35 w/ CRAZY Standards?! REFUSES TO SETTLE?! Obese Girl WILL NOT Date Obese Man?! | Dating Talk #267
Date: 2025-11-03
Duration: 8h 07m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Victoria Buma(guest)
SPEAKER_04Felicity(host)
SPEAKER_05Sabrina(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Leana (Finland)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_10Laura(guest)
SPEAKER_11Paige Hamilton(guest)
SPEAKER_12Maria Porcha(guest)
Key Moments
00:05:27
IntroAll 7 guests + Felicity introduce themselves
00:15:36
ControversyVictoria's 'Hitler always peaked my interest' TikTok played and discussed
“Hitler always peaked my interest okay.”
00:21:53
RelationshipFull relationship status round-table
00:32:15
Key MomentVictoria reveals she just started dating Noah (a Marine fan of the show) literally yesterday. He sends $200 super chat.
01:02:00
ControversyBrian confronts Sabrina about expecting fit men while being ~40% body fat herself
01:47:40
ControversyLaura openly admits to being 'slightly misogynistic' toward women
02:41:28
ControversyMaria names Europe, America, Asia as countries (all wrong), then Tokyo, Paris
02:44:05
ControversySabrina cannot name the continent she lives on for several agonizing minutes
05:24:55
Key MomentBrian expects women to do his laundry first visit, sparking show's biggest debate
06:00:01
QuoteVictoria: 'If willing to sleep with a man, should be okay folding his laundry'
06:27:00
Key MomentBrian counsels Paige about being mouthy to husband, quotes Proverbs 21:19
07:51:00
AgreementEvery woman chooses to give up voting over being subject to military draft
Topics Discussed
00:05:27
Guest Introductions
Maria (27, model/psych student from LA), Leana (36, Finnish mechanic born in Jerusalem), Victoria (19, controversial social media), Laura (31, unemployed Calabasas), Paige (32, married mother from NY), Sabrina (35, data analyst), Sophia (18, history student).
00:15:31
Victoria's Hitler Video
Victoria's TikTok about Hitler 'peaking her interest' played. She explains she studies historical figures. Leana (born in Jerusalem, Jewish) says she wasn't offended.
00:21:53
Relationship Status Round
Maria single 2 years. Leana in 7-year relationship. Victoria just started dating Noah yesterday. Laura single 4 years. Paige married 10 years (both virgins). Sabrina never >6 months. Sophia never dated.
00:58:18
Sabrina's High Expectations Debate
Sabrina won't date obese men despite being ~40% body fat herself. Brian challenges the double standard. Extended debate about asymmetry in attraction.
01:16:08
Laura's Anti-Wealth Stance
Laura finds extreme wealth 'gross' and 'disgusting.' Believes money corrupts people. Wants to live on a ranch in Texas.
01:47:40
Laura's Self-Described Misogyny
Laura admits to being 'slightly misogynistic.' Believes men are stronger, smarter, faster. Critiques the Whatever podcast.
02:41:28
Felicity's Trivia - Countries and Continents
Maria names Europe, Asia, Tokyo as countries. Sabrina cannot name the continent she lives on for several painful minutes.
02:50:20
Minimum Income Requirements
Maria: $300K. Leana: average. Victoria: $100-150K. Laura: no minimum. Paige: $85K. Sabrina: $80K. Sophia: $100K.
02:57:00
Man vs Bear Question
All women ultimately say man. Paige hesitates due to trust issues from absent father.
04:08:15
Body Count Reveal
Maria <5. Victoria 1 (one non-consensual). Laura refuses (implied 20+). Sophia 0. Paige 1 (husband only). Sabrina refuses.
04:48:02
Self-Rating Looks
Maria 10, Leana 6, Victoria 6, Laura 6, Paige 5, Sabrina 5, Sophia 3-5. AI age/gender filters shown.
05:24:55
The Laundry Debate
Major debate: should women do a man's laundry first visit? Victoria: 'if willing to sleep with him, should fold his laundry.' Laura eventually concedes after boyfriend/girlfriend.
06:06:01
The Bow Expectation
Brian shows ex bowing video. Most initially refuse but say yes for 'the perfect man.'
06:25:16
Paige's Marriage Advice
Brian reads Paige's notes about being mouthy to husband Skyler. Quotes Proverbs 21:19. Gives Skyler Hamlet quote as rhetorical weapon.
06:55:00
Brian's Anti-Marriage Stance
Brian refuses to marry: divorce risk, alimony, 80% of divorces initiated by women. Would only marry a billionaire woman. Would be stay-at-home dad.
07:46:00
Women and the Draft
All women choose to give up voting rights rather than be subject to military draft.
Transcript
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03:54:06
Maria Porchacommon. Um you're Are you Afro-Cuban or what? Oh, I'm mixed, but I have a lot going on. So on my mom's side, it's Italian,
03:54:17
Maria PorchaIrish, German. Then my dad's side is like Creole, so it's black, but then has like Mexican. Got you. Okay. Um see a lot. What about your kids? Will will
03:54:28
Brian Atlasthey have your husband's last name? >> More than likely. Yeah. But nobody else wants to like hyphenate or No. Okay. All right. Actually, there's nothing really there, then. >> [laughter] >> I would say at least to you, though, I I
03:54:41
Brian Atlaskind of muddies the water a little bit just because you said quote I understand culturally with like more like Latina Latina Hispanic culture, I guess it's kind of common. I'm really not I don't know. Um who Do we
03:54:55
Brian Atlas>> It's more common. >> Do we have any uh Latinos in the chat who can help me figure this out? Is it I guess it's a thing if if it is culturally more common, I guess, whatever. Although you do live in the United States, so
03:55:08
Brian Atlasuh I think at least in the United States, I don't know if like among like for example, Mexican immigrants, legal immigrants to the United States, if they're doing the shared last name
03:55:20
Brian Atlasthing, I I don't know. Um and I I imagine it differs, you know, there's so many like Latin American countries, there's Puerto Rico, there's the Caribbean. Um
03:55:33
Brian AtlasSo Yeah, anyways, whatever. I don't know. Uh Somebody said it's Is it only a Mexican thing? Like what about in like
03:55:43
Brian AtlasCosta Rica or Panama or Peru or uh Argentina? I don't know. Do they do the multiple last names thing or I don't know.
03:55:55
Brian AtlasUm okay. Did you You did the this one here? Yeah. Okay. >> But I didn't ask the second part. Okay. I'll get to that, then. Um Oh, oh Did you just do this one, the rejected
03:56:08
Brian Atlasbecause of her weight a woman should not? Oh, wow. Wait, you got to 15? Yeah. You did the No. Oh, wait. I thought you just did the firearm one. Yeah, so 15 would be my next one. Oh, got you. Okay.
03:56:20
Brian AtlasUh so woman should not be rejected because of her weight. You agree. Uh anybody else on that? I know we just kind of talked about how you can't force attraction. Yeah, we We
03:56:32
Maria Porchawent over it. Okay. Didn't you say you would only date a guy who's 6 ft 6 ft 1? I would prefer a guy who's over 6 ft. Like I've dated shorter, but it's just I want to be able
03:56:45
Maria Porchato wear heels around my man. >> Yeah, and your body type, you're very thin, but like long, so that makes sense. >> Yeah, like lengthy. Like I just want someone I can wear heels around and Okay. Yeah.
03:56:56
Brian AtlasBut so My ex is 6 ft 9. Is it wrong to reject a woman because of her weight? Like if she's overweight, is it wrong to reject her? I don't think it's wrong Oh.
