HEATED DEBATE! She Got Her Ex DEPORTED?! Excommunicated Mormon/LDS?! Woke E-GIRL?! | Dating Talk 289

Date: 2026-04-06

Duration: 11h 01m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBarbara Adamson >

AAngelica (DC)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Joy(guest)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Emily Mack(guest)

SPEAKER_03Frankie(guest)

SPEAKER_04Angelica (DC)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Ally(guest)

SPEAKER_06Abby(guest)

SPEAKER_09Riley Nimi(guest)

SPEAKER_10Griselda(guest)

SPEAKER_11Barbara Adamson(guest)

SPEAKER_12Anna(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lii(guest)

SPEAKER_14Hannah(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 13 guests introduce themselves - largest panel ever

Key MomentGriselda reveals she crossed the Rio Grande illegally as a minor

ControversyRiley proposes shooting anyone who crosses the border

Key MomentAngelica reveals she lied about being engaged - actually married

Key MomentAlly reveals boyfriend strangled her on shrooms, she stayed with him

Key MomentHannah excommunicated from LDS church in high school

Key MomentAnna unknowingly dated a Craigslist killer

OtherLongest Whatever stream ever - approaching 11 hours

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

13 guests including Riley Nimi (conservative), Griselda (Mexican immigrant), Hannah, Anna (Marine vet), and many more. Longest Whatever stream ever (~11 hours).

Griselda Immigration Story

Crossed the Rio Grande illegally as a minor brought by father. Now has green card through marriage.

Riley Proposes Shooting Border Crossers

Controversial immigration solution sparks strong panel reaction.

Angelica Reveals She Is Actually Married

Lied about being engaged; actually married ~2 years with more money than husband.

Ally Boyfriend Strangled Her on Shrooms

Boyfriend had drug-induced psychosis, strangled her one month into relationship. She stayed.

Hannah LDS Excommunication

Excommunicated from Mormon church in high school for intimacy with boyfriend.

Anna Craigslist Killer Date

Unknowingly dated a Craigslist killer in San Diego.

Rapid Fire Trivia

Panel struggles with basic geography and history. Someone says Hitler ruled Poland.

Show Wrap - Longest Stream Ever

Show wraps after approaching 11 hours.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> This is wonderful. Why? Why? Why would like why don't I like white boys? >> You don't you don't date black guys? >> No. >> Why is that? Have you ever dated a black guy? >> Riley can give you a lot of reason.

Brian Atlas>> Black guy. Yeah. >> Can you name some reason? Repeat it. >> I've talked to a black guy. Like >> did you smash? >> Yeah. >> But I wouldn't I wouldn't date one. >> Wait. So, but are do you just like it's not your preference? You don't find them

Angelica (DC)attractive or >> I guess it's both of those. Like I used to like them and then I kind of grew out of it. So I like I'm like whites and >> what made you grow out of it? >> You used to like women? >> No, whites. >> Oh, okay. >> Unless you said women, too.

Riley Nimi>> What made you grow out of black men and not like them? >> I don't know. I just I just like grew out of it. I don't know. >> See, I'm not allowed to be racist anymore. I got called out for it. Yeah, I guess it just like I don't think

Brian Atlasthey're like ugly. I just >> Wait, so here a couple questions for you. Uh, >> so you're black. >> Uhhuh. Would you would you rather right

Brian AtlasI don't know maybe just wanted to um would you rather date a black person or hold on let me rephrase this. Would you rather date a black man or a white man?

Brian Atlas>> A white man. >> For real. >> Would you rather date a black man or an Asian man? >> Asian man. >> Would you rather date a black man or a Latino man? >> Latino man.

Brian Atlas>> Would you rather date a black man or a Indian man? Yo yo yo. Why are Indian idiots? >> Oh my god. I'm going to give it to you. >> That face. >> I'm going to give it to you. You're

Brian Atlasgoing to feel my Pakistani. >> I had to go. I had to go with the black guy. >> The black eye. >> Okay. Wait. Wait. I got more. >> I got more. >> Damn. >> Would you rather date a black man or a

Riley NimiNative American man? >> Native American. >> I'm trying to think what other >> being an eagle spirit. Original. >> That's black basically. >> Really? Wait. Well, it's Australian Aboriginal. >> Australian, I think, honestly. Yeah, I

Brian Atlasthink that's all the races. >> Uh, no, I feel like Asian, but it's not Asian. >> American black or African black? >> Oh. Uh, would you rather would you

Angelica (DC)rather date a black man or a Arabic man? >> Muslim or not Muslim? >> Yeah, >> just Arabic. >> Arab.

Angelica (DC)>> Arabic's a language. Sorry. Continue. An Arab. >> Arab. Arab. Arab. >> Arab. >> An Arab. Arab. >> Arab. >> Or a black man. >> An Arab. >> An Arab. >> Or a black man.

Lii>> Yeah. >> I don't really know what Arab. >> I'm going take. >> Do they look like an Asian or something? >> They're actually very good-looking men, but >> Arab. I never had that before.

Brian Atlas>> All right. Okay. Interesting. >> Uh, I feel like I should ask you this question, too. Do you have a racial dating preference >> in the target zone? >> I don't have a preference. >> Okay. Riley, >> I don't have a preference, >> but Okay. Would you rather date uh have

Brian Atlasyou dated black men? >> Yes, I've dated black men. >> Um wait, you're Are you in a relationship right now or? >> Yes, I'm in a relationship. >> Is it with a black man? White man? >> If I said white man, would it interest

Brian Atlasyou? >> No, I'm just asking. It's a black guy. >> Okay. Um would you prefer to date a black man or a white man? >> How much money do they make?

Frankie>> Uh >> what is the credit score? They make the same. >> This is kind of hard. I've never never fully >> You've never met a black guy who made

Riley Nimithe same as a white man? >> No. Relationship. >> I want to say a black man. Yeah. >> Wait, can I take it up a notch with this?

Riley Nimi>> No. It's not bad. It's not bad. Let me say it's not bad. It's not bad. It's not bad. Okay. Africanamean or African African? What the [ __ ] >> No, there's a big difference. I have

Riley Nimigotten along. I've gotten along with African Africans so much. I would say like a Nigerian. >> Like a Nigerian. >> If it I would probably say over African African over Africanamean. Yeah. >> Interesting. >> Okay. >> Interesting. Huh.

Anna>> No, Nigerian. >> They're so much nicer. >> Nigerians are awesome. I love Nigerian. >> Well, you lived in Africa for a little bit. >> See, I I love black people. I I love them. They're wonderful. Especially the Nigerians. >> Even though you don't have any friends.

Lii>> Happy black friend. I had to fix it. I know that's what I think you're just trying to save yourself. >> Uh, okay. Um, it's too late >> here. Moving on. Uh, something else from the questionnaire.

Lii>> Wait, I'm seeing the man me. >> Oh, the pictures. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. My bad. Let's continue. >> Oh my god. >> I got to >> You look like What's that guy? >> I feel like they altered my face. >> Look, they gave you acne, but your

Frankieskin's clear. Like, what? >> Oh my gosh. Well, the guy that dated Kim Kardashian, Pete Davis, that's looks like a black version of or a light-skinned version of Pete. >> I like Mexican men. >> Huh? >> I like Mexican men. So, no.

Anna>> I mean, he >> he's a good looking guy. Yes, for sure. >> So fruity. >> There's potential. >> There's white Mexicans. >> That man is fully white. >> No, there's white Mexicans. >> There are white. >> Look at his facial. That's That's Nordic.

