3 RUDE GIRLS KICKED OUT?! Ragequit Keeko Cat Fight?! ØF Girl VlRGlN?! (CAP???) | Dating Talk #149

Date: 2024-04-03

Duration: 5h 59m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlex (DT149-engaged)>

AAurora (in 4k)>

MMaya (DT149-cannabis)>

AAvery Jenner >

AAlex (DT149-massage)>

KKitty (DT149)>

MMason Gregoire >

TTaylor (DT149)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Mason Gregoire(guest)

SPEAKER_02Maya(guest)

SPEAKER_03Aurora(guest)

SPEAKER_04Alex (engaged)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Avery Jenner(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Alex (massage) / Kitty(guest)

SPEAKER_10Maya (split label)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Taylor(guest)

SPEAKER_12Kiko(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions round. Panel includes Aurora and Avery Jenner (returning from DT#156), Taylor (returning with prior beef against Kiko), Mason (returning co-host), Kiko (recurring co-host), and new guests Alex (engaged), Maya (cannabis), Alex (massage/fashion), and Kitty (hair/photographer).

“"all right we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"”

QuoteAurora reveals she has an ongoing all-day Discord call with her "boyfriend" — she is actively in the call during the podcast right now.

“"I think we're still in a call right now"”

QuoteMason Gregoire reveals he is a virgin, saving himself for marriage. Goes into Air Force Special Reconnaissance; pipeline is 2 years. Not looking for a relationship right now due to deployment timeline.

“"I'm a virgin I'm waiting for marriage"”

ControversyTaylor vs. Kiko confrontation. Taylor confronts Kiko for making YouTube videos about her. Multiple heated exchanges. Taylor: "I watch four podcasts with you talking about me so let's do this." Near-physical altercation avoided. Kiko offers boxing match for $10K. Brian mediates. Eventually resolved with handshake.

“"I watch four podcasts with you talking about me so let's do this"”

ControversyKiko immediately fires back at Taylor upon arrival: "keep the energy you had before remember keep that energy." Tension escalates rapidly from opening moments of Taylor's entry.

“"keep the energy you had before remember keep that energy"”

QuoteKiko reveals she has been approached multiple times by people trying to get her to sabotage the Whatever Podcast, but declined every time.

“"you know how many people have reached out to me trying to get me to sabotage you"”

QuoteKiko apologizes to Taylor, admitting she did the online videos "for show / for laughs." Taylor accepts the apology. They shake hands and reconcile.

“"I was doing most of the stuff for laughs that's why I am sitting up here laughing"”

OtherTaylor accepts Kiko's apology and departs the show early. "I'm glad you said that you did it for show I respect that a lot."

“"I'm glad you said that you did it for show I respect that a lot thank you"”

OtherBody count round. Maya: lost count; deleted list; estimates 30+; probably under 50. Aurora: 5 (claims to be a virgin in real life despite 100+ e-body count). Avery: 8. Alex (engaged): 5. Kiko: under 10. Mason: 0 (virgin). Kitty: not disclosed. Alex (massage): very unclear / lost count.

“"what's everybody's body count starting with Madison"”

QuoteMaya admits she lost count of her body count, deleted her list, estimates it's around 30 (and says 30 seems reasonable as a guess), though she does not confirm the exact number.

“"I don't know the number though so I don't cuz people are going to be like oh yeah it's 75 100"”

QuoteKitty reveals her ex damaged her car, they reconciled for 3 weeks, then he immediately cheated again and asked her to sign an NDA to get the car money. She refused.

“"he literally told me to delete all our photos say that we never dated and to sign an NDA"”

QuoteKitty reveals she was a professional dominatrix at Pandora's Box NYC. Had a pet/slave she walked on a leash with "Property of Kitty" collar at her New Jersey bartending job. Minimum consultation alone was $700; full sessions in the thousands.

“"I would literally chain him up and walk him around"”

ControversyBrian kicks two (later says three) guests out of the show for repeatedly making disruptive faces at each other while Avery was speaking. "look if you guys want to leave then just get out go ahead." The guests leave immediately. Brian explains they had been doing this for hours.

“"look if you guys want to leave then just get out go ahead you guys can leave go"”

QuoteBrian defends not paying guests: mutual promotional benefit (similar to being invited on Joe Rogan). Notes the kicked-out guests had reached out to the show themselves and then complained about show length. Calls out their sense of entitlement.

“"if Joe Rogan invited me on his podcast would that not be an opportunity"”

OtherAvery thanks Brian for giving her the floor; explains she had many DMs after the last episode wondering why she did not talk much. Notes she got new clients (tooth gems, nails, hair) from the show exposure even when she barely spoke.

“"I actually really do appreciate it I had a lot of people DM me after the last show"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Notable: Aurora and Avery Jenner returning from DT#156. Taylor arrives late (about 1.5 hours late per Kiko); tension between Taylor and Kiko is immediate. Mason challenges guests on feminist labels. Aurora reveals she has a Discord boyfriend she is in a call with all day. Mason reveals he is a virgin going into Air Force Special Warfare.

Relationship status round

Brian goes around table for relationship status. Alex: engaged (marrying next month). Kiko: in relationship since January 2023. Aurora: single; has Discord boyfriend; on a call with him during the podcast. Maya: in relationship a couple months. Avery: single since November (~6 months). Alex (massage): single since November; had on-again/off-again ex situation for 3 weeks. Mason: single; virgin, waiting for marriage; going into Air Force. Taylor: single for 2 years; longest relationship 6 years.

Aurora Discord boyfriend discussion

Aurora reveals she has an ongoing Discord call with her "boyfriend" all day. She is actively in the call during the podcast. Prefers online relationships over in-person; finds discord guys attractive for anonymity. Has had multiple Discord boyfriends; sometimes likes them genuinely. Said she is antisocial, isolates at home, plays Fortnite. Brian probes: not on any dating apps; rarely goes out. Mason: would not call online-only arrangement a "boyfriend."

Feminist label round

Mason asks who has ever identified as a feminist. Most say no or qualified yes in the past. Kiko: first wave feminism yes, modern feminism no. Aurora: no. Maya: not really. Avery: no. Alex (engaged): no. Taylor: complicated; had some identification with it. Mason argues modern feminism is net negative; Brian agrees.

Height / short vs. tall guy hypothetical

Viewer TTS asks guests to choose: 6'1" fit rich attractive guy with terrible outlook/attitude, or 5'2" chubby $30K/year 4-inch penis but positive outlook and confidence. Most lean toward the short guy with good attitude or claim they would stay single. Aurora: would pick the "douchebag" depending on how ugly the short one is. Alex (massage): short one with better attitude. Avery: short one with better attitude (gun to head). Alex (engaged): refused to answer (disrespectful to fiance). Discussion of whether engaging with hypotheticals while in a relationship is disrespectful.

Taylor vs Kiko confrontation

Taylor (SPEAKER_11) and Kiko (SPEAKER_12) have extended conflict. Taylor: Kiko made YouTube videos about her; wants to face her directly. Kiko: offered boxing match to Taylor for $10K (Mason relayed the offer). Multiple heated exchanges including personal insults and near-physical altercation. Brian mediates, clarifies the boxing match offer was meant as an organized event, not a street fight. Taylor accuses Kiko of fake niceness in person vs. online aggression. Kiko says DHS/manosphere investigation comments were about regulation, not the show specifically. Resolution: Kiko apologizes (did it "for show/laughs"); Taylor accepts; they shake hands.

