35 w/ CRAZY Standards?! REFUSES TO SETTLE?! Obese Girl WILL NOT Date Obese Man?! | Dating Talk #267
Date: 2025-11-03
Duration: 8h 07m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Victoria Buma(guest)
SPEAKER_04Felicity(host)
SPEAKER_05Sabrina(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Leana (Finland)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_10Laura(guest)
SPEAKER_11Paige Hamilton(guest)
SPEAKER_12Maria Porcha(guest)
Key Moments
00:05:27
IntroAll 7 guests + Felicity introduce themselves
00:15:36
ControversyVictoria's 'Hitler always peaked my interest' TikTok played and discussed
“Hitler always peaked my interest okay.”
00:21:53
RelationshipFull relationship status round-table
00:32:15
Key MomentVictoria reveals she just started dating Noah (a Marine fan of the show) literally yesterday. He sends $200 super chat.
01:02:00
ControversyBrian confronts Sabrina about expecting fit men while being ~40% body fat herself
01:47:40
ControversyLaura openly admits to being 'slightly misogynistic' toward women
02:41:28
ControversyMaria names Europe, America, Asia as countries (all wrong), then Tokyo, Paris
02:44:05
ControversySabrina cannot name the continent she lives on for several agonizing minutes
05:24:55
Key MomentBrian expects women to do his laundry first visit, sparking show's biggest debate
06:00:01
QuoteVictoria: 'If willing to sleep with a man, should be okay folding his laundry'
06:27:00
Key MomentBrian counsels Paige about being mouthy to husband, quotes Proverbs 21:19
07:51:00
AgreementEvery woman chooses to give up voting over being subject to military draft
Topics Discussed
00:05:27
Guest Introductions
Maria (27, model/psych student from LA), Leana (36, Finnish mechanic born in Jerusalem), Victoria (19, controversial social media), Laura (31, unemployed Calabasas), Paige (32, married mother from NY), Sabrina (35, data analyst), Sophia (18, history student).
00:15:31
Victoria's Hitler Video
Victoria's TikTok about Hitler 'peaking her interest' played. She explains she studies historical figures. Leana (born in Jerusalem, Jewish) says she wasn't offended.
00:21:53
Relationship Status Round
Maria single 2 years. Leana in 7-year relationship. Victoria just started dating Noah yesterday. Laura single 4 years. Paige married 10 years (both virgins). Sabrina never >6 months. Sophia never dated.
00:58:18
Sabrina's High Expectations Debate
Sabrina won't date obese men despite being ~40% body fat herself. Brian challenges the double standard. Extended debate about asymmetry in attraction.
01:16:08
Laura's Anti-Wealth Stance
Laura finds extreme wealth 'gross' and 'disgusting.' Believes money corrupts people. Wants to live on a ranch in Texas.
01:47:40
Laura's Self-Described Misogyny
Laura admits to being 'slightly misogynistic.' Believes men are stronger, smarter, faster. Critiques the Whatever podcast.
02:41:28
Felicity's Trivia - Countries and Continents
Maria names Europe, Asia, Tokyo as countries. Sabrina cannot name the continent she lives on for several painful minutes.
02:50:20
Minimum Income Requirements
Maria: $300K. Leana: average. Victoria: $100-150K. Laura: no minimum. Paige: $85K. Sabrina: $80K. Sophia: $100K.
02:57:00
Man vs Bear Question
All women ultimately say man. Paige hesitates due to trust issues from absent father.
04:08:15
Body Count Reveal
Maria <5. Victoria 1 (one non-consensual). Laura refuses (implied 20+). Sophia 0. Paige 1 (husband only). Sabrina refuses.
04:48:02
Self-Rating Looks
Maria 10, Leana 6, Victoria 6, Laura 6, Paige 5, Sabrina 5, Sophia 3-5. AI age/gender filters shown.
05:24:55
The Laundry Debate
Major debate: should women do a man's laundry first visit? Victoria: 'if willing to sleep with him, should fold his laundry.' Laura eventually concedes after boyfriend/girlfriend.
06:06:01
The Bow Expectation
Brian shows ex bowing video. Most initially refuse but say yes for 'the perfect man.'
06:25:16
Paige's Marriage Advice
Brian reads Paige's notes about being mouthy to husband Skyler. Quotes Proverbs 21:19. Gives Skyler Hamlet quote as rhetorical weapon.
06:55:00
Brian's Anti-Marriage Stance
Brian refuses to marry: divorce risk, alimony, 80% of divorces initiated by women. Would only marry a billionaire woman. Would be stay-at-home dad.
07:46:00
Women and the Draft
All women choose to give up voting rights rather than be subject to military draft.
Transcript
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Brian Atlasintroduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education. Hi, my name's Maria
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Maria PorchaPorcha. I'm from Los Angeles. I'm 27. Um I am an SMC student studying psychology. All right. And uh how close are you to
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Maria Porchagraduating? Um two more years. Two more years? Okay. What do you want to do with your degree? You want to I'm figuring it out. Maybe more on the therapy end. Um
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Brian Atlasmaybe even like online therapy, so. So you're currently a sophomore? Yes. Okay. Have you taken any psychology classes? >> In high school and then um earlier this year I took like psych one. Psych one. Okay, so you just You haven't taken
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Brian Atlaspsych one. >> second one in um January. Got you. What's like from So you just took that psych class though. >> Just, yeah, this Okay. So it's still kind of fresh in your brain. Yeah, very. >> Uh give me like one thing you learned.
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Maria PorchaOne thing I learned. >> the biggest takeaway from the class. Um biggest takeaway, um just I guess like mind over matter, really. Mind Wait. >> Mind over matter.
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Brian Atlas>> They taught that in the class? >> Yeah. In psych one? What is Is that what it's called? Psych one? >> In psychology one, psych one, like breaking it down. >> Okay. It's not 101? No. >> 100, 101. It's just one. Psych one.
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Brian AtlasOkay. So it's mind over matter. >> Mhm. Couldn't you learn that from like an Instagram post? >> even or science >> girl's Instagram post or something. It's mind over matter. You know? No, because
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Maria Porchait is like, you know, it's your brain over like the matter, you know? Your brain But so what does that mean though? Just kind of like the effect of how each person, you know, is going to basically
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Brian Atlaslike interact with the problem. Um but so is that like Did you have to write an essay or anything for the class? Um I did. Not
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Maria Porchaover that. Not on that issue. >> What was your essay final Was it a final essay? I don't know. The final final was just over I'm trying to remember on that right now. Well, you wrote What How many essays did you have to write for the
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Brian Atlasclass? Like good three or four. Okay. The most recent one you wrote, what was the topic? Can't tell you. >> You chat GPT just pumped that out for you. >> No, I didn't pump it out. I'm just forgetful.
