06:25:52Brian Atlascould be wrong if somebody wants to fact check me uh feminist organizations said no no no no no no no no no we're fighting against
06:26:02Brian Atlasequality there is some benefit or some basis for having women the custody either they're more likely to get it or defaulting to them or something like
06:26:13Brian Atlasthis um so often times feminist organizations will actually fight against equality again if it somehow conceivably could be
06:26:23Brian Atlasto the detriment of women even if even if it would create equality between men
06:26:29Brian Atlasand women so um moving on to the next thing uh you uh two of you said women
06:26:38Brian Atlasdisagreed that women are not oppressed that was Amanda and I think Isabella
06:26:46Amandaum Amanda how are women oppressed I mean I think that the double standard of [ __ ] shaming is a perfect example of Oppression against okay anything else
06:26:58Andrew Wilsonbesides that um I mean not in the United States okay why is that uh I I don't actually
06:27:10Andrew Wilsonunderstand how is that oppressive they're oppressed they can't be [ __ ] Andrew yeah how's that how is it oppressive to hold a stigma against women who have a high body count other
06:27:20Amandawomen do as well it's not just men yeah I understand that I think that I don't think we should be shaming people for their body counts
06:27:30Amandaso the dou I think that the double standard for men comparatively to women is where the oppression comes in you're using intimidation the double standard that it's okay for a woman or for a man
06:27:42Andrew Wilsonto have a high body count but not a woman yeah what's wrong with that so yeah what's I don't understand how that's oppressive that's your opinion I think that it's oppressive well I haven't given an opinion I'm just telling you I
06:27:53Amandadon't actually understand why it's oppressive though yeah how how's it oppressive you're trying to influence her personal decision making based on your intimidation factors we should well
06:28:04Andrew Wilsonwell well wait hang on a second how are you trying to influence her personal decision making by making her feel bad about what she's doing so the well the
06:28:14Andrew Wilsonstigma you're saying that the social stigma uh as relayed by men is just that they don't prefer women who have high body counts right can sorry you cut out there a second can you cut when you say
06:28:26Amandawhen you say [ __ ] shaming what does that mean like are men walking down the street and just calling women [ __ ] or no I mean like like the so the fact that
06:28:37AmandaI think the earlier conversation was women with a high body count don't necessarily deserve right the what was the term um a
06:28:48Brian Atlastraditional man a sh yeah a shival or traditional man well I I was making that argument when it comes to sex workers but sure yeah like yeah yeah I'm I'm fine with it yeah fine with that and so
06:29:00AmandaI think that you know having that perspective is I don't let me think about how to articulate this so the oppression comes
06:29:10Amandafrom the Judgment position right like it at the end of the day the Judgment does not lie with you the individual it lies between that person and who they are meeting at the end of their life and so that's where I I think that trying to
06:29:24Amandause our what's uh human bodies to influence other humans doesn't NE I think that that's oppressive to that person it's not it's not of our business what's
06:29:34Andrew Wilsongoing on over there okay let's say for a second that um I don't know 70% of men or no let's make it higher I'll say 90%
06:29:45Andrew Wilsonof men and 90% of women um were not promiscuous and stayed virgins until the day they got married and only 10% didn't
06:29:54Amandawould it be okay to [ __ ] shame then [ __ ] shame the 10% mhm no I don't think that you should
06:30:05Andrew Wilsonshame anyone for their sexuality or activity now okay gotcha so the oppression here if if it came from both men and women would be creating the
06:30:16Amandasocial stigma around the promiscuity correct the oppression would be surrounding the promiscuity yeah yeah stigma around it yeah like I'm anti this
06:30:27Andrew Wilsonyes yeah but the thing is is like can you think of a better way to influence out of society things that you don't want in society than using social
06:30:39Amandastigma I mean I think you use this example recently and and like the rebuttal to that came to mind for me would be uh prohibition right like we tried the Government tried to kind of
06:30:50Andrew Wilsonlike get our drinking problem under control by well that wasn't by stigma that was via law fair so they just made it they just outlawed it outright it was not due to social stigma so nobody's
06:31:01Amandaoutlawing you but there quotquot stigma that led to the legislation from women yeah women did that that's correct no I'm not kidding it's really I believe it I have no doubt
06:31:13Andrew Wilsonthey they they had the temperance movement that's what led to that so but the thing is is uh the social stigma which was there which led to lawfare uh ended up uh being repealed very very
06:31:26Andrew Wilsonvery quickly nobody's talking about making a law that says that you can't be promiscuous what I'm asking is if there was a behavior in society which was
06:31:37Andrew Wilsonwhich people didn't like then creating a social stigma wouldn't that be an efficient way to get rid of the behavior it I don't think that it's a fullprof method so I don't think that
06:31:48Andrew Wilsonit's appropriate no well what what method would be appropriate I mean I don't think you can control anyone yeah I mean we clearly control we
06:31:59Andrew Wilsoncontrol people all the time I mean you stop at a stop sign right clearly yeah I mean you're clearly control you control them all the time you you put in lines and stop signs you got to get
06:32:10Andrew Wilsondriver's licenses you have to fill out paperwork I mean it's an entire grid of in fact they say most of your day you were controlled like just getting from point A to point B it's control control control control control control right so
06:32:22Andrew WilsonI don't know what you mean by we don't control people we definitely control people control the [ __ ] out of people so the the question is like why why is it bad to have a social stigma against a
06:32:32Amandasomething in society that people tend not to care for that seems fine to me I think that sex is a very natural part of life and it should be talked about more
