35 w/ CRAZY Standards?! REFUSES TO SETTLE?! Obese Girl WILL NOT Date Obese Man?! | Dating Talk #267
Date: 2025-11-03
Duration: 8h 07m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Victoria Buma(guest)
SPEAKER_04Felicity(host)
SPEAKER_05Sabrina(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Leana (Finland)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_10Laura(guest)
SPEAKER_11Paige Hamilton(guest)
SPEAKER_12Maria Porcha(guest)
Key Moments
00:05:27
IntroAll 7 guests + Felicity introduce themselves
00:15:36
ControversyVictoria's 'Hitler always peaked my interest' TikTok played and discussed
“Hitler always peaked my interest okay.”
00:21:53
RelationshipFull relationship status round-table
00:32:15
Key MomentVictoria reveals she just started dating Noah (a Marine fan of the show) literally yesterday. He sends $200 super chat.
01:02:00
ControversyBrian confronts Sabrina about expecting fit men while being ~40% body fat herself
01:47:40
ControversyLaura openly admits to being 'slightly misogynistic' toward women
02:41:28
ControversyMaria names Europe, America, Asia as countries (all wrong), then Tokyo, Paris
02:44:05
ControversySabrina cannot name the continent she lives on for several agonizing minutes
05:24:55
Key MomentBrian expects women to do his laundry first visit, sparking show's biggest debate
06:00:01
QuoteVictoria: 'If willing to sleep with a man, should be okay folding his laundry'
06:27:00
Key MomentBrian counsels Paige about being mouthy to husband, quotes Proverbs 21:19
07:51:00
AgreementEvery woman chooses to give up voting over being subject to military draft
Topics Discussed
00:05:27
Guest Introductions
Maria (27, model/psych student from LA), Leana (36, Finnish mechanic born in Jerusalem), Victoria (19, controversial social media), Laura (31, unemployed Calabasas), Paige (32, married mother from NY), Sabrina (35, data analyst), Sophia (18, history student).
00:15:31
Victoria's Hitler Video
Victoria's TikTok about Hitler 'peaking her interest' played. She explains she studies historical figures. Leana (born in Jerusalem, Jewish) says she wasn't offended.
00:21:53
Relationship Status Round
Maria single 2 years. Leana in 7-year relationship. Victoria just started dating Noah yesterday. Laura single 4 years. Paige married 10 years (both virgins). Sabrina never >6 months. Sophia never dated.
00:58:18
Sabrina's High Expectations Debate
Sabrina won't date obese men despite being ~40% body fat herself. Brian challenges the double standard. Extended debate about asymmetry in attraction.
01:16:08
Laura's Anti-Wealth Stance
Laura finds extreme wealth 'gross' and 'disgusting.' Believes money corrupts people. Wants to live on a ranch in Texas.
01:47:40
Laura's Self-Described Misogyny
Laura admits to being 'slightly misogynistic.' Believes men are stronger, smarter, faster. Critiques the Whatever podcast.
02:41:28
Felicity's Trivia - Countries and Continents
Maria names Europe, Asia, Tokyo as countries. Sabrina cannot name the continent she lives on for several painful minutes.
02:50:20
Minimum Income Requirements
Maria: $300K. Leana: average. Victoria: $100-150K. Laura: no minimum. Paige: $85K. Sabrina: $80K. Sophia: $100K.
02:57:00
Man vs Bear Question
All women ultimately say man. Paige hesitates due to trust issues from absent father.
04:08:15
Body Count Reveal
Maria <5. Victoria 1 (one non-consensual). Laura refuses (implied 20+). Sophia 0. Paige 1 (husband only). Sabrina refuses.
04:48:02
Self-Rating Looks
Maria 10, Leana 6, Victoria 6, Laura 6, Paige 5, Sabrina 5, Sophia 3-5. AI age/gender filters shown.
05:24:55
The Laundry Debate
Major debate: should women do a man's laundry first visit? Victoria: 'if willing to sleep with him, should fold his laundry.' Laura eventually concedes after boyfriend/girlfriend.
06:06:01
The Bow Expectation
Brian shows ex bowing video. Most initially refuse but say yes for 'the perfect man.'
06:25:16
Paige's Marriage Advice
Brian reads Paige's notes about being mouthy to husband Skyler. Quotes Proverbs 21:19. Gives Skyler Hamlet quote as rhetorical weapon.
06:55:00
Brian's Anti-Marriage Stance
Brian refuses to marry: divorce risk, alimony, 80% of divorces initiated by women. Would only marry a billionaire woman. Would be stay-at-home dad.
07:46:00
Women and the Draft
All women choose to give up voting rights rather than be subject to military draft.
Transcript
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04:53:12
Brian Atlasshe's petite woman. >> was a teenager, she was a little curvier. Oh yeah, she did lose some of the weight, yeah. Okay. Uh tell me a guy who's a 10. A guy? Um what's his name? Denzel. No, not Denzel. Not Denzel. What
04:53:25
Maria Porchathe [ __ ] >> Taylor Lautner, but who's that other one right now? The one off Euphoria. The what's his name? Oh, the guy who plays Nate Jacobs. Yeah, Jacob. >> Can you Google these? >> Jacob Elordi. Um Taylor Lautner, this girl was a Twilight fan.
04:53:39
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> This girl had a poster >> That's the first that came to mind. Um weren't you like 10 when that movie came out? >> Definitely in our range. >> [laughter] >> Something like
04:53:52
Brian AtlasYou had a little crush on Taylor. Okay. It's cute. Uh do you have any of those, Nick?
04:53:59
Brian AtlasUh yeah, well, I mean these These are not honestly those are not the most flattering >> I'm not into him. Never was. Never? >> He never was my guy. Of course Nick wants to look at the shirtless
04:54:14
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> Goes straight to it. A little sus there, Nick. Um all right, we get the idea. Um Okay, and uh do you think Megan Fox is a 10? When she was younger, maybe.
04:54:26
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, yeah, she's gorgeous. Okay, so just to be just so I understand correctly, uh you Megan Fox Both 10. >> Okay.
04:54:37
Brian AtlasAll right. Um do you think you're Do you think you when you say you're a 10, are you Are there any women who are more beautiful than you? Or are you like You're at You're at the peak, they're at
04:54:50
Maria Porchathe peak. You're just as good-looking as you can be? >> I can I can stand next to the best of the best >> woman and change my appearance, makeup, you know, change hair, like alter things.
04:55:03
Maria PorchaOkay. So there's no women in the world that are more beautiful than you. No, no. Oh, no, I wouldn't say that, but Who's Who's a woman who's more beautiful than you? I don't know. >> Beyoncé? I mean, she's older now, so like yeah,
04:55:15
Brian Atlasas far as in youth right now? >> What's young? I don't know. 20-year-old Beyoncé, Destiny's Child, whatever. Was she better-looking? I think I could stand next to her like
04:55:26
Brian AtlasStand next to her. I'm not really a Beyoncé fan to be honest, so I don't know. No. Um But this You said there there are some women who are more beautiful than you
04:55:38
Maria Porchafrom your perspective. It's just perspective-based, really. Who's more beautiful >> even know. There'd be girls from other countries like maybe like some Brazilian girls >> Like Adriana Lima. Was >> Exactly, yeah.
