3 RUDE GIRLS KICKED OUT?! Ragequit Keeko Cat Fight?! ØF Girl VlRGlN?! (CAP???) | Dating Talk #149

Date: 2024-04-03

Duration: 5h 59m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlex (DT149-engaged)>

AAurora (in 4k)>

MMaya (DT149-cannabis)>

AAvery Jenner >

AAlex (DT149-massage)>

KKitty (DT149)>

MMason Gregoire >

TTaylor (DT149)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Mason Gregoire(guest)

SPEAKER_02Maya(guest)

SPEAKER_03Aurora(guest)

SPEAKER_04Alex (engaged)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Avery Jenner(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Alex (massage) / Kitty(guest)

SPEAKER_10Maya (split label)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Taylor(guest)

SPEAKER_12Kiko(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions round. Panel includes Aurora and Avery Jenner (returning from DT#156), Taylor (returning with prior beef against Kiko), Mason (returning co-host), Kiko (recurring co-host), and new guests Alex (engaged), Maya (cannabis), Alex (massage/fashion), and Kitty (hair/photographer).

“"all right we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"”

QuoteAurora reveals she has an ongoing all-day Discord call with her "boyfriend" — she is actively in the call during the podcast right now.

“"I think we're still in a call right now"”

QuoteMason Gregoire reveals he is a virgin, saving himself for marriage. Goes into Air Force Special Reconnaissance; pipeline is 2 years. Not looking for a relationship right now due to deployment timeline.

“"I'm a virgin I'm waiting for marriage"”

ControversyTaylor vs. Kiko confrontation. Taylor confronts Kiko for making YouTube videos about her. Multiple heated exchanges. Taylor: "I watch four podcasts with you talking about me so let's do this." Near-physical altercation avoided. Kiko offers boxing match for $10K. Brian mediates. Eventually resolved with handshake.

“"I watch four podcasts with you talking about me so let's do this"”

ControversyKiko immediately fires back at Taylor upon arrival: "keep the energy you had before remember keep that energy." Tension escalates rapidly from opening moments of Taylor's entry.

“"keep the energy you had before remember keep that energy"”

QuoteKiko reveals she has been approached multiple times by people trying to get her to sabotage the Whatever Podcast, but declined every time.

“"you know how many people have reached out to me trying to get me to sabotage you"”

QuoteKiko apologizes to Taylor, admitting she did the online videos "for show / for laughs." Taylor accepts the apology. They shake hands and reconcile.

“"I was doing most of the stuff for laughs that's why I am sitting up here laughing"”

OtherTaylor accepts Kiko's apology and departs the show early. "I'm glad you said that you did it for show I respect that a lot."

“"I'm glad you said that you did it for show I respect that a lot thank you"”

OtherBody count round. Maya: lost count; deleted list; estimates 30+; probably under 50. Aurora: 5 (claims to be a virgin in real life despite 100+ e-body count). Avery: 8. Alex (engaged): 5. Kiko: under 10. Mason: 0 (virgin). Kitty: not disclosed. Alex (massage): very unclear / lost count.

“"what's everybody's body count starting with Madison"”

QuoteMaya admits she lost count of her body count, deleted her list, estimates it's around 30 (and says 30 seems reasonable as a guess), though she does not confirm the exact number.

“"I don't know the number though so I don't cuz people are going to be like oh yeah it's 75 100"”

QuoteKitty reveals her ex damaged her car, they reconciled for 3 weeks, then he immediately cheated again and asked her to sign an NDA to get the car money. She refused.

“"he literally told me to delete all our photos say that we never dated and to sign an NDA"”

QuoteKitty reveals she was a professional dominatrix at Pandora's Box NYC. Had a pet/slave she walked on a leash with "Property of Kitty" collar at her New Jersey bartending job. Minimum consultation alone was $700; full sessions in the thousands.

“"I would literally chain him up and walk him around"”

ControversyBrian kicks two (later says three) guests out of the show for repeatedly making disruptive faces at each other while Avery was speaking. "look if you guys want to leave then just get out go ahead." The guests leave immediately. Brian explains they had been doing this for hours.

“"look if you guys want to leave then just get out go ahead you guys can leave go"”

QuoteBrian defends not paying guests: mutual promotional benefit (similar to being invited on Joe Rogan). Notes the kicked-out guests had reached out to the show themselves and then complained about show length. Calls out their sense of entitlement.

“"if Joe Rogan invited me on his podcast would that not be an opportunity"”

OtherAvery thanks Brian for giving her the floor; explains she had many DMs after the last episode wondering why she did not talk much. Notes she got new clients (tooth gems, nails, hair) from the show exposure even when she barely spoke.

“"I actually really do appreciate it I had a lot of people DM me after the last show"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Notable: Aurora and Avery Jenner returning from DT#156. Taylor arrives late (about 1.5 hours late per Kiko); tension between Taylor and Kiko is immediate. Mason challenges guests on feminist labels. Aurora reveals she has a Discord boyfriend she is in a call with all day. Mason reveals he is a virgin going into Air Force Special Warfare.

Relationship status round

Brian goes around table for relationship status. Alex: engaged (marrying next month). Kiko: in relationship since January 2023. Aurora: single; has Discord boyfriend; on a call with him during the podcast. Maya: in relationship a couple months. Avery: single since November (~6 months). Alex (massage): single since November; had on-again/off-again ex situation for 3 weeks. Mason: single; virgin, waiting for marriage; going into Air Force. Taylor: single for 2 years; longest relationship 6 years.

Aurora Discord boyfriend discussion

Aurora reveals she has an ongoing Discord call with her "boyfriend" all day. She is actively in the call during the podcast. Prefers online relationships over in-person; finds discord guys attractive for anonymity. Has had multiple Discord boyfriends; sometimes likes them genuinely. Said she is antisocial, isolates at home, plays Fortnite. Brian probes: not on any dating apps; rarely goes out. Mason: would not call online-only arrangement a "boyfriend."

Feminist label round

Mason asks who has ever identified as a feminist. Most say no or qualified yes in the past. Kiko: first wave feminism yes, modern feminism no. Aurora: no. Maya: not really. Avery: no. Alex (engaged): no. Taylor: complicated; had some identification with it. Mason argues modern feminism is net negative; Brian agrees.

Height / short vs. tall guy hypothetical

Viewer TTS asks guests to choose: 6'1" fit rich attractive guy with terrible outlook/attitude, or 5'2" chubby $30K/year 4-inch penis but positive outlook and confidence. Most lean toward the short guy with good attitude or claim they would stay single. Aurora: would pick the "douchebag" depending on how ugly the short one is. Alex (massage): short one with better attitude. Avery: short one with better attitude (gun to head). Alex (engaged): refused to answer (disrespectful to fiance). Discussion of whether engaging with hypotheticals while in a relationship is disrespectful.

Taylor vs Kiko confrontation

Taylor (SPEAKER_11) and Kiko (SPEAKER_12) have extended conflict. Taylor: Kiko made YouTube videos about her; wants to face her directly. Kiko: offered boxing match to Taylor for $10K (Mason relayed the offer). Multiple heated exchanges including personal insults and near-physical altercation. Brian mediates, clarifies the boxing match offer was meant as an organized event, not a street fight. Taylor accuses Kiko of fake niceness in person vs. online aggression. Kiko says DHS/manosphere investigation comments were about regulation, not the show specifically. Resolution: Kiko apologizes (did it "for show/laughs"); Taylor accepts; they shake hands.

