3 RUDE GIRLS KICKED OUT?! Ragequit Keeko Cat Fight?! ØF Girl VlRGlN?! (CAP???) | Dating Talk #149

Date: 2024-04-03
Duration: 5h 59m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donation Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_01Mason Gregoire(guest)
SPEAKER_02Maya(guest)
SPEAKER_03Aurora(guest)
SPEAKER_04Alex (engaged)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Avery Jenner(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Alex (massage) / Kitty(guest)
SPEAKER_10Maya (split label)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Taylor(guest)
SPEAKER_12Kiko(guest)

Key Moments

00:02:44
IntroGuest introductions round. Panel includes Aurora and Avery Jenner (returning from DT#156), Taylor (returning with prior beef against Kiko), Mason (returning co-host), Kiko (recurring co-host), and new guests Alex (engaged), Maya (cannabis), Alex (massage/fashion), and Kitty (hair/photographer).

"all right we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"

00:07:47
QuoteAurora reveals she has an ongoing all-day Discord call with her "boyfriend" — she is actively in the call during the podcast right now.

"I think we're still in a call right now"

00:13:06
QuoteMason Gregoire reveals he is a virgin, saving himself for marriage. Goes into Air Force Special Reconnaissance; pipeline is 2 years. Not looking for a relationship right now due to deployment timeline.

"I'm a virgin I'm waiting for marriage"

00:50:10
ControversyTaylor vs. Kiko confrontation. Taylor confronts Kiko for making YouTube videos about her. Multiple heated exchanges. Taylor: "I watch four podcasts with you talking about me so let's do this." Near-physical altercation avoided. Kiko offers boxing match for $10K. Brian mediates. Eventually resolved with handshake.

"I watch four podcasts with you talking about me so let's do this"

00:50:12
ControversyKiko immediately fires back at Taylor upon arrival: "keep the energy you had before remember keep that energy." Tension escalates rapidly from opening moments of Taylor's entry.

"keep the energy you had before remember keep that energy"

00:51:33
QuoteKiko reveals she has been approached multiple times by people trying to get her to sabotage the Whatever Podcast, but declined every time.

"you know how many people have reached out to me trying to get me to sabotage you"

03:08:00
QuoteKiko apologizes to Taylor, admitting she did the online videos "for show / for laughs." Taylor accepts the apology. They shake hands and reconcile.

"I was doing most of the stuff for laughs that's why I am sitting up here laughing"

03:08:48
OtherTaylor accepts Kiko's apology and departs the show early. "I'm glad you said that you did it for show I respect that a lot."

"I'm glad you said that you did it for show I respect that a lot thank you"

05:05:00
OtherBody count round. Maya: lost count; deleted list; estimates 30+; probably under 50. Aurora: 5 (claims to be a virgin in real life despite 100+ e-body count). Avery: 8. Alex (engaged): 5. Kiko: under 10. Mason: 0 (virgin). Kitty: not disclosed. Alex (massage): very unclear / lost count.

"what's everybody's body count starting with Madison"

05:05:30
QuoteMaya admits she lost count of her body count, deleted her list, estimates it's around 30 (and says 30 seems reasonable as a guess), though she does not confirm the exact number.

"I don't know the number though so I don't cuz people are going to be like oh yeah it's 75 100"

05:23:00
QuoteKitty reveals her ex damaged her car, they reconciled for 3 weeks, then he immediately cheated again and asked her to sign an NDA to get the car money. She refused.

"he literally told me to delete all our photos say that we never dated and to sign an NDA"

05:27:05
QuoteKitty reveals she was a professional dominatrix at Pandora's Box NYC. Had a pet/slave she walked on a leash with "Property of Kitty" collar at her New Jersey bartending job. Minimum consultation alone was $700; full sessions in the thousands.

"I would literally chain him up and walk him around"

05:42:09
ControversyBrian kicks two (later says three) guests out of the show for repeatedly making disruptive faces at each other while Avery was speaking. "look if you guys want to leave then just get out go ahead." The guests leave immediately. Brian explains they had been doing this for hours.

"look if you guys want to leave then just get out go ahead you guys can leave go"

05:48:20
QuoteBrian defends not paying guests: mutual promotional benefit (similar to being invited on Joe Rogan). Notes the kicked-out guests had reached out to the show themselves and then complained about show length. Calls out their sense of entitlement.

"if Joe Rogan invited me on his podcast would that not be an opportunity"

05:53:20
OtherAvery thanks Brian for giving her the floor; explains she had many DMs after the last episode wondering why she did not talk much. Notes she got new clients (tooth gems, nails, hair) from the show exposure even when she barely spoke.

"I actually really do appreciate it I had a lot of people DM me after the last show"

Topics Discussed

00:02:44
Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Notable: Aurora and Avery Jenner returning from DT#156. Taylor arrives late (about 1.5 hours late per Kiko); tension between Taylor and Kiko is immediate. Mason challenges guests on feminist labels. Aurora reveals she has a Discord boyfriend she is in a call with all day. Mason reveals he is a virgin going into Air Force Special Warfare.

00:06:39
Relationship status round

Brian goes around table for relationship status. Alex: engaged (marrying next month). Kiko: in relationship since January 2023. Aurora: single; has Discord boyfriend; on a call with him during the podcast. Maya: in relationship a couple months. Avery: single since November (~6 months). Alex (massage): single since November; had on-again/off-again ex situation for 3 weeks. Mason: single; virgin, waiting for marriage; going into Air Force. Taylor: single for 2 years; longest relationship 6 years.

00:07:47
Aurora Discord boyfriend discussion

Aurora reveals she has an ongoing Discord call with her "boyfriend" all day. She is actively in the call during the podcast. Prefers online relationships over in-person; finds discord guys attractive for anonymity. Has had multiple Discord boyfriends; sometimes likes them genuinely. Said she is antisocial, isolates at home, plays Fortnite. Brian probes: not on any dating apps; rarely goes out. Mason: would not call online-only arrangement a "boyfriend."

00:17:15
Feminist label round

Mason asks who has ever identified as a feminist. Most say no or qualified yes in the past. Kiko: first wave feminism yes, modern feminism no. Aurora: no. Maya: not really. Avery: no. Alex (engaged): no. Taylor: complicated; had some identification with it. Mason argues modern feminism is net negative; Brian agrees.

00:26:45
Height / short vs. tall guy hypothetical

Viewer TTS asks guests to choose: 6'1" fit rich attractive guy with terrible outlook/attitude, or 5'2" chubby $30K/year 4-inch penis but positive outlook and confidence. Most lean toward the short guy with good attitude or claim they would stay single. Aurora: would pick the "douchebag" depending on how ugly the short one is. Alex (massage): short one with better attitude. Avery: short one with better attitude (gun to head). Alex (engaged): refused to answer (disrespectful to fiance). Discussion of whether engaging with hypotheticals while in a relationship is disrespectful.

00:50:10
Taylor vs Kiko confrontation

Taylor (SPEAKER_11) and Kiko (SPEAKER_12) have extended conflict. Taylor: Kiko made YouTube videos about her; wants to face her directly. Kiko: offered boxing match to Taylor for $10K (Mason relayed the offer). Multiple heated exchanges including personal insults and near-physical altercation. Brian mediates, clarifies the boxing match offer was meant as an organized event, not a street fight. Taylor accuses Kiko of fake niceness in person vs. online aggression. Kiko says DHS/manosphere investigation comments were about regulation, not the show specifically. Resolution: Kiko apologizes (did it "for show/laughs"); Taylor accepts; they shake hands.

01:24:00
Christian / OnlyFans contradiction discussion

Brian pulls up Avery's Instagram and OnlyFans (link in bio). Both Aurora and Avery wear cross necklaces in their photos. Brian asks if they think God approves of their content. Both acknowledge God does not approve but say he "understands." Mason invokes Rich Young Ruler parable. Discussion of how to reconcile Christian faith with sex work.

