NALA RETURNS?! Nala's Husband CRASHES Show?! Single Mom Wants $5M/YEAR Man?! | Dating Talk #210

Date: 2024-11-04

Duration: 8h 44m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Mandy(guest)

SPEAKER_03Nora(guest)

SPEAKER_04JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Natalie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Production(audience)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Nala Ray(guest)

SPEAKER_09Video clips(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Jordan (Nala's husband)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Rachel (Andrew's wife)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Alanis(guest)

SPEAKER_14Vi(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteNala Ray introduces herself as married, with a clothing line and race car giveaways — returning guest from ~1 year prior

“hi I'm Nala Ray I'm 26 um I live in South Carolina with my husband and we started a clothing line company called be the change and we do race car giveaways”

QuoteAlanis drops bombshell: her bare minimum income requirement for a man is $5 million per year

“yeah like 5 mil a year is a basic minimum”

ControversyAndrew Wilson methodically dismantles Alanis's $5M/year demand by pointing out she's an overweight single mom living with parents who doesn't know the rules of her own trust

“overweight single mom who lives with her parents wants man who makes $5 million a year to marry her under a prenuptual agreement that he doesn't have access to the wealth in a trust that she doesn't know the rules of”

QuoteMandy reveals she was a self-described sex addict from ages 16-18, sleeping with up to 7 different people per week at peak

“I would say 16 to 18 right before I met my boyfriend”

QuoteMandy reveals her body count is 50-60 maximum

“probably 50 to 60 Max”

QuoteNala reveals her OnlyFans 'cheating kink' persona was entirely clickbait to go viral and make money — she was completely single during that time

“everything I've said on podcast is complete clickbait I did it to go viral to then make money and so many people believed it and it worked”

ControversyAndrew Wilson vs Nala Ray: intense confrontation about her calling him demonic vs. calling her a 'satanic prostitute', the nature of her Christianity, whether her conversion is genuine or a grift, and Christian theology

“you were a lying deceiving prostitute and you're like Andrew why weren't you just nice like what are you talking about”

QuoteNala says she sold everything — her house, Lamborghini, designer goods — after her Christian conversion, and now drives a Jeep in South Carolina

“I sold everything I sold my house I sold my car I sold all the designer things I had”

QuoteAndrew reads First Timothy 2:12 in Darth Vader voice: 'I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man, she must be silent'

“I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over man she must be silent boom roasted”

QuoteBrian reads his 'Psalm of seven sons' — reads Psalm 127 to justify wanting 7 sons

“Psalm 1274 like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in a man's youth”

ControversyAndrew vs JY (19yo): intense submission debate where Andrew tries to show the logical contradiction in partial submission (you obey anyway so why require explanation?). JY holds her ground; Andrew asks if she's 'too stupid' to argue (she said yes to shut him up).

“are you too stupid to argue with answer yes that's the end of the argument”

OtherBrian plays clip of his ex-girlfriend bowing to him when he comes home from work as an example of submission; panel debates whether they would bow to their husband

“I have an expectation that my girlfriend bows to me when I get home from the podcast”

QuoteRachel (Andrew's wife) joins the show remotely and gives nuanced defense of biblical submission based on trust-building over time, explaining why men sometimes can't explain decisions and why women need to trust their husbands

“sometimes men just have to be look this is what we're doing just trust me I'll handle it”

OtherJordan (Nala's 6'4" military vet husband) arrives on set to surprise Nala. Brian and Nala had been teasing his appearance all show.

“Jordan arrives on set. 6'4", Pacific Islander/African-American mix, military vet, TikTok content creator.”

ControversyAndrew immediately challenges Jordan about marrying an ex-OnlyFans creator and quizzes him on the Trinity. Jordan defends Nala and his faith calmly.

“I was just wondering what kind of guy you know marries a prostitute”

QuoteJordan explains how he met Nala: she came into his TikTok Live, threw him a gift; he eventually encouraged her faith journey not with emotional ties but through prayer

“we were literally just friends for like the majority of our relationship until we got married”

QuoteJordan reveals Nala was making $300k/month on OnlyFans when she gave it all up for God

“she was making 300K a month and she didn't even want that because at the end you know none of that's going to matter”

QuoteNora reveals her lower-back 'not yours' tattoo — got it to assert ownership of herself during a phase when men would say 'you're mine'

“it's a heart and in the heart it says not yours”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Status Round

Panel introduces themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian and Andrew introduce themselves. Relationship status round covers everyone from married Nala to perpetually single JY.

Standards & Pickiness in Dating

Discussion of what each panelist looks for in a partner: physical, personality, financial. Nora wants $500k+ minimum. Alanis controversially claims she wants a man making $5 million/year, sparking extended debate about realism vs. aspirations.

Alanis's $5M/Year Man Debate

Extended multi-hour debate about Alanis wanting a man who earns $5M/year. Andrew Wilson challenges the logic given she lives with parents, makes $22/hr, and has a trust fund she doesn't understand. Rachel (Andrew's wife) also weighs in remotely. Alanis gradually walks back to $500k-$1M by end.

Mandy's Sex Addiction Story

Mandy discusses her sex addiction from ages 16-18. Was on Grindr after getting banned from other apps for lying about age. Slept with up to 7 different people per week; maximum 3 in one day. Body count 50-60 max. Met current boyfriend on Grindr day she stopped. Boyfriend has 18-year age gap.

Nala's OnlyFans Past & Christian Conversion

Nala explains her OnlyFans persona was entirely clickbait including the 'cheating kink' content. She talks about her Christian conversion, selling her Lamborghini and designer goods, paying $300k+ in IRS taxes. Andrew Wilson confronts her repeatedly about the authenticity of her conversion.

Andrew vs Nala: Theology & Christianity Debate

Extended debate about Nala's Christian conversion, the nature of the Trinity (Andrew accuses her of historical heresy/Nestorianism for saying 'three parts' vs 'three persons'), whether she's authentically Christian, biblical submission, and whether converts can correct theology. Rachel (Andrew's wife) joins remotely to clarify submission. Nala's husband Jordan later defends her.

