HEATED DEBATE! She Got Her Ex DEPORTED?! Excommunicated Mormon/LDS?! Woke E-GIRL?! | Dating Talk 289

Date: 2026-04-06

Duration: 11h 01m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBarbara Adamson >

AAngelica (DC)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Joy(guest)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Emily Mack(guest)

SPEAKER_03Frankie(guest)

SPEAKER_04Angelica (DC)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Ally(guest)

SPEAKER_06Abby(guest)

SPEAKER_09Riley Nimi(guest)

SPEAKER_10Griselda(guest)

SPEAKER_11Barbara Adamson(guest)

SPEAKER_12Anna(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lii(guest)

SPEAKER_14Hannah(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 13 guests introduce themselves - largest panel ever

Key MomentGriselda reveals she crossed the Rio Grande illegally as a minor

ControversyRiley proposes shooting anyone who crosses the border

Key MomentAngelica reveals she lied about being engaged - actually married

Key MomentAlly reveals boyfriend strangled her on shrooms, she stayed with him

Key MomentHannah excommunicated from LDS church in high school

Key MomentAnna unknowingly dated a Craigslist killer

OtherLongest Whatever stream ever - approaching 11 hours

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

13 guests including Riley Nimi (conservative), Griselda (Mexican immigrant), Hannah, Anna (Marine vet), and many more. Longest Whatever stream ever (~11 hours).

Griselda Immigration Story

Crossed the Rio Grande illegally as a minor brought by father. Now has green card through marriage.

Riley Proposes Shooting Border Crossers

Controversial immigration solution sparks strong panel reaction.

Angelica Reveals She Is Actually Married

Lied about being engaged; actually married ~2 years with more money than husband.

Ally Boyfriend Strangled Her on Shrooms

Boyfriend had drug-induced psychosis, strangled her one month into relationship. She stayed.

Hannah LDS Excommunication

Excommunicated from Mormon church in high school for intimacy with boyfriend.

Anna Craigslist Killer Date

Unknowingly dated a Craigslist killer in San Diego.

Rapid Fire Trivia

Panel struggles with basic geography and history. Someone says Hitler ruled Poland.

Show Wrap - Longest Stream Ever

Show wraps after approaching 11 hours.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasnaturalized? >> No, I'm just got I just got my green card. >> Do you have to uh congrats >> a green card? So you're that's permanent, right? >> Yeah, that's permanent residency. Okay. But you don't have to

Brian Atlasbeyond getting a green card. You can uh you can become a full-fledged citizen, right? So you're not full-fledged citizen. >> No. >> So you can you vote? >> I can vote. >> You cannot vote. Okay. But if are you on the pathway to trying to become a citizen?

Brian Atlas>> Oh, yes, of course. >> Okay. I have a question for you on this. Um >> throw it at me. >> Uh by the way, is anybody here This is I guess I could ask it to anyone here. Is

Brian Atlasanyone here uh like either an immigrant or a child, like second generation, third generation immigrant? Like >> half like my my dad's from here, my mom's not. >> Okay. What for you?

Brian Atlas>> My grandmother on my mom's side was from Italy. >> From Italy. Okay. What about Yeah. >> Um my mom's from Japan? >> Mom's from Japan. >> That's cool. >> Uh is she a citizen now? Has she become a citizen of the US or? >> She has a green card. >> She has a green card. And your father is American?

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Okay. Well, I guess then this question is really only for you. Let me see if I can find it. Hold on. >> I'm also an immigrant. >> What's that? >> I'm also an immigrant. >> You are? >> Yeah. >> Like you where were you born? >> South Africa. Oh, word. That's cool.

Brian Atlas>> Well, you do you have US citizenship? >> Nope. I'm a UK citizen. >> You're a UK citizen. You were born in South Africa, but in ter uh do you have cultural affinity for the UK or South

Angelica (DC)Africa? >> Not really South Africa. UK somewhat, but I moved here when I was seven. So, I'd say I'm definitely American, but I still am technically an immigrant, I guess. >> And then your parents' nationality, what is it? >> Um, my dad's a UK citizen and my mom's

Brian Atlasalso a UK citizen, although she was previously an Indian citizen. >> Okay. Uh, so here's the question. I guess I maybe it will apply to you, but for you primarily, uh, and you're from Mexico. >> I'm from Mexico. Yes. >> Born in Mexico.

Griselda>> Born and raised in Mexico. >> When did you move to the United States? >> I moved, I think, in 2010. >> 2010. Well, I was kind of brought by my

Brian Atlasdad, you know, I was I think 17, 16, 17. >> Okay, I see. So, uh, in a morally neutral, blamefree hypothetical conflict

Griseldabetween the United States and Mexico where say neither side is right or wrong, to which country is your allegiance? >> That's a really tough question to be

Griseldahonest. Um well I had to say probably to the United States at this point of my life because uh you know my kids are from here my

Griseldahusband he's a US citizen and you know but you know you never leave your your roots you know I mean if it were to be

Griseldain a war I don't know probably I probably lean more towards Mexico but you know I mean it's a difficult question you know >> and do you think you deserve citizenship

Griselda>> I yeah you if I deserve it. I mean, I I contribute to the society. I'm a taxpayer. I create jobs for Americans and you know, I do a lot of things. I feel like I'm an atom. >> Can't you create jobs in Mexico? >> No.

Griselda>> No. Okay. >> That's what I'm saying. >> I forgot about that. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I grew up just here in the States for Americans.

Brian Atlas>> So, and just to be clear, this question is more so like a um it you can still have an affinity a a cultural affinity for your country. I'm assuming you have

Brian Atlasrelatives and family live in Mexico. This isn't a rejection of your um familial ties. It's not a rejection of your culture even. But in terms it's

Brian Atlasmore like a legal um allegiance to the United States, your political allegiance um in the event of some sort of war, you

Brian Atlaswould side with the United States over Mexico. probably probably yes I would say with the United States >> one thing to be aware of so actually I

Brian Atlasdon't think this is a requirement under your green card status I think I'm not familiar with the green card status but if you were wanting to become a naturalized US citizen you have to take

Brian Atlasthe oath of allegiance in the oath of allegiance it does require you to uh forsake and abandon that's not the exact wording but you essentially have to forsake any allegiance to any other uh

Brian Atlascountry, state, sovereignty, principality, kingdom, etc., etc., etc. Uh, and you your loyalty must fully be with the United States. >> Correct. >> But I don't know what if there's a to

Griseldaget your green card. I don't know if >> not really for that. >> No, not really. I mean there's basically just uh you know they investigate you to the core you know they want to know that

Griseldathe relationship is for real that you're not just getting your papers you know but I think you when you get your citizenship yes you have to you basically are giving up your Mexican

Brian Atlas>> uh you know citizenship >> sure uh Shona what about you so I mean same question the United States goes to war with the UK um >> no one's right or wrong >> that seems to never be the case Well,

Brian Atlasit's hypothetical. So, it's like a morally neutral conflict, you know? >> Well, if it's a morally neutral conflict, I would be morally neutral. >> You'd >> or I would not like really be on a particular side,

Brian Atlas>> right? But in the in the situation, the hypothetical, you had to pick a side. Which side would you pick? >> I mean, I I would choose the United States cuz I live here. >> Cuz you What if you were at the time of

Brian Atlasthe war breaking out, you were living in the UK at the at that moment? And if if I was living in the UK and that was like my foreseen future >> with the option of course that you know

Brian Atlasit your oath of allegiance would if it was to the United States obviously you wouldn't have to publicly say this and you could always go back to the United States prior to outbreak of major conflict or something.

Brian Atlas>> I would just choose wherever I plan on living long term. >> I mean like at that point in time. >> Do you ever see yourself in your life living longterm in the UK? >> No. I'd live here. >> Okay. Uh so I guess back to this though, the

Brian Atlasquestion is uh would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant to which you say illegal immigrant? >> Yeah. >> Uh so going around the table,

Brian Atlaswould you rather I guess you can maybe swap it. Wait, hold on. You have to change the question for the people who are not conservative. This is a question more so for the more conservative

Brian Atlaspeople. Uh hm. How do we how do we swap it to be a question for libs? >> Would you rather rather date a Well, yeah. Would you rather date a conservative >> or an ICE officer?