04:55:49
Maria Porcha>> She would yes, she's But you're a 10. She's a 10. How could you guys be >> I mean, but we look different though. Yeah, but you you say she's better-looking than you. I mean, in her
04:56:00
Maria Porchaher prime, yeah. Yeah. So sh but she was a 10 in her prime? Yeah. But you're not as good-looking as Um I would say I mean, in a different way. >> 9.8? >> No, I don't know. I don't know. That's
04:56:12
Brian Atlasjust like Um up to debate, but And I'm trying to think if there's any other questions on on that. Uh
04:56:22
Brian AtlasHm. Um Okay, that's pretty much it. Uh do you think you'll be better-looking in 10 years' time? Starting with you. >> uh At 37. I think I'll still look look
04:56:35
Brian Atlasyoung. Will you be better-looking than you currently look now? Probably not. Okay, and then uh you're 27. Were you better-looking at 18 or better-looking now? I think
04:56:46
Brian Atlasbetter-looking now. 36, better at 46, better-looking 46. Probably not. And then you're 36,
04:56:54
Victoria Bumabetter-looking at 26 or better now? Better at 26. Okay. 19, better-looking at 29. Uh I honestly feel like I'm going to
04:57:05
Victoria Bumalook the same. My mom, she looks the exact same from when she was 18 years old. So it's in the Asian genes. >> Okay. Uh what about 39? 39, I'll probably be getting a little bit old, some wrinkles,
04:57:19
Victoria Bumamaybe a little >> So better-looking, the same, worse. >> I honestly think I'm going to be the same. My mom is like 50 um 50, she still looks the same. I'm not even joking. >> married or Yeah, she's married to my
04:57:30
Brian Atlasfather. >> Yes, mhm. I
05:00:16
Laurawas just asking for Nick cuz >> [laughter]
05:00:24
Maria Porcha[laughter] >> All right It will not be that Okay next
05:00:40
SPEAKER_07AI Okay I'm having a midlife crisis already >> [laughter] >> Next Oh
05:00:50
Brian AtlasDon't do that >> [laughter] >> Okay Not a not a fan of this I don't know all right next
05:01:04
FelicityWhat? No Oh Come on What? Actually that's pretty I think [laughter] that's pretty accurate to be honest
05:01:17
LauraThat's what he says to be mean when it's really bad >> I'm not trying to no I think that's actually kind of reasonable Oh God
05:01:29
Brian AtlasI think that's I don't know AI isn't real Like you're 31 now the middle one is like 50 51? Maybe Maybe six
05:01:41
LauraThe far one is that age six Nah maybe You should see my mom she's 62 she looks nothing like that at all All right well there you go next
05:01:53
Paige HamiltonNo no no My mom has great skin I'll say that my mom and I love her but I won't no that's not good You look like you would work at a prison and [laughter] smoke like three packs a
05:02:05
Lauraday Next Oh no No That's bad No you look cute you look like a
05:02:17
Brian Atlascute teacher This is what the future [laughter] holds next He's cute Oh sweet little lady
05:02:28
Laura>> [laughter] >> You're so much prettier than that
05:02:34
Felicity>> [laughter] >> All right next That's not Santa Yeah I was thinking the same thing Looks like a nose Your nose never stops
05:02:44
Brian Atlasgrowing so Not that big Okay Felicity so I like the other old one that they usually do I don't know the the Santa Claus one
05:02:56
Brian Atlasand then we've changed all of your genders Oh So the question is would you date the male version of you? That was a little weird gesture there
05:03:09
Maria Porchaokay Boom >> [screaming] >> Okay he looks kind of fine Yeah I would You date him? Yeah Okay all right is he
05:03:21
Maria Porchaa 10? I would say he like a nine A nine okay Do you like the guy? I don't know how tall he is I like I love the hair I'm loving the hair That's not bad there's good suave Like full thick head of hair
05:03:34
Brian Atlasyou know >> [laughter] >> That's hilarious Rico suave did he look good? Literally yes So you would date him? You would date him? That's a good song by the way >> [clears throat] >> okay next
05:03:46
FelicityOkay Wait put it back up Yeah I'll put it back Okay Yeah better as a dude >> [laughter] >> Would you if you were single would you date that guy?
05:03:59
SPEAKER_07I'm wearing some blondes and blue eyes and green eyes but Yeah not bad I wouldn't say no Okay Next
05:04:10
Victoria Buma>> [laughter] >> Wow
05:04:15
Victoria BumaHold hold on So look I'm going to do a trigger warning >> [laughter] >> I'm about to pull it back up That's fair that's fair Just warning you
05:04:26
Victoria BumaOh God >> [laughter] >> Holy [ __ ] So the question is They shrunk his head
05:04:39
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> Would you date the male version of you? No I wouldn't >> [laughter] >> Is that Noah? No
05:04:51
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> Wait is your boyfriend is he white guy white guy? Question for you have you dated an Asian guy? Actually no No I haven't
05:05:01
Victoria Buma>> Only only white guys or White and the other one he was mixed so he was white and black Okay mixed mixed race got you Like 50/50 or something well I don't
05:05:14
Brian Atlasknow whatever doesn't Light skin light skin um No no Asian guys? No actually Are you Vietnamese or sorry
05:05:26
Brian AtlasI know you're half you're half Moroccan and then half Taiwanese Taiwanese okay Uh No Filipinos in there? No Vietnamese? No Cambodian?
05:05:39
Victoria BumaMhm Laos? [clears throat] Mongolian? I don't think so I do know my my grandfather he migrated from China to Taiwan so I don't
05:05:50
Brian Atlasknow if that maybe there might be some mixing in Oh no I mean have you dated a guy who's any of those uh No Asian guys? Nope What would you? Or are you I I know some
05:06:02
Brian AtlasI've heard from some Asian women and they say you know I'm not I'm not attracted to Asian guys they say that Are you are you into Asian guys?
05:06:15
Victoria BumaI mean I know myself better there's been many times I said I wouldn't date a certain race and then actually both races I said that I wouldn't date I found myself in so
05:06:27
Victoria Bumanow I'm like no I don't think and I don't mean that in a racist way Sure I get that But no if yeah I don't see myself not dating an Asian guy so But so far you you
05:06:40
Brian Atlashaven't Okay have you ever like rejected an Asian guy? Yes Okay Next one por favor wait show us Sorry one last time
05:06:54
Victoria BumaOne last time You know what maybe that means I'm meant to be a woman guys
05:07:01
Brian AtlasYeah yeah yeah >> [laughter] >> Next
05:07:07
Brian AtlasOh Yikes Oh Wait he's not He looks Wait look he Does he look finished to you? Yeah He looks German or something No he looks
05:07:18
Brian AtlasWhat what's the they're no longer a species or what? Yeah Neanderthal a little Neanderthal to
05:07:28
Brian Atlasbe honest. What? A little Neanderthal. >> Those eyes are so stunning. >> You're stunning. Thanks, Brian. >> But the male version. What? It's the male version. We can
05:07:40
Brian AtlasKind of looks like PewDiePie. By the way, aren't like Neanderthals, like the more Neanderthal DNA you have, aren't you higher IQ or something? I don't know. It's
05:07:50
Brian Atlas>> I think you're No, I think you're higher IQ if you have more Neanderthal. Right? >> Is it? >> [laughter] >> Are you stronger? Are you like stronger?