Angelica (DC)>> Next. >> It's giving my brother. >> No, that actually does look like my brother. >> Oh, no. That's so good. >> That's hideous. That's not even my looks match. No, that's No, that's that's incorrect. Error. Bad.

Lii>> Okay, next. >> Smash. No, I'm kidding. >> Oh, actually, you look like a like a flight attendant. >> YOU'RE A sexual flight attendant. >> That face does not look natural.

Riley Nimi>> I might go gay. >> I think it's AI. >> See, here's the thing. Women can transition into a man very easily and sometimes it's passable. This is direct evidence that all these transgenders trying to transition into woman. It's

Riley Nimiimpossible. Even with AI, you can't do it. That wasn't attractive. You were a beautiful. >> Yes, it was. Look at that. >> No, it was not. Look, I get the left picture. I I get what you're saying about the left picture, but the very right picture, I don't think so.

Anna>> Brian, would you smash? >> Smasher pass. >> She does your laundry. She did your laundry in the first night. Huge labia. Huge. >> Literally just looks like him with a wig on. >> They made his cheeks like slightly

Barbara Adamsonpuffier. Like the face is like shrunk by like 20%. >> Why did your face look so skinny in the first picture? >> You have to answer. >> OMG smasher passina tomboy.

Lii>> You look like you were on Orange is the new black. >> You were definitely on the field hockey. >> I think very cute. Very natural. I feel like it's made you look better before. This one I think is good. >> That is true. I have the >> I still think she's cute. >> Yeah, she

Brian Atlas>> Do you think she has a big labia? >> She's the main character. Yes. Wait, speaking of big labia, um, it would pass over. Yeah. Uh, who here has a big labia?

Brian Atlas>> Well, we all know not me anymore. >> How do you How do you know what's big? >> I have a big compared to you. Let's just say Audi. Who here has an Audi? Leia.

Brian Atlas>> Brian is fishing for his future wife. >> Why are you looking at me like that? >> I know. You were asking me some questions earlier. I got an impression. >> You wanted to smash your ass. What is the impression my partner to know? >> Okay. >> I like how he ranked Hannah the highest on the looks question and then he

Annadirectly answered >> big lobia. >> Wait, can you can you answer this? What determines like you said you look at a woman and you're like I got big labia vibe. It's like what gives you the big labia vibe? Like what is it in a woman that gives you the big labia vi vibe?

Brian Atlas>> It's the it's >> like we testosterone >> we get big dick energy. Like what's be energy? >> Look, I got to be honest. It's it's not 100%. It's not a science, okay?

Brian AtlasSometimes I've been pleasantly surprised and sometimes I've been way off the mark. I will say, uh, I can't even pinpoint it. It's just the vibe, yo. >> Like, I just get a vibe. Sometimes I can

Brian Atlaslook at a woman, I'm like, but other times I've been like, I thought I had her pegged. No, wait. >> Pause. >> And then >> and I and I was totally wrong. And I was

Angelica (DC)like, she gave me big laby energy, but she had like a a a crate like a just an innie >> happens. >> It's like the >> You don't like the Charles Xavier of vaginas. Basically, it's just like trying to summon the mental energy.

Brian Atlas>> I have been doing research, my own research on this subject and I'm actually writing a book on it. So, >> oh my god, a professional >> a whole book. >> Isn't a dealbreaker for you? Would you have children with an innie? Just cuz it

Annadoes grow after child birth. But would you risk it all and have children with an innie? I >> I don't think you're talking about a child's genitalia. It's a little bit weird. >> You're misunderstanding my question. Why

Brian Atlasis your brain going there? That's weird. >> Um but uh would I >> if she's a really fantastic woman >> does the laundry, you know, >> I'll I'll take one for the team.

Anna>> Oh my god. >> I'll take one for the team. >> It can grow. There's a chance. It does happen. >> No, it doesn't. like maybe a teeny bit, but like getting >> that's why I had mine chopped off

Annabecause during birth it hormones change a lot. My nose grew like things grow. >> Dude, so much labia. >> Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. >> A lot of labia. >> Yeah. I mean, >> it's important. It's an important subject. You have a t-shirt, so I'm just

Brian Atlassaying. >> Look, it's not a deal breaker. It's not a deal breaker. Um, but you know, kind of like you know how like a guy who's like 5 foot seven has to make up for it. Okay. Well, he's 5 foot seven, but he's

Brian Atlasrich and blah blah blah, whatever. Like, if a woman has an innie, >> that's most women. >> She really I don't know. It might be 50/50. Uh, she really had, you know, she's got to make up for it is what I'm

Brian Atlassaying. >> Okay. So, how does she do that? >> No, look, it's like a guy with a like a guy with a small dick. Like, >> he's got to make up for it. He's got to make up for it in other ways, right? So, it's like >> it depends on the culture. I respect the

Brian Atlaspreference >> culture, yo. >> Okay, good talking. Uh, next topic then. Uh, y'all keep wanting to talk about this big labia thing. I feel like I don't know. It seems like you guys want to >> Right. You have insecure about seeking affirmations.

Riley Nimi>> They want They're like, "Wait, wait, but but what if it's like what if it's like small? Is that like Okay. Also, where's this application of yours? >> Exactly. >> You want to be his girlfriend? >> What the [ __ ] >> Is that what you're saying? >> Wait, I was imitating you guys.

Brian Atlas>> Wait, it's okay. Uh, >> I don't think anyone here is >> Zelda. Uh, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.

Griselda>> Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I know men are always up for sex, but women are not all the time. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why women might not want to have sex certain days of the week or, you

Griseldaknow, certain days of the month. >> And, you know, again, women are more emotional than men. I know men, you know, even in a marriage, I mean, you know, it's different when you're married. Yes.

Griselda>> But women are more emotional. Sometimes I don't know. Sometimes I don't feel good. Sometimes I, you know, I don't know, something it's going on on my head and I don't want to have sex because for me it's an intimacy. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> So, okay. I think that um >> we're not talking about all the time. We're just talking. >> The question is uh regularly turns them down. So, if the girlfriend is sick or she's not feeling well or maybe she's

Brian Atlasjust having an off day, uh, and she's not in the mood, I think that's totally fine. Uh, however, if you're regularly turning down, uh, then

Angelica (DC)>> I still believe that it shouldn't be a reason for a man to dump a woman. >> I would argue in the same way that Brian brought up the whole, and it's a great example, honestly, the whole bed situation, like that's neglecting a woman's attention and affection

Angelica (DC)theoretically. So, if a woman is neglecting a man sexually, would you be okay if a man was neglecting you with the affection and attention? And if he was, would it be okay for a woman to dump him if she's not me if he's not

Angelica (DC)meeting her emotional needs? >> I Well, I was just going to say I kind of agree. I think your sexual needs, like both men and women's sexual needs are important in a relationship the same way a woman's needs for affection. Like, >> I just don't think women have sexual needs. Not like men. and they have a >> I mean like are you saying like you

Angelica (DC)wouldn't want to have sex with him or you wouldn't even do women have sex with those things those are unstable >> like that's not natural for a no woman is going like at 13 to go to my room

Angelica (DC)with a magazine it's girls are basically thinking I love the guy at 13 >> even if not to the same degree women still have sexual needs >> it's just not real though it is just

Angelica (DC)because you're asexual and I mean I love affection and it's like intimacy for that is affection But it's like when it's a woman's like I have to get off just like a man. I'm like that's just not real. It's just not real with you.

FrankieIt's real. >> I like I like intimacy when it comes to like yes we're going to cuddle. >> You're just tripping. You're actually tripping. Maybe not. It was the right man. Low key. >> If it's okay. And she didn't claim her husband at first. So we know why now.