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Maria PorchaBut what It was Wait. Like over the summer you took psych one or Over January, winter. >> Oh. So it was a few months back. Yeah, about going on a year ago. Okay. You don't remember the essay? Nope.
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Brian AtlasThe topic? I would have to bring it up on my phone. That's how quick I forget things. >> Uh anything else like second number one thing, number two thing that you learned from your psych class?
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Brian AtlasI really can't tell you. Relate Relate to us what you learned in psych one. You're say You want to study psychology. Tell me what you learned. Do I want to study psychology at this point?
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Brian Atlas>> a psych major, right? >> Yes. Give me Give me just Okay, so mind over matter. Got love it. Love it. Sigmund Real Sigmund Freud Freud over here. What What's the number two thing that you learned in psych?
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Maria Porcha>> Number two? >> Yeah. I mean, it's science based, so just I don't >> Is it Is psychology science based? Mhm.
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Brian AtlasIsn't it like a soft science though? >> Very soft, yeah. So is it really science based? Um what But what did you learn though? Can't tell you. >> [laughter] >> All right, I'm not I'm I'm not This
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Brian Atlasactually look, I don't really think that this is an indictment of you. I think it's actually an indictment of the educational system to some degree. Um Potentially. >> But uh I didn't mean to grill you there. But
00:09:15
Brian Atlasokay, you're you're from LA. Do you do you work or you you do some modeling, right? >> Yes, modeling. >> Uh runway model? Both. Um like runway, commercial, print, uh music videos.
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Maria Porcha>> What What's Oh, music What Who Who have you uh Um I was in uh Chris Brown Jeremiah one. Um it was last summer. Chris Brown, okay. Did you uh Did you meet Yeah.
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Maria Porcha>> We Who Who What's his name? We Wait. What's What's his Cre- Breezy? What's his name? >> Breezy? Is it Breezy? Breezy nickname? >> Breezy. Did you meet Breezy? Yes. Yeah. I know him pretty well. Oh, you know him
00:09:51
Brian Atlaspretty well. >> Yeah, like hung out hung out with him. It's LA, so >> Is he Did you have like a You know, it's a dating podcast do you guys have a date or Um not a date that flirtation for sure for sure. >> cuz he he's a bit of a ladies man Chris Brown.
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Maria Porcha>> Definitely he is. >> Yeah. Yes. So did you have a date with him or what? Not a date not a date more like hangouts hangouts and like group settings you know many women around. Doesn't he charge like he does these meet and
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Brian Atlasgreets where he'll take a photo with you? Yes. >> charge like an obscene amount for the >> Like a thousand dollars? Yes. >> the girls can like bring their [ __ ] boyfriend or whatever.
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Brian AtlasBasically and they're doing all kinds of poses and like craziest like him proposing to the girl or like I'm going to write a note ask the panel like the Chris Brown
00:10:41
Brian Atlasboyfriend girlfriend okay I we'll come back to that. Um okay modeling you you've done some print stuff any companies we might have heard of or Um Build-A-Bear. Build Build-A-Bear okay. Uh Sephora
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Brian Atlasum Amika that was another like hair campaign. Nice. Different things. Good stuff good stuff what about you?
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Leana (Finland)Uh I'm Leana I'm 36. Uh what else? Uh where I'm from I currently live in Hamina and now if anyone wants to ask where it is or guess where it is. Can I have you tilt your
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Leana (Finland)mic down a little bit? Like this? Yeah. Um So yeah I currently live in Hamina anyone knows where it is. >> us please. Well you know already Finland so Yay
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Leana (Finland)okay you're from Finland so you speak Finnish? Yeah I do. Any other languages? Uh a little bit of French well a little bit of English. >> français? Oui un peu ma maman elle est française. Oh c'est bien ça c'est bien
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Brian AtlasJe comprends mieux que je peux parler. Merci merci je je comprends plus bien que je parle. Anyways should we talk [ __ ] about the rest of the panel in French? Yeah that would be
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Leana (Finland)Uh putain alors Yeah I don't know all the cuss words. I'm just kidding I'm kidding. For the French >> Every time in school I hit my toes somewhere I always cursed in French because you didn't get in trouble with
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Brian Atlasthat. Rock and roll um so you're from Finland uh born there? Uh no born in Jerusalem so I'm like Jewish French and Finnish. Gotcha when did you move to Finland?
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Leana (Finland)When I was four. Four gotcha. >> Three or four around that time. Okay cool. But my grandma is Finnish so I'm like totally. Occupation what do you do for work?
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Leana (Finland)>> Oh nice mechanic what kind? Uh like automotive automotive. I actually have a degree in heavy vehicle mechanics so trucks and bigger vehicles. Oh trucks okay.
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Leana (Finland)So you don't work like for I don't know like a BMW dealership? >> European cars we're actually the only garage that does only American cars in Finland. Oh wow okay and you said heavy
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Brian Atlasmachinery? Yeah that's where I got my degree in. Okay wow a degree? Yeah. At a university in Finland for that? >> like ammattikoulu in Finnish but what is >> Trade school. Trade school that makes
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Brian Atlassense. >> Probably. Okay uh I noticed your teeth is bejeweled. You have a little jewel there? Yeah. Okay anybody here have a grill by chance they could pop in? No?
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Leana (Finland)Maybe Chris Brown can get you hooked up. >> went to get my first one when I was 16 with my mom so when my daughter turned 13 we went together and Okay awesome I notice you have a tongue piercing too. I used to have five. Five tongue
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Brian Atlaspiercings? >> I'm really scared of needles so yeah I had five tongue piercings. You're scared of needles but >> Yeah. Okay. Um where can you even put all five where
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Leana (Finland)do they like underneath? >> One in the cross so Oh. Like this. Okay. Did you ever have like the ones in the lips or whatever or That's the two holes in here. Oh you had those?
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Leana (Finland)>> there. Oh you had the septum? Yeah. Okay all right. And I had it in my neck and Oh my goodness. here and yeah. Nice okay um So scared of needles I literally almost pass out every time.
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Leana (Finland)And then in terms of your education it was just like the mechanic school that you went to you got your degree in? Yeah I bought myself a 72 Valiant and fell in love with it and it had
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Leana (Finland)electricity problems so I built those and my daughter turned three so I had to decide what to do so I decided to went to school and became a mechanic. Gotcha all right.
