HEATED Debate With Woke Feminist?! Boss Babe Picks Career Over PERFECT Man?! | Dating Talk #229

Date: 2025-02-19
Duration: 8h 15m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Alina(guest)
SPEAKER_02Kelly/Other(guest)
SPEAKER_03Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Brenda(guest)
SPEAKER_06TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_13Mary Grace(guest)
SPEAKER_14Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

00:03:41
IntroGuest introductions — all 8 women introduce themselves

Brian: 'without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. Please tell us your name, age, location, occupation and education.'

00:47:07
QuoteBrenda says she'd pick her business over a husband and kids if forced to choose

Brian: 'husband children or Rave podcast and your business... which do you pick if you have to pick one?' / Brenda: 'it would [keep what I'm doing]' / Brian: 'the entailment of that is that you die single and alone' / Brenda: 'I love myself so I will be okay with that.'

01:17:20
TopicMary Grace reveals she found her current boyfriend through the Whatever podcast

Mary Grace: 'I am in a relationship thanks to you [Brian]' — she's dating a CFO (35) who watched her previous appearance, slid into her DMs, and they've been together 2 months. Brian: 'I'm invited to the wedding?'

01:36:20
ControversyBrenda reveals she was 5150'd after domestic fight with ex on her birthday

Brenda describes a domestic physical altercation with her ex on her birthday that led to her being handcuffed by police, taken to jail, then 5150'd at a hospital. She bit chunks of his arm while being choked. No charges filed. Ex had called 911. Story includes an OnlyFans subscription to her best friend.

02:02:08
IntroAndrew Wilson joins remotely — just back from Debate Con

Brian: 'oh look who it is hey Andrew good to see you man' / Andrew: 'oh do we have sorry I'm late... I was on a trip all weekend'

02:04:53
QuoteBrenda reveals she had an OnlyFans that she paused when in relationship

Andrew: 'if you're doing OnlyFans then you can't really have any moral problems with him if he's watching other OF girls' / Brenda admits ex subscribed to her best friend's OF page during arguments.

02:44:41
Key MomentSelf-ratings round — guests rate their own looks 1-10

Brenda: 8, Patrice: 8 (originally tried 7), Kelly: 6.9, Ivy: 6, Brian: 5. Andrew: 'I'm probably 4.' Discussion of whether anyone on the panel can be a 10. Debate over Megan Fox comparisons with Brenda.

03:13:20
ControversyViral breakup TikTok reaction — woman mourning ex who dumped her after she moved

Panel watches viral video of woman set to sad music detailing how she gave up career/improv troop/savings to move for boyfriend who then dumped her. Patrice most resonant — just lived something similar in Australia. Andrew makes sardonic comments about 'finding himself.' Brian: 'men are not relationship vending machines.'

03:39:00
ControversyAndrew's argument: women's primary conflict tool is emotional manipulation/slander because they lack access to force

Andrew: 'men always have an option women don't which is force... what they do instead is their kind of ways of fighting back are either through emotional manipulations or through the idea of slander.' Extended philosophical debate with panel. Brenda concedes women plot and scheme more.

05:34:00
ControversyWoke feminist debate — Ivy argues women cannot be sexist toward men (requires power)

Ivy presents academic 'prejudice + power = ism' framework. Andrew and Brian systematically challenge with examples (nurse killing men, woman serial killer, reverse Harvard quota). Ivy eventually concedes on racism against Asian people. Chat: 'the whole idea that sexism is Prejudice plus power is only held by people with room temperature IQ.'

06:14:44
ControversyWould you send 100 innocent men to prison to prevent 1 rapist from walking free? — Brenda says yes

Brenda says she would send 100 innocent men to prison for 3 years. Bailey says no. Brian invokes Blackstone's ratio. Andrew calls Brenda a fascist (via chat read by Alina).

07:53:13
ControversyPatrice reveals her ex forced himself on her on 3 separate occasions

Brian asks about Patrice's previous disclosure. She reveals her first boyfriend forced himself on her multiple times. She stayed because it was her first relationship and she grew up adopted in rural Pennsylvania, never feeling wanted. Says she eventually understood when she returned from Australia. Emotional moment — panel offers support.

08:04:56
QuoteAlina: 'I do anything he says, he would never hear the word no' — train accident Patrice bit

Brian plays Patrice O'Neal comedy clip about keeping your man after losing vagina in train accident. Alina: 'I do anything he says, he would never hear the word no come out of my mouth.' Brian has her repeat it for the audience.

Topics Discussed

00:03:41
Introductions & Relationship Statuses

Brian introduces all guests. Each introduces themselves with name, age, location, occupation, education. Then each shares relationship status, single duration, longest relationship, and who broke up with whom.

00:24:34
Types & Dating Preferences

Brian goes around the table asking everyone's type in a partner. Kelly describes wanting a 6'0-6'2" half-Black half-white athletic man. Brenda discusses her preference for light-skinned Latino men. Discussion of Rave culture and whether Brenda would quit raving for a relationship. Career vs. relationship trade-offs. Boss Babe mentality — Brenda admits she'd pick her business over a husband/kids right now.

00:51:02
Ivy's Late Introduction & Single Life

Ivy joins late and introduces herself. Discussion of her 2-year travels, breaking celibacy in October, her current crush (Korean-American, 37). NYC vs. LA dating comparisons. Rosters and situationships. Brenda explains her dating approach — roster of 4 potential lovers, sleeping with only 1.

01:36:20
Brenda's 5150 & Domestic Incident Story

Brian reads Brenda's pre-show notes about a past relationship involving a domestic physical altercation on her birthday. She was arrested, taken to jail, then 5150'd at hospital. Ex called 911, she bit chunks of his arm in self-defense while blacking out from alcohol. She made public statements about it online. They briefly reconciled after she demanded $3k rent from him.

02:02:08
Andrew Wilson Joins — Dating & Relationship Discussion

Andrew Wilson joins remotely. Discussion of red flags in women. Brenda's OnlyFans history and ex subscribing to her best friend's page. Ivy's story of Korean ex buying a dog together and stealing it + $3,000. Discussion of Color Guard and red flags.

02:44:41
Self-Ratings Round (Looks 1-10)

Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Brenda: 8. Patrice: 8 (tried 7). Kelly: 6.9. Ivy: 6. Brian: 5. Mary Grace declined. Alina passed. Andrew debated whether to push back. Discussion of aging, plastic surgery, Megan Fox comparisons, and whether anyone on the panel could ever be a 10.

03:13:20
Viral Breakup TikTok Reaction

Brian plays a viral video of a woman mourning her ex who broke up with her after she moved for him. Panel reacts — Patrice most resonant (just went through something similar in Australia). Andrew makes jokes. Discussion of whether he owes her money legally, common law marriage, women's tears on social media, and Socrates/Aristotle quotes on female nature.