Angelica (DC)>> Well, I'm also in the same position as Brian. I'm also major in >> Hold on. Let Let her talk. If it's month after month after month when it comes to a girl rejecting the guy, there's a reason. There's an underlying reason

Angelica (DC)that she's rejecting him. >> But then why not break up with him? >> I don't want to [ __ ] >> if I mean it's it's it would be smart to go and ask the health. >> It would be smart to go and ask about

Angelica (DC)that underlying reason, but usually that underlying reason is a reason to break up for most people. This is I mean, but that would still mean that the relationship should break up. >> Wait, hold on. Let me uh I do want to

Brian Atlasget weigh in from some other people here. So, okay. You do say it's wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. I mean, >> yeah. I mean, if they said that's the

Hannahonly motivation. Yeah, I think it's really any woman can cook or clean or fold laundry for your husband. You're the only one that really can be intimate with him. So I feel like that is something that is depriving your husband,

Angelica (DC)>> depriving >> a man of their men need sex period >> and you're depriving now unless you have cancer yourself. The argument is is it okay for him to leave her is the

Brian Atlasquestion. And the counterargument is well if he's not meeting her needs emotionally is it okay for her to leave him. Yes, Angelica raises a good argument here uh as it relates to

Brian Atlaswomen's needs and if the man is not meeting the woman's needs, is it reasonable for the uh woman to leave the man? To which I'm assuming you would say yes. >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> So, the woman's not meeting her her boyfriend or husband's needs. >> I just feel like it's not in the same level the sexual relationship as emotional. >> Wait, can I ask how about this? Um I

Brian Atlaslet's say in this hypothetical my girlfriend wants to uh yap at me for one hour and then you know what and you know what for like maybe she does that every

Brian Atlassingle day but like I turn her down from being able to yap at me six out of seven days of the so only one day. The other days I have a headache. My show is on. I

Riley Nimidon't really want to hear you yap. I'm tired. I mean, I would think, why is she yapping at you? Why? >> Oh my god, it's not like that. But >> yeah, I mean, I would >> It's kind of the default setting, so

Griseldait's self-explanatory. >> But again, it's it's not a good a good example, though. Again, I I I do think that, you know, just dumping your girlfriend or your wife because she's not wanting to have sex with you. I feel

Brian Atlaslike that's wrong because as a man, you should find out what's going on. Well, I do think it is a good example because if and it this can vary from relationship to relationship. Uh if men have a higher

Brian Atlasdesire for sex than the woman does, the woman has a higher desire for attention and uh communication perhaps than the man does. I think most men would be

Brian Atlasmore men would be okay with the following scenario, silence. Whereas women are going to be a bit more desirous of verbal communication, whereas I think most men, like I could

Brian Atlashonestly not talk to my girlfriend for like days on end and be totally fine with it. >> Just cruel. >> I'm actually fine with that, too. >> Okay, great. You're an outlier. Wonderful. >> No, no. I mean, I some most of the time,

Brian Atlasyou know, I prefer silence, too, because >> fine. There's introverted women who are fine with it. Sure. Okay. Well, um I do have to move it on to the next thing. A woman should not be rejected because of

Brian Atlasher weight. To which you agree. Uh Ally, right? Ally, that's your name? Ally? >> Yeah. >> Uh you agree a woman should not be rejected because of her weight. I don't know if anybody else. Uh so why is that?

Brian AtlasWhy should a woman uh not be rejected because of her weight? >> I feel again we're basing that. >> You know what? Let's have her go first. Um,

AbbyI mean, I think all men should be able to have their preference, but at the same time, I don't think that you should be basing people off of just their weight.

Riley Nimi>> Okay. Okay. So, if I have a preference to date a girl that weighs less than me, >> that's okay. >> That's okay. And if like if I don't date women that weigh less than me or sorry, that don't weigh uh Yeah. If I don't

Abbydate women that weigh less than me, that's fine. So then that's me rejecting them. You >> Well, it's whatever. I mean, you're contradicting yourself. It's just whatever you choose, that's all. >> Okay. Yeah. Like rejecting them. I'm choosing to reject them. But so why is

Brian Atlasit wrong? >> Is your argument that if they get fat, you shouldn't dump them over it. >> No. No. It's It's not like within a relationship. Although it could be um that muddies the water a little bit, but

Angelica (DC)it's more so from the get-go. >> True. But she's conceding that she wouldn't do it from the get-go. But I'm wondering if by her logic she means if she's going to get fat if you can dump her then. >> That's where my >> So it's not So okay. So just to be

Brian Atlasclear, just for clarification for both of you, if a woman if a man from the get-go from the jump doesn't want to uh date a woman to date a woman uh because

Brian Atlasshe's overweight to you're totally fine with that. >> Yes and no. Oh my god, you guys are doing a modern daily where it's it's

Brian Atlasyou're you're shifting the goalpost. Um, okay. So, let's start with the more defense I Well, the more the claim that relates more to what's written on the

Brian Atlaspaper. A woman should not be rejected because of her weight. Typically, a rejection would imply an initial encounter. you break up with somebody

Brian Atlasfor for reasons. You're you're not like if you've been dating a girl for six year six years, you're not rejecting her, you're dumping her. So, I think

Brian Atlasusing the terminology reject would imply that there is a uh the timeline here is on the short side.

Brian AtlasSo, okay, I see a girl on a dating app and she's ever say she's perfect. Like her her everything else is perfect. Uh,

Brian Atlasbut she's 300 lb, but like her personality would otherw like her personality would be perfect, but I will not date her because she's

Griselda300 lb. Is that wrong? >> Oh, no. >> I believe it's wrong. >> You believe it's wrong? >> Yes. Why? >> I just again I have dated fat men too

Griseldaand >> Okay. But sorry, go ahead. Continue. >> Yeah. I just believe that basing everything off looks is wrong. Just for all the wrong reason. Yeah. I believe that. I mean I I consider myself like she said I analyze everything about a

Brian Atlasman. >> Would you reject a guy who's 4 foot 11? >> Probably not. I mean I have dated short kings too. >> 11. No. No. No. Hold on. Hold on. I'm gonna hold you to this because this is what you wrote. Minimum height of a man

Brian Atlasyou would you would date. You're 5 foot one. You wrote 5 foot seven. We have to hold you to that standard. >> Okay. >> Lies. >> You wouldn't. So that's minimum height is 5'7. >> I mean I can date less than that. But

Brian Atlasyeah, I mean that will be >> Would you date a guy who's your height? >> I have. >> You have? But is it okay? One time I went on a date with a

Griseldafat chick. It's not my preference. I mean, I can say that it could not be my preference, but I wouldn't just judge judge someone of the way their hide or the look. >> What would actually be wrong with it,

Griseldathough? >> I mean, that's if that's your preference, that's fine. I just think it's not right. I just think that that it's wrong just to judge someone by the way they look. >> But don't you think attraction has to be there in a relationship? >> Yeah, exactly. And if you if like most

Angelica (DC)people like I'm not attracted to like an obese person the same way maybe Brian would be attracted to, you can't help that attraction. So, it's not morally wrong to like have no attraction to a fat person. >> Have you ever rejected a guy at a bar because he just wasn't your type? Like,

Riley Nimiyou're like, "Oh, you're not attractive." Like, no. No, thank you. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. So, you're saying that we are morally wrong for saying, "No, we don't want to date a 300 lb woman who's going to have like like a a diabetes when

Riley Nimishe's pregnant and not be able to give birth." No, no, that's immoral. But like, you're like, "Oh, yeah. I've rejected guys." And, you know, >> Well, but I have the bar. >> Well, to start off, I don't go to bars. So, but yeah, I have rejected guys at different >> based off their looks. >> Yeah. Have you