05:08:02
FelicityThey were like more caveman and like bigger. Okay. Well, I stand corrected. >> [laughter] >> I stand corrected. I don't think you look like a Neanderthal. >> Some people are saying I'm correct.
05:08:17
Brian AtlasThank you. >> I don't know. Whatever. Apparently, Genghis Khan, that motherfucker's got a lot of DNA all over the place. Um Would you date the male version of you? No.
05:08:29
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> Why not? Not into it. You don't like white men? I You don't have a track record of dating white men? >> them. Do you But you date white men?
05:08:42
Brian AtlasYeah. >> Yeah. Sure. I don't date anybody at the moment, so >> Well, your last boyfriend, was he white guy? No. Boyfriend before that, was he a white
05:08:54
Lauraguy? Mhm. Last boyfriend was what? Mexican. Okay. Quick question for you. Last guy you dated, what did he do for work?
05:09:06
Brian AtlasMy last boyfriend or the last guy I went on a date with? Uh dated. Not date. Dated. Okay, so >> Cuz like you could go on a one date with a guy and you're not feeling him.
05:09:19
Laura>> The last person I was dating >> Yeah. was was a restaurant manager. Chick-fil-A? No. [laughter]
05:09:31
LauraOh, sorry. Is that insulting? >> No, it's just funny that you're guessing a random fast food restaurant. I don't eat fast food, actually. I haven't eaten it since I was 17. >> Hey, those those Chick-fil-A managers do
05:09:43
Brian Atlaswell for themselves. >> Okay, they can. Yeah, sure. Wow. >> Wait, was it Mastros? No. >> [laughter] >> Wait, so you you had like two longer-term boyfriends, right? Well, no.
05:09:55
LauraI mean, not long, but yes, a 3 and 1/2 year and a 5-month, 4 and 1/2, 5. The 3 and 1/2 year boyfriend, just what did he do for work? When I met him, I told you he worked at a car wash. >> And then the other long-term
05:10:09
Brian Atlas>> he was >> He's doing well. Uh the other the other long-term one that you had, what did he do for work? >> Um he actually didn't really have a job. He
05:10:20
Brian Atlas>> Okay. What >> stuff we talked about checks out He was a stock >> He day traded, actually. Did he do well?
05:10:32
LauraHe did Yeah. How dare you date somebody who does well? >> Oh my gosh, that's not it. Not having a requirement on income is not abnormal. Like I don't have any
05:10:43
Laurafriends that have Oh, they need to make this much. I I mean Maybe in their head they do, but I've never I've never heard of people with a a requirement for that. And I think it's absolutely ridiculous. >> Well, I don't think it has to be a
05:10:56
Brian Atlasprecise requirement for a precise number, but I think there's a general tendency for women to have a generalized preference for men who are successful. Define successful.
05:11:09
LauraThank you. Uh financially successful, career successful. >> but like there's there's so much other success in life. >> Yeah, I agree. >> And I think not being addicted to drugs,
05:11:20
Lauranot being on prescription pills, not, you know, not >> There's a few other things I would say. Um not voting for Joe Biden. I think those things are success. All right. >> [laughter] >> There's a lot of
05:11:33
Felicity>> The question is not asked so much, but I think it's thought about like Wait, I think if you were to ask your friends the question, they would have a number. >> I I genuinely don't agree with that. The few girlfriends I do have don't have
05:11:47
Brian AtlasThey don't have a number. >> have to be high. >> 30-year-old girlfriends are fine dating a guy who flips burgers at McDonald's. I don't think that's the dream for most 30-year-olds.
05:11:59
Brian Atlas>> food every time? >> because because look, the reality is I'm not trying to knock a guys who work fast food. It's working retail or working a restaurant job. It's it's stressful.
05:12:11
Brian AtlasIt's it's hard work, you know, you're on your feet. Uh and it's not I'm not frowning upon them, but it is the reality, I think. And they would probably be honest about it, too. Most
05:12:22
Brian AtlasMost women are not going to be like super stoked to date a cashier at McDonald's. That's not a knock on men who are cashiers at McDonald's. That's just a reality.
05:12:33
Laura>> might be true, and that's that might be due to a lower IQ. Maybe the people that I mean, if you're working as a cashier at McDonald's when you're 30, it's you know. Uh but I have a really good
05:12:45
Laurafriend who just got married to a man who didn't have a job for 9 months. She She like was fine with it, and they just got married. And he got a job like a month before they got married.
05:12:57
LauraSo, he didn't have an income. They're 30, you know? It's The The company I keep is not holding income standards for their partners. So, not everybody out there is
05:13:08
Brian Atlas>> Look, I don't think it's wrong for a woman who's in her 30s to like have some expectation that I'm not saying the that the guy has
05:13:18
Brian Atlasto be like a millionaire or billionaire, but that the guy is taking care of himself and has has a job, and I I don't think it's wrong for a woman to want that. But anyways, we already talked
05:13:29
Lauraabout that a bunch. So, I'm going to >> income standard is for for your partner. Don't care. Zero. Okay, well But he's a guy. >> Men and women are different. We are. We are. We are very different.
05:13:41
Brian Atlas>> Men don't care. If you are a woman, what would it be? If I was a woman? Do we have the gender swap? Just show them the gender >> [laughter] >> Just skip ahead, then we'll go back to
05:13:52
Brian AtlasWe need to finish that off, but Uh if I was her Look, here's my read on that chick, on Briana. She didn't look pretty. She's a kind of
05:14:04
Brian AtlasShe's a little bratty. She lives in New York City, and she wants a guy who makes $400,000 a year. That's [ __ ] Briana. We love that for her. She She wants a
05:14:14
Felicityguy who makes $400,000 >> are so blue. Has anyone ever noticed how blue Brian's eyes are? No. >> Look at him. Look at his eyes. What if that girl didn't change didn't change in
05:14:26
Lauraage? She just stayed young. >> But did did you see that? They We did show you Oh my Your age No, we female >> Are you Are you okay?
05:14:36
Brian Atlas>> age the opposite gender. We We did show my age one. No, of the girl. And now it's a gender swap. >> Oh, that's true. Okay, you're right. Never mind. Should we It's not We're not
05:14:48
Brian Atlasaging. It's a gender swap. 36. They're showing it with with hair, without it. Never mind. Yeah, women typically don't grow beards. >> I know. I was
05:14:58
Felicity>> Briana did not look 36. She looked younger.
05:15:05
Brian AtlasAnyways, whatever. Let's go back to it. Pull up the rest. Are you ready?
05:15:13
Laura>> Unkempt guy. Oh, okay. I don't hate it. Wait, everyone's heating it up. Oh, wow. Okay. He holds his weight well. >> [laughter] >> The girls are gooning here. Yeah.
05:15:25
Paige Hamilton>> Seems to hear and He looks like intellectual. He's definitely wearing lipstick. He looks like a mugshot for an Antifa guy. [laughter] Oh my gosh, not into I think he looks cool. Thank you. >> Next.
05:15:37
Brian AtlasOh. With the facial hair, he's cute. >> Uh so, would you Would you date the male version of you? He kind of looks like you a little bit. What?
