Elon Musk WATCHES Whatever?! Andrew Wilson! HEATED DEBATE With Liberal Feminist?! | Dating Talk #140

Date: 2024-03-04

Duration: 6h 43m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMalia (DT140)>

MMalik (DT140)>

MMichaela (DT140)>

BBella (DT140)>

CCeleste (DT140)>

MMadison (DT182)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Malik(guest)

SPEAKER_03Esme(guest)

SPEAKER_04Celeste(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bella(guest)

SPEAKER_06Malia(guest)

SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_08Media/Clips(audience)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Celeste/Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_13Michaela(guest)

SPEAKER_14JoJo(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian Atlas opens show, noting Elon Musk replied to a Whatever clip tweet.

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... we had a little love this weekend we had Ellen musk reply to a tweet that had our video in it”

QuoteBrian shows the clip that got Elon Musk's reply: JoJo saying 'I don't think you can be sexist towards men and I don't think you can be racist towards white people'.

“I don't think you can be sexist towards men and I don't think you can be racist towards white people... Elon Musk responded... somebody shared that it got 8 million views”

QuoteAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I am the host of The One and Only Crucible one of the fastest growing debate channels on the internet”

Key MomentMalia reveals she's been celibate for 1.5 years without specific reason, gets 20-30 Hinge likes/day but only accepts ~1.

“I've been celibate for a year and a half not for any particular reason... usually on hinge I'll wake up with like 20 or 30 [likes]... I only like match with one”

Key MomentRatings round begins: Brian asks everyone to self-rate looks on 1-10 scale.

“Stiffler is very curious to ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you going around the table”

QuoteAndrew Wilson sarcastically self-rates as a 10 on looks.

“I'm a 10 for sure explain why there you have it”

Key MomentBrian calls out JoJo's body count claim: she said body count doesn't matter but won't reveal it — implying it does matter.

“I think body count matters so I'm not going to reveal it for that reason... that question tends to be asked in response to women saying that they think body count doesn't matter... but then they have a quite a bit of hesitation when it comes to revealing their own body count”

Key MomentCeleste: story of 4-year on/off relationship with heroin addict begins. She met him at 21 when he claimed 2 years clean.

“you dated a heroin addict on and off for four years... there were more than five times on and off... he relapsed on four separate occasions I honestly couldn't tell you if it was four or more there were five I think maybe was five six”

Key MomentCeleste reveals she hid the heroin addict relationship from her family to protect his image in their eyes.

“they didn't for four years this was going on on and off where this guy was taking heroin and he never told your folks... no... I was not telling my parents to protect his image”

Key MomentJoJo argues women are oppressed in the US, citing Blizzard California lawsuit as example.

“a big one is the whole blizzard case with the lawsuit with California... the state of California sued blizzard because of the unequal treatment of women in the workplace... same exact jobs same exact positions and they were getting paid way less than the men”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson counters: Blizzard settled without admission of wrongdoing; filing a complaint doesn't prove guilt.

“you can't just put forward a complaint and say that because a complaint was made that that means that therefore complaint was true... they admitted no wrongdoing according to this settlement”

ControversyBrian reveals Google internal pay audit found they were overpaying women vs male counterparts, countering JoJo's pay gap argument.

“Google did a review an internal review and found that they were actually overpaying women uh compared to their male counterparts”

Key MomentJoJo cannot name a right that men have today that women do not. Brian presses this question.

“what right does a man have in this country that a woman does not today”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson argues selective service / male draft is the clearest example of male-specific oppression that feminists never advocate against.

“men can be pressed into selective service because nobody gives a about them... women can't... and yet they gripe on the opposite side about things that they consider to be oppressive to them when they will never have to make that ultimate sacrifice”

QuoteEsme leaves the show early before body count round concludes, thanks everyone.

“thank you for having me it was really nice to meet you guys... you weren't as scary as I thought you were going to be”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson uses gamble analogy to get Esme to concede that body count correlates with loyalty: 1 woman with 1 partner for 19 years vs 1 woman with 19 partners over 19 years — which would you gamble on for loyalty?

“if you had to gamble if you had to roll all of your dice on one which one would you say would be more likely to be more promiscuous... you're going to roll it on the person with the least body count which tells me that it matters”

QuoteEpisode wrap-up; Brian thanks Andrew Wilson and the panel.

“okay we're going to wrap up there guys long show long show... go subscribe to Andrew Wilson's The Crucible channel”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and Elon Musk tweet reaction

Brian introduces the show from Santa Barbara. Notes Elon Musk replied to a Whatever clip tweet (got 8M views). Also mentions Trace Cyrus (Metro Station) shared the channel. Andrew Wilson joins remotely.

Guest introductions and relationship status

All guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Go around table on relationship status and longest relationships. JoJo: single 2yr, 1 relationship 4yr. Esme: divorced. Malia: single 2.5yr, celibate 1.5yr. Malik: single 2.5yr. Michaela: in relationship 2.5yr. Bella: in relationship since Oct. Celeste: in relationship since Oct, longest was on/off 4yr. Madison: in relationship 1.5yr. Andrew Wilson: married 10+ years.

Dating apps and Malia's dating experience

Discussion of dating app experiences. Malia: gets 20-30 Hinge likes/day but only matches ~1; was banned from apps for not responding; had 1 date in 4 months; prefers nerdy/gamer types. JoJo: only relationship was long-distance. Brian probes Malia on why she doesn't pursue dates.

Hypergamy and women dating up

Andrew Wilson and Brian argue that women hypergamously seek men with more resources. JoJo and others debate whether this is a generational trend. Discussion on whether women's financial independence is changing the dynamic. Andrew cites that hypergamy seems to be increasing not decreasing.

Should women date up: Andrew Wilson scenario

Andrew Wilson presents scenario: 25-year-old man choosing between hot 21-year-old and established 27-year-old. Discussion on what men vs women prioritize in partner selection. Brian cites statistics on men preferring beauty and motherly qualities; women preferring security and resources.

Dating patterns and relationship timelines

JoJo discusses her long-distance relationship. Esme discusses her marriage at 18, divorce at 28, and post-separation hookup culture experience. Discussion of modern dating apps and communication.