Riley Nimi>> based off looks? No. Based off of based off how they look. >> So, if a guy was a stunning knight in shining armor, strong jawline, look at these eyebrows like just like this. If he looked just like that, you you wouldn't have rejected him. You would have said, "Oh, yes." You would have

Griseldasaid definitely. >> No. I mean, again, I don't base myself when I date. I don't I don't actually look how I don't If they look good, okay, fine. But, I mean, I'm still going to >> So, it doesn't matter at all. It doesn't matter at all for me. >> Physical attraction is a very important

Griseldaaspect. >> It is it I feel like it is but again not for me. I but you got to think about everyone right even even if >> they're asking me for me it's not. >> So I think this is a no offense. I think you're bullshitting. I think you're

Brian Atlaslying. But even if we were to grant that you care nothing whatsoever about looks and physical appearance. Your own uh preference would not map on to like the vast majority of other

Brian Atlaspeople. And it wouldn't mean that they're wrong for like Yeah. Okay. You um like for example, I like big labia. I don't think it's wrong for a guy to have a genitalia preference to like prefer an innie or whatever.

Griselda>> No wrong. >> I mean it's not wrong. I just you know like I said you that's a question towards me if it's wrong for me. It's wrong for me but not for everybody else I guess. >> No but the qu the statement is not do

Brian Atlasfrom is it wrong for you? It's like a general statement >> for me. I feel >> like for example the question for example uh on the questionnaire question

Brian Atlasuh or statement 24 women are the primary victims of war not men. Have you ever been the victim of war? >> No not here in the states. >> Okay. But so I'm asking you like to

Griseldathink in a more general sense not just strictly about your own >> Okay. If we're talking about like generalize it maybe Yeah. Maybe it's not wrong for a man to have their own preferences. >> I think she's saying it's fine for

Brian Atlaseveryone else. It just feels wrong. >> Okay. So then the less defensible position. I don't even think it's wrong though in a relationship for a man or a woman. I don't have a double standard to break up with their significant other uh

Brian Atlasif they like gain 200 lb. I don't think that would be wrong even in a relationship. Now perhaps you can give a bit of leeway. Perhaps they can correct it, but I don't think it would

Annaactually be wrong. >> For me, it's a health thing in a in a lifestyle. I'm very active. I like to hike. I like to go on my bike. I like to do all the things like talk. >> I can't do I've been sitting here. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. Continue with your

Annapoint. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Just disregard. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Okay. So, anyways, I can't do that with someone who's 300 lb. I can't maintain this lifestyle. I'm also granola and I feel like if you don't care about yourself, why am I supposed to care about yourself? >> And who wants to date a lazy person if

Annayou're extremely overweight? that says that you don't care about yourself or you're lazy or you don't have ambitions and goals. >> Yeah. And I got huge this last pregnancy. I gained over 100 pounds and I lost it. So, and I because I know

Annathat's not my lifestyle. That's not who I am as a person. I just had a baby late in life, but this is my lifestyle and this is what So, if you if your wife or your girlfriend or whatever has a baby, like obviously some little lean weight because it's you get fat sometimes.

Brian Atlas>> Well, no. Okay. So, yeah, if your your girlfriend is pregnant, yeah, of course she's going to put on some weight. Uh right. But I I think uh let's say for example absent a pregnancy uh your

Brian Atlasgirlfriend puts on 200 pounds. I I that's like a massive material change to >> like your level of attractiveness, physical attraction to her. Um now look, the man could also choose to stay with

Brian Atlasher because he loves her. That would be fine, too. But I don't think I would I think I'd be hardressed to actually say that it's wrong for a man >> to break up with his girlfriend because

Brian Atlashe's no longer attracted to her. Women break up with men all the time for a myriad of they fall out of love. They're no longer attracted to the guy. Whatever it might be, the guy changes in one way or the other. People break up. I don't

Riley Nimithink it's wrong to do so. Uh any push back on that from anybody? I guess not. Okay. Uh, somebody Oops. >> Hold on. These guys in the comments. It's like actually insane. Like

Riley Nimi>> I keep calling you team Charlie. I'm here and you're not. Like that just says enough. You're in your bedroom scrolling. Come on. It does says enough. It does say roasted. Why is everyone hating? >> It's funny when the conservative

Angelica (DC)manager. It's just It's just that one person. It makes me laugh for how >> they're doom scrolling in their bed staying up way too late. Yeah. >> They're all in bed and we're here. >> Uh Frankie, you write women are

Brian Atlasoppressed in the USA. Why is that? or you agree with the statement. Anyways, >> listen.

Frankie>> I would agree with it because the propaganda that controls women and that we have to live by is quite oppressive. >> Like Yeah. Like what?

Frankie>> Like for instance, like social media. I feel like we're just so tied to social media in a certain way and it's just kind of like we're kind of groomed into Well, I want to just say social media. There's a lot of things that from the

Frankiebeginning of when we're born, we're just kind of groomed into that we have to do. >> For instance, >> uh Okay. >> For instance, like you saying that if um you invite a woman over and you sleep

Frankiewith her and she does your laundry, like why is it that has to be laundry? Like would you expect a man to do something like that for you? >> I'm not gay. So, >> so no, but I'm just saying like it's just like the types of things that you

Angelica (DC)would think for a woman to do something for you that's kind. You wouldn't expect a man to do something like that. But women expect men to do things for them. >> Well, not only that, but hearkening back to the original point I made before when it comes to social media, they're injecting insecurities in you. So that

Angelica (DC)way you could wear a ton of makeup, go on to Only Fans now, cuz they market it as like just a social media influencer program. It's like if if we're being degraded, it's by the things that men are warning us against. It's not by our own. It's not because they're pushing

Angelica (DC)something onto us. It's because they're trying to keep us away. Those are the things that men are subscribing. I'm not going to specify the group. I'm I'm going to pull a Kanye. I'm not going to say which group of men. That's ridiculous. >> I also think that I think

SPEAKER_07>> Hold on. We have a TTS. >> Daddy Evan donated $200. >> Thank you, Nevin. >> Tamu Kirk is getting hella closeted gay allegations in the chat. Care to respond? Care to elaborate? >> What the [ __ ]

Riley Nimi>> Care to caress a rainbow? >> It said dick. >> This is ridiculous. >> Notice notice how it says allegations and it doesn't say facts, right? It says allegations. It's an allegation, not a fact. >> That's kind of a weak comeback. I'm not

Angelica (DC)going to lie. >> I'm just saying it's it's true. >> Pride Month is coming up soon. >> I think Americans, not to mention being a knockoff of a great man, does that not make you a good man? >> They said they said Desert Desert Jorge,

Brian Atlasplease have Riley back on the pod again. I haven't laughed this hard in ages. Very based and consistent. All right, so it seems like uh you didn't bring enough liberals on. This would be so much better if there's like a bunch of

Annaliberals. Hey, I think Americans tend to use the word oppressed way too much, especially those who don't travel. If you actually leave your bubble, you can see that we are not oppressed, not even the slightest. And and traveling and

Annabeing well, that's why being wellraveled is important. That's why I send my, you know, I took my son to the UK for his high school graduation last year, the first thing he said when he got off the airplane was, you looked around. Mom, I've never been so happy to be an American that I am right now. because it

Liigives you appreciation. >> You said that after the UK whereas where in the UK did you take him chill >> it looks like Iraq. I was terrified. I was terrified. >> I'm British. So I'm just curious. >> When was the last time that you No, like when was the last time I was there?