Christian / OnlyFans contradiction discussion

Brian pulls up Avery's Instagram and OnlyFans (link in bio). Both Aurora and Avery wear cross necklaces in their photos. Brian asks if they think God approves of their content. Both acknowledge God does not approve but say he "understands." Mason invokes Rich Young Ruler parable. Discussion of how to reconcile Christian faith with sex work.

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Brian reads viewer request to rate looks 1-10 ("Stiffler" question). Avery: 8. Alex (massage) / Kitty merged: 10 then 5 then 6-7 (unreliable due to speaker merge). Maya: 10 (says she would not change anything; would not change lips even when pushed). Alex (engaged): 10. Aurora: 7 (insecurities include forehead, wants breast augmentation). Mason: 8 (not insecurity; objective evaluation). Extended debate on whether self-rating reflects insecurity or honest objective assessment. Discussion of whether most women look better at 28 vs 18.

Will you be more attractive in 10 years?

Brian asks if guests will be more physically attractive in 10 years all else being equal. Aurora: no (will be less attractive; will get BOTOX at 28 for wrinkles). Maya: yes, probably. Mason: explains peak attractiveness argument — women in their early 20s have peak mate-value. Brian: prefers his current self. Avery: better in 10 years. Alex (massage): better in 10 years. Kiko: discussion of Millennial vs. Gen Z aging trends. Extended debate on objective aging vs. styling/presentation.

Plastic surgery / natural body supremacist debate

Brian declares himself a "natural body supremacist." Would prefer flat chest over implants, no-BBL over BBL, small natural lips over filler. Jeff Bezos plastic surgery girlfriend cited as counterexample. Mason: most men prefer natural look; women get plastic surgery partly for female competition. Maya: nothing wrong with surgery if it makes you happy. Aurora: does not have lip filler (contested by Brian). Kiko: would get tummy tuck after children. Debate on whether cosmetic surgery for post-birth body issues is acceptable. Mason and Brian form "natural body supremacist" alliance.

Trans / gender hypothetical

Brian poses hypothetical: trans woman (no bottom surgery) vs. trans man (no bottom surgery) — which would you choose? Brian: would choose trans man (technically still "straight"). Kiko and Mason debate what constitutes heterosexual attraction in the scenario. Leads into Kiko and Taylor trans discussion / Kiko's pronoun stance.

Taylor departure and reconciliation

Brian announces Taylor needs to leave (~3:08:58 into show). Before leaving, attempts Kiko-Taylor reconciliation. Kiko admits she did things "for show / for laughs." Taylor accepts, says she respects the honesty; no beef if there is a genuine apology. They shake hands. Taylor exits. Maddie (production staff) joins the panel.

Only-fans girls and first date payment debate

Brian argues women who do OnlyFans are not deserving of traditional chivalrous treatment (man pays first date). Alex (engaged) and Aurora strongly disagree: work is unrelated to dating treatment. Mason: only traditional women deserve traditional treatment. Extended debate on whether sex work disqualifies someone from receiving gentlemanly behavior. Brian's position: if body count over 30, man should not be expected to pay first date.

Body count round

Brian asks body counts going around the table. Brian to Mason: already said it; 0 (virgin). Avery: 8. Alex (massage): 5 or ambiguous (she says she lost count; then says "around 30" is reasonable guess; then says it may be below 50; very unclear). Alex (engaged): 5. Maya: lost count; deleted her list; 30+ estimate; probably under 50; over 20; "a lot." Kiko: under 10 (confirmed by Mason on show). Aurora: 5 (real life virgin claim earlier; e-body count 100+). Kitty: declined ("not that high for my age"). Brian: did not disclose. Notable: Aurora had claimed to be a virgin in real life earlier in the show; this was contested by other guests.

Kitty car smash and ex drama

Kitty shares ex-boyfriend smashed her car (video shown on screen). They reunited and hooked up for 3 weeks hoping he would pay for the car. He then went to sleep with someone else. He asked Kitty to delete all photos and sign an NDA to get car money; she refused. Ex is currently seeing an escort despite claiming to prefer younger women with low body count.

Dominatrix discussion

Kitty reveals she was a professional dominatrix at Pandora's Box NYC. Had a "slave/pet" she walked on a leash with "Property of Kitty" collar at her NJ bar job. Maya also reveals she was a professional dominatrix. Discussion of client demographics: alpha men, executives, athletes — all types. Hot firefighter client had babysitter kink (OTK). Consultation alone cost $700+ minimum; full sessions thousands. Avery notes dominatrix work paid more than OnlyFans.

Avery's LA dating scene monologue

Avery speaks about LA dating culture: most men she encounters are only interested in sex. Two attempts at dating during 6-month celibacy period resulted in sex-forward interactions. Online dating also same pattern. Many women she knows in LA have stopped going out to parties/underground raves because the environment is too sex-forward. Post-COVID social skills have degraded, especially for Gen Z who were 14 during lockdowns. Kiko adds: "bimbo culture" has led men to assume all women are hypersexualized. Avery says she is not going back out there; content with where she is.

Three guests kicked out

Two unnamed guests who had been making disruptive eye contact / faces at each other for hours are asked to leave by Brian (~342:09). Brian tells them to "kindly go" and their security guard can take them back to LA. Brian says a third guest also left at this point. Context: Avery was trying to share her story about LA dating scene and sex-forward culture. Brian later explains: they had been doing this for 2-3 hours; he had given them passes. All three had reached out to the show themselves to appear.

Closing / end of show

Brian wraps up; closing comments from remaining guests. Recap of why the two girls were kicked out. Discussion of whether guests get paid (they do not; Brian argues mutual promotional benefit). Brian notes Andrew Wilson coming back for future shows. Twitch raid to a WoW Season of Discovery streamer (Stranglethorn Vale Blood Moon event). Final goodnight.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasthe views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever podcast and uh oh uh our my apologies uh that we're starting late here we uh had uh no not just hey but we

Alex (engaged)had a couple people running a bit late so my apologies guys all right we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead I'm Alex and I'm 23 years old and I'm from

Alex (engaged)New York but I live in California now all right welcome and oh my occupation yeah go ahead okay um I do only fans with my fiance your F babysit too what's

Brian Atlasthat I babysit too and I do only fans of my those are not related I'm hoping um I do both okay you do it with your fiance yeah

Kikooverboard humor okay cool what about you uh my name is Kiko I'm 24 I live in Santa Barbara and I'm a bartender and a full-time student what do you uh what do you studing

Auroracriminology okay what about you um my name is Aurora I live in LA um I'm 18 and I do only fans welcome thank you my name is Maya um I'm 26 I live in Los

MayaAngeles and I do compliance in administrative for cannabis for cannabis yeah the Cannabis industry cultivations yeah okay that pretty cool

Avery Jennerum I'm Avery I'm 19 I'm from LA and I do only fans and I'm also a student all right uh what are you studying Communications all right what about you I'm Alex I'm 23 I live in LA and right