01:36:20
Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Brian reads viewer request to rate looks 1-10 ("Stiffler" question). Avery: 8. Alex (massage) / Kitty merged: 10 then 5 then 6-7 (unreliable due to speaker merge). Maya: 10 (says she would not change anything; would not change lips even when pushed). Alex (engaged): 10. Aurora: 7 (insecurities include forehead, wants breast augmentation). Mason: 8 (not insecurity; objective evaluation). Extended debate on whether self-rating reflects insecurity or honest objective assessment. Discussion of whether most women look better at 28 vs 18.

01:42:00
Will you be more attractive in 10 years?

Brian asks if guests will be more physically attractive in 10 years all else being equal. Aurora: no (will be less attractive; will get BOTOX at 28 for wrinkles). Maya: yes, probably. Mason: explains peak attractiveness argument — women in their early 20s have peak mate-value. Brian: prefers his current self. Avery: better in 10 years. Alex (massage): better in 10 years. Kiko: discussion of Millennial vs. Gen Z aging trends. Extended debate on objective aging vs. styling/presentation.

01:57:00
Plastic surgery / natural body supremacist debate

Brian declares himself a "natural body supremacist." Would prefer flat chest over implants, no-BBL over BBL, small natural lips over filler. Jeff Bezos plastic surgery girlfriend cited as counterexample. Mason: most men prefer natural look; women get plastic surgery partly for female competition. Maya: nothing wrong with surgery if it makes you happy. Aurora: does not have lip filler (contested by Brian). Kiko: would get tummy tuck after children. Debate on whether cosmetic surgery for post-birth body issues is acceptable. Mason and Brian form "natural body supremacist" alliance.

03:06:40
Trans / gender hypothetical

Brian poses hypothetical: trans woman (no bottom surgery) vs. trans man (no bottom surgery) — which would you choose? Brian: would choose trans man (technically still "straight"). Kiko and Mason debate what constitutes heterosexual attraction in the scenario. Leads into Kiko and Taylor trans discussion / Kiko's pronoun stance.

03:08:00
Taylor departure and reconciliation

Brian announces Taylor needs to leave (~3:08:58 into show). Before leaving, attempts Kiko-Taylor reconciliation. Kiko admits she did things "for show / for laughs." Taylor accepts, says she respects the honesty; no beef if there is a genuine apology. They shake hands. Taylor exits. Maddie (production staff) joins the panel.

03:15:00
Only-fans girls and first date payment debate

Brian argues women who do OnlyFans are not deserving of traditional chivalrous treatment (man pays first date). Alex (engaged) and Aurora strongly disagree: work is unrelated to dating treatment. Mason: only traditional women deserve traditional treatment. Extended debate on whether sex work disqualifies someone from receiving gentlemanly behavior. Brian's position: if body count over 30, man should not be expected to pay first date.

05:05:00
Body count round

Brian asks body counts going around the table. Brian to Mason: already said it; 0 (virgin). Avery: 8. Alex (massage): 5 or ambiguous (she says she lost count; then says "around 30" is reasonable guess; then says it may be below 50; very unclear). Alex (engaged): 5. Maya: lost count; deleted her list; 30+ estimate; probably under 50; over 20; "a lot." Kiko: under 10 (confirmed by Mason on show). Aurora: 5 (real life virgin claim earlier; e-body count 100+). Kitty: declined ("not that high for my age"). Brian: did not disclose. Notable: Aurora had claimed to be a virgin in real life earlier in the show; this was contested by other guests.

05:23:00
Kitty car smash and ex drama

Kitty shares ex-boyfriend smashed her car (video shown on screen). They reunited and hooked up for 3 weeks hoping he would pay for the car. He then went to sleep with someone else. He asked Kitty to delete all photos and sign an NDA to get car money; she refused. Ex is currently seeing an escort despite claiming to prefer younger women with low body count.

05:26:40
Dominatrix discussion

Kitty reveals she was a professional dominatrix at Pandora's Box NYC. Had a "slave/pet" she walked on a leash with "Property of Kitty" collar at her NJ bar job. Maya also reveals she was a professional dominatrix. Discussion of client demographics: alpha men, executives, athletes — all types. Hot firefighter client had babysitter kink (OTK). Consultation alone cost $700+ minimum; full sessions thousands. Avery notes dominatrix work paid more than OnlyFans.

05:40:10
Avery's LA dating scene monologue

Avery speaks about LA dating culture: most men she encounters are only interested in sex. Two attempts at dating during 6-month celibacy period resulted in sex-forward interactions. Online dating also same pattern. Many women she knows in LA have stopped going out to parties/underground raves because the environment is too sex-forward. Post-COVID social skills have degraded, especially for Gen Z who were 14 during lockdowns. Kiko adds: "bimbo culture" has led men to assume all women are hypersexualized. Avery says she is not going back out there; content with where she is.

05:42:09
Three guests kicked out

Two unnamed guests who had been making disruptive eye contact / faces at each other for hours are asked to leave by Brian (~342:09). Brian tells them to "kindly go" and their security guard can take them back to LA. Brian says a third guest also left at this point. Context: Avery was trying to share her story about LA dating scene and sex-forward culture. Brian later explains: they had been doing this for 2-3 hours; he had given them passes. All three had reached out to the show themselves to appear.

05:55:00
Closing / end of show

Brian wraps up; closing comments from remaining guests. Recap of why the two girls were kicked out. Discussion of whether guests get paid (they do not; Brian argues mutual promotional benefit). Brian notes Andrew Wilson coming back for future shows. Twitch raid to a WoW Season of Discovery streamer (Stranglethorn Vale Blood Moon event). Final goodnight.