06:32:41Amandafreely in a way that is empowering and not diminishing and that's where I think the true power of a person sexuality comes from and that education and having
06:32:53Amandatransparent conversations not just with their friends but with people that are talking to them about sex like I don't know I I've never heard this conversation kind of come up but are you
06:33:02Amandaan abstinence own sex education person or are you in a a full like what's your position on that do you think that they should teach abstinence only or all-inclusive sex education I think uh I
06:33:14Andrew Wilsonthink that considering for most of our history most women and men were virgins on their wedding night this is a brand new occurrence uh if you look at the rate of STI um you know unplanned pregnancies
06:33:27Andrew Wilsonwhich lead to abortion all these other factors I can't actually think of a good reason why we a society would not want to promote abstinence until marriage I actually can't think of a single good
06:33:39Amandareason for that do you have one yeah I think sexual health is a very good reason to teach all-inclusive sex education what would that have to do
06:33:49Amandawith sexual health being aware of what's supposed to be happening with your body and what's not you can be aware of all of that and stay absent like what would that have to do if we as let's say we as
06:34:00Andrew Wilsona society you still get sex ed you know how all the parts function how all the parts work right nobody's nobody's saying you can Outlaw that we we've had sexed by the way for a long time but I
06:34:12Andrew Wilsondon't I don't agree with how Society if we as a society said okay we're going to run a national campaign and the national campaign is designed to promote
06:34:23Andrew Wilsonabstinence until marriage and not sleeping around with people outside of marriage what what would actually be the negative side effect of society of that I think the misunderstanding of
06:34:35Amandaknowledge and the secretiveness is where the danger comes from so just like if you tell a kid don't drink right your parents all tell us don't drink we all end up stealing alcohol from our parents and having bad experiences and so from
06:34:47Andrew Wilsonmy perspective I think it's better to why not just hand them the beer I mean there are some parents that do yeah so I mean so so your argument here is like you got to go [ __ ] people or else you're
06:34:59Andrew Wilsongoing to go [ __ ] people uh I think you should have a pretty solid understanding of your sexual awareness before you go why wouldn't we run a national campaign so why wouldn't we instead run a
06:35:10Andrew Wilsonnational campaign advising people to go have as much sex as possible I mean I would tell people they should masturbate for sure yeah want national campaign for masturbation so the your your argument
06:35:23Andrew Wilsonhere is so let me just ask you this if we ran a national campaign just advertisements only from the federal government a promotion in other words that people had more sex do you think
06:35:34Amandapeople would have more sex if we ran a national campaign that they should have more sex yeah do I think that they would
06:35:45Amandayeah that's a that's a weighted question in today's media um I think that if you're not a freeth thinker yeah you might be inclined to that I look at anything coming from any sort of media
06:35:56Andrew Wilsonas educational well this wouldn't just be media right yeah I mean you can't say propaganda doesn't work look smoking smoking used to you could used to be able to smoke everywhere you ever wanted
06:36:07Andrew Wilsonto smoke and through massive massive media and government propaganda it's been essentially outlawed everywhere the only place you could really smoke is
06:36:17Andrew Wilsonlike outside but even in in some outdoor areas it's usually confined now and it used to be that if you were in that studio and it was filled with smoke that would just been have been life right so
06:36:28Andrew WilsonI mean clearly it works uh same thing with getting people to smoke they ran a huge campaign to do that and it got almost everybody smoking so I mean clearly it works so by that M KN that
06:36:39Andrew Wilsonsorry sorry sorry go ahead go ahead goad goad so by that metric knowing that if you were to run a national campaign for abstinence don't you think less people would have sex if they saw that as like being
06:36:52Andrew Wilsonpatriotic and there was less social and there was a big social stigma against it and all the government agencies were telling you this is bad for the country we need to not do this don't you think
06:37:03Andrew Wilsonless people would have sex it it could be likely yeah so I mean so my question is like why what are the negative side
06:37:13Isabella/TTSeffects of that of less people having sex before they're married I'm going to have her answer you guys can continue actually I'll just trigger I'll play I'll play it now then lol paladins
06:37:24Isabella/TTSdonated $100 thank you Paladin I'm shocked so very shocked that the woman who wants to cheat on her partner comes to the defense of women who want to be
06:37:34AmandaSLS you are everything that is wrong with dating and marriage uh law paladins by the way you can still on the to cheat on my husband okay like I'm pretty sure
06:37:43Brian AtlasI didn't but love pal by the way you can do the little trick thingy for the audio on these two but thank you so much for the message La paladins also guys um
06:37:54Brian Atlaswe're getting into the rast section here so um from here on out the TTS has just been lowered to uh we're going to do $20 TTS uh we're GNA pause you can send them
06:38:05Brian Atlasin we're going to pause it then once we get through everything we'll let the row session come through go ahead if do you want to respond to L paladins uh yeah I never said I wanted to cheat on my husband so I don't know what that's about and then uh did you I
06:38:19Andrew Wilsondon't know if you're the question very quickly if it were the case that if you were to run a national campaign like that like we did against smoking and drunk driving and
06:38:31Andrew Wilsonthings like that which have been highly highly effective and it actually led to way less sex in society until people were married I can't think of a single actual
06:38:40Amandadownside to that I mean I guess I would only rebuttal with I think that especially as a woman in today's society right like we are having a transition of time periods I think being aware of your
06:38:52Amandasexuality going into a relationship is very important because how can you be comfortable having those conversations with your partner if you haven't had those moments with yourself well how do