Alex (massage) / Kittynow I'm a massage therapist and I have my own fashion line okay hi I'm Kitty I'm 33 and I do hair and I'm a professional photographer and I live in LA now I'm originally from New

Mason GregoireJersey uh my name is Mason greguar I am 27 years old uh first and foremost I forgot to do this last time first and foremost I am a Christ follower um uh

Mason Gregoiresecondly I'm a competitive powerlifter and uh actually my career is somewhat changing I am a traditional mechanical engineer but uh I am going into Air Force Special Warfare um so that's

Taylorcurrently what I'm up to these days okay what's up y'all I'm Taylor it's Tay Tay baby I'm from the big La you guys already know I'm a me mental

Taylorhealth Advocate I'm back what's up Kiko what do you keep looking at uhoh dude um I I've been looking at every keep the energy you had before remember

Taylorkeep that energy I watch four podcasts with you talking about me so let's do this out hot welcome honey I'm here thank youcome in the room I was just

Kikookay yeah don't act shocked seriously I'm not acting I'm you are okay I was just coming in Good Vibes

Brian Atlas[Music] wow off to a great start great start uh age 29 29 all right welcome everybody so we're going to go around the table once

Mason Gregoiremore wait I think both you and you forgot something here both of you forgot both of you forgot something what no no no Mason and you you can go first okay

Mason Gregoireyeah Brian wants me to take off my Clark can't disguise why why you got to put it on me man cuz you asked oh whoa whoa oh oh my don't get too

Maya (split label)excited don't get too excited everybody the gigachad has answered the chat and you wanted to call out Pearl

Maya (split label)right yeah I got something to say uh Pearl uh cash me outside how about that [ __ ] damn Pearl Pearl pearly things just pearly things her name is so funny

Mason Gregoirethat sentence Pearl Pearl sounds like you're talking to someone's Grandma goob you want you want to box her is that correct is there a challenge in here somewhere I challenge Pearl to a boxing

Brian Atlasmatch yeah okay cool anytime anywhere great okay so we're going to get everybody's current relationship

Brian Atlasstatus so are you uh single relationship married divorced polycule sex cult situationship talking stage Harum whatever it may be if you're single how

Alex (engaged)long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you um I am engaged to my fiance I get married to him next month um overboard humor and my longest

Kikorelationship was 6 years how long have you been with uh your current uh two years two years all right what about you I am still in a relationship um we've

Kikobeen together wow I'm surprised we've been together since January 2023 what can you say well how many relationships have you been that's one year and couple months three we'll say three months okay

Aurorayeah and my um longest relationship was like 2 and a half years all right what about you um I'm currently single um my longest relationship was like 2 years

Aurorabut it was like on and off in like high school so yeah I don't really date anymore I kind of just do like online dating I don't like doing like IRL [ __ ] like that's it what do you mean IRL [ __ ]

Auroraum like if I have like a boyfriend it'll be like online like I don't like having like in real life boyfriends like I don't [ __ ] with so You' had virtual boyfriends yeah like Discord

Brian Atlasboyfriends do you currently have a Discord boyfriend yeah you you currently have a Discord boyfriend mhm what is that um like a boyfriend on Discord do

Aurorayou have multiple Discord boyfriends um yeah sometimes what do you mean like the person who pays you the most money or what no honestly it's the person like no like I actually be like liking them

Aurorasometimes like I don't care like well like I don't know I feel like Discord guys like they're they have like like they're not known and I like that you know like they're just random

Aurorapeople like on the internet I don't like knowing like what they look like or like who they are I don't even know what they look like well I kind of do but like not like in real life are these like subscribers to your off sometimes

Mason Gregoireyeah okay I wouldn't call that a boyfriend I'd call that pathetic but I like pathetics okay um so not pathetic necess from a follower not from a not

Mason Gregoireyeah I'm I'm guessing probably from a follower not from a from a boyfriend no no they're I call I consider them how long have you been single oh um maybe like a year one year you said in your high school

Aurorarelationship it was on again off again mhm how many times was that one on again off again like probably 10 10 times yeah who was breaking up with who

Auroraboth of us but I was like chasing him like the whole time like but it was like equal like breaking up this was during High School mhm so and it was like two years half

Maya (split label)and half you'd break up with him he'd break up with you yeah okay and you've been single you said for one year yeah okay what about you um I'm not single

Maya (split label)I'm in a relationship and I've pretty much always had long-term committed relationships for like the past 10 12 12 years my last relationship was 6 years do they call it was that serial monogamy

Maya (split label)kind of is that what that's called I mean I'm only 26 and I've I've been in pretty much like three long-term okay relationships so so you said you're currently in a relationship how long

Mayahave you been in that one couple months couple months okay all right what about you um I'm single the longest relationship I've been in was maybe like 6 months and I've been single for like 6

Auroramonths too single for 6 months do you have any any Discord boyfriends I do not okay cuz you guys are friends right yeah she's not rubbing off on you with the Discord no she doesn't even know what I

Brian Atlasgot going on to be Hest I just tell her about it wait so how much um you currently have one Discord boyfriend um yeah how much are you have

Auroravoice calls with them mhm but you don't know what they look like no I know what he looks like oh you know what he looks like okay cuz you said you like that you don't know what they look like well like no well I do but like I know what he

Auroralooks like but I feel like it's really attractive when I like just know like their voice and not what they look like okay I'm like damn that [ __ ] turns me off just knowing their voice how much

Auroratime did you spend like texting or calling with the Discord boyfriend oh like we're probably on like a Discord call like right now like at home like on my PC like I think we're still in a call

Mason Gregoireright now so like basically like every day like all day what how are you on to call with him right now when you're on the podcast well like he's like he's in the Discord Channel

Aurorayeah it's just kind of like a call like all day I I'll be like Oh I'm home babe like I've never heard of that well like no I'm dead eyes like it's funny

Mason Gregoirebut like I'm serious oh yeah there's like a Discord talk Channel where you can just sit in there the whole time kind of yeah yeah you like private Channel mhm yeah okay right but I assume

Avery Jennerlike you go out and do things yeah yeah and then we come home we're like hey babe what the [ __ ] okay what about you

Avery JennerI'm single I've been single since November um so what six months yeah and uh my longest relationship is almost 3

Alex (massage) / Kittyyears long three years okay got it uh what about you I'm single um I guess since November but a little update uh I

Alex (massage) / Kittyguess I was just around that X recently for 3 weeks and uh yeah we're not [ __ ] with each other again so technically two weeks wait

Kikosingle they broke up in November they recently started talking for 3 weeks and then now they're not talking

Mason Gregoireokay uh longest relationship three and a half years 3.5 years all right uh I'm currently single um I mean going into the air force it's not super

Mason Gregoireconducive to having a relationship um longest relationship is about a year no it was a year exactly um yeah and what's your status like my current status like

Mason Gregoireyour uh oh my status your status okay yeah yeah I'm a virgin I'm waiting for marriage um there you go waiting to find the right woman you know I had I had a

Mason Gregoiregirl DM me yesterday Christian virgin she's like can you introduced me to Mason yeah yeah were you interested or not he's all nervous I no I mean like like I said I'm

Mason Gregoiregoing into the air force especially the special Warfare route there's like the pipeline is about 2 years long mm so unless someone is going to wait two years just pining for me yeah but you're going in as enlisted right so don't you

