NALA RETURNS?! Nala's Husband CRASHES Show?! Single Mom Wants $5M/YEAR Man?! | Dating Talk #210

Date: 2024-11-04

Duration: 8h 44m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Mandy(guest)

SPEAKER_03Nora(guest)

SPEAKER_04JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Natalie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Production(audience)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Nala Ray(guest)

SPEAKER_09Video clips(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Jordan (Nala's husband)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Rachel (Andrew's wife)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Alanis(guest)

SPEAKER_14Vi(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteNala Ray introduces herself as married, with a clothing line and race car giveaways — returning guest from ~1 year prior

“hi I'm Nala Ray I'm 26 um I live in South Carolina with my husband and we started a clothing line company called be the change and we do race car giveaways”

QuoteAlanis drops bombshell: her bare minimum income requirement for a man is $5 million per year

“yeah like 5 mil a year is a basic minimum”

ControversyAndrew Wilson methodically dismantles Alanis's $5M/year demand by pointing out she's an overweight single mom living with parents who doesn't know the rules of her own trust

“overweight single mom who lives with her parents wants man who makes $5 million a year to marry her under a prenuptual agreement that he doesn't have access to the wealth in a trust that she doesn't know the rules of”

QuoteMandy reveals she was a self-described sex addict from ages 16-18, sleeping with up to 7 different people per week at peak

“I would say 16 to 18 right before I met my boyfriend”

QuoteMandy reveals her body count is 50-60 maximum

“probably 50 to 60 Max”

QuoteNala reveals her OnlyFans 'cheating kink' persona was entirely clickbait to go viral and make money — she was completely single during that time

“everything I've said on podcast is complete clickbait I did it to go viral to then make money and so many people believed it and it worked”

ControversyAndrew Wilson vs Nala Ray: intense confrontation about her calling him demonic vs. calling her a 'satanic prostitute', the nature of her Christianity, whether her conversion is genuine or a grift, and Christian theology

“you were a lying deceiving prostitute and you're like Andrew why weren't you just nice like what are you talking about”

QuoteNala says she sold everything — her house, Lamborghini, designer goods — after her Christian conversion, and now drives a Jeep in South Carolina

“I sold everything I sold my house I sold my car I sold all the designer things I had”

QuoteAndrew reads First Timothy 2:12 in Darth Vader voice: 'I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man, she must be silent'

“I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over man she must be silent boom roasted”

QuoteBrian reads his 'Psalm of seven sons' — reads Psalm 127 to justify wanting 7 sons

“Psalm 1274 like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in a man's youth”

ControversyAndrew vs JY (19yo): intense submission debate where Andrew tries to show the logical contradiction in partial submission (you obey anyway so why require explanation?). JY holds her ground; Andrew asks if she's 'too stupid' to argue (she said yes to shut him up).

“are you too stupid to argue with answer yes that's the end of the argument”

OtherBrian plays clip of his ex-girlfriend bowing to him when he comes home from work as an example of submission; panel debates whether they would bow to their husband

“I have an expectation that my girlfriend bows to me when I get home from the podcast”

QuoteRachel (Andrew's wife) joins the show remotely and gives nuanced defense of biblical submission based on trust-building over time, explaining why men sometimes can't explain decisions and why women need to trust their husbands

“sometimes men just have to be look this is what we're doing just trust me I'll handle it”

OtherJordan (Nala's 6'4" military vet husband) arrives on set to surprise Nala. Brian and Nala had been teasing his appearance all show.

“Jordan arrives on set. 6'4", Pacific Islander/African-American mix, military vet, TikTok content creator.”

ControversyAndrew immediately challenges Jordan about marrying an ex-OnlyFans creator and quizzes him on the Trinity. Jordan defends Nala and his faith calmly.

“I was just wondering what kind of guy you know marries a prostitute”

QuoteJordan explains how he met Nala: she came into his TikTok Live, threw him a gift; he eventually encouraged her faith journey not with emotional ties but through prayer

“we were literally just friends for like the majority of our relationship until we got married”

QuoteJordan reveals Nala was making $300k/month on OnlyFans when she gave it all up for God

“she was making 300K a month and she didn't even want that because at the end you know none of that's going to matter”

QuoteNora reveals her lower-back 'not yours' tattoo — got it to assert ownership of herself during a phase when men would say 'you're mine'

“it's a heart and in the heart it says not yours”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Status Round

Panel introduces themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian and Andrew introduce themselves. Relationship status round covers everyone from married Nala to perpetually single JY.

Standards & Pickiness in Dating

Discussion of what each panelist looks for in a partner: physical, personality, financial. Nora wants $500k+ minimum. Alanis controversially claims she wants a man making $5 million/year, sparking extended debate about realism vs. aspirations.

Alanis's $5M/Year Man Debate

Extended multi-hour debate about Alanis wanting a man who earns $5M/year. Andrew Wilson challenges the logic given she lives with parents, makes $22/hr, and has a trust fund she doesn't understand. Rachel (Andrew's wife) also weighs in remotely. Alanis gradually walks back to $500k-$1M by end.

Mandy's Sex Addiction Story

Mandy discusses her sex addiction from ages 16-18. Was on Grindr after getting banned from other apps for lying about age. Slept with up to 7 different people per week; maximum 3 in one day. Body count 50-60 max. Met current boyfriend on Grindr day she stopped. Boyfriend has 18-year age gap.

Nala's OnlyFans Past & Christian Conversion

Nala explains her OnlyFans persona was entirely clickbait including the 'cheating kink' content. She talks about her Christian conversion, selling her Lamborghini and designer goods, paying $300k+ in IRS taxes. Andrew Wilson confronts her repeatedly about the authenticity of her conversion.

Andrew vs Nala: Theology & Christianity Debate

Extended debate about Nala's Christian conversion, the nature of the Trinity (Andrew accuses her of historical heresy/Nestorianism for saying 'three parts' vs 'three persons'), whether she's authentically Christian, biblical submission, and whether converts can correct theology. Rachel (Andrew's wife) joins remotely to clarify submission. Nala's husband Jordan later defends her.

Body Count Discussion

Brian does a body count round: Nala (0/born-again), Nora (13, 3 in a day at her peak), Mandy (50-60 max, former sex addict, 3 in a day max), Vi (~8), JY (0/virgin), Alanis (didn't say), Natalie (0/virgin), Jessica (didn't say clearly).

Self-Rating Round (Looks 1-10)

Brian asks panel to rate their looks 1-10 (scale: 1=butt ugly, 7=pretty, 10=perfect). Alanis rates herself 10 (self-confidence). Natalie 8. Mandy 5-6. Vi 5. JY 8. Nora says all women are 10s. Brian gives his philosophy on inaccurate self-assessment leading to unrealistic partner standards. Blind vote by panel had results not disclosed on-air.