06:39:03Andrew Wilsonyou think that people used to do it like in the in the 20s and 30s and 40s when they were getting married when they were virgins it didn't it didn't seem like somebody had like go in and show the man where the penis went premarital sex you know what I mean premarital sex still
06:39:16Amandahappened back then children I know but not for the M majority of people I understand that but the like so so why how theyig now right divorce is more easily attainable I think that yeah they
06:39:28Andrew Wilsonhad less divorces too because it wasn't allowed you know it wasn't it was allowed yes just not no fault you had to go show a cause but yeah it was definitely allowed right but sometimes even getting your ass beat by your
06:39:39Andrew Wilsonhusband wasn't cause enough for a divorce so that's where yeah you could show cause and your show cause would be I got my ass be by my husband and the state would give you a divorce that was one of the causes for sure but when it's
06:39:50Amandaa male dominated industry back then the divorces weren't granted if transition if you don't mind me jumping in I would like to just go back to my previous question just very quickly yeah what so you're saying that the negative side
06:40:02Andrew Wilsoneffect would be that you think women should be out there having sex before they settle down with a man is that correct I think the negative side effect of of waiting until marriage yeah of
06:40:14Andrew Wilsonabstinence and more people were abstinent and didn't have sex until marriage your downside of uh knowing your sexuality is basically saying that you think women should be having sex before they settle down with a man I
06:40:27Amandathink that they need to be comfortable in sexual scenarios before does that they need to [ __ ] right they need to [ __ ] it it can be anything you can have make sessions you can have there's lots of things leading up to intercourse that
06:40:39Andrew Wilsonyou can do before then so having suck dick sorry what's that do they need to suck dick before they if that's what they feel like they need to figure out then sure so so the idea here is that
06:40:50Andrew Wilsonyou would be opposed to this because you think that women need to be [ __ ] before they settle down and they need to be sucking dick they are comfortable in their
06:41:00Andrew Wilsonsexuality does that even make sense to you should be experiencing it everybody should be out there should should the men be out there sucking dick too if
06:41:09Brian Atlasthat's what they're into what uh wait I don't know if we fully got a answer on this but um how exactly is it that women are oppressed if they are being I think
06:41:22Brian AtlasI don't know if [ __ ] shamed is that what your position is like uh the double standard is oppressive to women yes just
06:41:34Amandaum how I'm just how is it oppressive I think that I don't think that a woman who is experienced sexually should be
06:41:46Brian Atlasshamed okay and well I think we it is a bit we can have that conversation I don't know if it's oppressive like I don't think it it's oppression I can just very quickly Grant
06:41:57Andrew Wilsonit sure they shouldn't be shamed so nobody says hey you're a skank you're [ __ ] you're this or that but if all men collectively decided that it was against her preference to have a woman with a high body count would that still be oppression that's their prerogative
06:42:10Andrew Wilsonthere's still going to be a man that's going to be down with it down to wait wait no no no they there would be a massive social stigma against those women they just wouldn't [ __ ] shame them they just wouldn't get together with
06:42:21Andrew Wilsonthem would that be oppressive I mean those women wouldn't exist without the men that were [ __ ] them in the first place so oh no let's just say it was a very small amount like 2 or 3% of men who were doing most of
06:42:32Andrew Wilsonthe [ __ ] making meaning that they had like 10 women for every one man under this hypergamous Society of which I can point to many right the top like 5 10%
06:42:45Andrew Wilsonright they made all the [ __ ] and the other 90% of men just didn't want to get with him is that oppression um I mean those are separate societies so
06:42:57Andrew Wilsonthey're not like no no no it's the same Society just 90% of men don't want to get together with all of the [ __ ] who were made [ __ ] by only 10% of men who were able to get those women so 90% of
06:43:10Andrew Wilsonall the [ __ ] are made by only 10% of the men I'm sorry 100% of the [ __ ] are made by only 10% of the men 90% of the men do not make the [ __ ] but refuse to
06:43:18Andrew Wilsondate the [ __ ] is that oppression no and that is the society that me and Brian advocate for we advocate for the society where if it
06:43:29Andrew Wilsonwere the case that there was a well I don't know like 10% of men who took advantage of the hypergamous nature of women and therefore if we were to reap
06:43:40Andrew Wilsoncertain reports for instance which say hey there's how is it possible that we have 60 or 70% of men who haven't who have no uh girlfriend but we have 60% of
06:43:52Andrew Wilsonwomen or 70% of women reporting they do have a boyfriend that means that they must be dating the same Poise right things like that those those aren't accurate numbers but just for like the sake of argument if it's close enough to
06:44:04Andrew Wilsondemonstrate the point if that is the case right then what then it's not social shame that those men refuse to end up with those women right you're I guess basically the only beef that you
06:44:15Andrew Wilsonwould have would be with the guys you were [ __ ] right where the [ __ ] were [ __ ] that would be the only
06:44:23Brian Atlasbeef sure yeah uh I mean great and I guess quick thing on the I guess moving off the oppression though you do have an
06:44:33Brian Atlasissue with the double standard uh who who here thinks it's a bit you know unfair that you know women perhaps are more shamed than men when it comes to like uh
06:44:46Brian Atlasbeing promiscuous that's your that's your grievance right unfair I feel yeah it's a double standard but I mean or the
06:44:55Brian Atlasother thing is like well why is it that H there's yeah but what's wrong with double standards anyway double standard are fine yeah like for example I don't think there's perfect like
06:45:06Brian Atlassymmetry uh on this thing because women desire all kinds of things in a partner in a boyfriend that they don't bring to the table so like for example would it be a