05:15:49
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> The hair. No. Uh Okay, regardless of who he looks like, would you date him? Probably, yes. Yeah. >> Probably, yes. Yeah, I would. All right,
05:16:00
Sophianext. Mm. Would you date the male version of you? I mean, he's cute. He kind of looks gay, though.
05:16:12
SophiaHe looks gay. Definitely, yeah. A little feminine. Yeah, it's the head tilt. It's the head tilt? It could be the head tilt, the glasses. Okay, whoever's doing these, can you guys like exorcism this guy tonight?
05:16:26
SPEAKER_00I guess. >> [laughter] >> Um A message from the government of Canada. >> the next. Pasty George donated $200.04. Therefore, hold on. Some people,
05:16:39
SPEAKER_00especially young adults, work low-wage jobs despite having college and university degrees. Uh there's a lot of Yeah. bachelor degrees working
05:16:50
Victoria BumaMhm. working at restaurants. Because it's not about at the end of the day what you learned. It's about what you actually experienced. That's something I found out. Yeah. >> Um you know, I I've talked about a
05:17:02
Victoria Bumalittle bit earlier, not to get too into the subject, but I um didn't finish high school because of some financial issues our family was having, but um you know,
05:17:12
Victoria BumaI've gone through so much farther in life. Um not to say that I'm doing the best right now. I definitely can do better, but I know kids, not to bash on them, either, but I know kids in college they're just learning absolutely
05:17:24
Victoria Bumanothing. They're getting [ __ ] faced every weekend. So, it's really not about the degree at the end. So. Sorry, I wasn't laughing at you. I was laughing at Felicity. Yeah. Just being weird. You were like picking
05:17:38
Felicityat your >> No, I like it felt like itchy right there. I thought there was a tag or something. >> Oh.
05:17:47
Brian AtlasNext. Uh next. Okay, not the worst one I've seen. >> [sighs] >> Would you date him, Felicity? No. He looks like my dad. Can you admit though
05:18:00
Victoria Buma>> [laughter] >> this is a better better one? >> It's a better one. >> He kind of reminds me of Chandler from Mr. Beast. I don't know if you remember like the tall guy. >> Uh I don't watch Mr. Beast, but I believe you. Yeah. Next. I've already
05:18:13
SPEAKER_03seen it. >> Yeah, whatever. That's fine. It's funny. >> Briana. >> So pretty. Mhm. Yeah, and she's pretty. >> Okay, I look. I mean Look at the eyes. >> [sighs]
05:18:24
Brian Atlas>> To be fair With the dark hair. >> she's in her 30s. Like that's not that crazy. >> young. >> She's in her 30s. [clears throat] Can we see young Brian? Oh my goodness.
05:18:36
Brian AtlasUm sure, why not? Next Felicity is over here being a little gooner. Goonette. She's being a little goonette. You can just pull up young Brian. For context, I guess. For context, you know, whatever.
05:18:49
Brian AtlasWhatever. >> Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. >> How young are we going? [clears throat] Oh, it's just like old photos of me. For real for realsies. Do you have it? All right, you can scroll to the very bottom. Whatever. We'll do it like 10 seconds.
05:19:02
Brian AtlasAll right, surf surf surf. Up up up. Okay, young Brian. Yep, cool. There's me with a donkey. There's me not shirtless [ __ ] tank top. Up. The one with the puppy.
05:19:15
Brian Atlas>> Uh there's me dressed up as Robert Lewandowski. Uh click the angel one, I guess. Angel one. Wait, you used to be so cool. I know. I used to. I unfortunately
05:19:27
Brian Atlas>> dress like that anymore? I like that outfit. >> you not surf anymore? Uh no, I don't. Used to though. Uh one day I'll get back to it. Anyways.
05:19:40
Brian Atlas>> That's what they all say. Uh okay, I'm not What are you trying to communicate, I guess? I don't know. Uh guys, if you're enjoying the stream $100 TTS. Sorry, two Excuse me, I misspoke. $200
05:19:51
Brian AtlasTTS, $100 read. Venmo, cash app, whatever pod. twitch.tv/whatever. Yo, John. Thank you for the 25. I think I'm No,
05:20:01
Brian Atlasthis is new. John, thank you for the 25 on Venmo. Appreciate it, man. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
05:20:10
Brian AtlasAnd a legend. Appreciate it, man. Wait. Did it really say that? I don't know, something like that. Guys, shop.whatever.com. Get yourself some merch. We got some I I did some new big labia matter
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Brian Atlasdesigns on there if you want. discord.gg/whatever. [clears throat] Uh like the video, guys, if you're enjoying the stream. Also, big labia matter. Okay. So, we did all the gender swap, right? We
05:20:36
Brian Atlasjust Now we just have some Guys, here's what we're going to do. We're going to lower the TTS. We're going to lower TTS to 69, actually. We now have a $69 TTS if anybody wants
05:20:47
Brian Atlasto get a message in. $69 TTS. Let me just adjust all that. Felicity Sorry, oh my god. Butchering. You have a question for the panel while I just uh
05:20:59
Paige HamiltonI already asked all my questions. Ask some more. Be creative. Um I have a great big labia story if you want to hear it. Um Okay, >> [laughter]
05:21:12
Paige Hamilton>> you've piqued my interest. >> Okay. Okay. So, I was 15 years old and I had all these weird phone calls. And uh I finally listened to the voicemail and there's this old lady on the line saying, "Hey doctor whoever,
05:21:25
Paige Hamiltonum I just want you to know that my labia is really swollen and red." And she left me all these voicemails saying that. And I was like, "Mom?" Cuz we were in the car. "What's a labia?" She's like, "What the hell are you watching?" So, she
05:21:38
Paige Hamiltonactually had to call this like little old lady and be like, "Hey, this is my daughter's phone. Please stop calling and find out who your doctor is." So. Oh, [snorts] no. >> I learned what a labia was. I had no idea. It was very weird. That is strange.
05:21:51
Brian Atlas>> Very strange. >> That is an interesting Does anybody else have a big labia story they [laughter] want to share? I don't It's very rare that I get to share that. So, thank you. Your [laughter] moment.
05:22:04
Brian AtlasThat's what's going to, you know, >> like statistically I mean, it would just there's statistically like somebody has an outie.
05:22:14
FelicityIt's actually like really common. I don't know what the It's probably 50/50. >> Who here has an outie? Belly button? Yeah. [clears throat] Um
05:22:27
Brian AtlasNone. None of them. Nobody? I mean, maybe they're like I don't want to talk. for Brian. They don't want to talk about it. They're probably not going to tell
05:22:37
Brian Atlasyou. That's probably fair, but $69 TTS if you guys want to get it in. $69 TTS. But statistically
05:22:48
Brian Atlasthere's probably then like hundreds of women on the show unbeknownst to me who have had outies. Uh just sitting there. >> [laughter]
05:23:01
Brian Atlas>> Well, you're a guy. Like what would you think the ratio is? Like I don't know. I feel I I definitely had a uh
05:23:10
Brian AtlasWait, what's it called when you A phase? I had a a dry spell of labia. Like it wasn't a dry What Is it a dry spell? Is that the
05:23:23
Brian Atlasterm? >> Mhm. Like Like I was, you know, dating or whatever, but there was like a two-year, three-year period I was just like damn, where the
05:23:34
Brian Atlasbig [ __ ] at? Where are the big [ __ ] I don't know. Why are you looking at me that way? >> [laughter] >> Look at her [ __ ] eyes. She's like, "What the fuck?"