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Victoria BumaWhat about you? My name is Victoria Buma I'm 19 years old I live in Los Angeles California and I run a quite controversial page on Instagram where I gave where I give
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Brian Atlasharsh advice but with love. Harsh advice controversial couple questions well I'll come back to that any college or anything like that?
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Brian AtlasNot at the moment no maybe a possibility next year but we are seeing how life goes yes. Gotcha and grew up in LA you said or did you say
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Brian Atlaswhere did you say Orange County or Yes I grew up in LA. You grew up in LA gotcha okay really caught you said controversial you know I took a quick peek at your you also have a Tik Tok too I took a
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Brian Atlasquick peek Nick do you have the uh the clip we're just going to play a portion of it she does she she is in fact a bit controversial I happen to find the most controversial one just to perhaps make you s-
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Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> Well okay go ahead play the clip.
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Brian AtlasHitler always peaked my interest okay. Play it from the beginning. Don't take me out of context always peaked my interest okay. Wait s- s- scroll it back scroll it back. No no no no the the the bar it's not scrolling all the way to the
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Brian AtlasYeah yeah yeah like that like that all the way to the beginning. Wait wait let let stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop let me let me stop talking and then play it go ahead. Hitler always peaked my interest okay.
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Brian AtlasWow okay that's crazy I mean it is a very controversial so I mean I won't let the what Do you want to explain Um >> that? Yeah I mean I could explain the
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Victoria Bumavideo as much as I remember I actually have a different take um rather than hating on people who have done horrible things I'm not not here to
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Victoria Bumasay that or defend Hitler um I try to figure out how they became who they became why they are in our history books while many other um
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Victoria Bumayou know dictators in history were not as prominent um in that video I didn't necessarily touch on that but as I grow I try to learn as much as I can from
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Victoria Bumaevery subject not just history but yeah um I think also the reason why I am so controversial is because I'm not afraid to say what others may hesitate
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Victoria Bumato do so this could be really anything um it could be about gender roles it could be about my views on the LGBTQ community it could be about my
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Victoria Bumaviews on many other communities like minority communities um but yeah I really try to venture across every single um subject that people are afraid
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Brian Atlasto touch and and I love it. Okay gotcha oh quick reminder guys if you do buy merch it comes up like this on the screen and we will give you guys
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Lauraabout you? My name is Laura I'm 31 years old I am from the San Fernando Valley and I currently am unemployed previously
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Lauraa personal assistant and I went to school I went to a trade school as well for accounting and for landscaping two very different things that I was really interested in. Mhm. Um not working in
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Brian Atlasthose fields but they're always applicable to life so Okay got it got it and you said 31 right? Okay. Just turned 31. Gotcha all right
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Brian Atlasand you currently said you're unemployed is that correct? Okay home homeless? No. >> Not homeless okay. I live in Calabasas. >> We had a homeless person recently I guess. Um
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Brian Atlasoh speaking of which the homeless person was that from was it two shows ago or was it last show? The the urban climber chick
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Brian Atlasin the BTS tab Nick can you pull up the Discord BTS tab. Uh there's a we we posted a behind the scenes thing in our behind the scenes tab on there.
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Brian AtlasWe're not going to play it but you can just Windows tab you can just show it yeah so um it's there if you guys want to see it a bit of a crash out meltdown I mostly
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Brian Atlasblame Felicity for it Felicity really got under Felicity got under that girl's skin. Um definitely wasn't me. So if you want to see it discord.gg/whatever
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Paige Hamiltonuh pull it up in the stream yard okay what about you? My name is Paige Hamilton I'm from New York I'm a mommy hi kids I told them I say hi I'm also a wife
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Paige HamiltonI worked for 13 years helping people with disabilities in the community but I am recently disabled myself so I had to switch gears cuz I couldn't go from income to no income and I started cozycuteco.com
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Sabrinaand I make apparel that's cozy and cute. And this is one of my shirts. So, thank you. All right. What about you?
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SabrinaUm my name is Sabrina. I'm 35. And I grew up in Orange County and I live in the Inland Empire right now. And where I worked I was a I'm a data
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Sabrinaanalyst for business. Any college? Yes, I'm going to college for administration of criminal justice. Uh but you haven't had like a degree from something else previously. No, I
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Sabrinawent to school a really long time ago and then I came back.
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SabrinaOkay, and you're in your first year, second year, third year, fourth year? Um second year. I should graduate next year, but um I have been doing data analysis for like 8 years through my
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Paige Hamiltonbusiness. Okay. And then college for you? Oh, I I did go to college um on and off for a long time. I'm so close to finishing, but um right now I'm focusing on being a wife and a mommy. Okay, what were you studying? I studied
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Paige Hamiltonart history. Art history. So, you and you and her can connect on I actually think it was Oh, I mean, [laughter] at least she's honest. I think a lot of people are interested in the past. That's how I'll
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Sophiaword that. Oh, you know what? We should have played the Erica song, but whatever. Um all right, what about you? Um my name is Sophia. I'm 18. Um I live
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Sophiain Orange County. Um I'm currently a freshman studying history actually. Um and I also work as at a bakery. Gotcha. Um and sorry, your age again?
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Brian AtlasSorry, I missed that. Your age? >> 35. And then your age again? 32. Gotcha. Sorry. Uh okay, 32, 35, 18. You work at a bakery. Are you in college at all? Uh yeah, I'm a freshman. Studying? History. History. Got it. Okay,
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Brian AtlasFelicity, what about you? I'm Felicity. I'm 19 from Santa Barbara and I'm a student. All right, rock and roll. Welcome everybody. We're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's
00:21:53
Brian Atlascurrent relationship status? If you're single, how long have you been single? And longest relationship. Uh hold on, there's actually
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Brian Atlasa TTS coming through. So, I guess we'll just do it this at now first. One moment. Um Felicity was r- Actually, never mind. Hold on.
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SPEAKER_00Uh Leeroy Jenkins donated $200. Ladies, can we get a fit check? Stand Yeah, sure. Sure, [laughter] we'll do
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SPEAKER_00it. Would you rather get a massage from a gay man or surgery from a female doctor? Serious surgery. So, basically, would you rather get a massage or die? Wow.
00:22:39
Brian AtlasUh that's interesting. Uh that that's a interesting question for the chat. So, we'll do a fit check. So, if everybody just wants to stand up, you can show your outfit off.
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Brian AtlasUh we'll we'll show off the outfits. Uh oh, uh I guess maybe just scoot the chair back and scoot in. Okay. So, you got the outfits.
00:23:01
Brian AtlasThere's the outfits. Outfits, outfits, outfits. Outfits. And then I guess he that he asked for a spin. If you guys want to spin, do a little spin. This table >> pokey, right?