03:39:00
Women's Manipulation vs. Men's Force — Andrew's Philosophical Debate

Andrew makes argument that women's primary conflict tools are slander/emotional manipulation because they lack access to physical force. Debate about whether men should open up emotionally to women (gives them ammunition). Discussion of women narrating their own behavior, men cataloging vulnerabilities. Ivy and Patrice push back from lived experience.

04:38:00
Traditional vs. Modern Relationship Values

Should women take husband's last name? Show of hands on various traditional/modern preferences: men paying for dates, leading, taking initiative. Brian argues men's romantic leadership practice translates to corporate success, explaining the 'gender pay gap.' Discussion of women wanting traditional relationship benefits while also wanting career independence.

04:51:00
Transgender Disclosure & Identity Debate

Do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose? Kelly says no. Ivy says it's straight to date a trans woman if she's had surgery. Andrew debates what constitutes sex vs. gender. Discussion of brain scan studies on gender dysphoria, vampire identity analogy. Andrew leaves the show at ~6:29.

05:34:00
Woke Feminist Debate — Sexism, Racism, Power Dynamics

Ivy's position: women can't be sexist toward men because sexism requires power. Andrew and Brian systematically challenge this with examples. Discussion of whether Asian people can be racist, the Latasha Harlins shooting, property rights and self-defense. Ivy concedes on several points. Brian argues men are primary war victims. Ivy fired from teaching job — disputes whether it was racism.

06:14:44
Would You Send 100 Innocent Men to Prison?

Brian poses hypothetical: would you send 100 innocent men to prison for 3 years to prevent 1 rapist from walking free? Brenda says she would (for 100, hesitates at 1000). Bailey says no. Discussion of Blackstone's ratio foundation of Western justice.

06:33:00
Gender Pay Gap & Women's Oppression Discussion

Are women oppressed in the US? Ivy says yes (de facto). Can people be racist against white people? Discussion of Harvard's Asian quota case. Brian connects women's romantic preferences (wanting men who lead, provide, pay) to why men occupy executive positions — men practice leadership traits in dating.

07:53:13
Patrice's Assault Disclosure

Brian attempts to get clarity on Patrice's previous disclosure about her ex-boyfriend. She reveals he forced himself on her on 3 separate occasions. She stayed because it was her first relationship and she grew up adopted in rural central Pennsylvania without feeling wanted. Emotional and sensitive moment. Panel offers support.

08:03:40
Patrice Honest Comedy Clip & End of Show

Brian plays a classic Patrice O'Neal comedy bit about what women would do to keep a man if they lost their vagina in a train accident. Panel reacts and answers. Makeup removal segment. Show ends with raid on Twitch streamer Grayson.