Mason Gregoireget like if you're married don't you get some extra benefits in the military yeah you do but like I'm not looking I'm not just looking for benefits that's fair and like a wife I'm

Mason Gregoirenot looking for the status of being married like I'm trying to find my partner and that partnership would be greatly hindered for like two years and I'm just not really looking for that right now okay uh Taylor what about you

Taylorlongest relationship 6 years I've been single for two um I'm not currently dating all right great well um are you guys going to box is that what's no what happened I thought you

Taylorsaid you wanted to you're the one who was running your mouth yeah I'll get I'll do it for free you could stand up if you want to damn right now no we should no clear this table why did you say that you should stop talking and running your mouth online I said for 10K I will fight you that's so true talk

Taylorlike that if you're not a person who gets down Just sh Let It Go four times on a podcast you run your mouth I'm cool with everybody but once you start saying stuff like that I'm with the shits and you're not so like I told you last time and then you're all quiet now you had

Taylorbig mouth last time that's the thing I'm getting bothered by you're acting so old what happened what happened was is that not like 2 years ago Dude you just was on a podcast why are you acting like that I haven't seen you I think the last

Kikotime I saw you I was single gas literally I don't care that much about that Stu then you should shut the [ __ ] up damn that's enough stop talking that's it you don't want to scrap so

Kikothat's stop talking please seriously for 10K I would gladly get you're not going to do anything for 10K you're going to get your ass whooped for 10K that's fine that's 10K I still have at the end of the day those wounds will heal I will have 10K what do you mean grid one motor

TTS Donation Readerdonated $200 not the dest 304 groupers yet but they seem to be striving for it Mason old Bean are you doing PJ school too bad

Mason Gregoireflannel Daddy has retired and you won't have him forer good luck yeah I know really that's that's sad um actually I'm not going to PJ I want to go Sr uh

Mason Gregoirespecial reconnaissance PJ School sounds awesome not going to lie any of the Air Force Special Warfare routes sounds cool but Sr kind of has my name on

Brian Atlasit thank you gri one right can you guys let's not I don't want violence like no fighting on the whatever podcast if you guys if you guys I appreciate if you guys want to like

Brian Atlasargue that's fine but let's avoid any actual violent confrontation I'm not a person if we can agree no no if you guys want respect you I'm not going to do

Brian Atlasnothing but I'm big chilling you're here think it's obvious thank you Taylor no let's avoid any any violence belligerence if you guys want to debate stuff we can do that I think I think we

Brian Atlasshould yeah that's why I'm here debate's okay debate's all right you know good talk uh is the audio muted Nick or no oh that's weird

Brian Atlasuh yeah well I said for the first 30 minutes I don't know why hold on guys I said for the first 30 minutes I I'll re-trigger this sorry guys one sec um Mason I know you have a question for

Mason Gregoirethe panel go ahead wait what do it while I'm fixing this go ahead oh okay oh shoot well sorry guys I got fix would you guys okay I guess we're just going to get straight into it it's the

Kikoonly thing I can think of right now would you guys classify yourself as a feminist no going around the table no maybe like in the if it was feminism in

Aurorathe 80s or it's like first wave yeah but not anymore okay no I'm not no no no no

Mason Gregoireno no no no no I I always find this kind of interesting um have you guys at any point like put on the the uh taken that

Mason Gregoiremovement on and say yes I'm a feminist like any point point in your life have that has that been like a big thing for you kind of yeah yeah I don't think so I

TTS Donation Readerguess yeah so we got your answers no I think think no no no no never you've never been like I'm a feminist no definitely small D kenery donated

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Brian Atlastoo short for you guys for you for you for if you're single I know some of you guys are in relationships just if you're assume you're uh single if you were

Aurorasingle how tall are you guys 57 I'm 5'3 you're 5'3 57 Too Short well I'd rather like not know the height unless you're tall what what

Kikowhat is that I kind of I get what you mean I kind of get what you mean it's like if you're if you're shorter like whatever but then once you like actually like put a number to it it's kind of like it makes it real yeah I guess is that what you're trying to say or are

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Brian AtlasLuke that's definitely thank you man appreciate it thank you dude uh wait so we were going around everyone everyone said no to being a feminist yeah everyone said no to being a feminist but I was asking have you always held that

Mason Gregoireposition I am not a feminist I don't associate with that Movement we were used to consider myself a feminist yeah exactly so we were here and I was grilling you a little bit um no I'm not a feminist never have claimed

Mason GregoireI'm a feminist I'm not against feminism either like I just don't really care okay you should be against it yes really oh okay then I am indeed good good we have changed Minds here today folks god making progress that's not good if she

TTS Donation Readercould change her mind that fast I don't really care like I feel like that's just an opinion allia matter donated $100 Brian you a weirdo for liking roast

TTS Donation Readerbeef chat do you prefer inis or outies strumpets of the panel do you have an in or an Outi uh just get straight into

Brian Atlasit big La a matter yeah I'm a fan what can I say why you looking at meik what the [ __ ] we were taught to look okay we're going around the table yeah that's true that's true that's true that's true I

Brian Atlascan't look if you guys want to answer he's asking if you guys have an any oral a belly button [Laughter] nope the the the laia oh I'm not

Brian Atlasanswering that like your pami beefs on the outside hell no oh that's n I'm I'm a I'm a I'm going to keep my anatomy to me and my boyfriend yeah I'm going to keep mine to myself

Kikoyou guys do subcribe find out subscribe and find out subscribe to find out I'm not answering that question any oh there

Brian Atlasyou go I'm not going to answer that question I played the fifth all right there you have it Mason that entertain again okay I think we're caught up on

Brian Atlasthat so wait hold on we want how okay wait engaged relationship single single I don't I don't know this Discord boyfriend

Brian Atlasthing be stuck on that so those of you who are single you said you're single there's no guys in the picture right now in person no no dudes you live in LA

Auroraright mhm you're an attractive girl why is that um I feel like I'm kind of antisocial like not really like but I don't I feel like I isolate myself a lot and I kind of just like like I feel like

Auroradating online and like playing video games and talking to like guys online is way more thrilling than like going to a club and like finding a boyfriend or like chasing a [ __ ] boyfriend from the club you know well I agree with you

Aurorathat clubs are not good environments but did you used to do that um well kind of I guess like partying mhm yeah when did you start your o like I'm just wondering

Mason Gregoirehalf a year ago half a year ago yeah I'm pretty new to it yeah aren't you 18 right mhm no she's 18 okay yeah no I I would yeah okay fair enough uh would you say that you probably kind of adopt this

Aurorapolicy like post starting an off no no I've always been like well not always I feel like after like my ex I feel like that's when it kind of started well like I've always been like kind of like a weirdo like Discord like gamer like I've

Auroraalways been like into that kind of [ __ ] but like after like my ex I'm just like yeah I don't like I don't [ __ ] with guys like I just I'm over it don't play fortnite yeah when did you break up with the like if you're not good at fortnite

Auroralike I honestly don't like you like that's kind of cringe is is your ex like a twitch streamer no he's just a regular social media no okay

Aurorayeah but yeah if you're not good at fortnite like you're nerfed bro you're not on any dating apps no do you go out you don't and you don't party at all well I party like sometimes

