uh technically I paid for all

Brian Atlasof it you paid for the dog okay but it was in his name yeah oh you guys were dating for a month and you bought a dog

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)together yeah he I really liked him at the time the guy how does one put a dog in their name okay but have you guys ever dated like a Korean guy they're very like fast they move very fast and

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)they're very emot you living together oh no as it happens neither myself nor Brian have Korean guys yeah it's like you know like I hate to say it but it's like very similar to those like movies that you see like they'll say a lot of

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)stuff and they'll do a lot for you but anyways um we weren't living together but we basically were cuz I was kind of staying with him every day at his uh at his appointment how much was the dog uh it was like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)$600 and then whose idea was it to get the dog it was um his idea he was like oh be cute we got a dog I was like oh my God yeah I've always wanted a dog and so

Brian Atlasthat's why okay so you paid for it mhm and then so you but you guys broke up or whatever it was a really bad breakup yeah what do you mean bad for a month oh a little over a month I was like when

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you say it was a really bad breakup what you me like I I've never like been so heartbroken like my friends were like you're going crazy Ivy I was kind of going crazy yeah I like when you say you were going crazy what were you doing uh

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)just like I think every day just like crying a lot I think that's crazy to me and the breakup he initiated it uh no uh basically like I would say at the time I was still young so when he had done that

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)to me where he just dropped me off I have this like back then I don't have it now I have this toxic trick where if they do something bad to me I immediately block their number like even though we didn't break up yet so we didn't break up he just said like oh just I'm going to drop you off and then

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)he took the dog I was like wait the today is like my day with the dog I'm going to take her but he just like you know he's pretty strong so my friend and him were actually fighting so my best friend and him were fighting together for the dog he took it and then she ran

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)after him he was driving actually and she actually ran after him she's very very good friend and then she got into his car she actually opened the door so hard that she slammed his um window thing against the pole and he got really

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)mad and then yeah but then she told me like oh he'll be back later he'll talk to you and I said oh I don't want to talk to him ever again after what he did so I blocked him and then he tried to call me text me but I still blocked him sure how did he steal

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)$3,000 um so that was like um 2 weeks after the breakup yeah okay how did he how did he do it so there was a period of time like maybe like a week we just went without talking but like every day

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)we'll kind of like text each other like oh hi like something like that and then one day he was like oh can we meet up I was like yeah sure and he was like oh I'm going through something and I was like what's up and he's like can we like meet up in person and then yeah so he we

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)went to his car picked me up from the dorm and then he was like oh I have like this large credit card bill and like I can't take money out of my bank account and I was like I felt bad cuz you know yeah at the time I was making quite a bit of money in Korea so I was like oh

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)how much do you need he's like oh this much oh yeah I have that like in my purse right now and then you had just C you had 3,000 in cash yeah in my purse wait was and just uh oh this is like in

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)Korean money this so it's like 3,000,000 no it's $3,000 equivalent in Korean money which it's just like maybe 4.5 million four milon what's the name of

Brian Atlasthe currency in uh ju Korean ju okay but so converted it's 3,000 USD um okay and you just had that in your purse and this

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)was in Korea yeah yeah and we were in his car and then um I was like oh yeah and then I was thinking about it for a bit I was like what exactly you use it for he just said I'm pay off my credit card bill I'll pay you back when my

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)brother goes to college and I he'll VMO you and I was like okay yeah because I know both of the brothers they studied abroad and stuff so I know that they're good for it and then yeah he just took it and then I like reminded him like a

Brian Atlascouple months later when I was back back in like the bay wait hold really quick from for the rest of the show can whatever the question is and you're like about to tell a story I want you to

Brian Atlasstart this story by saying this one time at band camp so I'm I interrupted it so we'll we'll do the inter so so say this one time at B camp and now continue on with the story but I but this didn't B

Brian AtlasCamp do I know but just you just have to do it I'm sorry just do it go go go go go say it this one time at B Camp that's it yeah but but say it for real no this is for Real this one time yeah no no no

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)this one time at band camp and then continue with your story this one time at band camp okay keep going and then to keep going with the story yeah um I left Korea and then I never saw him again since then and I

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)never saw the money and that I hear to this day that he uses the dog to pick up other girls on the streets yeah so we cut wa a couple things here so from the day that you gave him the money and then