05:23:44
LauraSorry, I can't control Honestly, like I think I need Botox because I have way too expressive of a face and I should just look the other way. >> No, but I had a I had there was a like a period I was like, "Damn, bro."
05:23:58
Paige Hamilton>> Is this going to sound so weird because I was a virgin when I got married, but I've seen a lot of genitalia because I took care of people with like disabilities and things like that and older people. And I never saw anything crazy. So.
05:24:09
Paige Hamilton>> So, you've seen a lot of disabled vagina. More a lot more penis, honestly. But yeah. Oh. I don't know why. There's just there was a lot more people Nice.
05:24:21
Brian AtlasSo, yeah, it was never like attractive, of course. >> [laughter] >> You bring up the big labia topic. So, everybody's like, "What the fuck?" But like statistically speaking, I There's
05:24:32
Brian Atlasprobably been like 500 girls on the show who've got outies. Anyways, good talk. Um Awkward. >> It's It's only awkward. No, it's only
05:24:44
Brian Atlasawkward. It's not awkward. You're making it awkward. Okay, anyways. We're getting into the show notes, Laura. Uh you disagree with Brian when he says
05:24:55
Brian Atlasa girl should do his laundry the first time she comes to his place. Is that a joke or did he actually state that? When did that happen? When did I
05:25:06
Lauradisagree with you? You wrote that in the pre-show like in the DMs. Oh. >> Oh, yeah. Filled that out a while ago when I was 30. >> [laughter] >> Um
05:25:18
LauraI don't think a girl should do your laundry on a on a first date. Is that what it was? >> Well, first time she comes to the to my place.
05:25:30
SPEAKER_07Laundry. [ __ ] no. I freaking did that, but then I called my hubby and was like, "First time that
05:25:40
Leana (Finland)Yeah, but actually after that he came to Helsinki. I used to live there. It's like 250 km. So, what is it in miles? It was like a two and a half hour drive.
05:25:49
Leana (Finland)>> You got it. But yeah. So, I was sick and he came and took me and my daughter to Tampere to just be together and look out for us. So, he went to work the next morning and I was like, "Hmm, what
05:26:02
Leana (Finland)should I do?" And yeah, I cleaned his closet and >> The first time you went to his house. >> Yeah. But I called him and I was like, "This is a red flag. So, are you scared of me now?" And he was like, "Oh, that's so
05:26:14
Lauracute." I was like, "Oh, you're weird." Uh I've done a lot of my ex's laundry. Never in the first two, three months of dating. That's That's setting the precedent of like,
05:26:27
Laura"Don't do it. I'll do it. Like I'm your mom. Like I'm your No." I think it's a red flag that the girl is crazy. If she does it? Yeah, like in the first time you're there. >> green flag. Like going through your
05:26:39
Leana (Finland)stuff. Underwear? What? Like It's just my hamper. It's in a hamper. It's in a hamper. It's not just your laundry. It's in a hamper. But still she's going through your stuff. >> Yeah. Like the other way around a girl would
05:26:51
Brian Atlasbe freaked out. Like, "Why are you touching my stuff?" But I mean, if the expectation is there that she do it Why would it be there the first time she's at your house? How's that ever happened? How's that
05:27:04
Lauraever happen? Someone comes over for the first time and and you look at and she sees your pile of laundry. Are you like in high school? First off,
05:27:14
Brian AtlasI've I've gotten a lot more than just the laundry done, okay? First time First time? It's not sexual, you [ __ ] weirdo girls back there. It's not a sexual
05:27:26
Laurathing. It's like I'm saying she she cleaned. >> Yeah, I I used to do that for my ex-boyfriend. Every time I went over there, I would clean his bathroom and all that stuff. But I But I I'm not [clears throat] not first time.
05:27:38
Brian AtlasThat's not No, I would never. Okay, well, so uh That's interesting. Does anybody Before I get into it with you though, uh who here thinks first time you go to
05:27:49
Maria Porchaa guy's house, would it be unreasonable to do his laundry for him? >> I wouldn't do it. >> You wouldn't do it? >> Unless like if that's something he asked me to do and I really was into him, like I would I mean I guess I wouldn't be over there if I wasn't
05:28:01
Maria Porcha>> What do you think? I think it's weirder to ask for it on a first time, but >> She should just know. But anybody can do laundry. Anybody like She should She should offer, to be honest. The
05:28:13
Leana (Finland)Oh, hey Brian, can I do the Yeah, she should offer. >> I don't know how to be still, so if I'm in somebody's apartment I will freaking probably >> but I [laughter] will probably clean and
05:28:25
Victoria Bumado stuff and like [clears throat] cook and stuff. Just to like show the What do you think? >> being grateful. I feel like um I don't know, maybe it's just me, but if someone's coming over to my apartment, I don't want anything
05:28:37
Lauradirty or anything. My question is going to be why is your laundry undone? You know, it's I would never not do a laundry. >> Well, the the clothes aren't like on the floor, they're in the hamper. >> They're in the hamper, okay. And she just go She just walks in your closet
05:28:50
Lauraand goes, oh, you've got laundry, let me do it. I just got here for the first time. >> hot. >> No, it's different if she washes a few dishes and she makes you dessert. Like that's a whole another thing. No, that's good, too. >> But doing someone's laundry is like
05:29:02
Laurainvasion. It's like, let me look at your clothes. Let me look at what, you know, I don't know. That's weird. That's weird. If somebody's going into that, it's weird. >> Um That's weird. Actually, my husband does
05:29:13
Sabrinalike 95% of our laundry. To be fair Oh. Sounds like great. >> I can't go down the stairs anymore. >> Okay, well, that's different. Okay. I've folded laundry. First date?
05:29:24
Sophia>> First and second date, yeah. Valid thoughts. I don't want to touch a man's boxers who isn't my husband. [gasps] Like the dirty ones? That's Husband and wifey duties for husband and wife.
05:29:36
LauraIf I'm not his wife, I'm not doing the wife So that's why I'm not on a wifey level. I kind of like You can't give up the You can't give the milk for free until they buy the cow. My grandma told me that.
05:29:49
Brian AtlasYeah, this that goes out the window though as I'm about to point out. So you said, I don't know who it was. I think it was you like or maybe it was you who said, oh, what What you want a mom? Why she being your mom? Is that
05:30:03
Brian AtlasWell the issue with the the mom thing, right? is as soon as I turn this around when it comes to women's expectations of men
05:30:14
Brian AtlasYou want men to provide. You want men to protect, whether that's before you're boyfriend and girlfriend, while you're boyfriend and girlfriend, when you're even married, you want men to provide and protect. Would you want your father?
05:30:27
Brian AtlasCuz your father provided and protected you. So do you see how dumb that sounds? Oh, you want me to provide and protect you? I'm not your father. You can do that [ __ ] on your own.
