She HIDES Being TRÂNS?! Single Mom DEMANDS Men Pay For Babysitter?! MlSANDRlST?! | Dating Talk 274

Date: 2025-12-22

Duration: 9h 27m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLauren (Healer)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Taran (Deadly P)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Isabella(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lauren (29, healer)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Latrice(guest)

SPEAKER_11Nyx(guest)

SPEAKER_12Lauren (24)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Miriam(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduced including trans woman and Saudi magician

Key MomentMiriam performs close-up card trick - first female magician on Whatever

Key MomentBrian reveals Taran is trans. Panel reacts.

Key MomentTaran's viral boat kiss + lie detector clip played

ControversyLauren-29 requires men pay babysitter ($60-150) for first date

Key MomentLauren's relationship price list displayed on screen

QuoteTaran says 'Country Texas' when asked to name a country

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

8 guests including Taran (trans woman) and Miriam (Saudi magician).

Taran Trans Reveal + Viral Videos

Brian reveals Taran is trans. Boat kiss video and lie detector played.

Lauren Single Mom Babysitter Requirement

Lauren requires men pay babysitter for first dates. Extended debate.

Lauren Price List

$50 per like on another girl, $100 per DM, $2000 for texting ex.

Self-Ratings

Lauren-29 rates herself 10. Miriam rates herself ~2.

Man vs Bear

Most choose bear. Brian draws racism parallel.

Bow Video

Brian shows ex bowing. Most debate submission.

Taran: 'Country Texas'

Taran says 'Country Texas' when asked to name a country.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> but it's not as much of a hate thing, and it's not as much of a big deal. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. There's a lot of chubby chasers. You can find somebody. You found you found people, right? No. >> Okay. Um, how about this? Uh, let's see.

Brian AtlasOkay. >> Men should pay on first dates. You say, Lauren, men should provide protect. Men should be shiverous. Husband should be willing to die protecting you. Uh, I personally, honestly, because I'm such a feminist,

Brian Atlas>> you can have it for as long as you want. >> I think the woman should take the bullet. >> But that's not what you asked. I would have said yes for both ends, >> even if she's really small. I think you use the >> woman. >> Excuse you.

Brian Atlas>> Sorry, [laughter] >> bro. We got Okay. So, anyways, if the you use the woman as a meat shield, like how tall are you? >> 5 foot.

Brian Atlas>> 5 foot. Yeah. If like home invasion and like we're in like a bickering married cup or whatever >> and you're using her as a shield. >> He's just going to pick her pick her [laughter] put her in front of you. >> Yeah. Like I'm a The guy's just shooting

Taran (Deadly P)bullets and I'm using As a female, you should have picked up the man and put him in front of you. You should have picked up the woman and put it in front of you. That has to be your choice. You better get in front of that bullet from your own choice. If I love you enough, I'm going to get in front of that bullet.

Taran (Deadly P)>> A trans person. >> It don't matter. If I love you, >> can can I Is it cool if like because you know transition? >> If I love you, >> you're going to do it. >> This is true because >> if you're using them as a shield, you don't love them. So, what are you even there for?

Brian Atlas>> Cuz it's like I was going to do it, but why are you what >> using me as a shield? I will put you on the street. >> Look, I'm thinking about our children. Like, if I have kids with her, then I

Taran (Deadly P)want to protect fatherless because I will be the one who murders you. >> Whoa. [laughter] >> Like, why would you use me as a shield? >> You know, for reasons. >> Sound like it sound like you got some

Taran (Deadly P)hate in there, >> dude. There's no hate. No, it's love. >> No, [laughter] if you love somebody, you're going to be the one who gets in front. It doesn't matter if you male or female. If you really love somebody, you're going to get in front of that bullet because you

Brian Atlaswant them to be safe. You want them to be the one that lives. >> Right now, >> you should insist on taking the bullet for them. >> Yes. >> I think the woman should sacrifice.

Brian Atlas>> We were talking about kings and queens in chess. If you lose the king, the game is over. >> I'm not a misogynist. >> You never >> Chill out, Isabella. >> Isn't the queen the most powerful piece though?

Brian Atlas>> The queen? Yes, exactly. Which is why she should sacrifice herself. In fact, there's a move called this queen sack. Queen sack. You sacrifice your queen to save the or whatever. I don't know what the [ __ ] you actually lonely. But

Brian Atlas>> I'm playing checkers. You [laughter] are playing the king though. You just whatever that means. >> Okay, really quick question for I don't know you, I guess. Um >> or the whole panel.

Brian AtlasImagine consider a scenario. A ship is sinking and only one functioning life preserver remains. A married couple face, I guess you in this situation, you

Brian Atlasand your husband faces the reality that it can save only one person. There's no loophole. There's no workaround. There's no additional options. One life preserver. One of you must die who should volunteer

Nyxto sacrifice themselves. >> Do we have kids in this scenario? >> Give me your answer for both. No kids. Yes, kids. >> No. No kids. Both of you just duke it out. Figure it out. I think it's situational. fight with the [laughter] >> No, don't literally duke it out. It's

Nyxliterally just like, "Okay, which of us wants to [ __ ] die?" >> Is the kid on the boat? >> No. >> Okay. >> Okay. The kid is like offshore safe already. >> Yes. It's just you and your husband on the boat. >> Okay. Then I think if we have kids, it's

Nyxlike literally whoever is more capable of taking care of our kids. >> W the man. >> Not [laughter] inherently. I don't think so. >> Yeah. That's not always the case. >> W the man >> most of the time.

Brian Atlas>> That is not always the case. >> You can milk. I think can men produce milk? >> No. >> I I think I think they said yes. >> I mean, can them >> Were you raised on male breast milk? >> Yeah.

Nyx>> Does that explain? >> Yeah. >> What explain? [clears throat] [laughter] >> Um I don't know. I'm >> What does it explain? >> I can't. >> He doesn't know.

Brian Atlas>> Uh you know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is that your final answer? Uh, so >> it's the autism, guys. It's the autism.

Brian Atlas>> So, anyways, uh, okay. I look, I don't know. I Well, okay. Getting into this, Lauren, you do say the man should take the boat. What's your answer to the sinking ship one? >> Um, I don't >> She was zoned out.

Lauren (29, healer)>> Yeah. I don't know. No, cuz I think like if I was like genuinely like in love with someone, like I would have survivors guilt. So, I think we would just die together. >> Oh my god. [laughter] Wait, you'd both just die? >> What about the kids?

Lauren (29, healer)time. >> Yes. Because like because if I was in love with them like I couldn't like you know >> kill the kids too while we're at it, bro. >> Like she literally said we going I'm going to do all of us together.

