3 RUDE GIRLS KICKED OUT?! Ragequit Keeko Cat Fight?! ØF Girl VlRGlN?! (CAP???) | Dating Talk #149
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
Key Moments
“"all right we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"”
“"I think we're still in a call right now"”
“"I'm a virgin I'm waiting for marriage"”
“"I watch four podcasts with you talking about me so let's do this"”
“"keep the energy you had before remember keep that energy"”
“"you know how many people have reached out to me trying to get me to sabotage you"”
“"I was doing most of the stuff for laughs that's why I am sitting up here laughing"”
“"I'm glad you said that you did it for show I respect that a lot thank you"”
“"what's everybody's body count starting with Madison"”
“"I don't know the number though so I don't cuz people are going to be like oh yeah it's 75 100"”
“"he literally told me to delete all our photos say that we never dated and to sign an NDA"”
“"I would literally chain him up and walk him around"”
“"look if you guys want to leave then just get out go ahead you guys can leave go"”
“"if Joe Rogan invited me on his podcast would that not be an opportunity"”
“"I actually really do appreciate it I had a lot of people DM me after the last show"”
Topics Discussed
Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Notable: Aurora and Avery Jenner returning from DT#156. Taylor arrives late (about 1.5 hours late per Kiko); tension between Taylor and Kiko is immediate. Mason challenges guests on feminist labels. Aurora reveals she has a Discord boyfriend she is in a call with all day. Mason reveals he is a virgin going into Air Force Special Warfare.
Brian goes around table for relationship status. Alex: engaged (marrying next month). Kiko: in relationship since January 2023. Aurora: single; has Discord boyfriend; on a call with him during the podcast. Maya: in relationship a couple months. Avery: single since November (~6 months). Alex (massage): single since November; had on-again/off-again ex situation for 3 weeks. Mason: single; virgin, waiting for marriage; going into Air Force. Taylor: single for 2 years; longest relationship 6 years.
Aurora reveals she has an ongoing Discord call with her "boyfriend" all day. She is actively in the call during the podcast. Prefers online relationships over in-person; finds discord guys attractive for anonymity. Has had multiple Discord boyfriends; sometimes likes them genuinely. Said she is antisocial, isolates at home, plays Fortnite. Brian probes: not on any dating apps; rarely goes out. Mason: would not call online-only arrangement a "boyfriend."
Mason asks who has ever identified as a feminist. Most say no or qualified yes in the past. Kiko: first wave feminism yes, modern feminism no. Aurora: no. Maya: not really. Avery: no. Alex (engaged): no. Taylor: complicated; had some identification with it. Mason argues modern feminism is net negative; Brian agrees.
Viewer TTS asks guests to choose: 6'1" fit rich attractive guy with terrible outlook/attitude, or 5'2" chubby $30K/year 4-inch penis but positive outlook and confidence. Most lean toward the short guy with good attitude or claim they would stay single. Aurora: would pick the "douchebag" depending on how ugly the short one is. Alex (massage): short one with better attitude. Avery: short one with better attitude (gun to head). Alex (engaged): refused to answer (disrespectful to fiance). Discussion of whether engaging with hypotheticals while in a relationship is disrespectful.
Taylor (SPEAKER_11) and Kiko (SPEAKER_12) have extended conflict. Taylor: Kiko made YouTube videos about her; wants to face her directly. Kiko: offered boxing match to Taylor for $10K (Mason relayed the offer). Multiple heated exchanges including personal insults and near-physical altercation. Brian mediates, clarifies the boxing match offer was meant as an organized event, not a street fight. Taylor accuses Kiko of fake niceness in person vs. online aggression. Kiko says DHS/manosphere investigation comments were about regulation, not the show specifically. Resolution: Kiko apologizes (did it "for show/laughs"); Taylor accepts; they shake hands.
Brian pulls up Avery's Instagram and OnlyFans (link in bio). Both Aurora and Avery wear cross necklaces in their photos. Brian asks if they think God approves of their content. Both acknowledge God does not approve but say he "understands." Mason invokes Rich Young Ruler parable. Discussion of how to reconcile Christian faith with sex work.
Brian reads viewer request to rate looks 1-10 ("Stiffler" question). Avery: 8. Alex (massage) / Kitty merged: 10 then 5 then 6-7 (unreliable due to speaker merge). Maya: 10 (says she would not change anything; would not change lips even when pushed). Alex (engaged): 10. Aurora: 7 (insecurities include forehead, wants breast augmentation). Mason: 8 (not insecurity; objective evaluation). Extended debate on whether self-rating reflects insecurity or honest objective assessment. Discussion of whether most women look better at 28 vs 18.