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Brian AtlasOkay. This uh no. Felicity's not a fan of it, I guess. All right, Leeroy Leeroy Jenkins. Wait, is this like I actually think I have a the sounds for this. Hold on.
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Brian AtlasLeeroy Oh, no, that's the shitty [laughter] one. Wait, is There it is. There it is. All right, thank you, guy. Um All right. So, going around the table,
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Brian Atlasrelationship status. If you're single, how long single and longest relationship you've ever been in. Go ahead. Um single um for about 2 years technically. Um
00:23:52
Brian Atlasuh in a relationship for 5 years. Longest, yeah. Is that the one that ended 2 years ago? The 5-year? No. Okay. >> Different one. Uh so, the 5-year one was
00:24:02
Brian Atlasfrom when to when? Um from like uh fit 14, 15-year-old to like what? 20, 21. Okay. Gotcha. And then Wait, you said 15 to 21?
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Maria PorchaOr what? >> 15 to yeah, 21. Okay, so it was like high school sweetheart. >> thing. Who broke up with who? Uh we were on and off a lot of different times, but me finally ending it because the guy
00:24:28
Brian Atlasjust kept cheating and like doing dirty stuff like How how old? How old? Was he? Oh, um literally same age really. >> Same age. Okay. And then the most recent relationship you said you you've been single for 2
00:24:40
Maria Porchayears, ended 2 years ago. How long was that one? Um how long was it? It was like 2 years. Yeah. 2-year relationship. Who broke up with who? Me. Uh any any reason? Um cheater again.
00:24:54
Maria PorchaWhat's that? Cheater. >> Cheater. Yeah. You cheated? No. Well, actually maybe when we were off I did and that was considered cheating, but not to me. Cuz we were Were you guys off
00:25:04
Brian Atlason a break. Off. Was it off again, on again multiple times? Not multiple times. There's really only one off time and yeah. Okay.
00:25:16
Brian AtlasAll right. Um By the way, I just realized not related to anything you've just said. I just put
00:25:26
Brian Atlasthe uh woman from Israel next to the I swear this was not intentional next to the woman who said she What did you say about Hitler? I said I found him intriguing. I never
00:25:39
Victoria Bumasaid anything positive about >> yeah, I I've heard people say that. I swear that was not intentional. Do you have thoughts since you're Do you
00:25:51
Leana (Finland)have any thoughts on what she said? Well, no because she didn't say anything bad. Of course, I can put myself into
00:25:59
Leana (Finland)people's shoes also and think why somebody did something and either agree or disagree, but I didn't see that as anything offensive.
00:26:11
Brian AtlasGotcha. Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Just to create a little more >> [laughter] >> Well played. >> attention there. I swear that was I didn't even know you're from Israel. Um that was a new revelation when you said
00:26:24
Brian Atlasthat uh during your in- I I thought you were Finnish. Um I have a both actually here. Oh, you have a a tattoo? Blue and white tattoo. So, it's my Say at the bottom. Oh, Israel. It says >> Finland and Israel and the flags are
00:26:35
Brian Atlastied together. Cuz Finland is blue and white, right? Okay. Well, there you go. Um Okay. So, you've been single for 2 years. Yes.
00:26:46
Maria PorchaUh any any In the 2-year period, anything like you know, a couple months situation or whatever? Def- Oh, yeah, recently there was one that just went so bad. What did you do? I didn't do anything. I
00:26:59
Maria Porchadon't think I did anything. He would have to say what happened because >> have to say? He literally just started posting Oh. a new relationship on his Finsta Finsta? on a Finsta where I wouldn't have seen it unless I came across it.
00:27:11
Maria Porcha>> the viewers what a Finsta is? A Finsta is literally like I don't know if it's a fake Instagram or what they call it, but like when you just post random moments in your life on a different account.
00:27:23
Maria PorchaAnd it could be the most random things like just whatever like whatever you find intriguing. Gotcha. Okay. But uh so, you guys were seeing each other for how
00:27:33
Maria Porchahow long? Um for like two, three months from June to June. Mm. Yeah, June to like September. Okay, so you recently broke up. Yeah,
00:27:45
Maria Porchathat's recent. Okay. Have you had a rebound since him? No. No, no ex or rebound. Any guys in the picture currently? Mm
00:27:55
Maria Porchanot in person. Breezy? No, he's on tour whatever done. If Chris Brown like slid in your DM right now and he's like, "Hey, you want to come on tour with me?" Would
00:28:07
Brian Atlasyou go? I'll go. Yeah. I'll definitely go. Okay. All right. I'm kind of old, so like Chris Brown's cool again? Like For like a while now, right? I mean, I feel like he's always he's maintained relevancy for kind of a
00:28:20
Lauralong time, I think. >> Okay. But after the Rihanna thing, he was not Uh I mean, he's definitely continued to have I mean, it's that had a pretty massive
00:28:30
Brian Atlasnegative impact on his career, but he's remained pretty relevant. I know my sister Maybe not as much as like I don't know when his peak was. >> 2005. 2000 Yeah, exactly. But I was say,
00:28:43
Paige HamiltonI know my sister just went to his concert, but we don't see eye to eye on anything, so I'm not surprised. Okay. Um So, there's currently sort of a guy in the picture or Um that I'm interested
00:28:56
Maria Porchain kind of seeing what would happen. Um another celebrity person, but I don't know. Okay, gotcha. Uh All right. What about you?
00:29:09
Leana (Finland)In a committed relationship. I think it's been now 7 years, so living together, working together. Are you guys married? No. Ever married?
00:29:20
Leana (Finland)No. Kids? One. From current relationship? Uh a relationship before. How old's your kid? 11. No, 12. 12. Yeah. Okay.
00:29:31
Leana (Finland)Hi Ariella. Mama loves you. Go, Mom. >> long was that relationship? Uh 6 years. The father of your Yeah. Okay. Uh were you guys engaged or anything?
00:29:43
Brian AtlasYeah, but not married. But not married. Uh who ended that relationship? Who called off the engagement? >> Me. Why is that? Because I was cheated on a lot. You Wait, he was cheating on you?
00:29:54
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Okay. When you say a lot, how many women and or men did he have cheat on you with?
00:30:03
Leana (Finland)Well, the first time I found it out, my daughter has just been born and he took a Tinder girlfriend out. Because Like while you're in the
00:30:16
Leana (Finland)hospital? >> and no, I just got home and yeah, he was thinking he didn't want it to be alone if I leave him and because I was so
00:30:24
Leana (Finland)tired, of course, I wonder why he took another girl out. And that kind of went on for 6 years on and off. Damn. Okay.
