35 w/ CRAZY Standards?! REFUSES TO SETTLE?! Obese Girl WILL NOT Date Obese Man?! | Dating Talk #267

Date: 2025-11-03
Duration: 8h 07m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Victoria Buma(guest)
SPEAKER_04Felicity(host)
SPEAKER_05Sabrina(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Leana (Finland)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_10Laura(guest)
SPEAKER_11Paige Hamilton(guest)
SPEAKER_12Maria Porcha(guest)

Key Moments

00:05:27
IntroAll 7 guests + Felicity introduce themselves
00:15:36
ControversyVictoria's 'Hitler always peaked my interest' TikTok played and discussed

Hitler always peaked my interest okay.

00:21:53
RelationshipFull relationship status round-table
00:32:15
Key MomentVictoria reveals she just started dating Noah (a Marine fan of the show) literally yesterday. He sends $200 super chat.
01:02:00
ControversyBrian confronts Sabrina about expecting fit men while being ~40% body fat herself
01:47:40
ControversyLaura openly admits to being 'slightly misogynistic' toward women
02:41:28
ControversyMaria names Europe, America, Asia as countries (all wrong), then Tokyo, Paris
02:44:05
ControversySabrina cannot name the continent she lives on for several agonizing minutes
05:24:55
Key MomentBrian expects women to do his laundry first visit, sparking show's biggest debate
06:00:01
QuoteVictoria: 'If willing to sleep with a man, should be okay folding his laundry'
06:27:00
Key MomentBrian counsels Paige about being mouthy to husband, quotes Proverbs 21:19
07:51:00
AgreementEvery woman chooses to give up voting over being subject to military draft

Topics Discussed

00:05:27
Guest Introductions

Maria (27, model/psych student from LA), Leana (36, Finnish mechanic born in Jerusalem), Victoria (19, controversial social media), Laura (31, unemployed Calabasas), Paige (32, married mother from NY), Sabrina (35, data analyst), Sophia (18, history student).

00:15:31
Victoria's Hitler Video

Victoria's TikTok about Hitler 'peaking her interest' played. She explains she studies historical figures. Leana (born in Jerusalem, Jewish) says she wasn't offended.

00:21:53
Relationship Status Round

Maria single 2 years. Leana in 7-year relationship. Victoria just started dating Noah yesterday. Laura single 4 years. Paige married 10 years (both virgins). Sabrina never >6 months. Sophia never dated.

00:58:18
Sabrina's High Expectations Debate

Sabrina won't date obese men despite being ~40% body fat herself. Brian challenges the double standard. Extended debate about asymmetry in attraction.

01:16:08
Laura's Anti-Wealth Stance

Laura finds extreme wealth 'gross' and 'disgusting.' Believes money corrupts people. Wants to live on a ranch in Texas.

01:47:40
Laura's Self-Described Misogyny

Laura admits to being 'slightly misogynistic.' Believes men are stronger, smarter, faster. Critiques the Whatever podcast.

02:41:28
Felicity's Trivia - Countries and Continents

Maria names Europe, Asia, Tokyo as countries. Sabrina cannot name the continent she lives on for several painful minutes.

02:50:20
Minimum Income Requirements

Maria: $300K. Leana: average. Victoria: $100-150K. Laura: no minimum. Paige: $85K. Sabrina: $80K. Sophia: $100K.

02:57:00
Man vs Bear Question

All women ultimately say man. Paige hesitates due to trust issues from absent father.

04:08:15
Body Count Reveal

Maria <5. Victoria 1 (one non-consensual). Laura refuses (implied 20+). Sophia 0. Paige 1 (husband only). Sabrina refuses.

04:48:02
Self-Rating Looks

Maria 10, Leana 6, Victoria 6, Laura 6, Paige 5, Sabrina 5, Sophia 3-5. AI age/gender filters shown.

05:24:55
The Laundry Debate

Major debate: should women do a man's laundry first visit? Victoria: 'if willing to sleep with him, should fold his laundry.' Laura eventually concedes after boyfriend/girlfriend.

06:06:01
The Bow Expectation

Brian shows ex bowing video. Most initially refuse but say yes for 'the perfect man.'

06:25:16
Paige's Marriage Advice

Brian reads Paige's notes about being mouthy to husband Skyler. Quotes Proverbs 21:19. Gives Skyler Hamlet quote as rhetorical weapon.

