Elon Musk WATCHES Whatever?! Andrew Wilson! HEATED DEBATE With Liberal Feminist?! | Dating Talk #140

Date: 2024-03-04

Duration: 6h 43m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMalia (DT140)>

MMalik (DT140)>

MMichaela (DT140)>

BBella (DT140)>

CCeleste (DT140)>

MMadison (DT182)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Malik(guest)

SPEAKER_03Esme(guest)

SPEAKER_04Celeste(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bella(guest)

SPEAKER_06Malia(guest)

SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_08Media/Clips(audience)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Celeste/Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_13Michaela(guest)

SPEAKER_14JoJo(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian Atlas opens show, noting Elon Musk replied to a Whatever clip tweet.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... we had a little love this weekend we had Ellen musk reply to a tweet that had our video in it”

QuoteBrian shows the clip that got Elon Musk's reply: JoJo saying 'I don't think you can be sexist towards men and I don't think you can be racist towards white people'.

“I don't think you can be sexist towards men and I don't think you can be racist towards white people... Elon Musk responded... somebody shared that it got 8 million views”

QuoteAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I am the host of The One and Only Crucible one of the fastest growing debate channels on the internet”

Key MomentMalia reveals she's been celibate for 1.5 years without specific reason, gets 20-30 Hinge likes/day but only accepts ~1.

“I've been celibate for a year and a half not for any particular reason... usually on hinge I'll wake up with like 20 or 30 [likes]... I only like match with one”

Key MomentRatings round begins: Brian asks everyone to self-rate looks on 1-10 scale.

“Stiffler is very curious to ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you going around the table”

QuoteAndrew Wilson sarcastically self-rates as a 10 on looks.

“I'm a 10 for sure explain why there you have it”

Key MomentBrian calls out JoJo's body count claim: she said body count doesn't matter but won't reveal it — implying it does matter.

“I think body count matters so I'm not going to reveal it for that reason... that question tends to be asked in response to women saying that they think body count doesn't matter... but then they have a quite a bit of hesitation when it comes to revealing their own body count”

Key MomentCeleste: story of 4-year on/off relationship with heroin addict begins. She met him at 21 when he claimed 2 years clean.

“you dated a heroin addict on and off for four years... there were more than five times on and off... he relapsed on four separate occasions I honestly couldn't tell you if it was four or more there were five I think maybe was five six”

Key MomentCeleste reveals she hid the heroin addict relationship from her family to protect his image in their eyes.

“they didn't for four years this was going on on and off where this guy was taking heroin and he never told your folks... no... I was not telling my parents to protect his image”

Key MomentJoJo argues women are oppressed in the US, citing Blizzard California lawsuit as example.

“a big one is the whole blizzard case with the lawsuit with California... the state of California sued blizzard because of the unequal treatment of women in the workplace... same exact jobs same exact positions and they were getting paid way less than the men”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson counters: Blizzard settled without admission of wrongdoing; filing a complaint doesn't prove guilt.

“you can't just put forward a complaint and say that because a complaint was made that that means that therefore complaint was true... they admitted no wrongdoing according to this settlement”

ControversyBrian reveals Google internal pay audit found they were overpaying women vs male counterparts, countering JoJo's pay gap argument.

“Google did a review an internal review and found that they were actually overpaying women uh compared to their male counterparts”

Key MomentJoJo cannot name a right that men have today that women do not. Brian presses this question.

“what right does a man have in this country that a woman does not today”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson argues selective service / male draft is the clearest example of male-specific oppression that feminists never advocate against.

“men can be pressed into selective service because nobody gives a about them... women can't... and yet they gripe on the opposite side about things that they consider to be oppressive to them when they will never have to make that ultimate sacrifice”

QuoteEsme leaves the show early before body count round concludes, thanks everyone.

“thank you for having me it was really nice to meet you guys... you weren't as scary as I thought you were going to be”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson uses gamble analogy to get Esme to concede that body count correlates with loyalty: 1 woman with 1 partner for 19 years vs 1 woman with 19 partners over 19 years — which would you gamble on for loyalty?

“if you had to gamble if you had to roll all of your dice on one which one would you say would be more likely to be more promiscuous... you're going to roll it on the person with the least body count which tells me that it matters”

QuoteEpisode wrap-up; Brian thanks Andrew Wilson and the panel.

“okay we're going to wrap up there guys long show long show... go subscribe to Andrew Wilson's The Crucible channel”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and Elon Musk tweet reaction

Brian introduces the show from Santa Barbara. Notes Elon Musk replied to a Whatever clip tweet (got 8M views). Also mentions Trace Cyrus (Metro Station) shared the channel. Andrew Wilson joins remotely.

Guest introductions and relationship status

All guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Go around table on relationship status and longest relationships. JoJo: single 2yr, 1 relationship 4yr. Esme: divorced. Malia: single 2.5yr, celibate 1.5yr. Malik: single 2.5yr. Michaela: in relationship 2.5yr. Bella: in relationship since Oct. Celeste: in relationship since Oct, longest was on/off 4yr. Madison: in relationship 1.5yr. Andrew Wilson: married 10+ years.

Dating apps and Malia's dating experience

Discussion of dating app experiences. Malia: gets 20-30 Hinge likes/day but only matches ~1; was banned from apps for not responding; had 1 date in 4 months; prefers nerdy/gamer types. JoJo: only relationship was long-distance. Brian probes Malia on why she doesn't pursue dates.

Hypergamy and women dating up

Andrew Wilson and Brian argue that women hypergamously seek men with more resources. JoJo and others debate whether this is a generational trend. Discussion on whether women's financial independence is changing the dynamic. Andrew cites that hypergamy seems to be increasing not decreasing.

Should women date up: Andrew Wilson scenario

Andrew Wilson presents scenario: 25-year-old man choosing between hot 21-year-old and established 27-year-old. Discussion on what men vs women prioritize in partner selection. Brian cites statistics on men preferring beauty and motherly qualities; women preferring security and resources.

Dating patterns and relationship timelines

JoJo discusses her long-distance relationship. Esme discusses her marriage at 18, divorce at 28, and post-separation hookup culture experience. Discussion of modern dating apps and communication.

Partner preferences: looks, dating apps, nerdy guys

Brian asks each guest what they're looking for. Malia: nerdy/gamer guys, engineers, anime nerds. Brian notes Malia gets many matches but rarely accepts. Discussion of dating app rejection asymmetry between men and women (Hinge: 20-30 likes/day vs 1 match accepted).

Ratings round: self-rate looks 1-10

Brian asks guests to rate their looks. Malia: 6. Malik: 7. Andrew Wilson: sarcastically 10. JoJo: implied ~7 range. Celeste: ~7. Bella: 6.