Transcript

Page 2 of 7
00:57:41
Taylorbeen if you're nice to me and you drop it I'll let it go but you can't do I did drop it I didn't say [ __ ] why don't you apologize for all the stuff you said apologizing for exct so you apologize for what I do that you I'm not running my mouth on these [ __ ] podcasts like you no but you make 20-minute videos
00:57:54
Taylorabout it while I talk about for after I watch this come on no it was everything I said was in a respon St to gaslighting bro you got to grow up dude grow up you know what I think you owe me some apologies for what you owe me apologies
00:58:06
Brian Atlaswhat do I ow you an apology for I owed many apologies from you you've said very mean things like what I actually hype you up a lot of the times H remember remember the last time you were on the last time you were on
00:58:18
KikoKiko we you know there's the whole thing with the DHS and you're like good I want to see the whatever burn out I did not say that I said I didn't want to see I want to see I wanted to see the manosphere be investigated for the
00:58:31
Kikothings that it can be you want me to be investigated by the feds I want there to be some snitch regulation you snitch she is she [ __ ] snitch she already said it yes I'm criminology major I can't wait to maybe put on a patrol suit [ __ ]
00:58:43
Kikoone day I am a snitch I an OP that is me all the way through and through oper what do we want to say about it are you a scop you you're aspiring aspiring s Sab sabur Are you a sabator you know how
00:58:56
Kikomany people have reached out to me trying to get me to sabotage you it would have been done long all the time wait really yes damn that's sketch I don't care enough okay I don't do the whole media [ __ ] you're welcome not
00:59:07
Brian Atlasreally for your benefit it's cuz I'm lazy I'm just kidding wow that was good you're not yourself
00:59:19
Brian Atlaswhen you're hungry wa Snickers Snickers all right guys get yourself a Snickers I'm allergic to nuts good nice to know I just want to
00:59:31
TTS Donation ReaderPO $2 much as I am enjoying the cat fight and watching the girls run the money makers can the girls rank themselves as wife material 1 to 10 I'm sorry I'm
00:59:43
Brian Atlastrying to like into my legs wife material wife material on a scale of 1 to 10 how wifey are we wifeu wifey oh there's like two two that another one that's about to come sing we're going to
00:59:55
TTS Donation Readerrate that that we're going to do that but we have another one that's coming in and then and then we'll do it loose [ __ ] energy donated $200 Brian bust out the gloves and move
01:00:05
TTS Donation Readerout everything the way everybody wants the smoke and catch a fade let's [ __ ] go don't start nothing won't be none guy
01:00:15
TTS Donation Readerat day putos # get the rocks number8 at 18 don't start nothing won't be none Kiko I'm so sorry for starting this all
01:00:27
Brian Atlasright you said up sorry good job wasn't to you it was to Brian good job what a [ __ ] good job what is like crawled up your [ __ ] like relax [ __ ] we're going to move on we're going to move on put
01:00:38
Brian Atlasyour swords away we're going to do the wife rating okay you're going to rank yourself on a scale of 1 to 10 for wife are you wife material well I must be a 10 because I'm
01:00:50
Brian Atlasgetting married next month well could couldn't it be the case though hyp not not directed at you but couldn't somebody be getting married but not be
01:00:59
Kikowife materal okay uh not saying it's the case for you realistically probably an eight right now I would say a seven I
01:01:09
Kikolose three points for for what I'm a bartender okay that yep I um smoke cannabis and vape I don't think that's
01:01:19
Brian Atlasvery wifey like not wifey and then third I wake up late a lot once I take those things away I think 10 so take away the vaping bartending and waking up late
01:01:31
Kikothen you're 10 out of 10 on the wife's cuz for me wifey material is like mother like um motherhood material so I think that's like those three all right what what about you um I think I would give it an eight like the only like two
01:01:44
Aurorapoints off would be like from like cuz I do only fans probably that would be like the only reason okay because like I know how to cook clean like I'm funny like oh cook
01:01:56
Brian Atlasfunny that's all you need right as you think that's something men prioritize as human yes they always do like they talk about funny so she's wife material funny cook and clean like that's all they talk
01:02:06
Brian Atlasabout right is it that's like the main points like that's like the the main thing guys care about is funny oh and virginity I'm a virgin I
01:02:16
Auroraonly have eex that's I hold up you [ __ ] way I don't buy it you're a virgin yeah you actually you do only fans yeah you're virgin well yeah I only have eex that's on the internet and I
01:02:29
Brian Atlaslike your friends with her is it true she's a legit not a born- again virgin she's never had sex she hasor again what is that real that's it's
01:02:40
Kikolike cybering if like to use a Super Bo ter do I like cyber sex she's also only 18 so but she does o
01:02:52
KikoI know I mean yeah that does take away from The Virginity a lot for you I won't lie that does okay I get that but like I'm not like I'm different I guess cuz I'm a virgin that's cool though [ __ ] I like with it you should make like some
01:03:04
Auroramerch with stop C unless you consider like eex like virginity taking like you [ __ ] liar you're a [ __ ] liar wait are you saying that I believe
01:03:16
Auroraher she only dates dudes on Discord doesn't leave her house bro like believe it or not bro like I'm literally a [ __ ] weird nerd like I only have e deplorable d
01:03:27
TTS Donation Reader$2 isor but my head hurts when she speaks stop saying like hi value men want a woman that can hold an
01:03:36
Auroraintelligent conversation also before it persists the plural of woman is women has anybody know I I think it's just the way we talk no yeah I know women and
01:03:46
Kikowoman wait they always comment on that okay woman woman I'm saying two different words here woman woman woman woman it sounds the same I don't know if it's California accent or what but they
01:03:57
Auroraalways talk about that wait is anybody else here a virgin oh yeah oh my God yeah how do you you wait so would you date since you're like Christian or whatever like I'm
01:04:09
AuroraChristian too but like not like strict like what how you are I can tell you're not strict but like would like is your type Like a Virgin like that's what your wife like that's what you're looking for uh oh my God I keep saying like I'm so
01:04:20
Mason Gregoiresorry whoever said that apology acceptance uh Brian actually will not uh accept any uh girlfriend applications on my behalf for those who are not virgins oops am
01:04:31
Mason Gregoiresorry I missed up but uh personally I I don't care um now I do have to give a caveat um I know the statistics for those who have had sex before marriage
01:04:42
Mason Gregoireif you have more than five sexual partners before marriage you're only 20% likely to have a successful relationship I believe in any of that but like I'm just I don't find interest it doesn't
01:04:53
Mason Gregoirematter what you believe in it's more like it's a it's a statistical fact so if you have five or more sexual partners before marriage your marriage is only 20% likely to succeed wait really that's
01:05:06
Kikolike an actual fact that's an actual fact that's crazy it is crazy that for men too uh I don't know about men is it okay that's which is fine I'm thinking it is yeah yeah theistic is fine but a
01:05:16
Mason Gregoirelot of men like to use it in for wom it's I say the same thing for men yeah number might be different but it's it's probably a little bit like maybe it's a little like more yeah like seven or something it's the same idea but a lot
01:05:28
Brian Atlasof people like to like ignore that part so you're you're seriously claiming virgin but you have an only fans do you do you post nude content on there um
01:05:40
Auroralike what do you consider like nude like your clothes are off do you have clothes on yeah wow wait no no clothes yeah that's sad that's nude yeah yeah so nude
01:05:50
Mason Gregoirecontent yeah okay see see you're uh you're um confusion between the the difference of nude and not nude also calls into question your definition of Virgin versus not virgin well I know
01:06:02
Aurorabecause that's why I'm asking does eex consider as like having real sex no right so how how so as a Christian I just [ __ ] myself like on the like on a
01:06:12
Mason GregoireDiscord so as a Christian what don't claim god with yeah that saying that yeah okay well what take dick take dick
01:06:23
Mason Gregoireokay so as a Christian Jesus himself self said if you lust after a woman you have already committed adultery in your heart with that woman so in your position Jesus sees sin as not just sin
01:06:35
Mason Gregoireof the flesh so what you do what your actions are he looks at the heart he sees what is in the heart heart of the person that causes them to sin my family is Christian I know I know I know so
01:06:45
Aurorayour family's Christian is your dad Christian my dad I don't really know what my dad is I don't I think he's not really religious but like my mom's side like they're all Christian okay mhm
01:06:56
Mason Gregoirego go ahead the point I'm trying to make is men also desire loyalty from a woman loyalty in mind in body and soul so
01:07:07
Mason Gregoirewhen and God commands this of women as well for uh women who are Christians you are to be loyal you are to be loyal to God you're supposed to obey his commands all of these things but as a man I want
01:07:18
Mason Gregoiremy woman to be loyal and if she's putting pictures of herself out there naked giving herself to every Tom Dick and Harry out there I don't want that no no Christian man will want that no