Transcript

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00:55:39
TTS Readershow also the Asian chick from Sunday about the Serbian guy was totally lying and crying fake tears these chicks
00:55:48
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)crazy any responses from any of the panelists on this one Ginger hair that's I don't do
00:55:56
Brendago with J she has reddish hair I don't know who CU that makes sense I'm so very confused I think you need to donate
00:56:05
Brian Atlasagain and spe specify food yeah huh okay well uh 777 I do appreciate it man and then we have here him why not uh meet the Kaiser thank you
00:56:16
Brian Atlasman Brian how are you man very happy to hear C6 chair 6 Found Love here as much fun as it is to watch Andrew square up with feminist people sometimes forget this is first and foremost a dating
00:56:27
Brian Atlaspodcast congratulations to uh you you want to say anything where's the champagne pop your boyfriend you know what I don't know if he [ __ ] call him call him right now me phone I will yeah uh well we can't have it we can't have
00:56:39
Brian Atlasit on you got to call him behind the scenes we can't it's technically a felony to record somebody's uh conversation but oh text text y give her get her phone do
00:56:51
Brian Atlasyou have her phone what's your phone look like it's it's pink all right yeah no the other that one all right here just pass it to me over here all right we're going we're going to peer pressure him we're going to bully so what are we
00:57:03
Mary Gracewhat should I text him yeah text him be like Brian is demanding okay Brian is demanding a champagne oh no I don't I don't like him spending money on me to be quite
00:57:13
Brian Atlashonest he's not spending money on you Bri on a cause okay yeah he owes me he owes me a favor you know he owes me a song oh my God I got you guys linked up I'm a Matchmaker over here that's
00:57:25
Brian Atlasactually my fee I forgot to tell him my fee uh it's one one ethereum here's the story though any men watching who want to date any of these women it's one ethereum we makes me technically but
00:57:37
Mary Gracewhat wouldn't you rather have flowers huh flowers not roses that are orange what's his favorite flower dandelion dandelion yeah good times good times she brought me flowers as a gift I was
00:57:50
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)watching the podcast a couple weeks ago and he he seemed so upset that nobody ever brought him flowers I was very upset yeah so mhm as a thank you for having me on the show I brought Brian Flowers she look at that she actually brought
00:58:02
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)me a but you are you going to give are you going to take are you going to give them to another girl tomorrow you said that on the podcast a couple weeks ago giving them to to Damen my producer that's so sweet and then he's going to
00:58:14
Brian Atlasgive them to hit to whatever his girlfri okay cool yeah oh uh just put it back there thank you D you appreciate it that's very nice very nice uh thank you
00:58:25
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)thank you thank you very much okay uh where were we uh we were talking about stuff relationship dating podcast something you're asking what we started going around like with our types and we
00:58:37
Brian Atlasalso started going around with what a single mean oh yes are you actually thank you thank you uh so you're currently involved how long have you been seeing this guy I've known him for about a year but
00:58:49
Brendaum it's been on two dates three dates three dates three dates do you have a roster so my version of a roster is I don't sleep with all of them but there are well I only I only ever sleep with
00:59:01
Brendaone person at the same time I would never do more than that but doesn't mean that I'm not open to talking to new people so my roster has maybe like four guys that I could just say hi to like
00:59:11
Brendatext hey you want to go work out yeah and you've dated you're dating them all though well I wouldn't say a workout
00:59:21
Brendais a date uh hanging out but the prent they're so that's the thing they they're potential lovers potential lovers
00:59:31
Brian Atlaspotential lovers yeah huh okay and uh so you have a roster four and then one and then there's like the main ho you have a main hoe I don't have a it's not a main
00:59:42
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)hoe it's a main piece a main piece this sounds so bad it's just just the one person that I'm that I'm in actually investing more time um and opening myself up more to being more vulnerable
00:59:55
Brian Atlaswith got it and have you guys had caral knowledge I asked him out and I yeah you
01:00:08
Brendaasked him out yes wait what do you mean you asked him like you like like like yes what that question is sorry that question is too much on the internet wait when you say you like you guys are
01:00:21
Brendaexclusive no no no no no sorry that was just my brain whenever sorry that okay wait so you you asked him like you want are you boyfriend girlfriend no no no no like I asked him on a
01:00:31
Brendadate oh when I'm talking caral knowledge no I know what you mean and again that was just my brain I don't want to put that on I don't know it's
01:00:41
Brian Atlasjust weird to say I'm sorry okay that's fine um do the other three or four guys that you're seeing know that that you're [ __ ] another dude I
01:00:54
BrendaI don't know how else to say it yeah well um it's it's it's not really like their place to to judge like we're not is but do they know regardless of judgment do they know was just not their need to
01:01:08
Brendaknow so it's not their place to know it's not their place to know I would want to know but if I'm not [ __ ] you then why why do you care well I don't I don't date women who are [ __ ] other men what then well then there you go and
01:01:21
Brian Atlasthat's yeah but that's why I want to know so I don't take a girl out on a date who [ __ ] a guy the night before well okay but I would I would never let a guy take me out so these guys but you said you'd go on gym dates or whatever
01:01:33
Brian Atlaswith cuz I just text hey you want to go work out or they text hey you want to go work out and it's just hanging out with a guy who um that could be a potential lover like potential lover so but then in addition to the guys who you're going
01:01:46
Brian Atlason these like dates with but you're not hooking up with them what about the guy who you are hooking up with and he's like oh what the [ __ ] she's going on dates with other dudes but I'm not [ __ ] them no you said you were [ __ ] no I'm not [ __ ] them I'm not
01:01:58
Brian Atlas[ __ ] no you're [ __ ] a singular man one guy sure but he might feel a type of way like oh she's dating other dudes and I was inside of her yesterday I don't
01:02:10
Brendaknow how I feel about this then bye really damn Co heartless well yeah like we're not exclusive because once I'm exclusive like we're exclusive so if we're not then it's
01:02:22
Alinalike do you think most guys would not care about that I know if you were sleeping with somebody else and also going out with them do you think most of them would not care or most of them would
01:02:32
Brendacare I'm not sure keep it Dam yeah I've honestly haven't really um like I guess quote unquote dated to like really know that I've always just been in relationships so this is like my
01:02:43
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)first time ever single and on my own do you think that a guy would want to take you seriously if you're not taking him seriously because if you're not like even if you guys aren't exclusive if you're dating other guys like how serious could you be about him well yeah
01:02:56
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)so like the energy that I put out is the energy that I receive so if I'm putting out the energy and intention that I don't want anything serious then I of course expect the same energy back I'm not looking for a boyfriend so you're
01:03:07
Brendajust having fun you're just I'm just enjoying life like I yeah okay so this energy that you give out don't you think it should be like vice versa yeah so I'm not saying it's wrong what you're doing
01:03:18
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)but don't you think don't you think it's like I know it's not their need to know but let's say one of those four guys wants to take you serious I know you don't want anything with them but don't
01:03:29
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you think they should know as a form of like respect as just a person cuz if I was in your situation and I was a girl and a guy that I was [ __ ] but I wanted to be serious with I found out that he's talking to four other the
01:03:42
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)girls I would be hurt and I would want to know cuz I wouldn't want to waste my time um especially if it's just like even if it's just going to the gym I wouldn't want to waste my time when I could be getting to know someone that I
01:03:53
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)could actually have a future with yeah 100% that's a beautiful question because um I I totally hear that and that's that's the beauty of communication you know like when Once someone actually communicates that okay we're starting to
01:04:06
Brendalike see each other more and I'm having a more a bigger interest in you or whatever um and then we would talk and we would communicate and that's between us and then yeah but of course I would never lie if someone like I'm an open
01:04:18