00:30:37
Brian AtlasUm And does And you both live in Finland, right? >> Yeah. Is there a child support system in Finland? >> Okay. And so does How much he pays you money, I guess?
00:30:49
Leana (Finland)>> I've never asked asked for anything. >> Okay. Um do you guys >> the idea that if you Of course, if you really need the money, it's okay, but if you really don't need it, to have an
00:30:59
Leana (Finland)argument with the other parent of your child is just something I don't like the idea that it's always you have a relationship with somebody and you're kind of in an argument all the
00:31:12
Brian Atlastime because the other one is mad about giving you money or something like that. So >> Yeah. Yeah. Um So do you guys have shared custody? Yeah. Is it like 50/50 custody? Yeah, we used to have.
00:31:25
Leana (Finland)Okay. So he gets the daughter on the weekends or how does it work? >> Not anymore. You get What's the For like before COVID, every time he
00:31:35
Leana (Finland)called, he wanted to my daughter there. It was okay. But after COVID, he not sure if he got married, but he had a girlfriend and they had a child and then I haven't heard from him after
00:31:49
Brian Atlasthat. Oh, he's been out of the picture. >> Yeah. To- totally. Yeah. Your daughter's you said 12 or 13? >> Yeah. So he hasn't talked to his daughter in a
00:32:00
Brian Atlascouple years? Yeah. At all? Nope. Okay. So he started a new family and Yeah. >> He's I got Okay. Um
00:32:11
Brian AtlasAnd I'm assuming your current You've been in a relationship for 7 years. He He has acted as a stepfather of sorts to your child. Okay. All right.
00:32:22
Victoria BumaUm I think that's it there. What about you? Um I am talking to someone and fun fact, he was actually somebody who introduced me to your guys's podcast. >> Oh, there you go. There you go.
00:32:35
Victoria Buma>> I I don't know which camera to look at, but I know if you're watching this. And yeah, we've been talking for about 3 months. He's a very humble guy, very hard working. That is what I value most
00:32:47
Brian Atlasin a man and I'm waiting to see how it goes. Very very hopeful. >> Gotcha. So talking stage? Is that how you would >> Yes, I would say that. 3 months?
00:32:59
Victoria Buma>> Yes. And longest relationship? My longest relationship was 8 months. Yeah. 8 months. Okay. Who broke up with who?
00:33:10
Victoria BumaUh till this day it is still unclear what really just happened was that I stopped reading or responding to messages. So I think we kind of both mutually were like, all right, I think it's over. But yeah.
00:33:23
Victoria BumaOkay. Um So it's like a mutual ghost? You just ghosted each other or What happened initially was um you know,
00:33:35
Victoria Bumathere was a lot of build up to it, but I eventually found out that he was on Hinge and um I I actually he still to this day he doesn't know that I knew. But I was so
00:33:46
Victoria Bumaheartbroken. My friend at a friend, she sent that a picture from her friend that uh she screenshotted and sent it to me while we
00:33:57
Victoria Bumawere on call. And the funny thing was at that exact moment he responded to the apology text that I wrote because I thought I was in the wrong. But yeah, I found that out was so heartbroken that I
00:34:09
Victoria Bumajust didn't bother to respond. I liked the message and left it at that. But yeah, I don't wish any harm on him. I never wish any harm on anyone who has um unfortunately chose to do things like
00:34:21
Victoria Bumathat in the past, but it was a it was a yeah. Mhm. Even Hitler? I'm sorry. [laughter]
00:34:30
Brian AtlasUh good one. So 8 months in is you discovered he was on Hinge? Yes. Okay. Were you guys official boyfriend girlfriend? Yes. Okay. Oh, not
00:34:42
Brian Atlasjust you thought, but there was a a conversation boyfriend girlfriend. And then you've been talking to a guy for 3 months. Have you known him for longer than that or you met How did you meet him?
00:34:54
Victoria BumaUm we met by I Okay, the story behind that is really funny. I had this crash out on my Instagram story and I I don't know why what the crash out was about, but I was just like, I want a lawyer in my life. I
00:35:07
Victoria Bumawant someone who's in the military and I want someone to manage my social media. It was like a total joke thing and then he actually ended up reaching out and was just like, hey, I'm in the
00:35:16
Victoria Bumamilitary and um I ended up talking back and forth. We met the first time and the funniest thing was we were under a different impression of what that meetup was. I genuinely thought it was just a
00:35:28
Victoria Bumafriends thing and he was under the full impression that I was trying to pursue him, but yeah, he ended up inviting me to um another dinner date and I think from
00:35:41
Victoria Bumathere on we both kind of knew that this was we're going to pursue each other and it's been in the conversation us being girlfriend and boyfriend. I think we are both um
00:35:51
Victoria Bumain mutual agreement that it's going to Okay, I I'll just say the whole thing. Okay. I was refraining from saying it because it just sounds so random out of the blue. Yesterday was the first day that
00:36:04
Victoria Bumawe decided we were going to start dating. So if you were to ask, I was afraid that if I were to say one day we were dating, it sound like very bad. But but yeah, we we are dating for one day
00:36:15
Victoria Bumaand that's the full story. So you're boyfriend girlfriend or cuz you said talking stage, all right? Because yesterday we agreed that we were going to start dating, but I didn't know
00:36:26
Victoria Bumahow that would sound on podcast and he actually knows that. I was like, maybe we shouldn't say we've been dating for one day. So but that's the truth. We've been dating for a single day.
00:36:37
Brian AtlasBut you met him 3 months ago. Yes. Okay. I see. Is he So he's a a viewer? He's a fan of the show or Yes, he's a huge fan of the show. He's in the chat right now,
00:36:48
Brian AtlasI bet. Is he [ __ ] Yo, Noah. [ __ ] [laughter] reveal yourself. Reveal yourself, Noah. What's your [ __ ] username? Type in the YouTube chat. Um or don't.
00:37:00
Brian AtlasOr don't, but um I mean, honestly uh he he should probably Wait, so okay. He introduced you to the show.
00:37:13
Victoria BumaWell, I knew about the show cuz of some clips of I think Gorlock the Destroyer is what she uh she Yeah. Yeah. It uh uh You saw the show. >> Yeah. And he watches the show. Yeah, he
00:37:25
Victoria Bumahe watches the show religiously. He loves you guys. Um he's a big fan fan of Arthur, I believe his name. Andrew, sorry. Andrew. Okay.