01:07:30
Mason GregoireChristian man who takes the Bible serious and takes the Lord seriously is going to want that I take the Lord seriously and H no you don't I do no you
01:07:39
Mason Gregoiredon't I do maybe not a serious say no so God himself says that if you love me you will keep my Commandments but is like being against only fans in the Bible
01:07:49
Mason Gregoirebeing against sexual immorality is in the Bible everywhere yeah yeah do God himself talks about the [ __ ] of Babylon like giving themselves out to every
01:08:01
Mason Gregoireevery man who comes across them like the Bible speaks upon this extensively you're preaching to her she don't even care she's just laughing what's that saying don't cast PE she not listening to you yeah don't cast Pearls Before
01:08:13
TaylorSwine well we all have our different perspectives on God so no I mean relationship with God okay actually no there's yeah the Bible actually hits on this as well but you just said you're Christian you didn't say you're a multiple religion and then you're
01:08:24
Mason Gregoirelaughing I'm not no I think it's first Peter 20 or first Peter so first Peter or second Peter 1 verse2 actually says that there is only one interpretation of
01:08:35
Mason GregoireGod's word and it's from the spirit and there's only one way to interpret the Bible it's the truth there are no multiple truths there's only one truth so I mean you can say as much as you
01:08:47
Mason Gregoirewant you can say I'm a Christian I Take God seriously but if your actions say otherwise then the reality is probably not as pleasant as you want why do you consider yourself a Christian right
01:08:59
Aurorabecause I was raised Christian and I believe in Jesus and I love Jesus and I know that oh you're right never mind like maybe some of the things I do like are sinful and like he doesn't support it but like he knows like how I think
01:09:12
Auroraand I like I know he forgives me for like the way that I do things because I I agree that they're wrong but like there's also reasons why I do things and why I do
01:09:23
Auroraonly fans and he understands that so I feel like I don't have a bad relationship with Jesus well it doesn't matter how you feel when no no okay
01:09:35
Mason GregoireGod's position on sin is one of extremity like he is a perfect God and he demands Perfection that puts us in an extremely uncomfortable position because I'm not perfect you're not perfect we
01:09:47
Mason Gregoireare in the same boat we deserve God's Wrath so he tells us to repent and believe what does repentance mean it means I am broken over my sin I know that it is wrong and I hate it therefore
01:10:00
Mason GregoireI'm going to turn away from it and chase after God it's not this Le Fair like oh Jesus knows my he knows that I know it's sinful but I have to do it for now and I'm just going to spit in his face with
01:10:12
Mason Gregoiremy actions and he'll just forgive me in the end that's not love if I had a relationship with somebody and I said I loved them but I spit in their face with my actions I go and cheat on them I do all of these evil things against them
01:10:25
Mason Gregoireand then I come to them and say oh don't worry babe I love you I got eyes only for you like I'm not going to believe me like I wouldn't believe me that's insane
01:10:35
Mason Gregoireso when Christians come out Christians come out and say that I love God he he knows I'm sinful but he he forgives me but then I live my life like the world
01:10:45
Mason GregoireJesus himself says like if you live like the world if you look like the world you are of the world my my children know my voice and they come to me there are good fruit I mean good trees will produce
01:10:58
Auroragood fruit bad trees will produce bad fruit I totally agree with you like I'm not going to lie like I agree with you and I what I do is like bad and like whatever like I wish I could be like what like Jesus wants for me but like I
01:11:11
Mason GregoireI would encourage you I totally agree with you yeah I would encourage you to open up your Bible and and just see what God has to say about like who he is I know he doesn't
01:11:22
TTS Donation Readerlike what I do yeah well if you why do you do if can I ask you I'm confused like I'm confused on you don't feel like you're worth more than that grid One Motorsports donated
01:11:32
TTS Donation Reader$200 Mason is being nice the Bible says that you are sinning without remorse and acting in unrepentant lust without changing your evil ways and repenting
01:11:43
Auroraand seeking atonement you are going to hell so he he's right but I also want you to see like no I totally agree with what you're saying like I'm not saying I
01:11:53
Mason Gregoirethink that myself but like to like actually bring myself to it what I would ask you to do is you can leave it leave it number one submit yourself
01:12:04
Mason Gregoireto a good local church find find one that teaches the Bible has a plurality of Elders who takes the word of God seriously read on it not not just
01:12:14
Mason Gregoirelooking okay what does the Bible say about sexual sin but who is God what is his character learn about him cuz if you love him you'll want to know more about him and as you do that you'll understand
01:12:26
Mason Gregoirethe deeper things that you need to know then all of the things like should I be practicing this and that that'll become clear because right now it just doesn't seem that's clear for you cuz I think you don't really understand who God is and what he asks of us and what he
01:12:39
Mason Gregoireprovides cuz it's so much better than what I think I do have to move on life material scale of 1 to 10 go ahead I give myself a solid nine I give myself a
01:12:49
Brian Atlasfour like an eight into the mic please uh nine eight all right thank you grid One Motorsports appreciate it here let me read a couple chats here just to get
01:13:02
Kikocaught up on them we have another one from grid one uh Kiara can I have you read these men can lose weight get a better job change their outlook on life and build themselves into better men is
01:13:14
Brian Atlasa lot harder for a Plastic Fantastic shallow salute to become a woman worth having well okay thank you grid One Motorsports really appreciate it good to see you in the chat man think you've
01:13:24
Kikobeen go on a couple shows good to see you back we have flamethrower 82 hey thank you so much man appreciate it me again yeah why does he have to change for you to like him we don't buy an Android wanting for it to become an
01:13:36
KikoiPhone that sounds like you don't like the product you're buying for those of you who said that if you want to respond I agree wait but you she's confused she's 18 her mind should probably change eight times in sitting
01:13:49
Brian Atlasin that seat oh her her prefrontal cortex is that it not developed okay I mean these aren't great examples of what i' be talking about
01:13:59
Brian Atlasuh okay well I so the the question is why does he have to change for you to like him she already likes him as is that's
01:14:09
Brian Atlasmy understanding you just want to adjust certain behaviors for what
01:14:21
Brian Atlasreason um wait why am I answering this I feel like I don't know who was the one who says you like to change you want to change men I think it was you two that's
01:14:30
Maya (split label)why I'm directing it it you can answer too I feel like there's an inherent part of women that you know because we think
01:14:40
Maya (split label)more emotionally than logically we're more likely to see the potential in a man and maybe it is part delusion in thinking that he will get to that point
01:14:52
Maya (split label)but like the comment said I want I'm okay with dating an Android as long as he's he eventually wants to be an iPhone as well if I could see him as an iPhone
01:15:03
Maya (split label)like but he you know but he has to be able to see himself one day as an iPhone too so sorry I was thinking of something else I wasn't I wasn't reacting to you and I don't think there's anything wrong
01:15:15
Maya (split label)with the way that women inherently um see potential value in their in their in their man and I don't think it's wrong for a woman to want her
01:15:25
Brian Atlasman to prosper and grow in the world and I don't think a man shouldn't feel that way about himself either okay we have kill of cial Gua cencio keep your beef on the streets use that same energy and
01:15:37
Brian Atlasuse it towards debating on different topics that the whatever podcast offers that's why you're here that's why we're here from Killa of Cal I was here to debate I don't if that was directed towards you guys want to debate on
01:15:49
Kikosomething well if we could get around the table on a full conis of thought something yeah is there anything dating related that you guys disagree on just us two or the table well you two
01:16:02
Brian Atlasyeah honestly we probably agree on a lot of stuff which is funny she would never Common Ground look at that there's Common Ground you guys are like best friends now no I wouldn't
01:16:12
Brian Atlasokay never mind never my best friend back they don't talk [ __ ] about oh no God okay um all right could be so ju it out
01:16:25
Kikowe could duke it out then choce it out I don't I'm not a man I don't do that that's how men men handle issues fight and then make up that's fine fight fight and then fine um like fight it out no like can't be cool with somebody who's
01:16:38
Taylornot cool with you that makes no sense it's hard to be cool with somebody who makes everything a joke and doesn't take anything serious cuz this we were in a little moving on we're going to move on we're moving on we're moving on we're
01:16:47
Brian Atlasmoving on we're moving on okay so wait it's Aurora and Avery correct okay so I'm getting into I'm going to get into some my pre-show notes here so and this this is going to sort of segue from our
01:16:59