Brendabook if you want to ask me a question ask me a question I'll answer and then yeah oh so they don't know until they ask you yeah and that's like five vice versa like I'm not going to if I don't want to know something or I don't feel the need to no I'm not going to ask and
01:04:31
Mary Graceif I want to know then I'm going to ask and that's the beauty of communication what is the threshold where you view a situation reaching something serious
01:04:41
Mary Gracewhere you do need to have that discussion of what's the expectation between your Dynamic I honestly don't know because
01:04:53
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)I've um this is again like dating is like new for me or like this the way that I'm dating is like is the way that dating was able to like make sense with my lifestyle and it's new for me so I I
01:05:04
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)don't know okay I guess moving on uh you've been single for two weeks do you have have you had a rebound yet no I I'm a Serial like long-term relationship type person I have options but I'm not I
01:05:17
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)think I always believe in taking time to heal yourself and figure your I don't I don't think that it's I don't think it ever turns out well when you immediately jump into another relationship without
01:05:27
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)working on yourself and healing yourself first I think that you just take listen am like am I sad on some level of course I am am I on some level also relieved
01:05:37
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)yes I am but that being said I don't anybody that gets into a relationship right after they've left somebody else I don't care what they say they're still like a week after that person you're still thinking about that person two weeks after that person you're still thinking about that person
01:05:51
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)and a month after that person you're still thinking about that person so I don't think it's right to enter into another relationship and start trying to learn somebody else when you're still
01:05:58
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)thinking about ex whoever so options yes rebounds no boyfriends no I usually try to give it like at least 3 to six months and I don't I don't enter a sexual
01:06:10
Brian Atlasrelationship until like it's exclusive if there's no exclusivity it's not it's not happening so so you how long do you typically wait like what if the guy like I'm not dating anybody anybody else this
01:06:23
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)is the first date let's be exclusive like will you smash right away no second date maybe I mean maybe I was with my I was with the X fiance on the like night one and it was like but he was just oh
01:06:34
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)wait hold on wait wait wait hold on the first night I thought you need exclusivity so I had seen his content and he was basically like if if you want a girl to take you seriously like she
01:06:46
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)has to be just my in after the first date my Instagram was down and he this was just like fun and Giggles to him but after date one my Instagram was down like I was borderline getting ready to
01:06:57
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)quit my job I was like anything he wanted I would have given him so I mean he was just like a an extraordinary circumstance but I wanted him to take me seriously and I knew that like my time with him in the United States before he
01:07:10
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)bounced to wherever he was going next was like this so we spent a whole week together after like it was night one and then we spent like 5 days together it was our first encounter but I wouldn't
01:07:19
Brian Atlasthat's not like my Norm got it okay and um wait so how about before that though so before that the first boyfriend I ever had in
01:07:31
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)my life going back to types like my friends have this joke that I strictly only date balding men in their mid-30s um they all look pretty yes that's
01:07:43
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)awesome so the first boyfriend that I ever had we were together like the first person i' had ever been with we were together probably like 3 months before we before there was any type of like sex and then the next booyfriend the
01:07:56
Brian Atlaslongterm the four and a half year one we were together it must have been two three dates was your uh fiance was he loyal to you like did he tell me he was loyal or what do I
01:08:08
Brian Atlasthink you said it was like a red pill guy I don't know who but like isn't it uh the case like closed on the woman's end open on the guy's end I think so
01:08:19
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)like you can't [ __ ] other dudes he can [ __ ] other D no other chicks yeah got that I think that I chose to be proactively oblivious in the relationship a lot of the time so he could I think he was just telling me what I wanted to hear do I think that he was sleeping around absolutely like
01:08:31
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)especially just knowing his completely completely but there is something it's like if I'm not going to leave the relationship so I can have these insecurities but if I'm going to sit there and harp on it over and over and over again he's just going to lie anyway
01:08:44
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)so I'd either Exit the relationship like if you're still following girls on Instagram every day and I see like these insta hos that you're following I assume like there's you're not following them because you want to see what they're up
01:08:55
Brian Atlasto this weekend there's intent so okay uh what about you do you uh you got is there a guy in the picture a half
01:09:05
Brian Atlaswhite half black tall sexy African man who's tall oh actually he's in my
01:09:17
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)crush you have a crush yeah I have a crush have you guys met in person yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so
01:09:26
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)after so after my ex about 3 years ago I
01:09:31
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)made him throw the Hing the dating yet so cute so cute yeah so um so he's four
01:09:42
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)years older than me and in Korea we have the culture who do you bow H do you bow to him cuz he's older he's your Elder
01:09:51
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)what was she bow she's he's bow bow you bow down bow oh Bow oh yes yeah why not yeah
01:10:01
Brian Atlasyeah yes I I'm sorry I was a little nervous to talk about this little that's okay so he's he's is he a half white half black
01:10:12
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)eyy right so he's actually yes yes no more information so any so you're dating him
01:10:20
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)uh kind of I would say the situation ship in positive way with him what say
01:10:28
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)that again so actually situationship is negative word kind of like like people don't want to say I'm in situationship you know like so you're in a
01:10:39
Brian Atlassituationship in positive way with him yes so how long have you been seeing him oh 3 years what wait hold on you said you've been you said you've been single
01:10:50
Brian Atlasfor what did you say three years but you've been you've been when's hold on situation hold on when when is the last time you
01:10:58
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)saw him oh it's about one week ago a ago you guys have sex oh yeah of course and you've been seeing him for 3 years but you've been single for 3 years Yes
01:11:09
Brian Atlassounds like you're dating the guy yeah no kind of like so he's sexually not American he's sexually not American he
01:11:18
Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)not American oh not American yeah actually am American where's he from so
01:11:26
Kelly/Othertoo much information yeah yeah too much to yeah okay UK Jamaican UK jamaic mix it UK jamaic say one more time one more time
01:11:39
Brian Atlasin I think everybody missed it UK Jamaican yes J UK J J UK I like that okay so he's Jamaican all right that's
01:11:48
Brian Atlascool and so you've been in a situ a three-year situationship with a J yen years I love that and so during that
01:11:59
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)threeyear period were you dating other guys the past 3 years oh I mean so it's a situation like do you want a relationship with
01:12:07
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)him I would but not ready for you're not ready or he's not ready we both both why aren't you ready oh we were talking a
01:12:17
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)lot so we so when I started some relationship with him
01:12:29
Brian Atlasactually ah it was Mr timing oh wait sorry sorry I meant the girl in chair number one is a unicorn and is the delusional one not gingerly
01:12:39
Brian Atlasauto correct oh that autoc corrected a word unicorn it was not unicorn uh 777 he dropped the
01:12:50
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)um redacted word um okay go ahead sorry keep going keep going go ahead so what is say so after I broke up with my ex I
01:13:01
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)tried to started another serious relationship but kind of also I tried to look it up
01:13:09
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)on other men's also not only him so I missed to focus on him and I tried to