03:57:07
Maria PorchaBut you said a woman should not be rejected because of her weight. I said she should not, but that would be his preference. We talked about it. She misunderstood. She was like >> Yeah.
03:57:19
Brian AtlasOkay. Did anybody go in on this one, 13? Uh no, I don't think so. Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. Yeah. They're all fine with it. Okay. Well, I don't
03:57:32
Lauraknow if you answered that. We were agreeing too much. I was in the restroom. But yeah, yeah, definitely if you're in a long dry spell, there's something wrong. Yeah, I agree. Rock and roll. Really
03:57:44
Brian Atlasquick on the minimum yearly income, you said $300,000. It seems like nobody Was there any higher like I don't know how high it was. Why was it the highest? Uh I mean, it's not it's not crazy.
03:57:56
Maria PorchaBut would you date Would you date a guy who like 200K? You wouldn't? Even 200 Okay, that's fine. It's not like you 100K and up, really. I mean nobody's going to say no to 300k. I almost let's do the calculator really quick. We don't do the calculator very
03:58:08
Brian Atlasoften. We'll do the calculator super quick. We're going to see how many men there are out there that meet your criteria. I've done this. All right, scroll down. I've done this and I'm at like 6%.
03:58:20
Brian AtlasOkay, age of men you're willing to date? Oh my god. Oh, the unwilling yeah, cut off at 40. Yeah, cuz that's even kind of old.
03:58:28
Brian AtlasMinimum? Minimum 20. 23. You'll date 23? 21. You'll date 21. You'll date How old are you again? 27. Cougar over here. Not that bad.
03:58:43
Paige HamiltonSo okay, 21 to 40 and do you want to exclude men who are married? Of course. >> Okay, I don't know why that's that's such a Let's get rid of that. There There are a lot of people out there that think that's hot and that's just
03:58:55
Brian Atlasdisgusting. Um doesn't matter. Any color or shade? Yeah. Okay, minimum height. Let's I think was it 6'1" or 6 ft? >> 6 ft. Okay, 6 ft. Exclude obese. Ex-
03:59:07
Brian Atlasyeah. Yes, minimum income 300k. All right. All right, find out. Probability, your ideal man 0.048.
03:59:19
Brian Atlas[laughter] No. [ __ ] I'm going to pull it back up. Um Damn, okay. How do you feel about that? I mean
03:59:30
Maria PorchaI feel like am I being that unrealistic? Like I live in LA, the men I've dated have had money, they've been well off, they have like great homes, lifestyles. So if they're not making
03:59:44
Brian Atlasthat much, that's what I'm thinking they're making or what they're saying they're making over 200. It It's factoring in the entire US. So the the proportion of men who are 6 ft and fall
03:59:57
Brian Atlasinto this age range and then make 300,000 dollars. I mean the height and the 300,000 is going to be the primary limiting thing
04:00:07
Brian Atlashere in terms of probability. I don't belong on this planet. Oh [ __ ] What's that? >> to do it. You want to do it? Maybe next time. Remind me though first
04:00:20
Brian Atlaswe'll do it. We'll do it. Okay, so there's that. And then there's a couple people on the bear, right? Um it was just Any crazy height requirements? It's just 6 and up. That
04:00:32
Laurawas the highest we got. Bear, who picked bear? We both said bear or man. >> Into the mic, please. I'm sorry. We both said man or bear. We weren't I said it depends. Yeah, I
04:00:44
Paige Hamiltonsaid like bear only because but that's on me because of past experiences. I want it to be man and I'm working on that. I'm healing myself.
04:00:55
Paige HamiltonI just a lot of times like even just meeting a guy like I need to I keep my distance naturally. And like I said, I didn't even notice I did any of this until this year. So I'm trying to not be like that.
04:01:07
LauraAnd to give everyone a chance. And then she picked bear, too? No, I picked man but I said I'm a frai- afraid of neither. I've run into bear and man. I'll just skip push back on the bear for
04:01:19
Brian Atlastonight. Um And then there was a disagreement from uh Paige, you said you think anyone can be redeemed even if they have a high body
04:01:30
Paige Hamiltoncount. Women and men should be equal always. But that doesn't mean things should be made easier. >> Yeah, like I just I don't think that like like if if something's hard even for a man to do, it should is going to
04:01:42
Brian Atlasbe extra hard for a woman. You don't make it less hard just cuz she's a woman. Okay, I I think I see what you're saying there. Uh But then you think anyone can be redeemed even if they have a high body
04:01:54
Paige Hamiltoncount. I do. I think if they have a high body count and then they're actively trying and they're actively actively living a life where they're not sleeping around and they're in a committed relationship and their track record is
04:02:05
Brian Atlasgood, then yeah, that sounds like they are redeemed. Okay, I have a thought on that but I need a Hmm. I mean I I actually I have to wait until I make my
04:02:17
Brian Atlasargument on this. I need the full panel. I need the full table here. Uh okay. Hold on, let me check if we have No, we're good.
04:02:26
Brian AtlasUh I'll get into some show notes then. So going to Actually, I want to do a fun segment [snorts] I guess cuz it was kind of heated at the beginning. Would it
04:02:37
Brian AtlasIs it a deal breaker if a guy has softer hands than you? Have to say yes as a mechanic. Like if a
04:02:46
Brian Atlasguy has soft hands, is it softer than yours even? Is it a Is it kind of a turn-off? Is it you know? A little bit.
04:02:57
FelicityOkay. Not a deal breaker though. My husband's a construction worker so like his hands haven't been soft in 8 years, you know. I like it when a guy comes back with like dirty hands from like working outside. Yeah, I don't know why.
04:03:09
Brian Atlas>> But mine are dirty, too. Because I don't know if I genetically if there's something wrong with me or whatever, but I have By the way, I'm 36. I'm 36. I have
04:03:20
Brian Atlasreally like almost freakishly soft hands. Now I want to touch that. This isn't like this isn't some like uh
04:03:31
Brian Atlasget clammy hands, that could be it. Uh maybe sometimes but What you're talking like natural moisturizer? >> a lot of lotion. No, I don't I don't even use lotion. I don't use lotion.
04:03:43
Brian AtlasNone of that [ __ ] But uh What was I [ __ ] What was I saying? And the air's dry out here so that's weird. No, it's not. Not in Southern California. Oh, okay. Sorry. Oh, yeah. Oh, this isn't some This is not a ploy to like get you guys
04:03:56
Brian Atlasto touch my hand like I'll do it. Just as a fun segment. This is like Okay. >> come around and let us touch them? Okay. Oh, they're very soft.
04:04:09
FelicityHis hands are so soft. They're like little baby girl hands. Are [laughter] they smaller than mine? I have a 2-year-old. Let me feel it. >> Oh gosh, here. Does anybody I have a 2-year-old. Let me feel. Wow. Very impressive. Can I get some hand sanitizer?
04:04:23
Laura>> [laughter] >> Hand sanitizer? She wants to feel. If they were warm, they would feel like a baby's. They feel the top, too. They're pretty soft. >> [laughter]
04:04:35
Felicity>> His hands are like a soft Very smooth. Okay, I need to I got to wash my hands now. So is it a deal breaker though if a guy has soft hands like that? Like podcaster
04:04:48
Paige HamiltonBrian hands. Well, has he ever mowed a lawn? It wasn't that creepy. >> Can you fix things, Brian? No. Yeah. It's It's about the grip tech things.