Brian Atlas>> We're sinking together. >> Lauren, uh so you say in terms of last name, do you want to get married again? I >> I said whoever has the coolest last name. Oh, >> let's say Well, let's say the guy has a really bad last name.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. No, >> I I date traditional >> with his last name duty. And I was like, there's [clears throat] no way >> what's wrong with that. That's fine. >> But mine is La Palia. It's like hard. >> Men should pay for your babysitter when

Brian Atlasyou go on the first date. Men should pay for dates. Men should provide. Men should protect. Men should be chivalous. Husband should be willing to die protecting you. >> But if you draw the line, if he has a bad last name, you're not taking the

Lauren (29, healer)last name in marriage. [laughter] You don't deserve chivalry. You don't deserve >> her last name, then I'll I'll consider it. >> You don't deserve chivalry. >> I did cool last names. >> She belongs to the streets. [laughter] >> Okay. >> Can I name my son a different last name

Brian Atlasthan me? >> Uh let's see here. Um

Brian Atlaswait, hold on one uh body count. Going around the table. What's your body count? Starting. Who's going to uh who wants to start? Who's

Nyxdown to start? Okay, go ahead. >> Nine. >> Going this way. >> Three. >> Going this way. >> Three. >> Going this way. >> I'm opting out. >> Range 30. >> Range. >> 70.

Nyx>> Whatever you want it to be. It's okay. >> Whatever I want it to be. >> Yeah. >> 67. You could just go back to the last podcast. >> Did you Did you say it on the last show? >> Did I? >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Did you? Oh, come on then. You already said it. be a good sport. >> Then you guys can find that information if you so please. >> You already said it, homeg girl. Okay, just because she did that, whoever's if my editor is watching this,

Brian AtlasI want you to go back. We already edited that episode. Go find it. Go cut a clip that's like 3 minutes long of her just repeating her body count over and over again. >> You You want me to make up your body

Brian Atlascount? >> Uh, six, seven, >> whatever. You know, honestly, I'll be your last body count. Huh? >> So, whatever the number is after me, I'm the last.

Nyx>> Oh. >> Oh.

Brian Atlas>> I'm avoiding looking at you right now. I don't. >> Anyways, moving on. What about you? >> Body count. >> I'm not going to give y'all an exact number. >> Give us the girl number. How many girls have you just How many of these hood rats have you just ran through?

Brian Atlas>> Hood rats? >> Well, okay. You [ __ ] some classy women, too. How about that? >> Like, let's not Okay, fine. I'll be fair. >> I ain't [ __ ] with no hood rats. >> You [ __ ] some bougie chicks. You [ __ ] some hood rats. You [ __ ] Look, it's okay. We all sl We all You know

Taran (Deadly P)>> who's we? >> You. >> I would say for women it would be I would say like

Taran (Deadly P)>> Is this what you're singing like? >> Six. >> Six women. How many men? Uh, the range is four to five. >> Okay. What about you, Isabella? Say, say it. >> Two.

Miriam>> What about you, Lauren? >> Um, 15. >> 15. Okay. What about you? >> Um, I said I'm not going to answer private question. >> Thank you. >> Do you want to do a range? >> Uh, no. Because it will have the clip

Brian Atlasthat says, "All right, whatever. It doesn't matter. I mean, multiply by three." So, >> that's fine. Uh, okay. I There's something about body count. No, we did body count. We did Nick, are we were there's another video

Brian Atlasor something? >> All you did was ask us about it. You didn't ask us about the question on the paper. >> Oh, well, I'll move ahead for the sake of time, but uh Nick, there's a video. Let's pull that up. A woman's career

Brian Atlasmoney status does not make her more attractive to men. Isabella, you Oh, makes her more attract a woman's Okay, we'll touch on that really quick. A woman's career money

Brian Atlasstatus makes her more attractive to men. Isabella, you agree. Taran, you agree. Nyx, you agree. Uh,

Isabella>> I think it depends on why you love. >> Uh, I mean, I'll tell you guys this. Men don't really care about your career. >> But don't you want to be asked out on dates and don't you want to have dates paid for? Like, I don't get your logic

Brian Atlasthere. And you literally said earlier if she had 10 billion bucks, you'd [ __ ] >> Yeah, that would be the difference here is that it has really no impact. That that would be like a

Brian Atlas>> a lifealtering thing. But in terms of like a sort of attraction that men feel like, yeah, that'd be nice for my life and that would

Brian Atlas>> isn't that attractive? Well, I think in this like crazy hypothetical that I I described, um I don't realistically ever expect that to happen, but I think

Brian Atlasrealistically women can and do encounter men who have a provider mindset and who are perfectly like down, assuming they make the appropriate appropriate amount

Brian Atlasof money to be like, "Hey, listen. I'm fine with you staying at home. I want to um I want to take care of everything." That's the kind of dynamic I'm fine with in my relationship. I'm making good

Brian Atlasmoney. You don't have to work. I'm going to take care of everything. Take care of the rent. Take care of the food. Well, if we're living together, I'll take care take care of everything, right? Uh and when we have kids, you don't have to

Brian Atlaswork. You can take care of the kids. And that's the dynamic that I I'm fine having. Very very few women are okay like with the reverse dynamic where

Brian Atlasthey're the ones doing that. So, I guess for example, for there are guys who might find that attractive or care or whatever. I think most men though, uh, they don't really care. They're going to primarily care about your personality

Brian Atlasand they're going to not well, they're going to care about your physical appearance and they're going to care about your personality. Your job, your status, your money, your education, that's secondary. If you're pleasant and you're good-looking, honestly, that's

Miriamthat's really it. >> That's really it. I live in Silicon Valley and like I had a lot of um first states who like [clears throat] literally asked me um they were saying that they require if they want to have

Brian Atlasbabies. >> Are you are you a little ups you you you want to go to the bathroom? Is that you you're waiting to show me the the kaka? Is is that what's you're you seem a little pouty. So anyways, continue. [snorts]

Miriam>> All right. So, as I was saying, >> okay. Um, I did have multiple dates where the man on a first date, they were saying that if you want to have babies, we both have to make at least 150 or

Brian Atlas200. >> Oh, you're dating like lefty computer programmers in [ __ ] >> San Francisco. Silicon Valley is like super >> super lib. >> Well, look a lot of these I mean 150k if

Brian Atlashe's making 150k I mean that's good money but >> not I mean in Silicon Valley that's not I don't know if you can uh in Silicon Valley I don't know if you can is anybody here from like SF San

Brian AtlasFrancisco? I know San Francisco's median is about 100,000. >> I don't know if like 150k in SF or Silicon Valley you can have like raise a >> Yeah, but they are saying we both have

Brian Atlasto make that much >> like they are requiring me to not only have a job but also have that minimum. >> But so that's a economic and financial reality in terms of a a man's

Brian Atlasattraction. [gasps] I don't think that that's like a guy's not going to be more maybe that's a a consideration for like okay realistically like the economy is

Brian Atlas[ __ ] dog [ __ ] it's [ __ ] whatever two you need two incomes for to to you know have a household have family have kids you need two incomes but in terms of a man being more attracted to a woman

Brian Atlasbecause of her career I don't think that's the case I think it's purely like a financial economic reality whereas I do think it's the case that women will have more attraction for a guy regardless of her own financial

Brian Atlasstanding. A woman will have more attraction for a guy based off of status, based off of uh money, based off of his career. Like a woman will feel will have more attraction even beyond

Brian Atlasthe financial reality if she's dealing with a doctor versus dealing with a guy who works at Chick-fil-A. For me, there's actually I think there's benefits. Is it the estrogen or whatever you're

Brian Atlastaking? the the [ __ ] It knocks you out when you're taking the the the >> waiting for you. >> You're waiting for me. >> Yeah. >> To to go to the bathroom, >> man. Last time we went to the bathroom, by the way. I didn't go in the bathroom.