Abortion & Political Views

Brief segment on pro-life/pro-choice views. JY pro-life, Natalie pro-life, Alanis pro-choice (with nuance — kept her baby during difficult circumstances), Jessica pro-life, Mandy pro-choice. Brian reveals he would date 19-20yo Victoria's Secret model as a bit. Also: voting round — Nala voted Trump, Alanis voted Trump (surprise).

Submission & Biblical Gender Roles Debate

Andrew Wilson debates submission with JY (19), Jessica, Nala, and others. Andrew argues submission means full obedience even without explanation; women push back saying it requires communication and love. Andrew tries to show the logical contradiction in partial submission. JY admits she's 19 and inexperienced but holds ground. Jessica gives most traditionalist view. Rachel (Andrew's wife) calls in remotely and gives nuanced defense of submission based on trust-building over marriage.

Are These Women Feminists?

Andrew claims all the women except Jessica sound like feminists based on his charitable definition (movement toward egalitarianism, rejection of patriarchy). Panel pushes back. Mandy says women should submit more due to physical strength difference. Jessica admits she changed from feminist to conservative.

Why Brian Won't Get Married

Brian explains he doesn't believe in marriage because divorce is a massive financial loss for men. Panel — especially Natalie and Vi — push back and try to convince him to marry. Brief discussion on women doing 'wifey things' in relationships vs. marriage.

Nala's Husband Jordan Appears

Jordan (Nala's 6'4" military vet husband) comes on set near the end of the show. Brian and Andrew had teased this earlier. Jordan discusses how he met Nala on TikTok Live, prayed for her, encouraged her faith journey. Andrew immediately challenges him about marrying an ex-OnlyFans creator and quizzes him on Trinity. Jordan defends both Nala and his faith.

Roast Session & Final Notes

Brian goes through panelists' pre-submitted notes: Vi's Islam conversion, Natalie's date stories and ideal man requirements (thick/gym guy), Nora's 'not yours' lower-back tattoo, Alanis's emotionally abusive relationship with ex 'Pablo' and possible MS13 connection. TTS donation roast session follows. Show ends after ~8h45m.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasone in the chat Crucible if you can hear her to two in the chat if you guys can't hear her Crucible

Rachel (Andrew's wife)cuz uh is she bugged for for The Crucible oh she's back she is back came the patriarchy the patriarchy

Brian Atlasspech yes patriarchy wins patriarchy wait Rachel Rachel really quick um I don't know if you're listening I don't know if you're watching the show earlier

Brian AtlasI just want your kind of take on is he gonna say bowing

Brian Atlasno we we have a perfect 10 out of 10 here at the table Rachel who wants a 5 million a year

Brian Atlasman Rachel we need a woman's perspective here obviously us men you know we need to hear a woman's perspective on this Rachel you're did you hear that part of

Rachel (Andrew's wife)the show yeah yeah I did me what you think I feel like she kind of knows now that she's heard it out loud and had it challenged that that's probably not very realistic and the natural thing to do

Rachel (Andrew's wife)out of embarrassment is double down and be like well I Can Dream though and I'm not going to settle but I mean the truth is like you're probably passing up a lot of great dudes by having super

Alanisunrealistic expectations and that hurts you not the men so I think just like not being Devil's Advocate but I think I've R-rated myself that like it depends on

Alanisthe situation and knowing the person I know I have this un I've been saying I know it's unrealistic it's just a thing that because of what my past experience

Alanishappen I put myself was like oh I don't care and I realized I do care because of like the amount of times that again I've been used for like financially and

Alanisabused financially like by these men that 500k you know come on you know 500 I I'm very

Alanisflexible I think like I mean even 500k is good sorry good 500k would be really good I think I've like I've rated myself a lot that I said like yeah it just depends on the situation and I'm

Alanisflexible but that has been like something that I put on the top and I know it's like unrealistic and I've been saying that I know it's unrealistic but I think um it just puts in a sense that

Rachel (Andrew's wife)I just want better for myself yeah but it sounds to me like what you needed better was a guy with better character like if you're getting cheated on or the guy's a scumbag it wasn't a lack of money or you know any

Rachel (Andrew's wife)those other things you cited and it's like if you need uh to get over that relationship because it sounds almost like you're like if you can't meet impossibly high standards I'm not even going to look at you which you know

Rachel (Andrew's wife)basically takes you out of the running it's almost like you're trying to like unintentionally sabotage yourself by having wild expectations maybe I don't know but I think not all

Rachel (Andrew's wife)men are bad you're going to get a I had a bad one before I had two bad ones it happens you make M you pick the wrong guy and you go [ __ ] I picked the wrong guy and then you look at the things you

Rachel (Andrew's wife)picked that were bad you know now with hindsight you can go back and go oh gee you know there was maybe some things I missed there it was a character flaw maybe next time I won't do that but I don't think it has to do with the guy having money I think plus you're going

Rachel (Andrew's wife)to you were going to be a real estate and a surgeon and a a singer so you got like three careers going on plus you're going to be a stay-at-home mom but not submit but still have a career so you

Rachel (Andrew's wife)got a lot going and maybe just like make a list sorted out cuz it's not all I don't know how you're going to do all of that I think I'm also in a healing Journey it's been like a of on a journey

Brian Atlasyeah I'm in a healing Journey too for a long time and like look I I had you know

Brian AtlasI had some bad experiences with with women my age now I only date 19 and

Brian Atlas20-year-old Victoria Secret models I won't settle for less good for you and also

Brian Atlasum no that's it she was laughing can we get you down to 70k can we just get you down to 70k or we can just move on from that's good 70k

Nataliejust move kicking a dead horse sure you want to shake on it dead horses you want to shake on it no we don't need a shake but can we get you down to 70k oh my God I'm saying sure like I'm over the topic

Rachel (Andrew's wife)look at that that's a w it this was a war of attrition you guys have anything more for me before I go uh o we need an ooo just kidding just kidding just kidding

Brian Atlaswhat I'm kid I ask Andrew that too I ask Andrew that too Nala Nala was like Brian you got to ask this I never said that not he

Brian Atlasthrew you under the bus I look I asked I've asked andw I've asked Andrew for an oooo many times he doesn't do it I'm working just like how he's working on me

Nala Rayto become an Orthodox Christian I amter working on him I like this he's probably going to have more