01:13:17
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)date with the multiple gu so to be honest and but after doing this for after the year we were talking more like
01:13:29
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)how we are serious but we cannot make we cannot build up for now that serious relationship so we've been
01:13:38
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)just like a try to make some happen like to see more share some moment but
01:13:47
Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)not yeah not like seriously so far but who knows for the future do you want kids of course two or three two or three do you want it with
01:13:59
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)him I'm I'm I'm really interested to know right like why is it that people think that they can't have a relationship if you I feel like if you
01:14:08
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)guys love each other then like what's the problem uh I think I'm I'm a Korean I still figuring out
01:14:18
Steph/Kelly/Bailey (mixed)my accent yeah something like you know still learning still need I don't know something like so kind of like he or figuring out his
01:14:29
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)status like I don't want to say immigration stat something like a more yes more serious something paperwork thing first should do it as a
01:14:39
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)non-american so we are we both are doing it and so that's why like yes so many reason is complicated but yeah anyway but you guys can just do those problems
01:14:52
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)together like you can just like do life together like three years quite a while like actually I was also not good woman for him I like to party with the girls I
01:15:02
Brian Atlaslike to go out and then yes you're not you're not a good woman for him so did you really like him wait but hold on when you say you're not a good woman for
01:15:12
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)him in what ways were you not a good woman um like the part okay so partying what else I think he's UK guys so I
01:15:22
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)heard the UK he's is don't want to say don't do it don't do it just so he want to see it how I'm
01:15:31
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)moving I yeah how I'm acting yeah so he doesn't want to have to tell you what you should do you should just do it but like you can have fun I don't get it
01:15:42
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)like did you want him to tell you like you can't do this like did you want that that don't do this don't go here like did you want to be told what to do or oh I cuz it seems like you knew what you were doing like was not good for the
01:15:53
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)relationship I think I used to do dated with who is insecure who is try to L on me L on me but this
01:16:03
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)guy is olded enough I think 38 this year going to be 38 and I'm 33 37 you look young thank you baby anyway
01:16:13
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)33 37 so that's why like um we try to like also I don't like also like I don't want to talk about what I don't like
01:16:22
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)about his some point of his life but I cannot say also like don't do it you know what I'm
01:16:31
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01:17:44
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)I got it uh so going to you uh Ivy oh wait can I ask one more question I'm curious like your dating history sounds
01:17:53
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)really cool um have you ever tried dating a Korean guy oh I tried it but
01:18:01
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)kind of attractive with more sexist one sexist I don't SE I don't know Korean guys I love it not sexy but kind of look
01:18:11
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)too pretty for me pretty boys look too Korean or too femin yeah too pretty for me I like like why service VI service
01:18:23
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)so just a look thing how about personality and like mannerisms oh first thing is a visual and second thing mind but yeah and attractive any Vision thing
01:18:36
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)yeah visually yeah so how how is it different like dating like a a Korean Guy versus like the guys that you date now like mentally like mindset wise for
01:18:45
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the guys course I wish I have the Korean guy who is like my crush you know then I
01:18:55
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)cuz Kurt when we have a conversation of Kurt I have a language barrier he needed more patient to with me I should uh sometime he using something word word
01:19:07
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)then I don't understand I should look it up so kind of miss the conversation sometimes so um I wish but culture isn't doesn't matter yes I want to say like going off of that
01:19:20
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)like the language barrier part like there was one point in my life when I was was like a college student and I was working full-time at a Korean restaurant and I started dating the chef there and it's funny yesterday he just posted that he's getting married and so but but but
01:19:34
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)that Chef the reason why I mentioned him is because he actually did not speak any English and I didn't speak any Korean and so there was like a language barrier but we dated for like more than a year
01:19:44
Brian Atlasright language barrier is doesn't matter it's okay anyways um so you've been single for how long Ivy oh I've been single for like two years now two years okay yeah uh have you been
01:19:56
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)but in that 2-year period have you dated any guys um in that 2E oh like going on dates yes like about situationships have sneaky link anything like that actually no no no situationships or anything I've
01:20:07
Brian Atlasbeen traveling the past two years so I've been like traveling around bouncing around different countries 100% like single no dudes two years um like it's
01:20:19
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)like sometimes if I meet some guy it's then you know we like each other then yeah we'll go on a date but um it never really goes beyond like two dates yeah wait so have you been celibate for 2
01:20:30
Brian Atlasyears um I was celibate for 1 year and I just broke it last October yeah and it's so funny it was oh can I say this oh God yeah you can say it no you're good no hey it's the
01:20:42
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)whatever podcast you can say you can say whatever oh shoot oh shoot but I like broke my celibacy with this like guy that I met through my ex and so it was
01:20:53
Brian Atlaspretty bad yeah yeah yeah it was like and that was October but you been Have You Been Cate since then um I mean or are you still seeing that guy I mean I wasn't seeing him uh like yeah spending
01:21:05
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)time with him no no cuz he lives in um New York and I live in LA and then I've been traveling around but we actually ended up in Korea together like he was there at the same time as me and so we hung out one more time and then that was
01:21:17
Brian Atlasthe last time I saw him when was that that was in December December so you've been celibate since December yes okay got it sad oh it's not that long actually okay okay uh Bailey what about you you've been single for a year and a
01:21:30
Brian Atlashalf but no there's been no no guys in the picture tilt your mic down please situation ship sort of uhhuh for just a
01:21:43
Brian Atlaslittle but celibate since September okay celibate since September yes September okay all right what about you you're well you're dating a guy mhm
01:21:54
Brian Atlasall well you three are dating guys so there you go uh I did want to who here lives in La well this is an LA you mean like just sorry you said here in question sorry
01:22:06
Kelly/Otherwait did I say here in La yes yeah did I say here I you said who lives in La I said who lives in La sorry it's it's all right um who so who lives in
01:22:17
Brian AtlasLa okay you live in LA you live in LA anybody else oh wow girlfriend they're going to be girlfriends hey watch out though she's going to B your
01:22:28
Brian Atlasteeth she's gonna get them she's gonna give you a grill that's going to be crazy yeah your hair's going to be all
01:22:38
Brian Atlas[ __ ] too actually have like a burn too my hair used to look like that uh so okay so uh and I mean I guess who's from
01:22:48
Brian AtlasSouthern California are you in yeah so like a lot of people I guess when it comes to like La dating we got three people who live in uh La here a lot of
01:22:59
Brian Atlaspeople seem to have a lot of complaints when it comes to dating in La it's very superficial there's so many people distances can sometimes be a problem
01:23:09
Brian Atlasjust because La is so [ __ ] big oh I live in LA oh but you're an hour away you know whatever so
01:23:18
Brian Atlasum do you guys think that La at least in the United States is the worst city like big city cuz I I mean maybe you could say like oh some town with like 20
01:23:30