Auroralike how frequently I have to be like heavily like influenced to go with my friends out like I have like a lot of friends at party but I just don't are you are you a home body M

Brian Atlasokay you don't like the first impression I don't that's not what I get but I know a lot of people say that like nobody shity girl so innocent looking so pure I don't know about that no nobody expects

Aurorame like I'm l a [ __ ] like weirdo like Discord like mod type of girl nobody would never expect that like nobody like even like she doesn't like she's like bro I would never expect that from you and she's like my close friend okay do you tend to like go out party go to

Mayaclubs yeah absolutely yeah yes but you guys are F like close friends yeah we're close so you try to drag her out but she doesn't I tried to drag her out last weekend and she said she was going to come and then last second she was like

Brian Atlasyou know what I'm going to stay in I think that's pretty cool though no I literally played fortnite the whole night like it's bad sorry kill of cereal I'm not why this sure why this didn't

Brian Atlastrigger pick 61 uh 6ot tall six oh my God let me pull it back up sorry guys it disappeared 6' one one tall fit 180k a

Brian Atlasyear 8 in pen but has a horrible World Outlook in negative attitude or 5 foot Too Tall chubby 30k year 4in pen and has positive World Outlook and uses confidence and Swagger he really likes

Brian Atlasasking this question every show thank you kill seral appreciate it starting with you if you had to pick between the two between uh what was it again you

Brian Atlasmean the one I just read out and was on the screen okay basically like tall attractive rich guy big peen but like

Brian Atlasbad attitude bad personality or 5 foot two chubby 30k year 4in pen but positive World Outlook and oozes confidence in Swagger I'm not going to answer that

Alex (engaged)it's a hypothetical so like if you were you know your head I'm not single though so I'm not going to answer it but this is this isn't even a real person yeah yeah I know I just don't want to answer

Brian Atlasit I want to actually hold on let me open this up to the whole panel here does engaging with a hypothetical mean you're like cheating on your boyfriend I don't

Alex (engaged)know kind I think it depends on hypothetical but usually I just I feel like it's disrespectful to your boyfriend yeah I think it is do you have guy friends that you talk to no no okay at least you're consistent I think I

Alex (engaged)think that I should only talk to him like he's allowed to talk to girls like I let him do that sometimes but I don't think I should talk to guys MH

Brian Atlasthat makes sense to me not really I mean in terms of answering the hypothetical I don't understand that

Alex (engaged)well I just think it's disrespectful to answer that to to him well

Brian Atlasokay I don't well okay I don't why would you think it's disrespectful don't because I don't really have any answer I just think well would you be able to engage with this hypothetical so all

Brian Atlasright tell what was the other one assuming you weren't in a you were not in a relationship would you prefer dating a tall guy or a short guy a tall guy well how is that any different then

Mason Gregoirethe question I've just posed you so if you had to pick between a guy who made $180,000 and $30,000 What would you pick well any girl would say that okay so if you had to pick between a guy who uh

Aurorawhat were what were all the other ones it one by one and we'll make this easy well one's tall and fit and Rich and the other one's short and fat and between a fit guy or a chubby guy which would good

Mason Gregoireattitude OB so we're almost there we're almost there so good attitude or bad attitude good attitude okay so put those all together and pick one it's an

Mason Gregoireobvious answer though I feel like wait so so just pick one we've already gone through this exercise guy with with I feel like everyone's going to answer that anyway so figured I just we just

Kikowanted to nail down pick I don't know it's not that easy to me no like if it was for the short guy and it was everything but the like oozing confidence cuz it's like all

Mason Gregoireright man like I want my man some confidence but yeah let's understand where you're lacking in some situations I feel like that would be very annoying I guess like he's just like comfortable in his own skin he's confident with that like he's got a healthy personality

Mason Gregoirehealthy outlook on life yeah just give him the benefit of the doubt I guess yeah probably actually choose that one yeah okay yeah I can't do the whole negative [ __ ] M um I think I would

Aurorarather be single for the rest of my life but um I'd probably choose a douchebag like I mean it really depends on like how short and ugly he is cuz I lowy like mid ugly guys so like it depends like

Aurorahow like fat short and ugly he is you know but I do think like energy is like way more like it matters more than like the looks but you you'll go with number

Maya (split label)one yeah okay I'd also probably rather stay single but if the short dude's like a professional fighter or something I'd go for

Maya (split label)him well he's not fit yeah he's no not fit not fit he chy by he can still throw hands even if he's not fit she did throw hands that's

Kikojust like I'm picking a 53 chubby I almost said bodybuild what are those it called like Olympian lifter Olympic

Mason Gregoireweightlifters yeah probably a power lifter yeah that's what that's what I'm going to put in my mind okay yeah wait are you currently dating a guy who's a fighter no okay but he's

Mayatall okay okay what about you I'm picking the tall guy um I actually kind of like [ __ ] so you like [ __ ] okay it didn't say that they were an [ __ ] though like

Kikothat's it's said a terrible outlook on life and lack bad attitude atud that's I don't think those that necessarily coincide like he could just be depressed like that's why you just like his

Mason Gregoirepersonality at all like whether he was like an [ __ ] or not you just didn't [ __ ] with his personality he just like kind of drags you down like oh my gosh why are we doing this again a terrible outlook on life that doesn't really mean

Avery Jennera douchebag like if anything douchebags are like overid okay I feel like I would pick neither but if I absolutely had like gun to my head had to choose one the short with a better

Alex (massage) / Kittyattitude so I would pick the short one you know Dad bod and uh as far as the income goes you know that could possibly change I'd rather go with a positive person you could build something

Brian Atlastogether agreed yeah yeah I'm going with a second all right thank you kill of Serial much appreciated I where were we before that chat came in no clue Discord

Brian Atlasboyfriends and feminism boyfriends feminism there's something else well you said that you like [ __ ] what so can you explain that a little further what does

Mayathat mean it's like attractive like when guys are like douchebags and like I don't know it kind of like makes me like want them more well biologically girls are supposed to like [ __ ] that's

Auroralike our biological makeup wait why because it's like like like [ __ ] are like [ __ ] well why they they

Alex (engaged)actually like need an [ __ ] like from not having a good father I well I have a good I think it comes from having an immature like an immature female will

Mason Gregoirehave that Outlook no I don't think so cuz I had I had a good f a mature a mature female will be able to tell the difference between a guy who's just a jerk and someone who's actually confident actually carries thems like a

Mason Gregoireman like immature women will see the guy who's a jerk treats people terribly but is strong and like has that false confidence and they'll be like that's what I'm looking for because say like I

Mason Gregoirewant strong male but a real female a strong female who's mature will understand the difference between the two so are you saying what are you

Mason Gregoiresaying about her then Mason I mean I would say you're probably an immature female she's 18 exactly so I mean I exactly 19 that makes sense 19

Mayayeah do you want to respond to his accusations that you're immature I mean yeah I disagree like I think everyone likes what they like and if I like someone that's like that and like that turns me on then that might just be my

Brian Atlaspreference like you know I'm not getting on you for like your it turns you on so what would be like let's actually let's try to um articulate kind of what this