Partner preferences: looks, dating apps, nerdy guys

Brian asks each guest what they're looking for. Malia: nerdy/gamer guys, engineers, anime nerds. Brian notes Malia gets many matches but rarely accepts. Discussion of dating app rejection asymmetry between men and women (Hinge: 20-30 likes/day vs 1 match accepted).

Ratings round: self-rate looks 1-10

Brian asks guests to rate their looks. Malia: 6. Malik: 7. Andrew Wilson: sarcastically 10. JoJo: implied ~7 range. Celeste: ~7. Bella: 6.

Celeste: dating a heroin addict for 4 years

Brian addresses notes on Celeste's on/off 4-year relationship with a heroin addict. He relapsed 5-6 times; each relapse ended the 'on' phase. She never ended it — always his ghosting. Met when she was 21, he was 24 and claimed 2 years clean. She stayed because she saw more than the addiction. Hid relationship from family to protect his image. Others discuss rescuer/fixer mentality.

Feminism definition debate

Brian and Andrew argue feminism is female supremacy, not equality. Malik argues feminism is about equality; Brian says that's egalitarianism. Andrew distinguishes classic liberalism from feminism. Quick round: JoJo identifies as feminist (equity-based); others mostly do not. Malik says he is egalitarian.

Are women oppressed in the US: JoJo vs Andrew Wilson

JoJo argues women are oppressed, cites Blizzard California lawsuit (equal pay). Andrew and Brian challenge this: complaint not proof of guilt; settlement without admission of wrongdoing. Brian cites Google internal review found they were overpaying women. Debate on whether inequity = oppression. JoJo cannot name a right men have that women don't (in contemporary US).

Traditional vs feminist panel self-identification

Quick round: do you identify as feminist? JoJo: yes (equity definition). Others: no. Malik: egalitarian. Andrew declares if guests don't identify as feminist, they can be assessed by whether they're traditional.

Women in corporate settings and workplace oppression

JoJo brings Blizzard case again. Brian introduces Google's internal audit finding women were overpaid. Andrew and Brian challenge whether corporate incidents prove systemic oppression. 1970s sex work policing example from JoJo about prostitutes vs pimps.

WWII civilian death casualty statistics video

Brian or Andrew plays WWII casualty documentary video. Andrew argues men were primary victims even counting civilians, due to massacres targeting men. JoJo pushes back. Debate on whether military casualties vs civilian casualties shift the picture.

Selective Service and men's draft: is it oppression

Extended debate: Brian and Andrew argue men being subject to selective service while women are exempt is a form of male oppression. JoJo disputes this framing. Andrew: men can be pressed into service because society does not value them. Malik raises conscription as a counterpoint.

Esme departure and final discussion

Esme thanks the panel and leaves early (~6:10) before body count discussion concludes (3-hour drive home). Andrew compliments her articulation. Remaining panel continues discussion on body count, promiscuity, and relationship fitness.

Promiscuity, body count, and pair bonding

Going around the table on whether body count matters. Results: Celeste/Madison: 8 and 7. Bella/others: 5-6 range. JoJo: declined specific number, range above 30. Esme: doesn't care personally about body count. Andrew uses gamble analogy to get Esme to concede body count correlates with loyalty. Esme concedes gamble point but maintains she would not choose partner by body count alone.

Wrap-up and outro

Brian closes the show. Thanks Andrew Wilson and the panel. Plugs The Crucible channel. Madison reads TTS. Brian raids a WoW streamer on Twitch.

Transcript

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Brian Atlascan be sexist towards men and I don't think you can be racist towards white people how have you arriv yeah so all right somebody shared that it got 8 million views then Elon Musk they're

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Brian Atlasdisclaimer the views expressed by the guest do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever podcast by the way VIA Discord since I brought it up we have Andrew Wilson joining us uh oh no it's okay Nick so without further Ado

JoJowe're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location so where you from in occupation go ahead my name is JoJo um location right now San Diego um I'm a full-time student getting my masters in

Brian Atlasinternational Affairs and then I twitch stream on the channel K on the side you said you're from uh San Diego oh that's or you currently live did you go to uh UCSD or San Diego State yes okay well

Brian Atlasyou said you're in college and you live in San Diego so I'm just by process of elimination school

Brian Atlasokay okay and so um did you say age 25 25 are you getting your Masters in Masters in what did you say International Affairs okay what about

Esmeyou uh my name is Esme I'm 28 I live in the Inland Empire I work in human resources and side job doing uh music festival reviews and you do fire

Esmebreathing and I do fire breathing Burl did you bring anything with you I mean if you want to get we need do we need liquor and a lighter is that how it works no I mean unless you want to catch

Brian Atlasthat beard on fire I'll pass um but uh okay that's very cool um how long were have you been doing the fire breathing uh fire

Esmebreathing I want to say coming up on 3 years but fire performing or manipulating for uh quite some time have you ever burnt yourself oh yeah many

Brian Atlastimes yeah is there any my eyelashes eyelashes yeah okay what about you hi my name is do you hang on do you do that at like Raves can we adjust we need to do some

Brian Atlasaudio adjustment um it's is there anything you can do Andrew on your end to I'll take a I'll take a look but I'm getting a an echo I'm not sure why that's probably

Andrew Wilsonthe migrant you might are you watching the stream Andrew no nope the echo's gone it sounds like it just it just comes up

Andrew Wilsonwhen I uh when I chime in so oh so you hear your self speaking yeah yep but only only for a second so are you streaming good now are you streaming or

Brian AtlasI am yeah okay you might there's probably maybe somebody in your chat might be able to help you there's probably some set on Discord that you might have switched on that can address the your Echo that you're hearing of

Brian Atlasyourself um I don't I don't hear it anymore I think we have to reduce Andrew's volume in Discord so Nick do

Maliayou know how to you should see a volume button for you to play with um go ahead all right my name is Malia I'm 27 years old I currently live in Los Angeles but

MaliaI'm from Carpenteria so nice and close Okay um I work full-time and an only fanso media agency and then I'm also a twitch streamer as well wait you work at