Angelica (DC)December. >> London. >> It looked London. >> L UK. >> It looked like Iraq. It really did. >> The question also is what affluent parts of the UK are you visiting versus what like accessible affordable parts of >> I've been all around. I've been all

Angelica (DC)around the UK. But I'm just saying we looked around. >> I mean, there's there's certainly poor parts of London, but there's also like poor parts of >> No, London's entirely lost. Wait, completely lost. >> Hold on. Go into my Discord. Go into the

Annaresearch infographics tab. I recently posted some or wait, [ __ ] did I post it? >> Ah, [ __ ] >> The UK is still like a first world. They're arresting people for memes that they post online. That's oppression. Do

Barbara Adamsonthat here. >> Downtown London used to be one of the nicest areas in the entire world. And now it's a [ __ ] show with the Muslims over there. >> It's amazing the Muslims how liberal

Barbara Adamsonembrace Islam without recognizing how oppressive it is to win. >> Yes. And they even do um >> Never mind. >> Never mind. Removal of the clitoris in

SPEAKER_07some countries. >> Brian is very Riley would love that $200. >> Wait, he sent it positive gay thrown his way. Care to respond?

SPEAKER_07>> You said to elaborate to send it twice. >> Care to take Brian on a date and fill his laundry? >> Hold on. Let's see. Okay. Daddy Nevin. Oh, >> wait. Don't. You just said Daddy Ne. >> Okay, whatever.

Riley Nimi>> I can say the words. Well, hold on. It It cut out. It cut out. Hey, Nevin. It cut out. We need you to say the message again. It just cut out. I couldn't I didn't get enough time to read the rest. >> Who wants to read the user again? >> Care to elaborate? Care to explain?

Brian Atlas>> It's funny. >> He wants you. Uh, okay. Um, a few more here from the questioner Shona, really quick. Uh, women are the primary victims of war, not men. You didn't circle it, but you said both are affected in different ways. >> Well, yeah, we've been over this in

Angelica (DC)another episode. Like, men die more often. Death is the worst thing you go through, but I would also say women experience certain types of trauma during war that men don't experience. >> Of course, women do experience bad things in war, but >> certain bad things that men don't.

Anna>> So, is it >> disproportionately? I'm still not saying it's equal, which is why I didn't circle it because men do fight warrior. Wait, wait, wait. Are we talking about because a lot of civilians die in war, too. And maybe that's part of the metric that

Annawhat we're missing here because a lot of women and children are murdered, okay, for no reason. They go out into the streets and I know this because I was in the Marine Corps. I told you those Marines used to come to our unit and like because they were they were on

Annatheir way out the door. And one of the stories they told us is that they were instructed during the battle of Fallujah to go out and shoot, kill everyone, women and children, just literally go out, no rhyme or reason, and murder

Annaeveryone. >> They're just going to What are we talking about when we say do men die more? Do women die? Are we talking about civilians? Are we talking about military? >> We're talking in totality. Um >> I don't know because we're not over there. But I do know that they were instructed to kill everyone.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> I think statistically more men do die. So more men die in war. Uh the majority of soldiers are men. Uh especially those

Brian Atlasthat are seeing combat are men. So while women, whether they're soldiers or civilians, while there are women who are going to have uh negative outcomes

Angelica (DC)during wartime, uh there's more men who face negative outcomes than do women. I do want to say I feel okay like maybe this is controversial but I feel like innocent

Brian Atlascivilians dying during war is a worse scenario than um soldiers dying during war right I think we can agree with that >> yeah even granting that you would still assume like ch the okay so of the children who die that the gender split

Brian Atlaswould be equal there it'd be >> if the civilian split is equal then yeah >> well I don't know if like the it depends on the conflict um so in like the in

Brian Atlaslarge scale wars like World War II two, World War I where like vast swads of the eligible male soldiers were uh were a lot of them were soldiers then a higher

Brian Atlasproportion then yes a higher proportion of uh yeah we're not responding to those uh higher proportion of uh the civilian population adult civilian population

Brian Atlaswill be female >> but even then it's like okay so like how many women how about this >> more female civilians died then in that case women are affected worse in And

Brian Atlasthen it would be like okay it is the case if like let's say um if it is your country that is being bombed then the civilian women are facing uh issues

Brian Atlasthere. But take the United States for example. There's no way in hell during World War II or World War I that you could ever say that at least for uh

Brian AtlasAmericans that women it's ever comparable. it's it could ever be comparable between women and men who

Brian Atlasare Americans because uh aside from Pearl Harbor uh there there wasn't an invasion of the United States. There wasn't bombing campaigns of American

Brian Atlascities. Uh women were not in the trenches during World War I. American women >> uh World War II women were not on the battlefield fighting the Nazis. >> Right? So when it comes to who's

Angelica (DC)fighting the war, men are affected worse. Men are killed more. That's why I didn't circle that. >> Right. >> Right. >> Well, that's the thing is that I I I have that as my biggest problem. It's like there's certain issues like pregnancy that affect women way more. There's certain issues like war that

Angelica (DC)affect men way more. At the end of the day, you can't split them apart cuz even though it affects others more, if one sex is affected, the other one's going to be affected negatively, too. It's like you can't argue like, oh, who's exclusive?

Angelica (DC)>> I will say though, a woman getting a woman getting raped during war affects her more than it affects the man around her. Or say like her husband's already dead. She goes through that. Her daughter goes through that. Like that's suddenly something that's affecting the woman in this scenario, not the men.

Angelica (DC)>> But it demoralizes the men around her, too. That's the thing. She's the primary person around her at that point. >> The men her platoon. The menus already, though. >> That's not her husband. The men, it's not the her husband. It's the men in the

Angelica (DC)platoon are demoralized that one of their own was so violated this way and was impregnated by the enemy. >> They might be demoralized, but it's still affected her worse. >> Yes. But what I'm saying is that the men are also going to the primary victim. Everyone is going to have negative consequences on the sexes. You can't

Annadivide it so easily. >> The same goes for a a male soldier getting killed. That demoralizes the woman at home, too. >> Yes, of course. >> I think you guys know what goes on behind closed doors in in war. I had my

Annafriends watching young Iraqi girls get raped by Iraqi soldiers that are are they were the good guys. >> Nobody's denying that SA and rape happens during wartime. However, if

Brian Atlaswe're doing a comparative analysis between the amount of uh male civilian deaths and male military casualties, uh look, rape is [ __ ] terrible. But my question to you would then be, how many

Brian Atlasmen are you willing to let die to prevent one rape? >> I am against all the wars that are going on. >> Answer the question. How many men are you willing to let die to prevent one rape? >> Death is worse.

Brian AtlasSo, zero. >> Answer the question, though. I just did. >> I'm not willing to let anyone die. >> I would also say that. >> Okay. So then we've done we've made a determination that death, although rape

Brian Atlasis terrible, death is conceivably worse than rape. And if more men die than there are women who are raped, then just on that metric alone, even though it's a bit blunt and o an oversimplification,

Angelica (DC)uh men would thus be the primary victims of war given the higher number of male deaths as compared to female rapes. But that's the thing is that the same people sending men to war are the same ones turning women into like [ __ ] basically. It's it's contrived.

Angelica (DC)>> Bro, what do you what >> literally I don't know how far to go with this. You already know what I'm talking about. I'm like when it comes to the whole war issue, women are not the ones wanting men to go to war. The only people who benefit are multinational corporations that want land. That's why they burned Argentina to get that land.