Christian / OnlyFans contradiction discussion

Brian pulls up Avery's Instagram and OnlyFans (link in bio). Both Aurora and Avery wear cross necklaces in their photos. Brian asks if they think God approves of their content. Both acknowledge God does not approve but say he "understands." Mason invokes Rich Young Ruler parable. Discussion of how to reconcile Christian faith with sex work.

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Brian reads viewer request to rate looks 1-10 ("Stiffler" question). Avery: 8. Alex (massage) / Kitty merged: 10 then 5 then 6-7 (unreliable due to speaker merge). Maya: 10 (says she would not change anything; would not change lips even when pushed). Alex (engaged): 10. Aurora: 7 (insecurities include forehead, wants breast augmentation). Mason: 8 (not insecurity; objective evaluation). Extended debate on whether self-rating reflects insecurity or honest objective assessment. Discussion of whether most women look better at 28 vs 18.

Will you be more attractive in 10 years?

Brian asks if guests will be more physically attractive in 10 years all else being equal. Aurora: no (will be less attractive; will get BOTOX at 28 for wrinkles). Maya: yes, probably. Mason: explains peak attractiveness argument — women in their early 20s have peak mate-value. Brian: prefers his current self. Avery: better in 10 years. Alex (massage): better in 10 years. Kiko: discussion of Millennial vs. Gen Z aging trends. Extended debate on objective aging vs. styling/presentation.

Plastic surgery / natural body supremacist debate

Brian declares himself a "natural body supremacist." Would prefer flat chest over implants, no-BBL over BBL, small natural lips over filler. Jeff Bezos plastic surgery girlfriend cited as counterexample. Mason: most men prefer natural look; women get plastic surgery partly for female competition. Maya: nothing wrong with surgery if it makes you happy. Aurora: does not have lip filler (contested by Brian). Kiko: would get tummy tuck after children. Debate on whether cosmetic surgery for post-birth body issues is acceptable. Mason and Brian form "natural body supremacist" alliance.

Trans / gender hypothetical

Brian poses hypothetical: trans woman (no bottom surgery) vs. trans man (no bottom surgery) — which would you choose? Brian: would choose trans man (technically still "straight"). Kiko and Mason debate what constitutes heterosexual attraction in the scenario. Leads into Kiko and Taylor trans discussion / Kiko's pronoun stance.

Taylor departure and reconciliation

Brian announces Taylor needs to leave (~3:08:58 into show). Before leaving, attempts Kiko-Taylor reconciliation. Kiko admits she did things "for show / for laughs." Taylor accepts, says she respects the honesty; no beef if there is a genuine apology. They shake hands. Taylor exits. Maddie (production staff) joins the panel.

Only-fans girls and first date payment debate

Brian argues women who do OnlyFans are not deserving of traditional chivalrous treatment (man pays first date). Alex (engaged) and Aurora strongly disagree: work is unrelated to dating treatment. Mason: only traditional women deserve traditional treatment. Extended debate on whether sex work disqualifies someone from receiving gentlemanly behavior. Brian's position: if body count over 30, man should not be expected to pay first date.

Body count round

Brian asks body counts going around the table. Brian to Mason: already said it; 0 (virgin). Avery: 8. Alex (massage): 5 or ambiguous (she says she lost count; then says "around 30" is reasonable guess; then says it may be below 50; very unclear). Alex (engaged): 5. Maya: lost count; deleted her list; 30+ estimate; probably under 50; over 20; "a lot." Kiko: under 10 (confirmed by Mason on show). Aurora: 5 (real life virgin claim earlier; e-body count 100+). Kitty: declined ("not that high for my age"). Brian: did not disclose. Notable: Aurora had claimed to be a virgin in real life earlier in the show; this was contested by other guests.

Kitty car smash and ex drama

Kitty shares ex-boyfriend smashed her car (video shown on screen). They reunited and hooked up for 3 weeks hoping he would pay for the car. He then went to sleep with someone else. He asked Kitty to delete all photos and sign an NDA to get car money; she refused. Ex is currently seeing an escort despite claiming to prefer younger women with low body count.

Dominatrix discussion

Kitty reveals she was a professional dominatrix at Pandora's Box NYC. Had a "slave/pet" she walked on a leash with "Property of Kitty" collar at her NJ bar job. Maya also reveals she was a professional dominatrix. Discussion of client demographics: alpha men, executives, athletes — all types. Hot firefighter client had babysitter kink (OTK). Consultation alone cost $700+ minimum; full sessions thousands. Avery notes dominatrix work paid more than OnlyFans.

Avery's LA dating scene monologue

Avery speaks about LA dating culture: most men she encounters are only interested in sex. Two attempts at dating during 6-month celibacy period resulted in sex-forward interactions. Online dating also same pattern. Many women she knows in LA have stopped going out to parties/underground raves because the environment is too sex-forward. Post-COVID social skills have degraded, especially for Gen Z who were 14 during lockdowns. Kiko adds: "bimbo culture" has led men to assume all women are hypersexualized. Avery says she is not going back out there; content with where she is.

Three guests kicked out

Two unnamed guests who had been making disruptive eye contact / faces at each other for hours are asked to leave by Brian (~342:09). Brian tells them to "kindly go" and their security guard can take them back to LA. Brian says a third guest also left at this point. Context: Avery was trying to share her story about LA dating scene and sex-forward culture. Brian later explains: they had been doing this for 2-3 hours; he had given them passes. All three had reached out to the show themselves to appear.

Closing / end of show

Brian wraps up; closing comments from remaining guests. Recap of why the two girls were kicked out. Discussion of whether guests get paid (they do not; Brian argues mutual promotional benefit). Brian notes Andrew Wilson coming back for future shows. Twitch raid to a WoW Season of Discovery streamer (Stranglethorn Vale Blood Moon event). Final goodnight.

Transcript

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TTS Donation Readerkeep up with the rest of your aging body the more you have the worse it looks the older you get especially with clothes off it's [ __ ] go based [ __ ] take

Brian Atlasfrom Killa of Cal I'm a natural body supremacist get the freak out of here with your plastic surgery you converted me last episode I am also a natural body

Brian Atlassupr Natural Body supremacist we're [ __ ] radicals here this is a [ __ ] supremacist supremacist like if we came into Power like me and Mason we're going to run for for office we're going to be like

Brian Atlasprobably president of the US or something like yeah we're going to literally Federal ban on [ __ ] plastic surgery Federal Federal surg Federal platform we

Aurorawill'll be plastic surgery these days what's that you say I feel like the beauty standards depend on like people like they like beauty standards are like Kylie Jenner and she has so many like so

Mason Gregoiremuch plastic surgery like yeah I think that's just for like women's like and a lot of people own perception of the the beauty thing men don't find that stuff attractive we honestly most guys find it kind of repuls I

Auroragot but it's also like if you don't need it like then you're like I some girls aren't naturally like born with like features that without plastic surgery that you guys like most guys actually

Mason Gregoirelike would prefer the natural look over over I'll even [ __ ] I'll double down let me give you the list but you would say that about like some ugly girl with like some like their thing as though they wouldn't like that ugly girl regardless