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)how soon after did you leave um I left maybe a month after and did was did he tell you he was going to pay you back yeah of course he said I'm going to pay back I wouldn't have given it to him if he didn't say and did you ask him I asked him many times to pay me back even

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)after you came back to the USA yeah yeah I called him no we we got into a call it was really cute I was in Sano I was like in s why does it matter

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you could have been in [ __ ] Antarctica it doesn't matter where you were but okay my friend tells me that she's like I be like when you like do your video sometimes you start off with

Brian Atlaslike the time and the place and no one cares what what uh what um was it Autumn or fall this was wait that's the same fall this was fall oh it was fall okay was it uh what was the temperature it

Brian Atlaswas like 800 p.m. that day what was the temperature chil was it a chilly it was a chilly San Francisco fall day color were his SS that day yeah what did you have for

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)lunch on that I had salmon with rice but but so uh you called him I don't know I did we got to um a call so basically my friend had threatened him she texted him saying that like if you don't reply to Ivy or if you don't give her back her money

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)then I'm going to tell like all your friends something what you did and then he was like okay so he actually called me back he messaged me in kaca talk and it was like oh iy let's talk and then we got into kaca talk um and we called each other and it was really fun we talked

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)for like 2 hours we laughed he said like oh I'm going to pay you back and all that stuff and I like okay awesome and then yeah I followed up with him a year after that he didn't and actually a year after that I went back to Korea with the new guy I was dating so I was dating

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)this new guy and they had the same last name and then I told him I told my ex I was like I'm back in Korea I'm here if you can give me the money that'll be great he was like yeah let me get it to you and then he just ghosted

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)me yeah yeah that's what happened that um damn but my mom said that there's Karma and so she said that you shouldn't worry

Brian Atlasabout that because I get him uh well I mean but hold on when it comes to the dog you were in Korea but you knew with intention you were going back to the

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)United States right yeah so it seems like it well hold on I mean I wasn't take the dog with me to America it's so hard to import pets in and out of the country I just tried

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)to do this in Australia and it's literally insane they Services they have servic it cost like $10,000 per pet they have to be quarantined same thing in America for like 30 days it's so

Brian Atlasstressful and it's really I honestly so okay here's my assessment the dog thing yeah you paid for it but like you you bought it in his country it's his dog it it was idea were

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you were you going to you were going to pay to have the dog sh flown it's so they have like puppy Carrier Services so a lot of a lot of families in America like a lot of Korean families they import the dog from Korea it's really

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)regardless of could you afford that for like 10 grand no it's like it's one 1,000 just bought new dog completely

Brian Atlaswa stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop you bought the dog for $600 why would you ship I mean look I know you get a you had the dog for like

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)a couple weeks you could just buy a new dog I know but this dog was really cute what yeah it's a pump spits and it was really quiet so like out of all the dogs that in the town like this one didn't

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)bark that okay cool so did you like bomb with it though you just said it was really cute if I lost my dog I would be distraught she's like my best friend yeah this was 2 years ago I was that's why I said it was really bad for me I

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)lost a lot of weight my friends were like oh Ivy you seem like pretty like yeah I I was like half the size I was now basically yeah so okay um so okay

Brian Atlasthe dog thing whatever the 3,000 I think you're in the right there you loaned him the money he said he would pay you back he should pay you back that's wrong he didn't steal it

Brian Atlasfrom you though you have no he didn't but you said stole your stole your dog and the 3K I think sort of way to say I I don't think he stole the dog uh there's a dispute a civil on hold on

Brian Atlashold on hold on hold on ask there's a civil dispute over the dog there's a civil dispute over the 3,000 if he went into your purse and took the money out

Brian Atlasof your purse that would be stealing 3,000 civil I think he would if you went in front of a court or something he would owe you $3,000 you loaned him money he either isn't

Brian Atlasable to or is unwilling to pay it back I don't think that that's theft or stealing um I am a little confused though on the dog front despite your feelings towards him and the love

Brian Atlasbombing or whatever it was why you would purchase a dog with somebody with the intention of like wanting to keep it knowing that you were leaving the

Brian Atlascountry in one month time that's a little bit confusing to me you probably I mean this guy maybe does this to other women though this could be like a Tinder swindler sort of thing like do you think

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you know what's so funny is that you mentioned that because the day after he asked my friend out she swiped on Tinder and she saw him on Tinder wow are you um are you do you consider yourself a bit