Angelica (DC)That's why they're getting the Ukrainian Russian war right now. The Russians and the Ukrainians would have not naturally gone to war. We would have never invaded Iran. >> Military-industrial complex. >> Yeah. Exactly. It's like we literally like women do not want their men, nor do men want to go to these contrived wars

Brian Atlasthat literally do not benefit the nation. >> I mean, are you're you're saying the Ukrainian wars because there were like Russian business interests. >> I would say Russian. No, it's not Russianism interests. It's not Russian.

Angelica (DC)>> Wait, wait. You think so? >> It's like Alexander Sultkaniten. I can't pronounce his last name. >> Al Alexander Sultz. Yeah, it is hard. >> I know. I You tried getting me. >> Yeah. Yeah. You can't do it. >> Yeah, I can't do it either.

Brian AtlasSolishkin something like that. >> I can't even pronounce it. Hold on. Um, it's Russian. >> No, it's not Russian. >> Russia invades Ukraine. That's why

Angelica (DC)Russia's been saying war. >> Russia invades Ukraine. >> No, I don't think that's what happened. NATO ended up saying, "Well, Ukraine can be part of NATO." The southern part of Ukraine said, "We don't want to be part of NATO." That's why they ended up

Angelica (DC)bombing the dumbbas. And then they ended up pushing forth this war, which then encroached upon the whole arms deal. I mean, NATO was supposed to be an anti-Russian like whole political organization. >> So, yes. So, you're okay. You're saying

Angelica (DC)that there was provocation towards Russia, but Russia did initiate the land invasion of Ukraine. >> But who was the mastermind behind this whole orchestration? Ukraine's not at fault, and neither is Russian. The Ukrainians have been dying. It's a much

Angelica (DC)bigger plan at foot. The same people who orchestrated NATO and the UN and the World Economic Forum are the ones pushing these wars. Why are we America pushing? It's not America. America's also a puppet. It's like why are men and

Angelica (DC)women fighting when it's like there's a bigger enemy above us putting us together basically. >> I don't know who this enemy is. But anyways,

Angelica (DC)>> what the [ __ ] >> I'm like why exactly are we fighting wars is the issue? Like what merit what resources what invasion did Ukraine do to us? Why are we supporting them? >> So are is this what's your conspiracy? What's your

Angelica (DC)>> that's not a conspiracy. It's literally like factually supporting. So is it >> I'm not allowed to say it. I'm not going to say it. >> Are you saying it's elites? >> Yes. Let's say the satanic pedophilic elites who drink baby's blood are the ones that are doing this.

Brian Atlas>> So just to be clear, all warfare throughout human history has been uh it it hasn't been for like various geopolitical reasons or like land disputes, >> especially during the 20th century. No, I think it's all been a bankromoted conspiracy.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So like if we go back to the 15 like the 1500s when France and uh England were waring with each other. No, that was a natural one. >> It was the satanic. >> No, she did say the 20th century. >> Okay, so you're saying it's a modern.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Okay, but can hold on, hold on. But let me test the logic here a little bit. So, um, what were the justifications for wars previously? >> What you said geographically?

Brian Atlas>> Is it then? Thus, is it look, and I'll know the validity validity of your claims, is it possible that modern-day military conflicts could be due to the same historical reasons for war? >> No.

Angelica (DC)>> Well, not for our involvement. How are we expanding into the Middle East? We're not. We're not even promoting Christian values over there. Even though we're supposedly a Christian nation, as Shauna ended up trying to allude to. It's like we have like literally no business in anyone else's country, not Venezuela.

Angelica (DC)Although it is nice cuz it is one. >> Look, I I don't think the US should be involved in in any of this [ __ ] But um >> but then why are we going to war when it doesn't benefit anyone? Like it's literally nonsense warn. Yeah. It's like why are we funding ourselves?

Riley Nimi>> Like sure, Russia would want the land grab of Ukraine because you know most of Russia's crab for for Russia though. >> But if that's the case Russia do what Russia's going to do. I don't care. It's way over there. >> We should put our resources in the Western Hemisphere. We're going to spend

Brian Atlasthis is not my wheelhouse. The the geopolitical war stuff. So I mean I I'm not sure I could give particularly knowledgeable uh answers on this. I mean my understanding obviously the United

Brian AtlasStates is uh is aligned with with the West. It's aligned with NATO aligned with Europe >> and and so uh you know I mean we have historical conflict with uh Russia

Brian Atlasespecially when it was the USSR. My understanding though is that there was this push for Ukraine to get involved with uh NATO, right? Is that correct?

Brian AtlasAnd uh from Putin's perspective, he's like, "Okay, this is creating like an untenable position for us to basically like have NATO uh in our front yard."

Brian AtlasBasically, that's my understanding of it. Maybe that's like super simplistic, but anyways, let's I I'll move it on back to dating. Um let's see. Uh hold on. We have to do this. I want to wait

Brian Atlasuntil she's back. Let's do this, though. Uh okay. Men should provide. Men should be chivalous. H h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h husband should be willing to die protecting uh you will keep your last name. >> I think we've talked about that. >> I don't know what I'mma do.

Brian Atlas>> Well, you did say you circled I will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage. >> My hyphenate might keep my last name protect men should be chivalous. Husband should be willing to die but you won't take his last name. I'm seeing if

Angelica (DC)anybody else >> can I can I say something about that? When it comes to these things of like paying for dates, being chivalous, I don't I don't insert shoulds and expectations. What I think though is like, okay, if I have options of different men, maybe this one's not

Angelica (DC)willing to pay. There is one who is willing to pay and who is willing to act. Why would I just not choose the better one? >> That's my whole thing. It's just what you said about the laundry. >> It's nice. It got options. >> Okay. Oh, yeah. Sure. Um, okay. Uh, Joy,

Brian Atlasmen should pay on first dates. Men should provide, protect. husband should be willing to die protecting you. You're gonna keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage. Why is that?

Angelica (DC)>> Um, not keep it, but hyphenate it due to me being the only girl. So, I would >> Does he have to hyphenate his last name? >> No, I meant hyphen. >> And what about the kids? Do they get his last name or do they hyphenate?

Brian Atlas>> No, they get his. >> Okay, that's somewhat better. >> I keep mine. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Uh, Anna, men should pay on first dates. Men should provide protect. Men should be chivalous. Husband should be willing to die

Annaprotecting you. You will keep your last name or hyphen in marriage. Why is that? >> I did change it when I was married, but this time my youngest has my last name. He's the one to carry on my family's last name. Like that's it. The buck

Annastops here. So I kind of want to keep it for him, but if he chooses to change his last name to his father's, that's his decision. And then >> maybe I would reconsider changing my last name. >> So you've done it previously, but no, you kind of don't want to do that.

Brian Atlas>> All right. Um, most of you, I think almost all of you, husbands should be willing to die protecting you. I think everyone answered that. Uh, everyone, me personally, this is probably the take

Brian Atlasthat gets everyone pissed off, including the conservatives. I uh, you know what? >> And I somewhat do this to Rage Bay a little bit, but [ __ ] it. Why not? I

Angelica (DC)don't think the the man should sacrifice his life for the woman. >> Makes sense as an atheist. It's like your life is first, second, and third. >> Oh, you you want your husband to die for you >> if it comes to that to that instance?

Brian AtlasYes. >> Because I feel like asking someone to [ __ ] die for you is a bigger ask than >> Well, but I mean, but that's really >> I want to bow. I want her to fold my laundry. She should be a little

Griseldasubmissive. That's easy compared to dying. >> Yeah. But I mean, we're talking something really hypothetically. But if that comes to that instance, yes, I would. My and my husband has told me, you know, he's like, I will die for you. Like it's something.