Body Count Discussion

Brian does a body count round: Nala (0/born-again), Nora (13, 3 in a day at her peak), Mandy (50-60 max, former sex addict, 3 in a day max), Vi (~8), JY (0/virgin), Alanis (didn't say), Natalie (0/virgin), Jessica (didn't say clearly).

Self-Rating Round (Looks 1-10)

Brian asks panel to rate their looks 1-10 (scale: 1=butt ugly, 7=pretty, 10=perfect). Alanis rates herself 10 (self-confidence). Natalie 8. Mandy 5-6. Vi 5. JY 8. Nora says all women are 10s. Brian gives his philosophy on inaccurate self-assessment leading to unrealistic partner standards. Blind vote by panel had results not disclosed on-air.

Abortion & Political Views

Brief segment on pro-life/pro-choice views. JY pro-life, Natalie pro-life, Alanis pro-choice (with nuance — kept her baby during difficult circumstances), Jessica pro-life, Mandy pro-choice. Brian reveals he would date 19-20yo Victoria's Secret model as a bit. Also: voting round — Nala voted Trump, Alanis voted Trump (surprise).

Submission & Biblical Gender Roles Debate

Andrew Wilson debates submission with JY (19), Jessica, Nala, and others. Andrew argues submission means full obedience even without explanation; women push back saying it requires communication and love. Andrew tries to show the logical contradiction in partial submission. JY admits she's 19 and inexperienced but holds ground. Jessica gives most traditionalist view. Rachel (Andrew's wife) calls in remotely and gives nuanced defense of submission based on trust-building over marriage.

Are These Women Feminists?

Andrew claims all the women except Jessica sound like feminists based on his charitable definition (movement toward egalitarianism, rejection of patriarchy). Panel pushes back. Mandy says women should submit more due to physical strength difference. Jessica admits she changed from feminist to conservative.

Why Brian Won't Get Married

Brian explains he doesn't believe in marriage because divorce is a massive financial loss for men. Panel — especially Natalie and Vi — push back and try to convince him to marry. Brief discussion on women doing 'wifey things' in relationships vs. marriage.

Nala's Husband Jordan Appears

Jordan (Nala's 6'4" military vet husband) comes on set near the end of the show. Brian and Andrew had teased this earlier. Jordan discusses how he met Nala on TikTok Live, prayed for her, encouraged her faith journey. Andrew immediately challenges him about marrying an ex-OnlyFans creator and quizzes him on Trinity. Jordan defends both Nala and his faith.

Roast Session & Final Notes

Brian goes through panelists' pre-submitted notes: Vi's Islam conversion, Natalie's date stories and ideal man requirements (thick/gym guy), Nora's 'not yours' lower-back tattoo, Alanis's emotionally abusive relationship with ex 'Pablo' and possible MS13 connection. TTS donation roast session follows. Show ends after ~8h45m.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasand then there's some other stuff about like being okay with like photographers taking yeah it's just the same things

Brian Atlasyeah nadle yes okay you said uh you're single you just got out of a short month situationship cuz you hate playing games

Brian Atlasand told him that uh guy won all about the same Christian guy who is perfect on paper but strange in person uh you dated for around three months yes like couple weeks in person in the other long

Brian Atlasdistance over summer he followed the podcast okay we talked about that he never held your hand and gave you side hugs while he hugged your girlfriends full on he hugged them full on he gave me side hugs this one of your

Brian Atlasgirlfriends did he hug you no I'll show you how he hugged me he'd go like this oh and my girlfriend he'd hug on full on that's it was really awkward sus it was weird uh you said no physical touch at

Brian Atlasall no hand holding very little hugging and no kissing yep uh you purposely broke or purposely before you broke up with him you started to make more distance uh saying you're busy with

Brian Atlasschool Etc and uh he took an anatomy class with you and then you red you uh withdrew from the class and then switched majors and then he was stuck in

Andrew Wilsonthe cloud yeah I was really chaotic so yeah real quick I'm sorry uh Brian I am going to do raid from The Crucible over here but I have an appointment in the morning hey than uh yeah it's 3:30 here it late it's a little late Andrew you

Brian Atlasbefore you leave I don't know if you wanted to have a final back and forth here or is it yeah what you got for me hard stop cuz yeah well I mean just so very very quickly I guess we can go over

Andrew Wilsonit um so our our main contention tonight was uh mostly over uh two primary ideas the first idea was I don't think it's

Andrew Wilsonappropriate for uh people who so well let me give you the overview so I I think that that's fair I'll give you the overview I think that uh Christianity is

Andrew Wilsoninundated with feminist and feminist ideology and I have uh a huge amount of proof that feminists use massive corporations in order to fund their

Andrew Wilsoninfiltration at Christian churches they actually allocate a huge amount of funding for this is why you see lgbtq pastors etc etc etc I don't think you would disagree that that's

Andrew Wilsontrue uh the two points of contention that I had with Nala this evening was because of this feminist Invasion uh it you also see tons of sex workers also

Andrew Wilsonwho use Christianity as a shield from criticism rather than coming to the religion and the faith itself from a form of humility and repentance and

Andrew Wilsontrying to um you know come to the faith the correct way instead they're infiltrating and using it as a shield from any form of criticism so that was

Andrew Wilsonthe first first contention that we had and then the second contention that we had was over the idea of submission what submission means she thought that because I said that the man has not only the last say but doesn't actually need

Andrew Wilsonto make justifications to his wife or significant other that uh that somehow equated to slavery and so yeah I wanted your takes on both those things so I

Jordan (Nala's husband)would definitely agree with you just on the fact that you know church has definitely been more watered down that's that's I mean you have one side of like the religious Christians who don't actually have a relationship with God