Brian asks if guests will be more physically attractive in 10 years all else being equal. Aurora: no (will be less attractive; will get BOTOX at 28 for wrinkles). Maya: yes, probably. Mason: explains peak attractiveness argument — women in their early 20s have peak mate-value. Brian: prefers his current self. Avery: better in 10 years. Alex (massage): better in 10 years. Kiko: discussion of Millennial vs. Gen Z aging trends. Extended debate on objective aging vs. styling/presentation.
Brian declares himself a "natural body supremacist." Would prefer flat chest over implants, no-BBL over BBL, small natural lips over filler. Jeff Bezos plastic surgery girlfriend cited as counterexample. Mason: most men prefer natural look; women get plastic surgery partly for female competition. Maya: nothing wrong with surgery if it makes you happy. Aurora: does not have lip filler (contested by Brian). Kiko: would get tummy tuck after children. Debate on whether cosmetic surgery for post-birth body issues is acceptable. Mason and Brian form "natural body supremacist" alliance.
Brian poses hypothetical: trans woman (no bottom surgery) vs. trans man (no bottom surgery) — which would you choose? Brian: would choose trans man (technically still "straight"). Kiko and Mason debate what constitutes heterosexual attraction in the scenario. Leads into Kiko and Taylor trans discussion / Kiko's pronoun stance.
Brian announces Taylor needs to leave (~3:08:58 into show). Before leaving, attempts Kiko-Taylor reconciliation. Kiko admits she did things "for show / for laughs." Taylor accepts, says she respects the honesty; no beef if there is a genuine apology. They shake hands. Taylor exits. Maddie (production staff) joins the panel.
Brian argues women who do OnlyFans are not deserving of traditional chivalrous treatment (man pays first date). Alex (engaged) and Aurora strongly disagree: work is unrelated to dating treatment. Mason: only traditional women deserve traditional treatment. Extended debate on whether sex work disqualifies someone from receiving gentlemanly behavior. Brian's position: if body count over 30, man should not be expected to pay first date.
Brian asks body counts going around the table. Brian to Mason: already said it; 0 (virgin). Avery: 8. Alex (massage): 5 or ambiguous (she says she lost count; then says "around 30" is reasonable guess; then says it may be below 50; very unclear). Alex (engaged): 5. Maya: lost count; deleted her list; 30+ estimate; probably under 50; over 20; "a lot." Kiko: under 10 (confirmed by Mason on show). Aurora: 5 (real life virgin claim earlier; e-body count 100+). Kitty: declined ("not that high for my age"). Brian: did not disclose. Notable: Aurora had claimed to be a virgin in real life earlier in the show; this was contested by other guests.
Kitty shares ex-boyfriend smashed her car (video shown on screen). They reunited and hooked up for 3 weeks hoping he would pay for the car. He then went to sleep with someone else. He asked Kitty to delete all photos and sign an NDA to get car money; she refused. Ex is currently seeing an escort despite claiming to prefer younger women with low body count.
Kitty reveals she was a professional dominatrix at Pandora's Box NYC. Had a "slave/pet" she walked on a leash with "Property of Kitty" collar at her NJ bar job. Maya also reveals she was a professional dominatrix. Discussion of client demographics: alpha men, executives, athletes — all types. Hot firefighter client had babysitter kink (OTK). Consultation alone cost $700+ minimum; full sessions thousands. Avery notes dominatrix work paid more than OnlyFans.
Avery speaks about LA dating culture: most men she encounters are only interested in sex. Two attempts at dating during 6-month celibacy period resulted in sex-forward interactions. Online dating also same pattern. Many women she knows in LA have stopped going out to parties/underground raves because the environment is too sex-forward. Post-COVID social skills have degraded, especially for Gen Z who were 14 during lockdowns. Kiko adds: "bimbo culture" has led men to assume all women are hypersexualized. Avery says she is not going back out there; content with where she is.
Two unnamed guests who had been making disruptive eye contact / faces at each other for hours are asked to leave by Brian (~342:09). Brian tells them to "kindly go" and their security guard can take them back to LA. Brian says a third guest also left at this point. Context: Avery was trying to share her story about LA dating scene and sex-forward culture. Brian later explains: they had been doing this for 2-3 hours; he had given them passes. All three had reached out to the show themselves to appear.
Brian wraps up; closing comments from remaining guests. Recap of why the two girls were kicked out. Discussion of whether guests get paid (they do not; Brian argues mutual promotional benefit). Brian notes Andrew Wilson coming back for future shows. Twitch raid to a WoW Season of Discovery streamer (Stranglethorn Vale Blood Moon event). Final goodnight.