Kikothey wouldn't like that ugly girl if she went and got a bunch that's the difference there might be some men out there like I'm sure a lot of them are in LA and stuff like that who love that

Kikofake plasticky look that's what they want attract doesn't want that there there is something like I I tend to say that well the guys who are into that

Brian Atlassuper plastic look are weird and I think I'm right but like what I don't know if this is a great argument here but Jeff Bezos the woman he's

Brian Atlasdating is like super plastic face off all done up lips fake boobs old she is older but like and so but I was thinking like damn this is like one of the wealthiest I don't know if he is

Brian Atlascurrently the wealthiest but one of the wealthiest men in the world billionaire many times over and I'm like that's who you're I mean bro you

Brian Atlascould do better jeffes want he wants a wristwatch he wants Jeff Bezos look you like what you

Brian Atlaslike I mean dude he prob F some do but

Brian Atlasthey're I'll say this so because I'm a natural body supremacist I would prefer a girl let's talk let's talk breast implants right I'd prefer a girl who's got no boobs just flat over some fake

Brian Atlastitties she could have perfect fake titties I'd prefer her with just no boobs if they're lopsided if there's some other sort of whatever I prefer that over fake titties let's see lipo I'd prefer a little belly fat over the

Brian Atlasweird lipo belly it like looks all dehydrated and [ __ ] up the belly button dehydrated I don't know it just looks weird like the there's something to the skin it doesn't look right let's

Brian Atlassee what else BBL give me a flat bum over a BBL perfect BBL don't give a [ __ ] flat bum take I'll take a flat bum they can even be pancakes I'd prefer pancakes prefer that's the thing about ASA like you can like go to the gym you can work

Brian Atlason the booty you can work on the booty let's see what else oh lip filler I prefer flat lip or not flat lip small small upper lip than than the lip filler I'm not a fan so also lebia plasty yeah I also call in

Mayathe question like wait who you did you want to come in on something or sorry one of you go um like for like a female though like if that's what you like and you're insecure about something and a little bit of filler is going to help that or that's going to make you happy then I don't think there's anything wrong with that something we should

Mayaencourage what do you mean anything wrong I'm not encouraging it I'm not encouraging it but I don't know I think you have one life and if you wait do you have lip filler no I don't any what do

Aurorayou think does it look it looks like you do it looks like you do it really does I think it I mean it looks like she could but like it looks like natural like I couldn't tell like it doesn't look fake you know I don't but like the lip fill I think I can't tell if it's natural or

Brian Atlasnot you don't think there's anything wrong with it no if that's what you like then go ahead and do it that's what makes you happy I think there's something wrong with it with doing at a young age the change lip filler does is fairly minimal compared to other

Brian Atlasprocedures like BBL and breast implants it's far less invasive um I think from the front it doesn't look terrible from the side it's like it you could tell it

Brian Atlasjust doesn't look right stuff like this it looks you could see it I mean some people do minimal but then the girls like who go overboard with it overboard humor what's that uh that's that [ __ ]

Mayalooks weird but you you think there's nothing wrong with it no if that's it's your it's like that's your body if that's what you want to do with it and that's what's going to make you happy go

Brian Atlasfor it and this is why me and Mason are reintroducing the patriarchy to society okay see cuz we as men you guys you guys want us to be protectors yes you guys

Brian Atlaswant to and so we need to protect women not just from immediate physical threats but we need to protect you of threats of Mind currently and currently there's an

Brian Atlasattack on women's minds and men's Minds in different ways there's an attack on your minds you're getting they're implanting the virus into your brain you're not attract you're not worthy or

Brian Atlasyou're not attractive if you don't get this procedure and this is here's Kylie Jenner here's Kim Kardashian if you don't look like her then there's something you're wrong with you buy this

Brian Atlasproduct waste your money be a good consumer go under the knife risk potential life and limb cuz bro these uh whenever you go under uh anesthesia there's always a chance of death you can

Brian Atlasalways die whenever there's anesthesia involved getting surgery spending thousands of dollars to cut up your body put plastic in it and I'm against it I'm

Alex (massage) / Kittystanding up we're we're done done with this wait do what Mak you happy Brian where do you stand do you consider this plastic where do you stand with um

Alex (massage) / Kittygastric bypass surgery since technically the body is natural it's surgery but it's not considered plastic well it is plastic surgery but it's a different form you're cutting your stomach weight loss but

Alex (massage) / Kittyyour body once you lose that fat you're technically not plastic you'll look natural I mean isn't that reserved for people who are morbidly obese I'm not you have you had have you had the

Mason Gregoireprocedure I actually just got a proof for it so I mean so that's not plastic surgery it's not that's not the same thing at all but uh I don't think that's really within

Kikothe realm of what we're talking still changing your body though still surgery cuz I said I'm going if you need to get a a liver same saying you need a skin graft CU you got burned or something like that's surgery it's

Mason Gregoirenot exactly the same thing medical it's medical induced plastic are it's CU like you want to lose weight instead of like doing it cheating and doing it the easy way it's like people still consider it cheating be honest not really I mean

Mason Gregoirelike you're taking your health seriously you're going to you're going to shed that weight and it makes it easy it's the process is made easier by making your stomach smaller so then you can't take as much food in are you guys

Mason Gregoiretalking about a here let's stick let's let's stay on topic though it's not exactly P surgery that's like a different different round yeah go ahead I agree with him sorry I know I wait go

Avery Jennerahead go ahead would you think the same thing for people that go get filler for acne scars or would you consider that kind of in the realm of a gast I can't

Brian Atlaseven say that word g gastric bypass yeah that is a tricky one I mean I'm not familiar is that a new development or something um it's not it is it is

Avery Jennercorrecting for something that was caused I guess like what would it's not permanent no after a few when not permanent what happens same thing with the lip filler lip filler after a while

Avery Jennerit disolve it migrates and it migrates but so would it look the same before and after or everybody's different I've seen people who their scar is worsen after

Brian Atlasbecause it deepens them I think we're you the primary argument here yeah yeah I'll get you in I mean there's look there the

Brian Atlasthese sort of more plausibly medically indicated uh justifications for cosmetic or plastic surgery I mean the origin of plastic

Brian Atlassurgery was for fixing deformities or war injuries where men got half their face blasted off I don't object to cosmetic or plastic surgery under those circumstances where there's some

Brian Atlasdeformity cleft lip or whatever and they fix the lip or cleft lip is that what it's called that's fine I that's fine but when we're there's really no

Brian Atlasmedically indicated reason to get silicone implanted in your breasts because you don't like the size exactly of your breasts what about this right

Brian Atlasand yes oh what if she has breast cancer fine if I give you that if I give you fine if they have breast cancer they had breast remove whatever fine that's F she birs you three beautiful triplets

Kikobreastfeeds them for 2 years has another kid breastfeeds that one for 2 years she got you know she they messed her up SK that's kind of where I'm like I would understand if she'd want to get those

Kikofix like that's like you were nourishing the child which in exchange ruined part of your body I feel like that's fair to allow I would have to look more into the the safety profile of getting that

Brian Atlasamount of skin removed if it's safe then I don't think I would most I don't think I would have objection even they don't even do don't think I would have objection you keep you keep introducing these like kind of what I'm talk no I