Celeste: dating a heroin addict for 4 years

Brian addresses notes on Celeste's on/off 4-year relationship with a heroin addict. He relapsed 5-6 times; each relapse ended the 'on' phase. She never ended it — always his ghosting. Met when she was 21, he was 24 and claimed 2 years clean. She stayed because she saw more than the addiction. Hid relationship from family to protect his image. Others discuss rescuer/fixer mentality.

Feminism definition debate

Brian and Andrew argue feminism is female supremacy, not equality. Malik argues feminism is about equality; Brian says that's egalitarianism. Andrew distinguishes classic liberalism from feminism. Quick round: JoJo identifies as feminist (equity-based); others mostly do not. Malik says he is egalitarian.

Are women oppressed in the US: JoJo vs Andrew Wilson

JoJo argues women are oppressed, cites Blizzard California lawsuit (equal pay). Andrew and Brian challenge this: complaint not proof of guilt; settlement without admission of wrongdoing. Brian cites Google internal review found they were overpaying women. Debate on whether inequity = oppression. JoJo cannot name a right men have that women don't (in contemporary US).

Traditional vs feminist panel self-identification

Quick round: do you identify as feminist? JoJo: yes (equity definition). Others: no. Malik: egalitarian. Andrew declares if guests don't identify as feminist, they can be assessed by whether they're traditional.

Women in corporate settings and workplace oppression

JoJo brings Blizzard case again. Brian introduces Google's internal audit finding women were overpaid. Andrew and Brian challenge whether corporate incidents prove systemic oppression. 1970s sex work policing example from JoJo about prostitutes vs pimps.

WWII civilian death casualty statistics video

Brian or Andrew plays WWII casualty documentary video. Andrew argues men were primary victims even counting civilians, due to massacres targeting men. JoJo pushes back. Debate on whether military casualties vs civilian casualties shift the picture.

Selective Service and men's draft: is it oppression

Extended debate: Brian and Andrew argue men being subject to selective service while women are exempt is a form of male oppression. JoJo disputes this framing. Andrew: men can be pressed into service because society does not value them. Malik raises conscription as a counterpoint.

Esme departure and final discussion

Esme thanks the panel and leaves early (~6:10) before body count discussion concludes (3-hour drive home). Andrew compliments her articulation. Remaining panel continues discussion on body count, promiscuity, and relationship fitness.

Promiscuity, body count, and pair bonding

Going around the table on whether body count matters. Results: Celeste/Madison: 8 and 7. Bella/others: 5-6 range. JoJo: declined specific number, range above 30. Esme: doesn't care personally about body count. Andrew uses gamble analogy to get Esme to concede body count correlates with loyalty. Esme concedes gamble point but maintains she would not choose partner by body count alone.

Wrap-up and outro

Brian closes the show. Thanks Andrew Wilson and the panel. Plugs The Crucible channel. Madison reads TTS. Brian raids a WoW streamer on Twitch.

Transcript

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Michaelanow no no um I guess the there was one uh episode that you guys did of it was like a girl who I think it was like um she said they were like pay pigs or

Michaelasomething and then she would just get paid to ask for money for them and then you set a statement of Life on easy and I was just curious if that if you still

Brian Atlashave that perspective towards like exotic dancers and stuff like that oh actually I see in your notes here so you wrote The Life on easy mode topic pertaining to wait is this this is

Brian Atlasdirected at me correct yeah okay I agree you said that you agree that it is easy to just go on Tinder and get a sugar daddy but I'm curious on your stance on only fans and exotic dancers do you consider still consider that easy mode

Brian Atlasso I mean I've made two statements on this um I've I've said that a lot of women have life on easy mode and I've also said that women have dating on easy mode so I can certainly start on the

Brian Atlasdating on easy mode is that did you object to that one too dating on easy mode you agree that women have dating on easy mode I believe so does anybody disagree with that I bet she does but she got up to the

Brian Atlasbathroom so you guys have dating on easy mode you can seeed yeah yeah just going to let me bulldoze over you you're just going to concede that women have dating on easy modl depends person no sometimes

EsmeI feel like people will just like you know Brian I will disagree I will disagree okay no but don't now don't let me bulldoze you got clown makeup on dating is not an easy mode for you girl I do think that it it depends on the

Brian Atlasperson that you're talking to what do you mean it depends any woman any woman even she any woman can be a let's start there yeah any woman can be a not every guy I tend to frame it

Brian Atlaslike not every guy can be a stud but let's just say not every guy can be a very few men can be a in fact yeah yeah so you can at least get to the point of while meeting the person having sex with them that's getting a lot

Esmefurther along in the dating process than a lot of men can even get if you consider that to be important in the dating ASP well it's like your foot in the

Esmedoor okay so if you're if you don't partake in hookup culture for example for me you have the capacity to is the difference I feel like everyone has the capacity to do do women have more

Brian Atlaspotential to do so yes no but here's my position so the vast majority of men don't even have the capacity to participate in hookup culture but that's

Malikonly because they are picky if they absolutely want to be there are women you Cal bottom of the barrel whatever that they could be hooking up with they just choose not to but for the sake of argument if women date up

Brian Atlasthey're not going for those men yeah I would argue that women who are say average looking can be and they could exclusively choose men that are more attractive than they

Brian Atlasare yes I agree I agree with that so you're saying so again I mean it even even if I were to concede that while men can be so long as they date like

Brian Atlasthree four five points below them in looks and even then I would argue still not really but yeah um yeah women still have the capacity to like procure sex

Malikfrom men who are way more attractive than they are I I agree with that completely I think women have it on easy mode when it comes to hookups or maybe likes on a dating app or WR swipes whatever you want to call it but as far as actually finding a long-term

Malikrelationship I think it's equally hard for men disagree totally disagree why no because I think a lot of men just want to hook up with women and they're not interested in long-term commitment okay let me ask you guys a question do you

Malikguys currently have any guys in the friend zone do you have any guys in the friend zone would you be prepared to be in a relationship with you uh well most of my friendzone guys are in

Andrew Wilsonrelationships what like what about friends own them prior to the relationship yeah but okay so and they're now in relationships could at the time but Malik he's asking if

Andrew Wilsonthere's any men you know of who have a romantic interest in you that you do not reciprocate who are your friends yes okay so most men don't just have a

Brian Atlashandful or even dozens of men in the pocket that oh hm Becky I okay I could be in a relationship with most men never have women in the pocket like that whereas most women will have at least

Michaelaone dude who they could get into a relationship with at any given time cuz usually those women have moved on too like if they're in your back pocket usually when you come back to them

Malikthey've probably moved on well I think the reason for that is men typically to the argument of men and women can't be friends I think women are more than capable of being friends with