06:45:18Brian Atlasdou double standard a guy with a high body count he's like I only want to date virgins that's his prerogative he likes inexperienced women that's
06:45:28Brian Atlasfine but like is the you consider that like a double standard or you might even say kind of like hypocritical or wrong for a guy with a high body gown to be
06:45:39Brian Atlaslike oh I'd rather date a woman with a low body count or a virgin I don't know if that I mean or or is it just like are you saying oh just preferences I guess that's fine yeah I
06:45:52Amandathink that's his preference I don't I think it's is it weird is it a weird preference or uh yeah I think it's kind of well no I don't think it's well I don't know that's a weighted question I think can be weird depending on the
06:46:04Amandamotivation for wanting the body count if it's just because he wants someone that has a low body count and he's been through them and he kind of knows how it goes then uh that's one
06:46:16Amandathing but I think that there can be many motivations for that position okay the the oppression of [ __ ] [ __ ] shaming shall not stop tell the oppression
06:46:28Andrew Wilsonagainst women being such height supremacist stops until women stop oppressing men based on their height they must not ever give up on the fight
06:46:39Andrew Wilsonof of oppressing them back based on their promiscuity that seems like if it if you don't want to hold the double standard right you would have to say that men are quite oppressed by women
06:46:50Brian Atlaswho shame them often for not reaching their height requirements they are height supremacists it's true wait I guess one
06:47:00Brian Atlasthing on this so uh do you think think hookup culture is good or bad um hookup culture I think is so I guess
06:47:11Brian Atlasthe tendency of people to engage in casual sexual encounters or like the movement away from or devaluing of monogamous long-term
06:47:23Brian Atlasrelationships movement away from movement away from that so I mean hookup culture would Pro I mean it's more so like the action of like people engaging in promiscuity um having multiple sexual partners or
06:47:36Brian Atlaseven having a string of just casual sexual partners kind of evading or movement away from long-term monogamous relationships I think uh hookup culture
06:47:47Amandacan serve some purpose in that which is what sorry go ahead I didn't mean to cut you off goe um I so I think that hookup culture can serve some purpose um I
06:47:59Amandathink that STDs are you going to keep interrupting me or do I get to finish my whole thought okay thank you so I think hookup culture can be positive in some ways but
06:48:10AmandaI do think it has taken back from our relationship building skills I think that social media especially has been detrimental to the expectation of Lifestyles it's a highlight reel
06:48:22Amandaeverything you put online is a highlight reel and so I think uh much like the conversations of equality and um you know disagreements and relationships I think people just easier now with hookup
06:48:34Amandaculture to like walk away with it and be done and move on to the next where so that's a detriment to us but I think that um the sex positivity that comes from being affirmed in your position and
06:48:47Amandayour choices and knowing what you like and don't like is going to help you find a better partner in the long run so how about this in totality is hookup culture good or bad granting that maybe there are some good things about hookup
06:48:59Amandaculture I'm sure you probably agree there's some bad uh in in total is it good or bad I don't know the answer to that I can't I don't I can't decide which way
06:49:11Andrew Wilsonone way or the other let me ask the rest of the panel hookup culture good or bad now Bri Brian I'm um I'm at 3:00 a.m. my time I got my uh my out there but I am
06:49:22Brian Atlasgoing to do a raid before you Andrew before you go before you go I'll make one quick Point here I did want you to you want to do like a quick two minutes on n let me um just the point I guess
06:49:35Brian Atlasthe point I was trying to make on that is that uh when it comes to I guess the the shaming you object to the shaming uh I think most people tend to agree that hookup culture is bad we're obviously not going to be able to pass any laws
06:49:47Brian Atlasthat put any sort of limits on men or women's uh sexual activity so the only way if we as a society deem hookup culture to like we can't have our cake
06:49:58Brian Atlasand eat it too if hookup what's the entailment of uh hookup culture bad we want it to go away okay we need to uh we need to build up long-term relationships
06:50:09Brian Atlaswe need to uh stifle not through laws but through social shaming promiscuity the only way to do that again we're not going to pass laws saying you can't like [ __ ] people or whatever maybe I don't
06:50:20Brian Atlasknow maybe but uh that's not going to happen because we you know whatever so the only way to achieve the destruction or reduction or limitation of hookup
06:50:32Brian Atlasculture is by shaming airG go shaming promiscuity is good and it's the only way to stop
06:50:43Brian Atlashookup culture any thoughts on that no so do you you you're on my team like we should shame [ __ ] no I'm not on your team I disagree and [ __ ] boys no [ __ ] boy
06:50:55Brian Atlasshaming no [ __ ] shaming I mean if we're if we're not slaming not shaming any of the [ __ ] then okay so then I mean well you weren't able to give me a definitive if you think hookup culture overall in
06:51:07Brian Atlastotality is good or bad I think everybody else here said it was bad I think it's bad the only way we're going to achieve like if something is bad we should probably do something to like
06:51:18Brian Atlascounteract it in this case the only means of achieving a reduction or elimination of hookup culture would be like substantial social shaming of
06:51:28Brian Atlaspromiscuity [ __ ] [ __ ] boys this sort of thing absent that it's going to continue it's going to get worse STD rates are going to continue to rise rise rise people are going to be continue to be
06:51:40Brian Atlasdissatisfied in relationships people are going to continue um getting into uh other sort of bad situations when it comes to Casual sexual encounters in any case um Andrew you do have to leave so
06:51:52Andrew Wilsonuh you wanted to do quick response to Michael nolles yeah yeah so very quickly too it was uh nice to meet the entire panel and I'm very glad that you guys came on we were able to have have this