Kikojust wanted your opinion on that one like actually like as a man like if you guys are opposed to plastic surgery would you still be opposed to something like that I don't think so I don't think so

Brian Atlasbut again my primary thing is with the BBL the Lipo the lip filler unnecessary breast implants these are not the abundance of it really ever medically in

Mason Gregoireindicated say like if it's uncomfortable for my wife to have like sagging breasts then yeah like I don't want her to be uncomfortable but it's more the personality issue or like how they see

Mason Gregoirethemselves if they see themselves so poorly like I have to change all this stuff I I hope I would I would have noticed that while I was dating them cuz I don't want to date somebody who is constantly like I don't measure up to

Mason Gregoiresome arbitrary standard I think you're beautiful I'm dating you because I think you're beautiful you don't need to change anything I I find you hot like that should be and they should they shouldn't have to have a boyfriend to tell them that they should be like I

Kikolove the way God made me he made me intentionally this way maybe there are a couple like medical things they want to change not that's not how he made her though like that's why it's kind of like reconstruction in my eyes because if she had nice perky you know and then Fe the

Taylorkids what if she just wants her nice little perky titties back t t you had something yeah cuz she was saying something about like uh lip filler and all that stuff's okay what about the girls who get it and they still don't love themselves I see so many girls

Tayloronline crying about their bbl's botched their boobs DC fly's wife passed away left three kids behind you know you know how dangerous that is all because you wanted a boob job like I get it love yourself things like that I wear makeup I don't want to be a hypocrite but I

Taylorthink that altering that to a point where you're under anesthesia and all that over what a nose and like there's some women who have beautiful ethnic noses and they chop them off to have this little who knows from the Grinch why and you're beautiful like you know what I mean don't alter yourself if you

Taylordon't have lips you don't got them you have other things that matter like I might not have the best body but I might have a good personality you might have something else I feel like women don't understand there's more to offer than just your looks that's what I think he's probably getting at and you surgery is

Mason Gregoirenot important really surgery yeah that's a great Point surgery doesn't usually fix the problem in the mind of a woman it usually like it amplifies the problem yeah that's why they go too far a lot of the

Kikotimes exactly and sometimes Botox doesn't even look good Botox is the hardest the harder one to read but the it really really the fillers I'm excited to see what everyone's going to look

Kikolike in about 20 years I am like they look great now but they're I'm 20 years when you just keep adding and adding for real just get in the gym it's like that's the that's the

Mason Gregoiretruth like if you really want to improve your physical look get in the gy confidence in general yeah confidence in general your ability to stay disciplined it improves yourself as a human being feel confident get start lift heavy

Mason Gregoireweights twice a week do some cardio like it's it's not that difficult it is hard sometimes to get in the gym but just get in there and do something you'll fall in love with your body and its ability and

Brian Atlasall the work that you is so awesome yeah right we have two we have two chats here we have uh hey thank you for the uh message hold up why are we discussing

Brian Atlasattractiveness when half the girls are off blank one of them Exel in a virgin Bible chat damn where has Society come

Brian Atlasto okay um why are we discussing okay um appreciate it I don't see how any of that through your Instagram

Brian Atlaslet's she wants to see you she wants to see you all right we have deplorable dude uh Kar can you read this erroneous purple hair erroneous

Kikoerroneous erroneous purple hair five Kiko's crazy self 2 sexy [ __ ] 7 young

KikoCrystal gal 6 wish.com Kendall six red hair five Bridget from trolls three what Mason Mason 8.5 five oh thank you Mike

KikoTyson in the wig too that's if you I'm so sorry if you are a man if that was a man who left that comment you are gay as hell my boy you just rated a man the highest at a table of all women let go it's fine to have

Kikoyour opinions but first of all my boyfriend wouldn't even fix his lips to rate another man first of all second of all to pick a man as the highest I mean have your preferences but like I said it's a preference it's a it's opinion and it's a preference and you prefer men

Kikoin my opinion that was a bit homophobic oh no I want him to be who he is I want him to be his true well he is here like tipping a man there you go you're paying a man's bills you're complimenting men

Brian Atlaswhat are you you're one step away from being P wait guys go to twitch. where's Meek wait one step away from what yikes okay uh guys twitch.tv/

Brian Atlaswhatever drops a follow drops a prime sub if you're watching over there if you're watching on YouTube open up another tab twitch.tv/ whatever mods if you can spam in the chat it's also in the description drop us a follow in the

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Brian Atlasone thing I forgot to ask at the beginning of the show some of you have maybe seen the show before i' like to I should have started here is there anything any of you disagree with on on with me on anything maybe you've seen

Brian Atlassomething on the show is there anything that any of you disagree with me on on anything about everything there's something you disagree with me on oh that's right let's pull up your tweets let's pull up

Brian Atlasyour tweets that's right we we pulled this up a while ago Nick could you pull up the tweets yeah uh make it bigger

Brian Atlasplease oh that wasn't the Tweet but okay that's fine we'll get we'll get to it so FYI for every ho out there is aand that either actually W in your own voice we'll have you read it f FYI for every

Maya (split label)[ __ ] out there is a man that either failed her or gave her a platform to be a [ __ ] OT I agree that hold on we'll get to that K can you read that cookie how do

Kikoyou know it's not a woman trapped in a man's body let's talk and get another Rage Quit what was the blinked out I can't even like usually I can just like put two together trans that's what's oh

Kikolet's talk trans cookie how do you know it's not a woman trapped in a man's body what are you referring to the the the guy who was raing people and you're like you're I think so right how do I know

Kikoit's not a woman trapped in a man's body the guy CU you said he was he was uh that's fine still gay rainbow because he's now a trans gay man like what are

Brian Atlaswe talking about that changes absolutely nothing maybe we than100 maybe we'll hit on that topic later though it's not right withoute well we'll get we'll try to do round two on that if you want to see guys if you want

Brian Atlasto see round three Chase versus Kiko the the trilogy the final showdown [ __ ] spam his DMS to make it happen Kiko's down you know

Brian Atlasall right uh let's pull back up the Twitter please oh no actually well you already read it excuse me so actually just let me pull it uh okay man so wait

Maya (split label)what but why all the blame on the guys why the blame on the men no and I think both parties are equally bad that tweet was in response to the Manos fear

Maya (split label)putting the blame on the women particularly and I think women like that do o and work in the sex industry and stuff they're you know it's unfortunate

Maya (split label)you know but they're doing what they feel that they need to do to make money um in society and at the end of the day you know you have men going around oh

Maya (split label)[ __ ] this [ __ ] that you're a [ __ ] for doing it and there's that opinion you know or or maybe more so coming from a place of like okay women that do o or sex work like they're ruining Society

Maya (split label)right like they get a lot of blame for ruining Society in the manosphere we're talking extremes here really red pill men that are on Twitter and whatnot have this idea that women are the ones

Maya (split label)ruining Society because of doing things like o and whatnot that tweet was more in rebuttal of like maybe look in the mirror a little bit as a man or as the

Maya (split label)man species and realize that a lot of of women had an absent father or they have some simp giving them the money allowing them to do this line of

Brian Atlaswork I mean there is there is a component of supply and demand obviously so if there was no demand for this sort of thing well why would women do it so I

Brian Atlasmean I I think that uh I agree with you that there's uh certainly both men women have some uh accountability here responsibility it's the industry's fault