05:30:39
Laura>> No, I'm not against doing his laundry. He If he's not my boyfriend and I'm going there for the first time, I'm not doing his laundry. That's what I'm trying to say. Down the line, I'm fine. I'll clean the whole house. I I do I've
05:30:51
Brian Atlasdone that my whole life. >> the mom comment? Because that that's it. No, stop. Stop. Stop. That's a general criticism of the entire behavior regardless of what point in the relationship you're at. Because when you come over and there's dirty laundry,
05:31:04
Laurawhat I was saying is if if you seeing dirty laundry, like obviously like your room is What I was anticipating is that the you know, it's kind of like there's dirty laundry in the bathroom or wherever just scattered around and you want somebody
05:31:16
Brian Atlasto come over to clean up. >> the third time, it's in the laundry hamper. Before I made that comment, I thought, oh, I'm coming over to like some dirty like frat house. Regardless, I'm never doing laundry on a first time at someone's house.
05:31:33
Brian Atlas>> then great. I can differentiate I can move off of the To be clear though, you're saying it's not an issue maybe on >> my boyfriend. to do those things. So
05:31:45
Brian Atlaseven Okay, so it's not Oh, you want a girl to do to be your mom. That's not your position then. No, no, no, no. Uh why invoke these arguments? Just waste so much time.
05:31:57
Brian AtlasOkay, god damn. I have to forward arguments that you're not even My god, so [ __ ] frustrating. >> going to do your laundry on a first time at a guy's >> then then don't forward the argument
05:32:07
Brian Atlasthat what do you want? You want a woman who You want a a girl to be your mom? Come over and clean your room. >> Yeah, but but when women make the I'm
05:32:18
Brian Atlasnot your mom argument that's that is ir- irrespective of where how far you are into the relationship. Women will say that in a five-year marriage,
05:32:31
Brian Atlasyou've been dating a guy for two years, women will say, I'm not going to do this, I'm not your mom. In this case, you're willing to do it, so look, whatever. You don't want to Oh [gasps] my god, dude. Um
05:32:44
Brian AtlasSo then that's off the table then. You will do it just on a long enough timeline. >> Yeah. Um Okay, you want a man to pay on the first date, correct?
05:32:56
Brian Atlas>> [clears throat] >> Yeah, especially if it's going well. >> provide and protect. Should a man protect you on the second or third date? Yes. Okay, men should be chivalrous. Yeah. Men should observe the sidewalk
05:33:09
Brian Atlasrule. Do you know what that is? I know what it is. I don't You don't care about it. That's fine. It's just kind of stupid. Um So men should pay on first dates. Men should provide, protect. Men should be chivalrous. Why is it okay for you to
05:33:21
Brian Atlashave an expectation? You said you don't care about how much money a man makes. So it's reasonable for me to believe that you would date a guy who makes $20 an hour?
05:33:32
Brian AtlasSure, if I fell in love with him. Right? I'm not making a criticism of that, but you would date a guy who makes $20 an hour. Great. To take you out on a date, I think it'd be reasonable if he takes you to a nice Uh no, no, no,
05:33:45
Brian Atlasit doesn't have to be nice. If he takes you out to a dinner, he's spending 100 bucks and he's paying for it. Assuming it's you know, we'll cut that down the middle.
05:33:56
Brian AtlasYour portion of the meal is $50. Your demand for a man on a first date is he has to work two and a half hours to take you on a date.
05:34:08
Brian AtlasIf I want a girl the first time she comes over, that doesn't even mean it's the first date. Although I'm open to that. First [snorts] time she comes over
05:34:19
Brian Atlasit takes 10 minutes to do the laundry. Okay, you put it in the machine. It's not the [ __ ] 1700s which with a washing board.
05:34:27
Brian AtlasWe have in technology that by the way is invented by men. You're welcome. I know. You You pick the up the the clothes. You put them in the machine.
05:34:40
Brian Atlas2 minutes. Put some soap in, whatever. You put You turn it on. You check on it 30 minutes an hour later. It takes 1 2 minutes to transfer to the
05:34:52
Brian Atlasdryer. Press a button. All right, well, then you can do that when we're not on a date. >> the the the longest period of time, the folding takes the longest. Maybe it's 10
05:35:02
Brian Atlas15 minutes. Mhm. Okay, so let's say it's 30 minutes total even being generous, I guess. So I it's an issue for me to want a woman to work 30 Uh sorry, so not 30
05:35:15
Brian AtlasYeah, 30 minutes. But for a guy to take you on a date that costs $100, which I think you go to Chili's, you're spending 100 bucks. I've never been to Chili's. Okay. >> [laughter] >> Look, I'll break it down super simple.
05:35:27
Brian AtlasYou go to Chili's, you get an appetizer, you get you each get a drink, you get a main course, you get a dessert, you get You give a tip. It's 100 bucks. You want a guy to work two and a half
05:35:39
Brian Atlashours to take you on a first date and you said you wouldn't even do the laundry on the first the first time you go there. So a guy might have to take you on two, three, four, five, six, seven dates before you'd even consider doing that.
05:35:54
Brian AtlasCorrect. >> Right. So why is my expectation weird that I want a woman to maybe spend 30 minutes doing the laundry, but you want a guy to work two and a half hours to take you on a date?
05:36:06
Brian AtlasI never said the date would be $100. But yeah, sure, in this hypothetical I think it's Do you think it Do you think $100 spent on the first date is like really unreasonable? Uh not really unreasonable, but it's
05:36:18
Brian Atlaspretty high. I don't think it's that high for like a mid-tier restaurant. Mhm. Is Chili's mid-tier? I don't even know. Maybe it's mid-tier. I don't know. >> I never tried the triple dipper. What is
05:36:29
Maria Porchait called? But why is the guy bringing her over if he has a dirty house? Like >> It doesn't have to be dirty. Just >> Like if it's dirty If you can see the laundry, like that's dirty. I just went to a nice dinner the other night. It was
05:36:39
Laura$50 for two people. In LA? >> At Moody Rooster in Westlake. Yeah, two exact. I mean, two >> Plus tip, it was 60 bucks. You You each get I mean, look, here here would be my
05:36:51
Brian Atlasbreakdown. Whether you drink or not, you each get two drinks, maybe. Uh I'm not talking soda. Two drinks, appetizer, main course, dessert, tip. That gets to That gets you to 100 bucks
05:37:04
Brian Atlasat like even lower-end restaurants. Okay. And even using your example, the $50 >> drinking on a first date.
05:37:14
Brian Atlas>> Okay, whatever. The $50 example and he makes $20 an hour, he has to work what, an hour and a half? Two and a half? $20 an hour?
05:37:26
Brian AtlasAnd well, your to pay for your portion of the meal. Oh, my portion. >> So it'd be $25. So it's maybe less than an hour and a half, whatever. An hour and 15, something like that. Um he has to work an hour to take you on
05:37:38
Laurathe first date? To cover it to cover your portion of it. Sounds good. That's that's the way of the world. Women have it good. What can I say? Okay, but you have it you
05:37:51
Lauradisagree as it relates to me wanting >> He is putting his money into a piggy bank because it'll pay off later when I am doing his laundry and cleaning his house. >> You haven't married any of the men
05:38:05
Laurayou've been with. >> it's the first time Jesus. When you're when you first start dating Mhm. you are investing in something. You're investing in a relationship. This is why I don't go on dates with most
05:38:17
Laurapeople. This is why I'm not on dating apps because I don't want to invest in something unless I know that I like them and I know that I want to pursue something. So I don't just like if
05:38:29
Laurarandom Joe Schmo asked me on a date outside, I'm not going to go on a date with him because I don't know him at all. So anyway.