04:04:59
FelicityHe's not out there like changing an oil. I don't Yeah, I don't think I could see that for Brian. >> Yeah, I know. But like so say it was a guy that you were interested interested in, is that like a deal breaker? His
04:05:12
Leana (Finland)hands are soft. >> I've never dated a guy with really soft hands but I would. I mean it's not a deal breaker. Unless he shakes your hand like a dead fish, then it's not a problem. That's like the worst thing ever. Do you
04:05:23
Felicityguys prefer it when a guy gives you like a strong grippy handshake or like when he like shakes your hand like a dead fish? Yeah. I like it when they're like soft, [clears throat] like Like lose your hand. Like Like that.
04:05:37
SophiaI like that. I don't know. I've always seen more of a firm handshake as a sign of respect. Like that's always what my grandpa taught me. And like at a I shook a pastor's hand once. It was my grandpa's pastor and it was literally
04:05:48
Brian Atlaslike a dead fish and I was like I just felt like disrespected and it was a pastor. >> Wait, question for the women here who are wearing glasses, are they all prescription? Yes. Prescription. So you
04:06:01
Brian Atlasguys would be blind without them? I should get mine. There's a whole row. No, it's okay. So I'm wearing contacts. Blurry for sure. Yeah, you know What was I saying? I've had like a girl be like, "Whoa,
04:06:14
Paige Hamiltonyour hands are really soft." And I'm like I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. >> like a lot of no-gos like if you found out after you started dating them, like you would just let it go, you know. Well, she asked, "Can you mow a lawn?"
04:06:26
LauraYeah. Have you Have you said it? Has Brian ever mowed a lawn? Like you know, it's a fair question. I mow the lawn. I mow the lawn. Could you change your car's oil?
04:06:37
Brian AtlasCould I change my car's oil? It's not that hard. I'm I'm sure I could figure it out but I just I could figure it out. I just go I just
04:06:51
Brian AtlasThis this this I always get flak for some of this stuff and some people like look, obviously, you know, life skills whatever. It's like look, humans have become like specialized and like we have our speci-
04:07:03
Paige Hamiltonspecialties, you know. I I you know what I Okay, I'm just coping I guess at this point. >> latest South Park episode? It's literally about this. It's hilarious. So instead of like there being um people like um like Latina and Hispanic people
04:07:17
Paige Hamiltonwanting jobs at Home Depot, it's actually all these white men who went to college looking for people to help fix their house because all the handyman are so rich now because nobody can do it.
04:07:27
Brian AtlasNice. Yep. Good times. It's good times. [laughter] I'm trying to remember what Anyways, I don't know. I don't know if it's a good thing. I don't know if it's I don't know if it's a bad thing but You were talking about a girl who something
04:07:41
Brian Atlasbecause of your soft hands. Oh yeah, girls have like mentioned it. I mean it hasn't been an issue. Like they're not like uh They're not [laughter] like uh They probably like it if you touch them with those soft hands. Yep.
04:07:54
Felicity>> [laughter] >> If I saw if I met a guy with soft hands like I'd be like I'm going to change that. I'm going to put you to work. >> Yes, exactly. Rough hands tell character. That's what she said. But I used to I don't know. So I like I used to
04:08:08
Victoria Buma>> [laughter] >> I used to have a Oh, we took a while. Uh where were we? We were doing the body >> I think there's glue that you can get to make your hands rougher. No, I'm not going to like >> [laughter] >> Rough enough. >> fake it. You can't fake that [ __ ] You
04:08:20
Brian Atlasgot to just, you know, whatever. >> Pick up a shovel. Yeah, something like >> It'll It'll lift weights. Yeah. Uh so Uh yes, the uh past should not matter related to
04:08:32
Paige Hamiltonyour disagreement. Women can be redeemed. Um it seems past should not matter. >> A A quote I really like is like every saint has a past, every sinner has a future as long as you're growing and
04:08:43
Brian Atlastrying to be better. I do like that. >> I do especially I wish it was mine, but So I guess I'm going around the table on that. Um body count should matter, shouldn't matter, whatever it is. Uh what's your body count?
04:08:55
Brian AtlasUh I'm not saying that. Give us a range. Give us a range. Who's going to be a good sport really quick? Who's going to be a good sport? Good sport? >> Mine's probably higher than yours. >> Good sport? Less than five.
04:09:07
Victoria Buma12. 12? Uh one of them was not consensual. >> That doesn't count. Doesn't count. >> Okay, so one. Okay. Not saying. Range? What? I just said mine. So you can do Uh have Did you Have you lost track? Is
04:09:21
Laurathat it? >> No, I've never lost track. >> Have you [clears throat] forgotten? Not forgotten. Didn't keep track. No, just not saying. He's never going to let it go. I've I've seen this before. >> [laughter] >> Seen it before.
04:09:34
Brian AtlasI mean I I literally move on within like 20 seconds, but Do you want to do a range? Like it's between this and this instead of like an
04:09:43
Sabrinaexact number. I'd rather not. Is 50? Definitely never. Go ahead. One. >> One? Okay, to the husband? I also choose not to say.
04:09:55
SabrinaSorry, Brian. Yeah, what? I already said mine. Can you do Can you do a range? Can you give us a range? No, I'm sorry. Um range No range? No range. Did you lose track? No.
04:10:09
Brian Atlas35, never had a boyfriend. Hold on, let me do some Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Oh my gosh. >> [laughter] >> Never had a 35, never had a relationship
04:10:20
Sabrinalonger than a couple months. Have you Wait, have you even had a boyfriend? I mean, yeah, but I was saying that I I wouldn't like say that those are successful relationships. >> said they were like a couple months. I mean, it's like Yeah, I wouldn't say
04:10:33
Paige Hamiltonsuccessful. You haven't had a long-term relationship. >> had like a long-lasting good You haven't had a relationship last longer than 6 months. I don't like being >> Yeah, I would say. judgy at all, but do
04:10:45
Sabrinayou think maybe if you held out a little longer that maybe >> Well, she's not revealing the body count, so I guess >> [laughter] >> No, I mean, there's been different
04:10:56
Sabrinascenarios where like maybe if I did stick around, but then it it just didn't turn out so well, so It's okay. Okay. Is it less than 20? I'm not going to
04:11:09
Brian Atlassay, Brian. Okay, so it's more than 20, got it. What about you? [laughter] Zero. What about you? One. Okay, Felicity. >> All right.
04:11:20
LauraUh that's cool. Is it the back question like how old were you? Oh, let's do that. Okay, that's not true though. That multiply by three like is that's not true. Well Thank you for sharing that.
04:11:32
Paige Hamilton>> Actually, that was the quickest answer she she gave, so we should believe it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we can do that. Uh so >> one. >> Th- Thank you. Appreciate your input.
04:11:41
FelicitySo, 17. 15, 16. Not applicable. Wait, 15, 16. 22.
04:11:53
SPEAKER_07What do we >> Age you lost your virginity? Oh, 16. Um I was 18. I think I was almost 21 because I thought I would be waiting till marriage, but Okay.
04:12:05
SPEAKER_0715. There it is. Good good [ __ ] Good [ __ ] Uh I'm scared. I have a teenage daughter. Where can I lock her up? You can't. [laughter] You just got to let her live her life. No, you can
04:12:18
Paige Hamiltondefinitely you know, make your house like a prison basically. Sounds good. >> How old's your daughter? 12 or something? Oh [ __ ] Yeah, be careful. Public schools Yikes.
04:12:30
Leana (Finland)>> The bus. I learned everything on the bus for sure. Send her to an all girls school. Oh, I would love one. I need that. I think actually girls would be smarter and even boys would be smarter if we still had girls schools and boys
04:12:43
Leana (Finland)schools. They still find their way. >> Yep. Especially with social media, too. Oh, yeah, that's why my daughter doesn't have a smartphone. Oh, that's good. >> And I'm the crazy parent because I'm the only one You know you're the good parent.