Maliathe agency yes I don't do so you don't do o what's what do you do what do I do um well we have a few models and you might like set them up with

Maliacollaborations track their content promo stuff okay and you so you kind of help Market them or yeah okay yeah yeah it's not just their only fans it might be

MalikInstagram and stuff like that okay but you don't do any off stuff no okay what about you hello I'm malik4 I'm a full-time twitch streamer a

Malikpart-time clown um and I'm 24 years old from the Appalachia mountains but I'm temporarily out here in

Michaela[Laughter] La go ahead I'm Michaela I'm a hair stylist and Salon manager I'm 27 and I'm from Atlanta

BellaGeorgia hi I'm Bella I'm from Las Vegas I'm 21 and I'm currently a receptionist for a beverage Distribution Center

Celeste/Madisonwelcome thank you um my name is Celeste I'm 26 I'm from Huntington Beach and I work in management my name is Madison I'm 19 I'm originally from San Diego but I

Celeste/Madisoncurrently reside in Santa Barbara I go to school I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College studying business and communication and I work on the whatever podcast and then we have

Andrew Wilsonour dear friend Andrew Wilson yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I am the host of The One and Only Crucible one of the fastest growing debate

Andrew Wilsonchannels on the internet I appreciate uh Brian having me on appreciate whatever audience for coming out tonight and I appreciate the uh the girls for showing up uh Nick were you able to lower hisum

Brian Atlasexcept Malik except Mal everybody else you too Andrew wait let's do a little troubleshooting on this Nick can you just lower his volume significantly

Brian Atlasyeah and Andrew can you recite the Gettysburg Address for us while we're doing some four score and seven years

Andrew Wilsonago boost Nick as we looked at this great nation for stuff happened and also things I think that's good I think that

Brian Atlasshould be good um and I do want to bring it to the chat I want to ask the chat sorry guys you know it's uh when we do these Callins there's some some additional technical uh considerations

Brian Atlasto the viewers uh does his audio sound good one in the chat if the audio sounds good there two in the chat if uh it needs some adjustment one in the chat

Brian Atlassounds good two in the chat if we need a little bit of adjustment I'm seeing a bunch of ones so I think it's good um Nick if you can keep an eye on the chat

Brian Atlasthroughout the stream just see if there's any audience feedback if he's too uh if it's too loud he's too low so we'll just uh we'll we'll see how it is throughout the course of the Stream So

Brian Atlasgoing around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship

Brian Atlasmarried polycule sex cult Harum whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead uh currently single haven't been in a relationship

JoJofor around 2 years and my longest relationship is four years so was uh your last relationship the fouryear relationship it's my only relationship only relationship you've

JoJobeen single for two years why did he dump you I broke up with him um but um it's because of distance and just how busy we got was it always long distance it was always long distance always it

JoJostarted did it start I visited a friend in college and that's how I met her uh met him met him and then um what was the distance uh I lived at the

Brian Atlastime in Washington state and he lived in Sacramento it's pretty pretty far yeah what's the drive well I flew oh you'd fly okay okay uh why did you break up

JoJowith him just the distance and then I started at UCSD and then uh we became like just way too busy okay good times

Esmecool what about you I'm divorced uh been separated since 2018 2019 uh but we were together since which which year 2018 2019 but I don't know

Brian Atlasthere's so much stuff that has happened since then um when when were you actually so you were separated when when were you get got the divorce officially divorced 2021 okay wow that so you

Esmeinitiated the divorce in 2018 um no we were actually separated and um moved away kind of just forgot

Esmeabout the whole thing that sounds mean to say but um I guess the legal processes for divorces are pretty expensive so we just waited okay so you

Brian Atlaswere div you got the actual divorce in 2021 e right have you any dating it's tough dating after being married and today's day and age is

Esmereally weird wait so okay you're 28 how long were you married um I was married in 2015 2015 and how long were you together with him

Esmebefore you were married since I was 18 so you were okay wait so I think it would have been from uh the age of 18 Till the age of 25 so you guys met in

Brian Atlas2014 we met in the end of 2013 but we didn't um really get together till so that's kind of one of the things a lot like cuz dating apps really kind of sprung around I think it was Tinder kind

Brian Atlasof came into I think 2012 M and then but so you've kind of missed the dating app apocalypse yeah I think so I what have

Esmeyou since your separation have you I've I've tried to um but like I said the dating scene is really weird hookup culture is like a huge thing and

EsmeI'm not really about it I feel like I get way too attached and that's just like not my style um and then on top of that people are they can't keep conversation

Esmeon at least on dating apps and it's just like somebody replies and then like the conversation dies off within a day or two and then people don't reply they're

Esmelike oh sorry I haven't been on for like two months um hi there again so I'm just like I'm over you okay convo we could that's actually an interesting um thing

Brian Atlasthat we can talk about convo dies down later but okay so any any dating at all

Brian Atlassince the separation um serious dating no unserious dating um I guess like going on dates have you had a rebound has there been a rebound yes multiple

Esmerebounds one rebound uh three rebound two rebounds yeah you had rebound so this is no so this is the thing so uh I started dating this person when I was 18

Esmeright and so during my early 20s I was together with this one person and so afterwards coming out of a separation while one being young trying to find

Esmemyself and like figure out who I am as an individual but really moving so I was in California moved to Arizona and so I

Esmedidn't know anybody and all I knew was that person and so my being was really ref a reflection of this one person that I was dating and so coming out of that I

Esmewas like well I've never like participated in this hookup culture thing and my friends were like the best way to get over someone is to get under someone so I was like all right let's try it and then I tried it and I was

Esmelike yeah that's not really for me um I felt like I got attached and then um they were just like you wake up in the morning and they're either like gone or you're done and with whatever it is that

Esmeyou're doing and then they're like all right I got stuff to do like get out and so that doesn't make me feel very good so I just like decide not to partake in said scene wait so did you would you say

Esmethat you were trying to find yourself no are you sure yeah I you weren't trying to find yourself I don't think that I was I was trying to find myself I think it's been a lot easier to

Esmefind myself now in like you know 25 to 28 now it's just I'm more like all right I know what I want I know what I don't want I know what I don't want to