Brian Atlassuccess on getting me but but you know it is what it is counter off thank you for I was kidding by the way Rachel um thank you for coming Rachel appreciate it good

Brian Atlasnight okay so we need to get your husband in we need to get your husband in I don't know if hold on can can you want to check your phone real quick all right guys going to check her phone we're going to do a couple I'm going to read this we have mjap POS thank you man

Brian Atlasfor the message Christianity equals relationship with God translation it's between me and God therefore you ought to not hold me accountable nor righteously judge me

Brian Atlasonce again covert feminist bastardizing the church from mjap POS 03 thank you man appreciate it that was beautiful

Brian Atlasthank you thank you very much thank you very much oh look at that he's back he's got hey that's a nice jacket you got there Andrew when you going to send me one of those is that a bomber jacket send me a jacket I'll send you

Brian AtlasI'll send you a crucible jacket there's only 10 there's only 10 in existence it was limited wow I want to I want a certificate of authenticity on that one Andrew you make sure okay that's cool uh

Brian Atlasokay let's get through all the notes we'll do two tweets we'll do row session here why don't we pull up row session yeah we're going to do row session at the end uh let's see here I don't know

Brian Atlashow to roast people uh where uh here let's do the tweets let's just react to the tweets IA I was listening to that I I did think it was ironic that Rachel also said that Nala was a fake Christian

Brian AtlasI just I just wanted to point that out I just thought that that was also equally hilarious go go ahead yeah all right make it bigger please make it bigger yeah okay this is a tweet uh truly the best advice I can give to

Brian Atlasother men when it comes to vetting a woman during the dating process is to drop a light slur on the first date casually sliping [ __ ] a couple times and how she see how she reacts that's

Brian Atlaswhat I do for friends me too yeah I do that what's your go-to [ __ ] really yeah W and some and sometimes like

Andrew WilsonLord I can't or sometimes Christian would use such language How could a

Andrew WilsonChristian ever use I'm I'm a simple woman you offend yeah I'm gra grab I'm clutching them

Andrew Wilsonright now it's it's horrific it's horrific it's really funny right though I did want to point out that it does seem that the rules are kind of selectively applied right kind of a

Andrew Wilsonlittle bit selectively applied when it comes to Andrew's a mean awful human being because he doesn't put up with any [ __ ] but I also say [ __ ] to people

Andrew Wilsonwhen they're being [ __ ] right it's like ah I think that's fine me personally I think that's fine but just might want to you know might want to everybody think about that that's all I'm saying everybody knows you never go

Andrew Wilsonfull [ __ ] never go full [ __ ] ever you don't call [ __ ] people retards you call your friends retards

Brian Atlaswhen they're acting [ __ ] it is true it is true true I I actually have had two band dat

Brian Atlasexperiences where one was back in 2012 oh where where I I said [ __ ] and she blew up the date over it mind in 2012 yeah in

Brian Atlas201 that's 2012 a long people said that like all the time then yeah and here's the thing here's the context right I like dropped something or spilled something not on not on her just like I don't know I spilled like a glass of

Brian Atlaswater on the table easy messed to clean up and I was just like um I'm such a [ __ ] and she got I wasn't calling her [ __ ] I wasn't talking poorly

Brian Atlasabout mentally [ __ ] people I was talking about myself I was self-deprecating and she dropped you she blew up the date but here's where I how'

Brian Atlasshe blow it up I kind of with a bomb she was a family no just she was like oh wow she was like this is like I can't even believe it was prew woke yeah it was like 2012 that was like the beginning of

Brian Atlaswokeness I feel like it was like the start it was okay social media is common but anyways so the she she totally loses it she's like whoa whoa it was we were otherwise

Brian Atlashaving a good time good banter totally loses it she total buzz kill and she's like wow that's really insensitive to people who are you know mentally

Brian Atlashandicapped or whatever the [ __ ] the term was I swear I swear and then and then here's the thing though and then I was like this is 2012 so mind you I mean that's the point though like that's what

Andrew Wilsonmakes it funny it's you're you're pointing at someone and being like you're just like that person over there who's like that's is that's the point just saying but so here's where I really dug myself a whole

Brian Atlasgranted I'm pretty sure it was already just it was done it was done but it was going great I'm pretty

Brian Atlassure had I not said that you guys saw my pictures when I was

Brian Atlasyounger it would have it would have come out came out eventually yes maybe you would have gotten married it was probably for the who knows but I'm I would have I would have I probably would

Brian Atlashave hit anyways but wow so so so so hold on here's what happened though this is 2012 so I'm like how can I explain to her remember it's 2012 how can I explain

Brian Atlasto her that I wasn't trying to be offensive to mentally challenge people I was just trying to like you know self-deprecate whatever so I was like I was like you know how it is you know

Brian Atlaswhen you're like you know like you call your you call your friend like the f word yeah I'm I can't repeat it because YouTube it's like when you call your guy

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)like oh you're such a yeah mind this is yes whoops what the [ __ ] why are you making that face bro who who says that it's it was 2012 bro

Brian AtlasAmerican culture 12 whole years ago okay it was 2012 you got to remember this is we talked differently we talked differently back then back my day back

Brian Atlasmy day let me tell you what I tell you hey oh [ __ ] what's up hey we got you know what here's what we're going to do we are

Brian Atlaslike World War II we're kicking the German I'm just here so could you uh could you stand next to the doll while we have what's What's Your

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)Name by the way Jordan while we have Jordan take your seat next to you could sit on the window you could just sit on the edge or you could have a good time with her do you want do you want to take

Brian Atlasmy spot and I stand behind you wait what I can she can no you stay there you you stay here so Nala you'll be there and then we'll have Jordan sit there all

Brian Atlasright guys get can we get some W's in the chat for for Jordan here can we get some all right oh damn how tall are you man 6'4 what's your background are you

Jordan (Nala's husband)part military no no I me like oh I'm like I'm like seven different things so yeah I'm uh like Pacific Islander yeah part partially that africanamerican yeah

Andrew WilsonSimone Hawaiian this guy's a unit careful Andrew careful Andrew careful this is the Joker I was the guy who was giving your wife a bunch of [ __ ] earlier really I

Andrew Wilsonwas just wondering what kind of guy you know marries a prostitute Andrew I mean she's not a prostitute well she was 6 months ago and she's correcting are Christians about

Andrew WilsonChristianity just wonder big religion boy woman who six months ago was guzzling J Andrew mons Andrew bro yeah you definitely sound like a Christian oh my God Andrew I'm still in the room

Nala RayAndrew I'm telling you facts I'm giving you facts it might they might upset you but these are facts what's funny is your facts are actual lies because 6 months ago is not the correct number it's about eight months ago is when I stopped but I