06:52:03Andrew Wilsonuh actually fairly reasonable discussion most of the night it was uh was kind of that doesn't happen that often right usually we have at least a couple like you've been on a few you've been on a
06:52:14Andrew Wilsonfew of these panels you know but anyway so yeah over to the Michael no's thing uh he had prefaced a uh video uh it was an exchange I had with another guest on
06:52:25Andrew Wilsonhere Nala but he had prefaced it with he doesn't want to get involved in any drama and I think that that's fine so I'm not to give him any uh but I do want to say this that most of the people who
06:52:37Andrew Wilsonhave reacted poorly to this clip whether it's to me or to her probably didn't actually watch the entire episode and they probably need to do that before they say a word about it my challenge to
06:52:48Andrew WilsonMichael nolles is that I've I've seen a lot of the kind of sniping around about the manosphere and this and that and kind of taking the more feminist perspective and I'd like to challenge Michael NES to a debate on the whatever
06:53:01Andrew Wilsonpodcast uh just 1 V one he's been on before so have I we know Brian Atlas will be a fair moderator and be the reason I would like to challenge him to this debate is
06:53:12Andrew Wilsonbecause the only time I've ever seen him actually engage with this fear which is full of the most degenerate scumbags on planet Earth um was in a debate against
06:53:23Andrew WilsonPearl Davis and I was the one who prepped her for that debate so I would actually like to uh take him on on his various views because I don't I think he knows very much about what he's talking
06:53:34Andrew Wilsonabout on this topic and I'm an Orthodox Christian uh he's a Catholic and I think it would be absolutely fine to have uh such a debate so that would be my
06:53:44Andrew Wilsonchallenge to Michael nolles and also that uh ultimately I think most people have a very very wrong idea about what happens with the uh former prostitute to
06:53:57Andrew Wilsonsave your pipeline which is currently happening right under everybody's nose and we just TR to pretend that it's not happening and I think that it's something that needs to be addressed I'm often criticized for not taking on the
06:54:09Andrew Wilsonbest of the best Debaters even though I do uh so right now you can see publicly I'm offering such a challenge and uh I will of course split the uh tab with
06:54:20Andrew WilsonBrian Atlas along with a reasonable fee if that's what Michael wants to come out to whatever podcast have this much needed debate so that's what I'd like to
06:54:31Andrew Wilsonsay on that can we see the clip uh it's very very long yeah and he's not here he's not here to defend himself in all fairness one thing that Brian's always been really good about right is if the
06:54:43Andrew Wilsonperson is not there to defend themselves he usually won't allow people to say one one way or the other about them that's always been a good thing about Brian Atlas so we'll uh we'll leave it there
06:54:54Andrew Wilsonbut uh yeah clip it ship it let's see if he if uh if it's actually true that he will tangle up on these issues which is a place where he's desperately needed uh so that we can at least get his side
06:55:06Brian Atlasversus mine and uh and I'll leave it there yeah Andrew thank you for coming uh one quick question for you if you have a just another minute sure uh there was I guess one of the confusions here
06:55:17Brian Atlasat least there was some implication of whatever because there's claims that it was misleadingly cut but I mean even in
06:55:26Brian Atlasthe short which is like 40 50 seconds itself at least in my interpret mind you my editor made the clip I we pump out 30 Clips a day I don't really I give them that's not what happened it had nothing
06:55:38Andrew Wilsonto do with the clip yeah what happened yeah here well here's what happened there was a clip that Nala lied about everything clip that was released by whatever and it was actually even contextualized in the clip what it was
06:55:50Andrew Wilsonsome other account posted this clip I've never seen this account before they posted the clip and it said under Nala lies about being a Christian admits to lying about
06:56:02Andrew Wilsoneverything that had nothing to do with whatever's account right and so they were trying to say that the whatever podcast had click baited that whatever podcast didn't do anything they just did their normal Clips some other account
06:56:14Andrew Wilsonput that as the headliner I actually went to that account I had retweeted it first right and then I read what the header on it was that she had lied about being a Christian I actually deleted the
06:56:26Andrew WilsonTweet went over immediately and put underneath that tweet from that account uh no this is not accurate that is not what she was talking about so uh somebody who was on that whatever
06:56:37Andrew Wilsonbroadcast had clarified that within like a couple of minutes anyway so it's ridiculous to try to throw shade on whatever for just a a regular normal
06:56:47Brian Atlasclick or a normal clip I even even in that short clip I think we we certainly included Parts where she's essentially saying uh I don't think there's any
06:56:57Brian Atlasimplication that cuz they I think other people took it to mean or even perhaps I think Michael even understood the context but took it to
06:57:07Brian Atlasmean that Nala went on Michael ns' show and lied I don't think that's the context of the clip the context of the clip is was while she was still active
06:57:18Andrew Wilsondoing only fans she was going on podcasts and lying then this is one of the this this that particular episode has the most selectively edited clips of
06:57:30Andrew Wilsonany episode I've seen come off of whatever not just by um a couple of accounts but by hundreds of people I I've seen many exchanges where uh Rachel
06:57:40Andrew Wilsonand her had the exchange and they selectively edited out that Rachel said to her I don't believe you're a Christian because you deny the Trinity and this and that and all it said is I don't think you're a Christian and then
06:57:52Andrew Wilsonit cuts to her saying because you don't know church history so it is some of the most widely selectively edited content that I've ever seen and it's because so many people have a stake
06:58:02Brian Atlasin this current phenomenon of the former prostitute to save your pipeline and that's why I think it needs to be hashed out so badly got it cool well hey Andrew