Brian Atlas>> I stood outside the bathroom and you just flicked me off. Very rude. I'm very upset. You're going to have to >> go get some cash or something. >> Okay. At least you got to repay him. You got rid of the daddy. That's an improvement.

Brian Atlas>> So, I I think you're agreeing with me. You're just wording it differently. We're in different level of the spectrum. You see, [laughter] >> I don't know. Does anybody dispute this at all? That I I personally think >> career-wise, you're like more

Isabellaestablished than the average man. I'd say you make I mean, I'd say you're well off. >> Yeah. No, I'm doing well. >> Not many not a lot of men. Not all men are. >> Sure. >> And they will literally stop talking to

Brian Atlasher if she doesn't reach this quota of money they want. >> So, >> so that's like completely cutting off attraction altogether. >> I Yes, I agree with you that. Yeah. if a guy's like, "Look, I need to date a

Brian Atlaswoman who's making this much money." But I don't think the the reason for that is because of a an assessment of attractiveness.

Brian AtlasI think that's just like a pragmatic economic and financial thing. Whereas for women, I do think it's the case when a woman sees a successful guy, a wealthy

Brian Atlasguy, a guy with status, that triggers attraction. Not maybe not all women especially I think young women don't care that much about money generally. >> I think older women don't care.

Brian Atlas>> Well I think when women get into their mid20s late 20s they start caring about different things. I think when you're you're a 19-year-old girl in college you probably just think is he hot? Is he

Brian Atlasfun? Do I like him? That's it. Whatever. And people in college aren't making money. So it's like most college girls aren't going to be like oh he does make six figures. No. They're not going to they're not thinking like that. it's not

Brian Atlasa consideration. But if we're talking about like a larger uh portion of the dating pool, which is I want to say like

Brian Atlas22 23 to uh 35. Yeah. I think then okay, the guy's status, his career, his money plays a bigger factor. But like me, to give you my own perspective, and maybe

Brian Atlasyou think, well, Brian, that's just you. Other men are different. Maybe you can ask your male Well, I don't know. A lot of male friends just lie about this [ __ ] But [sighs] I will date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A.

Brian AtlasI probably make I I probably 3x what she makes in a year. I make it in the month. I don't care. Don't care.

Brian Atlas>> Um it it's not a consideration. I'll date a girl who works at Chick-fil-A. >> I'll date a a girl who doesn't have a job. She's in college. Whatever doesn't

Brian Atlasdon't care. I'll date her. It doesn't matter. Is she a good person? Do I like her shared values? Is she attractive? Money? Don't care.

Brian Atlas>> It'd be nice if she's not like has 100k of debt, which becomes a liability for me. >> But even then, that's not even necessarily a deal breakaker. If she's the perfect woman and she has 100k of

Brian Atlasdebt, I'm taking I'm >> excellent. That's >> she's the perfect. So, I have to pay $100,000 for the per perfect woman instant. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Instantly. Instantly, I do it. I >> feel like you'd buy a woman, bro. Like, you just wanted her to bow to you. Bring the sex robot. No. >> Oh my god.

Brian Atlas>> Bring the AI girlfriend robot. Let's [ __ ] do it. Um, no. I think uh I mean I'm I'm joking a bit there obviously like there's there's a humanity that's important to know

Brian Atlas>> I was about to say I have two of them over there by you know utilizing them. Well, they're not robots, you know. They're just lifeless. >> Okay, >> Zach. [laughter] >> I was going to make a joke, but never mind. Um,

Brian Atlas>> and I'm scared. >> I'm scared, too, but >> about the AI robots or >> No, about the joke. >> Whatever joke you want. >> It wasn't going to be that bad. Um, okay. I think we're pretty much done with the questionnaire. We have some a

Brian Atlasfew more pre-show notes. We got to get to the video. Yeah, we'll do. Lauren needs a bit of attention, so we're going to give her a bit of attention infusion.

Lauren (29, healer)>> Attention. >> Lauren scooted into the table. >> Okay, >> play it. >> You guys are dating in order to end up

Lauren (29, healer)being with a guy who won't pay the bill. But let me tell you guys what I do in order to make sure that I only hang out with guys that will absolutely pay the bill and pay for the sitter because I also ask like I'll talk to them for a little bit but it's like hey if you want

Lauren (29, healer)to go out with me and you want me to go out in the town at like at all like you have to pay for the sitter because they don't want to pay for the sitter then I don't even want to leave my house anyway and what if I pay to go on this date and they suck and then I just lose money to

Lauren (29, healer)hang out with a guy. Like it just doesn't make sense. I never want to spend any of my money in order to hang out with a guy. And a true man who like values you and the connection and what energy it takes for women in the dating process will absolutely pay for the

Lauren (29, healer)sitter. So all the guys that I date pay for the sitter. And automatically once we get that conversation out of the way, well then I already know that I'm only messing around with people that already value me as a mother, value my time as a woman, and who are in that providing

Lauren (29, healer)energy. And if they're not in that providing energy, then I can't waste my time and my energy getting to know them because I have limited time as it is as being a mother. And I need someone who not only respects me as a mother, but respects that I have a child. And for me

Lauren (29, healer)personally, just because I don't co-parent, whoever comes into my life next is essentially going to be my son's father. And so, um, I'm not going to date a guy who is going to see my son as a stepson and push him aside and only

Lauren (29, healer)care about me. like he needs to care about me and my son just as equally because he is the extension of myself. He is my entire world. So, I'm not going

Lauren (29, healer)to ever be with someone who cannot see that and love that about me and who respects that. And that's how I stay away from dusty crusty men. And if you don't have a kid, you don't want to be with dusty crusty men. Well, here's the

Lauren (29, healer)thing. Here are some like little um Easter eggs in the beginning process how you would know if you was a good guy or a bad guy and a guy who's going to waste your time or guys who's going to pay for the dinner and respects you as a woman. Usually high quality quality men there.

Brian AtlasWe we get the idea. Guys, we're going to lower the TTS as we kind of uh wind down the show here pretty soon. $69 TTS if you want to get a final message in or you want to get a roast in, you want to roast me, you want to call me a fatty,

Brian Atlasyou want to make a comment about Saudi Arabia, you want to Latrice is pretty cool. I don't know. Um, blue eyes over there. Um, something about trans people. Something about

Brian Atlas>> um, >> what you just >> you want to I don't know. You the the her I don't know. I'm I'm okay. You want to you want to you want to roast somebody? $69 TTS. >> Can you make it 67?

Brian Atlas>> Uh, next time you come on the podcast, I promise you I'll make it 67. >> Pinky promise. >> Uh, pinky promise. Garrett, it will be 67. But but with conditions, you have to

Nyxhit one bow and you have to reveal your body count. >> W [laughter] [ __ ] Guys, >> [ __ ] >> Guys, is it is it funny enough for me to do it? >> I think it's funny enough. I definitely

Brian Atlasthink it's funny enough. >> Is it worth it? I I get your viewers $2 off to >> I think that's fair. I think that's a fair trade-off. All right. $69 TTS, guys, if you want to get in. $69 TTS.