04:12:55
Maria PorchaYou know you're the good parent. I did Snapchat for the first time ever and I was like my children will never have this. Nope. Yeah. I think if you're just open with her and you're not like too restrictive, you let her know the reasons why. Like you lay it down like
04:13:07
Leana (Finland)because of like STDs, because of this, because of pregnancy. Like let her know those things. Make her scared. >> trying to protect her from. I hate that people are like don't make them scared.
04:13:17
Brian AtlasLike tell him like adults, they're not freaking adults. All right. Uh let's see. We have a couple more things from the questionnaire, although most of you actually
04:13:29
Brian Atlashaven't didn't really circle much on the questionnaire there. So, we are going to go. >> What's that? We are like agreeing to most of you. Like we're too Well, we'll get we'll get to that, but
04:13:42
Brian Atlasuh I'm sure we'll have more dis- disagreements. Uh so, let's do this. Uh women are the primary victims of war, not men. Victoria, you circled that one. Just want to confirm you do agree with
04:13:53
Victoria Bumathat. Uh yeah, I I think that, you know, women do suffer the aftermath of war. More so than men?
04:14:01
Leana (Finland)Um yes. It's worse to be left here. If you die, you will just die there, but you leave everybody to take care of your family and to
04:14:12
Victoria Bumamiss you, but still I think primarily the guy is the one who fights first. sacrifices his life. >> Yeah. What about all the men who come back with like PTSD? >> to go out and No, actually no, that is a
04:14:24
Victoria Bumavery good point. The veterans, I have the most respect for them, especially cuz my father himself, he was in the military. I'm a Marine, so um I would actually like to change my answer on that. I do I do think that,
04:14:37
Brian Atlasmen suffer a lot from war. From war. More Do they suffer more than women? Yes. Huh, okay. Well, I mean, you've already changed your opinion there. So, I mean, not much pushback I can give. Um we have some
04:14:49
SPEAKER_00chats coming through. Adzils donated $200. Would you rather listen to Michael Jackson than lose with a man or bear? Brian can do the moonwalk, so he would
04:15:00
SPEAKER_00take his chances. #freefelicity #freenick #michaeliskin. Yo, Adzils, thank you for the uh TTS, man. Appreciate it. Um
04:15:12
Brian AtlasI would rather listen to Yeah, I'd rather listen to MJ. With With a man or bear? [laughter] With a man, for sure. Um
04:15:25
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> It It's like uh Like what what is Is Michael Jackson, you know, like the snake charmers with the flutes? Like you put on some MJ and the bear is just like Yogi Bear just [ __ ] dancing.
04:15:37
Brian AtlasLike [ __ ] [ __ ] walking with you while you're you know, [ __ ] listening to MJ or some [ __ ] Oh my god. You know? >> It lulls them to sleep. Well, like the
04:15:48
LauraYeah, yeah. What What's snake charmers or what What's the term for lull It's the flute players. The the
04:15:58
Brian AtlasWhat There's like a term for a beast and you you uh pacify them through music. But there's a term for it. Does anybody
04:16:11
Brian Atlasknow what the term is? Chat. I don't think the girls are going to help me, so chat. I totally zoned out. >> Passify the term for pacifying
04:16:21
Brian Atlasa beast with music. What is the term? What? Whisper? No, that's not it. It's not whisper. To tame? Is it tame? Assuage the savage beast.
04:16:33
Brian AtlasLike that. I don't know. Whatever. I don't know. Thank you for that, Adzils. Appreciate it. There's definitely a term. Is Adzils the Michael Jackson guy? Or is that somebody else?
04:16:44
Brian AtlasIt's Adzils. He's the MJ guy. What What MJ guy? Every episode, he invokes Michael Jackson multi- for some reason. He wants to see you do the moonwalk and you haven't done it for
04:16:56
Brian Atlashim. I should do the the mic >> [laughter] >> pitched. Hee hee. Yeah. All right. I can send another TTS for that one. >> [laughter]
04:17:08
Brian Atlas>> I I pre-charged you, I guess. Techno Techno Trooper, if the economy can furlough Wait, who's that guy from way back who always brought up herpes? What was that guy's name?
04:17:18
Brian AtlasDo you remember that guy's name, Nick? Jay Butler. Right? He always Every TTS was about herpes. You're new You're So, Adzils, you're the new Jay Butler.
04:17:29
Brian AtlasIf the economy can furlough a million people overnight, I'll pull it back up. What makes you believe any partner will just provide without you contributing equal strength?
04:17:48
Brian AtlasOkay. Will just provide. That's like not even a question. What does that mean when you say equal strength though? What do equal strength? So like women? >> Equal strength? What are you talking about?
04:18:02
Laura>> [laughter] >> Like are we supposed to be buff? Like what? >> What? I think he means like he wants the woman to do the cooking, cleaning, taking care of children while the man is working, making the money. I I don't know.
04:18:15
Brian Atlas>> think that's what that's I think that's what that meant. It's my interpretation. >> I Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure, honestly. I wish I could read all of these. I need my glasses. >> Clarify Techno Trooper. Well, I'm saying
04:18:28
Brian Atlasit verbally, so I guess you can just listen with your ear balls. You? Well I'm just kidding. [laughter] That was so funny. Good one. Okay, Brian. Good job. Proud of you. I don't know, maybe
04:18:43
LauraI want to go What What were we talking about earlier about the humor or whatever? But anyway What about the humor? Why would you bring that up again? Come on. Cuz he doesn't He's not funny. He
04:18:53
Brian Atlasdoesn't want us to like funny guys. Sorry. Oh. See, that was funny. It actually like just wasn't It wasn't actually
04:19:06
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> It wasn't funny. Also, not to toot my own horn, but I think I'm You think you're funny? Yeah, I'm definitely Are you? I'm definitely funny.
04:19:16
Brian Atlas>> I see. Oh, okay, Miss Monotone over here who hasn't cracked Oh, I I I I'm You haven't cracked one joke the entire [ __ ] night. I'm nervous. Oh my god. Okay, great. You're nervous You're nervous in a relationship and you're not
04:19:29
Brian Atlasgoing to [ __ ] ever crack a joke until after you've been dating a guy for Oh, he's got to wait for your humor for 6 months. Okay. >> What? No. Okay. Good talk.
04:19:42
SPEAKER_00Azil's donated $200. Schputtler is a legend. He will be back hopefully. Nick, can we get a hee hee? >> [laughter]
04:19:52
Brian Atlas>> Oh. Mm. A tee hee? No. This is >> [laughter] >> That was like half. That was like half. I gave a [ __ ] half right there. >> [laughter]
04:20:05
Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] Oh my goodness. Yeah, true. All right. Uh let's see if there's anything else in the questionnaire here that's intriguing to me. What? Yes, they can. Yes, they can.
04:20:18
Brian AtlasUh hm. Men are more privileged in society than women than women, says Paige. Why is that? Um I guess I don't know from what I've
04:20:30
Paige Hamiltonbeen through. Like men sometimes don't listen to women, I think, until the women like make their point really clear or like have to speak up and be like, "Hey, listen to me." You know, I think
04:20:40
Paige Hamiltonmen just overall, you know, people see a man talking and they they listen. Um so that's is that like a
04:20:50
Paige Hamiltonoverarching privilege in totality? I know. Well, also too, I just you know, men are respected more. Men are treated better overall. Are they? Well, I don't think they were.