Brian Atlasmen should stop paying for off and consume less or no porn yes that would be I think only fans should get banned in in abish well hold on we have three only fans girls here what do you guys

Brian Atlasthink that figure it out this shit's ridiculous wants to see you guys on the street wants to see you on the street she wants she wants to be homeless so

Alex (engaged)it's okay I guess has a whole fiance so fig out my fiance was okay it's fine he um went homeless on purpose

Alex (engaged)before okay and this is so I mean he was rich and then he decided he didn't want to be rich totally unrelated to what we're talking about but okay well I'm just saying what's the question what are you pointing at me

Brian Atlasfor how do you feel she wants should not be banned she wants to ban only fans Kiko's a radical red pillar I'm not I'm Mak I used to that's the thing it doesn't take bread pill to not be for

Brian Atlasall is a misogynist and she she's an anti-feminist hates women she hates women she wants she wants to stop sex work how do you feel about that if you

Mayawatch the original videos and Aurora iagree I'm making more money than I was when I was working like a normal job and question here that'd be sad if you weren't making a lot wait did you ever

Kikoyou worked a normal job before what did you do I worked at Jersey miks that's all you ever bro I'm done we only that's exactly why we're say it to

Brian Atlasbe abolished it's giving too many her wifey score kind of went up though because she's good at making sandwiches yeah honestly right a little bit her wife I do love me some Jersey mics I will admit put a ring on her right

Kikothat's exactly why I said to be abolished you are 19 you're 19 you're 18 barely gave I gave it a shot I worked at Jersey miks that's nothing you have even your whole career path by doing this only fans yes you're making a lot of

Kikomoney right now but you could do a lot of I know these servers walk out with $600 a night from my restaurant on a night only fans doesn't get like taken down or banned or whatever wait you know

Brian Atlaswhat we're going to actually move on because we already talked about we talked abolishing it uh next tweet if it was uh okay oh wait publicly shaming or

Maya (split label)I'll have you read it go ahead boy okay publicly shaming hores to fix Society sure sounds good while we're at it let's check your browser history and publicly shame any man that gives them a platform

Aurorawhen you say give them a platform like what do you mean like the guys who right wait how about we check their browser history of the people that are like tipping on here talking [ __ ] they're not going to they're going to delete it for I don't think she means literally P it's

Maya (split label)again it's the same exact thing with my other tweet in in retaliation of these the manosphere and the red pill blaming only women for the downfall of sexual

Maya (split label)degeneracy and and a lot of things that are happening in society when these same men that are sitting here critically on the internet probably have of subscriptions

Maya (split label)and have porn in their browser history I guarantee a lot of men in the manosphere in the red pill Community especially one that are very centered on hating women

Maya (split label)do the exact thing that they hate which is view pornography Al I do Wonder like can you view pornography but also

Brian Atlasrealize that it's not good for society I know it's perhaps is is it like someone who's a little someone who's addicted to crack cocaine I'm not sure if it is someone who's addicted to crack cocaine

Brian Atlascan intellectually know that it's not good for society and still be addicted to crack cocaine that's true yeah right well we'll move on next next I think this is the Tweet maybe the one that I reacted

Brian Atlasto okay oh wait scroll up Scroll up no no no just scroll up because there's an initial put us on the other side please

Maya (split label)small if you want to read it go ahead okay the truth is men don't want a soft feminine Quiet Woman They want a bold competent dominant woman who will be feminine and submissive for him just

Maya (split label)like how women want the bad boy Trope to be good for her and then you said men who agree are alpha masculine Chads and men who disagree are beta insult internet and nons and I'm not I didn't

Maya (split label)put that secondary tweet there to just like oh like screw everyone I I put that because of as you can see I got almost 400 replies on that tweet and just from what I could my own objective

Maya (split label)analyzation of the people that were responding to me I had a lot of anon Anonymous men hating on me which probably if you're anonymous like that you're an incel and I had men that had

Maya (split label)normal non Anonymous profiles that agreed with me men that worked out were fit I mean I don't know about their character as a person but that was just cuz I know that second part kind of

Brian Atlasperturbed you a little bit no well you mean your reply yeah not well pull it back up really quick and this is where we disagree so I guess I'm a beta beta

Brian Atlasincel internet Anon but tab on over so this is this is what I responded scroll up a little bit scroll

Brian Atlasup or here I can't read it though so just scroll down a little bit or put us in the corner okay in the in the corner the corner works the corner

Brian Atlasworks could just scrolled a second okay the truth is so this is me almost just just hide it just hide it please okay the truth is women don't want a strong masculine bold man they

Brian Atlaswant a soft feminine submissive man who will be masculine and dominant for her so that's where I disagree with because you're saying the truth is men don't want a soft feminine Quiet Woman They want bold competent dominant woman

Brian Atlaswho will be feminine submiss for him but like if I use your own language like your same formatting and I reverse it would you agree with my statement is the truth is women don't want a strong

Brian Atlasmasculine bold man they want a soft feminine submissive man who will be masculine dominant for her absolutely not that completely misconstrues my whole point of what my original tweet was but I'm literally flipping but but

Maya (split label)when women and men are not equal right so you can't necessarily negate like what I said in terms of men and women's interactions and like perspectives and our psychology it's not the same so to

Mason Gregoireflip it in the same manner and apply what you said to women for men is just it's just not the same because men and women have different psychology well essentially what you said is you want you men want a woman

Mason Gregoirewho's dominant like in the world and then but they want her to be submissive to them yes no that's just not true I agree it it is true it is true and I'll

Maya (split label)tell they don't want a com woman there is a lot of men like you you didn't agree with me and I think that's because cerebrally a lot of men get caught up on the first part of my tweet which is men

Maya (split label)don't want a soft feminine woman and that's a very generalized blanket statement that I agree is a generalized blanket statement but cerebrally a men think oh yeah soft feminine woman that's

TTS Donation Readerwhat I want you know but I humans Nickelodeon donated $200 women can't handle being wrong unless 2% of the people that agree with

TTS Donation Readerthem are saying what they want to hear to hate [ __ ] them or has a fake profile picture anyways um you were saying as thank you Nickelodeon uh you're saying

Maya (split label)as humans as humans right we're complex creatures we're mind body and soul spirit so we have our cereal mind we

Maya (split label)have our primal urges as our body and we have our Soul and Spirit urges and Men cerebrally maybe they'll be like yeah I want sof fem and woman but there's something Primal about an alpha female

Maya (split label)that really gets a man like going erroneous erroneous I I I do think it is like okay so when you brought up the tweet on the podcast your

Maya (split label)co-host or whatever he said I agree with that in the sense of conquer right there's who said who said that who the

Maya (split label)CEO the watch CEO guy disavow I disavow his I think what you're talking as men no but as men you you're you're a leader right you go out into the world and you're conquer you're

Maya (split label)going to build yourself up and you know x y and D that same principle can be applied to women and say back in the caveman days do you want a soft F feminine woman waiting back at you at the cave while a lion's attacking her

Maya (split label)and your baby while you're out getting the bison or do you want a confident Alpha woman that's going to be able to fend for your what no no no I think what

Mason GregoireI think you're a little confused on competence versus dominance I want a competent woman I do not want a dominant woman I want to woman who knows her stuff what she believes in what she