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)people that probably sucks to date in that town maybe I live in a town like that but I'm curious like is it the worst like larger City to dat I think New York is the worst why why worst
01:23:42
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)because I think for my friends that live there it's like everyone think that they can do so much better and even though they meet someone that would match them like 100% they just keep like swiping on the ABS and like oh we'll see like what I can get and it's just like like so sad
01:23:55
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)so I have like really smart beautiful friends in LA and I'm I mean sorry in New York and I'm just like they're like almost going to be doctors and like they're really successful and um they have really good morals and still they have trouble dating and so like they're
01:24:07
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)literally a catching like a dozen like I don't know how they have a hard time and then I just look at the guys there and then they're just like they'll say they'll love bomb like I was only there for like what I was there for 3 days and
01:24:18
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)I did meet a guy there um oh yeah I did meet someone there and so yeah I forgot about that guy but anyways he was saying the most to me doing the most and then once I left New York then by and then I see him like you know taking some other
01:24:31
Brian Atlasgirl out to courtside seats to watch like the NBA game and I'm like okay and so you're you're telling me that like you have a couple female friends who live in LA no no New York or sorry sorry yeah I mixed up my words that live in
01:24:42
Brian AtlasNew York and they're catches as you would say they're successful whatever but they are struggling to find men I'm going to uh I want to come back to that later but I'm going to just keep it
01:24:53
Brian Atlasright now on like where City to date by the way chat what do you think is the worst city to date um you're in La do you think La is
01:25:04
Brendapretty bad when it comes to dating I know club culture is pretty bad like dating in like club culture um cuz it's just like when night stands so I would say that part's bad yeah okay and
01:25:15
Brian Atlasyou're in La pretty rough hot rough rough rough rough rough it's it's hard out there yeah it's hard out there
01:25:24
Brian Atlaspretty rough yeah okay you know I I want to do a segment called worst cities to daten and uh so Damian I need you to
01:25:36
Brian AtlasWikipedia Wikipedia you know what we have a we have a Korean here so uh we're going to do pull up pyong yangang oh my god let's let's look up pyong yangang uh find the Wikipedia article I I think
01:25:49
Brian Atlaspyongyang's pretty bad probably for dating oh hair um I'm trying to think where else is a bad chat what is the worst city and you can't like be at least be a bit trollish
01:26:01
Brian Atlasbut not like somewhat realistic like don't say Antarctica because that's not fair all right um chat what what's the somebody said in the chat somebody saying Phoenix St Louis North Korea is
01:26:13
Brian Atlaspretty bad mo mo somebody saying Mobile Alabama did I say mobile I don't know how to say it Cleveland is bad they're saying uh
01:26:24
Brian AtlasBelleview that's pretty but Phoenix I get another Phoenix Miami oh Miami is bad Miami is probably I my that could be the worst Atlanta o Fresno y yep Vegas
01:26:36
Brian Atlasis yeah Vegas is probably pretty bad I'm wondering what about uh Wuhan that could be a pretty bad why would it be
01:26:44
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)bad cuz viruses hey what the heck that's where it started it's okay now I would imag like India would be tough like
01:26:54
Brian Atlasanywhere in India I people be a little rough many people Africa what about uh mares where's like a bad place to date
01:27:05
Brian Atlaschat they don't need to date d right where where's oh um can you also Wikipedia The I think it's the North sentinelles Island look that up uh so
01:27:18
Brian Atlaswe're we're going to look that up that's probably a pretty bad place to date uh Bakersfield Dallas they're saying Alice is bad uh Bangladesh sh oh Iraq you know
01:27:29
Brian Atlaswhat let's do uh also Baghdad I want to I want you to pull up Baghdad and what's the capital of Afghanistan is it Kabul wait cab kab Kabul yeah let's just pull
01:27:41
Brian Atlasup the wikipedias so these are the top five worst places to date um where's also CH Chernobyl let's get Chernobyl too that's a that's a bad place also
01:27:54
Brian Atlaspeople are saying Kev Russia Detroit Missouri Chernobyl couple the Congo Congo not so great yo did anybody see that video it was a guy I don't know which African country and he's it's the
01:28:04
Brian Atlascreepiest video I saw I saw it a couple days ago it's a guy who's a black guy with like blonde hair who's leaning out the back of like a Jeep and he's like
01:28:14
Brian Atlasdriving down a path and then there's this like African tribesman with like white body paint like chasing him down do you guys know what I'm talking about
01:28:25
Brian Atlasdid you guys see that it was very it's the scariest video I'm going to try to find it hold on maybe Daman can find it wait it's
01:28:34
Brian Atlascalled uh wait maybe I saw reddit reddit uh guy getting chased in [ __ ] what is
01:28:45
Brian Atlasit maybe it was an AI video and I got Bamboozled got him can somebody find that video for me please poor F oh Houdini thank you for
01:28:57
Brian Atlasthe gifted 20 Subs dude you're a [ __ ] Legend thank you man uh here let's let's start pulling up the wikies hey ex out of that ad though that's on top thank you Houdini for the
01:29:08
Brian Atlasgift in yeah let's pull it up one by one yeah that's fine we'll look at it Pyongyang not a great place let's scroll down so I can see the photo you know hey
01:29:19
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)it kind of looks nice though that's C it looks nice it's it's literally a dict I would click the monument to party founding I would take a girl on a first date here oh my God this is would be so
01:29:31
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)romantic even you cannot land it like if I took you to to there that would be good we cannot land it we got to go some basement basement oh in the basement while you
01:29:42
Brian Atlashere you're going to all right next cannot sit down Miami well of course K next miam is terrible
01:29:51
Brian AtlasWuhan oh is Wuhan actually bad on actually kind of look doesn't look so bad you know next oh really I'm from Vietnam oh yeah this place hold on guys
01:30:03
Brian Atlasguys guys stop stop stop uh this place would be I will pay somebody $10,000 to go
01:30:12
Brian Atlashere I'll do it you'll you'll do it I will do it I will go no you you can't do any research on this place okay you can't do any research no hold on actually I'll pay you $100,000 how and
01:30:24
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)you have to go you have to go on a date here I'll do it you'll do it I'll still do it yeah would we even leave or like would we yeah scroll scroll down no you you just have to spend 24
01:30:35
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)hours on the island and a date with one of the Islanders scroll down well I actually wait I I'm taking my statement back it says that that guy was killed after making eye contact with somebody I
01:30:47
Brian Atlasthink I'm I'm gonna recap my stat wait hold on wait don't scroll down further because I'm pretty sure these guys have their [ __ ] out cuz they're like they don't wear clothes or some so I don't know if we can wait let's just do the next Wikipedia article
01:30:59
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)it's basic I don't know if they're cannibals but they're protected they're a protected tribe they'll like they'll kill Outsiders like they're they're totally isolated yeah I'm not I'm I'm going to change my mind get your money
01:31:12
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)then I just saw I just saw a patch of green grass and I was like I can go there for 24 hours sure kabo in Afghanistan scroll down hey thats kind of nice there I
01:31:22
Brian Atlasdon't know it looks nice oh the shrine all right next kab Afghanistan
01:31:30
Brian AtlasPrat ghost oh yeah yeah yeah uh scroll down uh the bottom right one that picture oh it's just okay it's like a
01:31:42
Brian Atlascom Montage or whatever okay yeah that looks romantic next can oh the scroll
01:31:51
Brian Atlasdown can somebody on my in stagram send me that video of the guy being the black man in the Jeep being chased by can somebody send that to me
01:32:03
Brian Atlasbecause I don't that has nothing to do with dating but whatever is that it Damian I think okay we have a message from Houdini also hey Brian love the show last week's episode with Mason was great loved hearing about him dating with intention for marriage it gives me
01:32:16
Brian Atlashope for Humanity that's dope thank you so much hini thank you for the 20 gifted Subs man uh really appreciate it and uh
01:32:23
Brian Atlasthere's some interesting uh feedback when it uh came to that but uh anyways uh we were going around the table s uh oh no we already finished
01:32:36
Brian Atlaswith everybody's like roster and situationships and whatnot did you are you actually single though yeah we already did it uh so I wanted to go back to something you were saying Ivy if you can like scoot into the table just scoot into the table you're too far back I
01:32:49
Brian Atlaslike just sit weird okay uh so you said that there's you have a bunch of girlfriends in New York who you said
01:33:00
Brian Atlasthey're a catch they're attractive they're you said successful yeah some of them are doctors or going to be doctors is that right and