00:37:35
Victoria Buma>> And um I I I was double also thinking should I say he's a fan of the show cuz I don't know the connotations that it's going to give, but um from what I know
00:37:47
Victoria Bumaand I'm not someone who tries to dig deep before it comes to me or I find out myself, but from what I know, he's a very ambitious man, very hard working, follows the rules and
00:37:58
Brian Atlas>> How old is he? He is 26. 26. Okay. 26. Uh little bit little bit of a age gap relationship there. Um
00:38:09
Brian AtlasAnd you So okay, the origination story though was you were you were crashing out in an Instagram story saying you want a lawyer,
00:38:19
Victoria Bumaa guy in the military and something What What was the What was the whole thing? >> And I yeah, I was like, I want a lawyer. I need someone who's in the military and I need someone to manage my social
00:38:30
Brian Atlassocial media. So does he do all that? No, he's in the military. He's in the military, but he doesn't manage your social media. No. And not a lawyer. Okay. I it would be hard to find someone who could do all that, but
00:38:41
Brian Atlas>> He's in the military. Is he enlisted or is he an officer? He's enlisted. He's enlisted. Okay. Which branch of the military? Marines. Marines. Semper fi, Noah. Um Okay. So
00:38:54
Brian Atlasquestion though, you said that you were in a uh you you'd been talking for 3 months or whatever. You just decided yesterday to make it official. Uh who
00:39:05
Victoria BumaWho brought that convo up? Was it you? Was it him? Um so it was something he brought it It was kind of a mutual conversation that we both brought up. He had asked me a
00:39:16
Victoria Bumacouple days ago and I told him that it wasn't the right time because I am someone who's also trying I'm very ambitious in what I do as well and realized that if he was going to come
00:39:29
Victoria Bumainto my life, it has to be a decision I really think about, especially with what I do and the controversy that I do touch on. But yeah, it was a couple days ago when I told him the conversation needed to
00:39:39
Victoria Bumawait and then yesterday um, we got on topic again during a phone call and, uh, yeah, he asked me to be his girlfriend.
00:39:50
Victoria BumaWell, I asked him to ask me and then I said yes. So, yeah. Wait, he asked you? Yes, but I asked It was a It was something that I was holding back on because I was really
00:40:01
Victoria Bumascared and I'm still a little bit afraid of making a mistake or is this the right thing? Is this the right time? But, I think, um, yeah. I asked him to ask me and he asked me again and I said yes.
00:40:13
Victoria BumaSorry if that's a little bit confusing, but Okay. Wait, so this wasn't the first time he asked you? No. When did When was the first time he asked you? First time he asked me was a couple of
00:40:25
Brian Atlasdays ago. Oh. And then you were like, "I'm not sure." Yes, I was like the conversation needs to wait. The conver- You said that? Yes.
00:40:39
Victoria BumaDo we [sighs] Do we help our Okay. Uh You weren't sure What changed What changed in like 3 days, 4 days? The conversation needs to wait. Um, there was a lot of things that we didn't talk
00:40:51
Victoria Bumaabout, a lot of, uh, things that uh we were both doing that slightly bothered each other that we didn't go over, which was, um, part of what was making me hesitate. So, we were on that call for,
00:41:04
Victoria Bumauh, quite the while, think about 2 hours before we headed into that conversation about girlfriend and boyfriend. So, I think it was realizing that the effort he was putting forward. You know, I am
00:41:15
Victoria Bumaalso someone who knows that, um, some men, uh, I would say boys because I don't I don't believe that men do this, but I know that some boys like to chase for a little bit and then they'll pull back. So,
00:41:27
Victoria Bumaum, but he has been showing up pretty well every single time I needed him for the past 3 months. Uh, on top of that, uh, gentleman at all I really think he's a
00:41:39
Victoria Bumagood very good gentleman. Um, but you don't know someone, but I'm really just seeing how it goes and going based off of what I have seen from him and I just
00:41:50
Brian Atlasmade that decision with him because, um, I I'm going to let God handle it, you know. Uh, okay. All right. Uh, relationship
00:42:01
Laurastatus? Uh, single. In January, it'll be 4 years. Um, I've never been in a situationship. I've never been on an online date. My longest relationship is
00:42:12
Laura3 and 1/2 years. And my last relationship wanted to get married. It was not my 3 and 1/2 year. And that is why we broke up.
00:42:22
Brian AtlasOkay. So, the last one that ended 4 years ago, he wanted to get married. How long was that relationship? 5 months. 5 months.
00:42:31
Laura>> months, yeah. So, he proposed to you? Like had a ring, got down on one knee, um, He wanted to look at rings and
00:42:42
Lauraask me if I if I would marry him, uh, Mhm. if he proposed to me like any day. So. And And no. I was
00:42:56
Lauratoo young in my eyes. >> 20 27. >> 8? 27? 27? Mhm. Too young to to get married? >> In my opinion, yeah. There was There was There was more things that I wanted to do. Yeah,
00:43:09
Brian Atlashonestly >> More things like being unemployed at 31? Okay. You could put it that way. >> what More thing What What do you want to do? Um, he wasn't the right person. I mean, that that's better than I wanted
00:43:21
Brian Atlasto do more things. But, uh, I mean, don't take it personally. Um, so okay. Uh, so you ended the relationship then. Okay. Do you regret doing that?
00:43:33
LauraNo, not at all. Why was he the wrong guy? Why were you with him to begin with? It was really fun and it was really different from my 3 and 1/2 year relationship, so that's kind of why I
00:43:42
Laurajumped into it. Um, he lived in Malibu and we had a really fun relationship and I just knew that he wasn't the person that I wanted to have kid children with, so
00:43:54
LauraI'm not dating anybody that I don't think that I'm going to want children with. That's But, you were dating him. Well, I'm saying I've been single for 4 years. >> What What was What was he? What was wrong with him?
00:44:08
LauraUh, I mean, honestly, he's a great person. He called me when the fires were happening. He's We still are in touch. We're just not >> him? I mean, I talk to him once a year. You know what I mean? We're not like
00:44:19
Brian AtlasBut, it was a clean break. You know how some people like continue to hook up and do Okay. >> Never. Uh I'll come back to that in a sec. 3.5 year relationship, uh, what age? Uh,
00:44:30
LauraI was 23 to 27. 23 to Who end Who ended the relationship? We actually had a dream breakup. Uh, we both mutually broke up. We wanted different things in life. We
00:44:43
Brian Atlashad just different views of the future. Mhm. Um, Okay. Yeah. He Okay. And going back to the most recent one, this 4-5 month one where he
00:44:54
Brian Atlasproposed to you, you said he was great. Right? Good-looking guy? Yeah. Good-looking? You were attracted physically attracted to him anyways? Uh, he treat Did he treat you well?