04:21:02
Victoria Buma>> think more is expected out of them and now they are seen to like for a man, it is expected that he has all of these things. He is expected he has a good job. He's patient. He's hard working. He's fit.
04:21:15
Paige Hamilton>> So yeah, so it's changed. Yeah, I've been out of the dating scene. Like we met before Tinder even existed, so you know. Okay, [clears throat] so I I'm open to that. Yeah, but I can I can definitely see where you're coming from
04:21:26
Paige Hamiltonwith that. Especially in New York. Yeah, it's very apparent. >> Yeah. And like I'm already short, so they're already looking down on me and I'm like, "Hello. Listen to me." You know. I mean, if I had pink hair too though, I
04:21:38
Brian Atlasfeel like I would be less respected. What? This is my superhero hair. That's what my kids call it. >> Look, and you seem more conservative and kind of reasonable, but I think people will make read read a book I've got
04:21:50
Brian Atlastattoos. And people read a judge a book by its cover, right? I No offense. I mean, I I saw your pre-show notes. Um you know, you have a very successful relationship. Well,
04:22:03
Brian AtlasWhere we You're married. And you have kids. You married You were virgins. >> we absolutely love are in love. I did have a You wrote a couple things in your pre-show notes where I did want to Yeah, yeah. I did want to nitpick a little bit, but
04:22:16
Brian Atlasum I guess you're kind of conservative, right? Like politically not so much, but >> Oh, are you more liberal? Uh I used to be a registered Democrat until recently.
04:22:26
Brian AtlasOh, okay. Now what are you? I am an independent. Okay. Got you. Okay. But overall Mom Donny You don't seem like you're a crazy
04:22:37
Paige Hamiltonwoke SJW feminist lady. No, I just used to be very like I am woman, hear me roar. And then I I learned over time that that kind of sucks. Good for you. >> [laughter]
04:22:52
Laura>> Yeah, just I guess the They were She was explaining what who Mom Donny was. He's a socialist in New York who's running for
04:23:02
Brian AtlasBut besides like you you assert that men are more respected than women. Men have more privilege than women. Is it aside from like your perception
04:23:13
Paige Hamiltonthat men receive more respect, is there anything else when it comes to privilege? I think men are just taken more seriously. Like in my circle, because a lot of the men are married and you know, in the church circle too, like
04:23:24
Brian Atlasa lot of times women want to speak up and they don't always get to. Well, what church are you going to? I am non-denominational. Like I said, like I Like right now >> that's This is actually
04:23:36
Paige Hamiltontheologically coherent because women can't be priests >> saying to be pastors or priests, but Well, women even just like in the circle, like after service or like even just out in the community. Like where I
04:23:48
Brian Atlaslive now, it's pretty rural. So like it's like men just don't take women seriously. It could be the pink hair, but Well, I mean, look, if from a religious perspective, and look, I I'm not a expert in theology, but my
04:24:00
Brian Atlasunderstanding is there's biblical scripture. Women are to be quiet in church. So from a if you're in a biblical marriage, in a biblical relationship
04:24:12
Paige Hamiltonyeah, you're not supposed to be telling the men what to do. I will say I am >> to defer to the men. >> I used to be like I said, uh she woman, hear me roar. And I have I would recently was disabled and I was diagnosed with ankylosing spondylitis. It's been really devastating. And it
04:24:25
Paige Hamiltonactually put me into this female role for the first time in my life. And I actually am like, "Wow, kind of almost thankful for getting sick." I know that sounds awful, but like I'm like, "Wow, like I'm actually getting to be a girl
04:24:36
Paige Hamiltonfor once." You know, and I am learning how it is to be in that role. I love the best. >> Where before I used to I used to always You know, it's probably like I would fight. I was angsty and I'd be like, "Why aren't you talking to me? You know." Mhm. Okay.
04:24:50
Brian AtlasUm A good man makes yourself. I don't know if it's actually the case that women are less respected in society. >> Actually, maybe it's when women are not like I don't want to say in their place,
04:25:02
Brian Atlasbut like not doing womenly roles, then maybe they're less respected. You know, so that's might be why I felt less respected. I mean, what I see what I see out there, I I believe that society is
04:25:13
Brian Atlasset up in a gynocentric way. So society is not if we're talking about patriarchy, we're getting into these sort of feminists
04:25:22
Brian Atlasuh descriptors or whatever. I I don't think society set up in a patriarch and how I guess how this would be described as society was built by men
04:25:33
Brian Atlasfor the benefit and comfort and privilege and for of men. I think society I I agree with the first part. Society was built by men for the benefit of women. All the modern comforts
04:25:46
Brian Atlaslike I I say this frequently on the show, if men could [ __ ] women in a cardboard box, we would. But you know, Mhm. that's not the case
04:25:57
Brian Atlasreally. Yeah. You're going to kill me. >> Women want the existence of a certain comfortable material reality. And so
04:26:07
Brian Atlaseverything that men do, I I honestly think on a micro and macro level, is for women. Yeah. Society has been set up to
04:26:17
Brian Atlasmake things comfortable for women. Uh and and men have always been like if you look at even going back to uh you know, ancient ancient history
04:26:29
Brian Atlasthat this idea would be like men would be sort of this defensive barrier to the external threats of like nature or other tribes. And men women were kept in the
04:26:41
Brian Atlasinterior and kept safe. And so men would go out and and fight against nature, fight against other tribes, fight against other men, keep the women in the interior, keep them safe.
04:26:54
Brian AtlasAnd if we're looking at and you know, this could be a tribe of 300 people. When I'm talking interior, it could be a small area of you know, a couple a couple square miles, even less. It could be a small little area.
04:27:07
Paige HamiltonAnd I don't know. It's just like >> admit I definitely have a bias and you're probably going to come at me for saying this, but like I was raised by a single mother for 9 years and you know, she had to be strong and she was so strong. And I admired that in her, so I
04:27:19
Paige Hamiltonfelt like I had to be like that, you know. When I don't need to be like that because thankfully I did meet the right person and things are going really well, so But you know, this idea that women are taken less seriously or they're less
04:27:32
Brian Atlasrespected, there's a there's a couple things there. I think I I actually think so women so you know, we're we're we'll look at both halves of the population, men and women.
04:27:43
Brian AtlasUh I think women have a really strong in-group bias for women. Mhm. So like there's the sisterhood, there's like women have uh
04:27:54
Brian Atlasthey they have an in group bias for themselves, for other women. Men don't have that related to men. So men don't have an in group bias. Like if
04:28:06
Brian Atlasif you're analyzing the the biases in general, men have a slight out group bias for women. >> Mhm. And the statistics and studies play this out.