Brian Atlas>> Wait, how about this? >> Or an ice officer? >> ICE officer >> or a trans >> or a trans man. >> Oh, >> this is so uncool. But okay. >> Why is it Why is it uncool?

Brian Atlas>> I don't like either of the options. >> You don't like transgenders? I don't >> Are you transphobic? >> We do not need this on that podcast. >> I just would like >> uh So, Angelica, for you, would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant? >> A liberal.

Angelica (DC)>> Why? >> Really? >> Well, to your Mexican point, correct me if I'm wrong, toxicos, they have loyalty tests. The Mexican men are common to hit

Angelica (DC)or cheat on their women to prove that their ride or dies. And that's typical of a lot of men from other countries that are not >> assuming that the legal is from Mexico. >> So I'm like I don't want anything to do

Angelica (DC)with them. I like Western men, including Americanized Hispanics, >> but it has to be Americanized Westernized people. >> Why are we assuming that the illegal is from Mexico? >> Because they're the most common. >> Good point.

Angelica (DC)>> Well, >> they could be any >> Well, in my experience, I've only ever seen Mexican illegals. Now there's more Somalians and Haitians and all of these different people. There's always been Mexicans, not to the

Angelica (DC)largest bulk of illegal immigration comes from south of the border, particularly Mexico. >> It's like 50% at minimum has always been from Mexico. >> It's because it's easier to slide in here. You know, >> literally, you know, got to take you

Griseldathere. >> No, no, it's not easy. I actually crossed the river and >> that's the hard way. It's easier. That's what she's getting at. >> I need to hear this story. their visa. A lot of people fly in and overstay their visa, which is the easiest way to do it.

Angelica (DC)It's just they have to like American dollars to afford that ticket. Otherwise, you have to basically take that whole commute on the train and everything. >> Yeah. I mean, but to say that, you know,

Griseldathe Hispanic men are saying Mexican men are, you know, they have to, you know, that basically they have to hit you or whatever. I mean, I think it's you're generalizing. >> Not all of them, of course, but it is

Frankiecommon and I just don't want to deal with it. I feel like every illegal immigrant I've met has been someone that's like overstayed a visa or something like that. So I just had the same experience. >> Well, not all of them. Well, not all. That's what you did to her. See how like

Anna[ __ ] it is? Do you know what I mean? >> No, it doesn't sound [ __ ] to me at all. >> How about you? Which one would you pick? >> Me? >> Yeah. >> Um, well, there's not something worse than an extreme leftist woman is a beta

Annaleftist male. So, I'm going to go with illegals. Also, my type. I love my Mexican daddy. though, especially if you're a Mexican daddy. >> What about Nick Fuentes? >> He's Hispanic. >> He's not cute. >> No,

Anna>> he's not Mexican enough. >> I want a man. And sometimes I feel like leftist men are like, "Will you pay half my bill?" And will can I leech off you? And it's just like I find like Mexican

Annamen especially are they want to provide. They want that like natural role. >> And anytime I haven't been in any sort of abusive situation, it's been with white people. So, I find them to have the same values kind of that I grew up with.

Griselda>> Yeah. I mean, I think the Hispanic cultures have more of this. U men are more, you know, they're more um culturally speaking, they're more characterized for being more

Griseldaconservative, you know, and but yeah, they also expect you to be in the conservative side, you know. That's from my experience. I basically all of my all of my relationships have been, you know,

Griseldamy same race. Should I say that? I have dated a couple of, you know, white white guys and yeah, I mean it culturally speaking, it's totally different. You know, uh I think Hispanic men are very

Griseldavery conservative, but they they expect the same from you. And I don't I consider myself conservative in certain ways, but I think thinking about it, I think I'm I'm a little bit more moderate. Same. >> Yeah. You know, I believe in a lot of

Angelica (DC)stuff, but you know, I don't like a men telling me what to do, basically. Well, on those two points, when it comes to leftist men, they typically treat women like public property, and conservative men treat them like private property,

Angelica (DC)where they're mine. But on your point, I only ever dated one Hispanic man, Mexican. He was the only one that was ever aggressive. So, after that, and not only that, I was forewarned by a friend of mine's father-in-law where he was

Angelica (DC)like, "Oh, I heard that Mexican men beat their women." And I'm like, "Oh, >> oh, how could you say something like that?" No, of course not. And then yeah, I mean I had to eat my words basically.

Griselda>> Well well well at least you realized it. >> I do get jealous. I will say that like a little bit territorial but >> yeah I mean no I mean I want to say >> but they're hardwork and they contribute to I mean most of the people again

Griseldahardwork. >> Yeah I mean most of the people that I know again are you know immigrants or illegal immigrants and yes everybody's very hardworking. I mean I don't take I mean I work I hire you know immigrants

Griseldaand um everybody's very hardworking and everybody has their wives you know they provide my chef let's just put it that way his wife doesn't work for anything

Angelica (DC)he works seven days a week all day and you know she's she's a happy wife. >> Well I think I think the subject right now is just pretty much pure immigration. Um although I don't deny that obviously Hispanics work very hard. I've seen that my entire life. I mean I

Angelica (DC)grew up at Jehovah's Witness. So it's like all there were were like undocumented immigrants. At the same time, the issue right now in the country is that it's so overstrained on our public resources that although there are

Angelica (DC)people who are hardworking, it's it's just like we don't necessarily need that extra occupancy until we get everything figured out as to how we modify things. >> The thing is that yeah, to get to that point, I mean, I'm very involved on, you

Griseldaknow, on this immigration stuff. During the four years of Biden, a lot of people that shouldn't be here came in here. You know, I'm an immigrant, but I mean, that was a mess. Again, I'm telling you

Griseldabecause I I work directly with Venezuelans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, you name it. >> Are they legal? >> So, the ones that I have right now, they have a work permit. >> All of them do. >> Yeah, all of them. >> Okay, good.

Griselda>> So, but I'm telling you, there was a time, you know, that I will hire, let's just say a Venezuelan, and turns out that this guy was being, you know, followed by the Venezuelan government for whatever reason. He killed somebody,

Griseldahe did something really horrible. Okay. >> But yeah, I have to agree that during the four years of Biden, a lot of people shouldn't shouldn't have come here. And the same Venezuelan people, the same

GriseldaCuban people told me. Maduro Maduro is just letting people out of the out of the jails, out of mental institutions, that was for real. I mean, whoever doesn't believe that, you believe in

Griseldaanother line because it was for real. Like these governments were letting people out just to come here and basically do a mess, you know? >> Well, that's the thing. they were cleaning out their own countries and the economy of their countries basically

Angelica (DC)depend on the remittances from this country. But my issue is that from that decision that Biden took. It's reflective of the fact that immigration is a tool that they use politically where it's like if they use a bulk subset of people who are not

Angelica (DC)assimilating, if they use a bulk subset of people who don't share the same temperaments, habits, values of the people in this country, it's much easier to propagandize them against the natives interests.

Griselda>> Absolutely. That's why I mean I'm pro- immigration like I said but yeah I mean this you know Democrats usually bring people so they can vote for them. That's

Griseldahow I see it. I've seen it firsthand. I mean they these people I I can I cannot just understand you know I've seen a lot of Venezuelans, a lot of Cubans like they just step foot when Biden was here.