Nala Raystopped making content year ago I sto making content a year ago see look at here we got the we got the argumentative I had the time I had the

Andrew Wilsontimeline wrong I had the timeline wrong I'm just wondering though why it's okay for a brand new Christian to run around correcting everybody about Christianity

Jordan (Nala's husband)when they were prostitute 8 months ago sir I don't understand that I mean that that's a great question but I mean look at Saul in the Bible turned to Paul he converted a lot of people to and wrote half the Bible half the Bible yeah so

Andrew Wilsonhere's the thing he had a commission directly from Jesus Christ who appeared to him literally appeared to him so uh the thing is is like I don't I'm not I

Andrew Wilsonlike I don't want to beat up on anybody but I think that it's disgusting when when people who literally have moved from a life of Horrors into the

Andrew Wilsonsalvation of Christ used it as a shield from criticism and then to boot on top of the shield from criticism then begin correcting people as though they have the foundation to correct them they don't have the foundation for this I

Andrew Wilsonmean I've never heard a Christian talk like you before so are you sure you're even a Christian yeah well I mean what is a Christian to you do you believe in the Trinity too yes I believe in Jesus okay so can you explain the Trinity to

Jordan (Nala's husband)me father son Holy Spirit yeah what what is the Trinity though father son the Holy Spirit yeah is the trity mean though God the Father the Son and the

Andrew WilsonHoly Spirit who with us here on Earth yeah okaying very py about this is that like a hard thing for you to comprehend I'm asking an ontological question the state of being what is this

Andrew Wilsonyeah so it's fine that you're a trinitarian okay God and Jesus are in heaven the holy spirit is here on Earth thank you I frecking told you Andrew remember when I was discussing with your wife she said that the Trinity was

Jordan (Nala's husband)divided into Parts it is but they are one Parts three in one yeah three in one three in one yeah but you're making me lose brain cell man okay so let me let

Andrew Wilsonme TR it this way is Jesus Christ God they're three in one did you not hear the other answer yeah I I I got it but do you understand did the C cuz you wouldn't ask that question if you got it

Andrew Wilsonwell I'm I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to ask it you need to hear it Jesus Christ is God yes yes okay great and God is God

Andrew Wilsonyes okay and the Holy Spirit is God yes on the paper give me a second sign your life away they're stealing your soul they are

Mandyand your brain cells it's too late for us now it's actually a marriage contract me and Jordan you're married to all of us you're po it's a non denomination all right

Jordan (Nala's husband)what are you saying we're getting what is he saying Jordan oh my gosh will

Brian Atlasyou better you signed the cont and mine's real why do you even have that in case I got proposed to somebody strapping 64 I thought you

Brian Atlasdidn't believe always always stra literally being Su my bad s now we see why you were not getting married you know what I

Brian Atlasmean you know what I mean okay wait hold on me not married to a woman um so can you know what maybe I could just get through some of the notes really quick

Brian Atlasand then you guys can go at each other's throats cool Harper W har who's Harper oh V why do I have your this your your

Brian AtlasInstagram handle threw me off wait I don't have a um a personal Instagram right okay so you said uh you guess something unique could be that you don't really date every time you get into something with someone results in a

Vilong-term relationship it's been one long relationship after another yeah are these the new ones or the old old I don't recall are old I do new ones I I have those too probably but I'm just

Brian Atlasgoing through everything you said you're married to a Muslim I am okay uh you said you know converting in different religious beliefs can be an issue for people I know religion isn't usually the

Brian Atlasfocus of the podcast but maybe sharing the different challenges and changes in a relationship yeah wait are you Muslim I converted you converted to Islam yes

Viokay you used to be what nothing oh you were just IST no I I believed in God I just never you were

Viagnostic I never any uh religion uh the churches I went to were Evangelical churches

ViChristian Christian churches okay is that is that like a is that apostasy to like go from Christianity to is well they can marry

Viso a woman can't marry outside of the religion if she's Muslim but a man can as long as she is Christian or Jewish I believe yeah okay um you said in the

Brian Atlaspast you move to a different country for someone that's also something that could be talked about whether or not someone would do that just drop their whole lives or make some big change for someone I'm someone that believes in being selfless for those you love or really just have a selfless way of

Vithinking in general I do feel that there's a lack of that in M yeah so that just goes with me converting that was a selfless thing that I did and also in the past I've done some really big

Vigestures as well and I don't I feel like a lot of times women um don't do that anymore um if it comes to their to the

Viexpense of something like their career or you know whatnot so that's just um a topic that we could have probably talked

Brian Atlasabout just going around see if they anybody did that okay uh you said you regretted many things a few things such as burlesque dancing

Brian Atlasand then taking remotely provocative photos yeah so did you used to do o no I never had an you mean sending nudes to your boyfriend no never sent no no not

Vilike that so when I was younger yeah when I was younger um I was in performing arts and one of those things I joined a burles group and that in that in when I was doing that there

Viwere there would be like a photographer there so I would be on their page or if I had a photographer friend who took pictures like I would participate in that and those are the

Vithings I do regret doing because I'm not like that anymore I'm I mean I'm pretty modest now so I wish those are the things that I wish I could take back and you you regret them

Brian Atlasthough okay you said also in your notes convincing you Brian me uh that he should get married oh yeah that was like the new you said you want to make an argument

Brian Atlasyeah cuz I thought you were going to bring that up I justed to I just got re why am how am I going to get married I just take L's all the time I I thought you how are you going to have a son with

Vimy husband and make that make sense have everybody convince you sorry go ahead like you usually do so I was like prepared and ready you know I thought you wanted someone to bow

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)to you convince Brian to get married I do no girlfriend would do that only a married woman no girlfriends wait why don't you believe in marriage I don't I don't think I don't think like 20 different question here let's start with

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)yours go ahead I don't know I feel like a lot of girls do things that are wifey material instead they're not girlfriend like I think a lot of girlfriends do what should be a wife's thing to do and

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)I think a lot of like girls are like straying away from that and like doing the bare minimum for guys so if you want I don't know I don't know actually I think I'm like straying away out of this but if you want I think if you want a

Nala Raywoman to bow for you you have to put her mean on it first I mean I get the bow on the first date so I'm good on I'm good there who are you dating I'm good there what do you mean he said you get the bow on the first date who is

Nala Raydating you bro what do you mean who who what do you mean you you question that someone would date me no I'm asking like who are you dating haven't you been single for like ever what are you talking

Nala Rayabout what the [ __ ] I'm asking you who are you dating cuz you're like a girl would bow to me on like the first date who what kind of girl are you dating are you how would she submit to you on the first date when you're nothing but just