Malikmen with no romantic interest but I don't think men are really capable of being friends with women uh that they don't find attractive or see a benefit in the friendship in the future so that's why a lot of men will have a lot

Malikof wom friends and maybe sometimes they do end up in the friend zone but women generally will be friends with multiple people regardless of if they see romantic potential I

Malikagree okay yeah and and that's why men don't have a backpocket of friend-zoned woman because they're not even going to be talking to a woman in the first place

Brian Atlasif they don't see a romantic don't really pursue men to the same degree to the same degreee you think you think women hitting on men disagree M that

Andrew Wilsonridiculous men are the ones out there pursuing the women for the most part come on do you really disagree do you think that hold on no do you think that

Brian Atlaswomen are approaching men and dming men at the same uh frequency that men okay Checkmate that's

Maliknot ridiculous Mal ridiculous a you said women half clown makeup women do pursue men not at the rate that men pursue women though tilt

Maliktilt your mic down a little bit right but okay are they pursuing them for like sexual advances or like for relationships both men and women pursue each other men just pursue women at a significantly higher rate well I'm I'm

Maliktalking about that initial initiative any guy that I've talked with uh ever it's let I've been the one to initiate it okay yeah but but you're the

Andrew Wilsonexception and you know that like you know you know that you're in the twitch okay you're in the twitch space I know you're in the twitch space you know how this sh Works

TTS/Donations$1100 I wouldn't be able to keep my stable of side chicks if it wasn't for women like this cosigning the lies that I tell them you are helping us High net worth men pump and dump these girls on

Andrew Wilsonbirth control well dang damn roasted okay uh Andrew you were making a point about twitch yeah I was saying I saying like Malik knows she knows for sure that

Andrew Wilsonit's men are overwhelmingly pursuing these women I mean yes she's in all these Discord spaces she talks she knows like you know this is true that that's the case right I didn't say I did not

Maliksay it wasn't he said that women do not pursue men generally speaking generally I of course there are women who will shoot the shot in fact I generally

Malikimplies that there's a way low like that lower huh I generally implies that there's a very like only the outlier women pursue men yeah it's super low

Brian Atlasit's super low I don't see that nowadays here here's an example here's an example if I let's say for a hundred nights in a row I go to a bar and I just sit at the

Brian Atlasbar alone there might be a really good chance that I never get approached by a woman aund for those hundred nights 100 nights

Brian Atlasokay a woman okay maybe I should frame it like who's more likely but a woman goes to a bar sits alone who do you think's going to more likely to get approached I'm going to

Maliksay that that depends entirely on that's the most ever it doesn't depend on anything I get the pass if you hold on if if you if you have an attractive

Malikguy if you have an attractive guy go to a bar that guy is way more likely to get approached by woman than an average woman really I would argue even a 10 a

Malik10 out of 10 dude is not going to get approached as much as like a averagely attractive woman Brian I don't know why we're arguing we both agreed that men are way more likely to approach women

EsmeI'm just saying women also approach men it's super rare I'll say maybe 15% okay going around the table uh have you guys ever approached a man in in public yes God oh these are agreeable women but

Esmelike honestly nowadays who's going to be meeting people question everyone meets each other on the internet let me ask a different question I have you been approached more by men than you have

Brian Atlasapproached men throughout your entire life Checkmate no it's not Checkmate because we already agreed on that I think here Malik you're going to pretend to be a man and you're going to pick up

Esmeour good friend here go ahead you're in a Trader Joe's go ahead Trad Joe no this is quick you got to be quick you just sorry this has got to be quick

Malikknow the cloud makeup yeah go go go hi can I ask your name I really like your dress thanks why is he wearing a dress nice to meet you Madison my name is mik nice to meet you are you from the area

Unknownyeah I go to school here oh that's cool what you studying business that's cool do you enjoy the program uh it's not my favorite I'm thinking of leaving thinking of leaving do you know what you would do if you

Brian Atlasleft no um do you like to have fun in the area and go out a lot I don't really like to go out I don't either do you play video games what the is going on wait hold on keep going keep going keep going keep going okay that was not

Unknownbad that was good keep going keep going keep going you going to close I don't like to play what do you like to do for fun then if you don't like going out um I just like to sit at home and watch movies would you want to watch a movie

TTS/Donationswith me sometime the Earl optimiz donated $100 Brian kick JoJo off the show she does not have the intellectual capability to answer Andrew's clear

Brian Atlasquestions walking red flag put some clown paint on her too and send her to the streets wait so JoJo you have to put that on for the next five minutes okay

Brian AtlasI'm getting PTSD from JoJo circus you heard JoJo circus is PSD right now there you go I think next time I send somebody to the corner and time out they have to wear that so your head's too big stop

Celeste/Madisondon't talking about I think you have to adjust you got to adjust the little thing in the back wait continue on with the the roleplay go ahead wait she asked if I wanted to watch a movie with her and I said no but it's also just hard to I was like short I make a conversation

Celeste/Madisonwhen you're not actually attracted to the person cuz if I really was attracted to you it would go elsewhere so if if I was a hot guy and we had the same exact conversation I said the same stuff how

Brian Atlaswould have it ended up probably in yes but that what if she's an average what if she's an average girl though and it's not a hot guy it's also an average guy approaching her okay she probably still

Maliksay she'd probably say no people gen don't approach people that they're not attracted to the whole point of approaching someone is you're attracted to them no but if you're an average dude you're going to shoot your shot with average looking chicks

Malikyeah sometimes of chicks will still say no a lot of guys are intimidated by women that are on their level or more attractive so a lot of guys talk to women below them and they still get

Malikrejected by women who are arguably less attractive because women get approached significantly more as we've both agreed on so it women are often annoyed by get

Celeste/Madisondating on easy mode Checkmate I said it is we didn't disagree oh okay cool I good talk good talk the guy doesn't even have to be hot though woman just feel

Brian Atlasthat validation no matter what and like hold that your name wait so okay you're and then there was life on easy mode yes okay yeah I mean so we've had women who come on the show who will just not even

Michaelameet up with a dude and dudes will just send them thousands of dollars so that that I disagree with it was more of like I guess only fans in a sense or exotic dancers of

Malikorely if I may I think she's asking the difference where you've said o or being in online horror is easy mode do you consider exotic dancing easy mode because there's a lot of physical strength and a lot more work that goes

Brian Atlasinto that than just posting selfies of yourself naked online well I think it's I mean the amount if you can if you can procure for example a sugar daddy from the strip club and that sugar sugar

Brian Atlasdaddy is in turn paying for your bills and your groceries without any sort of romantic or sexual reciprocation I would argue that that's life on easy mode but I mean it's harder to scale like when you're on o you can scale the amount of