Jordan (Nala's husband)but point fingers at all the people who do have a relationship with God um and also a big part of that is you know though it's so quick for them to point out somebody else's sin but rather

Jordan (Nala's husband)justify their own sin um and then also within that I would also go into the part where you know like Christians themselves you know they'll go to like

Jordan (Nala's husband)all these mega churches and stuff like that and they won't actually get any like I guess you could say like meat it's it's more just like milk yeah milk you know um and like there's no

Jordan (Nala's husband)substantial stuff you hear more of a Feelgood Pastor rather than like a convicting pastor and in order to actually change your life you need conviction you know that's a big thing that the holy spirit gives you um and

Jordan (Nala's husband)then as for the submissive thing how do you know when it's the Holy Spirit oh you you know once you once you actually have a relationship with God doesn't mean anything does that mean though once you have a relationship with God you

Jordan (Nala's husband)know what conviction is because it's it goes more than just oh I feel bad about that like you it's hard for you to eat it's hard for you to sleep and you're constantly thinking about it because God's putting it on your heart just like

Jordan (Nala's husband)you like if God if you if you had a strong relationship with God he would be convicting you about how much you swear where you do have the title as a Christian because every single day your wife called me a [ __ ] and and she called

Jordan (Nala's husband)and trust me that's crazy cuz I can't believe you talking women like that but like hang on hang on your wife called me a [ __ ] MH and it's incorrect for me to call her a [ __ ] back it's incorrect

Andrew Wilsonit's incorrect for both of you oh okay but but only I need the correction right sir well you are the man and you are supposed to I see I see you are supposed to talk to a woman are Christian women supposed to be calling other Christian

Andrew Wilsonmen [ __ ] definitely not definitely definitely not oh okay so all night when you've been thr make hang on just to make sure I got this right when there's a provocation my way the correction must come to me never

Jordan (Nala's husband)to your wife well I'm speaking to you manto man and I'll speak with and I'm speaking to you manto man you need to correct your [ __ ] wife's attitude well watch your language again again if you are a Christian you would watch your language she just called a random guy a

Natalie[ __ ] called her a [ __ ] back well you've been calling her names all night you called her a [ __ ] earlier you called her a [ __ ] the aore the most swears I've heard tonight have

Andrew Wilsonbeen from you former liar the most swears I've heard tonight have been from you not anyone El oh no oh no I said the word [ __ ] oh my God are you a Christian yeah and where in the Bible can you tell

Jordan (Nala's husband)me anywhere in the Bible where it says perverse language cannot perverse language it up and what is perverse language profanity no that's not and

Andrew Wilsonspeaking like a sexualized language okay so do you realize that that all forms of what you consider to be cussing are cultural they're cultural okay saying

Andrew Wilsonthe word [ __ ] or [ __ ] or damn or things like that this is not an affront but you're you're representing God I'm trying to explain to you this concept let me start with the explanation then

Andrew Wilsonyou can make the argument that's fair yeah go for it okay so so we start with this okay let us assume for a moment that you did not know what any of these

Andrew Wilsonwords meant [ __ ] damn [ __ ] any of that right and I said to you hand me that [ __ ] wrench and you handed me that

Jordan (Nala's husband)[ __ ] wrench okay who have I affronted here I would say the biggest thing because of my prior military background I'm used to a lot of being around a lot of people that swear because a lot of

Jordan (Nala's husband)the people who do join the military are one you have your Patriots you know the good old boys and then you have the people who literally are they could have gone to jail or go to the military and they go to the military and then you

Jordan (Nala's husband)have people from lowincome areas where you know they're surrounded by that and they go into the military and they're constantly swearing here and there and here and there but that doesn't have anything to do with them that has to do

Jordan (Nala's husband)something with you you know it's like if you are representing God you know you haven't answered my question and you speaking who's being who's affronted

Jordan (Nala's husband)here I guess I could say me so you well how would you know if you didn't know what the word meant well I do know what the word means yeah I'm talking about actual facts right here

Andrew Wilsonright now something somebody didn't know what the words meant okay they understood what wrench meant and hand and mean you said hand me that [ __ ] wrench and they didn't understand what [ __ ] meant but they understood what

Andrew Wilsonthe rest of the words meant then who have you affronted with the word [ __ ] well they don't understand that word but their Spirit understands it there what is their Spirit

Andrew Wilsonunderstands it what we are all spirit this is just our body we're a spirit okay so have you ever in a good-natured way said hey [ __ ] how

Andrew Wilsonyou doing before I was saved yes okay post saved when you said hey [ __ ] how you doing and you're joking around with your friend let's say right who have you

Andrew Wilsonaffronted then how could you have affronted their Spirit when you don't even mean it in a coarse way it's still perverse language yeah but perverse

Andrew Wilsonperverse has a meaning and perverse is to be uh or to have perversion so the idea here is that you are perverting

Andrew Wilsonsomething as an affront to a thing this is what you're talking about is cultural relativism let me give you an example of what I mean if you so you follow the ten commandments right yep okay honor thy

Andrew Wilsonmother and father right do you agree with me that the way that you would do that in Japan when you walked into your house and took off your shoes and bow would be different than how you do that in the United States MH okay so then we're adhering to the same

Andrew Wilsonprinciple but the way in which we get to that principle is going to be different depending on culture right yep okay so then if it's completely acceptable within a culture to say hey [ __ ] how

Jordan (Nala's husband)you doing like it is in our culture for men to do that how could that be in a front to anybody principle still adhering to the if Jesus was in front of you right now would you say that to him say what to

Jordan (Nala's husband)him hey had pick up that wrench no I wouldn't say it to him exactly so why do you do it to other people why yeah because okay because it's culturally acceptable we

Jordan (Nala's husband)live in a sinful world just because it's culturally acceptable doesn't mean God accept it and you should know that as a Christian I would get on my knees and worship Jesus Christ would you get on your knees and worship me no then why

Andrew Wilsonwouldn't you do that that's sa religious you're not God right so so the thing is is like so what you're saying is you're a delineation and saying if something is Holy which is in front of you would you act