Nala Raya date she Asian yeah she could be Asian say there a couple Asian women in my day in my day cult I'm just asking like who who's bowing to you on the first date what do you mean I don't understand the

Brian Atlasquestion did you just say that though am I wrong I did but what do you mean you want you want you want her social security number what do you want I think she's asking what type of people are you dating that would bow to you I date

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)white women okay Asian women occasionally Latina women Latina Bo and that's it oh yeah Latina La what that's

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)crazy so do they do they see you and just

Brian Atlasgo show the video they P you show the I pull up the video I'm like boom check that out and immedately oh she's like you guys hold on well you guys will love

Brian Atlasthis I also have an expectation that she does my laundry on the first day too no no way wait so you take was first dat sure why not it's definitely not a laa

Nala Rayyeah she ain't doing your laundry the first day and bowing for you I want to talk is she AI is she an aiot bring them here is this a Tesla bot

Nala Rayokay n check this out right check this out right so okay you you that's called a prostitute

Brian Atlasoh so okay now so look but what I I here's again I've I've made this argument all the time guys and

Brian Atlasgirls will literally [ __ ] within 30 minutes of meeting a girl will be having your seed on and around her face within 30 minutes of have to do with doing your

Brian Atlaslaundry and bowing to you the first day I'm saying I'm saying girls will do that they'll do that they'll allow oh my eye I'm not disagreeing with you but what does girls certain girls not all girls

Brian Atlasnot all girls of course not these two or three or whatever the [ __ ] but a girl will like s the D I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just asking dude I'm so

Alanisconfused about Al Latina doing your laundry the first date if it was like a Latina doing I don't think the first date but a Latina would do the laundry if they're like in a really like strictly traditional home like I'm not

Brian Atlasdisagreeing with that but like first date this is what you do also on the first date I'll do a little leeway I'll it's already washed you just have to fold that's it it's like manipulation

Brian Atlasyou got to get so confused what do they owe you to do your laundry wait let me ask you a question Nala you're tell like you've never had these simpy dudes in your DMs

Nala RayI would do everything be with you of course I have but I've never done anything with them they're just simpy dudes in my DMs that I can love simps I love female simps for you sorry yes

Nala Raysorry okay okay I get it so these are simpy girls these isn't like a a strong will Latina who's just like bowing down to you no not

Brian Atlasanything you mean a 6 foot one 220 Milli 220 lbs of muscle Ste why are you descri my IDE there's a bit of fat in

Brian Atlasthere's I used to say 180 lbs of muscle steel and sex appeal but now it's 220 lbs with larden L

Natalie[ __ ] Len [ __ ] hi earner hi earner hi million so how do you rise up these girls in the first place like how do i r up they're s

Brian Atlashe doesn't even need to oh SS look I get look I get you guys underestimate me I'm telling you I am you guys for Brian

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)2024 but yes I have had I've been treated well by women in my we thator over there you're a virgin what are you [ __ ] talking about you never even had

Mandya boyfriend this my bad my bad guys my bad [ __ ] I'm sure she's had simps in her DMS though easy I had fans but that's

Brian Atlasnot it where's the ring look I look laundry first day how did we even get there you said that I was you mentioned the B you mentioned the B laundry okay let me bring it back let me move things forward because otherwise we be here

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)till [ __ ] 2 a I can't do that bro we'll be here till [ __ ] 2 it was convincing you to get married convincing me to get married then you guys had to jump in about I don't know what I think I think it was just like um you would want why how am I how am I going to get the bow without marriage yeah yeah yeah

Brian AtlasI said why don't I don't believe in marriage why don't you believe in marriage because it's a massive L for dudes why is a massive l the financial repercussions are significant in the event of

Nataliedivorce then why aren't you marrying someone that actually loves you because wait that actually loves me cuz like why would you get divorced is that actually a question for in your M why are you so worried about divorce if you're

Brian Atlascommitted to someone you think people that get married go into that specific marriage with the anticipation that they were eventually going to get divorced no but why are you worried about it if you're committed someone like them

Brian Atlasthey're committed to each other because women are fickle y'all change your minds men change their minds till death do us part don't mean nothing to y'all it don't mean nothing it's true 80%

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)divorces are initiated by women what are the men do find a Godly women a Godly there you go she'll believe in biblical he doesn't he doesn't take those views so it's like sure as a Christian we can

Brian Atlasgo forward and say so we're called to do that we're called to do that yeah but even Christian people get divorced do you think do you think Christianity is a antidote to divorce I think now look

Brian AtlasI'll be charitable I'll be charitable right so I think the rates of divorce among uh religious people is lower I'll

Brian Atlasgrant that but divorce still occurs and you so even Pious Christian women I mean we Andrew brought up Steven Crowder before this man I'll know the full

Brian Atlasdetails of their conflict or dilemma or whatever with Crowder he married they were both virgins I think when they met they're both Christian she's divorcing

Brian Atlasthe guy being Christian does not preclude you from divorce MH and also when you do do get divorced your faith

Brian Atlasyour values the church is not going to oversee the divorce the state is going to oversee the divorce and that's absolutely

Mandycatastrophic to men most of the time if I could add like um um I think I'm not sure I'm not Christian so I don't know correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it considered a sin in Christianity to

Nala Raydivorce think it would be there are exceptions like a man on a woman ask question question you're married to a guy you get married to him and there's

Brian Atlasno abuse there's no infidelity you've Fallen completely out of love with him and you're vaguely unhappy but there's no abuse you have you're there's no

Brian Atlasabuse there's no infidelity sorry but you're really unhappy but he treats you well enough again no no abuse no

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)infidelity is that pretext for divorce I don't I think divorce is just a cheap Escape I think there's things that can be worked out I think there's things that could be prayed about there's

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)Elders of church there's pastors that I'm like I this this situation has happened in my church before and it's been solved through speaking to pastors through speaking to family members through talking to each other

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)even like um this couple they spent a week apart and they came back and they talked and they had they had a whole bunch of issues but in the end they came back together and they found peace and

TTS/Donationsthey found and well met LOL paladins donated $200 two Brian just be like the Sim I mean genius sitting at the table and marry a millionaire prostitute so

Brian Atlasthat she can't take your money when she gets bored of the grift you spend $200 on that2 wait so uh L paladins thank you for the TTS go

Brian Atlasahead wait can you and we're back at the the point of like the marage here let me ask you then if a woman is just vaguely unhappy but there's no abuse and there's no

Brian Atlasinfidelity is that enough pretext for divorce no okay no but in her head and at least the how the

