NALA RETURNS?! Nala's Husband CRASHES Show?! Single Mom Wants $5M/YEAR Man?! | Dating Talk #210

Date: 2024-11-04
Duration: 8h 44m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_01TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Mandy(guest)
SPEAKER_03Nora(guest)
SPEAKER_04JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Natalie(guest)
SPEAKER_06Production(audience)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Nala Ray(guest)
SPEAKER_09Video clips(audience)
SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_11Jordan (Nala's husband)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Rachel (Andrew's wife)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Alanis(guest)
SPEAKER_14Vi(guest)

Key Moments

00:02:40
QuoteNala Ray introduces herself as married, with a clothing line and race car giveaways — returning guest from ~1 year prior

hi I'm Nala Ray I'm 26 um I live in South Carolina with my husband and we started a clothing line company called be the change and we do race car giveaways

00:59:54
QuoteAlanis drops bombshell: her bare minimum income requirement for a man is $5 million per year

yeah like 5 mil a year is a basic minimum

01:04:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson methodically dismantles Alanis's $5M/year demand by pointing out she's an overweight single mom living with parents who doesn't know the rules of her own trust

overweight single mom who lives with her parents wants man who makes $5 million a year to marry her under a prenuptual agreement that he doesn't have access to the wealth in a trust that she doesn't know the rules of

01:24:00
QuoteMandy reveals she was a self-described sex addict from ages 16-18, sleeping with up to 7 different people per week at peak

I would say 16 to 18 right before I met my boyfriend

01:27:00
QuoteMandy reveals her body count is 50-60 maximum

probably 50 to 60 Max

01:44:00
QuoteNala reveals her OnlyFans 'cheating kink' persona was entirely clickbait to go viral and make money — she was completely single during that time

everything I've said on podcast is complete clickbait I did it to go viral to then make money and so many people believed it and it worked

01:46:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson vs Nala Ray: intense confrontation about her calling him demonic vs. calling her a 'satanic prostitute', the nature of her Christianity, whether her conversion is genuine or a grift, and Christian theology

you were a lying deceiving prostitute and you're like Andrew why weren't you just nice like what are you talking about

02:06:00
QuoteNala says she sold everything — her house, Lamborghini, designer goods — after her Christian conversion, and now drives a Jeep in South Carolina

I sold everything I sold my house I sold my car I sold all the designer things I had

02:25:00
QuoteAndrew reads First Timothy 2:12 in Darth Vader voice: 'I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man, she must be silent'

I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over man she must be silent boom roasted

03:03:00
QuoteBrian reads his 'Psalm of seven sons' — reads Psalm 127 to justify wanting 7 sons

Psalm 1274 like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in a man's youth

04:46:00
ControversyAndrew vs JY (19yo): intense submission debate where Andrew tries to show the logical contradiction in partial submission (you obey anyway so why require explanation?). JY holds her ground; Andrew asks if she's 'too stupid' to argue (she said yes to shut him up).

are you too stupid to argue with answer yes that's the end of the argument

05:09:00
OtherBrian plays clip of his ex-girlfriend bowing to him when he comes home from work as an example of submission; panel debates whether they would bow to their husband

I have an expectation that my girlfriend bows to me when I get home from the podcast

06:02:00
QuoteRachel (Andrew's wife) joins the show remotely and gives nuanced defense of biblical submission based on trust-building over time, explaining why men sometimes can't explain decisions and why women need to trust their husbands

sometimes men just have to be look this is what we're doing just trust me I'll handle it

07:22:15
OtherJordan (Nala's 6'4" military vet husband) arrives on set to surprise Nala. Brian and Nala had been teasing his appearance all show.

Jordan arrives on set. 6'4", Pacific Islander/African-American mix, military vet, TikTok content creator.

07:25:00
ControversyAndrew immediately challenges Jordan about marrying an ex-OnlyFans creator and quizzes him on the Trinity. Jordan defends Nala and his faith calmly.

I was just wondering what kind of guy you know marries a prostitute

07:54:00
QuoteJordan explains how he met Nala: she came into his TikTok Live, threw him a gift; he eventually encouraged her faith journey not with emotional ties but through prayer

we were literally just friends for like the majority of our relationship until we got married

07:58:00
QuoteJordan reveals Nala was making $300k/month on OnlyFans when she gave it all up for God

she was making 300K a month and she didn't even want that because at the end you know none of that's going to matter

09:44:00
QuoteNora reveals her lower-back 'not yours' tattoo — got it to assert ownership of herself during a phase when men would say 'you're mine'

it's a heart and in the heart it says not yours

Topics Discussed

00:02:40
Introductions & Relationship Status Round

Panel introduces themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian and Andrew introduce themselves. Relationship status round covers everyone from married Nala to perpetually single JY.

00:19:00
Standards & Pickiness in Dating

Discussion of what each panelist looks for in a partner: physical, personality, financial. Nora wants $500k+ minimum. Alanis controversially claims she wants a man making $5 million/year, sparking extended debate about realism vs. aspirations.

00:50:00
Alanis's $5M/Year Man Debate

Extended multi-hour debate about Alanis wanting a man who earns $5M/year. Andrew Wilson challenges the logic given she lives with parents, makes $22/hr, and has a trust fund she doesn't understand. Rachel (Andrew's wife) also weighs in remotely. Alanis gradually walks back to $500k-$1M by end.

01:24:00
Mandy's Sex Addiction Story

Mandy discusses her sex addiction from ages 16-18. Was on Grindr after getting banned from other apps for lying about age. Slept with up to 7 different people per week; maximum 3 in one day. Body count 50-60 max. Met current boyfriend on Grindr day she stopped. Boyfriend has 18-year age gap.

01:30:00
Nala's OnlyFans Past & Christian Conversion

Nala explains her OnlyFans persona was entirely clickbait including the 'cheating kink' content. She talks about her Christian conversion, selling her Lamborghini and designer goods, paying $300k+ in IRS taxes. Andrew Wilson confronts her repeatedly about the authenticity of her conversion.

01:45:00
Andrew vs Nala: Theology & Christianity Debate

Extended debate about Nala's Christian conversion, the nature of the Trinity (Andrew accuses her of historical heresy/Nestorianism for saying 'three parts' vs 'three persons'), whether she's authentically Christian, biblical submission, and whether converts can correct theology. Rachel (Andrew's wife) joins remotely to clarify submission. Nala's husband Jordan later defends her.

01:45:00
Body Count Discussion

Brian does a body count round: Nala (0/born-again), Nora (13, 3 in a day at her peak), Mandy (50-60 max, former sex addict, 3 in a day max), Vi (~8), JY (0/virgin), Alanis (didn't say), Natalie (0/virgin), Jessica (didn't say clearly).

02:39:00
Self-Rating Round (Looks 1-10)

Brian asks panel to rate their looks 1-10 (scale: 1=butt ugly, 7=pretty, 10=perfect). Alanis rates herself 10 (self-confidence). Natalie 8. Mandy 5-6. Vi 5. JY 8. Nora says all women are 10s. Brian gives his philosophy on inaccurate self-assessment leading to unrealistic partner standards. Blind vote by panel had results not disclosed on-air.