Mason Gregoireknows is true I don't want a woman who is like super masculine and her attributes super dominant super like I'm Alpha it's like a turnoff no I want a competent woman I want a woman who's

Mason Gregoireintelligent who knows what she's doing but I also want a soft feminine woman you can be competent and soft at the same time absolutely she should be soft and feminine for you but wait so hold on

Kikoum what so should a man your woman should be agreeable to you but do you want your woman being agreeable with every man exactly she's just talk about soft so that's why I think it's like it's a well that would mean that would

Kikomean that she's incompetent because then because then she's a pushover lot of men say when they say soft femine woman that's what she's trying to say or or or bringing up from something from the very

Taylorbeginning you guys said you wanted a woman that would come to you first is that not that's not a soft sweet feminine woman exactly exactly soft femin women do not do that they I've talked to so many women that will not go and approach a guy because they don't

Avery Jennerlike that stuff they think it's like she just said it's masculine to do that and she's soft and sweet maybe it's because they want to be dominant what Domin I feel like that would be the opposite that would be the

Brian Atlascomplete opposite I know I I don't know these are not contradictory positions to hold to say in some instances it's desirable for woman to take initiative and I think we already

TTS Donation Readermade the caveat that women can absolutely take initiative in a in a feminine way hold on we'll donated

TTS Donation Reader$200 it's 100% woman's fault women decide intercourse therefore you bear the responsibility you have a clock

TTS Donation Readertherefore you must Choose Wisely your virtue signaling is pathetic you want autonomy yeah yeah disagree yo Alvin Sam good to see you in the chat man much

Brian Atlasappreciated I mean women do control access to sex so I mean I think a greater responsibility falls on women when it comes to that but we are that's going back to our previous conversation but do you want to respond yeah I I'd

Maya (split label)argue that cuz I had somebody try to like say that to me on Twitter and I would say you know that a lot of women May the way that they conduct themselves in society not that I agree with it but

Maya (split label)could come from generations of trauma that came from men and going back to women being the ones that um get to say whether you have access or not that

Maya (split label)wasn't the case just in some countries that's not the case now and just not even that long ago that wasn't the case um talking about like generational trauma and the effects that it has on

Maya (split label)women today when the man the father was the one that chose the hus husband so you know women conducting themselves in society now is from years and

Maya (split label)generations of Trauma from men and you say we're the ones that picked our partner but in some countries today and not even that long ago it was the father who picked the partner for the daughter

Kikowell they're and you're saying that's generational trauma which they VI cuz they'll say men are The Gatekeepers to relationships and women are The Gatekeepers of sex that's what their whole ideology is so their point is yes

Kikomen pick who they're going to be in a relationship with but women are in control of just like casual intercourse wait so okay your argument is like are you talking about arranged marriages

Maya (split label)yeah so like the argument that women have control over like so we're the ones at fault right we're the ones at fault because we are the ones that have control over whether we allow a man to have access to our body or not okay I

Brian Atlasmean if you want to talk about historical mating practices we can but I mean arranged marriages have been predominantly done away with in the west yeah so I don't know how to talk about

Brian Atlaswhat's going on in India right now I don't care don't know it's irrelevant to the conversation at hand to be fair to those generational trauma though I don't know to be fair to those arranged

Mason Gregoiremarriage societies they seem to have a better uh uh I guess like their divorce rate is a lot better than our they're also extremely misogynic they're very very AB like

Maya (split label)they're like and I'm not I'm not a feminist I don't like to use the word misogynist but those countries are really bad we're talking genital mutilation we're talking really crazy

Mason Gregoirestuff okay so aside from like some men who are extremely abusive the Outlook in the western Society to see a marriage as

Mason Gregoirejust like a it's you like it until you don't like it until you're not happy and then you can get out that's actually extremely destructive to your own personal growth the other person's

Mason Gregoirepersonal growth so in that in the society where it's not it's like extremely taboo to divorce so I mean it's it's keeps it protects people from

Mason Gregoireexperiencing um divorce in those countries because when you kind of put two people in a pressure cooker you're not allowed to leave you are forced to figure this out now certain men will

Mason Gregoiretake advantage of that and to those men I I like I do not like those men I mean I would choose that they'd be punished I mean there needs to be something done

Mason Gregoireabout those men agreed but majority speaking in those countries that's not the case it is the case majority actually I I mean I come from one of those countries I live in I I lived in

Mason GregoireMorocco for my high school years and most of the families that I met most of the couples that I met who were arranged marriages forced to be married initially they were extremely like I I've never

TTS Donation Readereven met this woman I got married to them but now it's like I I can't see my life without this person because they were forced to keep that one Motorsports donated

TTS Donation Reader$200 arranged marriages tend to last longer and Report higher satisfaction so do not knock it until you try it feminism has failed you the patriarchy stands ready to help Choose Wisely and

Mason Gregoirebe better well put yeah I I totally agree it does have um there are higher satisfactions in in arranged marriages now I'm not saying I'm a proponent of

Mason Gregoirelet's bring back the arranged marriage but there is something to it like there is some there's an element in there that is important what is that element it's the element of I cannot leave this you

Mason Gregoirecould have that without Arrangement well we don't have that we don't have those enforcement mechanisms in place right now actually there are there are

Mason Gregoireincentives to get divorced now so like if we had punishments if we had uh neg maybe not punishments but negative effects there would be less likelihood of people vying or opting for divorce no

Brian Atlasyeah I agree I mean I think people definitely think divorce is the easy way outa wor nightmare yeah yeah me too having kids and then getting div 100% so going back to your original statement though Nick if you pull it up really

Brian Atlasquick so your original state statement was the truth is men don't want a soft feminine Quiet Woman They want a bold competent dominant woman who will be feminine and submissive for him MH

Brian Atlaswell how can okay they want how can you both be bold competent and dominant but also be feminine and submissive I think I do it I think I do it too I would you

Brian Atlasguys would categorize me as bold and all that stuff but with my boyfriend I right he's right like I don't these are just contradictory statements you say they don't want a soft feminine quiet woman

Maya (split label)but they want one who will be feminine and submissive for him so I'm a little confused I think because like I was saying like before

Maya (split label)like a lot of men didn't agree with me but there were some men in the comments that were like yo like you're reading my psychology like that's crazy like that you're speaking things that I think like and feel and I think it goes back to

Maya (split label)what I was saying is cerebrally a man is going to want is going to think yeah I want a nice soft feminine woman but there's something Primal in him that you know your subconscious it doesn't

Maya (split label)connect your Primal subconscious isn't connected to your your conscious and your surreal mind unless you force it to be connected and a lot of men are living in like sexual like like uh backup

Maya (split label)because they don't have those two things connected they don't really know what they want maybe they want this for marriage but they want something else in the bedroom or something um so yeah well

Mason GregoireI mean the the aspect of dominance that makes a man a man is like he he puts himself out there he is like not extremely vocal but he's strong in his opinions and beliefs and he takes charge

Mason Gregoirehe takes leadership um and we don't want that in a woman now I I will grant you like we want a competent woman we want someone who is smart who's able to read a situation and know how to react how to

Mason Gregoirerespond how to pull themselves away from something that's dangerous that's good like I'm not going to engage in relationship sh with other men when I'm not interested in them uh romantically

Mason Gregoirelike that's protecting themselves from uh men that seek to gain something from them even though they have no interest I love that but that's competence it's not dominance I I there's something there's