Celeste/Madisonmoney you can make whereas in a strip club it's kind of limited a little bit uh Maddie can you read this one really quick only action I and bars this gay gu shoving their thumb up my beep sometimes that's the highlight of my week at least

Celeste/MadisonI was hot enough for a guy would that make your week ladies now up my make my year I don't think he's actually shoving the thumb up the okay thank you Nickelodeon appreciate it also think

Celeste/Madisonthough like back to our other conversation if it wasn't easy doing that do you think a lot of girls would do that job I agree that I think it's easy to

Michaelaobtain but maybe not maintain cuz like I mean going into like that field or that environment when as you say that you kind of alienate yourself from almost everyone else I feel like a

Michaelalot of other people wouldn't really agree with your career choice or um how you spend your time because obviously that's your job so would it be but that

Michaelalike not as in it's easy or I'm sorry not that it's harder than someone going to school and getting a job but what did you say that's hard too and I kind of want to say something about your point

Bellabecause like you know being in a city like Vegas and I do know I would say quite a few people that work in especially exotic dancing industry um there's a lot of guys that do come in

Bellalike you said that are kind of that sugar daddy material that'll try to be like oh I'll I'll give you such and such amount of money and I'll take you out of the club y y whatever um and I've noticed a lot of those girls don't necessarily have it easy because a lot

Bellaof the times they kind of get coed into becoming some sort of sugar baby whatever but it's never enough for what they're looking for like to actually get out of the club so based off of like

Bellafriends that I know from what they make in the club there's sugar daddies that'll go in there and say oh I'll give you this amount of money and I'll make these promises but they're really not keeping up with that so the amount of money they're making in the club doesn't

Andrew Wilsonit it makes more than what some dude would come in the club and offer but can I can I ask you something since you have friends who've worked in that environment I know quite a few people

Andrew Wilsonwho have worked uh as Security in those places or have managed them or various people I've talked to from all over the country and they claim that most of these strip clubs are Rife with

Andrew Wilsonprostitution that uh probably most of the strippers engage in different in various forms of prostitution and get paid extremely handsomely for that wouldn't you agree that that's true it

Bellais to a certain extent so in the city and Clark County and well Las Vegas in general it's actually a legal prostitution is illegal um but if you go that's because it's regulated right yeah

Bellaso but you can go to NY County which is only about a 4 40-minute drive which is prump essentially um and it's legal but they kind of separate those so you do have like Bunny Ranch for example is in

TTS/Donationsprump um that's a brothel it's not necessarily exotic dancing it's oh go ahead the ear optimiz donated $100 women have dating on easy mode

TTS/Donationslet's be real here though women control access to sex but men control access to relationships and marriage only simps marry

Malia304s the rest star cat ladies can I can I say something I think that it's easy mode because you have the choice to do that if you have a man who's like doesn't know what to do for money he can't just go on only fans and make a

Malialot of money it's a choice that you made that men don't have that choice that's why it's easy mode is it hard yeah but it's your choice well even I mean even removing only fans and stripping from the thing

Brian Atlaswe've had even just normal college girls come on the show and they're like oh yeah I'm getting offers to like dudes will just DM them oh I'm getting offers to be flown out

Brian Atlasthey're sending feet picks for 300 bucks they they can go on seeking and find some sort of arrangement there so whereas that there's no corresponding

Brian Atlaslike basically just getting almost free money from women there's no corresponding thing for men like have you have any of you what maybe certainly you didn't accept it have any of you

Brian Atlasreceived offers from men to money for pictures even non-non pictures show me your feet do some stupid activity degrade me look these dudes are I don't know why these men do it and if

Malikyou're watching the are you guys doing what the did you say received money or received offers offers either both I I receive offers almost on a daily basis I've never received money

Brian Atlasfrom I've never received any anything from a woman no and I'm out there in the public for a decade even just no women are like oh Brian uh can you call me a 304 send a voice

Malikmemo I'll give you a hundred bucks they ain't doing it I I believe actually when when Andrew and I first met I blame men though I blame the men for this one one

Malikpoint I debated was that um no matter how old you are no matter how attractive you are as a woman you always have the backup plan of finding a man who's going

Malikto be able to take care of you and never working a day in your life but as a man you do not have that option unless in very rare scenarios you meet a sugar mama who's going to take care of you but

Brian Atlas99% of the time any woman can find a man to fully sustain them if they choose not to work question going around the table have you received an offer to be like a

Brian Atlassugar baby or to be paid just a guy to send you money to I don't know not yeah let's just do sugar du sugar baby have you had like a sugar daddy sugar baby offer I haven't I have had

Esmethe offers yes thoughts how many do you think in like just total your whole life oh my gosh uh over 100 yeah probably yes

Michaelaover yeah in general yeah what about you yeah over 100 yeah over 100 probably like two two okay that's still you know yeah like a handful handful same thing

Celeste/Madisonhandful into the mic if you can uh same thing handful Madison a lot now but even like even when I was in like high school like I would still get offers like that it's like

Brian Atlasyikes uh yeah I would say that uh I've had zero zero offers and most men most most

Malikmen ain't getting uh I agree and not even one their whole life and if it is if if it is men offering that it's usually gay men offering to take care of men it's almost never the woman it's

Bellastill a man offering the money yeah I exactly I will say though I feel like it also is dependent on like location and like the situation because I I I know a couple of guys who have been approached

Bellaby older wealthy women in my area and they're like hey I think you're really you know just a cute little stud why don't you let me take you out and we'll

Andrew Wilsonfigure something out and it's usually not never equated to what sure but again this is the exception proving the rule yeah right so you're pointing to the exception and the re the reason that

Brian Atlasit's an exception is because there is a rule yeah so the exception proves the rule here I don't and I'm not saying it doesn't happen like I've heard of it happening I believe you that there's

Brian Atlasguys but it's so rare and I would also argue that the women that are doing that probably aren't going to be nearly as generous they almost might even do it

Brian Atlasbegrudgingly like there's probably something back there where it's like not at the sort of willing level that men are going to be doing it as and like I

Malikit it's different it's got to be different somehow you may disagree with me but from what I've seen in the very few instances where I know younger men who have gone to who are sugar babies to

Maliksugar mamas it's usually older women mils whatever you want to call them who have a lot of money are single kind of desperate so they're like I'll just offer to pay a hot guy because I'm never going to get that any other way to a certain extent I mean from like the

Bellapeople that I know that have been in those scenarios it's usually some hotter yeah hotter divorced mil I'll say and she's just kind of like the it's that get back so yeah I will say there's always that like hidden agenda in the

Bellabackground so I do agree with you on that but um it's usually that hotter mil that's like you know what screw my ex-husband I'm going to go grab me a stud and I'm just going to walk around with my little arm candy and I'll I'll