Brian Atlasconversation we were having about you know the of and uh so Aurora you in your pre-show notes here you said that you're and if you want to split Nick you said that you were
01:17:11
Brian Atlasconservative and traditional is that correct yeah okay and then Avery are do you also consider yourself uh conservative yes and traditional yes and you're both Christian correct yes cuz a
01:17:24
Brian AtlasI've seen in some of your photos on your Instagram you wear a cross um so we're going to do who and by the way actually opening this up to the rest of the panel who here considers themselves
01:17:35
Maya (split label)traditional me traditional no I don't you're you're traditional you yeah traditional traditional but with the sense of reality and the way Society is set up
01:17:46
Brian Atlastoday okay same traditional no no half traditional half traditional okay so we're g to do a segment called are they
01:17:57
Brian Atlastraditional uh so we're g to pull up Alex's Instagram Aurora's Instagram and Avery's Instagram we're going to are they traditional in this Dimension what's that I think by my Instagram I would be
01:18:11
Brian Atlastraditional you're going to say but I think yours is on private isn't it yeah all right we have Alex's Instagram here Nick make it uh small please who's that I'm
01:18:20
Brian Atlasscared all right so this is Alex here girl in seat number one scroll down is she traditional well I po my is she oh
01:18:31
Brian Atlasthere it is there's uh there's the the hubby the fiance excuse me okay all right got the buns out and buns the
01:18:40
Brian Atlasbooties the booties out oh [ __ ] shots fired okay uh is she traditional scroll to the bottom scroll
01:18:49
Alex (engaged)to the bottom there you go and you do you also said that you do only fans correct yes but my fiance he manages it so I feel like that could be traditional
01:19:02
Mason Gregoirewait what but so okay way I mean I agree that it's not too traditional or not traditional chat traditional not traditional did you know that in the
01:19:14
Mason Gregoire1970s if you dressed like you did in that picture the secular authorities would have cuffed you arrested you and throw you in a mental institute wait in which which photo in most of those
01:19:25
Brian Atlasphotos like I agree isn't she bik I mean weren't there bikinis and [ __ ] in the 70s bik bikis I don't know what pieces
01:19:35
Mason Gregoirelike extremely yeah Marilyn Monroe was risque in her like really covered one piece she did yeah so traditional not traditional Chap and but you also do
01:19:48
Brian Atlasonly fans wait guys guys stop stop hey stop shut the [ __ ] up guys shut the [ __ ] up kindly One microphone at a time go ahead
01:19:58
Alex (engaged)um I stopped doing it for a while though we just started back up but he manages the whole thing so it's like I'm not I don't look at it I don't post anything to it he does it all and just me and him
01:20:10
Mason Gregoirethat's sad was it his idea or yours I'm not going to answer that's sad it was both of ours regardless it's like why why would why would your soon to be husband want to use your body the thing
01:20:21
Mason Gregoirethat should be sacred to him no I don't think so he's agre he's man well it doesn't matter what you agree to I mean like there are a lot of people who agree to be in terrible relationships I'm not I'm
01:20:34
Mason Gregoirenot saying that you have a terrible relationship I'm just using it as an example but he's using your body and he's managing all of this stuff thing that should be his very personally very soon as you get married for financial
01:20:46
Alex (engaged)gain essentially he's using you as an object to make money which is like deeply concerning well okay I understand that too that Friday ask the girl in Figaroa
01:20:59
Alex (engaged)she's gonna tell you she loves her pimp that's her daddy that's her boyfriend is my daddy he's your pimp daddy that's what he is he's he he doesn't pit me out like that though like
01:21:10
Taylorwhat he manages your only fans I mean obviously he doesn't conventionally pimp you out but he does pimp you out to the internet he's selling you her body on man is going to want other men to see your body men are protected honestly
01:21:23
Alex (engaged)it's heartbreaking it's not like he a bunch of like it I wouldn't say he care about you but I think he does because he's he's been around many girls and he chose me over all of them right did he ask them to do only fans first and they
01:21:34
Brian Atlassaid no he didn't like any of them he he only liked me I actually I mean I I don't know what the scope of your only fans is but I mean just talking about your Instagram me personally I I don't
01:21:45
Brian Atlashave like a massive judgment or ma major object like individual objections to what's on your only fans typically my my
01:21:55
Brian Atlastrain of thought with this question is if you call yourself a modern woman I don't really object to your Instagram but if you're going to like kind of try to not I don't know if the right word is
01:22:07
Brian Atlassteal but if you're going to represent yourself as a traditional conservative woman but you're not particularly modest in your in your public facing you know
01:22:18
Brian AtlasInstagram I it's like well you got to kind of call that out because it's like well you're claiming to be this one thing but you're kind of not yeah I
01:22:27
Alex (engaged)agree with that too I try to be you know traditional but also I traditional I I understand that too though I agree at the same time okay now we have two other
01:22:39
Kikotraditional conservative no no no no you can't walk it back now can't walk it back now so we're going to pull up that's not like that you're can't be married next
01:22:49
Brian AtlasInstagram please all right we have Aurora in 4k here okay uh so scroll
01:22:59
Brian Atlasdown traditional not quite wow your body I need the ab scr scroll back up a little bit okay there it is traditional or not traditional I traditional or not
01:23:11
Brian Atlasscroll back up I believe in being tradition top and then there's your there's your only fans link right oh okay all right so okay I wouldn't say I'm traditional
01:23:22
Aurorabut like I and you're also Christian too yeah do your family know you do that I'm not like strictly Christian but like I believe in Christianity I have no idea what that means okay like she believes in Jesus
01:23:34
Mason Gregoireshe believes in a higher power I actually I agree with that statement I I I you can believe in Christianity you can believe in Jesus but even Jesus said even the Devils believe that I know that
01:23:46
Mason GregoireI am God so you can believe in it but it's do you submit to God's Authority do you love God that is the defining question that's deep she don't even care
01:23:58
Aurorano I do I do I swear to God I I think that's deep and like I wish it's just J I don't we'll fix you we'll fix you yeah we'll fix you okay not in a romantic way okay that's
01:24:11
Brian Atlasnot what I meant either okay I know the way you're saying it uh and then we'll pull up Avery uh there's her off Link at the
01:24:21
Brian Atlastop there scroll down slow so chat traditional or not traditional booty photo you play basketball in a bikini what the hell bikini bikini look it's
01:24:32
Brian Atlasnot the worst we've seen worse on here but is it traditional that's and you're Christian correct wait back up wait click on the middle one there
01:24:45
Brian Atlasclick on the middle one okay you're wearing a cross necklace right yes okay and then X out and then the right one click on that one you're also wearing a cross necklace in this
01:24:55
Brian Atlasphoto too right mhm okay so you're a Christian yeah okay while your your Instagram is a not the most modest and
01:25:04
Brian Atlasthen you do have that link there to your uh o which I assume you post nude pornographic content what do you mean you don't can't really say what do you mean you can't say cuz then that will leave my fans
01:25:17
Brian Atlaslike they got to subscribe to find out no no no we're not going to play that game why don't you just tell us why don't you just tell us what kind of content you wait what if it was just like not new like bikini pics and everything like would you consider that you me well I'm not really interested in
01:25:30
Brian Atlasright now in engaging in hypothetical why don't you just tell me what it's not fully on there it's partial nudity though correct okay and same for you
01:25:39
Kikocorrect she said she' be she be just asking you that's what she said wait what D you'd be DJ in the club like what do you mean you're little you play with
01:25:51
Aurorayourself online no I don't yeah yeah whatever said like 20 minutes ago I did not say that but subscribe to find out anyways wait
01:26:02
Brian Atlaswhat um do you want to answer the question wait what question so what kind of content are you making on there um I am making nude content okay partially nude
01:26:14
Brian Atlasokay so you're both Christian you at least initially said you were both conservative and and uh traditional um I'm just curious with you on your only fans you you're wearing a cross do you wear that while you're
01:26:26
Mayashooting the adult content I don't think so no usually don't have any jewelry on okay now you are religious though correct you're Christian M okay do you think God
01:26:37
Brian Atlasapproves of you just split it please do you think God approves of you of doing adult content no I'm I'm with aora like I know
01:26:47
MayaI I understand that it's bad but I I know I know he knows it's bad and like I'm obviously not like the proudest but I still consider myself Christian I got a question hold on hold on hold on
01:26:59
Auroraplease it's no no no no no hold on and do do you think that God approves of you doing adult content I don't think he approves of it but I feel like he understands reasons why I do it um I agree so she asked you earlier though
01:27:12