GriseldaThey just step foot here in the states and they get uh food stamps, they get a phone, they get a hotel and you know I've been here I don't know for more than 15 years and I never got anything

Griseldajust because I'm Mexican you know but this whole prop propaganda that Biden had you know you have to come to you you can come to the states and you will get all your stuff free that was for real. Well, that's the thing that I also >> and I agree with your statement like

Angelica (DC)yeah, >> that's the thing that I have as an issue though is that people tend to and it's something that's reflective of this podcast a lot. They put the burden on the individual because obviously we live in a post wasp society. But in reality,

Angelica (DC)these systems, these welfare systems of, you know, the phone, the whatever, it's all kind of like corporatism marrying socialism and benefiting the elites that basically are seeing profit by ushering

Angelica (DC)in and controlling these people's lives where it's like the issue isn't necessarily with the individuals. The problem is with the system itself. If you're to start chastising every individual, that's going to take forever. But if you start chastising the mechanisms that be that might solve

Griseldathings a little faster. >> Yeah. And again I believe also that you know there's a the actual people that come from Venezuela or Cuba or Nicarawa, let's put it that way. Uh they usually

Griseldanot liberals because they come from that government. They come from socialism. They confront dictatorships like all my you know the people that I know that are Venezuelan Cuban you know they hate they hate with heart like liberals or

Griseldademocrats because of the reason because they know what it is you know people here in the state don't know what actually socialism do to people like they think that everything is just like you know like a little cartoon that everything is for free here's your free

Angelica (DC)stuff you're going to get it for free nothing is going to happen the money is not going to come from anywhere but you know that's a that's very oblivious >> but that's the thing is that And it's an issue that I have. Once again, I love Hispanics. I am Hispanic. I love them. I

Angelica (DC)just everything. But the issue is much like women with marriage, Hispanics with green cards is contingent on whether they're going to vote Republican or Democrat. And my issue is if our values are so conservative, why is it that when

Angelica (DC)you come here, you vote liberal and Democrat when you know that's going to support things like proabortion and like gay marriage and all of this jazz? And it's like you're backing down on your own religious, moral, Christian, you

Angelica (DC)know, societal values just to get material benefits for yourself. And that is reflective of a poor character that you don't necessarily want in any nation. >> That's that is right. >> You know what we need to do? No more legal immigrants. We got to [ __ ]

Brian Atlasdeport them all. >> That's what we got to do. >> I don't necessarily agree because I mean, >> why? >> Because immigrants, we do a lot of things. >> Uh, well, hold on. I I did specify

Brian Atlasillegal immigrants, >> although we should probably reduce the legal immigrants we allow in also substantially. >> I mean, I agree in certain certain things of that, but again, I think the

Griseldaway the government is doing it right now, I I I don't necessarily agree the way they're deporting. Okay. I don't >> how what are they doing specifically that you disagree with? >> I mean, I just feel I mean, I know this

Griseldahas happened all the time with all the presidents. I know that I'm not I'm not that stupid. I just feel like, you know, they're they're being too harsh to to people and that's why it's getting a bad rep. >> I entirely agree with you. Entirely

Angelica (DC)agree with you. The issue is that they're trying to make this like huge propaganda of how brutal they're making it, but the numbers don't reflect the brutality. So, it's almost like they're setting it up to fail in the first part where it's like, okay, we want these people out for sure, but you're

Annamarketing it in such a terrible way that you're losing the public's like interest in it, which is like wholly on it. I hate >> but ask yourself why. Look what happened when Kamla got up and said don't come

Angelica (DC)here. They came by the millions. So they are showing a no nonsense approach. Look this is going to happen to you. You won't be able to get back into the country for 10 years. >> True. But why don't they then target the people who are hiring the illegal immigrants? Why don't they target the

Angelica (DC)welfare programs that are basically they should but they're not doing it. They're making it as ugly and as harmful as possible for the public like image of it which is only going to hurt the cause. Meanwhile, they're not like materially doing anything to actually get those

Brian Atlasnumbers out. I I don't even understand. I mean, look, >> there were deportations. There were deportations under Obama. There were deportations under Biden. Much of the media attention on the deportations, by

Brian Atlasthe way, and they were apprehending, you know, the way they were apprehending these people has not changed substantially ever since Trump became president. It's just there's political motive now because this is going to be

Brian Atlaslike a a point to sort of uh push people to the polls to vote Democrat in the upcoming election. And so there was none of this attention on ICE really, at least to this degree, when Obama was

Annapresident, when Biden was president. It's a silent. >> It totally in 2016 CNN did a piece, look it up, and they were calling the illegal immigrants targets and they were praising Obama and they were acting like

Annahe was doing this great thing and protecting United States citizens. So, it's just kind of crazy over the last decade, it's flopped and now all of a sudden all this negative media attention. >> That's what I'm trying to say because

Griseldaagain, I'm again I'm not against eyes. I'm not against deportations because yes, a lot of a lot of people came here that shouldn't be here. Like, let's just get that straight. And I'm an immigrant. I I love immigrant people. Of course, I

Brian AtlasI I work >> every Well, wait. Hold on. Everyone who crossed the border illegally or who is here illegally doesn't belong here. Not just the violent criminals. All of them.

GriseldaThey all have to go. >> Well, I don't agree with that. I came that way. Well, they brought me that way. I didn't I didn't I didn't have a choice, though. They brought me >> Well, okay. So yes, obviously if you're

Brian Atlasa minor and you're under the custody of your parents and they commit the crime uh and you're secondary to that, but yes, you also if you're here illegally, yeah, you're going to be deported too or should be.

Griselda>> Well, again, but I tried my ways to to get situated. You know, my husband is a US citizenship and that's the first thing we did. >> Well, now you're legally here. So, >> yeah, now I'm legally here. >> Originally, though, you were here illegally. >> Yes, I stay a lot.

Angelica (DC)>> Have your parents been deported? >> No. No, they actually have a visa, tourist visa. >> Well, that's the thing that I'm once again saying. It's like everyone's falling for the propaganda scop. It's like you're once again looking at like these individuals that are coming over,

Angelica (DC)but it's like who's ushering them in? Who's giving them the welfare? Who's giving them the Medicaid? Who's giving them the promise? And when it comes to Obama, they counted turnaways at the border as deportations. They were flubbing the numbers, but in reality, the immigrants were still coming in at

Angelica (DC)like extraordinary amounts. >> Let's just talk that immigrants are still coming right now. >> Yeah. They've always capitalized on like illegal stab labor. This is a problem since the 70s and it's only been multiplying. So once again, it's like

Angelica (DC)blaming the individuals is not going to do anything because ultimately they're being incentivized to come over. You have to kill the incentive to stop them from coming. >> Well, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Hold

Brian Atlason. That's that's crazy. That's crazy policy adisement. So, okay. First off, how is it crazy? Well, hold on. I'll explain it. So, first off, uh if if it is the case, and I think it is the case, that we aren't holding these companies

Brian Atlasresponsible who are profitering off of these illegal immigrants because you can pay them less or whatever, I'm 100% on board with you. They ought to be prosecuted, too. I have no objection to that. But saying that the blame should

Brian Atlasonly be placed on on the systems in place that enable this, uh sure, we can address that too. But also, there needs to be a mechanism to actually remove the individuals from this country. airgo airgo deportation.

Angelica (DC)>> There was a repatriation act that happened in the 1920s during the Great Depression where once they cut out welfare, once they cut out Medicaid, like 3 million Mexicans went back to Mexico immediately. Once you remove the mechanisms to keep them here, the

Angelica (DC)incentives to come here, they go away because they can't assimilate without those mechanisms. Then you only retain those that can properly assimilate. >> Hold on. But so, okay, you're saying because because they they receive

Angelica (DC)certain uh government benefits that that is the the the reason why they're here. Yes, schooling. The same reason why there are so many homeless people here because they get all the benefits. >> Can I ask Can I ask though?

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. One thing. One thing. I would argue even if all of those things were to disappear, uh most of the people that come here do so for economic reasons, even if there weren't government handouts and they weren't receiving

Brian Atlasbenefits. Uh there's a couple other factors here. The United States is safer and it has a stronger economy. And so should we just tank our own economy and make America unsafe so it's untenable for illegal immigrants to come here?

Angelica (DC)>> You just said it. Employment. Who's employing them? If they're not being if they're only hiring Americans who are verified Americans, we wouldn't have this problem. They wouldn't come over here. There would be blockades.