04:28:18
Brian AtlasBut yeah, so men will have slight out group bias, women have slight or strong in group bias. >> Mhm. So this is why actually in some ways women are much seem to be actually
04:28:30
Brian Atlasbetter when it comes to organizing amongst themselves for female causes, whereas men don't have like nearly as strong of any sort of foundational base
04:28:41
Brian Atlasfor like male advocacy. Like obviously female advocacy feminism is dominant culturally, whereas like men's advocacy is completely on the fringe and completely just completely oppressed by
04:28:55
Leana (Finland)feminism. >> too, if men try to stand up for themselves, then it's like, "Oh, no, you're misogynistic." But is it true? We like to say that. Uh at least in Finland
04:29:05
Leana (Finland)the men will get the raise in their workplaces because the guys when you go to a man and you ask him like who's going to get the raise, there's always a guy saying like, "Oh,
04:29:16
Leana (Finland)Ben is a good guy, you give it to him." But if you go and talk to a woman, it's always they're putting each other down. It's not like, "Oh, Mhm. Ben is a good girl, we woman up in
04:29:27
Brian Atlasthe workplace. It's always going to be like, "Oh, not her." Mhm. True. Uh I mean, I think it can go both ways in the workplace. Google actually just uh
04:29:40
Brian AtlasI'm trying to recall the name of the lawsuit. Um a man filed a lawsuit against Google because he had an anti-discrimination lawsuit
04:29:52
Brian Atlasbecause apparently he ended up having a female boss and his the origination of his team was I think
04:30:01
Brian Atlasit's Meyer versus Google or something. She started like firing or getting rid of all the male team leads and just started hiring women. And he the
04:30:12
Brian Atlaslawsuit's super robust. There's plenty There's actually plenty of evidence that there's anti-male discrimination at least in his team at Google. Um Google did This that's more recent lawsuit. There
04:30:24
Brian Atlaswas one from a couple years ago where Google did like some self analysis of uh they were trying to investigate, "Oh, well, are we Is there a wage gap here?" They actually found
04:30:34
Brian Atlasthat they were overpaying the women at Google. Major corporation. So I don't know this um this idea that men get promoted they're more likely to be
04:30:45
Leana (Finland)promoted. I don't know if that's true. >> other men will always put other men up, but we uh women will put each other down. Uh
04:30:57
Paige HamiltonI don't know if that's true. Do you think the Google thing is like a one-time like a one instance thing or you think it's going to be more prevalent or it's going to come out more? I think I think a lot of major corporations
04:31:09
Brian Atlasfeminism has infiltrated. They have Some of them have walked some of this back, but all the DEI [ __ ] Mhm. Like all these companies all the major corporations had DEI diversity, equity,
04:31:21
Brian Atlasinclusion, or whatever. There were massive massive hiring incentives. Let's Let's bring in women. Let's Let's put Let's do affirmative action to put in more get diversity
04:31:33
Brian Atlashires, put in women. And actually it's funny, all this DEI [ __ ] it was mostly for white women. Mhm. It was It wasn't like brown men, it wasn't brown women. It was for [ __ ] white women.
04:31:44
Leana (Finland)>> that is a great example why men should mostly lead because women are Is it What's the word when you you plan things
04:31:55
Leana (Finland)to get the worst outcome? You're like pessimistic or or You mean vindictive? Yeah. >> That's what's the word. But men are really like straight word straightforward with everything. They
04:32:07
Brian Atlassay mostly what they think. Yeah. Yeah, I'll say my best friend in the whole wide world is a male, and I plan on keeping it that way. Same. So. And it's not my husband. My husband he's my best friend, too, but I mean, I look, there's I'll do the
04:32:20
Brian AtlasI'll do the sort of charitable thing here and say that like men definitely play office politics, too. Uh but I you know, I think there are
04:32:30
Brian Atlasobviously some differences between how men and women communicate. I think women not all women, women can definitely do this sort of like uh
04:32:41
Brian Atlasvendetta [ __ ] Like I think men often times tend to be less likely to hold grudges. Whereas like if you slide a woman, that shit's for life, son. That's some beef
04:32:53
Leana (Finland)you It's forever. >> I thought always that it's the other way around. I thought that men will like they won't tell it to you, but if somebody does something bad to you, you will freaking remember it till your grave.
04:33:05
Leana (Finland)>> it obviously there's a lot of variance, but I I think women will resort Bless you. They will use more energy to put you down and do [ __ ] to you if you do something bad. Why I think and this is I
04:33:17
Brian Atlasthink there's actually studies to back this up. Women are more likely to engage in reputation destruction. So women will do gossip, women women will do slander, women will like try to you know verbally ruin you. They'll try to
04:33:30
Brian Atlasverbally throw you under the bus. Again, I'm not saying all women do this, but it's it's a more common tactic that women will resort to. They'll try to ruin Yep. I not just They'll try to ruin another woman's reputation. They'll try
04:33:43
Brian Atlasto ruin a man's reputation. They'll gossip. More common among women. Men can do it, too, I guess, but but just to finish off this point you're saying that women aren't respected, right? They They're not taken as seriously. I
04:33:56
Brian Atlasdon't know like I really don't not sure if that's the case. I think that at least in terms of the treatment that women direct towards men I think at no other point in human history um
04:34:09
Brian Atlashave women enjoyed so much freedom, so much rights, so much privilege, so much comfort. Uh we technologically we really do live at uh
04:34:20
Brian Atlasthe best time, you know, best health care, best I was going to say best food, but some people might uh the best food option anyways.
04:34:31
Brian AtlasUh you have you can have if you want, you can go on DoorDash and every order every single kind of different culinary genre and have it all
04:34:41
Brian Atlasdelivered to you in 10 minutes. I mean, we live in a quite the time. But all of those things I listed, you know women having the most rights, the most comfort, most free more freedom than at
04:34:53
Brian Atlasany other point in human history mu um much of which or almost all of which I would say is a direct result of male benevolence ingenuity, labor, and genius.
04:35:08
Brian AtlasUm >> [laughter] >> But and simultaneously though at no other point in human history have women had so much hate, spite, contempt, and
04:35:19
Brian Atlasdisrespect and ungratefulness towards men as today. It's this it's it's it's odd to me though, but it's like
04:35:31
Brian Atlasagain, women have more freedoms, more rights, more privileges, more comfort than at any other time in human history. But at no other time in human history have women women hate men more than
04:35:42
Brian Atlasthey've ever hated men. Women are ungrateful, they're disrespectful. Uh and it's kind of this interesting dichotomy. It's because of the rise of
04:35:51
Laurafeminism and the lack of God in people. And I was so pleasantly surprised that all of you are Christians. I don't know if every single one of you, but I'm absolutely shocked. I mean
04:36:02
LauraI'm not exactly religious. >> she is [snorts] You are Christian, you're Christian. I mean That's beautiful. Amazing. Amazing. Oh my gosh, a lot of faith in this room and I love it, but I did want to argue with
04:36:13
Leana (Finland)somebody, so I'm a little disappointed. Then y'all y'all cool. I'll I'll argue then, I guess, but I guess moving on to the >> my girl boyfriend? So that's probably the next one. Who Uh I guess
04:36:25
Brian AtlasI guess uh Talk about politics. Yeah, let's fight. >> [clears throat] >> I think there was one more here from the questionnaire then I'll get into. I know you guys had some disagreements, we'll dive into those. Uh the final thing from
04:36:36
Brian Atlasthe questionnaire here was wrong for high body count men to prefer to date low body count virgin women. That was from you. I said it was wrong. Oh, uh it is from Victoria. Actually, I did
04:36:49
Brian Atlaswant to finish off You said women can be redeemed, right? Even if they've been >> Men can, too. Yeah, so I mean, I don't know I don't know if where we disagree or agree on this. My position is yeah, I mean, are you
04:37:01
Paige Hamiltonlooking at from a religious perspective? >> Um no, I don't think you have to be born again or saved, but I think like let's say you really got around when you were younger, but it's been 10 years and you haven't dated, you haven't slept around.
04:37:14
Brian AtlasLike that's a really big change. You don't just go backwards. Yeah, so I mean you you've obviously I I assume put in some work there. You've changed your behavior.
04:37:25
Brian AtlasHowever, even if it's been 10 years, I don't think a man is then obligated Oh, absolutely not. [laughter] No. I think a man could could still be within his right to say
04:37:37
Brian Atlas"Ooh, okay. Between the age of 18 and 20, you done [ __ ] 50 guys, but you been [ __ ] you've been celibate for 10 years? I think a guy is still within his right. >> think anybody has to date anybody for
04:37:49
Brian Atlasany reason. But but I think it's a it would I think certain preferences can be realistic unrealistic. My position would be you might say, well look, she's been celibate for 10 years.