Kikowhy you do it and you said cuz you're confused so why do you guys do only fans like why are you guys homeless without it like money like what is the abely besides just King the money like why you
01:27:24
Mason Gregoirehousehold and like I didn't it wasn't my first choice like but you're 18 so it kind of was your first choice cuz how much time did you no it there's a story there's a story in the Bible of the Rich
01:27:34
Mason GregoireYoung Ruler where uh Jesus tells him come and follow me well no no the Rich Young Ru presents himself to him says Hey Lord let me I want to follow you I want to do I I want to love you I want
01:27:46
Mason Gregoireto do what you want me to do I've done all these things in my life I'm good I've kept the Commandments and then uh Jesus tells him sell everything you own come and follow me and because he was a
01:27:58
Mason Gregoireman of great wealth and he loved his money and his riches more than he loved Christ he walked away and that's what that's what Jesus commands of his followers to get rid of get rid of the
01:28:09
Mason Gregoirethings that keep us away from him because if we claim that these things are more important than our walk with God then we're not really his children well the world we live in today is really evil and it's unfortunate because
01:28:22
AuroraI wish I could live like that but I don't want to be like struggling like I I love God but like I don't want to like in this world we live in it's modern days like if you're homeless like you're
01:28:33
Mason Gregoireyour life is sh I would make the argument that people I I would make the argument that people in Jesus's time were struggling a little more than people who are struggling right now so
01:28:45
Taylorwhen he called the Rich Young R we're surrounded with shitty people in this whole entire world we're surrounded moving on go ahead T can I say something respectful I come from a very toxic household too I've been working since I was 16 years old I've never sold my body
01:28:58
TaylorI did everything I could to get to where I'm at I'm a licensed therapist now and I content create do you know how hard it took me to get to where I'm at and I've never sold my body so when you're saying that it's kind of like of an excuse I'm not trying to attack you whatsoever cuz like I said it's your life whatever but
01:29:11
Tayloryou're using the excuse of having a toxic family I didn't have a mom I didn't have a lot of things growing up so you could work at a warehouse you can be you can do a lot of things I make six figures now because of social media but I had to get up there I used to bartend just like her and I didn't want to do
01:29:23
Taylorthat I used to wash dishes I used to work in a freaking warehouse loading trailers you think a girl wants to do that no so when you guys are saying this stuff and then talking about God it makes no sense if you cared a lot about God you'd follow the way he he wants you to be not however you think you should
01:29:36
Aurorabe and like the excuses to me I'm not trying to be rude but it just sounds crazy well you know like I know it sounds crazy like I do only fans and I sin but I still pray to God every day every night yeah I also still have goals I'm a student as well if I steal every
01:29:48
Taylorsingle day and tell God please thank you like how does that work if I go hurting people in this world and then say Oh God forgives me you're not learning your lesson God sees you okay when you make a mistake and you pray to God God sees you for what you do afterwards and you don't
01:30:01
Taylorfeel bad enough you don't care enough because it would make you stop and like I said you just said you game right you're beautiful you know how many people would get on your freaking twitch because of how you look you don't even have to do nothing you don't have to pull your clothes off or I can help you
01:30:13
TTS Donation Readermake money instead of doing l f it's I don't want this to seem like an attack at all at all kilo of cereal donated $200 your body is the most sacred in intimate form of your being says a lot
01:30:26
TTS Donation Readerabout a person who is willing to compromise that sanctity for something as Superfluous as money get a skill save your soul amen it's I'm we're not talking you guys but there's just so many women these days that are like
01:30:39
Kikogirls as soon as they turn 18 they're like oh I'm just going to do it while I'm in school to make some money it's not just to do it to do make some money that's your life now like you will forever your to you yeah so it's not just you guys but it's not just like a oh I don't know what I'm going to do so
01:30:52
KikoI'm going to make some money on only fans would you guys have gone to the strip club would you guys have hopped up in PornHub if only fans wasn't an option no so then exactly why you shouldn't have been doing only fans you weren't that Des different though they're not though they're not it's all to everyone
01:31:04
Kikowho doesn't do that stuff PornHub only fan shipper that's all coinciding all is together everyone I mean honestly stripping I would say is probably less
01:31:15
Mason Gregoireof a red flag I completely line forever yeah cuz it's online for yeah stripping is honestly less of a red flag to me and only fan
01:31:25
Mason Gregoirecontent not on there forever when when they're 40 like it it is a good it is a safe bet that they're not going to have that content online but only fans when you're 40 when you're
01:31:36
TTS Donation Reader50 when you have children grandchildren that content will be online forever grid One Motorsports donated $200 we literally live in the easiest
01:31:46
TTS Donation Readertime in the history of man just be real and say you do not want to actually work you are not willing to move to somewhere that is cheaper to live get help be
01:31:56
Aurorabetter I actually how is it the EAS the EAS it's actually the hard it's the hardest time wait wait time for people who do only fans what
01:32:07
Aurorawhat he he says it's the easiest history yeah I have to kind of push back on this I have to push back hold hold hold hold hold that's the easiest way that's what he's talking about the only he's
01:32:20
Brian Atlassaying right now we live in the easiest time in the history of man in terms of like comfort so do you think life is easier today as compared to say 300
01:32:31
Mason Gregoireyears ago did he say 300 years ago like out of all history this is the easiest time to ever live I don't know I didn't live 300 years take a guess it think back to your
01:32:45
Kikoback to your high school or college history classes I feel like it it's getting harder like every year life is harder not for us only fans there's no indoor she's not looking at that site she's looking inflation and all that stuff
01:32:58
Kikothat's going on the past years that's what I'm getting into her head she's not thinking about the fact that 200 years ago we didn't have these things she her mind is only set on the fact that gas and eggs are expensive right now so she thinks it's harder than before okay you
01:33:10
Brian Atlasknow you know the toilet there weren't toilets we didn't even have rights back [ __ ] in the ocean like [ __ ] in the ocean son what if you're an Idaho [ __ ] in the
01:33:22
Brian Atlaslake in the lake you well think about it this way what if there's just a tributary like that's just what if there's just a tributary what what if there's just a tributary no she does not know what that
01:33:34
Brian Atlasis you don't know what a tributary is could you Google tributary tributary Google that [ __ ] I hope I used it right I probably imagine it's like something totally unrelated tributary well modern
01:33:44
Brian AtlasComforts are like such [ __ ] I got he's pull it up Google tributary not the meaning just you got it Nick oh I want to hear what you have to say it up tributary a river stream flowing into a
01:33:56
Avery Jennerlarger River like you know you could okay then [ __ ] in air like what the [ __ ] that was pretty Nery all right just to put it in perspective even the homeless people now like around La a lot of them
01:34:07
Avery Jennerare able to get free food they have not necessarily a safe place to live but there are things in place so that they live somewhat a better life than people back in history starving who didn't have
01:34:20
Avery Jennerany type of shelter they at least have tents they have restaurants that they can go to where they get free food at the end of the day M that's why people choose to be homeless in La yeah that I was going to make that point and some of
01:34:30
Avery Jennerthem have money like I know this there's this one homeless woman on Venice Beach they call her the general that [ __ ] is a millionaire and she chooses to be
01:34:40
Avery Jennerhomeless she has her own station on Venice Beach save a lot of money only reason why she probably is she wouldn't be a millionaire if she L of them choose to be homeless because it's easier to to
01:34:51
Alex (massage) / Kittytake other people's money than try to work for their own right and there's one thing I do have to say not only that if you put I know from other people I haven't but if you apply homeless and
01:35:03
Kikoget food stamps they also give you I think like $200 a month or something like that you Dent all that stuff for free that's crazy in Santa Barbara if you spend one night in the shelter they'll get you on six and8 like
01:35:14
Brian Atlasimmediately yeah wow it's too easy we're going to switch gears here but you know listen if you guys want to
01:35:22
Kikoconsider stop and being homeless would you be homeless if you stopped [ __ ] no you're not your money you're not saving any of that money that's insane she just said she wouldn't be homeless if she stopped so there's no you wait if you
01:35:35
Aurorastopped only f i I heard that wrong you would be homeless if you stopped only fans um I mean I could live with my parents my family but like without them probably yeah just save your money if you be smart about save your money