Bellapay his bills for the next however long but they usually don't last it's like a temporary thing in most cases as well from what I've seen yeah I I've had a couple that have lasted like there there

Bellawas a guy you from high school that ended up getting with as crazy as it sounds somebody's in our school's mom but uh it lasted for a good while

Bellafrom what we all saw and we all lasted past tense yes the only reason it ended was because she what we had heard was she was just getting put in a rut

Brian Atlasbecause of getting laid off because the co so that was like why it ended but let's uh we have something that we're going to react to here that's maybe a

Brian Atlaslittle bit related to Andrew and you're back and forth on our last show uh Nick can you pull up the uh I think it the first thing is the news article there's

Brian Atlastwo of them o all right so we have Jane Fonda you're going to have to move us to the uh Jane Fonda claimed

Brian Atlasshe's only interested in young lovers because she doesn't like old skin 85-year-old also revealed she has okay that doesn't

Brian Atlasnext and then this is from the New York Post why ashamed Jane fond to 85 with only data 20-year-old Lover now we have the clip Nick if you can uh pull up the the next

Brian Atlasone and then full screen all right oh wait Nick there's something up there in the corner X out of that okay go ahead you have to click block sometimes that's fine I'm ashamed

Unknownto say this but if I were to take a lover he'd have to be 20 really yeah wait she ashamed to say start start from the beginning video tab please excuse

Unknownme I'm ashamed to say this but if I were to take a lover he'd have to be 20 really oh yeah now why specifically because I don't like old skin

Brian AtlasI don't I'm right there with you I'm doing everything I can to keep it fresh but yeah old skin that's it so going around the table

Brian Atlason this she 85y old woman she says she's only down to date 20 year olds adult men right uh any objection do you guys

JoJoobject any objections that's crazy um object I think your reaction OB think that's weird that she seeks that

JoJoout that she's like that that's the go ahead yeah that's the only like men that she is finds acceptable like she doesn't like old skin 20 isn't like

Esmethat's way young like there's lot of Ages you can get I think it's kind of weird but in my brain it doesn't seem as wrong but then I think about it and I put her if if it was like a man saying

Esmeit I'd be like way more taken back I don't know why you said it doesn't it doesn't seem as wrong as what as like for example since she's a woman she's saying it and she's saying that she'd

Esmeonly take like a 20-year-old because of their youthful skin or whatever in my brain I don't know why in my brain it's like okay you know work it or whatever

Esmebut then I in my brain put a man saying that and it was just like ew I don't know why there's that so it's not as bad as if it was a man saying I think I

Brian Atlasthink it is equally as bad but in my brain I don't I don't know why I don't like well when you inter ual it perhaps you can like think about it and then

Brian Atlasit's as bad but your initial like kneejerk reaction is not as bad as if it was the reverse yeah yeah see it's you go girl right you go girl right yeah

Maliawhat what about you go ahead um I think that it's totally okay to have preferences it's not really something that I could see myself being into but it's it's legal and it's a

Malikpreference go ahead okay so I want to start by saying referencing my previous debate with Andrew um according to his logic there's nothing wrong with that that's fine it's legal let them be happy

Malikdo whatever makes them happy um but I personally uh well the only reason a 20-year-old would get with an 85-year-old regardless of who's which gender is older or not is for money like

Malikthey're get married they're going to die get their inheritance whatever maybe but um I personally think it's weird as if an 85-year-old woman or man only

Malikwants to date 20-year-olds because of tight skin and I mean God yes I find that extremely icky morally I guess there's nothing wrong with it it's if

Malikit's legal but I do not think in any scenario any person what is that more than four times someone's age should be wanting to have sexual relations with someone I think your math checks out

Michaelathere that's good all right we'll come back to that what about you um I kind of agree with uh Esme of like um it would definitely be a lot I feel like I would cringe if it was a guy saying it with a

Michaelayounger girl but it's it's definitely it's still weird it's a 60-year like all for dating up which no matter what the gender but it's definitely a weird Gap if you don't think about it's like I

Bellathink I think it's kind of like up to preference which I'm sure you know few of you have said but personally I feel like it's just robbing the cradle

Bellaand I think it's kind of gross and icky like it just that word I hate that word so much it it it just it

Bellaseems like just nasty there's no reason to it and yeah it's legal but it's what's the point you're kind of just taking away from somebody's life for

Bellayour own personal gain your own personal you know lust so that's my opinion on that okay uh what about you uh I think

Celestethat the age differ difference like the age Gap is pretty extreme do you want me to repeat myself no you're good go okay yeah I think it's pretty extreme uh that's like your grandparents age when

Celeste/Madisonyou're 20 if not even my grand she belong oh sorry sorry okay accidental click um what about you I don't oppose to age Gap relationships

Celeste/Madisonso I mean I preferably would not myself but I have no opposition to anyone who prefers to be in a agap relationship can I press you on that a little bit

Maliksure so you're 19 years old yes so if there were 85-year-old men saying they only wanted to have sexual relations with people in your age group

Celeste/Madisonhow would you view those men would you view them as weird this 85-year-old woman only wanting a 20-year-old man it's just preference what if a woman is like I only want a data provider that's preference it's a preference like like I

Maliksaid in I don't think it makes a difference if it's a man or woman honestly past 70 you're your brain is is like that of a a younger person anyway oh so it's like a full circle kind of

Brian Atlaslike no no no no no I didn't say it's still weird as to date someone a quarter your age cuz I think previously you I don't know if you were making this argument on this I don't know if you were making this argument but you're

Brian Atlassaying something along the lines of well the the the prefrontal cortex is not fully developed until you're 25 but like couldn't you then make the argument well does it equal out

Brian Atlasdoes it equal out if they have Alzheimer's like if they're dating somebody with alzheimer's is it now a little more like equal playing field you know you know what I'm I'm going to I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to say sure sure okay so it's like no go between like 30 to like 70 but after 70 there's probably enough mental decline where it's like it's probably

Brian AtlasFair hon honestly you're going to call me dumb for this but I think the 20-year-olds would actually be in the wrong trying to take advantage say that's a thing you'll have these young

Brian Atlaswomen who will like go after these people who are like incompetent basically they'll actually try to like it's actually I think a crime it's like elder abuse and they'll try to like

Maliksiphon money basically so czy so I'll say and I'm just throwing random numbers out okay but I'll say between 40 and 69 if you're looking for younger women

Malikyou're a bit weird but if you're 70 plus and you're hooking up with with younger women like you're scile the younger women or younger men are the ones in the wrong because they taking advantage of older women can I make a point they