Brian Atlaslaws allow it to occur she could get a divorce right she you you acknowledge she could get a divorce right right and then the faith the Christian values go

Brian Atlasout the window when her secular lawyer because most people don't navigate a divorce without counsel and her secular attorney is going to say well you're entitled to XYZ and communal property

Brian Atlasand there was no prenup and now you get you know uh this much amount of alimony etc etc etc and all this kind of stuff

Brian Atlasmen fare so terribly when it comes to divorce and there's a bias in the court system uh so m i just what okay let me

Brian Atlashere let me tackle it from this perspective so when it comes to this marriage thing right uh I would like to hear from you guys uh I've already presented a bit of my thoughts on

Brian Atlasmarriage divorce mhm I actually think a better starting point though would be can you present to me compelling and convincing arguments why I or other men should get married as opposed to having

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)long-term monogamous relationships you know I think there's a whole bunch of advantages well first of all CH children is a big one you said you wanted you said you wanted seven sons I can have

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)children how outside of wedlock how do you know that why would that what reason would that woman have to stay with you yeah you didn't really answer the question though so I I know I'm giving I'm giving you like examples I'm like

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)I'm like saying okay so so with marriage marriage is kind of like people say they lock down right marriage like yeah you can divorce but I feel like if you you want kids right and I'm not saying this

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)is with every marriage I'm just saying like let's say in your case you want kids right sure and a woman who is not married to you what why does she have to stay with you if you're not married if you're not like what what are you what

Brian Atlasare you going to be giving to her outside of wedlock wait so our love and the continuity of our relationship is contingent upon marriage no I'm not saying that I'm saying she must not love me very much if it's contingent upon

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)this I'm not saying that I'm just saying that like um okay so you you want to have like a give me a second you want to have a married life just without the ring without without the the sign you know of the papers that's what you want

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)sure what's the argument though what are you fearful of I have I have an argument wait hold on hold on one more time a woman at a time one at a time many

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)Christian at the table Brian wait wa so so cuz a woman can leave you justy as easily as she can divorce you mhm don't you want and the thing is if she uh you know Ashley there's a whole bunch of

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)like ways that cuz I was about to say that like if she has a ring on her finger she has you she's loyal to you she's locked down but I guess married women do cheat so there's a lot of like

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)things that can be said cuz like for me I I I live a very Godly life I follow God I want God to be at the center of everything so in my mind I see marriage

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)as a way of joining joining a man and a woman just assume for the sake of argument that uh the person you're trying to convince uh is not doesn't believe

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)I so you're going to have to present secular arguments on this one what were what were argum I search and I could not figure one out hold on hold on I will grant that there

Brian Atlasare justifications for being married under Christian worldview uh Islam uh Judaism maybe there's other

Brian Atlasreligions out there that whatever it's part of the faith um but you haven't really presented I mean even for for Christian men there needs to still be compelling

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)reasons to do something yeah I'm like every time I try to think of something something honestly I'm not going to lie I try to think of something I could I could think of like a counterargument to it so I'm not going to lie I I just I've just always believed in marriage I don't

Brian Atlaseven know because you're saying well one of the things I think you're about to one of the arguments you're about to make was well okay wouldn't it solidify the relationship but the counterargument here is that's what I'm like thinking

Brian Atlascounter arent the counterargument here is there's actually now that we're married now that the state is potentially involved there's actually incentive for her to end the

Brian Atlasrelationship Financial incentive because she if she ends the like I could just make the argument she's more likely to stay with me because she has nothing to

Brian Atlasgain if she leaves me but if she's married to me she has a lot to gain by leaving me which is potential alimony splitting of community property so right

Nala Raybut if we're talking about to a Christian man like even in the Bible the God says it's good for a man to find a wife that it's a good thing but then also it's good to stay married because that keeps you from sexual sin what do

Brian Atlasyou mean I could be you could can you not have a monogamous relationship outside the marriage you absolutely can but what's the difference once you get married how's that going to keep that's your commitment you are committing to that person it's not just a piece of

Brian Atlaspaper I commit to you I will never choose like what's the difference I guess my question is what are you what are you afraid of besides losing I have an argument beses I have a secular argument I I'll come to you I'll answer

Brian Atlashis question uh so I mean what am I scared of so I mean first off uh I think that there are significant financial ramifications in the event of a divorce so I'm a high

Brian Atlasearner and if I were to marry a woman I would lose [ __ ] ton of money and then also in addition to that you know there's the legal expenses so you have to pay for an attorney if you

Brian Atlassignificantly out earn your partner you might have to pay for her attorney then you're paying two attorneys attorneys are expensive divorce tends to be very

Brian Atlaspricey so there's that component there too uh also I just I don't see like let's remove what I'm scared of I mean I've kind of already articulated there's

Brian Atlasthe financial ramifications I just don't see like a compelling reason to get married like what do I get from a

Mandymarriage that I don't get from a long-term monogamous girlfriend the only thing I can think of and like like I'm not like super PR marriage or anything like I'm not like telling you you should

Mandyget married to whoever you decide to be with but like um oh [ __ ] what was I going to say I literally just I think about it what what do you have okay this

Viis the only compelling argument I can think of and this in only this scenario and situation only mhm this girl that

Viyou met yeah she's B bming oh my God she's borderline dwarf she's either Asian or well I'm going to say she's Asian she's an Asian dwarf

Viwith large Leia okay wow so she bows for you yep she has zero body count okay but she's from Korea that was a thinking why but from Korea you're going to have to bring her over and the only way you can

Vido that is to sponsor her and you can't sponsor her unless you marry her and you're not going to give up the perfect woman sponsor yes she foreign naal hey

Jordan (Nala's husband)she can she can stay here for a couple months I send her back she comes she goes it's good you can't do that your your monetary value means more

Brian Atlasto you than love huh your monetary value means more to you than love so that's an interesting argument but I could just say I could just flip this back on her

Brian Atlasand say this arbitrary uh this arbitrary um uh what's agreement cuz if you're if you're that worried about it why wouldn't you just sign a prenup and get

Brian Atlasmarried facts well why don't you be prudent in the fact that you find a wife that doesn't even believe in I only do one thing at a time so okay when it comes to the prenups uh prenups frequently get thrown out they frequently get challenged in court that

Brian Atlasadds another uh layer of legal complexity also prenups my understanding of them I'm not an attorney they can only deal with assets pre-marriage but once you're married I my understanding

Brian Atlasis a prenup can't make any determinations as to what is acred during the course of the marriage so that comes down to community property so basically if I'm making say a million dollars a year and we're together for 10