Esmeparticipate in and um hopefully that opinion keeps forever changing cuz we're forever evolving gotcha H okay so you

Maliadid a little bit of the hookup culture thing but didn't really work out no okay what about you we'll come back to some of the stuff what about you I'm single I have been single for about two and a

Malikhalf years and my longest relationship was like three and a half three and a half all right what about you yeah I'm also single my only relationship uh was for two years and

MichaelaI've been single for three years um I'm currently in a two and a half year relationship and it's been my longest consistent one longest consistent one what's your longest on

Michaelaand off again relationship I think equivalent so like on for like a year off for like six months and back on so this is the longest yeah sure

Bellacollectively what about you um I am currently in a relationship and my longest relationship was about 4 and a half years how long have you been in this current relationship um since October so

Bellaa few months but we've been seeing each other since March of last year since so almost a year seeing each other but officially dating since October were you wait so you were like a

Bellasituation ship prior to getting the official title yeah cuz we were long distance um okay are you still long distance no we live together now oh okay yeah huh were you dating other guys

Belladuring that talking stage no I've whenever I'm talking to somebody I'm only talking to that one person so okay it was just me and him what about you I'm in a relationship and my longest

Brian Atlasrelationship was on and off for about four years how long have you currently been uh in a relationship uh October as well so like four five months okay

Celeste/MadisonMaddie what about you I'm in a relationship my current one is my longest it's a year and a half like tomorrow actually and what about

Andrew Wilsonyou yeah I'm uh happily married and I have been for a long long time all right he's married cool Good Times uh how many years how many

Brian Atlasyears uh over a decade all right cool so let's see there's a couple things I wanted to touch on single single for both of you

Brian Atlasfor two years you're for three years uh so when you say single what does that mean cuz I mean come on you you guys you're all attractive girls right so

Brian Atlasthere's some guys in the picture come on no no guys in the picture zero guys in the picture been on one day in the past two years wait hold on do we have no

Brian Atlasonly fans gr none of you only F single holy boys wow thank oh wow that's you're kind of semi I mean no I'm

Brian Atlasnot on there well you don't you don't have o but you work for an agency but that you could be the plumber you could be the the janitor that his me I really still can't

Brian Atlasremember um not one only fans girl not one I know it's crazy right I think we had one recently is this the is this the first Brian no we've had we've had a

Esmefair amount of episodes without only fans girls but that's a W for the whatever podcast okay that's a conversation we were having but I'm like I have an O but it's not that kind of O that's such a weird statement

Esmeit's like okay so when you when people talk about only fan girls you think about like girls that do adult content but like so I have patreon o but it's not for adult content it's for like you

Esmemean you have a patreon uh and she's on the site I'm on the site I just don't do adult content oh man disaster we can we

Brian Atlascan no longer claim that this is a noan I was like I don't want to say cut so you uh you have an O but you post um they're like Photo fire breathing videos

Esmewhat do you no not fire breathing they're uh video and photo sets um have you've made money on only fans yes but it's not like sexual in nature no okay

Esmeall right she's not an only fan she's not ANF girl were did you have something or I was going to say I've made money on only fans too it's not from my own content I did I used to cam when I was

Esme18 oh okay now the truth comes out all right so no it's like so i' damn it I had faith in society for a second I've steered away long from that like long time ago you used to do

Brian Atlaswebcamming correct so like full-blown just like camera up the hoo-ha basic oh boy no just looking right down main screen that's what camming is it's just like so no theree Eagle there's

Esmedifferent there's different ranges of ranges of like camming right there's some girls that will go all like all out but then there's like topless and stuff like that

Brian Atlaswhat's even the point like as I just don't even see no like I just why would a guy watch oh that's like Twitch streaming it I guess kind of basically you were like a twitch it's like it's

Brian Atlaslike twitch before twitch existed oh okay all right cool all right all right um but okay so you you nude at all like to topless yeah it's not t streaming

Esmelet's CM down that's it just no no no no crazy like you never it was only from here up I mean you were nude

Esmebut you were like camera down there with whatever yeah the truth is coming out yeah okay her tis have been online that's yes

Brian Atlasso y'all are single okay but when's the last time you went on a date with a guy I've only been on one

Brian Atlasdate that's not my boyfriend in my life okay so I think we need to Define date though cuz a girl will like I've never had a private dinner or any of that hung

Brian Atlasout privately the guy and like cuz because than for example a girl will like go over to a guy's house they'll have dinner at his house they'll she's not going to call that a date

Brian Atlasthat's weird this is this the first time they're meeting yeah it could be the first time they're meeting that's why would you go over to someone's house the first time me you'll that's like going Beyond a date in my view but but you won't consider it a date so like oh

Brian Atlaswhen's Last you're not really dating but you're other men type thing I don't think that's a date so nope none of that nothing you've been on was this before your for your relationship no it

Brian Atlaswas after so in your two years of being single yes are you by no why are you a

Brian Atlasrecluse and a Hermit that's crazy is it facts though is true somewhat yes okay and you live in San Diego I mean that's

Brian Atlasa pretty populous area so uh yeah a lot of hot Surfer Dudes San Diego what's what's the deal um I just think like

JoJobecause it's kind of right now pointless to me just because I'm so busy that I don't feel like I I it's a terrible excuse and everyone's going to say that but I just don't think I can give the

JoJokind of attention and like the emotional attachment on all that to a relationship that I'm like what's the point of attempting what's the point point of what of attempting a like going on dates

Brian Atlasand things if I can't do you want kids one day one day you want to have a life partner get married yeah but okay but at this point of life that would be the

JoJopoint available no I mean you know are you doing the I'm focusing on my career thing um well I'm again full-time student so like I would like

JoJoto graduate and be at a point where I know you could do both at once okay but like but like um I I'm not even sure I'm going to continue reciting in um San Diego right

JoJoso like if I enter I don't want another long distance relationship gotcha um well I I was just curious how much longer do you have of

Andrew Wilsonschool I graduate June oh so not so not very much longer yep are you going to you think you're going to try to settle down after that or are you going to be pretty career oriented do you think I