Mayaactually looks like so you say certain behaviors turn you on what's specifically I don't like if I have a nice guy right in front of me that wants like oh my God like I kind of like like chasing someone and when someone acts

Kikolike they don't want me and they're kind of like like they give off off that energy it kind of like ooh like bad boy like a Chase yeah like I like that I agree though like I don't want them to be like [ __ ] though they don't have to be an [ __ ] to make you go on a

Kikochase that's why I think maybe we're getting confused of what you describe an [ __ ] to be isn't what we're envisioning an [ __ ] to be because you can like someone who like yeah like puts in you have to put effort towards and all that I also I take the position that

AuroraI don't chase after women like I I I let them chase after me I feel like I like the thought of like changing guys like if you're like a like a player you're like an [ __ ] like I feel like I'm

Auroraobsessed with the fact that like you will change for me and like I will make ever heard in my life they were no the thing is like I have changed guys for me and on Discord where and then I end up like not even really liking them

Brian Atlasafter they changed for me so wait wait hold on hold on hold on hold on stop stop stop stop stop stop repeat that one more time I said I end up not even liking them after they changed there it is that's the reason why that's bad what

Avery Jennerwell no I I understand that it's bad you need someone who's already there understand do you know why you were turned off after you I think that might be my phone I'm sorry why you should just let us one

Mason Gregoiredidn't say a lot either this comment we got to hold on super chat or not Super Chat don't know

Brian Atlasyeah yeah we oh that we're past the 30 guys we're we're we already passed the 30 minutes so we're 200 and up for TTS 100 and up to read we'll get to it later

Mason Gregoiredo you understand like why you lost attration for them yes I do yeah it's because you don't want a man who will bow to the pressures of the world so if if you you you lost attraction for him

Mason Gregoirelike the game like I know what I'm doing when a man put I know from the beginning that I don't want a relationship with them I just what makes a strong man is he has boundaries he has conviction he is strong he will not Bend to the

Mason Gregoirepressures of the world that makes a man attractive so if you if yourself can break those boundaries if you can push that man to compr that is extremely unattractive and

Mason Gregoirethat's why that's why immature women will find themselves in this scenario where they're like I I want to change a man I can change him like all of that's good and then when he does when he breaks his own boundaries when he

Mason Gregoirecompromises when he proves to you that he's not a strong man you lose attraction it makes sense well like I said sometimes though because are you no the guy I'm talking

Aurorato right now he was like a little [ __ ] Tre online and I changed him he was like a and now he's like what is a like a like a like a like a man like a

AuroraManore I've never heard this well I mean it's not a man [ __ ] like it can be like just a [ __ ] in general but it's usually described for women I just call it that like I don't know why I guess I do you have any intention to actually meet this guy in real life and date him yes I

Auroraactually really like him and like I feel like he used to talk to like hella girls online too and like I was like no like let let me change him cuz like I feel like I can't like as a game at first and like now that he actually changed like

Mason GregoireI'm like we actually like him like but I'm saying a lot of the time it's a drug girls all of a sudden you think okay this guy is going to put up with my feelings like he cares about me he's listening to me he's changing for me but

Mason Gregoireeventually you're going to get to that point where the drug no longer has any effect and then you're going to be like I don't want you in my life anymore we're done wait why because the same thing is going to happen like why do you think that because that's what's

Aurorahappened in your life from your own account life because like I do like him you told us sometimes sometimes girls don't like end up actually liking them after they played that game with them you know I'm

Aurorajust telling you this is how happened to me before but it's also times where like I actually do like them after I've changed them you know M how long have you been talking to this guy like 3

Maya (split label)months there you go I have a counterargument to that and I I do agree but I would like your perspective on so what about a woman that is with her man

Maya (split label)from the bottom up and watches him change into a better man financially X Y and Z and maybe she has some sort of influence on that yeah oh I'm not saying

Mason Gregoirelike a woman can't help a man become a better man I'm not saying that I'm saying she's probably attracted to him because he has those qualities being strong having boundaries having aspirations that's probably what

Mason Gregoireattracted to him her to him at the beginning so she's not trying to change those those things like she's not pushing boundaries she's not like crushing his aspirations making him change in those ways it's usually like

Mason Gregoirehey how can I best support you in your mission how can I help push you to be a better man and like as a man that is the most attractive thing in the

Mason Gregoireworld so you would say maybe their perspective is like you were saying maybe just a little bit immature so maybe maybe I guess I'm thinking about this now so maybe they see an immature

Mason Gregoirewoman and we'll see if I can push his boundaries and make him change and like adopt these certain things like that maybe I can push him to be a better man but that's just an immature like view on

Kikothe subject maybe I could see it that way maybe right idea but wrong attributes MH exactly yeah a difference between like changing someone and coming to a compromise so like say in beginning you start dating he's the type to like

Kikonever text you and you hate when he doesn't text you when he's out with his friend so he starts you know updating you you're that's not changing him you guys are coming to a compromise he's so it's like it's you're actively getting with someone because you're like I know I can morph them into the human being I

Brian Atlaswant to morph them into instead of them already being that human being then I actually have two quotes related to this whole changing thing yeah go for it so men marry women with the hope they will never change Women Marry men with the

Brian Atlashope they will change invariably they are both

Brian Atlasdisappointed I believe that that's sad though there's a little truth behind behind that one we're not everyone obviously but got a also another one when a woman leaves her husband it's because he refuses to change who he is

Brian Atlaswhen a man leaves his wife it's because she's not the woman that he married that makes sense that's the sad truth some thoughts there for the converation also I I 100% agree with you

Brian AtlasMason when it comes to not wanting a woman who's a challenge I know you mentioned that because uh if you play hard to get you quickly become hard to want

Brian Atlaswhat what looking at you keik what wait what's confusing about that if you become hard to get if you play if you play hard to get you quickly become hard

Brian Atlasto want I mean so I guess from the guy's perspective maybe y'all like the Chase and [ __ ] but from my perspective I don't want a challenge I don't want I don't want I'm also saying from your perspective so what's what's the challenge to you are you saying because

Kikoshe waits to sleep with you are you saying she waits to be in relationship with you she SLE with right away then that would be want like a relationship with her it's hard to [ __ ] her like what do you mean like I don't get the with

Mason Gregoirewomen you guys are not familiar with the term playing hard to get like not being super responsive with T I have to put out so much effort to get your attention don't want to hang out you see his

Kikomessage but you're lagging you see he wants you but you're playing around I feel like maybe I'm think it's hard for us to grasp because I don't think women typically do that it's like if they're interested or they're not yeah so I know but I'm saying like if she's

Mason Gregoireplaying hard to get she's probably not playing hard to get she probably just doesn't want you well so well I don't know I I just I gave you a succinct like summary of what I was trying to explain

Mason Gregoireand you two agreed with me like I've done that and it works then what so so like playing hard to get so like not giving them attention um like making

Mason Gregoirethem fight for your attention extremely hard and you were like yeah I do that all the time and it works for me it does it does for women but I feel like unfortunately it get you a certain caliber of guy I feel like I don't know

Aurorawhy but like it's like there's a big difference for like guys and girls that do that like some I feel like guys are really delusional sometimes and I'm wait how are guys because as a woman I would

Auroranever like DM a guy like like begging to like get my attention and I have so many guys in my DMs and like I bet all of your guys' DMs too like wait so just by virtue of sending a girl a DM that's