Brian Atlasyears she's getting half of that Swiss banks no I mean that's that's a work around courts can you know they can Pierce the Veil and still get your money does this VI isn't this violating the

Andrew Wilsonentire principle that we're talking about anyway right so the the principle that we're talking about is what good is it for a second person to get married and the idea there is well it's fine to get married because you're bonded but

Andrew Wilsonyou got to hide all your money in different banks and then sign a pren up and this and that if you can accommodate all of the same exact commitments without the actual marriage then what's the point of the marriage for a secular

Nala Rayperson well for them like dude your partner can go and get married to somebody else whenever whenever she want what do you mean well yeah you know you're no longer committed like you're not in anything that's like actually

Jordan (Nala's husband)commitment you're just boyfriend and girlfriend there's no commitment she could leave you at any time any divor marriage she could also cheat that's also like the person you're

Jordan (Nala's husband)picking you're picking someone who's more of a simp rather than someone who actually will go through the hard things with you not just because she's a s but because she's a woman okay well mine was good though

Brian Atlasyours was good wait so okay we'll come back to that I don't I don't AR I'll come I'll give you my response but so what time is it when it comes to like the love thing

Brian Atlasright can I I I can just reverse the argument onto her if you loved me we there would be no need to get married so that same argument can be equally

Brian Atlasapplied to you know you're still fearful of something yeah I want to get divorce gr it's greater than it's greater than monetary value no but I can still have a

Andrew Wilsonrelationship with a woman absent marriage M but there's no full commitment in that there's nothing that's like all right this is my girlfriend I don't understand why why is there not like from a secular marriage

Jordan (Nala's husband)standpoint what's the commitment anyway for for marriage for a secular marriage I mean for all marriages till

TTS/Donationsdeath to his part yeah but well met LOL paladins donated $200 and2 maybe you should marry her so that she stops sucking D on camera Brian

Brian Atlasthat's what a real Christian man would do who what what huh h l paladins PA way too much money for that wait um just or

Andrew WilsonAndrew sorry uh Andrew you had something you get to win a race car yeah I'm just asking uh from a from a secutive perspective so this is non-religious they don't have to take the same vows of

Andrew Wilsonto Death to Your Part why do they need to do that they don't have any type of religious commitment going on here whatsoever the thing that makes the the bond of religious marriage important is because you're doing it under God so

Andrew Wilsonyou're making a vow in a Sacrament right it's a sacramental marriage but if you're a secularist you're not doing any of that so you don't make vows in a secular yeah you still make vows like you make vows in a secular relationship those vows why would you need to I've

Mandynever seen a marriage where you don't make vows that doesn't mean that you can't have a marriage where you don't it just means that they're not religious what how can you have a marriage don't have vow why would it be a requirement

Andrew Wilsonfor secularist to get married and say till death us part I don't get that why is that necessary for a sec secularist meaning non-religious a non-religious person getting married why do they need

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)to make such vows what like who has the authority to hold those people to those vows like when you're getting married CHR right you're you're dealing with somebody who has the authority to bind you as husband and wife right you're dealing with a

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)preacher you're dealing with whoever you have to bind that marriage but for a secularist that's just some random guy who went on the internet and got a certificate and says okay now I have the authority through the state to bind you

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)as a person and a person there's no still not making like I promise to take care of you in sickness and in Heth that's a vow would the Christian vows are the exact

Andrew Wilsonsame as a secular vow no they're not yes they are well how how is a secular vow binding through paper and word so so so you can tailor

Nala Raythe paper how you want right you absolutely can but the like the Baseline vow is the exact same as a Christian vow like I promise to take care of you in sickness and in health is that not the same the secular vow is more binding you have a courthouse wedding with zero vows

Nala Raywhatsoever it's not a requirement for a secular marriage that you vow anything I'm sure I know you can write your own whatever but most of the time have you ever been to a secular wedding whether or not like I promise to take care of you in sickness and health yeah yeah they say the same [ __ ] that's what I'm

Andrew Wilsonsaying they say the exact same stuff as a Christian wedding would no no but you're saying there is no vow depends it depends the point here though is that they don't need to there's nothing

Andrew Wilsonbinding about it there's a state contract so a verbal contract hang on hang on wait if secist decided to get married absent the state two two people

Andrew Wilsongot together and they're like we're just now married because we've decided we are and they're secularist why is that not binding Dam that's said that's as binding as a state

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)marriage which is as easy to break as a cell phone contract yes and Texas in Texas common law marriage that's all you have to do that's all you have to do is say I am married to you you are married to me you have to address that person as

JY / Jessica / Natalie (merged)your husband introduce him as your husband there's no there's no like um ceremony there's nothing it's just it's literally just like you're my husband now let's say there is no vow you're

Jordan (Nala's husband)still putting all of like everything on the line that's that's a vow in itself sure what yeah I but that's the point is like why would he have to put everything on would to do that why would he want to

Jordan (Nala's husband)subject because you're you're risking everything you have for that person that's the same thing with the vow you know through sickness and health you know if she got sick I could just leave her but I'm not going to do that then

Andrew Wilsonwhy how are you risking everything if you can exit the contract because you still lose half of everything no no no no there's an

Andrew Wilsonincentive a monetary incentive for women right they generally gain in a divorce not men which gives them incentive to break this contract they're not losing half of [ __ ] that's why a man needs to

Andrew Wilsonbe prudent in his search for a wife like prudent or or a man a secularist how could you convince a secularist man instead of being prudent to just say well I'm not going to get married by the state that's the ultimate Prudence would

Andrew Wilsonwell I guess in someone like Brian's mind there's literally no point to even try to convince him because he doesn't even care or doesn't believe in the same value married at all right what would be the point of a secularist getting married a non-religious person what

Jordan (Nala's husband)would actually be the point and principle here for them so I want I want to see your Viewpoint as a as another Christian what would you say to what this whole situation your question well which question are you are

Brian Atlasyou asking you convin do you have an argument to convince Brian from a secular standpoint me and Andre have Tangled on this so many times and I destroy him K I'm kid you cannot make

Andrew Wilsonyou cannot make a compelling argument to a non-religious person in modernity who's a man to get married you can't make a good argument for it they take all the risk for no particularly good

Andrew Wilsonreason from their worldview they have nothing they have nothing binding there's nothing binding the only reason that they would do it is essentially to sin for a woman I don't know why else they would do it like

Andrew Wilsonimagine if you will that you don't you didn't believe in God you're not a Christian right you think that all of that is nonsense you're a secularist you give me real quick uh sir a compelling