03:00:00
Abortion & Political Views

Brief segment on pro-life/pro-choice views. JY pro-life, Natalie pro-life, Alanis pro-choice (with nuance — kept her baby during difficult circumstances), Jessica pro-life, Mandy pro-choice. Brian reveals he would date 19-20yo Victoria's Secret model as a bit. Also: voting round — Nala voted Trump, Alanis voted Trump (surprise).

04:20:00
Submission & Biblical Gender Roles Debate

Andrew Wilson debates submission with JY (19), Jessica, Nala, and others. Andrew argues submission means full obedience even without explanation; women push back saying it requires communication and love. Andrew tries to show the logical contradiction in partial submission. JY admits she's 19 and inexperienced but holds ground. Jessica gives most traditionalist view. Rachel (Andrew's wife) calls in remotely and gives nuanced defense of submission based on trust-building over marriage.

04:30:00
Are These Women Feminists?

Andrew claims all the women except Jessica sound like feminists based on his charitable definition (movement toward egalitarianism, rejection of patriarchy). Panel pushes back. Mandy says women should submit more due to physical strength difference. Jessica admits she changed from feminist to conservative.

07:00:00
Why Brian Won't Get Married

Brian explains he doesn't believe in marriage because divorce is a massive financial loss for men. Panel — especially Natalie and Vi — push back and try to convince him to marry. Brief discussion on women doing 'wifey things' in relationships vs. marriage.

07:20:00
Nala's Husband Jordan Appears

Jordan (Nala's 6'4" military vet husband) comes on set near the end of the show. Brian and Andrew had teased this earlier. Jordan discusses how he met Nala on TikTok Live, prayed for her, encouraged her faith journey. Andrew immediately challenges him about marrying an ex-OnlyFans creator and quizzes him on Trinity. Jordan defends both Nala and his faith.

08:00:00
Roast Session & Final Notes

Brian goes through panelists' pre-submitted notes: Vi's Islam conversion, Natalie's date stories and ideal man requirements (thick/gym guy), Nora's 'not yours' lower-back tattoo, Alanis's emotionally abusive relationship with ex 'Pablo' and possible MS13 connection. TTS donation roast session follows. Show ends after ~8h45m.