Brian AtlasUh, okay. I had a question for you. Your uh ex or whatever, does he pay you child support? >> I don't want to speak of my son's father. >> Well, I mean, you don't >> Yeah. No, no, I just think it's for my

Brian Atlasson, you know, so I don't want to go there. >> I won't ask you any other questions, but so I I won't probe further, but to be

Lauren (29, healer)clear, even just that question don't want to answer. >> That's fine. That's totally fine if you don't want to answer that. just I think about when my son gets older and he sees like anything that I do. I just want to respect

Brian Atlas>> his privacy with his >> I don't totally fully understand, but I mean >> she's not going to answer. Next question. >> Hey, relax. I'm I'm not going to press

Brian Atlasit too much, but it seems like a pretty I don't fully understand. Seems like a pretty benign. >> She's thinking about the child like >> No, but I'm not asking her to like do talk [ __ ] about her. >> No, it's not the dad can provide. Yeah.

Taran (Deadly P)>> And that could be something that the kid like doesn't like or makes him not like the father. Like she's thinking about if her kid finds the video later on, >> not about it's not about [ __ ] talking. >> Why do you need to know this information

Brian Atlasanyways? >> It's a It's within It's within the purview. It's within Hold on. Child support is definitely within the purview of a dating podcast. >> Sure. >> Um >> wait, question though. um on your social

Brian Atlasmedia. >> So, you do post about an abusive ex? >> Yes. >> Is that the same person who's the father of your children? >> I'm not going to call. >> But hold on. I'm confused. You make Tik Tok videos. Wait, wait, hold on. You

Brian Atlasmake Look, look. I think this is fair. Okay. No, it is. >> You make Tik Tok videos talking about a abuse of X. >> I'm not asking you to talk about the abuse. I'm not asking you to say anything negative about him. Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> I'm just asking a pretty basic, I guess, biographical question. >> Yeah. >> If you're comfortable saying that your ex was abusive, >> I think you revealing if he does or

Brian Atlasdoesn't pay child support, I can't see how that would amount to allegation like comparatively how that could be. Okay, I'm fine calling my ex an abuser, but I

Taran (Deadly P)refuse to disclose the child support. >> I have more than one ex. But no, the the the you have one child though, >> but she has multiple exes. She's only

Brian Atlastalking about ax like you just said. She never says the child of the father of her child. >> Wait, what? >> She never said that. >> No, I asked her. I asked her. She makes

Brian Atlasvideos online. So, it's not like I'm this I'm not, you know, this is private information. On your TikTok, you talk about having an abusive ex being in an abusive relationship. That's terrible.

Brian AtlasI'm sorry that happened. >> Yeah. But I guess my confusion is well I didn't I ask if so you have the the father of your kid that's the one who you talk about who's abusive. Am I

Lauren (29, healer)correct? >> So I don't want to say anything that could hurt my son one day. you have to I can

Lauren (29, healer)be open on my social media and I feel like I've made some mistakes in the past with how um like certain topics that I brought up, but I would like to keep that part, you know.

Brian Atlas>> But okay, I understand. My confusion though is >> I'm asking about child support >> on your TikTok. You have videos I

Brian Atlasbelieve. I mean, you're I you're kind of refusing to acknowledge whether the the the dad is the one that you're talking about who's abusive. Um, my

Brian Atlasunderstanding is it is the case that that's the one who you claim and like I don't memorize all your videos, but I'm pretty sure the abusive ex is the father. >> Maybe. >> I don't know why you're being koi. It's

Nyxlike you like >> she explain why she's being koi. I'm not being >> she has Tik Tok. I don't understand. Okay. So, if you care so much, go find her Tik Toks where you talked about it. Like, it's really she doesn't want to talk about it right now. No, guys, I

Lauren (29, healer)would prefer this is my son we're talking about. So, can we take a moment and put a pen in this conversation and talk about something else? >> She works to heal traumas, not talk about her personal information. She doesn't doesn't want to. Next time,

Lauren (29, healer)>> but I think if Hold on. >> And also, this isn't my podcast, so like I can't and it's my it's my Instagram, so I can edit certain things. and I just don't want to get into this topic that could possibly hurt my son. >> Okay. But look, the reason I'm kind of

Brian Atlaspushing back on this, the whole night you've been like a bit evasive and not You've participated in some things, but you've also been like, "Nah, I don't want to talk about I don't want to talk about participate though. >> I know. I know. I know. >> I did

Brian Atlas>> to a degree, but there were some things you didn't want to weigh in on." And if if I was just like blindsiding you and like you you didn't have a Tik Tok, you didn't have a public, you have hundreds

Brian Atlasof thousands of followers, I believe 100,000 followers on t 100k on Tik Tok or something. >> You have Tik Toks talking about this. I I don't want to get into the abuse. I don't want to get I don't even want to get anywhere near there. I don't want to

Brian Atlastouch that. >> I'm just asking if the if the guy pays you child support. That's it. That's it. I don't think that's crazy. >> Mhm. It's not crazy, but she's also not crazy for not wanting to talk about it. So, that's >> But, but how about like, okay, here's

Brian Atlashere's how I'm viewing it. Here's how I'm viewing it. Um, let's say I had a a

Brian Atlasvideo online where I was I don't know. I was saying, "Oh, um, man, this one time,

Brian Atlasuh, you know, I was I had really bad food poisoning and I was barfing and and I, you know, and, uh, >> you have to look up legally, like am I don't even know if I'm illegally allowed

Brian Atlasto speak on that." Like, see, I don't want to get into a legal case. So, this is why I'm saying out of protection. >> Okay, but just to finish my point, um, I had this video where I was like, "Oh my god, I had food poisoning and blah." I

Brian Atlasgot into details and then somebody asked me, "Oh, Brian, do you like pepperoni on your pizza?" And I was like, "I'm not comfortable.

Brian AtlasI feel like the question of I'm I'm failing to see parse how asking if someone's being paid child support." I don't know. Like that seem that's where

Brian Atlasyou draw the line. But you have videos of you talking about your abusive ex, but I just asked about child support. Anyway, whatever. I'm not going to push it, but I'm just trying to explain myself. Your hypothetical isn't hypothetical. It's not >> You're what? >> It's not Your hypothetical is just not

Taran (Deadly P)>> It makes It's >> It's not lining up. >> It's clocking. >> It's not parallel. It's not comparable in my >> It does make sense to be honest. >> I mean, think about it this way. Like my mom didn't want to tell me about the child. >> Wait, here. I'll make it. Hold on really

Brian Atlasquick. I'll make it super simple. You say the hypothetical isn't parsing. >> Yeah. >> I think if you're willing to be so How about this? >> I think it's weird. I think it's weird. >> No, no. How about this? How about this?

Brian Atlasuh a woman who's a sex worker. She has she's shown her [ __ ] She's >> also body count. >> No, no, no, no. Hold on. She's shown her [ __ ] She's shown her titties. She's shown her ass. She's getting [ __ ] on

Brian Atlascamera. But then somebody's like, "Oh, um, can you show me your elbow? Oh my god, how dare you want to see my elbow?" It's like, you've already

Miriam>> So what? I'm move on. I'm move on. I'm fine. >> Does that make sense? I don't know. >> Uh well, I I guess you given different examples and that's why it doesn't make

Nyxsense, but um to to me the way I see it. >> And remember 5 minutes ago when she asked if we could stop talking about this and we're still talking about this, >> he doesn't give a [ __ ] >> Exactly. >> Well, hold on. If you've been invited,

Taran (Deadly P)>> if he's not thinking about it from the kid's point of view, like if this kid finds us later on, it's like that's what she's just trying to protect her from him from. Like let's say like literally that's just like a kid. >> And remember when she said stop talking

Miriamabout it. >> Yeah. What if Yes. What if the kid finds all her Tik Tok videos of her saying how many men have abused? >> She never says that that's your fault. >> Correct. But the remember when she said

Miriamstop talking about >> the child wouldn't know which ex she's talking about. And if she if he asked her and she refused to say then he would just assume it's that one.