Aurorabegging I think it's the numerous no no no I have guys like like for months on ends like every single day like daming me asking like trying to get my attention and I'm like okay that's weird are you okay like and there's like it's not just one guy it's like multiple guys and it's like I would never do that

Aurorawould you would you would you guys you don't well one you don't have to but I would certainly agree that men you can send one dm mhm yeah I mean that no that's fine like maybe I'll DM like my celebrity crush like trying to get his

Auroraattention but like there's guys that are like constantly like every day like yeah that's weird they those guys are called simps but I feel have like it's worse than that I think it's even there's even sometimes like attractive guys who are

Kikolike aren't what you would think is simps or whatever and it's like maybe you like hang out with them once but then they'll like keep texting you keep texting it's like it's not just the weirdos who it's a mentality this that's actually a really great point cuz you

Brian Atlasasked all the girls like you turned you you asked the girls at your side you're saying well we would never even think of dming double dming a guy you you might

Brian Atlaseven think just sending one dm to a guy is too much as a woman and that actually speaks to the fact that frankly you guys have dating on easy mode compared to men it do it doesn't even occur to you to

Brian Atlashave to take like a bare minimum level of initiative you just you just get handed a bunch of resumés so to speak on the silver platter I initiated my

Brian Atlasrelationship that I'm in I did too yeah is he a strong man definitely I will say when women do initiate they like but they're sniping in on like one guy that

Brian Atlasthey they really like whereas like dudes it's like a shotgun approach where they're just some guys every I played the long game I the scenery out yeah

Kikowomen are snipers and dudes just mowing he he put the first move by asking for my number first and then we didn't have any contact for months and then I initiated after that that's extremely smart as a guy like maybe I'll ask for

Mason Gregoirethe number maybe I'll give them the number but I'm not like hounding like hey can you please give me some attention please I of you sir that's exactly how he's like I'm not going to that he's probably a strong man who

Brian Atlasknows what he wants and he knows what he deserves M yeah makes sense good [ __ ] good [ __ ] so you like [ __ ] anybody who else here likes [ __ ] I do you do

Brian Atlasis your fiance I like's an [ __ ] you would say he's an [ __ ] okay Kiara I don't know I'm saying that's I'm just I don't like Kiko anymore I'm calling you

AuroraKiara deal with it I like making [ __ ] not [ __ ] and then you break up with them break I don't break up with them like but I'm saying like you you lose attraction for them no no no no my

TTS Donation Readere boyfriend used to be an [ __ ] yeah grid One Motorsports donated $200 men that change for a woman will resent it and will leave them a man must

TTS Donation Readerbe true to himself discard all women not willing to accept him as he is as a true man is always going to better himself well put well put grid One Motorsports

Brian Atlasthe [ __ ] Legend grid One Motorsports coming in with some facts thank you man I appreciate it um well I I'm kind of going back to you my one of my initial

Brian Atlasquestions was what are some of the ways that like actually if you can articulate it like that a guy can act in that way that makes you really attracted to him what are some assholish

Mayabehaviors I don't really know just like not I don't know like just not want wanting me like not being rude to other people but kind of like just I don't know having like a big ego and like big

Mayaego okay so you don't like [ __ ] you like men with confidence yeah yeah that's what it is sounds kind of like a little Cy about it though I like the aspect that um Aurora was talking about too like changing them like I like that

Auroracon like the chase conce you want to chase them like think of an [ __ ] I think of someone who's an [ __ ] to like people the they don't want like why do you not want me like I want to make

Brian Atlasyou want me mhm yeah dysfunctional yeah yeah that's dysfunctional that's going to end in terribly I think what part of that is too it's kind of like well have

Brian Atlasyou guys ever s succeeded yeah yeah but so I I almost wonder what so you're saying they had no physical attraction to you and then you

Aurorabut they were I feel like they were like as a man like it's kind of weird for a man to be playing hard to get so it's kind of like damn like why is he playing hard to get for me so I kind of want to make like I want to change him what does

Aurorait look like when a man's played hard to get um like they're not in my DMs like constantly dming me every single day like that's how like most men are for me not hard to get that's normal yeah noral

Kikoa normal maleon we have a lot of I think we're like miscommunicating on a lot of part of it Kiara makes a very good point no she does because if a guy like really acted like he didn't want me like well

Brian Atlasthat's that's not even what I'm getting to I think what she's saying is that there's this sort of like comparative uh there there's this comparison going on here because you're on social media you have a following on

Brian Atlassocial media you have only fans so the attention that you are getting from a decent subset of men is like this exaggerated like simpish thing and then like by comparison the actual normal

Brian Atlastreatment as Kiara is saying from normal men of like not engaging you on that you're like why aren't you simping for me yeah is that kind of what you're saying hard to get would be like if they're not responding to you if you're like trying to set up something and

Kikothey're not like going through like that's hard to get but yeah you're just describing like men with any self-confidence how they go about dating I feel like no I think that like that's what I'm going for is like your opinion right now just a normal guy not a maybe

Auroranot a disc even before I only fans though like guys were in my DMs like that too yeah it's not just the only fans thing for sure no yeah oh yeah there's I mean what I'm like like social media is like the people who reach out

Auroraon social media are overwhelmingly simpy so like the people you're getting are like the lowest Echelon of men no yeah and I love those guys like I love those guys in my DM I mean you got to say that because like that's how you make your

Mason Gregoiremoney well no I do I do okay like I love reading them like I love like the attention but at the same time yeah I I know you love the attention you just don't love those type of

Alex (engaged)guys yeah you might be right guys are supposed to do the initiating anyway I like I agree it's better if the woman initiates to be honest well it's better but it's like that's not then you know she really likes you no that's I feel

Auroralike that's not I mean it is but it's like at the same time if I really want a guy I'm sometimes I still want I'm a woman like I'm not going to do that I'm a man I'm not going to I

Mason Gregoirereally [ __ ] want him I'm like no I can use the same argument yeah like yeah May sometimes I will initiate but like if a woman initiates with me that's

Brian Atlaspretty big turn on yeah as a good man that's like yeah you yeah you'll still initiate when you if she's coming at you it's like a much better Dynamic 100%

Alex (engaged)yeah I agree why are you picking on me no you did like a little kind of mas it's kind of what masculine a girl is initiating with the guy for her to well you can I

Brian Atlasthink you can do so in a in a feminine way it's not like you walk up to the dude yo you want some [ __ ] that's what I did my that's what you did not I honestly I'm really happy

Kikohow we we it met we met organically how you how did you meet we met um when I was working at my bar romantic oh yeah we exchanged numbers but we didn't talk like that was tanked what was he tanked drunk was he drunk oh no no it was like

Kikoearly in the night um he was perfectly fine and then we didn't talk for like months like that was September of 2022 and I would just see him out with his friends while I was working stuff like that kind of saw how he acted while he

Kikowas out at the club and how he portrayed himself um and then we would talk every once in a while like you know just a little bit and then on

Kikoum new Year's Day um I was working and I saw him there and um I went up to him and kissed him on uh midnight and then we didn't talk for like a week and then

Brian Atlaswe started dating after that oh my God who the hell is you asked me I you literally asked me okay wait really quick let's do a