Brian Atlasthink I'm going to start going on dates after June that's the goal okay wait Andrew can we

Brian Atlashave you your um a little off center am I red I look red in this yeah just a little bit chat yo chat one in the chat do I look red we I think our camera settings are all scuffed um he

Brian Atlasgot some little py I was uh I was yeah got a little sunburn today serent got some sunburn um Ser perfect Andrew um Okay so what about

Maliayou you've been single for two years I've been single for two years I've been celibate for a year and a half not for any particular reason year a year and a half yeah just don't do much I've been

Maliaon like one date I don't know I don't get outside a lot you don't get as well we like play games on stream we don't date often

Brian Atlaswho's we we're friends sorry you guys like lip Okay uh so you don't that's you guys full-time streamers no no but then

MaliaI work from home so and I'm not are you guys on dating apps no I'm on them I'm not very good at them which ones are you on all of

Brian Atlasthem T Tinder Bumble oh not Tinder Tinder quite Bumble and hinch yeah Farmers Only yeah Christian Mingle all of them of course every single one uh so how often do you check your dating apps

Brian Atlasevery day every day yeah I just uh so you I mean you're attractive girl I'm sure you get a lot of matches I yeah I I do and are guys asking you on

Maliadates yeah and you're saying no yeah well dating is like weird in La it's not an enjoyable experience to be

Maliahonest I've gone like I don't know it never goes anywhere I also I don't know I don't want to go on pointless States really just hang out well no it has oh you'd rather hang out what do you mean

Brian Atlasyou'd rather just hang out I'd rather like I could go on a date where I could just sit at home oh okay I thought you meant like hang out with a Gody I'm open to going on dates I just nothing's

Brian Atlashappened nothing's happened how much time a day do you spend on a dating app 20 minutes 30 minutes oh yeah just would I like 10 minutes maybe okay killing time okay

Brian Atlasso why are you just curving all these dudes on dating apps like why be on the date like cuz you said you've been celibate for a year and a half in that year have you been on dating apps for

Maliathat entire time period no when did you download the dating apps um I well I was banned for quite some time and I just got a new phone so I got unbanned that's a red flag but why why no it wasn't they

Maliadidn't believe that it was me cuz I don't reply you got banned for not replying on for not being me it was a fake person but it was me I just don't check it very like what so imation it happens to girls

Brian Atlasall the time where like they're like this is a fake profile but it was me I just oh but you got unbanned in any case was it which sh was that that you got banned on I've been banned on every single one like Tinder I can't get on at all you're there's no okay you're

Maliatrolling on the apps probably maybe I don't know you're probably like sending like no you're probably sending like kind of factious messages no getting reported I think you're not replying to any guys so they're reporting that's

Brian Atlaswhat I think that what happens like I match and then I kind of forget about the app for a little bit and okay so how long have you been not banned on the

Brian Atlasdating I've been active on them for maybe the past four months past four months okay nothing in four not one Prospect in

Brian Atlasfour months oh no the one date I went on was in December so oh okay it was it was one date yeah it wasn't didn't go anywhere did it no second date why didn't why wasn't their second date he never reached back out to me did you

Brian Atlasreach back out to him yeah you did so okay you went on the date what how did that conversation come afterwards it was one sec Sal Brian

TTS/Donationscarar donated $100 as always Maddie is the only 10 at the table I would ask Frankie's D just to taste that sweet pee no homo of

Brian Atlascourse Brian when is Sophia coming back she was a breast of fresh air bre breast fresh air

Brian Atlasuh Maddie do you want to respond first no okay uh I don't know who so we've had a lot

Brian Atlasof Sophia's it's all they're all a blur to me um was it Sophie or Sophia I don't know um you'd have to give me details on who that is if it is

Maliawho I think it is no she's not coming back on the show um but uh okay so how did that convo go well he was like oh it was so nice to hang out and then he was out of town for a month and it just kind

Maliaof fell off m but it was a good day it was a fine dat I think he got back with his ex-girlfriend to be honest ah good times CU it was like kind of weird Good Times how many matches do you think

Brian Atlasyou've had on the dating apps uh a good amount how many do you think you've had ever in my life uh let's just say the past four months since you've been on

Brian Atlasband um over a thousand matches no matches okay yeah no maybe like 30 only 30 yeah I don't so you know when you're

Brian Atlasswiping right yeah what like per hundred men you see on the apps how many do you swipe yes on um

Maliauh normally cuz I like hinge I normally just go through who's liked me it's a little bit less timec consuming yeah and you also don't have to face rejection yeah well they don't tell you you've been rejected I just assume they deleted

Brian Atlasthe account well if you don't you yeah so okay you just pick amongst the men who have already yeah usually sent a like so of the men who like you how much do

Brian Atlasyou pick them um say you get 10 matches mhm how many depends what how's it looking that day two of them three of them how many did you get per day per

Maliaday how many matches do you get per day matches per day not a lot how many like maybe two or one I don't know or one

Brian Atlasokay yeah so let's say in a week you get 10 how many do you match end up matching with by clicking yes how many do I match with that's what I'm saying like one I

Brian Atlasonly like match with one no no no but so how many sorry so how many send you likes per day a decent amount probably depends on

Brian Atlasthe day how many on average on average yeah that's what I meant not how many you like match up with how many like you um well Bumble I have no idea but

Brian Atlasusually on hinge I'll wake up with like 20 or 30 okay so of the 20 to 30 that you receive per day how many do you choose to match with well I think you

Maliasaid it was one like one yeah so one out of 30 guys are suitable for you to never go on a date with no no no it's not it's not that they're not suitable I think I just have like a really particular type

Maliaand the type of guy I like doesn't really like me that's interesting what is your type like nerdy guys you like nerdy guys I'm sure there there's plenty of nerdy guys on H I don't know they show me really like Surfer hot guys

Brian Atlaswhich great I like looking at him what is a nerdy guy what does that mean like he's he's uh an engineer or are you talking like an anime Wu like that type

Maliaof um an engineer would be awesome also an anime nerd would be awesome too okay so just broad nerd yeah just someone they can fit into the various yeah usually like a like gamer type