Transcript

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00:56:06
Nala Raywait wait wait wait wait wait wait 5 mil a year is the bare M yeah so four mil you don't cut it bro Don that money
00:56:18
Andrew Wilsonno I mean no I think the minimum would be like a million $5 million a year is your bare minimum
00:56:27
Alanisoh my God yeah it's not derived from money it's also because I have stocks and stuff and I I have a sub amount of money too yeah Blue Chips what
00:56:40
Alanisdo you got um I I don't know my dad's in charge of that one um he invest started investing when I was a little baby so um I so yeah so him sign up you know you know what's in the account um no you
00:56:53
Alanisdon't know what's in the account no I don't want to look at it so it could be for you know is it six figures seven figures how much is um I think it's a between six or seven figures that's what I'm I'm thinking right now so when I
00:57:06
Alanistell you my parents came and worked their asses off they worked their asses off so were there prenups um yeah if I get married they have to sign a prenup if you get married if I get married they have to sign a prenup that happened
00:57:17
Alanisafter my sister yeah wait they have to sign a prup like to protect your resources no so not if I get a boyfriend if I get married there's a prenup involved because yeah it's to protect mine to protect your assets yeah my
00:57:30
Alanisassets you mentioned your sister I thought you said that these were your parents' assets uh no because I have my own assets that are between six figures to seven figures right now that I haven't touched it's in her name I think yeah I have a trust and I have other
00:57:42
Alanisthings too they were given to you by your family but I me if it's trust they're not going to be able to access to trust um but still it's a it was a conversation that I had with my parents
00:57:53
Mandythey said well you're 18 if you find a husband they have to sign a prup so so would you be able to work to like maintain that sixf fig standard that you
00:58:04
Alanishave for the man and apparently yourself as well so yeah so right now um obviously I'm a recording artist um and you know how that goes I'm also studying in school and basically by the time I
00:58:16
Alanisgraduate and finish my masters and stuff and get my business running I will be making probably six and seven figures a year too mhm how how do you get to that
00:58:26
Alanisnumber um basically it's in Aesthetics I want to work in Aesthetics so yeah what what when like like plastic surgery Botox stuff like
00:58:37
Alanisthat figures what you're in school currently uh yeah studying what again um nursing nursing and Healthcare and I might I might go and study in med school too so you want to become a a plastic
00:58:49
Alanissurgeon yeah I went to a lot of med school stuff in high school I wanted to be a doctor so and that's what I wanted to do plastic surgery and I went to uh Newark medical school and I took classes
00:59:00
Alanisin high school um and they told me that I have a Gifted Hand for surgery um when they saw me cut open the pig oh the C yeah cab no I didn't do the kadab we had
00:59:11
Alanisto do um we had to dissect the pig and they told me to dissect the brain and I did it perfectly I guess so um I don't want to like say like oh my God but um
00:59:21
Brian Atlasbasically yeah that that's it I cut a cut up a frog in high school that's
00:59:30
Alanisnot ey no c eye cutting frogs over dissecting frog also like the the point of like financially too going back to it I live a certain lifestyle as well my
00:59:42
Alanisparents built a certain lifestyle for us um and basically I want to keep that lifestyle and that's the lifestyle that my daughter's growing up in right now so I don't want to minimize that for her too because then that would be a great
00:59:53
Alanisdisservice for her what lifestyle is that so basically um my daughter can get whatever she wants and it won't be a problem do you think that's good um she
01:00:03
Alanisdoesn't get whatever she wants because I have morals but if she no like no I'm I'm contradicting I mean like if she wanted something she could get it but basically the way how I'm like
01:00:14
Alanisfinancially saying basically how we're um I'm taking care of her as if it's no it's no and that's it cuz I want to show her how life is actually is because I
01:00:26
Andrew Wilsonconfused here though maybe you can help me out uhuh um I don't understand how your daughter's lifestyle would change if you married a man who didn't make $5 million a year
01:00:37
Alanisum well it was a conversation I had she my dad um my dad takes help because you're saying right this second your daughter can have whatever she wants and is already rich so and you have the
01:00:48
Andrew Wilsonexpectation she has this lifestyle okay I don't understand how that changes by marrying a man who doesn't make $5 million year what like he makes $37,000 a year how does that change her lifestyle so basically um that's a
01:01:01
Alanisreally great question so basically my daughter she's in a lot of different programs um that she can you know go to she can go to um some specific dayc carees if she wants to um and
01:01:12
Alanisbasically uh kids are expensive these days very very expensive but I can assume like now these days they're very expensive and so I want her to like just
01:01:25
Andrew Wilsonappreciate like like the stuff that we have because I was in a situation when and I can't really talk about yeah but I don't I still don't really actually understand this so right this second
01:01:36
Andrew Wilsonyour daughter is going to have this amazing life and already does right this second right absent any man whatsoever if a man comes in the picture
01:01:47
Alanishow exactly does that change I mean um it just so basically with a man coming in that picture he has nothing to do with my daugh it has to do with myself but it also has
01:01:58
Nala Rayto do with the certain values of being a go-getter that do you just not want that guy to like take what you have basically like for granted and just kind of expect you to provide when I when I was
01:02:11
Andrew Wilsonrequirements of preup right so the requirements of prup but I think and she already can provide all of this lifestyle I actually still don't really understand how a man coming in the
01:02:22
Andrew Wilsonpicture affects this at all even if he made like he could be the biggest go-getter in the world and only make 50 Grand a year right I mean also kids um they're only
01:02:34
Viexpensive if you make it so okay so I have two she has five and I make I don't make six figes or anywhere near Six I make 50,000 a year and my
01:02:46
Vihusband makes similar and we make in meet we live a very humble lifestyle and they are very happy and they don't know anything other than what they have so it's really it really depends on how
01:02:58
Viyou parent them and the things that you give them sure it's POS it's it's great that you can just you know give gift them things and you know throw lavish um
01:03:09
Andrew Wilsonbirthday parties but you can make in Meet yeah that's that's well and good but if you don't mind I would actually like an answer to my question if there's if there's a prenuptual agreement you
01:03:19
Andrew Wilsonsign the prenup you're the man right uh so he can't get any of your estate most of your States locked behind a trust anyway right this second you're accustomed to a lifestyle which you
01:03:30
Alanisyourself are providing how does a man even making entry level money in any way shape or form affect this lifestyle I think it has to do with the stuff that I went through in my past has a lot to do
01:03:41
Alaniswith what it comes to financially like the things that I went through I like basically lost when I was pregnant kicked out of my house and lost everything so that has a lot to do with
01:03:51
Alanisthat um with when it comes to being like a single mom stuff the man obviously has nothing to do with kids but I feel like it just this is my thing I went through
01:04:04
Alanisdating someone who didn't make nothing and I went through that situation and I don't like it I don't want to be in that situation so I get the prenuptual Greet men but I also want somebody who's kind
01:04:14
Alanisof in my like financial status range as well um or it could it just depends I know I I say I want something but then if I meet a guy and he's like starting
01:04:26
Nala Rayout with the business and but it's going to go somewhere then it's fine you know what I'm saying I'm not being argumentative here I just have a question so if you got kicked out of your house and stuff but you are
01:04:35
Alanisfinancially set how how did that happen so my parents weren't um okay with me getting pregnant okay yeah they were not happy were they paying for the place and
01:04:45
Alanisthen kicked you out or I was living with them oh Goa go I was living with them at the time I I got kicked out because I first I decided that I wanted to have a
01:04:55
Alaniskid and my dad got upset and then second of all I decided to stay behind my boyfriend at the time and you know have him in you know that kind of environment
01:05:06
Andrew Wilsonand rais the kid together so yeah I lived I moved back to Pake and I uh forgive me I don't I don't mean to be uh pedantic or or beat on this uh dead horse too much but I still actually feel
01:05:19