Brian Atlas>> You see what I'm saying? Yeah, he won't know that. >> So, >> I look, it's an interest. I'm not going to press a whatever it it's. It's an interesting hill to die on or whatever.

SPEAKER_00It's kind of ridiculous. Here we have a chat here. >> Lulu donated $69. S1 has how to stay single forever energy

Brian Atlasunless she counts situationships as legitimate relationships. >> Okay. Uh, Lulu, thank you for your message. Appreciate it. Uh, all right, we'll finish up. Was there another react, Nick, or did we do all the

SPEAKER_00reacts? >> I think we did all the reacts. >> All right, >> brother donated $69. Camille L, you look tired, girl. >> Oh, I'm not a girl. I'm just kidding.

Brian Atlas[laughter] >> Okay, we're going to go to this Lauren. Lauren, >> this >> uh your ex stalked you. Is that the older guy? Yes. >> Okay. So, he's act he's stalking you. >> Yeah. I I kind of thought about it and

Lauren (24)like I feel like I shouldn't have brought that up because it is like an active thing that I'm going through. >> Men for like legal reasons. >> Okay, that's fine. >> He doesn't follow me. >> Why does it seem like in today's dating

Brian Atlasworld men hate women and women hate men? I don't know. You should ask her. >> Yeah. >> Why do you hate men? >> I don't. >> Oh, okay. White people. Sorry. You hate white people. My bad. >> Uh let's see. in uh you said in modern

Brian Atlasdating you feel like women want too much for men and men don't know how to treat women relationships or partnerships you feel many people fail to see you know I was thinking about this I think uh I

Brian Atlasthink we teach boys and men how to treat women we teach women how to expect to be treated >> however we do not teach girls and women how to treat men and we do not teach men

Taran (Deadly P)how to expect to be treated >> I think that's the case >> also don't treat men to like respect themselves. >> It's true. >> Uh, sure. Yeah. >> Like when it comes to like your

Taran (Deadly P)emotions, like those are valid, but some men think it's not manly to cry. It's not manly to show your emotions. >> Okay. Sure. Uh, I just don't think women are

Brian Atlasholding up their end of the deal. It's like, okay, you want chivalry, you want men to pay for dates, you want traditional treatment, but you're a modern woman. I don't know. I think traditional men

Brian Atlasshould be with traditional women. They should treat each other traditionally. I think women want to reject their traditional expectations and they want to maintain the benefits of traditional treatment, receptive traditional

Brian Atlastreatment from men. You want the benefits. It's great. Oh, wouldn't it be wonderful? You don't have to pay for dates. That's great. But I'm a sex worker. I'm a sex worker. I'm a woman who's a sex worker. Men should

Miriamstill pay for dates. I [ __ ] dudes on camera. Men should pay for dates. >> Sorry. Just >> Why are you making the argument when none of the people at the table are like I I get I get the point, but >> yes, I know none of none of you are sex

Brian Atlasworkers. Okay, how about this? Uh, anybody here a virgin? I'll use a super extreme example. Is anybody a virgin? >> Okay, you're not a virgin. Um,

Brian Atlasso it's like, okay, I mean, how far do we talk about tradition? But even if you're not like y'all, okay, you want a man to protect, you want a man to provide, you want a man to be chivalous,

Brian Atlashe should be willing to die for you, but if his name isn't cool, I don't want to take his last name in marriage. [laughter] >> I mean, she got a point. Come on. >> Are you putting us all? >> No, she doesn't have a point. No, no, she does not have a point. I don't care

Brian Atlasif the man has the worst name ever. If you want to move in a traditional way, I don't care if his name is [ __ ] Dick Wad. You're taking his last. I don't care if his name is Rumple Dickkin.

Brian AtlasYou're taking his last name. I don't care if his name is I don't know [ __ ] Dick Sucker the third. You're taking his last I don't know what's some dumbass name.

Brian Atlas>> Gaylord. I don't even know why that's debatable for some women to sit there and want that. >> You think that? >> No, no, no. I said I'm who >> she she she was fighting me on this. She says, "Oh, yeah, that's fine. If the last name isn't cool, the woman doesn't

Latricehave to take the last name. You want to be you want to be a wife, you want to be married, you want a guy to get down on one knee to traditional want to, you know. >> Yeah. But if you want a traditional man, you have to be willing to go to uphold

Brian Atlasthose traditional values as well. That's the thing is that a lot of women are asking for that. >> Miriam, you circled men should pay on first dates. Men should provide, protect. Men should be show. >> He has to read my notes.

Brian Atlas>> If he wants to have babies, great. He does want to have babies. You want to have babies, too. Husband should be willing to die protecting me. I'm willing to >> and you write you circle. >> I'm willing to die too. >> Okay, fine. But

Brian Atlas>> men should pay on first dates is unique. Men should be chivalous. Unique to the man. >> Well, hold on. Let me make the point. Let me make the point. You also circle I will keep my last name or hyphenated in marriage.

Miriam>> So I will explain that. Um so where where I came from, it's it's like your your family tree. That's your name. So like it's my name. So in maybe somebody in the chat can

Brian Atlasclarify in Saudi Arabia. Is it con the woman have keeps the last name in marriage? >> Yeah, we never change. >> What about for the kids? >> Will the kids take the father's name? That's what I'm saying. >> For your kids, will they take your

Brian Atlas>> My name my father's name all the way to like the last name. >> For your kids. For your kids, >> they will have the father's name. The new man, they'll take the father's name. What about for you, Lauren?

Brian Atlas>> Whoever is a close last name. >> No. For let's say you meet a new guy. Uh, do your kids get the father's name? >> I mean, I don't know. >> You said, "Is it whoever has the coolest name?"

Lauren (29, healer)>> Yeah. >> Why? >> Because I just think that there's just like a cute thing to it. Like, I think my last name is cute. Like, I would love to like continue that unless he has a cooler last name.