Brian Atlasquick check in here Tay Kiara what's going on you guys I'm chilling I'm giddy I'm with B to be

Brian Atlashere I haven't said anything oh okay no I'm cool now oh yeah yeah yeah I got what I had to say out it's is it yeah as long as she her mouth I feel like there's this underlying tension

Taylorjust say it Taylor I think she you got this I already said what I have to say I feel like she doesn't she talks all that [ __ ] online and when I see her she acts fake there's nothing else to say you're scared so that to me is enough I actually fight I do Muay Tha I don't

Taylorwant to fight a [ __ ] I want to fight somebody who's down with yeah that's why I told her stop running your mouth du that's the whole point if you keep threatening somebody online talking [ __ ] about dude look at the videos you

Taylormade you talk so much made a video I've never we can literally on this podcast four times I'm playing video games my followers say hey have you seen the video Kiko made of you that's why I'm saying this whole podcast why are you

Kikoacting shocked what did you say I want to fight Taylor I want to fight Taylor I said for 10K I will get boxing ring he asked me how much it would cost for me to he texted me one day and said would you ever box Taylor I said for 10K that's literally how it happened it was

Taylornever my idea I'm not a fighter but 10K why why do you even do it then why do you even put yourself in those situations if you know you're not a fighter that doesn't make any sense I would literally just say $1,000 what are we talking about here I

Kikoyou're a whole [ __ ] dude well hold on hold on wait what is like you're mad cuz we said you were masculine but then this is how you're who's we it's only you Ryan's the one who actually said it first that you were a masculine woman I did not say yes you did ran I did not

Taylorsay not trying to catch hands he said it all quick yes you did wait I don't think I hold on yes you did I don't care what I'm perceive is masculine that's the don't think I said that I don't care whe

Brian AtlasI look not I I don't think I could be wrong you I swear to God I don't think I said that you did you did I I watched it

Tayloryou did Brian I'm not mad at you but you did thank you he's getting out no not thank you well thank you for at least you know I'm not lying that's not the issue though it's the issue that you keep running your mouth I don't care whether somebody calls me names this and

Kikothat but once you start going to a place where you want to fight somebody why that's what what I don't understand the only reason why I've responded on the podcast is cuz people send me your videos that you've made after I watch the podcast 20 minute YouTube videos

Taylorabout me third that right and I'll say it again to your face that's right no titties Glend looking ass you look like the men and black little skinny things yes oh [ __ ] okay let's not we shouldn't

Taylorwe shouldn't insult each other that's fine that's bites for tit stop you look like a dude relax what but then but I'm I'm the one talking all

Taylor[ __ ] to your face I want you to say the same thing you did online were shut the [ __ ] up and you small boobs are good too you thought mad I would have jumped up and got at you if

TaylorI'm you can see when I'm mad I will get out of my chair and put hands on you I'm Sor I forgot that this is just a debate relax so I don't act that way so I forget that's how people respond cuz I can use words so maybe you should stop maybe you should leave people alone I

Taylortold you four or five times stop her you can go you can go back on all the podcast and she never stopped running her mouth when you tell somebody you want to fight them what for and when you see them when you see them this is you

Taylorall acting like it was non-existent I just want the same energy you gave online that's the only thing saying you in like what's up [ __ ] let's [ __ ] go that's not how I shut up you didn't welome me in you swear to God you came

Taylorand shook my hand Le don't welcome me in you were late you were an hour and a half I wasn't going to come here I wasn't going to come here regardless me yeah that's the whole point of me coming here cuz I wanted to tell you your face to stop talking about me let it go after this podcast is done

Kikoplease Let It Go seriously girl I haven't spoken about you in forever I'm telling you that's the thing tell you the last time I thought about you exactly you're not listening you never

Taylorlisten I don't listen after this G please no I won't thank you no there no see exactly and this is why women like you get tossed up every [ __ ] time cuz you guys TOs never touched you guys will

Kikocontinue and continue when somebody tells you to stop let it go I will just press charges if you touch me it that's like I don't care like what are we doing here podates arcast seriously like that's like let's

Kikolearn to regulate our emotions a little bit Rel like I know some SSR like relax let's relax say you're right if you're going to say it I don't speak Spanish obviously I could see it I'm not

KikoHispanic Latina any of the sort so Latina shut up why are you so up where did you get that popcorn from like holy crap man want yeah I do want some give me the whole

Kikothing can I get like Xanax or something now like Jesus chist yeah give her some give her a drink another one she might need it

Taylordamn you okay now no you're scared are you are you okay now I'm fine I just I don't like people who don't match energy like if I talk about somebody I'm not going to come and act like nothing happened that's my biggest thing sorry I was waiting to get past the

Kikointroductions straight up we could like get past the introductions like oh my God sorry I was I'm I'm about what I say I'm not I'm not one of those people who fake and over a dating podcast you're

Taylorwishy-washy dude you like Wishy I've never liked you since day one you run your mouth and then when I come here you don't say half the stuff you say what are we talking about here you're the one who's made numerous videos about this so hard to talk to because it's like I'm

Taylortalking to somebody with two brain cells fighting each other just be quiet Let It Go you're the only one who you're not going to fight you're not going to do anything so you're going to repeat the same things I say cuz you have your no comebacks

Kikoexactly oh Lord laughing CU you're scared if I can just perhaps a point I'll press charges I will press charges if you touch me on a dating podcast I will 100% be press why did you talk

Taylorabout fighting last time for $10,000 in a boxing ring is very different than jumping across the table those are two very two different learn what jumping across the table is

Brian Atlasyo wait hold on hold on hold on Kiko shut the [ __ ] up I'm about to defend you okay so if I can provide a bit of

Brian Atlasclarification so I think Kiko I you guys had some beef I don't know the full details of it I proposed hey let's do like we'll host an actual boxing event

Taylorand I think that's the context in which Kiko wanted to fight you she didn't want to scrap with you in the street like I've never said that no no I never said in the street I know it's a boxing match but I want you to do it now I don't want you to sit here and say you're going to do something you $10,000 there're the

Brian Atlasones who putting I'm not putting up nothing for so for free I don't need no money not going to do the the boxing match on The Dating podcast we're going to do the boxing it's going to be like there's a boxing ring it's going to be an actual event

Kikothat's what I'm saying yes I will be there $10,000 we she can beat my ass I will run around the rink while she chases me for $10,000 I do not care some audience members um outside or in this studio no we're not fighting like I what

Tayloris like who even said I was fighting you here I'm not it's his podcast I'm not going to go and beat your ass on this podcast come on dud fighting in my I'm saying in general bro you're not listening you said we could do it right now you literally said let's do it right

Taylornow then right here in this podcast if we can leave after this dude in the streets yeah I'm not fighting you in the streetly cuz you won't you're scared scared I'm not I don't fight I don't need to hurt someone with my words that's not woman don't run your mouth

Kikookay stop running your mouth I never ran that's masculine to fight I think I'm not a fighter only physical altercation ever been cuz my best friend was getting jumped by six girls so I tried to help

Taylorher do that I not a I don't give a [ __ ] next says all that for nothing bro like that's what happens when you disrespect somebody like me I'm very respectful to people are nice to me you're not respectful you never have

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