Andrew Wilsondifferently the holy spirit's around us right now and would you give it would you give it exactly the Creed in which it is did you hear that Andre the holy spirit is around us right nowo let me

Jordan (Nala's husband)finish the argument and then counter there's no argument yeah how do you know it's you trying to justify your sin how do you know you haven't made I haven't made the argument you don't need to make an argument I already know what you're trying to do you're trying to justify

Andrew Wilsonyour sin you won't let me make the argument you're trying to justify your sin there's no argument to be made make the argument make your argument but I'm going to say the same thing you're still trying to justify your sin oh okay well

Andrew Wilsonthe my argument then is that you have no justification whatsoever for making the justification for what sin even is go ahead and tell me what tell me what sin

Andrew Wilsonis let me give you an example is it okay for me to lie to a person in order to save somebody who's going to die if I don't lie let me rephrase that do you think do

Andrew Wilsonyou Jesus was cing do you think Jesus was cussing answer my question is it okay for me to lie in order to save the

Andrew Wilsonlife of somebody with the lie no no okay is it okay for me to say a swear word to save a 9-year-old it wouldn't ever so

Jordan (Nala's husband)doesn't matter no it's not okay so I mean yes I mean if you think about it but yes as in the fact that it's easier to you know like lie or swear to say 9-year-old the 9-year-old life

Andrew Wilsonmatters ask you this directly so then to ask you this directly if you could say the word [ __ ] and it saved a 9-year-old from having cancer would you say the word [ __ ] that's a tough question justifying yeah you're still trying to justify

Nala Rayyou're just justifying you're trying to answered your question he said no I know okay so but why would the saying though f word save a child from having cancer this is not even a real conversation I

Nala Raycan't even [ __ ] hear him cuz you're sperging just calm down chill out Andrew bro chill out because what you're saying doesn't even make sense you're literally you're literally saying that if you said the f word it would save a 9-year-old's life but that

Andrew Wilsonhas never ever been the case in the history of everything it's hypothetical to test the logic I know I get it but anyway you're still trying to justify your sin man back the hypothetical to test logic I'm going to ask you again

Andrew Wilsonokay would you say the word question Milli I don't I don't know why you do everything answer the I'll answer whatever question in fact when you asked me a question I answered directly yes or no and then

Andrew Wilsongave the justification so I'm going to try this again right remember I have an ear piece in when multiple people talk I I can't hear it becomes garble so real quick would you say the word [ __ ] to save a 9-year-old from

Jordan (Nala's husband)cancer you're bringing this all back down to you're justifying your sin again yeah just can you answer my question but it would never it would never happen yeah I know I know but could you answer

Jordan (Nala's husband)the question make a real yeah a realistic it is it is a realistic not realistic right hold hold name name one case where you know that

Jordan (Nala's husband)has happened someone had to swear to save a 9-year-old person exactly hypothetical hypothe hypothetical bro you're trying to justify your designed to test your logical consistency that's

Andrew Wilsonit if this was logical you wouldn't asked a stupid question like that bro it doesn't have to map on to reality it's just there to design it's just well you live in reality I live in reality what

Andrew Wilsonwhat land do you live in do you know what logic is America can you tell me the law of yes sir real quick real quick there's only three can you tell me the three laws of logic oh tell them to me cuz you're the

Andrew Wilsonone asking why would I need to tell you if I'm asking you just tell me three laws of logic that's my question three laws ofic you say no you don't know you just say no you don't

Jordan (Nala's husband)know it's okay I don't know but logic it it is what it is that's what it is and what is it whatever it is you don't know

Andrew Wilsonwhat logic is really plain sense logic logic is not plain sense all right what is logic to you logic is a math no it's

Andrew Wilsonnot what it is to me it's what it is it's a math it's a mathematical expression which is designed to determine uh something which is either inductively true or deductively true

Andrew Wilsonit's a mathematical expression for that and so since that is what logic is okay so it is anything which you can map on which just like with with all mathematics you can

Andrew Wilsoncreate hypothetical numbers to compare to other hypothetical numbers so that you can come up with a consistent algorithm that makes sense right it's like 1+ 1 = 2 2 plus 2 = 4 4 + 4 equals

Andrew Wilsonetc etc etc and there can't be any deviation or you come into contradiction and so that would rule out that these numbers could be correct because the of the third law of logic the law of

Andrew Wilsonnoncontradiction right so all I'm asking you to do is engage in a hypothetical and then I can map that hypothetical onto your logical brain to see if it's consistent with your position on what

Andrew WilsonChristianity is or is not so we can determine that it's logical then ask a logical question what does this have to do with you swearing I feel like I'm talking to chat GPT just stop swearing as much you

Jordan (Nala's husband)represent God and if you're not going to swear in front of God the holy spirit is still around us so why are you swearing and trying to justify it doesn't make sense to me you have sex would you have sex with your wife in front of God we do

Nala Rayyeah cuz the of God in our house the Holy Spirit he part of God the Holy Spirit heart of Christ do you not have the Holy Spirit I

Brian Atlasmean it shows it shows it really does I is he a Voyer or I didn't know he was into that he watches sometimes like the holy spirit is promised to us

Andrew Wilsonthat's why Jesus went up like voyerism the Holy Spirit came down to us uh I see okay so anyway if you want to perverse it you can it just gonna real real quick I'll just ask one more time

Andrew Wilsongo to and I would I would just like an actual answer to the question right if you can now here's the thing if you can point out where there's some type of contradiction or some type of logical failure or something like that then sure

Andrew WilsonI'll Grant those things as being fallacious but I I would like to just ask the question again uh if if you said the word [ __ ] and it were to cure a 9-year-old's

Brian Atlascancer would you say it that's not a real question give me a logic you love logic so give me a logical to move things

Brian Atlasforward though can you answer the question just just's trying to test your your your ability to use logic he's trying to test test and test your position do I follow