Andrew Wilsonlike I have not gotten an answer to my question how how would it how would it actually change at all if if you're this loaded and he signes a prenup coming in and most of your weals behind a trust
01:05:31
Alanisanyway how in the world would that actually change any of the situation for you or your daughter I don't I mean like I don't know what else I could say about that I'm just I went through a situation
01:05:44
Alaniswhere a guy didn't have the same amount of money I know how it is so uh I mean with my daughter yeah if I make that money it's the same it's the same thing but also it comes from a point that I
01:05:55
Alanisdon't want to be a provider as well I don't want to be the one again paying for rent doing all these things paying the bills paying all this stuff I went
01:06:06
Alanisthrough that I kind of want it to be that um yeah I have this money and that I can like kind of 5050 some bills with you but I don't want to be the Sole Provider when it comes to home 50/50
01:06:18
Andrew WilsonBill you're a multi-millionaire you said that a guy five a guy making $5 million a year is what you have the expectation of because that's what makes them on par
01:06:29
Andrew Wilsonwith you that is such a stupid incredible amount of money like an incredible amount of money $5 million a year I mean 5 million if you have that
01:06:40
Andrew Wilsonwhy the [ __ ] would he need to split the cost of anything ever that's that's like an insane amount of cash for in other words here I'll give you an example okay if you give the average man in the
01:06:52
Andrew WilsonUnited States right now at 25 years old $5 million he'll never have to work again and his retirement right he can spend liberally and he would he wouldn't
01:07:04
Alanisnever have to work again long he would have money left over after he died and you make that a year I don't think I think right now cuz I live in New Jersey
01:07:13
Alaniswhich is one of the more expensive like um countries and stuff um is an expensive country no not
01:07:23
Alaniscountry sorry State um is more of an expensive State and so I honestly I don't even think with right now how the economy is it's like a million dollars
01:07:33
Andrew Wilsonis like is basically nothing right now I'm just saying what are you talking a million dollars an astronomical amount
01:07:42
Alanisofan anybody I'm thinking about taxes so basically if you buy a house it's like the minimum in Jersey for a house right now is $500,000 then if you have a mortgage
01:07:54
Andrew Wilsonit's like basically like 36 to 50,000 a month and that's financed over a 30-year fixed rate so your mortgage per month is around 4,900 bucks with yeah my my home
01:08:07
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)so my home in Texas is $360,000 right but Texas amazing house prices for sure I'm just trying to give you an example so you can kind of understand um I didn't pay
01:08:18
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)$360,000 in cash to get that house I I put down a down payment and then I'm financing the rest of it through
01:08:27
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)and's that on top of that and so you know my my and then of you know property tax so your mortgage is like $3,600 a month yeah exactly so it ends up being makes sense that makes sense to me yeah
01:08:40
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)so it's not it's not um so when you're when you're saying that the houses in New Jersey are $500,000 uh to purchase you know it's not like that's how much they're paying upfront they're paying you know $4,500 a
01:08:52
Alanismonth that's what they're paying which is high which is very high but but you know it's not yeah and then also like grocery prices are very high now too you can get right now I went to Costco like
01:09:03
Mandytwo weeks ago I only got four things it was 200 bucks I don't think normal people shop at Costco well and also like a million dollars is still a lot of money like we're in California but
01:09:15
Nala Raythat's still a lot of money yes I mean a million dollars doesn't go that far in California no doesn't go that far million here Texas like a million dollars in Texas take you to the Moon oh no yeah 100% a
01:09:28
Alanismillion dollars in Texas you're like set because it's just different I'm talking about like housing market how it is right now um rent right now in Jersey is ridiculously high wait so this is okay
01:09:40
Andrew Wilsonfor a frame of reference this is $10,000,000 time5 that that's what you're what you're actually requesting right damn
01:09:50
Brian Atlas,000 $1,000 bills times five per year [ __ ] like that that is an astronomical number [ __ ]
01:10:01
Brian Atlasma wait it's okay hold on over here bro okay so uh and how you have just one kid yeah one kid um and you want so okay the guy needs to
01:10:12
Alanismake $5 million a year how old are you willing to date huh like what's the age range that you would date um it I think it really doesn't like
01:10:21
Brian Atlaspast 35 Okay so we've we've heard a bit about what you want a guy to bring to the table uh so you want a guy who makes 5 million that's a
01:10:32
Brian Atlastop it's more than one I mean it's what point maybe 0.1% it's more it's maybe 0 1% so you want a 0 1% earner Point yeah 01 it's
01:10:44
Brian Atlaslike yeah so what are you bringing to the table that because a guy making that much
01:10:50
Brian Atlasmoney unless he's like [ __ ] like he's probably got he can he's probably got a bunch of
01:11:01
Alanisoptions why should he date you I think um basically I can say that I'm a person that's very much like um I help you out you help me out type of person I am a
01:11:12
Alanisvery traditional like woman like when cooking cleaning um I tend to my husband that's how I was taught um but I also
01:11:21
Alanisexpect that I be tended back um I am also willing at some point if like the husband wants to have me stay home and take care of the kids I'm willing to
01:11:32
Alanisbe a stay-at home Mom I don't have a problem with that um and yeah I think I bring a lot to the table my I'm a very very nice person I'm very very helpful
01:11:43
Alanisand if you have a dream I will like follow it if you want to start a business I've seen it happen where a business goes successful I will be there um I'm basically that type of person
01:11:54
Andrew Wilsonthat I the business doesn't go successful but he has $5 million so it's already been successful but what does that mean to be there like no no he doesn't have $5
01:12:04
Andrew Wilsonmillion he has $5 million a year a year Well $5 million a year that's but but like okay so like be there like be there
01:12:16
Nala Rayemotionally like you know be there shoulder to cry on be there like but that's just a wife he's got mil he that's honestly just like a being the nurturer like taking care of your needs making a home actually feel
01:12:30
Alanislike a home taking care of the kids that's literally just a wife like um and I also want to go into real estate and rent but what okay okay okay hold on the question was what do you bring to
01:12:42
Alanisthe table you wanting to go into real estate and what do you mean by like bringing to the table cuz I can go 10 million different ways I could go like as a person what would make you attractive to a man who makes million a
01:12:53
Brian Atlasyear that man who makes who's a 0 0.01% income earner might be close enough like
01:13:04
Nala Rayattractive like what like physically attractive it could be but it could also just be like personality great sex you popping out athlete babies like the best chili in
01:13:15
Andrew Wilsonthe world frame it so there's no confusion okay a man who makes $5 million per year right and is just moderately attractive
01:13:28
Andrew Wilsonokay moderately attractive he's not the handsomest guy in the world but he's not the ugliest okay just moderately attractive what makes you guys evenly yolked why would he pick you um I think
01:13:40
Alanisthat yeah I do I make athletic babies I was a varsity soccer player and uh my family's based in soccer we're also a family full of Engineers too so
01:13:52
Alanisbasically I'll bring like well kids when it comes high IQ kids have you taken the IQ test I haven't taken an IQ test but um do she's in school to be a plastic surgeon
01:14:01
Alanislike no she got a high she got High um and basic Ryan's face um and then basically I think just as personality I think I have a really
01:14:13
Alanisgreat personality and very kind and understanding and very based in my Catholic faith as well and then with sex I don't like to talk about that that's a very private conversation um but yeah I
01:14:24
Alanismean I got pregnant that's what I can say about that so she's fertile yeah she's quite fertile so the extension of the question is just this the man who you're looking
01:14:36
Andrew Wilsonfor as $5 million and moderately attractive has so many options available to him it's ridiculous he has almost more options available to him in women
01:14:47
Andrew Wilsonthan almost any other type of man on planet Earth right in fact like short of possibly being an an Olympic uh you know athlete who also is a
01:14:58
Andrew Wilsonmulti-millionaire this is like the next tier of uh men who can basically get whatever type of woman they want why exactly do you think he would pick you specifically out of all the women who
01:15:09
Alanisare available to him that's what the question is getting I think basically um I'm not like it might seem because I want a $5 million man it might seem that I'm really like oh he has a lot of money