00:45:05
LauraYeah, very well. Uh, good good personality? >> Good personality? >> Yes, yeah. He had a good personality. Okay, he was hot-tempered. And I've never
00:45:16
LauraI've never been around that type of, uh, person. Sure. And in my family, like everybody's always very calm. My dad is very calm man. So, being around somebody who kind of like flips over things, that
00:45:28
Laurawas definitely a red flag to me and I didn't really find out until like 3 months in and I and then I started to realize that he's kind of crazy. But, >> Uh, when you say he was hot-tempered,
00:45:41
Lauralike would he punch holes in walls? Would he What would he do? No, um, Like would he Would he raise his voice? What are we talking about? Okay. I can give you a little example. I have a couple of them, but I don't know. Was he
00:45:52
Brian Atlasplaying He's playing video games and he's got tilted and he'd break his computer? What What are we talking? No, um, there was one time when we were going
00:46:02
Laurainto a restaurant and we didn't have face masks and this was like, you know, a year and a half after COVID outbreak and we didn't have masks and
00:46:13
Lauraobviously when you sit down in a restaurant, you take it off. And so, just to walk in and be seated, they were like, "You have to put one on." And then he starts like fighting and arguing with the host. I'm like, "Dude, this is policy. Like, I don't
00:46:26
Lauracare. Let's go somewhere else." Like, I'm the type of person that's just like, "Whatever." He did not brush it off and he got really angry and I was just like, "I can't deal with this." Wait, something about the restaurant? The first >> the Yeah, so he started fighting with
00:46:38
Laurathe host about having to wear a mask just to walk into the restaurant to sit down and take it off. You know what I mean? It It's It's that type of stuff. Like getting easily angry >> this? Like 2020?
00:46:49
LauraThis was, uh, 4 years ago. In January, it'll be 4 years. So, 3 and 1/2. >> he was probably right though. He was right. >> right about the face mask. >> really going to start a fight with a
00:47:01
Brian Atlashost? Are you really going to do that? That just seems crazy. Just go to the next place. You guys were in California, right? >> We were in Malibu. COVID was pretty stupid in [ __ ] Cali.
00:47:11
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, it was very stupid. I mean, no, I wouldn't start a fight. I can see why he's frustrated frustrated or whatever, but, um, was there any other examples though? Hot-tempered? Yeah. Um,
00:47:24
LauraI have a really good one. This is This is was a definitive moment. I made a piece of toast and he had just like had his place cleaned and I I really hope that he doesn't watch this. I'm going to
00:47:36
Lauracry. Um, I was eating a piece of toast and I dropped a few crumbs on the ground because I wasn't using a plate and he grabs the toast out of my hand and throws it on the ground and I
00:47:49
Laura[laughter] was like, "Whoa." It was Like, he crunch crunched it and threw it on the ground and I was like, "All right. You're insane." Like, I got the memo I need you to play it. So, there were some crumbs. And then I
00:48:02
Lauraproceeded to like sweep it up and then I was just like, "You have a good day." And then like obviously we stayed together. I I didn't want to start a fight. I just knew that like he was upset over something else, stock market or whatever. And so, I just left and I
00:48:14
Laurawas like, "Talk to you tomorrow." Um, hot-tempered, you know, and I'm I'm just not used to that. I'm I'm a person that's Was it like tile floor? It was, yeah. It's pretty easy to clean. Yeah.
00:48:28
Brian AtlasYeah. Yeah, probably an overreaction. That's what I'm saying. >> You know, it's like
00:48:36
Brian Atlaschill out. Chill. Um, so were you going to um, I was never going to marry him. We were in a good relationship, so You were going to clean it up. You were going to clean it up after that, right?
00:48:49
Brian Atlas>> I literally just like took the broom out, swept it up, put it in the trash and we left cuz I was like, Yeah, that was an overreaction. That's Yeah, he's got a bit of a temper there. Um, I've I'm not used to that either. That's That's weird. That's valid.
00:49:00
Brian AtlasThat's a valid complaint. Like, what What's next, you know? He's going to [ __ ] I don't know. You You spill a bit of water and he stabs you or something. I don't know. I don't know what Uh, that that Yeah,
00:49:14
Brian Atlasthat's probably a little much, you know, but, um, >> He's still a great great person. >> just curious though, if If he was here, would he describe what what happened differently? He apologized up and down the next day. He was like, "That was Oh, so he he admitted he made a mistake. He
00:49:28
Laurawas wrong. >> but some people have like this flip in them. Some people have this flip where they're all of a sudden they're they're crazy. Yeah. I don't have that and I've never had people in my family that were
00:49:37
Brian Atlascrazy, so it's hard to adjust to that. >> All right. Uh we have a super chat here. Um Uh Felicity, you're going to read do reads. Hi Victoria, you're doing
00:49:49
Felicityamazing. Just figured out how to send a super chat. I'm so happy to be dating you. You look amazing. Brian, I love the show. You all do great job. Wish Andrew was there. He's awesome. He's an awesome one, too. Yo Noah, thank you for the super chat, man. Really appreciate it.
00:50:02
Brian AtlasUh Andrew will be here next week, actually. Two debates, guys. Two debates. Uh a debate Saturday, dating talk Sunday, debate Monday. So uh tune in for that. Uh Noah, thank
00:50:15
Brian Atlasyou for your super chat. Uh you're you're welcome for me setting you up with Victoria. Obviously, I had a I had a big hand in that. Probably everything you learned from the show was you know,
00:50:26
Brian Atlasall all the like knowledge that I impart upon you, Noah, enabled you to like properly rizz up. Uh Do you prefer Victoria Tory? What do you prefer? Victoria is good. Thank you. >> Victoria, Vicky? V dog?
00:50:39
Brian Atlas>> Victoria is good. >> V dog, V dog. Okay. >> V dog, she will accept V dog. Uh but uh Noah, I you know, you you spelled my name wrong. It's with an I, the
00:50:50
Brian Atlassuperior spelling, so. Um Although although, you know, Noah, I was a little concerned there because
00:51:01
Brian Atlasyou were like trying to do the boyfriend or we boyfriend girlfriend? And I'll know, man. She uh It didn't sound like it was an instant
00:51:13
Brian Atlasyes, Noah. I love you. Well, have you guys said I love you? No. Oh, that's awkward. >> [laughter] >> Hey Noah, the first time you say I love
00:51:25
Brian Atlasyou to Victoria, it should be a super chat. You can tell your children. It'll be so romantic.
00:51:37
Brian AtlasOkay. Noah, this is what you're going to do. Yeah, that's what you tell your children. Oh, so Mom Mom and Dad. Like little Victoria Jr. and Noah Jr.