06:58:12Brian Atlasthank you for uh tuning tuning in we'll uh try to get that set up with uh with Michael all right guys thanks so much I appreciate cono was very nice to meet all of you thank you for joining us Andrew do appreciate small fan girl
06:58:24Amandamoment when Rachel wanted to throw me a comment on me so shout out to Rachel yeah Rachel's awesome take care guys y thank you Andrew appreciate it have a good night man uh okay so we're going to
06:58:36Brian Atlasdo the row session here in just a moment then we're going to wrap up the show uh a few last F were there any other things for like women being oppressed or no you said women are oppressed why why are women oppressed that was my adq reading
06:58:48Brian Atlasthe question wrong it's not the wrong word okay fair enough fair enough and then I'm pretty sure there's just uh let's see uh you can Cena you can be racist towards white people you disagree
06:59:03Brian AtlasI disagree as in like I said I cannot you cannot no it says you can be racist towards white people you disagree so you think you can't be racist no okay she misread it then all right and then let's see
06:59:18Brian Atlashere I uh the final thing from the questionnaire then goes to Isabella Isabella it says here it's not straight for a man to date a transom to which you disagree
06:59:32Brian Atlaswait it's not oh boy there no read it again read it again room temp okay you circled disagree too it's not straight for a man to date a
06:59:43Brian Atlastransom it's it is it is it is straight for a man today to trans woman right yeah so you would you you would disagree that
06:59:53Brian Atlasit's not straight so you're your position is it's straight for a man to date a transom yes okay uh give me one sec to get right guys I
07:00:05Brian Atlasknow there's uh the the roast coming in they're on hold we will get to them in just a moment uh so this is the final thing from the
07:00:13Isabellaquestionnaire uh H just curious how's it straight if they identify as a woman they're seen as a woman if they have they can sex change well you can't
07:00:24Brian Atlaschange your sex oh I mean surgery to change your private does that make you a woman yes what if you don't identify as a woman but you have that procedure are
07:00:36Brian Atlasyou a woman like if you're a unic or something does that make you a woman yes wait so if you get your penis chopped off but
07:00:46Brian Atlasyou don't ID as a woman oh wait no no no no you you get the surgery yeah you get your penis chopped
07:00:54Brian Atlasoff does that make you a woman you still ID as a man oh no I I think what you are is what you see yourself as but so you can
07:01:04Brian AtlasID as a woman even without getting the surgery right yeah yeah uh so it all comes down to your self ID right uh
07:01:15Brian Atlasso I guess my question to you is on this one um let me see did Andrew one sec I'm checking this
07:01:24Brian Atlasum so uh what is a woman um a woman someone who identifies as a woman can you define that without
07:01:36Brian Atlasusing the word woman who identifies with feminine femin feminine virtues yeah but can you define woman
07:01:48Brian Atlaswithout using the word woman feminine virtues can you define woman without using the word feminine no okay um oh you have
07:02:00Brian Atlassomething yeah natural grown laas okay that's reasonable that's reasonable so okay you're saying it would be
07:02:11Brian Atlasstraight straight for a man to date a trans woman yeah I think you could be straight and J by the way what's your orientation straight byra okay um straight so you would date uh a trans
07:02:23Isabellawoman it's my preference and I wouldn't or sorry excuse me I know you you would date a trans man I pre I wouldn't because I don't prefer that but I think other people can and they can be valid
07:02:35Isabellait's just preference right you got preference but the trans man is a man isn't it yes so you wouldn't date a
07:02:43Brian Atlasman if not with a vagina no well the trans the uh post it would be a
07:02:51Brian Atlaspostoperative trans man would you date them if I wasn't taken yeah maybe okay sure um but you wouldn't date a pre-operative
07:03:02Brian Atlastrans man no even though it's still a man preoperatively okay um so a couple questions here um so there's gender and sex are you you're familiar with the difference right yes okay um
07:03:16Brian Atlasso can people change their gender yes can people change their sex no okay uh so a male cannot become a
07:03:26Brian Atlasfemale um their sex ass sign of birth no well their sex change your sex at any point whether it's assigned at Birth whether it's assigned right now when I'm
07:03:36Brian Atlaslooking at all of you as females um you can't change your sex right okay uh what does straight what what is straight slang
07:03:47Isabellafor het we opposite gender well you're about to say heterosexual attraction to the opposite gender but you're about to say heterosexual and I corrected myself so
07:03:58Brian Atlasoh it wouldn't be heterosexual or it would be are straight people heterosexual yes okay uh straight means heterosexual unless you have some other
07:04:08Brian Atlasdefinition of straight right okay um and so when we say homosexual we mean samesex relationship right mhm okay and you
07:04:19Brian Atlaswould agree or you've already conceded can't okay hold on okay okay okay so you've already conceded though that
07:04:28Brian Atlasuh that transgender women have not changed their sex mhm so do you agree or disagree with the following statement uh a transgender
07:04:39Isabellawoman is male oh my friends are going to hate me stop please um it looking at it through sex you no
07:04:51Brian Atlasyou can't change your sex can't change so a transgender woman is a man no well I'm even going to be I guess nice here and say that you can change
07:05:03Brian Atlasyour gender I don't think this actually but for the sake of the conversation so you can change your gender right yeah trans transgender woman you can self ID as a woman um but you've already agreed
07:05:15Brian Atlaswith me that you can't change your sex right yeah so they were they were um they're male but their gender identity is woman yeah right
07:05:23Brian Atlasum so trans uh a transgender woman is male you agree with this through sex yeah their gender identity would be a woman yeah but their sex is male male
07:05:35Brian Atlasyes um and then so homosexual means samesex relationship right so two males engaging in a romantic or sexual relationship would be homosexual okay
07:05:46Brian Atlasokay so a man dating a transgender woman is homosexual okay all right there you go um do you want to change your position