01:15:21
Alanisd d no I think it has more sense to be in the same type of like way that I'm in right now if I can like since I think um yeah you can have all the women in the world and some
01:15:33
Alaniswomen are some women are just there you can get a woman that really just wants you for money you can get a an escort you could get whatever you want you know what I'm saying when you have that much cash I think it's the person you need a
01:15:47
Alaniswoman that really at that point holds you down and is the one that helps you manage everything I guess in a sort of sense what does hold down mean yeah I was thinking something crazy what does that mean let
01:15:59
Nala Rayme Google that [ __ ] I don't know I'm too white to know what pull down the fort like I'm too white for that hold you down I'm too white for that meaning hold on grounds you like grounds you mean a
01:16:11
Brian Atlaslot of things only the white people know I that was down to take $9,000 a week I thought hold you down was like had to do with money like if there's a rough spot financially they'll hold you I thought
01:16:23
Alanisthat was the it could be Tak a lot I guess it could be a no yeah like somebody who like ground like grounds you basically okay yeah I feel like you know chains you down
01:16:35
Nala Raywhatever you're going a different direction just like the old ball and chain you know um oh my God it's like
01:16:47
Alanisuh wait how much money do you make per year right now I'm a student right now I well my my program is is very rigorous
01:16:56
Alanisso basically I work a part-time right now so I can focus on studying wait question for you so okay this guy makes $5 million a year yeah and you said you
01:17:06
Alaniswon't settle for less right yeah no I'll settle for like a th a million oh like a year excuse me a million a year wait is that bare minimum I thought 5 mil was the bare minimum no I said a million I
01:17:18
Alanisthought you I heard prefer prefer five mil you'll settle you'll you'll settle for a million I might settle for it just depends I'm
01:17:29
Alanisjust you know um settle for a million about 950 okay you'll do why you keep you keep keep lowering don't settle I'm
01:17:38
Alanisnot don't settle know what you want don't settle do you have something no oh okay I thought you had like you wanted to um what's your question oh so
01:17:49
Brian Atlaslike okay you meet a 5 million a year guy and he's he's into you and mhm uh he's like what would you just stop
01:17:59
Brian Atlaspursuing a career no what if he wants you to he's like I make 5 million a year you don't got to work quit that [ __ ] um
01:18:08
Alanisno I I won't I won't take it why because my um I have you know situations that happen to other people in my family where that has happened it's been taken
01:18:19
Brian AtlasI mean yeah I have a trust but how long will a trust last you know with how the economy I mean let's say you guys are married for three years he makes 5 million a year he's made $15 million over the course of the three years
01:18:32
Nala Raythat's community property you're getting half of that that $7.5 million you're set you're set if you're married to the guy for three years dude yeah and if he puts it in like a brokerage account or something that
01:18:43
Nala Raygrows compound interest life insurance policy grows compound interest IR I also no but he said so $5 million guy steps to you and is like we're going to get married want you to stay at home we're
01:18:55
Brian Atlasgoing to pump out babies take care of them and you're going to stop this school [ __ ] cuz Medical School very timec consuming you want to become a surgeon that's super time consuming
01:19:06
Brian Atlastakes years of time tons of money he's making 5 million a year M and he says this is what I want you going to stop no because I want to have have career wait so even to the 5 Mill year guy you won't
01:19:18
Nala Raybe submissive to him no no as in you won't be submissive well it depends on why she need to be submissive if this is what her dream was and if he loved her he would let her pursue her dreams that's that's the
01:19:30
Brian Atlasthing if somebody would love me and and know I mean bro dreams take a backseat when you're dealing with a guy who makes $5 million I don't really think so I I think like sounds like he's submitting to you but what what are the like what
01:19:43
Brian Atlasare the so your dreams you want to be a plastic surgeon to do what to make people beautiful well hold on I mean that's what I mean if we want to talk about bodies you want to give
01:19:55
Alanisyou want to just like slice into people and give them [ __ ] fake titties and [ __ ] I mean to make money no so basically my my parents when when I went to college were like okay they always
01:20:07
Alanisknew that my dream was music like I always wanted to perform and whatever well he was like let's be realistic you can't and this is probably going to be very like something that that's
01:20:19
Alanisum I forget the word controversial controversial yeah controversial um so basically they're like you to make no money in the US with music as a um well yeah it's very oversaturated so
01:20:31
Alanisbasically where you going to go coo where you going to go thank you Beyonce where you from oh yeah like where's your family history from my dad is Brazilian and he's colia my grandma actually used to sing in the radio in Brazil um yeah
01:20:43
Andrew Wilsonbut I mean the music scene in Latin America is completely inundated as well um and then my mom's from Colombia so I but so the okay there's the singing MH the singing
01:20:55
Alanisbro his brain is about to explode but okay you want to do plastic surgery your your husband making five I make you understand what what why like the plastic surgery cuz I see like your
01:21:06
Alanishead is turning so basically the the singing was there until I went to college and everyone started talking Middle School oh what do you want to do plastic surgeon whatever so basically
01:21:18
Alanisvideos while you're giving so basically when I um got to middle school they're like okay we got to think about college like you have to be realistic what do you want to do
01:21:28
Alanisreally good at science I decided that I wanted to go in into medical field and then it went from basically being a doctor and going into all these like Medical classes to get ready to go to
01:21:40
Brian Atlasmed school and then I decided to go into nursing and then now I'm deciding to go back but because music it's really hard to get popular can you help me out with something here because I'm I'm so
01:21:51
Alanisconfused wait wait are we arriving at an answer or I literally told you though so you can understand why I went into like plastic surgery and stuff because I actually yeah actually that's what I
01:22:02
Andrew Wilsonwant to ask about because I don't I don't understand you don't if I got this right okay my notes here you don't actually ever have to work again is that correct no I still have to work
01:22:16
Alaniswhy I still have to work is it a part of the agreement in your trust I think it's a part of the agreement with I don't know what the what is the agreement in my trust all I know is that I have to go and I have to work and make money and start my own business or if not I had to
01:22:28
Nala Raygo into the your rules or because like your parents set that up for you to gain money from the trust rules they like the people who own the trust set rules and stipulations up I don't know what the trust rules or stuff but when we went my dad's like either
01:22:42
Alanisyou're going to go to college you're going to study something or you're going to go into the family business that's it if I don't okay well then how do you live right now how do I I work I'm a
01:22:51
Andrew WilsonFLOTUS so I work on the weekends because I have my daughter and I also have school okay so right now you're taking care of your daughter and working and
01:23:02
Alanisthat is the income that you have yeah wait how much do FP B nobody is giving you I make 22 an hour sounds like a madeup word what does that mean you know you know when you go get
01:23:14
Andrew Wilsonyour blood test in the doctor oh it's the person who puts the needle and take okay wait I'm just confused wait wa wait wait wait help me out just help me out here get into the bottom of I'm almost done right with my inquiry so you're the
01:23:27
Andrew Wilsonone working right now you're the one supporting your daughter right now not your parents correct my parents are helping me support my daughter right now financially okay so they send you x amount of money per month or something like
01:23:38
Alanisthis yes and no what does that mean so basically um my parents my mom takes care of my daughter while I go to school
01:23:47
Alanisand my parents pay for her like Health Care like health insurance stuff like that so I can focus on finishing College that's nice okay so right now your
01:23:59
Andrew Wilsondaughter's standard of living is based around a $22 an hour single mother working is that correct no no no your daughter lives with you or
01:24:13
Andrew Wilsonyou both live with your parents we both live with my parents I see okay so you live with your you live with your parents and you're working and you make 20 okay now I now I understand okay this
01:24:24