Brian AtlasVibes but game gamer type Vibes you guys are on Twitch how are you not finding I'm sure there's like gamer dudes I'm I think maybe I'm the problem yeah you think I don't think there's like a lack of there's self awareness so the guys you

Brian Atlaslike don't like you so nerdy guys don't like you why do you think that is I don't know you don't know well I don't it's not that are you a nerdy girl sorry I didn't mean to cut you off that no

Maliait's okay um am I a nerdy girl I think so I think I'm not really like self-aware if somebody likes me and so maybe there's people that show interest like also this is just a thing in my

Maliahead but my first two boyfriends were from dating apps and like that didn't work out so I'm kind of like would prefer to meet someone in person um okay it's just like so how you going to meet a nerd in person that's very true twitch

Brian Atlasor something I got to hit up the cons I guess okay so your type is Nery nerdy guy do you have is there a like a celebrity that you can think of that

Brian Atlasfits the ar ar Arc Type of what you consider like a nerdy guy that you be attracted to yeah I would say like nerdy

Brian Atlasxqc like that kind of like Discord like okay ni pull up his Instagram pull up his Instagram oh God Nick pull up his Instagram wait this is public

Brian Atlasactually I'm gonna send him I've been I've messaged with him on Twitter I'm going to take a video with you and I'm going to put you little Matchmaker here yeah just pull up his Instagram we're going to have the girls

Brian Atlaswe're going to go around the girl I want the and we definitely want Andrew Wilson's input here on you date excus starting with her if just whenever you can pull it up I mean I know what he looks like I I could say well you know

Brian Atlasjust just for the stream they might not know hold

Brian Atlason well he looks handsome those are good pictures you're going to have to make it smaller put us on the other side all right so this is execute no no

Brian Atlasno I mean the camera all right so actually probably make make the thing bigger yeah that's fine all right guys

Brian Atlasthis is uh Felix he's uh you know male scroll down y he's a male he's

Brian Atlasmale um he man he's a good guy he's Canadian speaks French he's got a cat um and takes a lot of selfies MH he's a

Brian Atlasstreamer he's got it all around good dude okay there he is uh would you uh you know are you interested in him can I he he's pretty hyperactive and I kind of

JoJolike that so yeah probably you like men with ADHD yeah I mean I think so I think it's like it's a nice um it keeps it exciting your brain's always trying to

Esmefollow their train of thought okay so you want the chaos basically yes you're attracted to the chaos okay what about you uh sure I it looked like he there was a picture like the third picture on

Esmethe top of his profile looked like they playing soccer or something Soccer Cats and dyed hair he can match my hair so yeah

Maliaokay yes but he's a little too clouded that might be kind of a nightmare sorry I'm seeming very disappointed why he look at his

Brian Atlasex-girlfriend now I don't want to end up like that what what kind of uh what kind of content do you make on Twitch wait but hold on just before we do we do that let's get everyone's reaction to the

Malikyeah I I like exec's energy I think he's a very hyper person I'm also a very hyper person I also um think it's funny how he choos his own toenails of and live um I think it's cor I think it's

Malikfunny most people think that's gross um I think I think it's cute but what makes it cute wait how it's just random as and I'm a very

Brian Atlasrandom person and yes that's kind of nasty and if we were together I would not uh so just continue going around the table I need to get up really quick and then I'll have Andrew jump in with his

Michaelauh if you had any questions or anything um that's the first time I've ever seen him so based on looks I would but I'd probably give him a haircut just a little bit yeah I feel

Bellalike that's the first time I've seen him too and I'm going to say flat answer no yeah that's a no for me as well high standards high standards she's

Celeste/Madisonmulti-million I don't think I would say just throwing that out there I mean it's really hard to judge people just off of looks because like you were saying I feel like you could like the image of a nerdy guy but also nerdy guys when you I

Celeste/Madisondon't I think you said like maybe they don't like you or something like I feel like you look like you could be someone that's like super extroverted and like outgoing and talkative but like when you meet you in person like you're pretty

Michaelachill and mellow definitely so that's do you think that they think you're out of their league I hope not are nerdy guys really on dating apps like that though

Maliayeah yeah really yeah I'm sure there are I also think it's kind of hard like to do the communication back and forth like two people that are quite like shy especially like cuz somebody has to put in the effort and usually it just kind

Maliaof like somebody mentioned early dwindles down like it just kind of goes nowhere it's like very much my experience yeah I agree I also what kind of uh what kind of content do you make on Twitch um just hot tub streaming

Maliariding blow up animals I'm just kidding no I I'm kidding I'm sorry uh ick ASMR yeah it's mouth Taps all that yeah eating your toenails yeah yeah yeah

Maliawhatever the people want to see really it's just chatting I'm I'm a really casual streamer I stream like twice a week maybe few hours just talking do you play video games any of that stuff uh I used to play video games

Maliaa lot but I got really annoyed with everyone wanting to like join theame game like everyone's like can I join I'm like no dude I want to play without you you're going to bring me gotta well the

Andrew Wilsonreason the reason I'm curious is if you were let's say trying to grow your Following over on Twitch you would say that you were into nerdy guys who were Gamers especially if you were doing

Maliagaming content right yes I think twitch I was just so I was just curious yeah no I agree I think that that would make sense I also think it would just you like people who like the same things

Maliathat you like typically um but I also do have a prettyy wide range like I'm not strictly if someone's a gamer going to be like wait you don't game freak don't talk to me would you would you say that you're maybe interested in somebody

Unknownwho's more introverted than someone who's like super outgoing can you pull your m to the edge me no yeah thank

Maliayou I don't know I think it just depends on the person are you a homebody or no oh yeah yeah yeah so would you be okay with dating someone who's not a home body like someone who would take you out probably be for the best honestly get me

Maliaoutside yeah as long as you're open to it why not it's not it's I don't think that I would have like a hard time dating I think I've just kind of been like dismissive of it I haven't like put too much effort into it um but I definit

Celeste/Madisonlike why waste your time yeah it wouldn't necessarily be a waste either I just feel like I've been just haven't done it I don't know it's like if I met someone do agree that