Griselda>> Well, >> if you were 300 lb, would you lose the weight for >> That's beautiful that he loves her that much even. >> No, I mean, I don't think that's not a loser, though. I feel like that's for him. >> No, that's a high value for me. >> He's not a loser, but it's an L that he

Griseldawould die. >> He's a For me, that's a high value man. Again, it's different cultures. I I >> I think that's a high value woman that she would die for me. Well, you see, I mean,

Griselda>> she dies for me, so I keep going. >> I mean, again, I think if it comes to that instance, you know, that we have to choose between both of us. I mean, I probably also will say, "Yeah, I can die for my husband, you know, if it comes to

Angelica (DC)that instance because I'm, again, this is a 50/50." But, I mean, yeah. >> Yeah. >> In marriage, you died for each other or you died to each other in this realm basically saying, "I'm not going to have my ego anymore. I'm going to be everything that you

Angelica (DC)>> Yeah, that's not what we're talking about, though." Yeah, but then it even more so in the physical realm, women do die for their husbands in several contexts. >> Man doesn't want to protect me at birth, but it's just like in general, it's just

Angelica (DC)there was that Well, it's going to be anecdotal, but there was that one case with George Harrison and his wife where she ended up lunging on the man that was trying to kill him. She bashed him in the head with a lamp and he was like already stabbed on the floor 27 times. >> Did he die? >> No, but he almost did and it actually

Angelica (DC)contributed to his death. >> Her jumping on him? No, her the guy who broke into his house, stabbed him 27 times and she attacked him. She lunged on him with the lamp and then basically knocked him out, >> but he was already on the ground.

Brian Atlas>> So, there's plenty of cases where women are basically being that way. In fact, I would say that that's average. >> Yeah. Well, there's a couple differences here. First off, um, so there's an expectation on men to be willing to,

Brian Atlaseven if I grant that it's really unlikely that for most relationships or marriages that there's ever going to be some sort of crazy scenario where one or the other person has to die or the man has to be willing to sacrifice himself.

Brian AtlasA man's unwillingness to do so, like a man who's a coward, a man who wouldn't be willing to sacrifice himself will be really harshly and negatively assessed

Brian Atlasby women to the point that I think a lot of women if they were aware of this. Like me, most men are probably not going to disclose this even if it's the case.

Brian AtlasUh it's a major turnoff for most women. Oh, he's a coward. He's a coward. No, I don't want to date a coward. massive ick for women if the guy's a [ __ ] or a [ __ ] or whatever. Huge.

Brian AtlasHuge. Right. So, even and sometimes women will will say, "Well, I'd be willing to die for him." It's different though because there isn't there isn't a social expectation on you. There isn't a

Brian Atlasrelation relational expectation on women to do this. And even if the woman was like, "Uh, oh my god, if if there was a home intruder, I'd just like run and like hide under the bed." Like the man

Brian Atlaswouldn't lose attraction for the woman doing that. Um it wouldn't he wouldn't lose attraction for her. Whereas like a man said that oh I'm just going to hide under the bed and hope they don't find us. Like a woman's going to have massive

Brian Atlasick. It's probably the end of the relationship. >> Absolutely. >> And like for example if uh you're out with your boyfriend and he loses in a fight or something very high. It's not like to the circumstances are going to

Brian Atlasmatter in this. Um, a woman's like going to lose attraction for a guy if she sees him get sparked up in the street fight. She's going to lose. She He She sees him doing the fencing position and he's [ __ ] knocked out. >> She's That relationship might as well be

Brian Atlasover. >> Not necessarily. Let's just say >> there's a there's a uh a time limit on that relationship. Now, if a woman's seen her boyfriend get knocked out, it's over within six months. >> Not necessarily, because let's just say if he's fighting >> Not in all instances, but go ahead. If

Griseldaif he's fighting someone, let's just say because this other man disrespected me. If he's fighting this other man, let's just say this other man knocks him out. Yeah. I will consider still my man that he's a really strong man. You know, even though because he's defending me, you

Angelica (DC)know, >> if a man gets knocked out, typically that'll also prompt in some women a nurturing complex where they want to take care of the man who's down and out. Like >> absolutely. He was he was trying to protect me or taking care of me. No, I wouldn't I mean

AnnaI disagree totally with what you said because for me it will actually it will still be in >> get get brain damage for your girlfriend. Um >> Brian, would you say you met the woman of your dreams? You have seven kids. You're all sleeping in a house. There's

Annaarm robbery that comes on. You grab your gun. Would you go out there and and take on those people? >> So the the threat is directed at me, >> your family, >> her, and my children. So yes, my family in totality.

Brian Atlas>> So you would lay your life down. Uh well, so I I would but I mean if I was living alone in the house, I would also take steps to uh protect myself. So it's

Brian Atlaslike I would do it anyways, but um I guess this is more so of a hypothetical scenario. Maybe I should paint it differently like uh like I don't know if somebody has to take the bullet or whatever.

Anna>> You got the girl in the guest bedroom >> cuz it is a massive pick. Like if a guy is shivering under a bed while there's an arm robbering, you're letting me like deal with it. That's a nick. Like you >> right. It's a nick. But it's like So I I

Brian Atlasguess ultimately though, um how about this though? In a scenario where uh somebody has to die. Somebody has to die. What the [ __ ] Dollar maxing. That's

Brian Atlasfunny. Uh so >> how about this? Uh there is a boat. You're on a boat with your wife and there's only one life preserver. And in

Brian Atlasthis scenario, you the life preserver is necessary to survive. There is no loopholes. Uh you can't like uh hang on to her. You can't swim indefinitely.

Brian AtlasWhoever gets the life preserver lives. Whoever doesn't get it dies. No loopholes. Who should get the life preserver? So you're on a boat with just your wife. >> The woman. The woman. >> Who should get the life preserver?

Angelica (DC)>> The woman. >> Sorry, I kind of zoned out for a second. Is is there any children involved in this scenario? >> No, >> just man and a woman. >> But you're married or boyfriend? >> Uh I think the man probably has a higher chance of being able to like swim in the

Brian Atlaswater and survive. >> It's granted that in the hypothetical only one person can survive. There are no loopholes to Well, he'll just he'll just tread water for 3 hours. No.

Brian AtlasWhoever has a life preserver, there's only one. Only one person can survive. >> Who gets the life preserver? >> Am I in this relationship? >> Yes. It's you and your boyfriend in a boat. I'll like Okay. The same way I

Brian Atlassaid I would want my man to like lay down his life for me, I'd be willing to do it for him. So, I would be willing to give it to him. >> Okay. So, you would do it in that scenario. Okay. You said the man should do it. >> Mhm. I' I'd give it

Frankie>> You'd give it to the man. Okay. >> The woman should take the preserver. >> Okay. >> The woman should take Are we talking about Titanic? >> Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking they did it in the Titanic >> sort of.

Hannah>> Okay. And I have to choose between me and my partner. >> Yeah, he can have it. >> Okay. What about you? >> Yeah, if it's between me and my partner, it'd be easy for I think for me to say you can take Oh, sorry. You can take it.

HannahHe can take it. >> Okay. But if he actually took it, would you be like, >> "Yeah, I'd be like, "Dang, that's kind of messed up." >> For real. >> Okay. What about you? >> Same. >> Uh, the man. >> Okay. What about you?

Anna>> The woman. Just like it would be an ick if a guy is shivering under a bed when when an armed robbery comes in. What about you? >> I'm too codependent. I would have to die with him or he takes it. I can't do it. >> There's no loopholes. >> I'm not saying I would die. I would give it to him. >> Okay. Uh, right.