Jordan (Nala's husband)God yes wait you got to answer his question do I follow God yes yes the 9-year-old boy if I had to swear no because I took a vow towards God not to that boy there's a reason that boy has

Mandycancer probably it's US Government but is what it is at this point but there there's a reason that God allowed that cancer to happen that was part of God's plan what if God's testing you so then if that is the case that that having you

Jordan (Nala's husband)say that word God would test God wouldn't test me God wouldn't say you need to say this swear to say God always testing people if that was part of God's plan God does not test you if that was part of God's plan then why take the kid

Andrew Wilsonto a doctor what what what why if that was if the cancer was part of God's plan would you take him the kid to a doctor to have the cancer removed you never asked if he would take the kid to a doctor you asked

Brian Atlasif he would swear to save the kids's life I'm looking for logical consistency that's the dumbest logical consistency I've heard out of your mouth wait can can you just answer his oh wait no you

Nataliedid we move on this is in logic said no no yeah he said no Andrew don't you have to go to bed don't you have to go to bed or something is it night night time byebye see the bags under your eyes

Andrew Wilsonlooking like a raccoon go get your jammies on you would also have bags under your eyes if you talk to people who are as stupid as you all day you would also have bags under your

Nala Rayeyes Andrew you guys have poor Andrew he needs a cigarette so bad need Jesus man wait sorry Andrew I mean but but

Jordan (Nala's husband)hang on is God is part of God's ontology logic hold on sorry go ahead Andrew goad so we have we have humanic we have human logic and then your logic where the logic is what

Jordan (Nala's husband)is the distinction between human logic and God's Logic okay so you have you have God where he can do things that we as humans can't do you know like create things can he do something which is a

Andrew Wilsoncontradiction no like can God big for him hang on can God make a rock that's too big for him to lift no no he can he's god dude he created heaven he can make

Andrew Wilsonanything what is too heavy for him wait wait so he can Nala I just said no he can't he can't make a rock too big for him to lift right no okay so then his he has to have a nature and he's confined

Nala Rayby his nature he's not confined in any manner you're confined you put you put you're putting God in a box dude this is what he's doing all night bro putting God in a box he has to only listen is omnipotent and God is

Andrew Wilsonomniscient he's omnipotent then that means he should be able to make a a rock that's too big for him to lift because he's omnipotent do whatever he wants however if you're saying just because you can do whatever you want doesn't

Andrew Wilsonmean you are going to make something because you don't even understand what I'm saying like it's so because you're talking like a threeyear old okay so anyway if God's omnipotent

Andrew Wilsonhe should be able to make a rock that is so heavy he himself cannot lift it if God cannot make a rock that is so heavy that he himself cannot lift it then that means that he must have a nature which

Andrew Wilsonwould confine him from making a rock so heavy he cannot lift it that means that he's not he's confined to the idea that there cannot be a contradiction by the only way stop NOA for a second that

Andrew Wilsonwould be the only way he could not be confined right to a nature which was contradictory therefore could not exist that's the only way that could be possible in your mind in what you're

Andrew Wilsonsaying God is limited that is what you are saying you're putting God in a box God I'm saying God has a nature nature well if he can make anything he wants you agree with you literally agree with

Andrew Wilsonme can God make a can God make a God more powerful than him can what can God make a God more powerful than himself absolutely not okay then how is God all

Brian Atlaspowerful go to bed because one God would never do that wait so you guys can argue about this on you guys could argue about this on that look here's what we're going to do here's here's what we're going to do

Brian Atlashere's what we're going to do we're going to facilitate you guys already talked about it earlier oh he wants to have a debate in three we'll help you guys facilitate the the debate just so I can you know it is getting a little late here Andrew it is way too late it's very

Brian Atlaslate he on the East Coast well he's on he's 3 hours ahead y' we got to go we got to go uh we're going to I mean Andrew I know if you want to stay for

Brian Atlasthe roast session if you got to take off no I got to go us all night all right Andrew well uh Andrew thank you for

Andrew Wilsoncoming good night bye um good night guys it was nice to meet all of you it was a true pleasure I take I take nothing personally I understand that our job is to explore ideas and to dive into

Andrew Wilsonvarious different things and different points of views I just never take any of this stuff personally but anyway have a wonderful evening I appreciate your time Andrew thank

Brian Atlasyou appreciate it good night Andrew and goodel because that kind of stupidity needs to be forgiven but anyway have a good night guys I talk to him before you go to bed and then uh so okay we're

Brian Atlasgoing to get through we're going to try to finish this up I'm going I I know it's late guys we're trying to get through possible so I'm going to let some chats come in we're going to finish

Brian Atlasup the notes uh so guys TTS we're doing the row session $30 TTS if you want to get them in here at the end of the show there's heads up we're going to get

TTS/Donationsroasted so I'm so excited ISAT don't worry Andrew I'm sure he'll correct her behavior later just kidding he's a little beach and she can do

Brian Atlaswhatever she wants and he'll just take it because he's a s for her okay they're they're going to roast just like they're going to roast me trust me they're going

TTS/Donationsto roast me a lot tonight okay all right n as fak politics donated $2999 how does alpha chair 1 get beta

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TTS/Donationssimple questions that's not stupid answ their Al did he donated $100 this guy argues like the girls on the podcast he can't understand the

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Brian AtlasDemocrat he's definitely not a real Diddy for Trump I'm we have a bunch more coming in guys so just uh we'll let

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TTS/Donationsyou are afraid you will be found out for what you are low IQ you still did not answer the question I said he answered the question multiple times open your ears

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Brian Atlas$30 logic is the bane of these idiots existence okay Christopher Scott appreciate it we have a couple more coming in here thank you guys TTS is 30

Brian Atlasif you want to get a roast in that's streamlabs.com whatever uh self ID and Christian simps are the most egregious variation by far dude tries to utilize Christianity to cope about marrying a little bleep you're not voice crack