07:05:56Brian Atlason this at all or like so is it not straight
07:06:05Isabellah i mean you're right I I don't know I want to let I people can believe what they I don't know you can go me in a
07:06:14Brian Atlastricky situation okay so is it straight
07:06:21Brian Atlasno even post-operatively um preoperatively no how about this a couple questions then um a few scenarios I mean you've already kind of yeah you
07:06:33Brian Atlasyou I'll give you a scenario I'll give you a scenario though uh would a man giving oral sex to a transgender woman with a penis is that uh heterosexual or homosexual homosexual okay a man having
07:06:45Brian Atlaspenetrative anal sex with a transgender woman is that heterosexual or homosexual the man's he could be receiving or giving
07:06:56Brian Atlashomosexual okay a lesbian woman being penetrated by a transgender woman with with a penis is that heterosexual or homosexual homosexual all right you're all your friends are going to hate you now good
07:07:08Brian Atlasjob uh you can tell them I I guess I forced you um toing all right uh that's the fin guys sorry there's a bit of delay on some of the ttss some of them fell off don't worry I'll get them I'll get them pulled back up so if it's out
07:07:20Brian Atlasof order don't worry guys I'm going to get to the ttss now $20 TTS guys we're going to do the row session then we're going to wrap Josh donated $20 change the bear
07:07:32Isabella/TTSquestion to this in 10 seconds all of a sudden the whatever studio is empty except for the woman and either a man or a bear door is welded shut no one can open it for 10 hours
07:07:45Isabella/TTSchoose H interesting all right hold on guys uh sorry guys a couple of these fell off I'm gonna have to L paladins donated $20
07:07:57Isabella/TTSwish.com desire a needs to fully double down on this question about how she is going to teach children how to give [ __ ] feminists are destroying our
07:08:08Brian Atlascountry response respon quick response 10 5 second response not okay big SAS energy donated $20 Che for how big are those
07:08:23Brian AtlasHawks like cup size I think he's asking or yeah like G's or something I don't know
07:08:32Isabella/TTSjust guess in your head all right that was helpful we got Jim here GMD Jim donated $20 I love how modern women use current
07:08:44Isabella/TTStimes as an excuse to be degenerate in their minds Progressive equals freedom to be degenerate being virtuous is
07:08:52Isabella/TTStimeless don't be a SLO at any time 304 Slayer donated $20 to the old lady with the glasses when your daughter
07:09:03Isabella/TTSgets her peas will you still want her to kiss you on the cheek at every holiday I'll never have a daughter so that's fine Brian's mom donated $30
07:09:14Isabella/TTSdarling I don't mind you borrowing my butt plug but can't you please rinse it off before you put it back I didn't have time to rinse it but I used it anyway
07:09:24Isabella/TTSmommies loves you the [ __ ] Captain Awesome donated $20 so like the you ring wouldn't it be pretty disingenuous for him to give you
07:09:34Isabella/TTSa hand me- down ring thank you just like a woman who offers her beaten in holes ran through like train
07:09:42Isabella/TTStunnels as vet donated $20 so one in 10 men but you're going to Mexico with a hooker without your husband with hundreds of strange men with one thought
07:09:54Isabella/TTSon their mind your man is a [ __ ] say it to his face kitten bear donated $20 Cena I'm not going to Mexico that's it hi oh you have to do the uh
07:10:08Isabella/TTSAO the AO yeah for for kiding go why cuz he said your talk 76 donated $20 does the sex positive woman in black have any social
07:10:20Isabella/TTSmedias I do [ __ ] um Hy High Life GMD gim donated $20 a wound between
07:10:32Isabella/TTSyour legs that you have to force daily not to heal does not make you a woman and a strap on sewn to your body does not make you a
07:10:41Isabella/TTSman uh Jim thank you very much man Brandon 53323 donated $20 brixon your merch shop sucks I ordered a premium hoodie that was supposed to arrive on
07:10:53Brian Atlasthe 14th and now they are saying sometime before Christmas tell them to get it together Long hey yeah sor hear that man uh we use this uh third party called Spring I've had a couple people
07:11:05Brian Atlassend me DMS saying that the orders have been delayed uh if you can uh did it arrive on the it hasn't arrived send a follow-up to the customer service over at Spring if you don't hear back from
07:11:18Brian Atlasthem within I mean it's holidays right now if you don't hear from back from them from uh next week reach out to me I'll escalate it I'm thinking about they've been having a couple issues over
07:11:29Brian Atlasthere I don't know if they're like about to go out business or something but um we'll either get you a refund or we'll get you the merch uh there have been some delays with the merchandise it's we
07:11:40Brian Atlashave the third party doing all of it I do apologize for that I'm going to look into perhaps switching to a different uh vendor who can they you know they print
07:11:51Brian Atlashouse ship handle everything um I'll know what's going on with spring so I do apologize for that though we are uh like I said we'll get it to you or we'll get
07:12:01Brian Atlasa refund sorry about that man I want a hoodie uh you have to cost an a heal oh uh while we're waiting and I'm trying to get
07:12:11Isabella/TTSsorry oh hold on kitten bear donated $20 WTF happened to my TTS it only said the first
07:12:22Brian Atlasword yeah I don't know you maybe you didn't finish send another writing the whole thing in maybe that you deleted it
07:12:31Brian Atlasuh makeup removal makeup removal removal my deals indeed okay who's y all going to do it Cena you going to do it why
07:12:40Katie Valentinelooking at me Cena you going to do it okay boom boom all I have to say is that one is not I need oh sorry sorry didn't mean to throw it that far my bad I can
07:12:53Brian Atlasgo directly home to are you wearing makeup no can I too sure thank you girls I need a lot of makeup okay you want one
07:13:03Katie Valentineor you know I need two too probably I gave you two yeah you you just trying to hustle me for extra no you only gave me two trying to hustle me I was going to
07:13:13Isabella/TTSbring my own hly taking makeup off taking the makeup off because I don't think this going to take can I have a mirror n what Youk
07:13:24Isabella/TTSdonated $2 the woman with the blue white shirt has a nice rack smile oh yeah check it out on Instagram Katie Nicole
07:13:36Isabella/TTSValentine thank you as donated $20 no problem I'll say it to his face open your legs winking