Brian Atlas>> Moreover, non-government organizations like his are the ones transporting them over here. How >> is it already illegal to employ? Like isn't it already illegal to employ an illegal immigrant? They come over here. They do it

Griseldaeverywhere. They do it everywhere. I mean, this is going to it's not going to stop. It has always happened. I mean, when I got here to the States, I got employed at what 16 or 17. I got employed at Mexican restaurant. They didn't ask me for an ID. They didn't ask

Griseldame for anything but just show up tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. And basically, I didn't know any English because I was, you know, I came from Mexico and I was just speaking Spanish. And but yeah, I

Riley Nimimean, you that's never going to stop. That has happened since again like 2010. >> So with your employees, uh I know that they're, you know, legally able to be here and whatnot because of their work visas, but are you paying them under the table? >> No, they actually No, no, no, no. Like

Angelica (DC)everything is legal. >> The entire process of illegal immigration, it's like a huge trafficking ring in and of itself that the same corporations that are hiring these illegals are using their bodies, their organs, their sex, everything to basically fund their own non-government

Griseldaorganizations, the government. >> And the worst thing is that we get paid very minimum. When I started working, I I was getting paid, I think, $50 a day, working from 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. $50 a day.

Angelica (DC)>> Yeah. And the employer should be prosecuted. Shono, you wanted to jump in? >> Oh, yeah. I was just going to say, I don't know if illegal immigration completely demerits welfare programs because those also benefit non-legal immigrants, if I'm not mistaken, in the US.

Angelica (DC)>> Sure, but it needs calibration. Right now, it's being completely abused. We can't just >> Are you saying to like cut down those welfare programs for the people that are illegal and not paying them down or cut them completely? If they're not paying into it, why would they go completely or cut? >> No, you have to cut down who's on it.

Angelica (DC)So, basically, there's a bunch of Americans in the rust belt who are addicted to meth, who are struggling because there's no jobs in the rust belt and they're not getting the welfare that they're supposed to get for all of the taxes and for all of the heritage that they have in this country. And instead, it's going to people who just arrived.

Angelica (DC)>> I do agree that those people should have priority with welfare programs, >> but it's not priority. It should go to them. That's what it was designated for. >> We pay into it. We work hard. I understand. They're being disenfranchised. That's why the American populace is being destroyed. Women in that area are now just absolutely

Angelica (DC)unstable. And this could certainly b like boost up the birth population if they were actually aided. >> I just thought you were kind of criticizing those programs for welfare. I love welfare. >> Well, actually, with welfare, I have a hot take on this. I think that when

Angelica (DC)somebody signs up for any type of government assistance, while they're signing up for it, they should relinquish their right to vote. >> Correct. That's true. Yeah. It's like you can't be dependent on the government and then vote to influence the government. Create that dependency. I also think I also think you should be able you should take a drug test.

Angelica (DC)>> Correct. >> I completely disagree with that because those individuals who are on that on those welfare programs are still completely subject to the people. So they're affected by it. Should they not

Riley Nimi>> be able to contribute to like voting and >> No, because they would just vote for more free [ __ ] >> Correct. >> I don't think but that's a >> Okay. If you give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. If you promise a man another man's fish, he'll vote for you. >> Not only that, it's like we are subject

Angelica (DC)to that person's lack of everyone votes for responsibility. We become their slaves. Not all of us. >> Billionaires will vote for what? >> How does banning abortion benefit me? That doesn't benefit me. >> How does how does banning slavery How does banning slavery and protecting

Angelica (DC)these young black ladies right here? How does that benefit me? It doesn't. It doesn't. >> I agree. And like we should some of us vote for other people on what would be good for people. >> Are you saying are you saying only black people have been enslaved or I think all of us have been enslaved at some point.

Angelica (DC)at some point. Yeah. >> I'm just saying under the worldview you mentioned like billionaires who vote for what benefits themselves like that should also like not be allowed. >> Yeah. Because because the few hundred or a low amount of thousand billionaires that live in America that swing election their votes.

Angelica (DC)>> You could point out an exception of someone who's relying on a welfare program who's like a man who would still vote for like um things like to do with abortion that doesn't affect him. Like >> I don't think billionaire should be able to be like international. I think that if you're in this country doing business, you should be reflective of

Brian Atlasthe heritage of this country. You shouldn't have a multinational corporation that's influencing multiple countries for their own commerce. I don't know what that has to do with what I >> hold on really quick. Uh really quick. Uh the champagne pot from Robert Tanner. Who would like champagne?

Brian Atlas>> Me. >> Uh so one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Okay. Can we get uh seven cups? You know what? Here, Nathan, let me just have you

Brian Atlaspour back there for me. Okay. And then you'll hand out the cups. Uh here, hold on. Let me Yeah. Yeah. Stay there. >> Thank you, Metro Matt. Appreciate it. >> Metro donated $200. I love Big Booty

Brian AtlasLatinos. >> American women are chopped. >> That is all. >> Yo, Metro Matt, thank you, man. Appreciate the TTSW's in the chat from for Metro Matt. Um, big booty Latinos. >> There are big booty white girls

Anna>> who's spiritually white booty. >> White girl evolving. Okay, >> I will say speaking of immigrants too, not not just >> there are >> my my almost four-year-old is actually

Annain a Venezuelan run uh preschool and he's completely bilingual and like they those women they take so such good but they are here >> the quality learning center. >> What's that? >> The quality learning center. Okay,

Brian Atlas>> to her point they're actually very conservative and they're here legally but um yeah Arkansas is very strict on immigration so they wouldn't be running a business. So >> we do have a chat here from Gigi William. Why does illegal immigration dominate the national debate while

Brian Atlascorporate reliance on foreign labor from countries like China gets a free pass? >> I don't think it does. I mean, I say the same thing. >> Well, >> well, I mean, I manufacture a lot in China. >> What's that? >> We manufacture a lot in China.

Riley Nimi>> Should have been to the rust belt. I'm glad I finished that. Went to China. >> Yeah. So, >> they passed a bunch of regulation in the 1970s and 1980s made it economically impossible to manufacture in Chicago and Detroit and every everywhere in the rust belt and got exported to China. the libs

Angelica (DC)basically ruined uh America with >> no that's it wasn't the Reagan but that's the thing that I had as an argument why are we putting the onus on all of the immigrants instead of recognizing the people who own and run

Angelica (DC)this country betrayed their own people that like it between if I have a bullet and there was a traitor and an enemy you give it to the traitor not the enemy

Angelica (DC)>> am I am I wrong no I'm not wrong >> you would give it to like an illegal immigrant over like >> No I would give it to my enemy or my traitor rather, someone who betrays me, I would give it to them, not an enemy. And I don't see illegal

Angelica (DC)immigrants as my enemy. I see them as someone who's being incentivized to basically be propagandized against my best interest. So, who's they assume we're the same? >> Who's the traitor then? >> Multinational corporations. >> Okay. >> And the government. I think it's a mixture. >> Yeah. They work together. Basically, the

Angelica (DC)multinational corporations own our politicians illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is funded by the government, which is owned by multinational corporations that benefit from the scab labor. Absolutely. And dur Sorry, when

Angelica (DC)>> have uh have Tiffany hand it out. >> When you say multinational corporations, like what do you mean by that? Like big tech companies or >> tech companies I suppose, but I was thinking more like anything that's under like the World Economic Forum or I guess

Angelica (DC)meta nos. >> NOS's but they're government. They're not corporations. Um >> so you're like anti- big corporation. >> Yes, >> I'm anti-banks. >> It's actually a little bit like liberal. >> No, it's not. It's very anti-Semitic of you. It's very anti-semitic.

Angelica (DC)>> Oh my goodness. No, it's not liberal at all. Liberal are pro- capitalism. Liberalism was a product of capitalism. It's a masonic concept that came from individualism, selling out your heritage, selling out whatever. That's why you don't have a

Angelica (DC)problem with illegal immigration. You have no heritage. I never when did when did I say I had no problem with >> you want them to have welfare? That's a huge issue. >> I didn't say that. >> I just said I was just Oh my goodness. Okay. Anyway, so when it comes to

Angelica (DC)illegal immigration, that's a reflection that you're betraying your own cultural and religious and heritage values, which is a product of liberalism. But capitalism is intertwined with liberalism. That's why leftists say they hate liberals even though most leftists are liberals themselves.