Andrew Wilsonthis story right has more holes in it than a Swiss cheese block I'm just like trying to put it together here so I can figure it out right yeah okay I have a couple
01:24:35
Brian Atlasquestions here um you said a trust exists which is valued at between six and seven figures believe I'm I've never seen it but that's where I've seen and
01:24:46
Brian Atlasdo you do you only get access to it after like 25 or something like that yeah okay uh I have a
01:24:56
Alanisquestion if you were able to not work would you um yeah I mean sorry go ahead I mean it it just I want to like
01:25:08
Alanisestablish somewhat of a career first and then if I was given the opportunity like hey you want to be I know you like took your time establish a career and uh you want to be like a stay at home mom or
01:25:19
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)like not work that's fine like I don't have a problem with that so as of right now you're staying with your parents um with your daughter to save money because you don't want to
01:25:31
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)spend it yeah okay and that's why you want a man with $5 million cuz you don't want to spend the money that you have no I would willing to spend right now I'm
01:25:42
Alanissaving the money um and I work and stuff because I want to go to school and have a career so I can make amount of money
01:25:50
Alanisbecause I don't know honestly I'm I know there's a trust I don't know what the trust rules are and everything so basically I you don't you don't know
01:26:02
Andrew Wilsonwhat the rules of your own trust are no we haven't had that conversation I know what trust I can okay I'm not going to lie I'm not going to show I'm just not good at Sugar coding things so I just I I want to repeat back to you what I'm
01:26:15
Andrew Wilsonhearing so that you understand my perspective okay and granted this is going to sound mean but I'm not trying to I'm just repeating back what I'm hearing M this this is the Highlight
01:26:25
Andrew Wilsonfrom this m overweight single mom who lives with her parents wants man who makes $5 million a year to marry her under a prenuptual agreement that he
01:26:36
Andrew Wilsondoesn't have access to the wealth in a trust that she doesn't know the rules of or how much is in it is it does that summarize it yeah but you know I get it I'm
01:26:48
Andrew Wilsonoverweight no no that's not the that's not the key in point what I'm looking at is that that the idea the idea versus the reality of the thing that's okay
01:26:59
Vithat's what summarizes it yeah if you want to go ahead I think what he's just trying to say it's it's a it's a bit not realistic
01:27:10
Alanisyour expectations are not that's what I a lot of yeah I mean that's why you5 million a year I said standards are high I don't and I keep saying that I don't know if it's going
01:27:22
Alanisto change now these are my standards right now it can change when I meet the right man God doesn't know what he's going to put for me this is what I've been saying like all I've been saying well it can change this is what my standards are right now it can change so
01:27:35
Alanisthat's what high standards that's cool yeah high standards I have high standards I've been through a lot of crap so like it just that's where it is I high standards doesn't have to do with someone making million I've always wanted to ask a woman who said that a
01:27:47
Andrew Wilsonquestion the question of you know you never know who God's going to send for you right I agree with that by the way but I got to ask ask you something if you prayed every single day for this perfect man and you never got him and
01:28:00
Andrew Wilsonthen you died and you met God would you tell God that you were angry with him that he didn't send you that man that's a good question no no okay I didn't think that you would so why in the world
01:28:11
Andrew Wilsonwould you think that God would want to send a man to suffer right why why would he why would God send a man with $5 million to suffer because you really wanted that man did I mean I always
01:28:23
Nala Raywonder if women ever think think about the other in I'm sorry wait how would she how would he suffer yeah what suffer you need do explain so this case right in this particular case um I just
01:28:35
Andrew Wilsonsummarized the position she's in right but if we are to assume for a moment that you think okay I'm a prize or I'm the prize or whatever right I wonder if women ever internalize this in their
01:28:46
Andrew Wilsonprayer of the thing want the thing I want I want thing I pray for thing that uh you might suck right and if you did
01:28:55
Andrew Wilsonwhy would God send a man to suffer for you that's what I always wonder I always wonder if they ever think about the other side of the coin did God not send
01:29:05
Nala RayJesus to suffer for all of us yeah cuz he died on the cross God Jesus is God's son yeah no Jesus Is God you're a trinitarian Jesus is god well I'm not a trinitarian I believe in the father Son
01:29:18
Andrew Wilsonand Holy Spirit but he's called the Son of God because he's the son of God no he's called by John God himself he allowed him to be prayed to Jesus Christ is God you can pray to Jesus absolutely
01:29:28
Nala Raybut he is God's son no he is God the Trinity then why does the bible specifically say that God is in heaven on the throne and Jesus is at his right hand there are two but they are also one
01:29:39
Mandyyeah listen there is there is one God what Bible are you reading but isn't Jesus like the physical embodiment of God God so basically trying to answer trying to answer the question right
01:29:51
Nala Rayright but what man what what does your question have to do with anything like talking about a man suffering for her if God sent her a man how would he suffer it should be the right one that God saying that why don't women ever have
01:30:03
Andrew Wilsonthe expectation that perhaps God wouldn't want to send them a man because he didn't want that man to suffer cuz the woman isn't that great right that's I think if you re worded the thing that
01:30:14
Nala Rayway am I hearing this right I don't I don't I think he should have rewarded it I heard it pretty well I think he should have rewarded it to be honest because rewarded yeah you saying that okay if
01:30:26
Nala Rayyou are you saying that like if God sent her a man he would suffer are you saying that she deserves to be single because if God sent her a man he would suffer I'm not doing any of those things I'm asking a simple question question my
01:30:38
Andrew Wilsonperview is this yeah I heard that if you pray for X thing in this case another human being another human being has free will you agree with me right they have free so the sequence here would be that God would have to influence this human
01:30:51
Andrew Wilsonbeing to put him in your path through some sequence of events if if this is the case that that is true I often wonder if women who pray for the mighty $5 million man to come in and do
01:31:03
Andrew Wilsonwhatever it is why they think it is that God would want to perhaps make this man suffer on behalf of that woman I wonder if they ever God doesn't use people like that absolutely not I wonder if they
01:31:14
Andrew Wilsonever think of it in alternative terms I'm not saying God operates that way I'm asking from the Viewpoint of the person who's praying for a man did she ever say that she was praying for a man that you said that you were praying for a man I
01:31:26
Brian Atlasnever she never said that you never you never know who God back I said you never know who God but I'm not saying I'm directly playing a god oh I got to move it on a little bit I have to do one more question here and then we got to read a
01:31:38
Brian Atlascouple chats and stuff but just really quick going back to my thing I said you meet this $5 million guy and he said CU you have your Pursuits when it comes to your medical school plastic surgery
01:31:49
Brian AtlasPursuits what have you nursing uh he's like oh I want kids I want you to stay at home take care of the kids makes $5 million a year I think I
01:32:01
Brian Atlasalready answered this question yep yeah no but just clarifying so you will not listen to him you won't be submissive to him you'll be like no actually I want to keep working even though you make so much [ __ ] money I don't need to work
01:32:12
Alanisis just so I understand it um yeah that was my answer I think if somebody loved me and knew enough that I wanted to start my career and stuff and establish a career and okay so what what is the
01:32:25
Brian Atlaspurpose of your career my purpose for my career like why do people have jobs and careers to get money to be successful to to make money to make Mone but he has
01:32:36
Alanismoney and he's like you don't have to work I got the money okay yeah I say that I want like what's what's it called like a $5 million men I don't mean like oh yeah I I want to live with his money you know what I'm saying it's not that I
01:32:50
Nala Raywant to live with his money yeah he has $5 million then why but why would you want a man who makes that much money so that you I think it comes from hurt she said it a couple times she
01:32:59
Brian Atlasfeels like from her it comes from experiences she was hurt by her last guy left by her last guy if I dated a woman who made $5 million and I could quit this
01:33:10
Brian Atlaspodcast he want a sugar mommy y'all sign me up but hold on wait so that there's a lot of healing there you have a lot of time off you can get go to the spa you