MaliaLa is probably not the yeah the best place to date people pick people from but yeah the few dates I've been on have been like pretty nightmare so I've just

Malialike I'm good no just like like talking to a wall it seems sometimes really they just like want to talk about every celebrity that they've ever met and how much money they

Bellamake and I was actually going to ask a question do you feel like maybe it's just based off of like location that maybe you're not finding the people that maybe you are better suited for or do you think it's more so just the way

Maliaonline dating is right now poten I also think like I could definitely be more active on it like I could put more effort into it it's not it's me right like I'm the

Brian Atlasproblem there you go all right uh actually going around the table on this are your parents still together yes for like 30 years now or

Maliasomething oops go ahead yes for a really long time no they were never together no yes for yeah long time yeah for 30 years

Andrew WilsonI think no my mom is diseased but yes they were together okay and yes mine were're also together and are still together Andrew could we are you able to

Brian Atlasscoot your chair a little bit we want to try to keep Center you again um if you can sorry my OCD is kicking in um that better that better Brian perfect

Brian Atlasperfect thank you thank you uh cool okay so let's see oh we're going to here's where we're going to start s right so some of you have maybe seen the show

Brian Atlasbefore maybe you've seen a clip of Andrew maybe you've seen a clip of Madison and you disagree with something so we want to start off with does

Brian Atlasanybody here disagree with anything I've said Andrew Andrew has said Madison has said I've said Nick has said whatever it may

JoJobe that you've seen a clip or you've seen about the show I got a a few take out your notebook go ahead oh I'm trying to think of the ones I actually

JoJosaid in messaging one of them being I'm very curious why you keep your body count a secret but then you kind of pester sometimes not all the time other people to share that information I don't

Brian Atlasthink I pester sometimes pester has a very specific specific definition I'll usually so for example I might say someone might hesitate to want to reveal

Brian Atlasthe actual body count and I'm might for example say how about a range and then I might for example if they refuse a range I might say well is it over or under X

Brian Atlasnumber less than 10 more than 10 and if they do not want to even answer that I'll typically relent and uh relent in the pest ring as you might say and that's the extent of it typically I've

Brian Atlasseen them say like single digits and you're like okay so nine oh I do I got multipli by three and that's real number I play that all the time I

JoJofeel like that alone though makes you like makes the girls want to reveal it more cuz they're like no it's not that high it's not a nine it's three oh I don't think maybe it's possible wait

Brian AtlasNick did you lower the total audio what's the audio for no no no no no no just the audio what's the level at what is the

Brian Atlaslevel at oh a oh that's weird I don't know My Stream deck's low anyways um that's it well so I'm curious I don't reveal I

TTS/Donationsdon't reveal my body count I mean I have a lot but yeah that's one okay well oh saved Andrew donated $100 I love the podcast it's very

TTS/Donationsinteresting to hear the perspectives of different people from different parts of the country Andrew is a Chad because I'm a Chad and Brian you're an amazing host L Y2 I'm all right thank you Andrew

Brian Atlasappreciate it the league of Andrews continues to win there it is the league of Andrews wait nick uh scroll up in the sources on OBS what hit the arrow next

Brian Atlasto the overlay folder so it just hides all that it'll make it easier um so oh to answer your question well I think body count matters so I'm not going to reveal it for that reason I was going to

Celeste/Madisonsay also I think you direct that towards girls who would come on the say and say come on the show and say that body count doesn't matter yeah I typically

Brian Atlastypically that question tends to be asked in response to uh women saying that they think body count doesn't matter social construct doesn't matter but then they have a quite a bit of hesitation when it comes to revealing

JoJotheir own body count which to me would indicate that they actually do think it matters well it's more like cuz you are going to reveal it to your partner right you're going to reveal the body count at some point so it's already going to be

JoJoout there if you're like trying to hide that number because potentially you're scared that your significant other is going to judge you but then you're going to reveal it when are you talking about

JoJome or people in general I'm just talking about you in general cuz if you're trying to talk to a girl and date her you're going to probably reveal that information sure so it's already out there she's going to tell everyone well

JoJono like saying it's already out there as in like might as well reveal you're not trying to talk to any of your audience or the girls who come on like that right what do you

Brian Atlasmean I don't I'm not she's implying if you're trying to date any of he's not that's a bit of a stretch if that's the implication no no no I'm saying like do do you think that the only people who are aware of this conversation are the

Brian Atlaspeople that are sitting at this table right now well that's why I said your audience but it's just right but I'm out there in The Ether I'm out there in the public so whatever I any statements that I make on

Brian Atlasthis podcast are accessible to a great many people whether they're ro potential romantic Partners business partners whatever it may be but you're going to tell a girl either way if she if she asked me sure so you're saying that

Celeste/Madisonsomebody's going to leak his body count well it doesn't matter is my point because she's going to find out either way oh like the like for future Partners yeah it's better to disclose to a partner then a bunch of half a

Brian Atlasmillion yeah you know it's uh plus I need to be a little I need to have uh an air of mystery about you know I can't they can't the viewers can't think you

Brian Atlasknow that certain things things about me so is whatever podcast uh body count I've never revealed it I have never revealed it um is that it is that the the what else what else she got what

Brian Atlaselse she got for us you said you disagreed about everything I didn't say everything let me look let me look I said most things okay you disagreed

Brian Atlasabout most things let me just see uh wait hold on okay yeah you mentioned that the body count thing you said that you disagree

Brian Atlaswith the women only dating up comment yeah okay what do you mean well I don't think women only date up I think it's plain and simple well hypergamy is just the rule in general like if you I don't

Brian AtlasI don't recall the exact uh the exact number but women for example overwhelmingly I think it's like 93% of women uh date men who earn more than them yeah but I you are generalizing I

Andrew Wilsonjust I just don't think it's true though you don't think it's umy Ru it's a general statement right so hyp when we talking about hypergamy you're not saying all uh nothing's exists inside of a monolith there's always going to be

Andrew Wilsonexceptions to every rule it's the exception that proves the rule in this case so like if I were to ask you if all things were equal let's assume for a second you had two perfect clones one