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TTS/Donationsquestion that is a false dilemma the boy with cancer and swearing in a cure that's a logical fallacy Andrew try again just use Hitchens razor Hitchens razor

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Nala Rayslightly larger than average pen and a trash panda with the softest fur give me D same guy roasting as a

Brian Atlasabsolutely yeah do B A little curtsy no yeah curtsy then bow it was okay I give it like a C+ and you would know you would know

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Brian Atlassingle I'm not single no Andrew God was woman until she changed her mind oh gosh no

Brian Atlaswrong uh BL the chat people are uh Stupid here's some premium logic uh Nala oh man why you got make me

Brian Atlasread this with random dudes on camera women who blank on camera are PW your wife Ona p word well not that p word never mind you sound like a porn addict I mean her body counts literally three when it came to guys so I know way more

TTS/Donationspeople how do you feel that him looking at your wife's Kitty right now Nala how do you feel knowing that I'm viewing this for free sounds like you need to be set free

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TTS/DonationsAndrew no God better okay SC is a donated $30 Nala I am so proud of you and the journey you are on

TTS/Donationsalso your hubby is a stun yes he Andrew is the reason people leave Christianity that was donated

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Brian Atlasoh bro I'm not going to read some of this but uh also oooo all around the table can can we get an oo oo no what is that oo you do I know what that is do it here Nala you do it he

Nala Raysaying a word like [ __ ] is wrong but can walk around wearing skimpy shorts with no mod bro it's literally 90° in here lay off if you were sitting here for 8

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TTS/Donationsin the morning lululu donated $30 I'll be fair I don't think bro is intelligent but lacks experience debating he just came on spontaneously and hasn't

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TTS/Donationsworker you'll do nothing Lil simp now push definitely not true be 99 I stuck up for Nala earlier that she

TTS/Donationsonly owes repentance to God but Jordan are you really lecturing a fellow Christian for swearing and then threatening lives for a stupid comment

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TTS/Donationsbeginning and you are wearing a [ __ ] jumper you Ard low IQ who who's wearing a jumper jumper no one wearing a jumper my guy L paladins donated $30 dude I

TTS/Donationscan't believe you used to be in the military did you not ever hear about white Knights did your camiro come with an 18% interest rate loan why didn't anyone warn

Brian Atlasyou storm bless to Christian man you talk about PE uh porn corn addiction how did you find this uh blank and what on Earth would compel you as a Christian

TTS/Donationsman to go for a woman who participated in cornography so we are friends first H night but another big thanks to

TTS/DonationsBrian and the team for providing such a great podcast don't take their hard work for granted don't take it for granted all the best You Beautiful People yeah

Nala Raybut I stopped her from doing porn Lally oh you stopped her yeah okay well I'll let the rest come in we can get into

Nala Raythat a bit later but honestly let's die hours a fulltime

TTS/Donationsjob I am a of but I think he tried to put God in a box with logic you cannot work out God with logic and you do during the Holy

TTS/DonationsSpirit go go the underscore do donated $29 she just acted like 304 and you were in front of her husband even after he

Brian Atlassaid no couldn't help herself well I thought I thought he said no to him to him doing the oooo yeah yeah he did okay

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TTS/Donationsyou uh T teila why that are you infantry or are you INF or Andrew's pasta donated $30 Nala hold your your husband close

TTS/Donationsvirgin white girl has been deriding him since he got there oh what what does that mean what virgin white girl which

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TTS/Donationstable and everyone watching can see your fat Thug app does not help your case learn from chairs 4

TTS/Donationsand8 do donated $30 Nala and hubby just know that in 8 months the holy spirit's speaks through you let your life continue to be a living testimony you

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Natalieman Matthew 15:11 stop cussing Andrew prach yes wake him up and tell him please all right get him right now here

Brian Atlaspull up twitch we'll do a couple more notes then we'll try to get out of here soon Brian n n what give me give me a little time okay I got a couple questions for you a little I given you 8

Nala Rayhours and 7even minutes of time hey look we're almost we got a literally Drive 3 hours out of here where you guys going okay so pull up twitch go ahead pull up twitch guys final call to go to Twitch

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Nala Rayalmost there we need 100 more followers actually we only need 98 more followers so you guys thank you so much for coming in tonight and being here eight hours of Our Lives booty sweating welcome in thank you for that follow appreciate you booty swea thank okay yeah we're all

Brian Atlassweating over here man all our booties are okay let's see we my back is drenched right now uh I'm sure someone while I get through the notes get those supers pulled up here I'll just read this one awesome gram how would you feel

Brian Atlasif you didn't eat breakfast this morning I think this is a question for you not great but he did eat breakfast this morning he had a really big burrito did there it is okay thank you Austin

Brian Atlasand then uh get the rest of those pulled up okay so let me finish off the notes I'm sure if you guys want Last Call on the if you want we'll still do the $30 TTS after we finish up all the notes

Brian Atlaswe'll try to get through this all quick so uh going to your notes yes uh let's see there was you met the dudes mom instagam and she's an Instagram influencer 20K followers she flew in for

Brian Atlasa weekend and complains about meeting me and how she was taking time out of her schedule to meet you I broke up with him two days before concert we were going to go together and he bought the ticket off with him it was very chaotic whatever I

Brian Atlassent you cuz it's was very late at night it was very very chaotic okay I'll just move on to the next one uh Olive Garden you didn't feel well eating the food uh this all my he made fun of you in the

Nataliecar he ended the leftovers yeah was the middle the winter that was like my first date ever in high school I was 16 and I had a previous eating disorder and he made fun of it cuz I didn't want to eat my food cuz I was nervous to be around

Brian Atlashim okay let's see well let's just we're going to skip to your musts in a man you say not boy oop what is that I don't know what that means like I don't know okay be a Christian mhm and you help

Brian Atlaseach other grow in faith more waiting for marriage conservative wants to own a gun can protect you likes to work out be healthy wants a family two to four kids more natural holistic with food medicine but will still go to the hospital if