Brian Atlas>> How about this? Let's say that the guy's last name is cool. >> Then he Yeah, we'll take it. >> You'll take it? >> Yeah. But if it's and you get you're the

Brian Atlasfinal arbiter of what's cool and what isn't. So you can reserve the right at any time to change your mind. >> Yeah, I had the baby. >> Oh, >> I guess continuing his bloodline is not

Brian Atlaswhat matters. I guess >> this You want a man to pay for not just pay for the date. You want a man to pay for a babysitter hundreds of dollars just to take you out on a date? >> Yes. >> You

Brian Atlas>> And you won't take a guy's last name. That's crazy. >> And you want to give it to >> That's crazy. You know what's interesting? She Weren't you saying how uh you do that? You want the guy to pay for the babysitter because you want to see if he's serious, if he's

Brian Atlasintentional. You won't take his last name. >> You have no seriousness. You have no intention. >> I mean, honestly, it just depends on what it means to him. >> You Let's Well, if he's a traditional guy, yeah, that's typically pretty

Brian Atlasimportant. >> Okay. And then that then we would have >> But it's a bad last name. You said it. Hold on. Can I ask you a question? You say it can be a conversation, a discussion, a ne negotiation. >> How would

Brian Atlas>> for you >> would you appreciate would you go for it if the guy wanted to have a conversation about paying for the babysitter >> or paying for the first date? Hey, let's

Brian Atlashave a we're on a date. Hey, let's have a we should have a convo. Let me let's negotiate this. Let's have a let's have a a disagreement. Let's have a negotiation. I don't think you would be okay with

Brian Atlasthat. >> I've had those conversations. >> So, you're telling me you don't you want the guy to just acquies? Yeah, of course he's paying for the first date. Of course, he's paying for the babysitter. Really? >> Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> You don't think it's a weird Like, for example, if a guy was like, I want to negotiate with you. I want to have a conversation with you. I want to discuss having to pay for the first date. That's not going to fly for a woman like you.

Latrice>> No. Didn't you have a girl on the podcast that had the same situation? Old girl with the tattoos? >> I remember >> something like that. I find this hard to

Lauren (29, healer)believe. You were so gung gung-ho on the man paying for the date paying for your baby. >> I've never had anyone this like passionate about it. But I mean, if it meant something to him, of course. >> To take the last name. >> Yeah.

Lauren (29, healer)>> I'm sorry. I can't go to the bathroom with you now, but maybe later. >> Yeah. It just depends on like if if it meant something to him like of course. But >> okay, >> it that's what I'm saying. I've just never really had this mean something.

NyxThat's traditional. >> Can I genuinely ask like what's the point of taking a last name? Like it's different cuz I have to keep track of No. What's What's the point? >> It was to keep track of like >> Well, as far as children goes to continue his bloodline. >> What the [ __ ] does bloodline mean? We're like this is the 21st century. Like

Brian Atlaswhat? >> Uh continue family like not let it end. In Filipino culture, you take both last names. So, this argument literally means nothing to me. >> We're in the United States. We're not in the Philippines. She lives in the United States. You live in the United States.

NyxYou're born in the United States. >> Okay? And people do this even outside of culture. Like literally, I just don't understand what this means. >> In the United States, the traditional thing is for the the the wife to take the husband's last name. >> But like literally, what's the point? >> I mean, if

Lauren (29, healer)>> what's the point? What's the point of anything then? Exactly. What's the point? Great. We What are you a [ __ ] uh ner? No. I just like I just don't get the point. >> My son after not my stepdad or his dad.

Brian AtlasI named him after my grandpa cuz I respected him. >> That's totally fine. But >> so and that's and that's how like that's >> Wait after your Wait, >> you named your son? Wait, wait, hold on.

Brian AtlasYou named your son after your >> grandpa. My grandpa. >> How does that benefit the man? >> It What do you mean? >> Every Do you know what salopypsism is? >> Salopypsism is the idea you think you're

Brian Atlasthe son. You think or I guess you think well it depends you're you think things revolve around you. >> Okay. Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me. You you you is me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me

Lauren (29, healer)>> okay >> you don't consider the other person >> I mean I just considered my son about how he would feel. I've also considered and I said hey if I had a man and it meant something to him then I would. So I feel like that argument actually

Miriamdoesn't work. >> I think if the man is asking you it means something to him he's not going to ask if it doesn't mean anything. >> No, I think he would tell me like >> but why does it have to be a conversation? Why isn't it just a given

Brian Atlasif if you're getting married? >> Some people don't care. That's that's what I'm saying. >> But it's like how can you be how can you say >> so? Yeah. >> Not only should the man pay on the first date, he's got to spend hundreds. How much is a babysitter for a few hours?

Lauren (29, healer)>> Pretty expensive. >> How much is a babysitter? >> Um maybe for like a night out maybe about it depends on how long we're gone like 60 to 150. >> Okay. So let's say it's 150. Not only does he got to t and I'm assuming you

Brian Atlasyou're not going to be satisfied with chili's or McDonald's like you'd like a a decent place >> for the first date something sweet but this then after that then it doesn't matter. >> Okay. So this guy's looking at spending $300. >> Mhm.

Lauren (29, healer)>> That's a lot. >> This and then >> you won't take the >> plus gas. >> You won't take the you won't take the last name. >> I actually didn't say that. You're trying to make me say something that I didn't even say.

Latrice>> You did say it. You're gas. You're gaslighting me, right? She didn't say she never would. >> She said only have to be if the name is cute [clears throat] >> and his last name. >> Okay. If he has a really bad last name

Lauren (29, healer)>> cuz I could swear I swear to God. I'm pretty sure the guy that had the d the duty last name. I think he's the one who pro who's like it doesn't matter. You know what I mean? Well, that's him. >> Exactly. So, I'm talking about my

Brian Atlasexperiences and this is a dating podcast and I'm talking about my experience. >> Sure. But what I'm saying is if you do I guess he was fine with it, but it's conceivable that you have your own

Brian Atlasviewpoint on it. And the the viewpoint that you articulated was, oh, you know, regardless of you being able to find a guy who's like, "Yeah, whatever. I don't care about the last name. It can be yours. It can be mine. We can invent a

Brian Atlasnew one. Who [ __ ] cares?" Yeah, you can find that. However, your position, your position is, uh, if it's not a cool name, I think I'd keep

Brian Atlasmine. if it's not a cool name, I don't want the kids to have his name. Uh, >> in a situation though where you do meet a guy >> and he comes across like a traditional

Brian Atlasguy and maybe you haven't had the conversation yet, but maybe you get the impression based off of how traditional he is. He's like, "Look, >> you almost assume that this guy wants

Brian Atlasyou to take his last name. You assume that if you have kids with him, you uh he's going to want you to take the last name." Why does it have to be a discussion then? Like when you say

Brian Atlasdiscussion, >> can I let I guess we can uh hypothetical it you guys are been dating for 6 months. You guys start talking. Hey, maybe we can, you know, this could this could go

Brian Atlasthe distance. I'd love to have how many more kids do you want to have? Oh, I want to have this many kids. Um, hey. Yeah. So, I want uh I want the kids to have my last name. Is that

Lauren (29, healer)>> is there a discussion beyond that? I think there I No, no, not after you have the discussion. But the reason that I also think it is a discussion is because I've also had friends that I grew up

Lauren (29, healer)with and they didn't take their husband's last name. So for me, this is like what I've also seen. So I've seen it not being as big of a deal as >> because something happens in another

Brian Atlasrelationship if you Okay. But do you agree that the traditional thing is for the woman to take the last name and for the kids to have the last name of the husband? >> Yes. But I've seen relationships on all sides.

Lauren (29, healer)>> Well, yeah, but you've probably heard of relationships where the dude gets pegged. >> Like that exists. That exists. So, I don't think that that's a that's super compelling. >> And then you have discussions. I I I asked you guys that on a date. You want

Brian Atlasto be Can we role play it really quick? >> All of that matters. >> Can we role play really quick? Sure. So, okay. Um, >> I'm a traditional guy. I want the kids to have my last name. >> Okay.