06:55:00
Brian's Anti-Marriage Stance

Brian refuses to marry: divorce risk, alimony, 80% of divorces initiated by women. Would only marry a billionaire woman. Would be stay-at-home dad.

07:46:00
Women and the Draft

All women choose to give up voting rights rather than be subject to military draft.

Transcript

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07:53:48
Brian Atlaswhatever. But that's one of the reason that makes me as a woman to appreciate men more. >> there? That [ __ ] is eligible. Mhm. That guy's [ __ ] eligible. >> so lucky. We are. By the way, I didn't
07:54:01
Brian Atlasmean [ __ ] in a weird way. I was just saying it. I didn't mean it like, you know. Yeah. Okay, good talk. Women Women are privileged. They are. All right. Again, I love it because like even should
07:54:12
SPEAKER_00exceed a native $30. How about rather than drafting women for combat, they can be drafted to have babies if we fall below replacement rate. Oh my god. Would you take that trade for equality? Honestly, yeah.
07:54:25
Brian AtlasLike I plan to have children anyways. I don't see the problem with that. >> Yeah, but forced like tomorrow? I think most women and most feminists would have a way bigger issue with with a birth
07:54:38
Brian Atlasdraft versus a military draft. >> Yes. Yeah. >> Like that seems probably in some ways Yeah. Um moving on. You said body count doesn't matter. What? Or the disagree. Body count doesn't Oh, you agree. Oh, yeah, yeah. Body count matters.
07:54:51
Brian Atlas>> Okay. You said I don't know if this is a disagreement. All women men are beautiful. You agree or disagree >> agree with that. Oh, okay. Never mind then. That's like related to the 1 to 10 thing where Yeah. >> Okay.
07:55:02
Brian AtlasUh let's see here. Um Oh, you once did this man that Do you want to fill in the blanks? Uh I think I mentioned it in the beginning. God wanted Yeah.
07:55:15
Victoria Buma>> you to have Nothing to do with him. >> Yeah. So, what happened just very quickly? Um I met this man when I was doing school in New York and this was during the time I was going through some
07:55:27
Victoria Bumafinancial struggles with my family. So, I was at boarding school and unfortunately, I had to um leave and uh literally didn't have a place to go because I um didn't have the
07:55:40
Victoria Bumaor I chose not to go back to Morocco just because there was some issues with my family at the time. So, I was dating this guy simultaneously and the funniest thing was I asked God if he wasn't for
07:55:51
Victoria Bumame, then to just take him away from me and the next thing I knew literally within I think 5 days, I was in the opposite side of America, you know, living with my aunt who was helping me
07:56:03
Victoria Bumaat the time. And I kept going back, I kept pushing, I kept trying to keep the long distance, and all the signs were there, and I kept just asking God or I kept just ignoring him. And when I went
07:56:14
Victoria Bumaback to New York to do a modeling campaign, unfortunately, I had gotten a call from my friend who was the same friend who would later tell me a different thing about my boyfriend or
07:56:25
Victoria Bumaex. And her her boyfriend got on the call and told me that my ex had been talking bad about me the entire time, that he didn't want anything to do with me ever since I came, that he was
07:56:37
Victoria Bumasaying, "Oh, I'm just going to If I meet her this time, I'm just going to sleep with her, and it's I'm going to be done with it." Which was kind of appalling cuz I never could have saw it through him, but um funny enough, I still tried to mend
07:56:50
Victoria Bumathings, I still tried to give him the benefit of the doubt because there was no evidence, and it was just hearsay, and I was convincing myself that it wasn't true. And um when I was going back home on I was in
07:57:02
Victoria Bumathe airport, um it was just a lot of bad stuff that happened uh one after the other. I lost my wallet, missed my flight. When I got home, you know, I had gotten a call from
07:57:12
Victoria Bumamy friend again, and this was right after I had sent an apology text, and he replied to it saying that he was sorry as well. And she had told me she was just like, "Hey, I need you to look at this photo that my friend sent me." And
07:57:25
Brian Atlasit was a screenshot of his hinge profile. So, um yeah. >> What was the thing about the accusations? What When you say accusations, what do you mean? Accusations? In here you say, "We argued, but due to lack of evidence,
07:57:38
Victoria BumaI decided to drop the subject and apologize for your accusations." What are the accusations? So, the The accusations were that he was telling his friends that he didn't want anything to do with me. His best friend telling me
07:57:50