Andrew Wilsonreason you tell your friend a compelling reason why he should get married as two secularists two non-religious people what would be the reasoning you would

Vigive him to sponsor perf hang on let let him answer let him boy from Korea wait

Brian Atlashold on hold on uh if I can just add really quick I guess uh I I'm even of the opinion that even Christian men

Nala Rayshould take pause when it comes to Mar marage that's unbiblical except for the fact that you need to be prudent in your search for a Biblical wife yes he said

Brian Atlastake pause take pause in so far as as a Christian man I I don't actually have any religious or theological objections to marriage but here's I think one of the issues is that what a lot of people

Brian Atlasfail to realize whether you're conservative traditional Christian whatever the state Pro presides over your marriage not the biblical values so

Brian Atlaswhen the woman's unhappy she's going to go to the state not God mhm and then even if you're should going to yeah but even if your wife is not inclined to

Nala Rayscrew you over in the divorce maybe she's a good person whatever is the divorce attorney but that's why there's other things like you need to know that the wife you're going to marry is going to

Nala Rayseek help in friends for biblical friends and then counseling like you are willing to do counseling with your partner before you ever talk to a what you do about the fact that you have thousands upon thousands of

Andrew Wilsonself-identified Christians non- denominational and others not just non- denominational but many many self-identified Christians who when they

Andrew Wilsongo through the divorce process maybe 5 10 years down the road after marriage right the woman does default to lawyer

Andrew Wilsonand the state people do change over time it's it's almost impossible to determine what a person is going to do even if you think you really know them they change very quickly and if they're in that

Andrew Wilsonpredicament you don't exactly know what's going to happen so the idea that you can say to a secularist especially a non-religious person like Brian like really think about this give Brian Let's

Andrew WilsonPretend no you have no religion whatsoever you never found Jesus Christ you never found any of this look at Brian give him your most compelling reason why him as a man should get

Nala Raymarried Absol any of those justifications try actually quite difficult I actually want to see it so for me I feel like if I was a

Nala Raysecular person and if you were asking for me to produce with you and have kids with you I'd be like hell no bro you need to put a ring on my finger because that tells me that you are committed to

Brian Atlasme and you but I could just reverse this argument you could all you wanted but I'm he asked me for an argument on my side AR with me and you want to prove to me that you love me how do I know that

Nala Rayif I don't give you kids you're not going to just leave me you're not going to open up me up to this potential liability could say the same thing you you your stance is just out of fear fear

Andrew Wilsonliterally is like 85% of things that we fear about don't even happen it would be fear both ways no but isn't the divorce rate like the woman hang on hang on it's fear both ways cuz the woman is saying absent this commitment I don't want to

Andrew Wilsongive you this out of fear that I might get screwed over the guy what do fear stand for real it's a valid fear though that's

Vigood yeah both are valid fears wait so okay give me your thing again the it was brilliant yeah so she's Korean well I

Vijust world record lebia everything on your checklist that you can't that you couldn't fine here okay and she's from I don't know honestly

Brian Atlaslook I'll actually say this like the only scenario where where I would actually consider marriage I I've never even said this before but I'll actually make make it tonight is don't say it

Nala Raydon't say it you'll regret it whatever say it say it now say it wait and it's already late just say yo it's too late for this crap going to say it or you're

Andrew Wilsonnot whatever you're about to say play games saying it I promise wait why just don't do it do it I don't know because because you will just don't say it Whatever It Is

Andrew Wilsonstop being such a [ __ ] wait why not do it sorry use my language expose I don't know stop being such a [ __ ] but anyway Brian langage I wouldn't say it whatever it is oh he's

Brian Atlasbeen cousing all night bro are you call me a [ __ ] I call you a [ __ ] you go he doesn't match energy what the [ __ ] I never said that we hear your get married I would

Andrew Wilsonlove to hear wait Andrew why just tell me why I can't say it is it why you have free speech I lose my position because because you have the perfect secularist

Andrew Wilsonargument which takes so many secularists off the board and makes it so that we don't have to compete with these people in 100 [ __ ] years right you have the

Andrew Wilsonperfect argument to sway them away to stay the N scumbags that they are right so that we never have to compete with them and you're about to give them some reason some validation to sway you don't

Brian Atlasdo it oh okay I'm going don't want Brian to be right so the the perhaps the only scenario I see myself getting married this woman has to be fantastic to begin with a

Vibunch of cool stuff has to be and she needs you to cross the border she has an she has an so I feel I'll just say like if she's

Via virgin maybe I'll think about it you okay if she's a virgin maybe maybe shaking his head to be an x amount of you can't just divorce her as soon as

Vishe like lands because you you know Homeland Security that's a good idea I could get married have sex then divorce oh my goodness it no that's

Brian AtlasTerri traumatizing I'm joking um how do we get topic bro that is one scenario get back to notes let's go to

Brian Atlasnotes win for me not a win for you not a win for you look never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it it is when women break this marriage contract they're often rewarded

Brian Atlasyou can just break the contract and Deport her iful send her back to her country adist scenario is ridiculous scenario is ridiculous so um okay here we're going to move it on I'm going to try to get

Brian Atlasthrough all the notes quickly try to it is getting late so I do want to try to wrap up I'm trying to wrap up in the morning you guys you guys you guys were talking about freaking uh religion for like 3 hours okay yeah you could have

Brian Atlasstopped us an hour in hey no look I got to be give you guys time to talk okay move on no I want to finish your notes okay you said uh red flags oh no you was just name I was just like I already you

Brian Atlassaid what topics do you I just named the ones you guys talk about already I don't have anything specific okay I'll get through the rest of your notes you said another hot take is I don't think there's anything more anti-woman than the encouragement of delusional thoughts

Viand wanting women to be more sexual MH care to elaborate quickly yes just everything that we've talked about already I think it's if you're for women then you should be protecting them you

Vishould be uh honest with them and you shouldn't be encouraging their thirst traps and Lord have mercy we must stay focused Brothers we must stay focused

Brian Atlaswait what I don't know what okay go ahead yeahor so that am I repeating it no I get it I get it okay you said um that's

Brian Atlasit make modesty great again you said you see a lot of you see a lot or have personally known some couples where one person or both do single people Behavior activity and you just don't understand I

Vidon't because they're married but they either have uh like the husband has a girl best friend or the wife has a guy best friend or or the wife is posting provocative pictures and just dudes are

Vijust commenting on there and hitting the like button and then the husband's doing the same thing and they're just out out at bars um that other episode that you talked about with the Mormon wives and

Vithat chip Andale episode like it's just this this whole single Behavior activity women represent it's not for marriage and it I don't understand that yeah okay

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