Maliacould be of course go ahead thank um your point is also really silly to be like oh the prefrontal cortex isn't developed till 25 it also starts going back at 40 so they're equal they're

Malikequal oh but I I use that in addition to life experience I said that um I think maybe the minimum age of consent should be raised after certain age GS like I don't think someone fresh out of high

Malikschool who's 18 who has no life experience whatsoever whose brain is not fully developed um should be in a relationship with 40 50 year olds yeah so let me ask a a question if you don't

Andrew Wilsonmind for all the women on the panel if you don't mind raising your hands for this question how many of you can say with confidence that this scenario gives you the ick just raise your hands if it

Malikgives you the ick okay we got basically everybody it doesn't give you the ick I mean that's your whole thing yeah I thought that was it does but it's not that bad it's it's

Andrew Wilsonit would be so much worse with J with Hanoi Jane here in a 20-year-old does it give you the does it give you the ick I'll say sure that was all of you raised your hands basically right okay

Bellathere we go all of you raise your hands we have to look at I'll take doesn't give you the it but we also have to look at what the situation was it wasn't about dating it was about lovers so hang on hang on I got a second

Andrew Wilsonquestion right for all of you who did raise your hands right even though it gives you the ick do any of you have a moral objection to it raise your hand if

Andrew Wilsonyou have that my my ick was not about the age you have a moral objection to it no no no not you um sorry gal in the black shirt you have a moral objection I

Bellado I just feel like it's it's like cuz in this sit in this scenario it's not about dating it's about like it's about lust it's about

Bellaabout sex so it's not I I just feel like in that sense you're like I said you're robbing the cradle you're you're you how do you know it's about lust though if they get married and they fall in love

Andrew Wilsonbut she's not talking about married she's talking about a lover yeah yeah well I mean in that case I'll concede that moral argument right if you just could a love her but but I would concede that regardless of the age and I'll

Andrew Wilsonagree with you in the sense of so then so then in the sense of just age itself do you have any moral argument against in that no well my sister's dated or

Bellashe's 32 and she's married to a 69-year-old so oh yeah so but no moral objection yeah so in that case I I have no moral objection to that because they're married and they have a baby

Bellatogether and they're they're happy and they're in love but in the sense of it's coming for just sex just lust I do have a moral objection to that yeah yeah I do too I so I'll concede to that point any

Andrew Wilsonof you any of the rest of you who raised your hands do you have a single moral objection to this an actual moral objection I don't know if this is moral and I'm not saying her specifically

Malikbut like I said the only case where I would see it wrong is if the person is scile and cannot capably make mental decisions for themselves and younger people are taking advantage especially

Andrew Wilsonknowing they have money um yeah but that makes no sense because 20year old dating donated

TTS/Donations$100 my wife is 11 years is younger than I am we started dating when she was 23 I strongly urge young men don't marry until 30 plus and established and to

Andrew Wilsondate in the mid late 20s range for success and happy life good for you gri I agree anyway back to that Malik um it it would be the same regardless of the age Gap in that situation anybody dating

Malikanybody else who was you would have a moral objection with right Andrew I do not give a how old someone is if they're having sex I'm against casual sex and hookup culture in general so I don't give a how old they are as

Maliklong as they're legal age our argument last time which we're piggy backing off of was the fact that older men specifically only want to marry and be in relationships with women Fresh Out

Andrew Wilsonhigh school but we don't need to get into that that yet or did you ever figure out a moral argument for that or no are we still not there we we can move on from that we can move on from that

Malikokay okay fair enough no I I did but I I don't want to I know last time we argued about that for almost 2 hours so I don't want to reopen that c all right all right fair enough wait do you have that

Unknownsame position in this scenario like no because this is about casual sex I said if anything the 85-year-old is the victim okay okay but I think I think this I don't think it matters you said I

Malikthought you said this one was less icky for some reason it is because they're scile and they're just looking for sex because they're about to die within the next I don't know how many years and that's really up to say but it's

Maliktrue they're living not her specifically but 85 year-olds are living out the last years in their life if their last wishes before they die are to hook up with younger people let them live their life and what if the 40-year-old doesn't know

Malikwhen he's going to die and he wants to have sex with a 20-year-old then he can do it okay so I I just I I don't think 40e oldold should obsess for specifically woman fresh out of high school that that was my argument last

Andrew Wilsontime come on Malik you wouldn't give the poor guy a single Hail Mary you know or like it's the end of his life it's what he wants want more than anything else you wouldn't just cut him a there's plenty of Poes who would I'm not one of

Malikthem though no you wouldn't give them any slack at all no no I would date up to 10 years older than me but I'm I'm

Andrew Wilsonalso almost 25 like I'm not a child fresh out of high school mhm no I I get it I mean I I agree with you broadly that we agree on a lot Andrew you just

Andrew Wilsonlike AR promiscuous sex is bad I'm just saying you know at 85 years old if a dude who has tons of cash is like oh I want to do you can at least understand

Malikit right if Hano Jane can say it I'll I'll hand him off to to someone I know I I'll meet someone I I'll I'll wingman for him okay if an 85-year-old man is dying wishes to have sex with a younger

Andrew Wilsonwoman I will wingman for him but that will never be me well no I didn't say you had to do it what the hell Malik it didn't say you

Malikspecifically had just say at least understand guy might want to at 85 right yes I did I I just brought up that point you're just rephrasing my point and trying to use it against me yeah so

Celeste/Madisonconcede it since it's your point okay sure sure I want to know what everyone's age ranges like how far they would date up that's a good

JoJoquestion we'll start with you uh I it just depends on what like ah everyone's going to hate this answer

Malikjust give a straight answer person depends on what's in here what's the youngest what's the oldest on the heart I guess the oldest would probably be like

Celeste/Madison40s wow but what about what's in their heart 20ish years older than you yeah 15

JoJoto 20 would you date younger yeah uh not how mucher like 21 probably the youngest would you date someone your mom's age see that's why I said like 40s range so

JoJothey have to be younger than your mom and they're good uh I I think I I I think anyone of that age would freak my parents out if they were around their

Esmeage like if I dated them so okay I say seven years seven years now band down up no not down I don't think I would be I don't think I'd be willing to date somebody younger than

Maliame like 22 to 42 whatever you wouldn't date down no I'm 27 so 22 they just got to be able to like illegal

Malikdrinking age yeah would be fun yeah so I was born in 99 so my age range is the '90s so minimum one year younger and

Malikmaximum like 9 10 years older I guess the most I'd push it is maybe like 12 13 years but I don't want to date someone who's in their mid-30s or later so like 32 33 would be the most i''s say like

Bellawithin I wouldn't date younger than me but probably like up to 10 years older than me me yeah I'd say about 27 to 30 range and then I don't