05:38:38
Brian AtlasOkay, but you have a specific criticism of my expectation of wanting a woman to fold laundry the first time she comes over. Yeah, it's
05:38:51
Brian Atlas>> What's wrong with that? >> ridiculous. But it's okay. I mean >> in comparison But huh? But so is it ridiculous for women to demand men to pay for first dates then? No, and they're they're not demanding it. A gentleman
05:39:04
Laura>> They absolutely do demand it. >> I've never demanded any dinners in my life, but if You You answered I said he should Men should should have a That's the demand. But I'm never going to expect or demand that. Do you have a
05:39:16
Brian Atlaspreference for it? >> Yes, of course. But >> Is it Does he get negative Does he get negative brownie points if he doesn't do it? No. I mean Has Have you ever had the
05:39:28
Lauraexperience where you go on a date with a guy and the waiter comes and he says two checks? Have you had that experience? With my boy Well, no. Not not like separate checks >> First date. Not your [ __ ] boyfriend. Not absolutely not. No, I have not.
05:39:42
Brian Atlas>> tilted. Um okay. >> On a first date, no, I have not ever had somebody split a check. No. They've always paid. They're gentlemen. >> Isn't that [ __ ] convenient? The woman who doesn't demand it or expect it, you get it anyways. That's very convenient.
05:39:55
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, being I just said being a woman's pretty [ __ ] cool. Right, but so there is an expectation and whether you actually whether you actually articulate your demand, men feel a societal cultural
05:40:08
Brian Atlaspressure whether What Regardless of whether we know your position on it or not, men men aren't even going to go into date They're not going to even negotiate it.
05:40:18
Brian AtlasIt's like a major L for a guy to want to have the convo. I've offered to pay on first dates. >> a token gesture that women do. It doesn't mean [ __ ] I've I've done it and actually pulled out my card, so yes. >> admitted Hold on. You [ __ ]
05:40:31
Laura>> pay, but >> You just admitted that you've never paid on a date. What are you talking about? >> date, I've offered, but I haven't paid because they didn't let me. >> Okay. >> Yes, because there's a societal and
05:40:42
Brian Atlascultural expectation for men to do so. And I would assume Look, I don't I don't know what >> create it.
05:40:52
Brian AtlasQuestion for you. If a guy did say two checks would you feel a type of way like I understand you might accept it, but would you feel a type of way about it? I
05:41:03
Laurawould think that the date isn't going very well. If he was like two checks >> Uh So there is Hold on. I would think that, but that's just me. I don't >> Would there be a Would there be a second date?
05:41:15
LauraYeah. I would think that he didn't really like enjoy his time with me, but I would I wouldn't discriminate and hate him for it. So going So he would be starting off with a deficit and going into the second
05:41:29
Brian Atlasdate of you feeling like something's off. No. Well, you would because you You said you would feel like he he wasn't into it, which would create
05:41:42
Brian Atlas>> then if he asked me on a second date, I would be like, oh, okay, like things are cool. He just didn't want to pay on a first date. >> Can I ask you a question? So if men should pay on first dates, men should provide, protect, men should be
05:41:53
Brian Atlaschivalrous what should women do?
05:41:59
LauraIs that a question for just me? For you and then I'll open up to the rest of the panel. Women should be good role models for their children. They should raise their
05:42:08
Brian Atlaskids. Do you have any children? No, but >> so? Tell me what women should do uh >> for their boyfriends. Yeah, what should
05:42:18
Laurashould women do? They should cook for them and treat them with respect and um how soon? When they're their boyfriend
05:42:31
Lauraor girlfriend. None of this like little I don't know what we are situationship crap. That's not a relationship that you >> for first dates until that's the girlfriend. Yes.
05:42:43
LauraI mean First dates are different. Second date, for sure, let's split the check, whatever. But >> Well, but do you split the check? Yeah, why not? >> me you don't When you go on second dates, the guy still doesn't pay again?
05:42:56
Brian Atlas>> I've I've I have split the check on a second date. But you still probably frequently encounter men paying for the second dates, right? Okay.
05:43:06
Brian Atlas>> Um yes, so So why can't I as a guy say, "No. You don't get to be paid for until you're my girlfriend."
05:43:16
LauraWhy can't guys do that? They should. What? Girl. Still Okay. First dates are different. First dates are different. First dates are different. First dates Even first dates. >> No. Okay, well, I think a man should always pay on a first date and they
05:43:29
Laurausually do because they want to impress you. They want to draw you in. They want to show you that they that they want you. And so they're like, I'm going to pay for this meal to to feed you because I like you. >> "Look, we're going 50/50, but trust me, I'm into you and I want to [ __ ] you." Whoa.
05:43:43
Laura>> It's more of a dominant thing. [laughter] Like I feel [clears throat] like men should >> that Me saying that establishes that I'm into you. Uh >> other than the first date. >> It's called courting. I tell my I tell
05:43:55
Lauramy guy friends unless you really really like her and she and you think she likes you, don't pay for dates because I know girls who go out multiple nights a week on Tinder or whatever just for free meals.
05:44:07
Victoria BumaI feel like men so >> when it's balance situations like these and it's actually someone who they want to pursue, I feel like they should take the first step in leadership. I mean, men are natural born
05:44:20
Victoria Bumaleaders and that's something that we can't deny. That's why I believe that men should pay on the first date. As for what women should provide and what a good girlfriend slash wife should be,
05:44:31
Victoria Bumathey should be nurturing. They should be patient. They should be respecting of their husband or their boyfriend. They should never speak ill about them in front of other people. That's a very very important thing that I learned from
05:44:43
Victoria Bumamy parents. They need to give them motivation. They should be also This is a very specific one, but they should be very perceptive.
05:44:54
Victoria BumaI've I've heard that a very very good wife or a woman is very She has a good I think there's a word for it. Um discernment. You know, there needs to be
05:45:06
Victoria Bumasome level of discernment as you know, not just a girlfriend, but if you're going to be a mother as well, you need to be able to have that instinct within you. And all of this comes from, you know, not just loving your husband or
05:45:19
Victoria Bumaboyfriend, obviously, but from respecting yourself as well. When you respect yourself, you respect others. So I think that's a For me, that's what a good girlfriend or what a girl should
05:45:29
Brian Atlasbring to the table. So Okay. Um what about this? Should women be submissive? To a certain extent. To a certain
05:45:42
Brian Atlasextent? To the extent that the woman makes the determination as to how submissive she'll be?
05:45:51
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> I mean, what do you what do you want? Like Should Should a woman obey her husband? Should a wife obey her husband? Yeah. Okay.
05:46:02
LauraWould you obey your husband? Yeah, I mean, to a certain extent. I I I don't know
05:46:11
LauraDo you get to decide? I mean, yeah. I'm not going to say yes to every single thing.