01:33:09
Brian Atlasthey're Med medical school but they can't find a guy um but so are you saying what makes them a catch is that they're really successful and some of them are doctors no no no I'm saying
01:33:22
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)they're also like really pretty and I think that they have a like very high EQ and they're very caring but yeah I think that it's just like rough out there in the dating scene everyone guys and girls maybe some there are some problems with
01:33:35
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the girls right they also maybe think that they can do better sometimes I think it goes both ways cuz I hear guys and girls say the same thing like I was only in York for 3 days like why do I hear both of them complaining and they're just saying that like it's impossible to date in the city no one
01:33:47
Brian Atlaswants to commit and I hear guys and girls saying that so I'm like someone's messed up okay gotcha cuz the way it sounded earlier was you're saying like oh you know they're so successful they're
01:33:59
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)doctors no I I look at people's personalities and then people around me they just happen to be like working professionals I think I'm the only one that probably has like a more unconventional lifestyle what is that uh
01:34:10
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)like I just wasn't someone that like I well I was at one point where I was like a school teacher and then I decided like oh I did it for 2 years you know I did TFA for two years and so like it's time for me to like while I'm young and I can
01:34:23
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)still do this I just like go around and travel and explore and see what else is out there yeah so I like don't really stay in the states that often so I don't really have a lot of roots in the States but I do know people abroad a lot so
01:34:35
Brian Atlasthat's that's unconventional yes okay uh we have a chat here from Yarmouth One Last Thing Before I Go Gavin mckinness once said that New York was an elephant's graveyard for ovaries from yarma thank you for the
01:34:47
Brian AtlasSuper Chat does anybody want to respond he's saying it's a a graveyard what's the difference between a reg graveyard and an elephant
01:34:56
Brian Atlasgraveyard it's just a big it's a big graveyard uh so yeah it's hard for the women to date in New York yeah I hear about like girls asking guys out on
01:35:08
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)dates and that like shocked me I was like why are you asking them out and then yeah the guys are saying it's so fun good so guys definitely have a lot more fun in New York and I think in La it's like kind of equal so I think we
01:35:19
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)have it a lot more easier but nothing compares to Asia cuz I think that like definitely girls are chasing guys like in all over Asia there's like just more girls and guys I think in like southeast
01:35:30
Kelly/OtherAsia yeah oh let's do this also for can you guys grab one of the questionnaires and get a pen and we're going to have Ivy fill it out oh God why do I have extra work yeah you got you got a
01:35:42
Brian Atlashomework okay thank you you have a homework assignment it there should be some just at the table I think right maybe huh here yeah let's get a repent
01:35:53
Kelly/Othertoo uh no no no no just pass it pass it to her just no no no you you can literally pass it to her and then pass efficiency we love okay so I do this like yeah we'll
01:36:07
Brian Atlasjust have you fill it out while we're continuing on with the conversation so it's put your name at the top yes no for all these and then answer the questions at the bottom all right so here's what we're going to do uh I'm going to
01:36:19
Brian Atlascontinue on with the pre-show notes Let's do let's skip to to brinda brinda you said you dated someone with public allegations and it turned into a crazily online debacle
01:36:31
Brian Atlasbecause honestly you we were both just drama and Trauma it was messy and looking back you see how much of it was fueled by unresolved wounds rather than
01:36:41
Brian Atlasanything real yeah uh so when you say you were dating this guy was this one of your boyfriends or whatever mhm yeah my last relationship and what do you mean public allegations um well in the
01:36:53
Brendapre-show there was like certain things that I can't say so so just like alleg if you yeah allegations that were but you was it involving you or somebody else no no no other people like from his
01:37:03
Brendapast other people from his past um mhm he had wounds didn't never communicated and people just made allegations about him so um his reputation was um already
01:37:15
Brendalike dented I guess and then when I got into it um I obviously like was like [ __ ] [ __ ] the allegations you know um and then I just learned that they're
01:37:26
Brian Atlasjust based off of patterns okay you said also pertaining to this that the situation taught you firsthand how social media can be weaponized in relationships and he tried to exploit
01:37:38
Brendayou online after you guys broke up yeah but you did the same um yes to defend myself okay but he started it yes well or so actually I did um so but I had
01:37:51
Brendaquickly deleted it so what had happened is um he had falsely imprisoned me and um I had then posted something online about like what had actually like what what had happened and basically saying
01:38:03
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)all the allegations are I found out that to be true because something happened to me and then I quickly deleted it after 10 minutes but then by that time because um our circles are so close um he was
01:38:14
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)already getting calls and DMS and um then a couple hours later he makes a post um and uh falsely exploits me says
01:38:23
BrendaI did XYZ and immediately I um create a post and I have video and I posted the videos and like everything that stated basically what he was saying was false
01:38:36
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)and this is the real story because I have friends with me that day and their videos you said he did what he falsely imprisoned you or what what what was it that you said so I don't want I don't want to get you because there's a lot of
01:38:49
Brian AtlasI I would have to say every single thing in order for it to make sense because there's a lot of layers for the Contex sex okay yeah so he he what was the word that you used I'm just trying to recall it was imprisoned or what falsely
01:39:01
Brendaimprisoned falsely okay what is that I so not sure what that is he he called um 911 and
01:39:14
Brendastated that I was doing something that I wasn't doing and both of us were non-coherent so um and I
01:39:24
BrendaI was less in I was more in and out of it than he was but still because um I was so in in in and out of it when I had like woke up from a blackout I was like
01:39:34
Brian Atlastalking to the cops and then the process of imprisonment was he wait the the process of imprisonment started after the cops
01:39:44
Brendacame or well yeah because so we were in my apartment did the cops the cops detained you yes we're fighting ARR yes did well so and then they transferred me
01:39:55
Brian Atlasover uh to the hospital oh did you you got 5150 yes I see and then how long were you in like the what is it a cych hold or what's
01:40:08
Brendathat called yeah so it was like at 3:00 a.m. and um the moment that the psychiatrist came in um she did an evaluation and then deemed that I was fit to go and so just let you go yeah
01:40:19
Brian Atlasbecause or how how long were you held I'm sorry how long were you held uh just until the physician came in which was so a couple hours maybe couple hours yeah but it was rough okay uh and were were
01:40:30
Brendathere substances involved like well no so so it was my birthday and we had just went out to the club and um alcohol was involved okay so you had been drinking a
01:40:39
Brian Atlaslittle bit okay so wait I'm a little confused though so he are you saying that the police falsely imprisoned you yeah no so so basically um what had happened is we're in my apartment we're
01:40:52
Brendafighting and they got physical on both ends um and to who started who initiated um he did okay but I W I was the one who put my hands on him first but he was the
01:41:04
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)one who shoved me first so it was like you put your so so he shoved me okay so let me just say the story so okay so um we're in my apartment um we had just got into a
01:41:15
Brendafight because uh we were in a relationship and then he and then we were out of the relationship and then we started talking again and he didn't want to be exclusive so I um was already in
01:41:27
Brendathis mindset of all right on my birthday like cool we're gonna have fun and um I'm just going to live and um on my birthday I was trying to get um backstage faster so I was like trying to
01:41:37
Brendaflirt with the bouncer and this kind of very mad got angry um started to uh get aggressive with the bouncer um my friends were there so then we're driving home um he's drunk we're all drunk and
01:41:50
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)um this is when he starts yelling at me well we get to my apartment and um my friends uh leave because they see me go into my apartment but then because we are in an argument and um I wanted him I
01:42:01