01:33:21
Nala Raycan go to the spa abely private trainer private trainer a private sh dietician I think those are just her standards based off of where she's at now because of her P let's let's let her talk so no I think you got it right on the spot can I ask a
01:33:34
Alanisquestion yeah yeah you you believe in God yes do you think God wants you to leave lead this material life um I don't think it's materialistic I feel like if
01:33:44
AlanisI had that money I would donate a lot I used to I would I used to donate um actually um it was called you you how much would you donate
01:33:54
Brian Atlascan you donate it to me wait wait hold on how much how much the five mil per year are you donating um I think I would like to
01:34:05
Alanisgo um I think I would like to open up more schools in Colombia that don't have resources in my grandma in my grandma's town There's A rundown school and they
01:34:16
Alanishave to walk like 50 like 20 to 50 miles to get to school or they get to a bus up a mountain so how many how how many Colombian schools does 5 million a year get you um I don't think she said she
01:34:28
Alaniswould give you said 5 million a year no I said I would donate I'm just C I'm curious I don't know I don't know like I don't know how much of the how much a mill a year I mean like 2 Mill I don't
01:34:39
Brian Atlasknow like so basically if I'm the husband in the situation you ain't donating my [ __ ] money [ __ ] Colombian school colia can take care of itself no I feel
01:34:52
Alanislike so I feel like basically like talking about God I want I want to give back to the community I also like yeah I I live this lifestyle and whatever but I do
01:35:05
Alanisreally like to help out with the community I've been we did a lot of um drives for the pantry um growing up we've done car shows drives and we've
01:35:14
Brian Atlasdone things to give back I've donated money to um uh services and kids in Colombia and we that's sweet yeah so so how so okay the guy makes $5 million
01:35:26
Brian Atlasa year you're going to be like I want to give away a mill of the five mil yeah you want to give it or yeah what if he says
01:35:37
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)no we're not giving away anything because we need it okay that's well you got your well you got your got my own so okay what if he wants to donate your entire paycheck like he
01:35:49
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)wants to just live on his paycheck but he wants to take your paycheck and use it for your philanthropy that's a good question that's that's my philanthropy like if I like look we're not going to live on your money your money is going
01:36:01
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)to all get donated my money is going to get lived we're going to use my money to live on live yeah um my money is going to pay the mortgage the groceries the
01:36:10
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)kids all that stuff your money you can donate it all to charity um then what no like wait wait okay so hold on
01:36:20
Alanisokay in the you're Catholic right yeah in the Catholic faith aren't you supposed to be like submissive to your husband yeah and you're supposed to tithe as well MH yeah that could be your but I did I did also say that when we
01:36:34
Alaniswere talking about the Catholic faith that there's a lot of things that I agree with and I follow but there are things that I I'm not like 100% like would follow like being 100% submissive to the husband I don't I think that do
01:36:47
Andrew Wilsonyou not think it's biblical to be submissive and in what ways Buffet the Catholic faith is not a buffet it's not like you don't get to Pixies and choies the things that you follow if you're a Catholic you're you're Catholic or
01:36:58
Andrew Wilsonyou're not Catholic it's a holistic it's a holistic form of Christianity all of it or none of it that is Catholicism like you want to like Peg your boyfriend on like Fridays or something what I know you said you want like pick and choose
01:37:11
Alanisso I feel like I don't think it's like pick like you want like kind of a submissive kind of cherry picking you pick yeah it is okay it's okay I don't no King shaming here if you wanted to do
01:37:21
Alanisthat no I don't talk about this my bad my bad so basically um what was like you want like no I just feel like
01:37:32
Alanisit that whole like submissive thing also there's like a I don't think it's like taken as like fully submissive I feel like cuz when they go submissive in the Catholic people are like oh yeah you
01:37:44
Andrew Wilsonhave to listen to your husband but you also have to listen to your wife uh Andrew why are you laughing isn't it so I well I'll explain Andrew just like
01:37:56
Andrew Wilsonthis bro this is why we have beef a maniacal laugh silly Hees it's like I don't care if you say that you're a Catholic or you don't say that you're a Catholic I only care if you say that
01:38:07
Andrew Wilsonyou're a Catholic and then you say something like but my version of Catholicism is a faith-based buffet where I can pick what I want and I can take that and then I leave the rest of it and I only like the stuff over here
01:38:20
Andrew Wilsonand I leave this stuff over here that's not Catholicism that's some other allism that's not that allism right whatever it is it's not that it's something besides that thing and so that's that's where
01:38:33
Andrew Wilsonthat's where I get into disputes it's like if you say I'm a Christian and I believe in I don't know whatever whatever other things you believe in fine I can accept that but if you say
01:38:42
Andrew WilsonI'm a Roman Catholic that has super specific criteria you're either a Roman Catholic or you're not a Roman Catholic there's no in between the church I have a question chur anything
01:38:54
Andrew Wilsonexternal complete obedience to the church to be heretical and non- Catholic they would consider that to be non- Catholic so if I have a question right
01:39:05
Alanisso you're talking about submissive like I have to completely like just be like oh hey like you know my husband said one thing I have to be like yes yes yes yes
01:39:14
Nala Rayso if my husband says like um if my husband says tell you to do something un Christian huh tell yeah yeah and I have to listen well
01:39:27
Andrew Wilsonthat's about being equally or unequally yolked like there's a there's also a comportment to reason so God is the logos Loi the idea is that the nature of God is logic in reason that's part of
01:39:39
Andrew WilsonGod's nature is unchanging nature if somebody asks you to do something which is external to Christian ethics when you're a Christian that doesn't comport with reason they're asking you to do something which is absent reason and so
01:39:52
Andrew Wilsonat that point the reason you have an ecclesiastical Authority in your Catholic church is so that you can go to them and get Aid in those situations that's literally what it's there for is the knowledge that there could be a
01:40:04
Andrew Wilsoncomponent in a relationship where one person makes such an a demand which is a conflict with your faith and you have an ecclesiastical authority to turn to who can mediate that on your
01:40:16
Brian Atlasbehalf okay well maybe we'll come back to it a bit later I do have to move things on we have a bunch of chats that we have to get to Nala Devon Jackson donated sorry for the
01:40:27
Nala Raydelay we had to get through did you finally get over the cheating King Nala I am so happy we get to finally address this so as a viral Creator on only fans like when I was on only fans about 8
01:40:39
Nala Raynine months ago I went on so many podcasts because I knew the only way to grow my only fans was to be viral and it's such an oversaturated platform right now and I've been on it for like 5
01:40:52
Nala Rayand 1/2 years so everything I've said on podcast is complete clickbait I did it to go viral to then make money and so many people believed it and it worked so that's
01:41:04
Nala Raywhat's so like crazy about the internet and if you've heard it before it's very true the internet is not real so like everything I've said like oh my God I love cheating like dude I was so freaking dead single at the time like
01:41:15
Nala Raywho who would I have cheated on bro like so for me I made up this complete character that everyone believes in and everyone was like I was very controversial to people and I was very
01:41:27
Nala Raylike some people really really liked me but at the end of the day social media is just fake news so I never had a cheating Kink I've been single for such
01:41:38
Nala Raya long time especially when I was on only fans and I said whatever I needed to because I understand the male brain and I needed to make money and I was like bet but isn't the counter to this position that if you spent that much
01:41:51
Nala Raytime lying about that why should we assuming you're not spending time lying about this because you can as a Christian if you if you doubt me as a Christian you should look at the fruits of the spirit and if you really do like if you can't have an actual conversation
01:42:03
Nala Raywith me to see where my focuses lie now just ask God and look at the fruit of the spirit but if you're an unbeliever I don't really know what to tell you you can think I'm grifting you can think I'm lying whatever it is but you're just
01:42:14