05:46:21
Brian AtlasAssuming it's reasonable. Sure. Like obviously if your husband says jump off a building, you should not do that.
05:46:32
Brian AtlasHe probably shouldn't be your husband then. Yeah, on that point. Um But okay, so I mean, I'm just like there's very It seems like there's these
05:46:44
Brian Atlasexpectations on men. The moment a man has an expectation on a woman, oh my god, big deal, blah blah blah. Uh I don't I don't know >> have whatever expectation you want. I'm just saying
05:46:56
Brian Atlas>> it's it's really >> with his laundry expectation. >> No, why would you split the bill or do that being an expectation on a first time you're there? I love to do it. >> Yeah, she thinks She thinks it's insane
05:47:08
Brian Atlasfor look, here's It's your next expectation. Well, here's here's how I would translate this. So, basically, the first time a girl comes over to my place and maybe that's we've already been on a
05:47:19
Brian Atlasdate, one, two, three dates, whatever, or you know, or I'd say the first time we're hanging out, whatever. That's asking her to do about 30 minutes of work. When women have an expectation on men to
05:47:32
Brian Atlaspay for first dates, in this case, many of you have probably dated guys who at some point or other have worked minimum wage or you know, $15 an hour, $20 an hour,
05:47:44
Brian Atlasespecially when you're younger, when they're younger. I get your point, but it's >> He has to work one, two, three, four hours to pay for your date. Well,
05:47:55
Leana (Finland)your date, both of you. But it would still be kind of creepy to be at a man's house at the for the first time and him expecting me to do his laundry. Well, then it's really creepy
05:48:07
Felicityfor women to expect men to pay for first dates. But that's like a known thing. >> I get it's like not as socially acceptable or whatever, but like what's
05:48:18
Felicitywrong with wanting to help out your partner? That I love and that's the point. >> a guy that you went on a couple dates with. >> my girlfriend, I'm not going to pay for the first date. >> you're going to his house, assuming you've obviously hung out a few times.
05:48:31
FelicityYou're going to his house for the first time and you see that he needs some help like cleaning up his laundry. >> and definitely would help. >> I would do I didn't even I don't even think it's like a ego thing or anything. It's just like you want to help them.
05:48:42
Victoria BumaWell, now that they help that way. I feel like I know that. Yeah, if you know this man and you've been No, laundry is kind of like something really personal. Yeah. Don't you guys like I
05:48:55
Laura>> [laughter] >> I would do a few dishes, potentially. I might >> Dishes, that's worse than laundry. Not at all. >> No, it's not. What? You like putting it in the dishwasher? Or like just washing them. Like if you knew this man and
05:49:07
Victoria Bumawe've been dating for like I don't know, a couple like at least Enough to go to his house. Yeah, exactly. Enough to And that takes a lot for me. So, I'll know that if he needs help cleaning up, that's not something I'm going to do.
05:49:19
Leana (Finland)>> I mean not you should, but like I would want to help him. Like what if he has he has other things to be doing? He has to go to work to pay for the dates. That. But the expectation is the one that is kind of like creeping me out. Like the
05:49:30
Leana (Finland)same thing that if you go to the restaurant, I would like him to pay and if he doesn't, I'm grateful for it. And the same thing with the laundry or the dishes. Don't expect me to do it, but I will
05:49:43
Leana (Finland)help and I will do it and I will be like really happy if you being appreciated about it. Like if you know what I mean. But the expecting is kind of >> we should play the bell video because I
05:49:55
Brian Atlashave way more expectations than just laundry. Uh I have way more expectations. Here while he's getting that pulled up, I have some chats.
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Victoria Bumafaithful. Wait, is he enlisted or enlisting? He's enlisted. Enlisted, okay. Yes. He's he's active duty or Um I'm not quite That's actually surprising. I'm
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SPEAKER_00quite sure of that. >> Pasty George donated $70. >> Thank you, man. Women expect so many things from men on the first date, but why is it wrong for men to expect women to do their dishes or laundry on or
05:50:49
SPEAKER_00after the first date? Why so much entitlement? Mhm. Okay, peace. >> I'm seeing it that way. But it's interesting. It's like
05:50:59
Brian Atlas>> It's like Pasty George has like multiple concubines, like giga giga 10 out of 10 Canadian models. Don't even bro, there's some [ __ ] babes in Canada.
05:51:11
Brian Atlas>> No, they're hiding like Saskatchewan. Yeah. [laughter] And they're they're wearing their winter furs or whatever. So, anyways, um it's interesting though, whenever we say
05:51:23
Brian Atlaslike there's no issue when we say men should men should pay on dates, men should provide, men should protect, men should be chivalrous. Men should be willing to die protecting
05:51:35
Brian Atlasme and I think most of you circled that one, too. You didn't, to be fair. Yeah, I would do the same thing. Yeah, but then in in an the difference is if you're dating a guy
05:51:46
Brian Atlasand something scary happens and you run away, I wouldn't. >> out of fear. Okay, you say that, but and you scream or you shriek, your husband is not going to lower his
05:51:59
Brian Atlashe's not he's not going to lose he's not going to lose attraction for you. He's if you're a coward, men aren't going to be like uh if a man's a coward, if a man runs away, if a man [laughter] shrieks,
05:52:12
Brian Atlas>> [gasps] >> But that's the reason why I do the laundry. It's the end of the relationship. It's over. She's she's going to lose attraction for the guy. So, we can have a conversation while I would give my life for my husband, blah blah blah. Well, if we're just have
05:52:24
Brian Atlasgeneralized courage, if the guy's lacking in courage, if he's a coward, if he's scared, whatever, uh that's going to be assessed really women are going to assess that really,
05:52:35
Brian Atlasreally badly. Men, if you Oh my god, a mouse, a spider, but your boyfriend Ew. like jumps up on a chair and goes like this >> [gasps]
05:52:48
Brian Atlas>> I just hate it. >> a spider, oh my god. No. It's over. It's over for most women, I think. Um But I know you guys have >> That's [clears throat] called being manly. But
05:52:59
Brian Atlaswhen I say women should women should do X, women should do Y, ooh, [snorts] that's sexism. That's misogyny. I'm not saying you said that, but that's
05:53:11
Laurahow it's viewed. When men say, like for example, do you think it's do you think it's okay to say men should know how to change a tire? Yes, and I know how to change a tire. So, yeah, he should know how to and I'll
05:53:25
Brian Atlasteach him. >> do you think it's fine for for for a woman to say men should know how to change a tire? >> should know how. >> Yeah, sure, that's fine. But how about this? Women should cook. Yeah, that's okay.
05:53:36
Brian AtlasWomen should clean. Women should make me a sandwich. Yes, absolutely. That's maybe we have a more of a reasonable table here, I guess. But [laughter] I think a lot of people would say no, that's sexism. I could
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Laura>> That's that's sexism against women to say that they should do that. >> I could tell you so many stories. I used to make my ex breakfast burritos every morning before he went to work or every other morning. I would skip some
05:54:01
Lauramornings if I didn't want to wake up super early. Um but yeah, they should do all those things. I agree. I he they shouldn't do laundry on a first time over. But I I guess what I'm trying to get at
05:54:13
Brian Atlasis if men should do all these things, I'm not sure what what should women do? You said have children, take