Brian Atlasneeded emergency surgeries real medicine if in pain athletic must have good running

Natalieform I have a story okay so I've been a runner since I was 7 years old competitively um and that guy who wouldn't hug me he had the worst running

Natalieform ever it was hor a duck it gave meing like his legs his legs were flailing and I was like bro bring it in tight and lock it in when you're he's a

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)little gimpy yes and like that's such it like I need I need also a man who's faster than me okay I don't know why but yeah I'm very competitive he has to be better than me athletically wait so at some point in your relationship y'all

Brian Atlaslike raced and you knew that you would be faster than no he told me his time for running and it was really slow compared to mine nice going to you here Nora uh you have a a [ __ ] stamp I don't

Brian Atlasknow don't they call that in ger German I do what do you call that what do you call that in German TR oh it's the same I didn't even know I was can you can you show it no what does it say though it's

Brian Atlasso bad I want to get it tell us what it says so bad wait can you like it's like scoot into the table tilt the mic down and can I have you scoot your mic to the edge of the table a little bit uh okay tilt your mic down tilt your mic down

Noradown down down from the back from the back yep there you go okay so it's a heart and in the heart it says not yours

Norayeah so like what's the what's the back I was like if a guy is like you know [ __ ] me and saying I'm not yours I'm like I'm not yours you know I'm

Brian Atlasmine wow that is the worst wait stop can you you can't show

Brian Atlasit to us no it's like okay so guys it's a heart and inside the heart it says not

Brian AtlasI need to see it later I'm sorry and I got for fre you can't show it you got for free I got all my tats for free all oh boy that you maybe you

Brian Atlasshould wait so just a okay so my it says not yours and you got it with the for

Brian Atlasthe express purpose if a guy is hitting it from the back you want him to know that the [ __ ] ain't his is that do I understand that into the

Noramic into the mic into the M myself into the mic into the mic not my whole body like myself like I'm not yours because a lot of guys say yeah you're mine you're mine and I I didn't like that what's what's actually wrong with that yeah it

Brian Atlasis that like an enduring it was a face so you regret it yes I do so but so you're fine with the guy saying you're mine now I am yes because I found the right guy damn that's that's a crazy I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to see if we can find a a picture of it because that's crazy okay that's cool so okay let's see what else uh thoughts on Modern dating from you you said modern dating is all about the balance between having so many options and still wanting to form

Brian Atlasmeaningful connections apps have made meeting people easier but they've also created a bit of choice overload your hot take best connections happen when people go in without expecting

NoraPerfection uh okay so basic like dating stuff yeah just like not on dating apps in real life you meet someone and it's like a special

Brian Atlaslook and you're like oh my God special look just yeah like the the the little twinkle in your eye okay all right I see um uh going to you Mandy you're 20 years

Brian Atlasold you currently have a boyfriend there's an 18-year age Gap yes okay uh dating uh uh anybody here object to age Gap relationships Nar if it works for you it

Brian Atlasworks for you what's the oldest those of you who are single here what's the oldest that you would dat so I guess you oldest you would date like 25 okay and just say how how old are you

Natalie20 I'm 20 and I would date a 25y old okay what about you um between 30 and 35 okay I'm almost 21 I would say

Brian Atlas25 I would also say 25 all right um okay let's see you said hot take dating apps make hookups too accessible to a point it's dangerous as

Brian Atlaswell as sites like only fans and pH which are promoting women DEH dehumanizing themselves and disguising it as confidence or self-love yeah I

Mandyfeel like a lot of the time women will say like oh I'm an only fans because I'm confident in myself and I want to and I

Mandythink that I'm like um what's the word I I wrote it down in that message um empowering Empower Empower like I want

Mandyto empower myself and I feel like by doing that if anything you're degrading yourself because you're putting yourself in that vulnerable position where anyone

Mandycan see it and I'm not like against sex work or anything I don't think that like sex work well I mean I think if it didn't exist it' be a better world but I understand that some people are in a

Mandyposition where that might be their only option but some people just go into it because they want to and because they think it's going to be some kind of like fun thing and it's just them degrading

Brian Atlasthemselves and then you know I don't know just I don't think it's a good look okay I'm going let a few more of the chats come through there's a few more

TTS/Donationsnotes Ryan Callaway donated $30 John one1 in the beginning was the word and the Word was with God and the Word was

TTS/DonationsGod Jesus God the son prayed to God the father that's how you answer Andrew next time Nala great show tonight John we

TTS/Donationsneed that early the underscore do donated $30 he looked at her and said don't do it but you can take the girl out of the street but not the street out of the girl made her man look like the lowest of

TTS/Donationssimps ebgb donated $30 unfortunate that number one is so loud with s they're just [ __ ] new bi Minds that can't understand logic number eight you're a

TTS/Donationsgem and I can only pray these others took some notes you are what men want one Ron's 1 D3 donated

TTS/Donations$30 white shirt standing up stay at home mom position open in MN no kids so mean there's some work to do Montana oh Lord

TTS/DonationsMerc I think MN that's Montana right or techno Hipp donated $30 Nala the heresy you're spewing his roots in gnosticism you lay foundations for the faith of the

TTS/DonationsAntichrist feminism is inherently of rebellion such was Lucifer's fall andw you couldn't be

TTS/Donationsmore wrong absolutely step back I feel like simp donated

TTS/Donations$29.99 simpness has spread like a disease luckily I don't show no

TTS/Donationssymptoms H storm bless donated $30 Jordan who cares if you made her stop corn as a Christian man I want to know why you would even move towards someone who

TTS/Donationswould do something like that him not even trolling I want to actually know why graffito taged donated $30 suspicious number of TTS tonight

TTS/Donationsthat have been glazing up Nala and telling her slay Queen you're an inspiration not typical of the whatever audience best explanation it's her promotional team dude I literally just