Brian Atlasyou wouldn't want an alpha female that's the alpha of the other females what is an alpha female what does that what does that mean what does that even mean so two questions what does it mean to be an alpha female and how did you just even

Maya (split label)come to the initial conclusion that men want this I've felt it I well how you feel how you feel I've experienced it like I feel it I experience it like wait

Maya (split label)have So when you say you felt it you mean men have been attracted to you there because okay so I'll throw back to like internet culture 2016 I was extremely extremely political I was in

Maya (split label)college back in 2016 during the election I was extremely political and and open about my my views my conservative views yeah and that was very it ruffled a lot

Maya (split label)of feathers like for people in my own peer group but there were men that were steadfast Obama lovers and you know

Maya (split label)Trump is literally the end of the world and but I I still have them in my DMs to this day the LI lib dudes yeah well I don't think I don't think the fact that

Maya (split label)so maybe simps well hold on this would but these are men these are like these are not like these are very successful men like these are and it's something about the mere fact that I was willing

Brian Atlasto go into like a college party and talk about My Views and be what about the conservative men though MH I mean I have no problem with them either no but you you said that in 2016 you were outspoken

Brian Atlaswith your conservative values online and all these liberal men were showing interest in you liberal men who are pro who are perhaps more feminine and

Maya (split label)they're seeking a dominant woman I mean possibly but I had both I had both what I'm saying is that the things that they would tell me and the fact that we're sitting here 6 years later and they're

Brian Atlasstill in my DMs telling me the same thing telling you what that they're into you what do you mean what are they telling you yeah they'll take care of me they're this text you know person is that because like how how are let's make

Maya (split label)sure we're not attributing things to things that aren't actually there they're into you because you're a dominant woman I mean that's what they've said yeah they they've told you

Maya (split label)yeah like they really respect that I'm I am me unapologetically and I'm able to be myself unapologetically whether that goes with society and what Society tells

Brian Atlasyou or not let me ask you a question do you think men lie to get laid yes absolutely so if a woman for example like if if I was inclined to try to bed

Brian Atlasa woman and she was a boss babe I don't think it would help my chances for me to be like listen I don't give a [ __ ] about your career I don't care about your ambition you think it's going to hurt my chances

Brian Atlasof getting laid so here's the thing you got to remember men will lie and they'll they'll gas you up oh you you want to do XYZ you're here's these things that are

Brian Atlasimportant to you they're going to uh cater to you they're going to uh I'm trying to think of the adopt those um they're going to there's a specific term

Maya (split label)for it but it's leaving my they're just essentially going to lie mhm not guys have never lied you to get [ __ ] no no and that's a possibility but at the end

Maya (split label)of the day here we are six years later I mean and you're still hooked like I haven't given it's bit anecdotal it's a bit anec she's getting at the point that I think I believe overall most men want

Kikoa soft feminine all this about a woman but there is a healthy balance right because a lot of people correlate a soft feminine woman woman to a doormat and which I think she's what she's saying is you don't have to be a doormat to be a

Kikosoft feminine woman cuz you can still have your I think dominant is the word that's striking everybody out but like you can still be have your opinions and know who you are and have your own thoughts I think that's the overall point is yeah I don't think I would

Mason Gregoireagree with that I just don't C categorize that as dominant say competent like reserved and I'll tell you when when I put out this tweet it was a it was very random I did not

Maya (split label)expect this to blow up like it did like it was a very spur of the moment just it's Twitter like I'm just rambling just same [ __ ] CU so like maybe my

Maya (split label)articulation wasn't fully like there but yeah it's it's an experience that I can't deny that I've had in my life being an outspoken woman well I here's

Brian Atlasthe thing right is is that any woman kind of almost regardless of how she's presenting herself whether it's very feminine or even she's very masculine if

Brian Atlasshe's an attractive woman and even if she's not an attractive woman if she's even average women are inundated with sexual op the the degree to women have sexual

Brian Atlasoptionality is comparative to men is wild an average woman has the equivalent sexual optionality is

Brian Atlasessentially a male celebrity um and so the issue there though is that you might confuse that sexual optionality or even romantic

Brian Atlasoptionality for the potential for long-term partnership and I would argue you a man might be willing

Alex (engaged)to was that the popcorn what was that popc is it spilled yeah okay well done

Alex (engaged)hold on damn that's the [ __ ] 50 dkp minus what the [ __ ] was that [ __ ]

Maya (split label)anyways um so okay uh what was I saying I forgot whatever well I mean I've been in longterm I've only been in long-term relationships I don't do casual dating

Brian Atlasso I mean however the way I present myself has obviously been enough to secure long-term partnership sure but I mean the and it's not clear to me if you are like do you

Taylorconsider yourself a dominant woman not in my relationship but but you're assertive yeah you're assertive dominant is the wrong word I think you're assertive cuz I felt like I'm the same way but in my relationship I do not talk

Maya (split label)to men that way I have stuff talk to that going back like I'm very traditional I want to cook for my man I want to serve my man I want to clean for my man something I've also talked to one

Mason Gregoireof my buddies about a lot is does does a woman respect men in her life so if you if a woman is going out of her way to respect men then that's also super

Mason Gregoireattractive so it's not like the man aren't respecting her but there's like a difference to that knowing like I'm I'm going to treat this man with respect like I I know that men are men

Mason Gregoireare uh I guess naturally dominant natural leaders I respect that about them there's something about that that's different than me um and then I love when a man like treats a woman

Mason Gregoiredifferently like I'm not going to lay hands on a woman um I guess it depends on the scenario like if she comes at me with a knife then maybe I have to do something about it but uh I'm going to treat a woman differently than I would a

Mason Gregoireman so there is that difference let's get through the Tweet yeah there's more there's more I think there's there's more oh gosh but wait there's more gosh

Maya (split label)I did was not expecting you guys really went out here on something here good thing my Twitter got banned in 2016 but uh all right men won't break up with you they'll just turn extremely toxic women

Maya (split label)won't break up with you they'll just find someone else agreed interesting we'll that's coming from longterm you know dating okay go ahead I

Maya (split label)love masculinity and I love men but I will never blame women for the state of society we should all acknowledge the need to do better on both sides but it doesn't matter at the end of the day men lead and women follow yes but you'll

Maya (split label)never blame women I will sit here and have a conversation one-on-one with somebody and tell her the the the woes of what she's doing for society ultimately at

Maya (split label)the end of day it's men's fault yeah I and and I'm not a feminist I'm I love men I love I love men and I respect women well let me ask you this so you're

Brian Atlasconservative right so and not advocating that we necessarily do this but it would be the case for example if and again I'm

Brian Atlasnot advocating for this if we were to if we were to pull back women's ability to vote M

Maya (split label)well conservative parties would start winning elections would you be in favor of that yeah I think majority of women

Maya (split label)think emotionally and emotions don't have a place in governing Society so so you want to repeal the 19th I I I personally don't because I I as an

Brian Atlasindividual I like the way I vote I think I vote good for society so let's let's say there's a 40-year-old let's say there's a 40-year-old man who's who's very well-versed in politics he has a deep understanding of various political

Brian Atlasissues he researches uh various you know the the positions of uh his local politicians his State politicians and his Federal politicians he has he's he's smart he's