Belladate younger than me just cuz I feel like it's too close to 18 makes me feel creepy so I'm like 21 and up for sure and then my cutof is like I'd say

Celeste30 I think my Max would probably be uh older like eight years older and as far as younger maybe like Max 3

Celeste/Madisonyears younger than I I don't think I would date younger I think I like older men cuz they're little more mature I mean yeah but just like yeah yeah like

Malikeven if I was older I don't think I would dat younger either yeah but it's just because women mature and are ready to sell down at a much younger age than men especially with like fertility and

Malikstuff women want to by Nature be having children between like 18 and 28 and men don't usually want to sell down until they're in their 30s and having established

Malikcareer wait what we're talking about like we're talking about AGS men generally prefer to settle down when they're older past 25 when by Nature

Brian Atlasideally women are most fertile when they're younger than 25 I'm super around that age I do want to say like so just on the age Gap thing before you criticize older men for

Brian Atlasliking younger women remember that younger women like older men I didn't criticize it true and also what ends up H you got like okay so 23y old man let's

Brian Atlassay he can't get a 23y old woman but when he turns 33 maybe he can so is it the could it also be the case that women start this cycle by

Malikrejecting men their own age when they're in their 20s oh 100% all of us just said we're almost entire panel stated you keep agreeing with me and then saying

Brian AtlasCheckmate it's not Checkmate if we agreed from the beginning well okay how about this would it is it weird is does it give you the ick if a I hate that word but go ahead okay so I'm 34 would it give you let's let's

Brian Atlasmake this personal I'm 34 would it give you the ick if I was dating a 19-year-old I I would I think that's yes

Malikbut I would only no I would say no but if you specifically were going into environments that you knew only 18 to 20 year olds were and specifically looking

Malikfor someone of that age range I would find that to be PR she reached out to me I think that's F and I said this last time to you I think it's fine if people naturally meet if they're both of consensual age and they naturally meet

Malikthat's fine but older men who specifically Target which is a small percentage but older men who specifically Target and prey on younger women I think that's I don't know about this whole

Andrew Wilsonpre it's pretty loaded M it's very loaded it is load very load in the same way that you say well these high school guy with arthritis was um was a

Andrew Wilsonpredator because he had arthritis on this very I'm not kidding she really said that Malik what's a predator here a predator is someone who prays on the

Malikmore innocent the more naive the more unintelligent what does it mean to pray so if he justun pull the definition pull up the definition of pray if you

Andrew Wilsondon't know Brian hang on if he just runs in to a woman who is more naive and less intelligent and this and that and they hit it off and they get married you don't give a great let's some live

MalikH forever yes I I don't give a yeah okay so then what would make it predatory exactly it does it's not predatory at all it's if they naturally meet but if someone is going into

Andrew Wilsonenvironments I personally have known people who uh back when I was Inge hang on hang on let's back up it's not predatory for any of the values that you consider that this guy is looking for

Andrew Wilsonwhich makes him a predator to not be predatory as long as he finds them randomly no are you serious Malik Andrew you we both don't differ that much on

Andrew Wilsonopinions you're trying to word this in a way deliberately well that's because you're deliberately using the word predatory you got a problem with the word predatory need this fleshed out Andrew

Malikyou love examples let me give you an example there is someone who is in your age range okay not targeting you specifically but one of your friends right and he is interested in finding a

Maliklong-term partner and when he goes on dating apps he sets his age range to maximum 20 years old on a dating app or he goes to college parties or

Andrew Wilsonenvironments where there's only younger girls would you not find that behavior odd predatory though yes I find that predatory as well oh yeah yeah so can we get back to the idea of predatory even

Andrew Wilsonif I found it odd you pull up the what would make it what would make it predatory I want to know what it makes it predatory that's my problem here wh why don't you want to pull up

Andrew Wilsonthe definition of predatory or prey I mean I can I don't think it's going to help you much I think they're just hung up on actual you want to just pull it up because I I don't think think she's

Andrew Wilsontrying to use a loaded word like that out to be I'm using the word correctly it seems that both may not know the definition would you consider will you consider men

Andrew Wilsonright shos who prow the streets at night looking for women to SAA they would be predatory wouldn't they yes yes okay so

Andrew Wilsonthat's why I have a problem with the you using that word for this because I think you're trying to equate what we think of when we think of the word predatory as dangerous human being who's a predator

Andrew Wilsonwho's doing horrible things to this guy who you can't actually make an argument for why they're doing something wrong so you use the word predator in order to make them look bad or give a moral

Malikimplication that's why I have a problem I'm not calling them future sex offenders that's King ran please pull up the definition of prey pray you use the word though so shouldn't you know what

Brian Atlasthe the definition and I know I'm using the word correctly I pull it up I will pull it up why don't you tell us what the definition is first and we'll counter check it to what I pull up so tell us what if I tell you the

Andrew Wilsondefinition then I want you to Alo Tell me the definition before we fact check I didn't use the word but you are telling me I'm using the word incorrectly when I know I'm using it correctly did I say

Andrew Wilsonthat okay relating to or Den notating an animal or animals praying naturally on others to seeking to exploit or oppress others I think that number two would be

Andrew Wilsonthe thing that you would be going for seeking to exploit or or oppress right yes okay great so why would it be

Malikoppressive exploitative to do this between these two people who agree to do this who are adults okay yeah why so you are exploiting the fact that they have

Malikno knowledge of the real world and you could easily take advantage of someone who is a lot younger and more naive than yourself if that it's your only age range you should reflect on yourself why don't you want women who are in their

Malik20s hang on hang on just the argument just the argument why is it oppressive or exploitative it is I just explained it you can keep playing the song and I I don't want you to ramble I just want the

Maliksimple concise argument from you Malik why is it exploitative or oppressive cue the music cue the music I'm sorry you didn't hear the first time I answered but it is

Malikexploitive to specifically Target as a dating preference woman who you know may be way more naive and have

Andrew Wilsonway more L life experience than you wait so maybe you're using the word maybe that means that they also be getting hang on that also means that they may

Andrew Wilsonnot be getting exploited right yeah but there's a high probability that oh there's a high by an older man now why would a younger woman want to date an older man

Andrew WilsonAlec to exploit their money usually yeah I said it's wrong both way being hyper predatory towards these old men Malik what a bunch of sick women these these older men I agree hyper

MalikPredator aren't they like I said Andrew we could argue about this for two hours maybe we can come back to it I do want Malik please read this one finally a girl that doesn't wear makeup to the

TTS/Donationspodcast fourth girl from the right I'm so glad him not dating donated $100 he's hot he's Rich he's morally

TTS/Donationsstraight he's perfect he invites you over next next to his bed is biometric safe inside an armorite AR-15 rifle with