01:35:47
Brian Atlasmoving on living Brian is about two months away from having a bigger bra size than Kiko Brian please respect your viewers and lose some goddamn weight you're sitting further away from the table each episode yeah man getting chubby working on it you know I got to
01:35:59
Brian Atlaslose some weight it's in the works it's in the works me and Mason he's [ __ ] putting me on boot camp oh yeah I'm I'm what did my titties do to you guys bro good question God damn good question yeah I'm working on it boys I'm working
01:36:11
Brian Atlason it it doesn't help that Maddie back here welcome back Maddie she made a lemon cake for the show and I had like two slices okay I'm working on it boys working on it diet time it's it's
01:36:23
Brian Atlashappening boys okay where were we we were here let's just do this Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 going around the table starting with you go ahead um an eight
01:36:35
Avery Jennerokay I'm feeling like a seven I'm feeling like a seven or eight eight 10 I feel like it's kind of boring today so like a
01:36:45
Alex (massage) / Kittyfive okay I'm going to say a 67 because we're well la different states vary sinko 5 uh eight
01:36:56
Mayafive so we have 110 at the table we have a perfect a perfect woman here I don't think I'm perfect but no I think I'm a 10 I love myself and I'm happy with myself and I wouldn't change a thing
01:37:08
Mayaabout myself so I think I'm a 10 you wouldn't change anything about yourself no I'm happy you am no you don't
01:37:17
Brian Atlasno I don't have you ever had lip filler no you might be telling the truth but also the way you're saying it getting all shy no I haven't I haven't all
01:37:29
Alex (engaged)right I love myself I'm happy with myself I think I'm a 10 you're beautiful thank you is your actual last name Jenner I say you look like kendle Jenner actually like be one of them I feel like
01:37:42
Aurorathe three points that I take off from a 10 is like the three insecurities that I have which are what I don't know like they vary sometimes but like I feel like it's majority like three maybe like I'll
01:37:53
Auroraget like a tit job um I have a big ass forehead and like um it's barely four fingers forehead it looks normal to me I don't know well to you guys yeah but
01:38:07
Auroralike to me like everyone has their own insecurities what they call that body this I've seen your I've seen clips of you you said you were like a six or a seven like what you say a six do you have insecurities what what do you mean like
01:38:20
Auroralike why do you give yourself a six cuz like if you give yourself a 10 you have no no insecurities not necessarily well I have insecurities that's why I give myself a
01:38:31
Mason Gregoireseven I don't think it's insecurity well what is it then it's just like you make an objective evaluation of how you look to to how do I think I appear to
01:38:41
Mason Gregoireeverybody else I'm I'm fine with being an eight like I'm it's not because I'm insecure about my looks well when what does the two points take off of then I just don't think I'm
01:38:52
Mason Gregoirea perfect 10 well what makes you not perfect that's insecurities right well okay so like if you want to get in the nitty-gritty of it it's like okay how symmetrical is your face no it's not insecure I just know I'm not perfectly
01:39:05
Auroramy face isn't perfectly symmetrical what if someone else thought that they were but you don't and that's what insecurities are hm what do you mean someone else thought that you what you thought weren't perfect and they thought that they were perfect but like you
01:39:17
Mason Gregoiredon't and that's what an insecurity is or the other person's delusional yeah or the other person could just be insane okay I guess yeah like the uh the evaluation of
01:39:30
Mason Gregoireyourself doesn't mean you have a insecurity if anything it just means you know the truth and you're accurate I feel like yeah that's true too yeah maybe I'm accurate of my
01:39:41
Aurorainsecurities like maybe everyone well said they didn't agree that my forehead was like you know the just be an insecurity because everyone just said my forehead wasn't here so that's why insecurities aren't the points that like how rank yourself cuz that's it's that
01:39:54
Auroraranking even though we're doing it oursel it's technically what other people view you as how do I think that other people perceive me so then what does that mean is it what other people see me as or is what I see me as so what are you guys asking what do you assume
01:40:06
Mayaother people would rank you like compared to the population I guess we'll never know because like we all have insecurities or we don't you know also that like wasn't the question it was like to rate yourself not what you think
01:40:18
Alex (engaged)other people would rate you everyone says I have like an accent from some random ass place I don't know Canada I would have guessed Canada no some people say like Australia I was going to say
01:40:28
Alex (engaged)you look Australian bro it's blonde and blue eyes so okay you're the only 10 um okay I'd change my answer probably a
01:40:38
Alex (engaged)seven is that up or or maybe a six I said eight but probably oh now you're downgrading okay cuz if you're a seven then I'm a six like oh my God shut up is
01:40:47
Mayaanyone going to tell her not you not you oh who um so you're not a 10 it's okay is that like I I think I'm a 10 if you don't think I'm so
01:40:59
Mayaare you asking us think of ourselves or what other people think of ourselves cuz how would we know that the question was like to rate ourselves not what I think other people it's kind they're kind of related though is the thing how 10 is like Model status like think of all the
01:41:13
Taylormost beautiful women in the world if you competing with them one to 10 being the highest that's why I didn't say 10 I'm competing with other women I'm definitely not a 10 yeah so compar to model stat I give myself I I agree like
01:41:24
Aurora10 is a Model status like everyone wants to be a model like perfect like every features are perfect whatever that's what I think a 10 is like like also models all look differently we taking
01:41:35
Kikothese celebrities online and that have a million things done to their face like I'm I'm ranking myself out of a group of allnatural women because I've never done anything to myself so I don't think it's fair that I have to rank myself to Kylie
01:41:46
KikoJenner and [ __ ] what's that girl with the [ __ ] hair over there like they have hella work done that's a whole other rank that's rank them out of the best plastic surgery you could get no that's fair that's fair true you have to
01:41:57
Kikorank yourself against Kylie Jenner for all that then I'll make myself even higher yeah kie before surgery come on
01:42:05
Alex (massage) / Kittyshe had surgery what do you mean she had like a nose job all that three D wait so okay kind of related to this do you think you'll be more
01:42:17
Brian Atlasphysically attractive in 10 years than you are now here we go again and um no cuz you age 10 years yes you you'll be more attractive at 34 I I'm keep on the
01:42:29
Brian Atlaspath I want to get on then I think so at 34 34 we have we not seen what some of these women look like you can look damn good at course you can still be
01:42:39
Kikovery of not all the time black don't crack baby the time notices all right all right what about you I think um well like I'm probably going to get BOTOX in 10 years so like yeah do you think I
01:42:52
Brian Atlasmean I don't know if I look better do you think well I'll look good as a 28y old that's not the question though will you be more attractive in 10 years than you are now how am I going to know that you know just kind of the nature of
01:43:03
Brian AtlasAging that thing well do you want me to like teleport into time like I don't know well like if you if you were a betting woman let's say we put you forward 30 years are you going to be more attractive in 30 years than you are
01:43:15
Brian Atlasnow old I'm going to have Botox and nobody like looks better with botox they when they were younger you're 18 right so 30 years you'll be
01:43:25
Aurora48 so are you more physically attractive now at 18 probably yeah versus 48 what about 38 I mean wait 38 let's bring it down 10 years 38 I'll probably still
01:43:36
Auroralook better now I mean everyone gets ug as they age right about 28 not everybody some people look better when they yeah sometimes like sometimes but like that's if you take care of yourself everyone looks I mean even you said on a on a
01:43:48
Aurorapodcast like before you like younger women because for what reason there's a whole bunch I mean there's a whole bunch of reasons probably one
01:43:58
Kikobecause one because they probably look better yeah I think that's so subjective I've never lined up an 18-year-old and 30-year-old like if and been like 18-year-old automatically more attractive like that's like I don't
01:44:10
Kikothink you're prettier than Taylor and Taylor's 10 years older than you age that's why I don't think I don't see how you guys say like oh when you age you're getting ugly like yeah there's obviously a threshold some people don't look good at a certain age and some people do J
01:44:22
KikoSmith mom looks really good I think most women are sopia what's her name she's like she's like 50 she's like 50 years old you guys are getting
01:44:33
Mason Gregoireconfused there's some extreme confusion going on here it's not like okay I'm going to take one person who's 30 and another person who's 18 that's not the question we ask personally in I get that but I'm saying I think personally most
01:44:45
Kikowomen look better like compared to an 18-year-old I think on average most women look better at 28 than they did at 18 age cuz they're finding themselves better they know how to style themselves how to do themselves up can get in the gym more can have their mind right all
01:44:58