04:38:00
Brian AtlasShe I think it's still realistic as a guy if a woman [ __ ] 50 dudes in her freshman first freshman year of college, he can still be like
04:38:12
Paige Hamiltonnah. No, yeah. Nah. Why do you want to know? What do you mean? I think it's important to know. Like Like if it comes out later in the relationship, like I think I said earlier, it's going to be bad. And you have a right to know that the person was I mean
04:38:26
Leana (Finland)>> promiscuous. Yeah, they were promiscuous and a lot comes with that. Especially when you're waiting till marriage, I understand it. But on the other hand Wait, are you you're Christian? Yeah. Uh what
04:38:36
Brian Atlas>> Christian, yeah. What denominate What's Do you go to church or Yeah, not regularly. I should, but yeah. >> You're wearing a Playboy >> [laughter]
04:38:48
Leana (Finland)>> I actually I was a weird child because everybody else wanted to be princesses and pop stars. I wanted to be a playmate and I wanted to be Anna Nicole Smith. But let me just put Yeah, Playboy Anna Nicole Smith. You don't know Anna Nicole Smith.
04:39:00
Brian Atlas>> see nudity as as like Hold on. What >> is a different thing. Playboy wasn't that before. Play Hold on. Playboy's been a nude nude Hold on. What? It's It's been a nude magazine for a
04:39:12
Brian Atlaslong time. It's still like a nude pornographic entity. I don't like the pornographic facts about it. But when you go >> that [ __ ] for the articles, okay. Well Yeah, you did before. Like earlier. Reading the articles.
04:39:25
Brian Atlas>> all the documentaries that have come out since he died? Like no. Christians cannot be in like in line with a pornographic commercial entity. They
04:39:36
Laurathey're completely conflicting. I think you are giving your money to it. You've had only fans girls on here that said they were Christians. Yeah, that's [ __ ] >> [laughter] >> But I think it's more She's just wearing
04:39:49
Leana (Finland)a Playboy sweatshirt. >> No, but you can't you can't be >> actually gifted to me. But still, I think it's more of the idea because when I used to look at Playboy girls and think they were cool, it was I was so
04:40:02
Leana (Finland)young it wasn't like because of the fact they were doing adult things. It was more of Like I wanted to be Pamela Anderson. I loved her. Okay. You wanted to [ __ ] a guy with
04:40:15
Leana (Finland)hepatitis? Totally different thing. I haven't seen >> you wanted to be [ __ ] Pamela Anderson. She [ __ ] Tommy Does he have hepatitis? I don't know. But you've heard her story. And it's actually when you think about it as an adult, it's it's really sad.
04:40:28
Leana (Finland)>> played, for sure. >> It It was literally really sad. She just wanted to find love and she was just a blue-eyed girl who was really young got the fame and everything.
04:40:39
Brian AtlasSo she goes and dates a a man who is, by the way, well known notorious for being a playboy. >> love with Tommy Uh she fell in love with a guy who was blasted in tattoos and
04:40:50
Brian Atlaswasn't a heavy metal He was in Mötley Crüe. These guys were definitely he they were definitely known for getting around. >> the reason why I think men should lead
04:41:00
Brian Atlasbecause women we have emotions and we go by them. Pamela Anderson was not naive to the fact that Tommy Oh my Come on, he was But they were in like committed relationship.
04:41:10
Leana (Finland)Let's say I can put myself into her shoes and feel empathy towards her. And what she was going through. >> Okay, what about it? What about it? I don't know what What's your point?
04:41:22
Brian AtlasAbout the empathy or about Pamela Anderson or about Playboy? What do you mean? No, I'm just I look, I guess my confusion here is Christian but like repping Playboy Like it'd be
04:41:34
Lauralike, I'm a Christian but check out my Quran. Like it doesn't make sense. No, not the same thing. >> I have vintage Playboy magazines and I'm a Christian. Does that make me not a Christian just
04:41:46
Laurabecause I'm hold I am holding on to something that isn't Do you Do you like look at the pornographic content in them? >> No, actually I look at some of the articles, some of It's just It's fun cuz
04:41:58
Laurait's vintage. And I love reading and looking at the comics. >> What denomination Christian are you? I Do you go to church? Sometimes. What? You don't even know your denomination? What's your denomination?
04:42:10
Paige HamiltonI don't know my denomination. I'm not identified. Well, like it does say like biblically that it'll be obvious that you're a Christian. So sometimes wearing that kind of stuff, it's not so obvious, you know?
04:42:21
Brian AtlasI don't judge people. The only one that can judge is God. Exactly. That's not true. But yeah. It should be true. Okay, we're humans. No, doesn't Wait wait wait Look, I'm not I'm not like a religious theological
04:42:34
Brian Atlasguy, but I don't know if it's Jesus Jesus or like a scripture. Doesn't it command you to have righteous judgment? On other Christians on other Christians. We're supposed to talk the truth.
04:42:47
Paige Hamilton>> On anybody? No, like so if somebody is like an outsider, they're not Christian, you're supposed to have a lot more love and patience with them because they don't know what they're doing. They haven't read the Bible. They don't claim to be Christian. They're not claiming to be something they're not. But when you
04:43:00
Paige Hamiltonare Christian and you see your brother or sister in Christ doing something that they shouldn't be, you are supposed to come with them come to them lovingly, kindly, and just share what you believe
04:43:09
Brian Atlasis the truth. And wait, hold on. Didn't Jesus [ __ ] throw over the table? Didn't he have a whip or something? Or I don't know the exact details. Like the the the money lenders or
04:43:21
Brian Atlassomething. I don't know the all Look, I'm not I don't know all the details or whatever. >> to turn away from the sin, then yeah, you're supposed to come at them. I love Bunny XO. She's done a lot of stuff and
04:43:32
Brian Atlasshe is a Christian. >> I I I honestly if a girl wears a Playboy sweater, I don't hoodie, I don't really care. But if you tell me you're Christian, then I'm kind of like, wait, that's kind
04:43:43
Leana (Finland)of confusing. Does that make sense? I get it, but on the other hand, no, it doesn't make sense. But Playboy is a
04:43:51
Victoria Bumapornographic commercial entity. Yeah, on that hand it makes sense. But There's a reason why I'm sorry, but there's a reason why you know, all Christians they always say
04:44:04
Victoria Bumathis one thing. They say, "Forgive them, Father, for they don't know." I don't blame you for wearing that. I know that I myself I'm a sinner. I do a lot of things I shouldn't be doing. You know, I think we as Christians also need to be striving to be better and closer to God
04:44:16
Victoria Bumaand love God more than our sin. Are Is this wearing this necessarily a sin? No. There are far worse I mean, there's people shooting and killing each other out there. Um but I think what everyone is just trying to tell you is that it is The
04:44:28
Victoria Bumafirst step is awareness because if we let us ourselves get by with small little things, eventually it's going to grow and grow and grow. Am I going to say that Am I saying that you're going to go out and do something really really dumb? No. But I think it's just more of
04:44:40
Brian Atlasthe accountability in the sense. But Look, I It's a cool sweatshirt. It looks super cute. Look, it's it's super minor. >> It is super minor, but it did catch my attention. It's >> Yeah. a little bit.
04:44:53
Leana (Finland)But I kind of like to think about things in a way like Jesus said that children come to me because the kingdom of heaven is like them. You show this to a child and they will just see a cute bunny.