Nala Raygoing to conce like you're just going to see consistency for the rest of my time on like online Instagram everything you basically you lied about everything yeah pretty much well like this is the thing
01:42:27
Nala Rayagain so like what what on social media is real like tell me what is it like people edit their bodies is that lying yes yeah so people Photoshop like what
01:42:37
Andrew Wilsonso like people can cast out on what I PL people who are authentic on social media are you one of those people I am I try to be I I am I jokes I mean I tell jokes
01:42:49
Nala Rayright uh things like that but yeah I think I'm pretty authentic no I'm not saying that there's not authentic people online I'm just saying the majority of it like even mainstream media is lies
01:43:00
Nala Raylike fake news because like that's what we feed off of so like I don't know other than the cheating thing I can't think of like another lie like my hair was actually red I did the aago face I was a gamer I was a cosplayer like I
01:43:13
Brian Atlasworked for five and a half years on only fans yep e e [Music] Pikachu oh okay here we got to get through a bunch of the chats we can come
01:43:25
Brian Atlasback to some of the only fan stuff we have uh graffo tagged Mandy would you agree that sex addicts after some amount of time don't enjoy sex anymore at least not as much as they used to but they
01:43:37
Brian Atlasfeel a compulsion to do it anyways similar to drug addicts wow um I don't know that's a that's a good question actually um I still enjoy it
01:43:49
Mandyum I'll I'll just speak from my experience I still personally enjoy it um enjoy sex yes with my boyfriend I I have sex with my boyfriend regularly and we have fun what about I mean right now
01:44:03
Mandyyou do but when you were in the depths of your sex addiction were you enjoying the I think at one point it got it did get to a point where I wasn't enjoying it and I was just doing it to kind
01:44:14
Mandyof yeah like similar to drug addicts it was kind of like numbing the pain you know cuz it does release like endorphins and all that stuff so it's very similar to drugs what was the uh going back into
01:44:26
Mandythe I mean you were was there you're no longer a sex addict or I mean I don't I don't I don't think so I mean I'm not like online just like scrolling endlessly trying to find people to hook
01:44:38
Mandyup with so I mean I think my relationship helped with that and it helped me see that and get out of that and you're 20 right yes from what age so wait you've been in a relationship for 2
01:44:49
Brian Atlasyears yes okay and you is your relationship monogamous yes has it been for the entirety of the two years yes okay so you were a sex
01:44:59
Brian Atlasaddict from what age to what age I would say 16 to 18 right before I met my boyfriend okay and wait when you met your boyfriend you were still a sex
01:45:11
Mandyaddict correct I would say so yes okay were you uh when you met him were you sexually involved with other men um once I the day that I met him I stopped talking talking to all of the
01:45:24
Brian Atlasguys I was talking to I liked him so much I was like this is the one like this is the guy I want to be with okay but you were there were like other guys in the picture you cut them off but
01:45:34
Brian Atlasthere were other guys in the picture there were okay um what was the scope of the sex addiction um like and I can ask you more specific questions in what way in what
01:45:45
Mandyway okay well uh what did it look like for example uh in terms of the promiscuity you I mean people will well I mean I
01:45:57
Mandylike a drug addict I would basically do anything to have sex like it was it was my drug you know I was um like I said I was going on dating apps at some point I
01:46:10
Mandyended up on grinder because I got banned from all the other apps because like I said I was wa were you on dating apps under the age of 18 yes that's why I got banned that's yikes yeah I know careful
01:46:22
Mandyout there boys um were you I assume you were lying about your age then I was and then I would like I shouldn't even say this but I'm going
01:46:32
Mandyto I would like on a separate app tell them how old I actually was so that they wouldn't like like if they did catch a case I'd be like I did tell
01:46:43
Mandythem which is really manip which I will say is really manipulative and shitty of me like I'm not going to sit here and be like oh yeah that's okay like I totally should have done that because it was
01:46:54
Brian Atlasfine because I was a sex addict no that wasn't okay like I don't think that was okay okay um and so this started when you were 16 I guess
01:47:06
Brian Atlasyou lost your virginity how old 16 16 okay uh and so like in the if you looked back at the peak of your sex addiction how many
01:47:17
Brian Atlaspeople how many different people did you have sex with in like a week period like the most I had had sex with within a week or
01:47:26
Mandylike um generally like uh Peak at the Peak at the peak of your sex addiction I would say I would probably sleep with a different guy every night
01:47:38
Brian Atlasevery night okay yeah so like seven guys in a week okay um what about in the month in a month every single day was there a month where you had a new guy every single I would say I would take
01:47:49
Mandybreaks I wouldn't I wouldn't always do like every every single day I need to hook up with a person sure but um in a
01:48:01
Brian Atlasmonth I don't know probably around the same amount of people I would hit up a lot of the same people so okay and then so did you have ever do uh more than one guy in a
01:48:12
Brian Atlasday I maybe did like two or three two two or three like like three is like my Peak yeah like three in a day yeah okay uh and would these be one night stands or did you have like a roster where
01:48:24
Mandyyou'd like see the same guys I mean a lot of them were one night stands and there were like a lot of ones that I would like see regularly so okay and you
01:48:34
Brian Atlaswere uh mostly from dating apps you said mhm okay and so let's see here so what's the most in one week like
01:48:44
Mandymaybe 10 guys or something I would say I I would say seven just because day like I said I would hit up a lot of the same people but you you did have at least one week where there was one guy per day yes
01:48:56
Brian Atlasmult and did you have multiple weeks where it was at least one guy per day not not really a couple weeks though maybe maybe like spread out kind of all
01:49:06
Brian Atlasright and so uh in a given month do you have a like your best month my best sex month your best month in terms of how
01:49:17
Mandymany guys you hooked up with I don't really keep track like that you think 20 30 uh I mean I started keeping track towards the
01:49:28
Brian Atlasend towards the end of the sex addiction yes I started keeping track and I racked up like probably like 20 different names towards the end yes this was right before you met your boyfriend yes okay
01:49:39
Brian Atlasuh do you have a sense of the total amount yeah do you know your bodyc like I said I only got like 20 down so I mean I'm sure you could like think back
01:49:50
Brian Atlasthere's probably some people you foret I would say probably 50 to 60 Max 50 to 60 Max okay Max like that's yeah Ma 50
01:50:00
Brian Atlasto 60 Max okay um which is bad by the way that's not a good thing and then you uh you said three in a day total I mean maximum yes yeah so how
01:50:13
Brian Atlaswould you do that would it be like a guy comes over like you schedule them in like 500 p.m. 7:00 p.m. 9:00 p.m. yeah and a calendar oh you done that calar oh God wait have you done that you've done
01:50:23
Mandyit too yeah but like yeah oh you how many guys in a day for you then three too oh three also okay yeah um well for me it would be like I would hit someone
01:50:34
Mandyup and then we'd hook up and I would if I like if I had the urge kind of to do more then I would hit someone else up and then it would just kind of yeah but
01:50:46
Brian Atlasokay that only happened like a few times sure okay uh hm and and um girls too or
01:50:55
Brian Atlaswas it just guys I mean I yes I have done it with girls before not many though okay all right any
01:51:06
Brian Atlasthreesoms no orgies more than three Z okay uh so body count 50 to 60 I guess okay Max yeah I'm actually
01:51:18
Brian Atlascurious we'll just we'll just do the the body count question out of the way now what about you 13 13 yeah but you said
01:51:27
Brian Atlasyou did three in a day yeah oh okay uh wait was it for only fans no okay no no no wait can I have you tilt your mic down a little bit let me Nala you tilt
01:51:38
JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)your mic down too uh okay wait so wait same people what do you mean how
01:51:46
Brian Atlasin a week how many in a week different guys in the week like four four yeah [Music]
01:51:57
Brian Atlasmonth five oh okay uh wait but you said you've been single for five months okay and you were in the two-year relationship okay uh and was this in
01:52:08
Brian AtlasGermany when you did the three in a day no that was here oh here in the US okay got it Germany that could not happen Okay uh here let me make this easy okay so we got uh the body
01:52:20
Nala Raycount zero zero a little easier Nala I have no idea range 2325 okay all
01:52:35
Viright I'm married I do you give a pass on married people not really
01:52:41
Vioh um okay under nine okay so eight all right that you um three three