TTS/Donationsa fully loaded 30rd magazine your reaction you go ahead sure that's fine you date a guy who owned a fire uh

Andrew WilsonAR15 um I if there's a good reason for it yeah sure self-defense that is a wild gun for a selfdefense to own wait why is that why yeah why is that why would that

JoJobe a wild gun for self-defense it's well I mean it seems a little extreme compared to like a I want to extremely defend myself if I have to well no for like just like you could just get a if

Andrew WilsonI'm going to purpose of it hang on if I'm going to defend myself with a gun the purpose of it is determinate the other person correct that's what I'm defending myself for why would I give a if I had too

Andrew Wilsonmuch of an advantage why would I care about that don't I want maximum Advantage I think think there there's a

JoJopotential for more like more harm that on yourself or the people around

Andrew Wilsonyou why would there be more harm for the people around me cuz can I ask 15 is like have you ever shot a gun in your life no okay I thought so well an AR-15

Andrew Wilsonis is an assault rifle that's that's a no it's not an assault rifle it's stands for ArmaLite does not okay I don't know anything about guns not only that but just so you

Andrew Wilsonunderstand most gun crime in the United States perpetrated by people who use handguns almost nobody is ever killed with a rifle inside of the US more people are killed with hands and feet than they are with rifles including the

Andrew WilsonAR-15 just so you know it seems like if you were going to use a gun that might be the safest one to use for self-defense wait so would you be more in favor of someone defending their home or defending

Brian Atlasthemselves with a handgun a pistol versus a r AR-15 yeah so let me ask you a question are you against semi-automatic weapons

Brian Atlasyeah so you're against pistols and handguns then because a pistol and handgun it was a bit of a trick question but pistols pistols and handguns are

Andrew Wilsonsemi-automatic weapons what are we defending let's be maximum charitable maximum charitable to you okay hope so I don't know

TTS/Donationsanything anti-un people are so clueless Most states do not even allow the use of 5.55 road for hunting deer that's true it's too small it's uh too small of a

Andrew Wilsonround but yeah when when it comes to you're just talking about those guns where you pull the trigger and it goes bang right every single time bang bang bang sure those are the ones you're talking about yeah so I mean that would

Malikbe a revolver also just so you know I think with all due respect you just have no gun knowledge and that just sounds scary and that's what based your reaction would you say that's correct and I'm not trying to insult you my my

Brian Atlasknowledge of an AR-15 is from like video games that's what I thought in general wait but AR-15s Andrew they're also semi-automatic weapons right you pull the trigger once one bullet comes out well I mean yes generally speaking

Andrew Wilsonthat's true though you can get an automatic version of them if you have the right licensing but yes they are self-loading firearms gas operated self-loading so self-loading is semi-automatic that's what that means

Andrew Wilsonbut in this particular case yes the AR-15 about the safest gun in the world you can own almost nobody's ever killed with them ever so I mean more people

Andrew Wilsonagain are killed but with hands and feet than they are with an AR-15 and hand guns which are much easier to sneak into public than a yeah hand guns hand handguns are where almost all the crime

Andrew Wilsonis and it's only specifically with demographics which exist in major Metropolitan areas usually um they're in lower income areas so that's almost all the gun crime in the United States very

Andrew Wilsonlittle of it's actually perpetrated by legal gun owners to be honest with you going around the table on this I if you do you remember the prompt yeah if I saw

Maliaa AR what would I say I'd probably ask when we can go to the range yeah I know I would hope whoever I'm dating would have a gun really yeah I would also ask

Bellato go to the range yeah f safe I've grown up around them so yeah I wouldn't have a problem with it me neither I like

Brian Atlasto feel protected this poor this poor girl this poor girl the first one the first one all right let me it's over it's over I've never shot a

Celeste/Madisongun and guns make me uncomfortable cuz I'm just not around them so I'll take you ba we could go to the range can you read this mate been dating a long time coming been a fan since last last March

Celeste/Madisonmind you I am 5 foot tall and have given up on dating because or because of the woman on your show Girls birth laughter at the thought of men truth bomb donated

TTS/Donations$100 the R15 is the civilian version of the M16 which an automatic weapon they both shoot the same round repeal the NFA yeah so truth bomb's awesome he's

Andrew Wilsonright they should repeal the NFA it's but uh he's absolutely correct the the AR-15 even though there is still military versions of it it's basically just a civilian model of n16 A1 which was

Andrew Wilsondeveloped by Eugene Stoner but anyway yeah yeah yeah he's he's right totally right about that thank you truth Brom so continue on with this one um girls burst into laughter at the thought of my men the thought of men my highight even

Malikexisting brutal 31 years old zero chance in life disagree hee I disagree you disagree with his message I will say that the large majority of women woman is looking to

Malikdate a a man who's tall or taller than them at least but I think being 5T is not a deal breaker like even for me personally I ideally look for men who

Malikare my height or taller if we're talking about completely um materialistic stuff but if I found a man who checked off all my boxes and who would be a good father and take care of me I don't care about

Brian Atlasheight and I think a there are not a lot of women who would agree with me but there are women I you agree the thing is though you have to account for there's a

Brian Atlascertain percentage of women who will say they don't care about height but and even if like there's something in your subconscious that you're still going to be

Malikless like knee-jerk attracted to a guy who's shorter than you it's it's funny because the three of us um Kirby Mal and I actually had this conversation in the

Malikcar and it's not that um height matters it's a lot of lot of times shorter guys are just very insecure and not confident and they just carry themselves in a

Malikvery just put offish way if shorter men had more confidence I think women would be more attracted to Shorter men well this is kind of a what came first the

Brian Atlaschicken or the egg well what if there was just sads of women that didn't want to date them because they were shorter so that helped in their uh development

Malikof being insecure about their height and I agree it's it's because of society that they feel insecure but just because Society puts you into a box doesn't mean you have to hate yourself and be unhappy

Malikwith your life you if you're short you just need to accept that and just you can be successful in the business world you can work on the gym there are things you can change about yourself but you're never going to be able to change your

Brian Atlasheight so you need to just accept it and be confident about it I I mean I certainly agree with you that you ought to accept your circumstances and try to make the best of it as you can but

Brian Atlaspractically speaking I would tend to agree with him that uh you know a guy who is 5 foot tall is going to face certain specific struggles when it comes to dating related to his height but he

Maliksaid he's given up and I I'm saying I there are I don't think he should give up who who would date I don't know my advice him would just be to accept that you're short and don't don't give a you're going to get rejected a lot more

Brian Atlasthan someone who's not short but you just need to keep trying also he lives in communist Canada so maybe he could like try his hand at like I maybe like Asian countries Latin America you know they're shorter over there I mean there

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