Brian Atlaswell researched um if you want men to lead how can we lead if an 18-year-old woman who has no knowledge of politics can essentially

Kikoneutralize agree that 40-year-old man's vote I agree by voting for what the opposite of whatever he votes for I agree how do you why is it any different as a 18-year-old Woman versus 18-year-old man I feel like both of them

Maya (split label)will have the same men men are more likely like even at 18 years old to like not vote I don't know what like the no no no no not vote in ways that are not

Maya (split label)like like I said women are just more emotional they're more likely to vote for like social welfare things that are maybe bad for the economy um I I don't know what 18-year-old boys you were hanging out around but the 18-year- boys

KikoI was around I wouldn't want them voting on these issues either they were not doing their due diligence not saying that woman were no I mean at the end of the day the voting age should be like 25 exactly I don't think this should be a

Kikogendered argument I think this is an argument over the voting age is too young if anything but then it's ad I do think we should have that right so it's like at the end of the day men lead and

Brian Atlaswomen follow well one issue that I do see is that and this is kind of w even within the realm of relationships but in order to be a leader there has to be

Brian Atlaspeople who are willing to follow you because if everybody's just mutinous not willing to follow then you can't lead like in the dance if somebody's the leader they have to

Brian Atlasfollow if you're both trying to lead it's [ __ ] up and so it occurs to me that even women will say they want a leader but they're not prepared to

Brian Atlasfollow I think maybe the person they're following isn't respectable enough well no because with feminism it's put it's like implanted this other programming of

Maya (split label)like don't listen to men right men are evil we extreme we're at an extreme at this point in society unfortunately like if I'm I'm trying to think of an example

Brian Atlashere but like I remember I was dating this girl long time ago and um I was like um I was sick or something and I've been dating her for months and I was

Brian Atlaslike hey um can you make me some food or something politely but I was like hey I'm I'm not feeling good can you go make me some food even even when sick and

Brian Atlasshe's like kind of like the feminist gears were turning like should I do this labor for my boyfriend like he's asked and

Maya (split label)like that's that's how it is a lot of time Perhaps Perhaps I don't know but that is not a woman that is willing to

Kikoserve her man that is not I mean if she was a woman willing to serve her man she would have cooked for him cuz he was SI without ask though you can tell what kind of girl wouldn't serve you wouldn't do things

Taylorfor you like do you like to cook and clean her answer is I'm not a slave you already know right then and there she's not that type of girl how would your relationship like Dad brother before so before you knew all this you know before I learned things yes learn the ways of

Brian Atlasworld learn the ways of the monks all right is there another twe tweet all right we have some chats here we have Kiara can you read this

Kikoone read your Bible if you have questions about how to be a good wife or how to be a good husband I recommend referring to how do you pronounce that Ephesians Ephesians I don't want to do it wrong Ephesians 5:21

Brian Atlasto 33 the cool thing about God is he gave us all the answers to our problems amen go thank you read your Bible appreciate it and then we have Jordan Roy is Royale thank you man' appreciate it I kind of get what she is saying but

Kikoat the same time this logic is the same logic of having an only fans and claiming to be a Christian stop the dulu also hi Kitty hi Laura you Mason chrisis King chrisis King indeed boom he kind of

Brian Atlasgets what I'm saying there you go there you go let me get into some more of my pre-show notes Here we have let's

Brian Atlassee uh wait hold on oh finishing off with you it's Angela right Maya but oh on your TW your Twitter Angelina

Brian AtlasAngelina okay you said in your Twitter bio it says gifted Divine protection for my honest intention yes what's that what's that mean I'm a very spiritual

Maya (split label)person and I believe that if you go about your life conducting yourself with honest intentions you know like kind of like I was saying before you're you're molding your subcon you're forming your subconscious and your conscious into one

Maya (split label)so that you're not driven by egotistical you know uh drives and X Y and Z you live your life in an honest way honest with yourself honest with say God or

Maya (split label)ether or prime Creator or whoever it is that you you know sure whatever if you live yourself honestly you know cuz there's a lot of people that maybe go back here and you know oh well let me

Maya (split label)steal something and oh it's not going to do any yeah grifter right good faith and and I have a supreme you know belief that my honest intention in my life and

Brian Atlasthe way that I conduct my life provides me Divine protection also mentioned something about astrology who here believes in astrology show of hands any astrology people fun but I don't

Avery Jennerastrology astrology astrology but not like zodiac signs if that makes sense is that what astrology is it goes deeper than that she talking about the birth charts and all that stuff you also said you have a gangster bloodline what does

Maya (split label)that mean my dad was in the mafia are you Italian no I'm Mexican oh the Mexican Mafia are you supposed to say that he

Brian Atlaspassed away when I was a baby oh okay so you have a gangster bloodline it is what it is you put you put in your Twitter bio it is what it is mobes the what Mob Wives mob I guess that's they brag about

Kikotheir husbands when they in jail and once once they go to jail once they're always like it's like once you are in a gang and you go to jail once you always going to be categorized as a gang member as a mafia member so it doesn't really matter if you're a part of that it's the

Maya (split label)things you do will get you in trouble word okay criminy cool are you a gangster though not anymore anymore so you were Ren you were

Maya (split label)a gangster I was influenced a little bit in my younger days like did you gang time no I didn't know do no time my I she didn't do no time she didn't I

Maya (split label)didn't do no time she didn't do no time no but I wased out I was really young you know were you in a gang no no were you Associated Affiliated I was Affiliated yeah with which oh I'm not

Maya (split label)going to go into that but what is what are like a I I was dating somebody and um yeah he

Kikoended up going to prison for life at 16 and like so yeah I it's something that I hold California because if you that's going to get appealed soon because they've already claimed that miners cannot be sentenced to life so soon he

Kikomight be coming out I don't know because it might not over Trump the gang chart like the fact that it's Gang Related yeah but they've they've made it in Supreme Court they've overruled that I think in the last year or two we won't

Brian Atlaswe don't need to get into it you can't lock away a child for life is a minor yeah he got charged as an adult yeah that's what they're they were revoking that right do oh we have we have some new pre-show Nots here we're Switching

Brian Atlasgears over here to alexandraa so uh you said in your pre-show notes you wrote when I started dating my now fiance he was considered homeless when we met and his fans would message me not to date

Brian Atlashim but then we wait his fans said not to date him he has fans yeah he does have fans still Yes uh but then when we started doing only fans together the week we started dating and you said I thought it was okay if your man is

Alex (engaged)managing it but I don't like doing only fans oh you don't like doing only wrot I don't even remember what I wrote honestly

Brian Atlasokay um I what what what P wants the smoke from I don't want the smoke that's worse than I thought

Alex (engaged)definitely okay that's worse than I thought all right thanks Kiko go ahead go ahead okay what was your question well you said you don't like doing only um I well no I do I don't know how to

Alex (engaged)answer that honestly it was his idea I was right no I don't want to say any okay you should never BR your own man never talk about your partner online messed up I I don't want to say anything

Alex (engaged)about that traditional okay you said but you said you guys stopped doing it because you want to have we did we did stop oh so you don't do it anymore we we I don't know what we are doing honestly

Brian AtlasI think we are doing it no but you said we oh well at some point maybe you stop back up again you're back up okay with it okay you said uh also in your pre-show notes a month after proposing

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