Angelica (DC)>> Okay. I mean instead of the word the word liberal like you could say there's like leftists who have beliefs that are slightly are stupid to put it. >> Slightly aligned with socialist like ideas. >> Social No, that's Marxism. They're >> like democratic socialism like that sort of thing.

Angelica (DC)>> That's a Well, it depends on what is democratic socialism >> like kind of like Money's campaign for example. >> No, but like you tell me what it is. Tell me what what is democratic socialism? I hear this kind of like focusing on like resources for the public, things of that sort.

Angelica (DC)>> Well, they pretend to do that, but not full on their pockets. >> But who's the democracy that's reflecting who's getting the benefits? >> Don't start it. >> Are the natives, >> not the public, cuz the public could include illegal immigrants. It could include everyone's getting the benefits.

Angelica (DC)Like in New York, if there's like free public transportation, everyone has access to their transportation. If I am for public transportation, a lot of people are getting there free. Exactly. I'm speaking of the idea, not >> if I am for public transportation, healthcare, housing, all of that jazz,

Angelica (DC)which I am. I want it to be for the people who are of that blood and belong to that nation. I don't want it to be for someone that has absolutely no heritage, no interest, no roots there. At that point, you're basically incentivizing traders to come over and

Angelica (DC)vote against your best interests to change the culture. Well, my belief regarding illegal immigration is that like it should there's there should be as much done as possible to prevent it in the first place. And if it comes down to deportation, I understand that. Although I don't agree with a lot of ISIS methodology.

Angelica (DC)>> I think deportation is like the weakest way to do it. It's it's a physical action. You should do it in a pragmatic way first. That's why I say I think it's a scop. I think that the whole violent deportation thing is to subvert deportation's popularity. I think that

Angelica (DC)if you were to remove the mechanisms behind it, people would naturally and peacefully leave and there would be no cultural division, no culture wars, no one would be arguing about it. Everyone would coales. >> We are paying people $5,000. Stop. Hold

Brian Atlason really quick. We got to do a little shout out for Robert Tanner. Uh Robert Tanner. Uh cheers. Saloo. Thank you for the champagne pop at the beginning of the stream there. Appreciate it, man. >> Thank you for calling American Women Chopped. >> I don't think that was Robert Tanner who said that.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Sorry, Robert. >> Did he? I don't think that was right. Hey, don't slander. >> Sorry to kick. Don't slander. Don't slander my boy Robert Tanner. >> Okay. Sorry, Robert. Sorry.

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Brian Atlaswe have uh let's see, >> Rowey, thank the Australian 160. The UN and the globalist elite are the biggest threat to Western culture. They have literally funded the population movement

Brian Atlasover the last 20 years and also been behind the feminist revolution that has destroyed the single income family from Rowie. Thank for the Thank you, mate. That was probably terrible, but thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thank you for the soup chat there. Thank you for the

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Annaokay. Where were we from? Well, I was about to say we are giving these illegal immigrants $5,000, some of them to leave. What country does that? So to sit here and act like we're these bad people, they're breaking a law. We're

Griseldastill giving them money. >> I actually have a great solution. >> We What does it have to do with what I said? >> To finish the question. >> Well, let me tell you something about those $5,000. They were actually not receiving it. I know. I know someone

Riley Nimithat received people that were not. What's your solution? Yeah. So, I was going to say a great solution to stop illegal immigration. This wouldn't help the ones here, but to stop it would to be place a border guard every mile along the uh the border wall and shoot anyone

Riley Nimithat crosses on site. And so, what it would be though is it would be peace through strength. So, basically, nobody in their right mind would cross over if they know that they're going to get shot right away. Nobody would. If a mother's bringing her child across the border, child gets shot.

Riley Nimi>> It's peace. I I understand that. I understand that. But nobody would do it. And if somebody does do it, some some 21-year-old guy is like, "Hey man, let's go to America, man." And they try to hop over the border, they're going to get shot. One person gets shot and nobody would cross the border.

Angelica (DC)>> A child getting shot is a better like a better scenario than a child existing illegally. >> It would be better than thousands of children being trafficked through the southern border every year. >> Do you see what I mean? It's like you're using the most unpopular optics and you're using the most empathetic appeal

Angelica (DC)and it's a culture divide which could be resolved easier by just addressing the corporate multinational companies that are incentivizing. You basically stop doing this whole exchange that is like absolutely stupid and instead you focus

Angelica (DC)on why exactly are these illegal immigrants from all over the world being incentivized and how exactly are they coming over here when they don't have an education? Like how do they know English? How do they know the navigation processes here? They don't. So someone

Griseldais funneling them over. someone is traveling them everyone get here they don't know but I mean I got to the western civilization I mean I my culture is totally different from here and I had to learn everything from zero I mean

Griseldaagain I had to learn English I went to school here I did everything necessarily to fit into the western culture >> I wouldn't say you're not part of western culture because you're Christian though I assume you're Christian >> I think that Mexican people are western we're on the western hemisphere

Griseldadifferent languages >> it's different language and of yeah there's a difference in culture for sure you know I Mexicans we, you know, we like a lot of different things from Americans for sure. But, you know, the thing the problem I don't think, you

Griseldaknow, Hispanics, I think Hispanics, we get, you know, we get very used to this culture, the Western culture. I feel like the people >> we don't get used to you guys, though. So, that's the problem. That's a lot. >> I mean, that's that's you probably because, you know,

Griselda>> you guys talking about big booty Latinos this entire time. It's like, wait a minute. What do you mean you're not? >> I had to pick between that. >> My husband is as white as you. My husband is white. You like Christy Gnome celebrating her birthday at a Mexican restaurant. Like

Anna>> white people love Mexicans. >> That's being tolerant of Mexican culture though. I'm just saying >> that's the thing doesn't mean you're not intolerant. We're intolerant to the illegal way of them coming over here. Not intolerant to their culture. That's the line. It's not a restaurant that doesn't have Mexicans

Angelica (DC)in it. >> Or that's what we're not intolerant to their culture. We're intolerant to people coming over here. That's the thing that the the friction itself is so manufactured. I'm like, wait a minute. Americans in general have like even positive opinions when it comes to

Angelica (DC)Hispanics. They just don't like the laws being broken and the numbers of people coming over. But there's really no vitriol there. So the whole vitriol is in itself contrived to distract oneself once again from the multinational corporations and non-government organizations funneling them over.

Angelica (DC)>> Wait, so do you think there exists like zero prejudice or judgment between but um regarding like Mexicans and Hispanics in the US? >> In my experience, Mexicans are more hostile to Mexicans themselves. Like Hispanics are way more racist to other Hispanics. Honestly, when it comes to

Angelica (DC)white people, the most that they've ever done is just be like, "Are where do you come from? Mexico." And it's like, "I'm not Mexican." So, that's about like as much prejudice as I've ever faced. >> Okay. I mean, there's probably someone who's faced more prejudice out there.

Angelica (DC)But I'm not congratulations on the anecdotal fantasy that you have right now, but at the end of the day, it's like I don't think if they were facing prejudice, it would kind of deter them from coming over and yet they're still coming over in droves. I don't think >> it because there's still the economic

Angelica (DC)benefits that they're seeking, right? I mean overall that in itself is a form that they're not being prejudiced against. If they were discriminated against they wouldn't come over because then they couldn't get jobs or welfare >> socially like that's social employment is a social thing. That's why you're on

Angelica (DC)public social services if you don't have a job. >> Okay. Say you have a job but like you're discriminated by other members of society. So people have thicker skin. They I mean she crossed a Rio Grande. I mean like oh my god they caught me. I'm saying so that it's like only Americans are that so that wouldn't deter them is

Angelica (DC)what I'm saying >> coming over that only Americans are like we don't care and not American I take that back not Americans liberal Americans who have nothing to complain about so they found this >> they live in a bubble in a bubble don't care how how they know exactly they

Angelica (DC)virtue you signaling like wealthy welloff like middle class girls who are like I literally have nothing to complain about I have to come up with something to look like a good person >> cuz you don't know how good you have it >> you guys are making the same point as I