Riley Nimi>> Oh, the woman should take it. >> The woman should take it. Okay. >> But, but I wanted to ask you, so you disagree, right? >> Uh, wait. Oh, the woman should take the life. >> Yeah. Yeah. That you wouldn't die for the your wife, right?

Anna>> No. Would you die for your daughter? >> Oh, heartbeat. And yeah. >> Let me debate. This is crazy. So you're

Annareally impregnated a woman seven times everyone SHOULD BE THROW HER out on a boat. I mean, what incentive? >> So, okay. So, in the situation where it's my daughter, >> two three-year-old daughter, look, she's so cute.

Anna>> Pretty [ __ ] up. >> You can't you cannot go on you cannot go on that very quick response. >> Well, I think it is in the middle of the ocean because I have kids. >> Well, so so hold on. It's like >> when you become a parent,

Brian Atlas>> look, I would do anything for, you know, for my children, almost anything. I would not die though. Not die. >> I would do anything. He's taking another feminist down. >> I mean, drowning kind of sucks. She's She's Well, she's

Anna>> So, you want the woman who you've impregnated seven times to get off the boat >> to defend. >> Well, hold on. Hold on. Let me Let me not >> Yeah. No one's going to be DMing you 10 times a day, Brian. >> I don't care. Hey, maybe I'm rage baiting on your future daughter.

Anna>> But, uh, >> give me seven kids. Get out of this boat right now. >> No one. No. >> But if it's all of your kids, then yes, cuz you said you would go out and attack the robber inside of your house.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, of course. It's not like I would just kind as many steps as I could to like >> to protect to a point. >> You would like out aim the >> That's your man. That's a duty as a man. Sorry. It is. You are stronger than us

Brian Atlasphysically, mentally, just like war. >> Wait, how about this really quick? How about uh really quick, but I I I will give some explanation. >> Now, it's not you and your boyfriend on the boat. It's another couple. And you

Brian Atlassomehow you can't do anything to intervene. you're not able to help them, but uh you wi you're witnessing it. Who would you judge more harshly? Uh assuming like uh assuming they're deciding this I don't

Brian Atlasknow if they're deciding it democratically. Obviously the man through force could like [ __ ] take the life preserver and be like [ __ ] you. Um but let's say they who would you judge more harshly for

Angelica (DC)picking themselves to survive, the man or the woman? >> The man. Obviously. >> Okay. I need to see like who would be able to take better care of the kids. >> There's no kids.

Brian AtlasThere's no kids. Who would you judge more harshly for choosing to pick? >> I would say the life. >> I would say the man because the fact that he's physically stronger adds like an undercurrent to that like >> but you know >> both of them are one of them dies no

Angelica (DC)matter what. So just because he's stronger doesn't mean he's like can swim long. Like he's dead. >> The stronger person choosing themselves over the weaker person just has a worse look. It just has a worse.

Anna>> It's giving beta >> a little bit. A little bit like shiver. You're gonna like roll away from the woman that gave you >> children. >> You judge the man harsher. >> I judge the man. >> Judge the man harsher. >> The man. The man harsher. The man.

Angelica (DC)>> The man. >> Titanic really makes me upset. But the man. Definitely the man. Man. >> You judge it harsher. >> Mhm. The man. >> I actually don't know. I don't know. Probably the man. I don't know. >> Riley, what about you? Who do you judge

Annaharsher? >> The boy. because that's not a man. Ah, okay. >> Thank you for that. >> Now, you you mentioned it's beta beta. >> Who do you who do you judge? >> I'm just thinking about like some guy shiver shivering away on a boat while

Annayou're just like leaving your woman up like just like get out of here like and you want me to do your laundry. No, >> you didn't answer the question. You seven kids you roll away in a boat. >> Yeah, you never asked the answer the

Brian Atlasquestion. I'll get to it. >> The DMs are going to stop. >> Okay. So, you say it's beta for the man to do this? I actually think, by the way, I think the alpha beta thing is [ __ ] lame. Any guy who calls himself

Brian Atlasalpha, it's super lame. It's cringe. Never call yourself an alpha male, that's super lame. But using that that metric, alpha, beta, beta male, alpha

Brian Atlasmale. I actually think it's more alpha for the man to survive. And I'll tell you why. Genghask Khan, the Mongolian

Brian Atlasconqueror, who by the way, Genghask Khan, uh, the Mongolian king or emperor, whatever, I don't know what the exact terminology is, was for his title, who

Brian Atlashad the largest and to this day, the largest contiguous land empire in all of

Brian Atlashuman history, who just wanttonly killed swas, millions of people.

Brian AtlasHe had dozens of concubines. He had many multiple wives. >> Was it consensual? >> Hold on. No, that's irrelevant. >> Objection. Relevance.

Brian AtlasUh, objection sustained. Wait, is that the one where Okay, whatever. Do you think Genghaskhan would sacrifice

Brian Atlashis life for one of his many wives? No. He's like, "Oh, you think I'm going to die for one of my my wives?" >> Is he someone to look up to as a man?

Brian Atlas>> Mongolian. >> Yes. He had multiple he had dozens of wives. He had concubines. >> You think that's morally right though? >> That's secondary. That objection relevance.

Brian Atlas>> Uh so my my point here is but we're we're we're not assessing uh moral virtue here. We're you you would agree with me that someone can be an alpha male and immoral, right? So, if we're

Brian Atlasassessing alphaness uh over there, I think we'd have to say that Genghaskhan was certainly an alpha male uh being the uh

Brian Atlasthe ruler of the largest contiguous land empire to have ever existed, killing many, many multiple people. I'm not suggesting he's a moral man. I am

Annasuggesting that he is an alpha male. Didn't we say in the beginning of this we talked about war, how men are stronger at war, how women should not be in war and women should not be on the front lines, etc., etc.

Anna>> Didn't we say that? So, what would be the difference? Men are stronger. >> Projection relevance. >> Men are stronger. Okay, we know this. >> Why would having a conversation? You said it's beta for the man to be to to

Angelica (DC)want to survive. And I would I would present to you a historical historical example. I argue when it comes to Genghask Khan like yeah he did all of that and the Mongolians are waiting for a second

Angelica (DC)coming literally but between Genghask Khan and the man who conquered death which one was more alpha and who behaved in a more moral fashion >> Jesus Christ >> literally like he literally conquered

Angelica (DC)death conquered the world >> I wasn't talking about moral >> I'm talking about alpha I'm talking about alpha the alpha and the omega like literally like diss Disseminating your

Angelica (DC)seed is not the strongest thing a man can do. Dying for your sins, dying for those who don't deserve it is actually the most alpha male thing you could do according to the alpha and the >> Now Brian, what do you define as alpha though? >> Is it what Genghaskhan was? Like what's

Brian Atlasyour definition of alpha? >> He's like making a woman making a woman bow for him. I think if you call yourself an alpha, you're a beta. >> Yeah. No, it's super cringe. >> It is super cringe. But look, ultimately

Brian Atlasthis idea that you're a beta male for uh >> trembling away and throwing women off. Yeah. When you're the proper race. >> Technically, like I think it would be more alpha if here's your perspective

Brian Atlasmove. Genghaskhan aside. I think the more again, it's super cringe to use this terminology. The the more alpha thing would be uh oh, okay. I have to

Brian Atlaschoose between me dying or my wife dying. Well, I could get another wife and I could have 20 more children with more women versus Oh my god. Like, check

Brian Atlasthis out. In modern day, I for for most dudes for most dudes who'd be willing to die for their girlfriend, she's going to be on another dude's dick within 3 months. So, I got to give my life for a

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