07:13:46Isabella/TTSface uh vet thank you man appreciate it thank you for the TTS I need a hold up bro double agent donated $2 Happy Thanksgiving to everyone at
07:13:58Isabella/TTSwhatever who make it all possible twice a week cheers to you all with good health wealth Good Fortune mass deportations as we prepare to make America great again hell
07:14:10Isabella/TTS[Laughter] yeah I'll let the others come through one sec guys Daniel noser donated $20 congratulations all you illegal
07:14:22Isabella/TTSimmigrants on the panel now you all accept conservative values as well as that a man is a man and that gender is the same exact thing as sex to keep your
07:14:32Isabella/TTSgreen card wait what was that one kitten bear donated $20 retry CA I can fix you chair six please don't ever procreate
07:14:42Isabella/TTSand pass your weird sexual views onto Offspring it's always the mental health Advocates that have the most bizarre takes on
07:14:51Background/Crew 2sex Vector donated $20 my spring goes like
07:14:59Background/Crew 2this nobody cares about
07:15:04Background/Crew 3nice hey what is it when they do that what is that even sprinkl I know but like why my point is why um I have some good news and I have some bad news the good news is I saved a
07:15:17Brian Atlasbunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico uh the bad news is that some of the ttss fell off so I will read them which is better which is a
07:15:28Brian Atlasbetter deal how about that suckers not you know what I I don't know [ __ ] it guys I'm tripping on caffeine okay uh
07:15:37Brian Atlashold on let me see if I can one more time donated $20 my sprinkler goes like this not letting me sorry guys
07:15:54Brian Atlascolor who's going to do a rep uh so I do need to sit uh I'm going to read the TTS is streamlabs is so annoying I
07:16:07Brian Atlasapologize I thought I would be able to pull it up on my iPad I I checked my phone I checked three devices it's not letting me do it I'm just going to have to read it it won't even let me show the
07:16:18Brian Atlasdisplay so I do apolog I I apologize [ __ ] streamlabs needs to I've been messaging them forever to not let these fall off and you should be able to pull up every single TTS
07:16:31Brian Atlasevery single TTS that has come through I don't know why they do this but um Clark wiser sent in $206 69 cents chair 6's husband better change the locks when she
07:16:43Brian Atlasgoes to Mexico if she can forget her bodies she will forget she's married do you have a response to clerk Wier I won't forget I'm married can you
07:16:53Brian Atlasguys hold up the to the camera the the damage mine's worse than ever can you guys hold up the Carnage that you guys
07:17:01Brian Atlashave done on my precious makeup wipes God damn bro what the [ __ ] y' CRA that's crazy man [ __ ] oh Cena went get get it
07:17:13Brian Atlasall off take the Lash hey lashes off too oh whoa yeah I'm used to you with like the crazy eyeliner man that's okay vector vector I do apologize [ __ ] streamlabs uh just kidding streamlabs
07:17:26Brian Atlasbut come on man got to fix this [ __ ] man part Scandinavian here this is you whoa yeah sorry I was looking I've been looking down the whole time so I didn't
07:17:37Katie Valentineeven get the transition it's just like makeup no makeup you look y like a so young with that it's like different and manly erroneous no you do not erroneous
07:17:48Brian AtlasI feel like it just um okay for Emily this is from Vector yeah part Scandinavian here Emily quite a role reversal in the past Vikings pillaged
07:17:59Brian AtlasVillages for free you are pillaging men for a fee all the Viking men became simps [Laughter]
07:18:12Brian AtlasLOL oh God thank you Vector Michigan Christian says Brian you finally found a woman worth dating women pay attention to based shorty also conscription or not
07:18:24Brian Atlaswomen suck at decisions and voting who supports oh my who supports not my this is the oh my God I wish the T oh my Vector bro you're making me read
07:18:35Brian Atlasthis [ __ ] bro this is Vector says ve Vector says no sorry Michigan Christian says uh who supports repealing the 19th question mark
07:18:45Brian AtlasMaga uh thank you Michigan Christian Vector tell me if these came through previously because we might be getting caught up Vector Isabella how dare
07:18:55Brian Atlasyou you've gone and pissed off the local Zoo all of the zookeepers are running a mug trying to figure out why their favorite bull is missing its nose ring I have my nose ring yeah that's you stole
07:19:09Brian Atlasfrom [Music] the okay uh Josh says change the be question to this in 10 seconds all of a
07:19:19Brian Atlassudden the whatever studio is empty except for the woman and either a man or a bear door is welded shut no one can open it for 10 hours choose that was the
07:19:29Katie Valentinefirst one yeah that was red oh did we yeah did you guys respond no no it's man we all said to the bathroom
07:19:39Brian AtlasI can't see I'm choosing the man every time did I do it man you want to take your I can't oh they're like they're glued on or
07:19:49Brian Atlaswhatever um they're not like yeah but so guys for the scenario do you pick the bear for like being in the studio don't read don't I I'll read it later don't
07:20:01Brian Atlasworry hello going around did you pick the bear man man man for that scenario in here I'll pick the man I think they didn't you guys most of you picked man anyway anyway everyone I was the only
07:20:12Brian Atlasbear uh toast tell me if this one came through I feel like the equivalent to the body count first date question would be asking what a man does for a job on first date cuz women want to be provided
07:20:25Brian Atlasfor and men want to know their date is not a 304 304 I messed up the rhyme thank you to sorry that it didn't come in as the TTS streamlabs [ __ ] it up and then I'm
07:20:36Brian Atlaspretty sure okay we're all caught up we're all C up caught caught up LOL paladins donated $20 I changed my
07:20:47Isabella/TTSmind we'll keep number five here in the United States Mexico can have number six and then we build the wall 10 ft higher L paladins thank you for the uh
07:21:01Jasminethank you appreciate it I don't give a [ __ ] s 76 donated $20 chair five looks stunning without
07:21:12Isabella/TTSmakeup you wer wearing she never was wearing makeup I don't think she was wearing any makeup so uh so thank you for the TTS
07:21:20Isabella/TTSman big SAS energy donated $20 oh damn chair 3 you're cute you should probably drop the degenerate face paint very