Angelica (DC)made if if like a Mexican immigrant had a job and they like received some prejudice, they wouldn't care because they have a job. Even if they receive prejudice, it's like it's so inconsequential. We literally don't even care. >> She just made the same point. And not

Angelica (DC)only that, we're like, if anything, even preferred cuz as we've already commented, a lot of men like Hispanic women. A lot of women like Hispanic men. They like supporting the point that she's trying to make. >> I made that point initially. >> No, once again, I have never faced any

Angelica (DC)discrimination. I think the most discrimination you face is just documentation status. That's about it. It's just documentation. That doesn't even just apply to This is about you. No one has ever discriminated just because you're Hispanic. They discriminate because of your documented

Angelica (DC)slurs for like Mexican people. Like >> what is it? >> Starts with a B. I'm not going to say it. >> That's not even a big one. It's like every laugh. We laugh. >> Get you a Mexican. The biggest Hispanics. The biggest blur. The biggest

Angelica (DC)blur came from liberals calling us Latin X invalidating our culture. That was the most detestable thing anyone's ever called me. >> Okay, that is true. you literally they were like trying to decolonize Spanish. I'm like wait a

Angelica (DC)minute at this point now I understand the most Dutch person in the world I am now being annoyed. Can I chime in with a no Hispanic or Mexican in the US has ever received any sort of racist

Angelica (DC)judgement or% everyone receives I think I think white people have received more racist judgment than the average Hispanic in their own nation including Europe in their own nation I agree

Angelica (DC)>> by the multinational corporations and minorities who are not technically minorities because they're like global majorities coming in being basically entitled to the benefits that should go to Americans if you force socialism if

Angelica (DC)you're welfare Why exactly are you for disenfranchising American people who are not receiving the welfare that is going to those who are serving multinational corporations needs? If you're so against billionaires, why exactly are you for the people that they're importing getting the welfare that is not going to

Angelica (DC)the Americans? >> I never said I was for them. >> You literally just said it >> for illegal immigrants. >> You can continue basically moving the goalpost, but you're right. >> You said earlier, I'm not for illegal immigrants. >> Latina power right there. Wow. >> Literally, I know it's like racism against my delivery is just racism against my heritage. It's like I I'm

Annaliterally so affronted right now. How could you prejudice against me? I'm literally vicing. >> Can I say something really quick? Puerto Rican. >> Can I say something really quick? Um, Arkansas has been really strict. This goes back to the SCAP of the ICE agents

Annabecause they've been in my town for over a year. We've been using our jails like as a detention center and not one like violent gang outburst of protests have

Annaoccurred. But anyways, I digress. I met a family at a park one day who was from uh Ven, no, Guatemala. And I said, "Oh, did you move here from Guatemala?" And they said, "No, I actually moved here from Colorado." Do you remember when the

AnnaVenezuelan gangs were quote not terrorizing the neighborhoods? Yeah. They said they had to leave because these Venezuelan gangs were so bad they were terrorizing their neighborhoods. And so these illegal immigrants that

Annawere not vetted were actually harming the legal immigrants who came here, paid their dues, working hard, paying taxes, and they had to move because they didn't feel safe. So we're actually when you

Annasit in a bubble and say, "Oh, you're so mean." You're living outside of reality because they're actually you live in a bubble and these people are the ones getting affected by the illegal immigration. You're not affected by it.

AnnaAnd you're over here on your little palace stool talking, oh these white people are so mean. I didn't say I never said that. I just said there's probably received judgment in the US before. That was my only claim.

SPEAKER_07>> 10. Uh Troy, thank you for the 10. Blake, thank for the 10. Appreciate it. Guys, we also have another champion. Robert Tanner donated $1,000. >> Are you on Discord?

Brian Atlas>> Thanks, Brian, for what you do. >> Thank you, man. Thanks for the show. Question, what is a country? >> What is an American? >> Yo, thank you for that question. I'm going to ask it here in just a moment. Robert, can you message me on Discord?

Brian AtlasUh, I think I have your right username, but I think your username in Discord might be different. Can you send me a message really quick, man? Um, yeah, but thank you. Uh, so the question is, what is a country? What is an American? We

Angelica (DC)can do that super quick and then we'll go back. Starting with you. >> A country I guess would be like a globally like recognized state with a population

Griseldaprobably like by my personal like opinion like recognized by the UN. >> Okay. What about you? >> So I think a country is a you know basically land where actually there's

Griseldapopulation and yeah it's recognized globally. And what is an American? I mean, American I would say is everybody that lives in the American continent. So, yeah. >> You know what? Because I can

Brian Atlaspreemptively I'm actually have telepathy. I can actually read everyone's mind on this. So, I'm just going to uh a country is a distinct defined area of land such as a nation or state that is usually politically independent with its own government,

Brian Atlaspopulation, and borders. And then what is an American? Americans are citizens or nationals of the United States of America. >> Period. >> I disagree. disagree. That's what the the goo the the Google says. >> Are we talking about North America,

Brian AtlasSouth America, Latin America? >> You know what? Let's do this. Uh let's finish up going around the table on the would you rather date a liberal or an illegal immigrant. So, I don't know where we left off. >> Into the mics. >> Legal immigrant. >> Closer to the mic.

Emily Mack>> Yeah. >> Okay. What about you? >> I dated a hardcore liberal and that that was tough. So, definitely illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrant. They're both very bad options. Um, the liberal,

Emily Mackvery emotional men. I'm a tough woman. I can't deal with that. And an illegal immigrant. I would have to be responsible for him if he commits a crime. But I would probably have to go with the illegal immigrant because we'd probably share the same morals and

Allyvalues. >> Illegal immigrant, a liberal. I can change him. I can make him better. >> I have. I have, by the way. >> Not the I can fix it. I love the I have. Yes, I've done it.

Griselda>> I respect that. >> Illegal as well. I have to say just a liberal because I can change them too. >> You can change the little option to change the >> It never works. Well, no.

Brian Atlas>> You could you could change their immigration status. Like what? >> You [ __ ] marry them. >> She's discriminating against us. >> I mean, I'm a liberal, so a liberal. >> Makes sense. Makes sense. Okay. Um,

Brian Atlaslet's uh let's switch the pace here a little bit. Uh, Robert Tanner, just reminder, if you can send me Okay. Uh here uh Robert Tanner, I'm gonna send you a message in Discord here in just a

Brian Atlasmoment. Uh but thank you very guys. W's in the chat for Robert Tanner, man. This guy's a [ __ ] legend. It's a [ __ ] legend. That's two uh $2,000 donations. Uh >> is that another round of champagne or what's >> uh you know, that's what I was that's

Brian Atlaswhat I was going to message him on. I checked the I checked the refrigerator. We're all out of champagne. So, I'm going to ask him if I can do something else or I'll have to like get a I'll have to order some champagne. So, >> Door Dash.

Brian Atlas>> Robert Tanner, I'm going to message you on Discord. Just stay tuned for that. I'm going to see if you're down to swap it for for some sort of other perk or something else besid besides the champagne per pop.

Brian Atlas>> Perk perk. We're not typing perks. >> Uh and if uh but if you insist on the champagne pop, I will order some more champagne. Okay. So, how about we do this uh really quick though? Um do you

Angelica (DC)think we should deport the illegal immigrants? >> Yeah. Okay. Not the way that it's always currently done. Like not the exact methodology, but I believe deportation is like >> so like but you're finding physically

Angelica (DC)apprehending them. >> Well, it depends on how they're being physically apprehended, but assume >> assume it's the necessary amount of force to apprehend somebody. >> Minimum necessary amount of force. Most of the people left because they were

Annaincenti incentivized. Most of the deportation numbers that you're seeing, they were given an option. Leave now, you get this amount of money or leave now and you can come back in X amount of years. That's most of the deportations that are going on right now. Self- deepportation.

Brian Atlas>> Selfport. That is that is true. Stop moving. >> We are we are going to change topics here a little bit. Um >> Riley, uh do you own a firearm? >> Yes, I do. Yes. >> Okay. Um

Brian Atlas>> All right. The question is for the women. Uh, starting with with you. Uh, would you date a man who owns a firearm who's pro- second amendment?