Brian Atlasthat he didn't want anything to do with me, so. All right. Final one or two things here from your notes. Um uh let's see. You say modern-day feminism has ruined
07:58:03
Victoria Bumadating. Yes. Did you want to kind of jump into some of that stuff? Yeah, I'll dabble a little bit. Um yeah, we have we have empowerment all warped now. It's almost like we're going backwards, and
07:58:15
Victoria Bumait's becoming almost animalistic to a certain degree. Um there's nothing empowering about sleeping and trying to get that body count higher. So, I literally had an argument with a man about this the other
07:58:26
Victoria Bumaday, and it was shocking to me how he was trying to convince me that it was empowerment, which I'm sure would be more beneficial for him, but um yeah, no, it's not empowerment. I think that the best thing we can do is tell
07:58:39
Victoria Bumaother women that there are things that we can do, and there are things that we cannot ever measure up against a man. So, but that's okay, and we need to be fine with what we are biologically made
07:58:50
Victoria Bumato do. So, yeah, that's my view and take on why modern-day feminism is bringing us backwards. Yeah, it creates shame to sleep around and be free. Yeah. It's
07:59:00
Victoria Bumalike OnlyFans girls going out in public looking like Yeah, like half naked, and then they're like, "Oh, why are you looking at my boobs?" I don't think that we I don't think that
07:59:11
Victoria Bumawe should be shaming cuz directly OnlyFans girls, there's another thing you would never see me throw dirt on another girl's name cuz I truly believe to claim that you care about women and still like point your fingers at certain
07:59:24
Victoria Bumapeople, you would need to understand that the reason why we have OnlyFans is partially because of the feminism, but also because there's a demand where there's product And a crazy amount. But there's not enough judgment
07:59:37
Victoria Bumafor it. Like it's normalized now. It should be I 100% I think it shouldn't be. I don't think that we should be having these OF celebrities promoting makeup brand I don't think so. But at
07:59:48
Victoria Bumathe same time, to drag people's name in the mud to It's It would be like to point your finger at a prostitute and be like, "Oh, you're a whore." When in reality, you just don't know what she
07:59:59
Victoria Bumawhy she went there. Who told her that was okay? By definition, she is. I'm not going around like, you know, slut-shaming people, but I I I absolutely think that to some degree we should slut-shame people. I don't think
08:00:11
Victoria Bumathat's a problem. The problem becomes when you lose your empathy, and it's not coming from a place of love, it's just coming from a place of pride. So, if you're going to criticize a prostitute, it should be out of love. It should be,
08:00:24
Victoria Buma"Hey, you're better than this. You need to turn to God." It shouldn't be out of your assault, "You're a whore." You know. That's why also um We've kind of lost the reality of things. It's We have
08:00:35
Leana (Finland)this delusion that you can like eat your cake and save your cake like having it too. Like you can be there, and you can be naked, and then you can come out of there and be like, "Oh, I'm not an object."
08:00:48
Laura>> Yeah, no, you can't be empowered and It's soul-destroying, and they don't realize it until it's too late, and they're trading that for a dollar. >> [clears throat] >> All right. Rock and roll. Any final
08:01:00
SPEAKER_07thoughts from anybody before we wrap up the show? I love this panel. Me, too. Hitler is very, very, very interesting. There wasn't enough arguments. There was a lot of I thought we were going to
08:01:11
Laurafight. Yeah, like fight a little. I fought with her and Yeah, he did. Yeah, but he didn't pick anything we don't agree with. Like massive And there's really not a lot that we disagree on. It's just the nitpicking.
08:01:24
Brian AtlasIt's just the nitpicking and the laundry. There's no rage. I wasn't rage-baiting everything I said. I believe in everything I say. I think you do believe it, but I also think you were kind of like picking, poking,
08:01:36
Brian Atlaspicking, poking a little bit. Just a tiny bit. No. Uh Felicity, any final thoughts from you from you? No. I'm not [laughter] feeling straight now.
08:01:47
FelicityWhy? I'm hungry. Oh my god. Me, too. So am I. There's so many snacks back there. I'm so bored of this. Did you try some of the Oh my god, Felicity, be a good sport. What the [ __ ] >> I'm trying I'm trying to have so much
08:01:58
Brian Atlaspatience. I really am. But you asked me what I thought, and I told you. She was just honest. Wow, not a trooper. Felicity L L Felicity, not a trooper. L Felicity in
08:02:10
Paige Hamiltonthe chat. >> try sitting here for 8 hours. They do. Yeah, we do. Tell them, people in the chat. Oh my god, she's got a ball and chain, you guys. Free Felicity. In LA last night, it was crazy keeping