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)wanted to talk about it uh I call him up and I was like I need help to get into my apartment um can you help me blah blah blah blah blah and then he helps me you get into my apartment and his laptop is in my apartment um and this laptop
01:42:14
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)was a gift but um he wanted to take the gift back and I was like no all my stuff is in here like you need to give me time and he was like no like I want my stuff now and I want to leave and I was like you could leave but I'm going to keep you keep your laptop we're fighting over
01:42:25
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the laptop I'm holding it I get shoved it's a gift or he was loaning you his laptop it was a gift he said this is your laptop you could have this laptop and was it brand new no so he gave you a
01:42:37
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)used laptop but he cleared it he cleared it out well yeah I needed one because um he well so he loaned are you sure it was a gift yeah no yeah he he literally said
01:42:46
Brian Atlaslike this is no for you as a loon laptop no he said like this is for you but he wanted it back he wanted it back and you wanted to keep it I wanted to keep okay so you guys started fighting okay and
01:42:58
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)I'm holding laptop so what I mean by I put my hands on in first is when he shoved me um I was holding laptop and I fell to the ground and um because I have like concrete floor or not concrete
01:43:08
Brendafloor like tile floor um I took it as if like oh like okay like we're we're going to go and um then I I just started going we started going and yeah yeah and then
01:43:20
Brian Atlasit got really bad um and so how long were you guys doing like MMA or whatever I wish I could tell you how long it wasle but so he called the then he called the cops okay so there's a so
01:43:33
BrendaI have an audio recording and it was 10 minutes long so for 10 minutes that's how long it took uh the cops to get here to get to my place and then was he arrested also no just me just you yeah
01:43:45
Brendacuz I was crazy girl that was the girl who um who was trying to hurt him when it was uh back and forth uh we were fighting over a he [ __ ] up
01:43:56
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)yeah no I mean like was his face like were you you guys were you guys throwing punches at each other so because he was like choking me I started to bite him like that's how I had nothing else to do
01:44:08
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)there there's an arm on my throat you know what do I do him so because there were because of was it like a Mike Tyson situation you took off his ear like you off there are pieces of his of his arm
01:44:21
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)like skin skin out I did I don't think I ate it you have I have nothing to do besides like the matter what he's stronger than
01:44:31
Brian Atlasme you know and so you how you bit him multiple times on the arm yeah okay yeah I was getting and like took his flesh off basically yeah I did well you seem kind of happy about that no no I'm just
01:44:42
Brendaand then you like yeah oh no yeah that is just that's just my energy I'm sorry no it's you're good you're good um uh oh yeah I don't know I going to get CLI now
01:44:52
Brian Atlasit's going to sound no you're fine wait so okay so anyways um wait so is he when you say he has you in a choke old is it like he's trying to choke you out or is
01:45:02
Brendahe like it's like a rest more restraining you like so I thought it was more choked out which is why I ended up like making that post but um because we
01:45:13
Brendahad ended up talking after it was him trying to restrain me because um when I finally told him like I can't breathe you I can't like I was like then he
01:45:22
Brendastopped uh like he was like oh oh oh but like we were both in like [ __ ] effed
01:45:30
Brian Atlasup mode uh okay um so okay who if if uh you were like rewind
01:45:38
Brian Atlasthe tape who looked more [ __ ] up like oh like like drunk no no like uh bloody bruises who looked more beat up um
01:45:49
Brendabecause the bruises on my neck came later on I did not really look [ __ ] up um okay he was cuz he had literal pieces
01:45:58
Brian Atlasof his arm you know and like he looked more so that's why when the cops came that's why they made were you were you you said because you said that the cops
01:46:09
Brian Atlassaid that you were like acting crazy or whatever were uh were you acting kind of crazy well I was fighting him and but were you trying to fight the cops and [ __ ] oh no no of course not no the so
01:46:21
Brendathe moment the cops came in he was on top of me and then uh the cops was like uh get off of her and then I I I I did you kick him in the balls like as they were pulling him off you right no no so I'm on the ground and then immediately
01:46:33
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the cops come on top of me and they put handcuffs on me and then I'm just like what the what's happening right now cuz I thought the cops were coming to stop the situation I thought I thought they were coming to like you know like stop it because we were both fighting and I
01:46:45
Brendadidn't think that I was going to be the one getting the tamed huh and you said there was audio recording of this yeah I I'm not sharing
01:46:55
Brendait no I'm not really bad it sounds really bad it sounds really bad I don't want to yeah I kind of want to hear it
01:47:04
Brian Atlasbut not appropriate for the stream um okay so that's wild um were you charged or were charges dropped what were there charges so the state didn't put any
01:47:16
Brendacharges on me and he didn't put any charges on me I just I went to um I went to the holding cell they and this is where didn't Co cooperate with the cops because I oh wait so but first you went to the hospital no first first I went to
01:47:28
Brian Atlasa holding cell holding cell oh wait hold on so they didn't they didn't 5150 you at the scene they arrested you brought you to the the jail yes and how long and
01:47:40
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)then from the jail they 5150ed you so how were you were you like losing your mind in the jail no so so so that's why I I wasn't cooperating I was like I didn't do anything wrong I was like this is not right cuz here's the thing I just moved into to his apartment and I'm
01:47:53
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)literally going to get dragged down in handcuffs on my birthday in this new apartment on the birthday how how how dare on her birthday like not like the day after like come on but anyway she's
01:48:04
Brian Atlasthe birthday if you commit a crime on your birthday they you know even if it's alleged right not saying you did anything they got to let you go that's
01:48:13
Brian Atlasthe get out of jail free card excuse me excuse me officer I'm Luigi mangion it's my [ __ ] birthday today I
01:48:23
Brian Atlasjust assassinated the healthcare CEO I get to not go to prison anyway so okay you're you're causing [ __ ] you're beefing you're beef beefing with the other cies the the people in the cell so maybe it's not a cell cuz I was alone in
01:48:36
Brendathere um okay you were in your own I was in my own okay so yeah and then but you weren't being cooperative no cuz they wanted my insurance and I wouldn't given it to them to them wait give your what my insurance like my health insurance
01:48:47
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)health insurance in jail wait that's yeah they were asking because they needed to know what hospital to me to so they were asking for what my because
01:48:55
Brian Atlasthey were going to 50150 you yeah oh but they were going to 50150 you because why I was blacked out with whatever he
01:49:05
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)said oh you were okay you were still drunk no so so you said you blacked out yes yes so when we were fighting no no so so when we were fighting I was blacking in and blacking out and
01:49:16
Brian Atlasblacking in and blacking out so I would wake up from black out wake up bite black out I don't remember biting I don't remember biting I just remember getting choked and then that yeah did
01:49:28
Brian Atlasyou remember the Taste of Flesh you [ __ ] cannibal no I you cannibal this is you know what here's what I think happened secretly she's a cannibal and
01:49:38
Brian Atlasshe's like I want his flesh take me to the island there you go you're going she wants the Flesh and she's like this is I
01:49:46
Brian Atlashave to Stage a domestic violence situation so I can bite him and then because I think cannibalism that's pretty serious but if you're just like I
01:49:57
Brian Atlasbid him in self-defense it's not a big deal that's what it was no I get it I know I know but it was my subconscious mind cuz I was not coherent so you end pressing tell tell us what in the in the
01:50:09
Brendapolice in the jail cell you were not being cooperative what happened um then they called him and they asked him for what my insurance was and he told them and they took me to the nearest hospital no but because you first they brought
01:50:21
Brian Atlasyou to the the jail C but then you were not being cooperative in jail they like yo she's got to go to the hospital we're going to 5150 her psych
01:50:31
BrendaVal why so I think that was the initial intention whatever he said on the phone so I don't want I don't want to get so there was something that he had said on
01:50:42
Patrice/Ivy/Kelly (mixed)the phone um you you could you could look it up like self harm stuff yeah okay that's why they okay okay so that's a better way yeah yeah and um because he had said that on the phone um already the cops came in with that