Angelica (DC)>> I live in California in this scenario. I mean, I prefer >> people can own firearms in California. >> I prefer that to not be the case, but it wouldn't be a dealbreaker if I found it out later on. >> So, you'd prefer he not have a firearm? Okay. What about you? >> Oh, yes, of course. I'm

Brian Atlas>> fine with it. Okay. What about you? >> Um, I'm okay with it, too. My husband has guns. >> He has guns. Okay. A little louder when you can, please. Absolutely. I plan on owning a gun. >> Okay. >> Hell yeah. >> Hell yeah. >> No.

Brian Atlas>> Against it. Okay. >> I'd prefer he owns them. >> Okay. >> I'm Texas bread. I have one. >> Uh mustave. Yes. >> Must have gun. Dealbreaker if they don't. Okay. Angelica. What about you? >> Strapped like Rambo.

Frankie>> Strapped like Rambo. Okay. Uh so you said no. You said prefer not to. Why' you say no? Um, I just feel like I don't want to have a gun in the house. I've just seen like a lot of things that happen to

Brian Atlasother people with guns in the house. And >> can I have you scoot your mic that way? >> This way. >> Yeah. Scoot it like Yeah. Uh, a little too much, I think. >> And like have it facing straight. Look in the camera so it's like straight

Brian Atlastowards you. >> Um, straighten it. >> Like Yeah. So it's like 90 degree angle with the table, I guess. >> No. Still [ __ ] it up. over over correction. >> Back the other way. >> There we go. Okay. Go ahead. Continue

Frankiewith your point. >> Yeah. I just seen a lot of things that happen to other people that have guns in the house and I just don't feel like I want that to be an issue with me. Um I don't live in a neighborhood that I feel like I would need one and I don't go places that I feel like I need one. Um I

Frankiedo have shot before and I've been to shooting ranges so I do enjoy that. >> A little bit of paintballing here and there. >> And the people that you know that had issues with guns in the house, were they white or black? >> Um both. >> Okay. >> Mhm. And then kind of what's your position? I

Angelica (DC)guess >> similar reasoning to her and like I just feel like the amount of guns in circulations has a lot to do with the amount of gun violence in the US and I'm just not really for that. >> Does it? >> Not really as a person. >> Well, I mean the US has like a high

Annaamount of gun violence and it has a high amount of guns. Have >> you been to Mexico? >> Yeah. We also have 350 million people and we have we're on the Mexican border. >> I mean we got more guns than people though. Do we >> Well, actually, if you look at the um

Riley Nimithe murder rates of white Americans compared to these European countries, it's actually the same >> if you just go off of white Americans. >> I'm talking about like through gun through >> Yeah. No, no, but off of murders total in general. If you go if you look at white Americans total in like that those

Angelica (DC)are there's like other factors. >> It's saying that more than just guns have killed people. It's there's worse things. >> Well, that's the thing. The whole case way to like there's there's no worse weapon than the whole thing with arena roots. got stabbed in the throat by

Angelica (DC)deadly night by an immigrant. >> Like there's there's violence that doesn't necessitate a gun. At the end of the day, the reason there's such high gun deaths is for the same reason that there's a lot of high violence rates in

Angelica (DC)other countries. The people who are coming from those countries are here and they're propagating that violence. When it comes to any European or white nation, when they have guns, they use it responsibly. In fact, the ADF itself, it's it doesn't even persecute

Angelica (DC)minorities, quote unquote. It persecutes white people from being able to have a bump stop. A lot of these school shooters seem to be Americans from the US. Eminem had the song. Eminem had the song. He said, "People only care when it happens in a white high school." At the end of the day,

Angelica (DC)>> school shootings happen in black neighborhoods, black high schools, black everything so commonly every day. Every black person will confirm that only happens. And it only matters when it's a white person because it's that shocking because it almost never happens.

Angelica (DC)>> I'm not saying it only happens due to white people. And not only that, the rates of white people shooting up schools went dramatically up after they started prescribing trans hormones. Trans people are now dominating school shootings. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Is there something over

Frankiethere? It's literally true. >> Transgenders are violent. Like that's fact right there. >> Why do you think they're dropping their own genitals off? They're violent. >> Very mentally ill. Just like >> difference does it make who's doing the shootings or not? >> I'm still my point regarded the amount

Angelica (DC)of guns in circulation. >> To the question that was just proposed. It's like who cares? >> So then have a mental health test when you're getting the guns. >> Okay. If you're so frightened of being a victim of gun violence, wouldn't you want a gun? >> I I wouldn't want to be sitting here

Angelica (DC)like an empty like a sitting duck. I thought there was just a church. How do you want just talking to me right now? This is like a three zigzag. >> I'm willing to have a conversation going to be like whatever.

Angelica (DC)>> Either way, >> hold up. I didn't say that. Crimes. Sorry. >> Either way, when there are crimes involving guns, they usually not getting them legally. >> Exactly. It's not it's not the owner of

Angelica (DC)the gun that's being that's following the law most of the time. The reason all the laws that they're doing, the mental health nonsense, all of that jazz, it's only affecting legal gun owners that need them for their own protection. It's not affecting the criminal. >> I was just going to say the reason that

Angelica (DC)it's so easy to get them illegally is cuz there's so many in circulation as well. >> No, it's cuz they're coming from Mexico once again and Mexico's getting them from I think well I can't name the saying that we don't need them from

Riley Nimihere. Everyone needs them for you. >> Because there's so many guns, I want a gun. That's why. >> Stop. Stop. Go ahead. If we were to make guns illegal, would there be um less

Riley Nimiillegal gun purchases? >> That's a loaded question. And I don't >> But I mean, like, if we were to ban guns in America, there would probably be be less illegal guns, right? >> I mean, yeah, but I don't necessarily think >> would that wouldn't that also apply to abortion as well? If we were to ban

Riley Nimiabortion, there would be less illegal abortions. Wouldn't you think so? >> Yeah. Okay. What's your point? >> No, I'm just checking. I'm just checking for later in the debate when we talk about it. >> Consistency. Logical consistency. >> Just making sure. >> We're going to talk about >> if we banned abortions, there'd probably be more illegal abortions.

Angelica (DC)>> Okay. So, what do you think about gun laws? If we banned guns, there'd probably be more illegal gun purchases, >> more illegal activity, >> same energy. >> I never I never I never proposed banning guns. I never proposed suddenly banning guns. That was never my claim. >> But you're doing things that are a

Frankieslippy slipper. >> I just said I wouldn't I wouldn't want to date a guy who owned a gun because owning a gun is a slippery slope to want to date. You're making it more and more restrictive as to what you can access. Back in the day, the whole point of the Second Amendment is to choose whether

Riley Nimiyou want a gun or not. It's not everyone anyway. >> So, you're not for banning guns, but you don't want a gun yourself. So, you want everybody else to have access to a gun except yourself? Seems a little bit odd. >> I never said I want everyone else other than myself to have access to a gun. I just said I don't personally one in my

Angelica (DC)household. I've primarily said for the same reasons as her, I just don't feel like it's the safest thing. >> If you personally don't want a gun, same thing with abortion. Why don't you personally not own a gun and let everyone else own whatever they want? Well, I'm letting everyone else on whatever they want. I just don't want

Angelica (DC)one. >> True. Okay. Also, I'm surrounding myself >> I'm surrounding myself with a within a community. >> We weren't talking about Second Amendment. We were talking about do we have a gun? Do we want a gun? That's what we were talking about. >> Or would you date someone? And again, the Second Amendment doesn't say everyone should carry a gun. It says you

Angelica (DC)you have the right to if you want to. >> So, how exactly do you think your man's going to protect you if you don't want him to have >> for what? I said I want to live in California. I want to live in areas. >> There's not gun violence in California. Are you kidding?