08:02:23
Paige Hamiltoneverybody awake, right? But it was great cuz yay, Dodgers. Where are you staying? Like or like what vicinity? Well, I was in All right. You guys can talk about that stuff after the show.
08:02:33
Brian AtlasAll right. Um well, GG Well played. to the panel. Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out. Also, please leave a nice comment
08:02:43
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08:02:54
Brian Atlasbut you were here with me. I appreciate that. Thank you to everyone who so generously supports the show, super chats, donates,
08:03:05
Brian Atlaswatches, likes, all however however you support, I appreciate that. Couldn't do it without you guys, you know, demonetized. You get a lot of the stuff gets demonetized, and
08:03:17
Brian Atlasnot doing sponsorships. If you guys supported, so thank you guys. Quick thing on our upcoming schedule. So, I don't I'm not going to do whatever Wednesday this week. I have We have Andrew
08:03:30
Brian Atlasuh coming. Debate, dating talk, debate. Uh at least two debates. We might, depending on who we can get, we might try to squeeze in one more, but
08:03:42
Brian Atlaswe do fingers crossed, you know, whatever, things happen, but two debates, dating talk, Andrew Wilson back in studio. It's been like 6 months. It's going to be good. We got some good
08:03:53
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08:04:06
Brian Atlaslittle comment. And uh I'm trying to think of the Oh, hold on. How about the kilt? Are you wearing No, we did not hit I don't even think one super chat came in >> [laughter]
08:04:17
SPEAKER_00>> that uh that met the threshold, but some we have this final message here. Uh final message. Whole 9 Yards donated
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SPEAKER_00$30. The countries of Chad, Denmark, Eritrea, Guinea-Bissau, Israel, Mali, Mozambique, North Korea, Norway, and Sweden all have mandatory military
08:04:39
Brian Atlasservice, which also includes the females. Okay, so the other 193 countries I was off by, you know, I think I said one or two countries have it. Um
08:04:52
Brian Atlaswhat is that? 10 countries or so? The other 180 countries don't uh have anything that can anything that can compel women into military service. All these other 180 other countries or
08:05:05
Brian Atlaswhatever uh have male-only military conscription, and some of them uh whether there's a draft or not, force men all men to join the military for a period of time.
08:05:16
Leana (Finland)Go ahead. I think the big difference with the US is that you guys are the ones who always go into conflict to stop it after things go too crazy. None of those other countries like go somewhere to stop the war, but it's
08:05:28
Leana (Finland)always US. That's why I like really appreciate you guys. US is the hero. We intervene in a lot of I guess for the world police. I don't know if that's a good thing, though. Um
08:05:40
Brian AtlasFor the rest of us, it is. Uh it's I don't think it's I guess it's good for other Western countries, but it's not good for America.
08:05:50
Brian AtlasI don't think it's good for America that we are spending all this money on the military. Well, I think it's good we have a strong military, but that we're meddling in all these conflicts, that's not good for the American
08:06:03
Leana (Finland)citizen. >> nowadays. Like thinking about World Wars and stuff, it none of them would have stopped without the US. >> we have all this money for like ICBMs and [ __ ] I don't know. I'm not All this [ __ ] It's like a lot of money and like
08:06:17
Leana (Finland)we policy >> We should be maybe focusing on the American citizen a little more than >> Yeah, probably. Like like in the airplane when you get the mask on, it's always it should be always you first.
08:06:28
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And then you can help. Yes, maybe we can revitalize our infrastructure. Maybe we can help out the homeless. Maybe we can, you know, uh anyways, whatever. Okay.
08:06:39
Brian AtlasUh maybe we maybe we could be taxed a little less. And we have higher tax than you do. >> maybe the IRS doesn't uh literally Well, not it wouldn't be literally, figuratively [ __ ] us. Okay.
08:06:52
Brian AtlasUh [laughter and gasps] that's pretty much it, guys. Again, Andrew Wilson coming. I shouldn't have paused there. >> [laughter] >> Uh Andrew Wilson will be here in studio. Uh
08:07:03
Brian AtlasI believe scheduled Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Debate, dating talk, debate. All right, guys. Uh 07's in the chat. 07's in the chat. Good night, guys. I hope you guys enjoyed the stream. It was
08:07:15
Brian Atlasa fun one. I enjoyed it. Uh and uh yeah, we'll see you guys soon. Good night, guys.