Brian AtlasWait, that's the discussion? >> That's the discussion. >> So, you just acquies? >> Yes. Now, I know that means something to you. >> Well, when you say discussion, I would Oh [laughter] my god. >> I guess I don't know. >> I was assuming like, "No, let's have prolonged conversations." And but if

Latriceit's >> But that meant something, then that's fine. >> It just sounded like you were basically just asking permission like like you were asking him for him to ask for your permission for his kids. >> Relax, you guys.

SPEAKER_00>> No, it it just doesn't seem >> You're not yourself. Chill. Get her. It doesn't. It doesn't have shots. It honestly doesn't take an energy shot. >> Hold on just one sec. We got chat coming through. >> Th donated $69. >> They're coming.

SPEAKER_00>> One, you're single. Not finding the man you want cause you're the problem and God is just protecting others from you. All defensive about your son, but yet you put him all over your social media. SMH.

Latrice>> Actually, I don't put my son's face on my social media. But I kind of wanted to touch on that part for a second because, you know, women are asking for this out of men to be traditional. Yet, you know,

Latricelike I said before earlier, they're not upholding those traditional values. And then the thing is about when it comes down to marriage. It the whole point of having the last name of your husband is to honor him. It's not necessarily just,

Latriceoh, I'm taking a last name whether or not it's nice or it sounds cute or it sounds cool. is the is about the fact that you're honoring him. >> We're still talking about last name. >> I do have to move

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SPEAKER_00weak as hell. You let him hit it raw. Didn't have second thoughts. Now you a single mom. >> What the heck? >> Okay, >> Nick, I sent you a uh text. Uh, diesel. Thanks for the TTS. Lulu, thanks for the

SPEAKER_00TTS. >> Lulu donated $69. Share one. No offense, but you never had a conversation about last names with a guy. Course nobody ever intended to lock you down. You got the looks, but your

Brian Atlaspersonality is vapid. Come down to earth. >> There's a compliment there. >> I've been engaged. >> Chivalry used to go, Final thing on

Brian Atlasthis. Chivalry used to go hand in hand with the idea of a woman being a lady. It was a mutual reciprocal, not quite symmetrical, but at least it

Brian Atlaswas mutual and reciprocal. >> The man had his roles, the woman had her roles. Women have forsaken and completely abandoned any duty, any

Brian Atlasresponsibility, any variance or even interpretation of a traditional gender role. But if you were n you basically act as

Brian Atlasif you're 1950s bachelorettes. It's 1950 for the man and it's 2025 20

Brian Atlascoming into 2026 for you. So for you you're a modern woman for the man tradition. That's a raw deal for men.

Brian AtlasRaw deal for men. Uh let's see here. Uh, I'm trying to think if >> But what about those women who are like slightly traditional? >> Yes, of course there are there are definitely traditional women out there.

Brian AtlasAnd by the way, there's also men who are definitely not traditional. But it seems like women, even if they're super modern, super feminist, super super egalitarian,

Brian Atlasstill seem to desire because they can get it, still seem to desire those traditional things because they're beneficial. Of course, it's it's optimal to not have to pay for the meal. You get to save your money. Somebody else pays

Brian Atlasfor you. That's a privilege. That's a benefit. But what duties do women have? Do women Well, do they do women have any responsibilities or duties?

Brian Atlas>> I think so. >> Well, let me ask you this. Um, >> this came up last show. >> Men will get women flowers. Has anybody here ever received flowers from a man? Yeah,

Brian Atlas>> I hit flowers. >> What is the female equivalent of that? >> I get that flowers. [laughter] Did >> you say head? What did you say? >> I would I BJ, but the guy could give you oral sex. So,

Taran (Deadly P)>> no, but I would most definitely get my man flowers. Like, I would most definitely open the door for my man. Like, I'm a I'm a I'm a clean. I'm a cook. But I also expect you to do the same thing. >> I don't think a BJ is the equivalent of

Lauren (24)flowers. >> She's one person. She's not everyone. >> Okay. >> I just asked whoever I'm dating what >> you wanted to hit on. >> I was just going to say like when it comes to like men paying on the first date and stuff and like being chauous. I

Lauren (24)feel like when you're asking the question like what does a woman do or whatever. I feel like because a lot of that has to do with like the further you go in a relationship and like marriage. Like once you get married

Lauren (24)and move in together, then it's the woman's job to like cook and clean and take care of the house and um raise the kids and stuff like that. But I I feel like if you're talking about traditional gender roles, then like while you're

Lauren (24)dating like then I feel like it's easy to say then yeah, a woman's job is just to be like look pretty and like let the guy treat her. So, prior to the marriage, she doesn't have to do anything. >> I'm not saying I'm not saying that like

Lauren (24)that's what I think, but I'm just saying I feel like that's how some women and maybe men like look at it. >> No, I think there's I mean that bow video that we played,

Brian Atlas>> you be submissive and you can be submissive very early on in a in a >> first date. Of course, >> that one for you in a first date. >> Well, you can bow. It's not even the bow. It's just a general submissiveness.

Taran (Deadly P)You acquies to his leadership. You follow. He leads. You follow. >> What if I want to lead and you follow? >> I'mma come home from my job. I'mma be the one paying for the house,

Taran (Deadly P)>> but I want you to come back. I want my dishes cleaned. I want my clothes washed. >> Like [laughter] >> she she's she she's just upset that I haven't seen her pop yet. But so,

Brian Atlas>> um, Kamiya, we're getting into Kamiya's notes here. Uh, okay. We we did your videos. You think red pill men are sabotaging themselves in the dating world >> and they're really >> I'm just kidding. I actually feel like

Brian Atlasred pill men are so hot. >> What is a real >> After she came on this podcast, everything changed, I guess. >> Yeah, after seeing you. >> Um, all right. >> To be honest, >> uh, deadly pee. Uh, you said men being

Brian Atlasokay with staying in the friend zone but still buying you things. Bro, that's a yikes. You're telling me that you have guys in the friend zone who buy you [ __ ] >> Well, it's more like

Taran (Deadly P)>> that's >> we're in the friend zone and you want to hang out, but I'm not going to go do the thing that you want to do because it costs money and I'm a college student. But if you're down to pay for that, that's fine. Like, as long as you pay for what you want to do, >> okay?

Taran (Deadly P)>> It's not like you're buying me objects. Like because I'm totally fine with like going and hanging out without spending money, but most of my friends and all these other people want to go spend all this money, which I'm not down to spend,

Taran (Deadly P)but you want me there and you're begging for me to be there. So if you really want me there, you can pay for it cuz I'm down to do something else and still be in your presence. >> Wouldn't that have to apply to all your

Taran (Deadly P)other friends? >> It does. So, like if I'm the one who is asking you to do something but you don't want to pay for it, sure. Like if I'm begging to be for you to be there, I'mma pay for

Latriceit. But if it's the other way around, you you got to pay for it or we can do something else. >> I mean, I guess it makes sense. I only do that with my friends. If I invite them somewhere, I'll pay out of pocket.