Angelica (DC)How is he going to defend you >> if you want him to defend you in front or like >> what's the scenario? >> Technically when you think my man is Batman and that's crazy. That's one

Angelica (DC)that it doesn't matter if the man is going to protect you. It guns are the great equalizer technically for women where it's like you don't have to necessitate physical violence. You have an >> true >> that's not really true. Like guns aren't actually the equalizer between the

Barbara Adamsonsexes. >> What's your logic? strong man. >> Well, cuz men strong men with guns are always going to be a able to overpower women with guns just because of physical

Angelica (DC)force and because of their ability to handle a a firearm better. Correct. But if you're at a distance, you have a better aim at being able to make it more equal. No, like it doesn't matter. It

Angelica (DC)helps. It helps. I'm just saying better. They do have better reactions, but it's just a point second. So, it's like if that point second is really what matters. Okay, the men is going to win. But typically, it's not just a point second. Typically, women can use guns

Angelica (DC)when they're being assaulted. They have it in their purse and they're able to pull it up and like shoot an asalent who doesn't know that they're armed. I mean, you need to when you own a gun, you you have to learn like >> gun weapon safety. Weapon safety.

Angelica (DC)>> You need to learn deescalation tactics. You don't just go straight for the shot. >> Yes, you do. Yes, you do. >> That's the thing that with women, men are going to be better at the marine taught me. >> No. Well, that's true. But the thing is

Angelica (DC)that when it comes to police officers, to your point, female officers, if they're like in a violent encounter, they are more likely to shoot you. So it's like, >> I'm sorry, I'm not risking my life. If you got a gun, I'm pulling it out. I'm

Emily Macksorry. Women are more stressed or more emotional. >> What happened? >> I said, what did Riley say earlier? That women are more stressed. >> Well, yeah, men are men are better at dealing with stress. >> Yeah, men would definitely be more

Riley Nimipowerful. Also, I wanted to ask you, so you said you said that you probably don't need a gun because you live in California and it's low crime, right? >> Well, like the area of California that I would live in as well. >> Okay. Okay. What if you live in Compton? >> I keep talking. >> I wouldn't live in Compton, people. >> Why not?

Riley Nimi>> What about you live in Compton? Why are you using your privilege over there? >> Yeah. Why wouldn't you live in Compton? >> It's just not an area that appeals to me. And this is why you talk because there are other areas that appeal more to me. >> No, but why why does Compton not appeal to you? >> I don't know much about >> It's lower class, >> right? So, you don't know why we're

Angelica (DC)racist. >> Why does it not appeal to you if you don't know much about it? What do you know about Compton? Why would I say >> you tell me the one thing you know about I don't know much about Compton. I'm just guessing it's not as like well >> why would you say that? >> So why cuz you're bringing it up and >> we all know we all know what the answer

Liiis. >> I don't know psychically. Why? >> It's a black neighborhood. >> I mean like the race of the neighborhood's not a big deal to me. But if it's like why would you live in Compton then? >> Because there are areas that I would rather live which areas obviously like

Annathe Bay Area the white area predominantly white affluent area. That's why you don't know anything about immigrants because you don't live around them. >> Why are you defending immigrants? You don't want to live around them. It's like you don't want them in your own

Liineighborhood. >> That's actually what gun crimes are. Okay. So, >> I wouldn't live in the Bay cuz it's white. I would live in it because it's like a very nice area. >> Yeah. Why is it nice? Why is it nice? >> No, it's because it's a white neighborhood. I'll tell you that right now.

Riley Nimi>> It's not like you think I just have some like affinity and love for white people. >> So, explain to me why it's white. >> Well, obviously you don't. You're trying to explain why it's a nice neighborhood. >> The question was there's great schools. There's there's great I know but what makes them nice? You're being circular

Riley Nimiwith great opportunities. Like I grew up there and creates great opportunities. You're being circular. Women do this a lot. Why is it a nice area? Get to the root. >> Stop Riley. >> It's true. >> I mean I grew up there. So there's like a lot of places there that I like. So

Angelica (DC)you're affluent. No, >> you're being so circular. Why you don't know anything that we're talking about? Cuz we don't live around it. >> Literally. She's talking about welfare for people that aren't even belong. >> Would I not want to live in an absolute welfare? The working class. Doesn't

Angelica (DC)everyone want to live in an affluent area? They can. But why? Yeah. So that's not race based, that's economy based. >> But at least people who are not in the affluent circles have like reality. They have point of view perspective as to the real world. People who are just

Annacriticizing me for the entire world is affluent and that it works. We're just criticizing you because you don't know the world. But you look down on people who say things like, "I don't think we should have illegal immigration." Cuz

Angelica (DC)you live nowhere near them and you're not illegal immigration either. I said I wasn't illegal immigration. she would deport them. >> That's actually I said I said I was fine with deportation with the minimum physical force necessary. I said illegal immigration is not a good thing. I say I

Angelica (DC)said it should be prevented in the first place. But you're pulling you're putting words into my mouth twisting my worldviews me over and over again. And when I take they get welfare then we agree. >> Oh my god, your voice is annoying as hell.

Angelica (DC)>> Okay, that's great. You're being racist against a half Puerto Rican. Why are you bigoting? Why are you so bigoted? How is that? No, not Puerto Ricans. Just you. Oh no, no, no, no. That's fine. Oh, I'm introverted compared to them. So, it's really just a cultural thing, right?

Angelica (DC)>> The question is literally would she date somebody? This is an 8 hour podcast. You have to talk about the subjects. We have plenty of time in my mouth. I would I would

Hannahprefer to date a man who owns guns. I like I that I want to, but just because she said she would prefer not to doesn't. You're just totally putting words in her mouth. >> We moved past faster. We were asking all the way around basically and then there

Annawas the whole denial of like no I think you're putting words in her mouth. I don't think so. >> I can't keep track of what she says cuz she says something then takes it back. So I >> I can keep track of what I what I say. You can because you guys keep twisting the things I say. >> Can you please give me an example of

Angelica (DC)when we twisted something or when we ended up moving the gold post >> when you said I was for illegal immigration. What >> you declaring during the first part? >> You were when I said that I was for deportation. When I said that I was for >> Oh my god. >> She ended the argument with I'm not for

Angelica (DC)it. I finally agreed. That's the whole point of a conversation is to get >> She does kind of keep on changing what she said. >> I got to be honest, I wasn't paying attention. >> Okay, cool. I said that.

Angelica (DC)>> Yeah, because this is like just circles. >> I also like probably cuz her voice was drowning it out. God damn. >> At the end of the day, all you have is my voice because you're not speaking up for your own point of view. You have no articulation when it comes to your own point of view. So, my voice at least what I think. That was the last thing I

Hannahsaid. >> You actually been condescending this entire time. I don't I actually disagree with that. Honestly, she snickered at me for something I said. >> We're on different pages, but I I don't think she's been honestly I'm not going to lie. I think honestly I

Angelica (DC)think Hannah is just like the quintessential sweet feminine girl who whenever someone gets dogpiled, she just has to defend them. She's just like, I can't I can't tolerate this. You can acknowledge the dog humor. >> Nothing. That's what I'm saying. I'm

Angelica (DC)flattering you. I'm saying that I don't support that. >> But at the same time, logically speaking, this is not the case. Everyone here is saying that also what's a what's a bigger net benefit on the world? You being nice to her or her making a great

Hannahargument and changing tens of thousands of people's minds on this podcast make a great argument. But I think if you really want to make a great argument, you need to actually talk and like have some type like you guys are

Hannahjust yelling going at you aggressive. If you really want to learn how to communicate with somebody, you actually you need to also be open to listening to hear just speaking over her. You keep bashing. >> She's been listening her opinions out,

Angelica (DC)but like, do you hear your tone even now? Like, and I'm being so serious. >> She called me hostile, by the way. >> Like, you're the podcast started as opposed to >> And now she's speaking softly to try to speak the same very clear. I'm going to

Angelica (DC)make this very clear when it comes to feminine dialogue, which I appreciate should be promoted. When it comes to feminine dialogue, which I think should be encouraged and promoted, Hannah is the best example of someone trying to

Angelica (DC)facilitate a kind dialogue when it comes to political subjects, which actually proves the point. When it comes to political subjects, you enter the masculine aggressive field because policy matters. So when you're going to talk about policy, as you've been doing,

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