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)naive uh I think I think I take good care of myself I don't think so I don't consider myself just but people might say though people might say

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)I don't have I I like if I was in a foreign country it wasn't that foreign to me cuz I went there so many times you're Vietnamese right it's I'm I'm American Vietnamese American Vietnamese Chinese American

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)right but you don't have citizenship in Korea no I do you have citizenship in Vietnam or no uh no I don't okay and I was living there too okay um I think citizenship doesn't matter there's people that have American citizenships

Brian Atlasand they wouldn't say they're American but I mean you you had a plan you were coming back to the United States I don't think you like if you're about to leave a country I don't think you give somebody

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)$3,000 oh about about to leave you he said he was going V me back I have I have a question about the dog would you still have been upset about it if he gave you back the $33,000 and said listen I really want to keep the dog like I was the one that wanted

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the dog the dog I don't know boy or girl she it he I don't know lives with me I will give you $3,600 to let the dog go would you have said okay yeah I just told him if you can keep the dog if you want just like you know give me the $600

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)and he couldn't yeah all right um I'm very reasonable how be honest though how how often were you harassing him oh I was

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)not a good girlfriend yeah oh sorry I was say yeah I wasn't like a good girlfriend back then cuz like I think that he promised me a lot of stuff so I was like oh since you promised this you know I can demand it I was kind of like that so I was a

Brian Atlaslittle bit high maintenance and that but were you like the with the whole dog thing the $33,000 even like I imagine you were

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)blowing up his phone oh sending a messages [ __ ] you like I don't do that no I don't I don't say me messages cuz I think those things can be like yeah I don't like that blow up all right we

Brian Atlashave a chat here from Jason oh my God who the hell cares chair for okay thank you uh Jason casselle thank you for the 100 man I do really appreciate the message thank you so much we have Stiffler ask actually yeah that's fine

Brian Atlasask everyone oh no I have to wait until she's back one moment uh one moment there oh we have hold on oh damn this guy sent it in three wait hold

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Brian Atlasand contribution to go to the whatever podcast whatever pod on there links in the description read 100 tts2 200 guys like the video if you can all right uh I do have to wait for that one really

Brian Atlasquick so I'll just do a quick note from somebody else here while does anybody here have plastic surgery fake

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)boobs lip filler I have lip filler lip filler lip filler I you me my lips are uneven i w consider that plastic surgery

Brian Atlasthough because it it um it dissolves after after like six to 12 months cool uh ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you cannot pick seven rate your own looks on a scale of

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)1 to 10 starting with you Brenda go ahead I got eight eight okay I think that's a really objective question I know this is a long-winded answer for something that weol like and should just be short but objectively compared to

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)what like there's women that have plastic surgery that don't really look like that in Miami who are objectively tens but if they didn't have that plastic surgery they'd be a five so like there's this joke where I live I live in a very small town and the joke is like

Brian Atlasfor that small town they're a nine but if you put them in Miami they'd be a four so it's like uh the entirety of the United States so like this encompasses media so it's not just who you can

Brian Atlasvisually see in person but who you've been exposed to your entire life in the media in print in journalism you saw a beautiful woman on the front of a magazine cover you saw her on a TV show

Brian Atlasyou got a celebrity crush uh an athlete whatever it is it's encompassing media but I'm primarily just looking at the United States because there's people always oh so includ like plastic surgery and girls who have like pinched and Photoshop I me the thing is with plastic

Brian Atlassurgery if you ask men if their assessment of women with plastic surgery I think it actually lowers their ranking so this idea that oh okay she has giant fake titties I think she's worse looking I would agree with you so yeah uh I I

Brian Atlasthink it's just uh I guess your own assessment and then what you you think men would rate you on average okay no how about just your own assessment let's just do that an eight okay what about

Kelly/Otheryou seven into the mic you can't s I like a number seven seven the guys can't pick seven I you can't uh so I can't pick seven okay eight okay IP I think if

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you're putting that standard I will say six sorry if what was the if you're using that standard I would say I'll write myself like a six what what other standard do you no you said the standard where you're comparing yourself to other

Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)people in the media like if you look at like Jenny Ros like what the heck I can't like sure what about you still six okay yeah eight

Brian Atlassix 6.9 6.9 6.9 it's good I give myself a five Andrew what about

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