Andrew Wilsonman uh you you like the personality in other words and it was perfect clone but one of the Clones had millions of dollars and lots of really nice and the other one didn't wouldn't you pick the one that had the really nice

JoJoand the million dollars but then that goes on another level of like what mental they're at like are are they also like not go all things are equal they're the exact same

TTS/Donationsthe only distinction then that one has a lot more sh donated $100 body count doesn't necessarily matter overall women just need to understand that if you sacrifice your

JoJoown body you don't qualify for a higher caliber man high status tall handsome leader tall is crazy that'sall is crazy

JoJooh short Kings out there that's rough Pretty Woman 5'8 yeah 5'8 do you have a hyp preference at all no no you did a guy shorter than you I did my you

Andrew Wilsondid my One X okay there you have it but did you guys want to continue with your yeah I yeah if if you don't mind so I I guess the the point is just to say that the option is available if

Andrew Wilsonyou have two men who are roughly equal uh in your eyes as far as personality and things like this go they're both pursuing you but one has an amount of resources which is far superior to the

Andrew Wilsonother wouldn't you generally go with the one that has a lot more in the way of resources of course yeah well I mean that's that's basically all the descriptor of hypergamy is is that men

Andrew Wilsondon't differ particularly too much between man to man other than perhaps in looks height differentials things like this but if you have them and they're close enough and one has a lot more resources than another generally

Andrew Wilsonspeaking women seem to go for the one that has more resources that's the point I don't know because because you

JoJosaid men are generally like similar right I that's kind of a crazy statement why cuz that's not true like it depending on where you are in life and

JoJoit's just your surroundings on who you meet like I'm not going and seeking like seeking these really wealthy men or looking for these wealthy men it's just who's who's around me right so like but we're we're not saying that you are

Andrew Wilsonthough the the point isn't to say that you're actively seeking or gold digging there's plenty of women who don't actively seek and gold di the point is just to show that if the options are

Andrew Wilsonavailable even if a a man could maybe perhaps be uh I don't know slightly better on the personality but just slightly less better looking and have have more money than the alternative just saying that the chances that the

JoJowoman will go for the alternative becomes much higher well doesn't that stand to reason well there's vice versa if it's the same woman the same thing with a man like a man would it doesn't doesn't

Andrew Wilsonseem to necessarily be the same case for men so men men seem to not seek women out specifically for resources or vice versa or I mean I'm or whereas vice versa that does seem to be the case is

JoJowhat I mean well Le let's let's pretend that it's old money say like I know there's a lot of problems with certain like men where they're like oh I don't want a working woman let's pretend it's

JoJoold money and she inherited that and it's two of the exact same and one has tons of money and the other doesn't would you you would also date the woman with tons of money you mean if all

Andrew Wilsonthings were equal were the exact same woman yeah yeah sure um and I think every man would say that that's true yeah but the point the the the point here is the reason we start with all

Andrew Wilsonthings equal is just to break down okay okay you and I are in agreement that if there's resources which are added it does add value right the distinction here for hypergamy is just to say that

Andrew Wilsonwomen seem to seek that value out a lot more than men do that's the point just generally it's not always the case but it's just generally the case but do you also we start we so we start even I agree with you for men and women that

JoJowould that would matter to a degree just think it matters a lot more to women and this is what we see in the data and the trends but do you think that that's trending downwards as like newer

Andrew WilsonGenerations no it seems not to be trending downwards as materialism Trends upwards it seems that we have more of this problem not less of this problem so I mean absent

Andrew Wilsonmaterialism if if men have lots of resources and you can net a man who has lots of resources wouldn't that be your preference whereas for men if you ask them that question they say some say yes but most say not really it's not really

Andrew Wilsonthe thing that they're after is resources mostly after things like Beauty the ability to become a good mother uh things like this they're not really after your resources so you're

JoJosaying Jen Z gen Alpha are answering that answering what saying that they are still seeking out women who are good Mothers and beautiful that's still gen Z

Andrew Wilsongenen out yeah well Jen gen Z is actually Trends more conservative in the smaller percentile so yeah they do tend to answer that way interestingly enough as Millennials get older in PRI change

Celestethe same thing men seem to answer that way then as well may I add something so I agree with the initial statement that women

Celestetypically look for men that um can resour yeah exactly so but I think where you're coming from is that like if you were to typically ask any woman in this

Celestegeneration they're not going to say that outright um Plus in the dating world there's not really typically a lot of oh there's not really typically a lot of

Andrew Wilsonsuitors that bring that to the table as far as resources go yeah that's why we have such a lopsided issue which is that as as women are able to make a make more

Andrew Wilsonand more and more money especially in Resident Fields like the medical field things like this uh men as the provider of resources this has actually taken the market and flipped it on its head so now

Andrew Wilsonthere's actually a lot less men who are desirable from the biological trend of women so they're still looking for men who make higher resources but right now women make a lot in the way of the

Andrew Wilsonmarketplace when it comes to money home ownership there's actually more homeowners who are single and there will be more homeowners who are married uh in

Andrew Wilsonjust 10 years who are women so over men which is which is crazy so all all that hypergamy is looking at is saying listen one of the big problems in the dating

Andrew WilsonMarket is as women's resources drastically increase you start to see that uh the lopsided uh way that they pick men has moved to a smaller and

Celestesmaller percentage that's the point so wouldn't that kind of contradict itself that women since it's Lo like it flipped its side on its head now that grid One

TTS/DonationsMotorsports donated $100 seems simple men will not leave hot poor women to date ugly rich women women will leave an attractive poor man to

Brian Atlasdate ugly rich men 100 % Brian next time you need a remote input me in coach hey grid one good to see you in the chat man thank you for your uh TTS appreciate it

Celesteman gri one is awesome uh anyway what's the uh what's the contradiction you see so that women like that you just said the market kind of flipped itself on its

Celestehead so women are you know creating their own resources so now wouldn't that mean that women are not seeking men for resources anymore cuz that what's

Andrew Wilsoninteresting about this trend is it makes my point not yours which is that as the market flips itself on the head and women are able to increase their resources they seem to be vying for a smaller pool of men who have more

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