04:45:06
Leana (Finland)Uh I would get it if I would go around with a [ __ ] on my shirt, but that's like a different thing. I think I'd have a bigger problem if you bought it cuz then you're giving money to that. Adults
04:45:16
Brian Atlasknow what you're signaling. And so the the it wouldn't be strictly restricted to the interpretation of what Yeah, I agree a a child probably isn't
04:45:27
Brian Atlasfamiliar with the logo of Playboy. But there's other people in the world that aren't children that are going to make an assessment of what you're wearing. Honestly, it's really minor.
04:45:38
Leana (Finland)>> then I have like many other things of it. I used to love the logo even as a kid. I don't blame It's a cute freaking bunny. But afterwards a Christian girl
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Brian Atlaswho has a Playboy bunny tattoo Yeah. That's confusing. >> know one, but yeah. But that's confusing. >> true. It's true. >> A girl who has like a if she has a necklace, but she's a Christian, but
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Leana (Finland)she's got a Playboy bunny necklace. I have tattoos. Even that is a problem, to be honest, like as a Christian. Perhaps, but I'm just focused on the Playboy bunny thing, you know? So you took the one that I can take it off and like get
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Paige Hamiltonrid of. But the tattoo is not that bad. I did a lot of like reading before I got my tattoos cuz I took it so seriously and I don't really think tattoos are that bad. Just saying, but
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SPEAKER_00Uh well, I'm a government of Canada. Pasty George donated $200.04. >> Thank you, man. To add to what Brian just said, that is why many Western men
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SPEAKER_00are seeking traditional non-feministic women from other countries who are respectful, feminine, and don't have a high body count. Mm. I think we're talking about like finishing up the body count thing. Oh
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Brian Atlasyeah, I think we No, we already did. I mean, basically my position is Yeah, they the women can definitely redeem themselves, but I don't think men, even if they have redeemed themselves, a man can still look at a
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Brian Atlaswoman's past even if she's completely changed from that past and be like And that's her choice. >> don't want anything to do with that. >> I think he should be able to have that choice. >> me a look like you disagree. No?
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Laura>> [laughter] >> Now I can't even have a look? I can't I can't look. You I don't know if you do agree, you disagree, like >> I My face is just too expressive. Just continue, please. So you you're fine with my position then. Yes, totally. I
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Lauradon't know. I I think she can wear I can think people can wear whatever [clears throat] the hell they want. She doesn't look like a hooker, so I'm fine with it. Um if she was, I would make a different judgment. The the bunny sweatshirt, you
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Brian Atlasknow, I know it's Playboy. I know what it is, but I mean again, I like I'm it's just something I noticed. I agree with you. It's pretty minor, but it is a little It is a little bit
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Brian Atlas>> is another thing. It is a little bit like is it in line with Christianity? Probably not, but
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Brian Atlaswhatever. I It's super minor. Like it's a it's a nitpick. Yeah. Okay. All right, we're going to get into uh let's see if there No, I think uh
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Paige Hamilton>> You got to nitpick this crew because we're all pretty cool. So [laughter] so super cool. >> waited a little too long for Nick to let us in, so we got to know each other downstairs. >> Yeah, we all agreed we were going to be really agreeable with each other and
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Brian Atlasyou. >> Love it. Okay. Um >> [laughter] >> here, we're going to get into some of the pre-show notes here. So, we are going to do um Actually here, let's just do this.
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Brian AtlasAsmongold TV ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. Thank you, Zach. Appreciate that. Uh rate your own looks scale of 1 to 10
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Brian Atlascan't pick seven. 10. 10? Okay. Tilt your mic down a little bit. What about you? Six. Okay. >> What? I think six. There's always room
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Paige Hamiltonfor improvement. All right. You're six. Go ahead. Seven and a half. >> You can't uh six or eight. If you have to pick one. Six. Six. Okay. My husband said on the way here to say
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Brian Atlassolid eight, but I'm going to say five. Okay. I say five. Five. Three. Oh my god. Both of you just give the same answers.
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Paige HamiltonOkay, I give myself a five. All right. Um okay, pretty wow, pretty reasonable except for you. >> [laughter] >> You got to have confidence. So Maria, since we have the most uh She's literally a model with like campaigns
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Maria Porchaand stuff though. >> Yep. You just got to have confidence. >> Got to have confidence. Do you do you think these >> models that are not 10. >> women be more confident, Maria? >> Yes. They're gorgeous. They all have
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Brian Atlastheir own attributes like >> Maria. Yes. What? I want her to go around the table and rate us. We're not all 10. >> you asking, Maria? Come on. Did I say they're all 10? I said no. I mean Here, do this. Just
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Brian Atlas[laughter] you and me. Do this. >> They can go higher than the numbers they said. >> this. Maria, do this. They can go higher. >> Maria. >> No, what they said. >> Maria Gertrude I'm not going to say your last name. Gertrude. Okay.
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Brian Atlas>> That's your middle name is Gertrude. Maria Gertrude uh Smith. Do [laughter] this. Okay, what do I Put the blinders up. Okay, you can tell me the truth.
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Brian AtlasOn who? The [ __ ] whole panel. The whole panel? >> Yeah, tell me the Felicity? >> [ __ ] whisper. Three. She's at a three? I was I said six. I was just being a troll. >> low. Um
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Maria PorchaOkay. Uh well, do you think everybody should just say I'm a 10? Um if they're confident within themselves, why not? I'm pretty confident I'm a
04:50:42
Victoria BumaWait, question. Um >> Because I'm sorry. Question for you then just Maria. [laughter] >> Yes, I'm a 10.
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Brian AtlasDo you think it So that's your own rating. Do you think it changes like you're in a room with a thousand men. What do you think the average would be
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Maria Porchaif they were rating you? Um typically I attract from my history all races. Like they they're going to be trying to say the
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Maria Porchabest of the best to get with me, so No, but yeah, they're not trying to hit. And even if they're not, they're still going to probably say eight and up, I would assume.
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Maria PorchaBut what do you think the average rating would be? Eight. Okay, eight. So less than 10. Why is that? Why do you say that? >> mean if you're putting me in a room full of like many different people with
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Brian Atlasdifferent different >> cross section of Yeah. Yeah, like There there's some black people, some white people, some blah blah blah. >> blondes, if they like different looks, you know. >> Sure.
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Brian AtlasOkay. Uh does it change like uh let's just say it's I mean you brought it about made it about race. Uh white guys. What do what's the average rating then? Um I would say
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Maria Porcha>> versus black guys, I guess. I'm curious. Uh Do the white guys I don't know. Whatever. I'll just I would say it's about yeah, still the same like eight >> The both of white and the Asian >> whatever you want
04:52:09
Maria Porcha>> guys. >> Yeah. How do you do with the Indians though? Um they would probably say two similar rating because I'm brown, so Got you. All right, there
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Brian Atlasyou go. Um Let's see. Uh tell me Can you tell me a girl that you think is a 10? Like a famous girl out there. >> Famous girl right now. >> can think of two or three, feel free.
04:52:34
Maria PorchaA white girl, a black girl, and a uh Asian girl, I guess. I guess Beyoncé, we all know that. Um Sabrina Carpenter. >> Sabrina Carpenter. Um Yeah, [ __ ] then.
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Maria Porcha>> [screaming] >> I disagree. Disagree? Um Ariana Grande was somewhat before. I don't know what's going on now.
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Laura>> eyebrow thing, yeah. Very The skinny Yeah, the 70 lb body. Yeah. Before all that. I mean she's she's always been pretty trim. Oh yeah, she was a tiny girl. Yeah, you know,