Mason Gregoireof that produces dress themselves better that produces a more attractive woman I don't I don't disagree that like knowing those things are good I'm just saying like physically speaking guys will find those women who are between the ages of
01:45:09
Brian Atlas19 and like 22 the most attractive also your comparison is a bit disingenuous because like you're factoring in like oh if you're styling better the comparison would be a onetoone like for like
01:45:20
Brian Atlascomparison assuming the 18yearold knew how to dress the right way and style the right way they don't though like they can I'm not saying it's ugly she looks great like they look
01:45:31
Kikogreat but I bet their sty better it takes a decade to figure out how to could happened at 24 it could have happened she had maybe has terrible style to you that might have been the what was hit when she was your age but when she was my age she had good style
01:45:43
Kikobut now she has like weird ass sty she's old here let's let get let's get everybody's answer let's get she doesn't care anymore maybe ask a man who's her age when she was my was wearing designer
01:45:53
TTS Donation Readerall the time tenant $200 Brian please preface this question with this phrase all else being equal ladies all else being equal will you be
01:46:06
TTS Donation Readermore or less physically attractive now or in 10 years all else being equal I forgot to do it you're right that's that's right I all else being equal will
01:46:16
Brian Atlasyou be more physically attractive now or in 10 years but one that's unrealistic as hell but for the sake of the hyp the question then still yes yes hypothetical
01:46:27
Brian AtlasI'm I'm just going to say yes yes wait I'm going to say though say no I'm not wait you're not going going to be you can actually just use the like words so we know what the yes or no means okay
01:46:40
Auroracan I say that I will be just as attractive but I'm older it's kind of a fair question no no yes or no I mean I more
01:46:53
Auroraattrative I suppose you could say you could Remain the you'll look the exact same well okay yeah maybe I will but like will I be more attractive or less attractive what if I'm the same amount
01:47:02
Brian Atlasof attractive but I look different I'm the same person I just look older I don't think that's how aging Works what does looking older mean it is
01:47:12
Mason Gregoirethough person but I'm older that's how aging works I changed Souls like what is going okay so say okay we're we're assuming that this person has gone
01:47:21
Mason Gregoirethrough puberty so 18y 18 years old and up mhm so what does it mean well like getting older when someone looks older
01:47:29
Mason Gregoirewhat does that mean um it means that they aged so what does age mean it means that they're getting older what do you mean so usually okay I I'll make it I'll
01:47:41
Mason Gregoirekind of summarize they start getting wrinkles they start getting there we go there we go so they start getting wrinkles so are you going to so why would you get BOTOX because I don't want wrinkles so it would L attrative I mean
01:47:54
Aurorasome people don't care but like so when you're 28 years old and you start to have wrinkles are you going to be less attractive or more attractive than you are right now okay I'm going to say less attractive because I'll probably be insecure about my wrinkles and I'll
01:48:05
Mason Gregoireprobably see myself L attractive the insecurity thing woman the insecurity thing is a personality problem it's not a physical issue okay well I'm just going to say I'm going to be less attractive okay yeah that's fair
01:48:17
Mason Gregoireenough in 10 years mhm all else being equal mhm what does that mean like like you know how to style yourself you have good hygiene all
01:48:27
Maya (split label)that like St the same you get more fit you're more fit no yeah like probably probably not but I already know I'm going to be an attractive person like well into my but
01:48:39
Brian Atlasbut but that's we we all acknowledge that you can be attractive 25 35 45 that's not it's just will you be attractive when you're 10 years older that's all that's not even
01:48:51
Brian Atlasthe question it's not even the question will you be attractive in 10 years again it's not the question if it's a comparison honly probably probably I will be more attractive compared to now
01:49:02
Maya (split label)yeah and you're you're 26 right yeah so you'll be more attractive at 36 than you are now at 26 I think so all things being equal all things being equal as in like
01:49:13
Mason Gregoirenot working out or everything stays the same other than your physical age well then I would look the same no your physical age age you you would look different because
01:49:25
Maya (split label)you've aged but everything else stays the same I don't know that's a hard question but I mean objectively probably not
01:49:37
Brian Atlasokay I feel like I would look better now than I will in 10 all right there you go there you go I would look better in 10 years you're going to look hold on and I said that last all things being you're
01:49:48
Alex (massage) / Kittygoing to look better in 10 years okay I'm going to say better in 10 years years there's also two reasons why surgery which change physical and then
01:49:59
Brian Atlasalso there is a whole thing okay all things being equal let's assume you can get the surgery now you can get the surgery now and then the surgery just
01:50:10
Mason Gregoirewhatever the improvements of the surgery are they maintain throughout time okay then it would be I guess huh older yeah the only thing that changes
01:50:21
Mason Gregoireyour age nothing changes so the effects of Aging the only thing that takes place then I guess better now then okay
01:50:32
Brian Atlaswait so okay really quick going back to you so you're 23 right now you're saying in you'll be more physically attractive at 33 than you are now at 23 yes and then it sounds like you changed your answer
01:50:44
Alex (massage) / Kittybegrudgingly cuz there's this whole gen Z and there's this whole gen Z and Millennials which have been looked like you could even look it up online why do Millennials age better than gen Z
01:50:57
Mason Gregoireright now a lot of the younger no I thought think it's reversed actually Millennials age worse no yeah cuz there's that one what's his name he's like Jordan the
01:51:08
Mason Gregoirestallion that's it he he talks about this because there was like people kept saying why do Millennials look so old and he looks like he's like 36 and he's
01:51:17
Kikolike 26 and because he's commenting on this phenomena where m just seem to look older well what she's referencing is a lot of gen Z as of right now they don't look bad cuz they're still young but
01:51:30
Kikothey look significantly older at that age than Millennials did so how aging works if they already look a lot older like I see a lot of 20-year-olds who look this older than 30 old old a lot more now than before so when they are 30
01:51:42
Kikothey're going to look 40 so she's saying that gen Z is aging a lot worse because they look same with London I I thought she said it was the other way around like they're older but they look younger that's what she was saying I think the
01:51:54
Kikowomen look older EXA that's what I'm saying yeah yeah we agree women look older but men look a lot younger depends depends I think it's of
01:52:05
Brian Atlassurgery anyway we're getting off topic T I think I'll look better now than later in life okay uh going around the table once more for those of you who said better in 10
01:52:15
Brian Atlasyears let's double down on this better looking in 20 years [ __ ] versus 10 uh versus compared to now all things being equal I don't know definitely no no I'm going to go with 34 is the
01:52:27
Brian Atlasbest okay so you will be better looking in 10 years yeah but not in 20 mhm did you say better better in 10 um no no oh you said better now yeah did you yes okay you said you said better in 10
01:52:40
Brian Atlasyears correct yes if I recall I think grudgingly I said no you conceded yeah okay so all the conditions I'm assuming you you would also in 20 years you will
01:52:51
Brian Atlasnot be more physically attractive than you are now better now better now but you did say you will be better uh no I said I was better now even for the
01:53:03
Brian Atlastenure yes I think I you did yeah are people just change am I no that's what I said no she she said like so she did oh you're right I you're right sorry there's a lot of
01:53:13
Brian Atlaspeople so you're 23 you said you will be better looking at 33 what about 43 no okay and she said older definitely not
01:53:24
Brian Atlasfor the higher age Mark there okay that was a doozy that was a doozy beating a dead horse oh man I it's hypotheticals in
01:53:35
Mason Gregoirethese questions are very hard so I guess kind of the kind of the thought behind asking this question in particular is if you are at your most attractive in your
01:53:44
Mason Gregoire20s that is your Highest Potential to find yourself a good mate so if you so for those who want to get married for those who want to eventually settle down with a man it is your best chance to
01:53:56
Mason Gregoirefind the most attractive guy one but also the most like uh the most attractive guy of personality wise as well so you're using the assets that God
01:54:06
Mason Gregoirehas given you at like ages 19 to 22 to secure yourself the best man possible I mean if we're speaking simply pragmatically now of course you you
01:54:17
Mason Gregoirecould probably uh I don't know for some some girls will get a really high quality man in their 30s but that's the exception rather than the rule why would I want a man who's going to find me unattractive in 10 years well no okay
01:54:31
TTS Donation ReaderI'm not saying he's going to find you unattractive I'm just saying killer of cereal donated $200 plastic surgery makes you look physically ill later in life it doesn't