Brian Atlasmet these people tonight so uh to the John who married his blank does the blue crayon taste better than the red one how does it feel to be the ultimate Sim were you

TTS/DonationsMarines Air Force oh isn't the crayon thing about Marines Marin Mar Marines L paladins donated $3 I am the way and the truth and the

TTS/Donationslife logic is how you learn what is true and what is false grow closer to God by growing closer to logic women are manipulated by the devil emotion wait can I also say

TTS/Donationsthe legendary trash pan that donated $30 nal's Sim I am having trouble believing you serve based on how you disrespected your fellow service members top 1% of

TTS/Donationsour nation serves also the military SL jail thing died like 30 years ago actually false cuz I know somebody you literally just went F donated $30 Jordan if someone holds a gun to a

TTS/Donationskid and says to say the FW or he will shoot him would you say the FW also tell Andrew that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the father and the

Brian Atlasson okay did you want to respond to any of those I know there's quite a few that came in did you have a response or I mean Jesus is coming it really don't

Brian Atlasmatter okay trying to find keep that same energy when Jesus comes trying to find the [ __ ] Stamp I can't find it oh God look it's it's okay I'm just look

Brian Atlasit's I don't I can't find it what the hell this is good that is a good thing I can't even find a reason to be here right now bro I need to go eat I'm starving starving Jordan I I did have a question for you uh could you guys maybe

Jordan (Nala's husband)give us a bit of background like how you guys met um yeah yeah so we actually met on Tik Tok live um and she came into my live threw me a gift and I was like yo what's up um

Jordan (Nala's husband)and then we ended up just kind of like talking she always like came my lives and I ended up finding like later on down the road like what she did and like as a Christian like I knew that you know she was serving the world not God and I

Jordan (Nala's husband)knew for a fact that you know God could set her free so I was praying for her my parents were praying for her um and like I didn't even have any like emotional ties you know like with her I wasn't like oh my gosh like I want to be with this person um we were literally just

Jordan (Nala's husband)friends for like the majority of our relationship until we got married um and which sounds crazy to even say but um yeah like she ended up flipping her life around actually um she was she was

Jordan (Nala's husband)downstairs praying in her living room when God literally spoke to her and was like I was all you ever needed and she was able to give up everything you know she was making 300K a month and she didn't even want that because at the end

Jordan (Nala's husband)you know none of that's going to matter you know money all these different things isn't going to matter it's it's your relationship with God that's going to be on the line because God's going to ask you you know like what did you do for me you know

Jordan (Nala's husband)it's like I don't even know you and it's like that's the scariest thing knowing a man and people are like oh like well like she's everywhere blah okay but I didn't marry her for you guys I married

Jordan (Nala's husband)her for me I married her you know for my relationship with God because like she helps me grow as a person and it it it's about a personality you know I'm not marrying somebody based off looks cuz

Jordan (Nala's husband)looks fade and it's all about personality and loyalty and for the clip that everyone says oh she's a cheater all this different stuff it's like you guys made that go vir viral that was the

Jordan (Nala's husband)intent behind it clickbait it worked it worked cuz small-minded people like small-minded things so obviously blew up and then I mean did you have any hesitation though when you first met her

Brian AtlasCU when you first met her you were still involved in yes and so but you gave a pretty strong push from the gecko to get her out is is that my understanding okay yep um that's kind of in a way what I what I do for a living not like with sex

Jordan (Nala's husband)workers but just like help people with their relationship with God people come to me advice on how to break their porn addictions their lust addictions all these different things because like God will set you free I can't set you free but God will use me to help you set you

Brian Atlasfree and I mean did you have any I guess hesitations when it came to dating somebody who was involved oh 1,00% 1,00% because like one there's like a mental toll it's like okay like a lot of the

Jordan (Nala's husband)world is seen her but at the I mean in the end who cares about the world who cares about what that guy over there thinks I don't because you know he's not going home with you know I am has it

Brian Atlassorry no go I was gonna ask I mean has it um even even post Nala quitting doing the only fans has it presented any issues or in your guys's relationship

Jordan (Nala's husband)the history there I would I would say no I would say the hardest thing for me was like seeing people hate on her and it's just like she changed her life around and when she was in that industry you know people weren't hating and then once you did change people were hating and

Jordan (Nala's husband)it's like how are you going to hate on someone for bettering their life life and it's like it's definitely attack an attack from the enemy because like at the end of the day the enemy comes to Rob kill and destroy and and that's what

Jordan (Nala's husband)he'll try to do he'll try to take you away from what God has for you um and he'll do that through people because a lot of people even like walking around us on the streets do have demons M okay and and when I say demons it's more than

Jordan (Nala's husband)just an addiction it's like a literal demon because we still live in a spiritual realm yes we can see certain things but Spirits are still around us us demons are still around us angels are still around

Brian Atlasus but has there been like any sort of uh like issues that have Arisen because either for you Nala or for you Jordan any issues that have Arisen because I

Jordan (Nala's husband)mean we hear a lot from people saying well it'll create certain conflicts in the relationship children I would say no it's more just like I said like when people hate on her side and it's like

Nala Rayhe's very protective so he's here to protect me against anyone and anything that is like his biggest issue is that people want to hate on me but for me it's like you know what I don't care

Nala Raywhat you think it's my relationship with Christ and not yours so like I see uh I definitely see it from Jordan's point of view as just being my husband and being like you know what you need to stop hating on her cuz you don't live with

Nala Rayher you have no idea what it's like to be with her you know and then how loyal she actually is or how spiritual she actually is or how many times a day she actually opens up her Bible you know what I'm saying so like no one sees that

Jordan (Nala's husband)cuz I don't produce that on the internet cuz that's my personal walk with Christ people people will use social media and their past to Define them and it's like when in all reality when you bring logic into it to whoever that that guy was it's like that's not what it is you know

Jordan (Nala's husband)that's it's like almost a figment of their of your imagination you know it's just like this prefa of the reality have you had any experiences like with uh even friends or family members who have

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