LatriceBut if it's a guy that I friend zone, I don't even talk to them. >> So, you did not friend zone. >> Wait, also you said you would punch him in the face. >> Oh, what? You wrote in your notes >> for

Brian Atlas>> the this guy you're telling platonically after saying you'd punch him in the face >> for what? >> You said you were punching. [laughter] >> That's the question. >> Okay. It was men being okay with staying in the friend zone but still buying you

Brian Atlasthings and taking you to do and paying for what the [ __ ] you want to do want platonically after saying you'd punch him in the face. That's your notes. Oh,

Taran (Deadly P)>> people, a lot of the men who been friend-zoned >> really harassed me about it. Like, they want sex and all this other stuff. And I'm like, "Bro, I I will punch you in the face if you keep continuing to do this." But then they want to go

Taran (Deadly P)>> do what? >> Continue to beg me for sex. Continue to slide into my DMs and tell me, "Hey, I want to jerk off to you." >> Okay. Well, that's weird. These guys in the friend zone though, I mean this idea that

Brian AtlasI think men and women can be friends, but >> friend zone implies that initially he had a romantic or sexual interest in you.

Brian Atlas>> I don't think you can be friends with somebody really if it started off with him wanting to [ __ ] you. >> Yep. >> Like I I mean logically it's possible, but practically

Brian AtlasYeah. You friend-zone. First off, if a girl friend-zones you, I next next. But I don't know. You friend-zone. [sighs and gasps]

Latrice>> I mean, if you're harassing me about it, eventually I might say yes. Like some >> No, that's crazy. Don't say that. That's crazy. >> That's completely different when there was when that was not initiated. If there was no any sort of

SPEAKER_08>> All right, I'm going to the bathroom. >> If it wasn't if >> actually Oh my god, you guys are >> If there wasn't any She's running. She's running. >> Hey, I actually >> that is >> I was saying if there was like it would

Latriceit would have been different if you weren't romantically involved in that person at all and it was just strictly platonic, then yeah, that would make more sense on your end. But it's like if if that person was trying to get romantically involved and you just told

Latricethem, you know what, this is not going to work out. I think we should just we should just stay friends and then that continues on. I'm not really sure where that's going with that one. I'm not really sure if that it doesn't really

Latricemake too much sense to me. Then again, I also the the whole dating scene, the way that you guys are struggling out there. >> I'm not going to lie, it's a bit ghetto. >> It is. >> It is. >> I don't know how you guys are managing

Latriceit. >> It's even struggling with the girls cuz they be saying they lesbian and then hopping on the dick the next day. >> Oh wow. >> I just I just don't know how that works out for you guys. I'm so sorry. That's

Latriceall I can say. Like I to hear the amount of first dates and all of this. I I don't know how that works. I've never Well, then again, I've never done online

Latricedating. I've never I've never been on a first date with someone I have no idea about. That's one thing I could say. I've never experienced that. So, when for me, when I when I was uh getting

Latriceslowly romantically involved with a guy, I wanted to get to know him first. had some conversations, talked, actually made time with that person to get to know them on a personal level. Then I then proceeded to the first date. I

Taran (Deadly P)never really did the whole like first date, first date, buy me steak dinners. >> I mean, like I get to know them and everything. And it's just like it's chill until it's not because a lot of men be like, "Oh, you're in which" Which

Taran (Deadly P)by the way, I have I am fully clothed on my Instagram. I'm not super sexual, but >> yeah, >> those men be like, "Oh, you're presenting yourself in this way." So, I deserve sex.

Taran (Deadly P)>> There are so many men that tell me, "Oh, we went on this first date. Now I am expecting sex." And it's just crazy cuz it's like, "Well, we just spent weeks getting to know each other and now you're telling me I owe you sex."

Taran (Deadly P)>> Yeah. Then obviously that guy was just >> It's It happens so much. And people say that my prettiness is the excuse for their behavior. And it makes it so much harder for me because I want to just get

Taran (Deadly P)to know you. I want to have an actual relationship. I'm not down to just have sex on the first date. And then they're like, "But I I just bought you food." >> And that's that's the problem that we're seeing on both ends, though. If you

Latricereally want to look at it from both ends, not just from one side. We see that we see that women are going through the situation with where men are expecting something to come out of that date that they're having. And then you have

Latrice>> And then you also have I'm kidding. I'm messing around. No, we're just f we're sorry. We're just >> I was saying uh I was saying that you know when it comes down to the negatives in dating and stuff where women are sitting here dealing with men that are

Latriceexpecting sex out of out of their first dates or just because they bought the mistake dinner but then you also have women that are sitting there they utilize men as a free meal as well. So it's like it's >> I mean I mean like it is a problem but

Taran (Deadly P)like I'm not part of that problem. I'm not using you for a free meal. I'm here to make an actual relationship. >> Just shifting gears to move things on a little bit. You said no standards are too high.

Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> What's this girl doing? What's she [clears throat] doing? Sorry. All right. >> Uh, no standards are too high. So, if like a morbidly obese woman is like, "My standard is I want to date Brad Pitt." >> You think it's a bit too high?

Brian Atlas[laughter] Young Brad Pitt like in the ' 90s. >> Oh, >> like a morbidly obese. >> I've seen a morbidly more more I can't say that morbidly. Yeah. O obese woman

Taran (Deadly P)with more than over 10 type men. I'm like damn I want that but like [ __ ] >> I think honestly they're just being fetishized. >> Yeah, >> that's what it is. >> Okay. >> And if they found their niche and it

Brian Atlasmakes them happy. >> Can I ask you a question? >> Are no standards no standards are too high for women? >> For both. >> For men too. >> Yeah. Like you have standards. I want to

Brian Atlasknow your standards. So if my standard is um I make no qu like I think I'm a average like at best average guy at best average but I obviously I give myself a 4.5 so

Brian Atlasthat's a bit below average. You even think I'm lower than that? You think I'm lower than that? Not upset by that whatsoever. Do you think there are no standards are too high for me?

Brian Atlas>> No. So, if I'm holding out, if I don't want to deal with an average chick and I want to [ __ ] a 10 out of 10 20-year-old supermodel,

Isabella>> am I being realistic? >> I mean, figure out what you're good about to you. Is that realistic? >> 100%. >> Okay. >> 100%. >> There's a there's many

Brian Atlaspeople I've dated >> in the past [ __ ] I don't know, three years or whatever. Two years. I When did I start the battle video? Two years ago. I don't know. They all do it. >> You think You think if a girl likes a guy, >> can you invite me to your wedding,

Brian Atlasplease? >> Sure, you can be there. You can be my maid. >> Can we be the flower girls? >> Yes. >> Uh, sure. >> I want to see. >> But you have to take the septum piercing out.

Brian Atlas>> I will. >> You You think a If a girl If a girl really likes a guy, she'll >> I don't know if I want to be graphic here.

IsabellaYou think a girl who really likes a guy the the bow is going to be the what's the term for it? >> No, she can. But you're all talking about these expectations like she has to be a model and like I feel like there's

Isabellamore models than people that will bow to you in my opinion. >> And when I'm talking about standards, I'm talking about >> there's quite a few models. There's a lot of agencies out there. She's a model.

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. You think it's more likely I get with a 10 out of 10 supermodel than find a woman who's willing to bow? >> I don't know what you consider 10 out of 10, but I do think you could get with an

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