00:51:49
Brian AtlasOh, uh when was the first time you guys knew you were in love? Well, uh well, uh well, sport, my she she was on the Whatever podcast, this very controversial show, and
00:52:02
Brian Atlasanyway, I'm [ __ ] kidding. >> Don't you mean Andrew Jr.? Or Brian Jr.? Actually, yes. Uh if you guys end up having kids, I insist you name your son Brian. >> Fair. Fair.
00:52:15
Brian Atlas>> I insist. >> Mhm. Uh because I will facilitate. I'm also going to be the best man at the wedding. [laughter] Noah, you don't get to say in this. I'm just I'm the best man. Felicity's going to be the bridesmaid. >> Okay. Yeah.
00:52:28
Brian Atlas>> Maid of honor. Have you ever been a bridesmaid? Felicity? No. Mhm. Good talk. Okay. All right. Uh where were we? Uh relationship status. I think we've
00:52:40
Brian Atlasmostly finished up, right? The single for 4 years, any guys in between? 4-year period? >> dated two people in 4 years. >> Two people. Okay. Um
00:52:52
Laurabut neither of them were For how long? Uh serious. Um one of them I dated for like a month, and another one about 2 months, maybe a month and a
00:53:04
Brian Atlashalf. It was just short, not serious, and yeah. Okay. Uh All right. So, have you uh No, I think that's about it. What about
00:53:15
Paige Hamiltonyou? Um I've been married for 10 years. We've been together for 13. Hi, babe. He's at the hotel resting, well-deserved rest. Um we have two kids together, and we're here actually celebrating our 10th
00:53:25
Brian Atlasanniversary. Congratulations. Good You picked a good location, Santa Barbara. And uh you had two kids, right? >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. And um my understanding from the pre-show notes you sent, uh you guys
00:53:37
Brian Atlaswere college sweethearts. And you guys are the only people that you have I don't know if it was dated or just been with or >> Um I had a high school boyfriend, but that doesn't really count, right? Um I
00:53:49
Paige Hamiltonwent on dates before I met him, but I didn't like anybody like that well, unfortunately, so I didn't I wasn't going to lead anybody along. Um I actually met him at a park bench, and he let me do all the talking. I was like, I
00:54:00
Paige Hamiltonlike this guy. And um yeah, but we met in college. We actually went to the same high school. I dated one of his best friends, but I hadn't met him cuz he was really shy. So, he thought I was crazy
00:54:11
Paige Hamiltoncuz we had a crazy breakup cuz it was high school, but thankfully, he put that aside, and uh look at 13 years later, so. Oh, but yeah, also um >> both virgins? >> Yes, that's I that's what you were getting at. Yes. Um I was his first girlfriend, and yes, we were virgins
00:54:25
Paige Hamiltonwhen we got married. And we were together for 3 years before we got married. Okay. Very cool. Very cool. >> virgins until marriage. >> Yes. Why Why do you make the face? Cuz they were together for 3 years
00:54:37
Paige Hamiltonbefore they got married, and they were virgins at wedding day. Yeah. That's very admirable. >> that's true. He was a really good guy. He knew from the beginning it wasn't going to happen, and he's very black and
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Paige Hamiltonwhite, and he was like, if you think that's right, I think it's right. >> He's mixed race? No, no. He um I [laughter] don't know. What did I say? >> You said he's black and white. No, like he's very like like black and white, like yes or no. >> No gray area. >> Oh. But like in a good way, like
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Paige Hamilton>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> He was like he really respected it, and he believed that too a little bit cuz he was more old school. So, he's a white guy. >> He is very white. Sorry, babe. Love you. You're not black >> [laughter] >> You're not black and white. He's not black and white. >> No, my first crush ever was a black guy,
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Sabrinaso I I wasn't against that, but he's just white. Yeah, we met. Good times. All right. Uh what about you? Very single. Very single. What does that mean? Um I've been in and out of
00:55:26
Sabrinarelationships, so I don't even know what the longest one is. Um but I think the last two kind of mattered the most, so I'm going to say maybe that.
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Sabrina>> How long you've been single for? Um So, I was dating someone about like last year, and that only lasted like 3 months. And then I actually dated
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Sabrinasomeone just this September, and it lasted just a month. Uh Wait, sorry. The The first one you mentioned, how long was it? >> That was last year. How How long? Like 3 months. Were you boyfriend girlfriend?
00:56:01
SabrinaYes. Okay. Who broke up with who? He broke up with me. So, would you say you've been single for a year? About, and then I was dating someone in September. So,
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Sabrina>> For just a month though, you said. >> Who Who broke up with him? He broke up with me. Okay. Uh longest relationship? I can't really say. Like none of them really mattered that much to have it be
00:56:26
Sabrinalike an actual relationship. >> Uh longest consecutive period of time you saw a guy? So, I do have a friend. Um we've
00:56:37
Sabrinaknown each other for about like 5 years, I would say. But it's not like intimate or anything. Have you had sex with him? Um maybe at
00:56:48
Brian Atlasthe very beginning. Wait, what do you mean maybe? Yeah. How do you not [laughter] know if you [ __ ] somebody? >> Well, it's just um because we just don't see each other that way, I guess.
00:57:00
Brian AtlasWell, regardless of how you see each other, past, present, future, you objectively had his penis inside of you. Yes. >> One way Yeah, right? I mean, so you did in fact have sex with him. >> Once.
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Sabrina>> When we thought that it was going to work out. And you at the very beginning. >> Very beginning. >> Like when you just met him. >> We just met him. Yeah. And that was the only time you had sex? Yes.
00:57:26
SabrinaUh >> It's very complicated. >> you went on to know him for 5 years. >> Yes. Asexually? No. >> Aro- Like you were just strictly friends.
00:57:37
Sabrina>> It's strictly friends. It's a bit complicated. He has feelings, kind of, but >> a crush. Yeah. Yeah. What Uh just curious though,
00:57:48
Brian Atlasso how soon after you said early on when you just met him, you guys hooked up, and then after that, nothing. Uh how soon Uh how long did you know him before you
00:57:58
Sabrinaguys hooked up? Um about a month. Like we really tried to start something cuz we had a lot of chemistry. >> Okay. But um it would just never work out.
00:58:15
SabrinaBut he likes you. He likes me. >> Still? Still. But you don't like him. You're friends. Yeah. Okay. >> Like it's just it's just it will never
00:58:24
Sabrinawork out. Why? Um I have a lot of standards that I expect from a man. >> Sure. What are those? Um
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Sabrinasomeone with goals and consistency. Consis- When you say consis- consistency, what do you mean? Um when they say something, they mean it.