DEMON Satanic E-GIRL w/ 300+ Body Count (4 In 1 Day)?! Did WHAT In A GRAVEYARD?! | Dating Talk #216

Date: 2024-11-27
Duration: 7h 50m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Cena(guest)
SPEAKER_03Emily (Inula)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Isabella(guest)
SPEAKER_06Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_07Isabella/TTS(guest)
SPEAKER_10Kyla(guest)
SPEAKER_12Katie Valentine(guest)
SPEAKER_13Amanda(guest)
SPEAKER_14Jasmine(guest)

Key Moments

00:04:43
IntroEmily (Inula) introduces herself as 23yo Danish/Hungarian OnlyFans creator; reveals satanic tattoo

I'm Inula but you can call me Emily, I'm 23 and I'm partly living in Hungary and Denmark

00:06:30
IntroCena introduces herself - 18yo Canadian, OnlyFans + engineering student (returning guest)

hi my name is Cena I'm 18 my occupation is OF and I live in Canada

00:13:14
RelationshipKatie Valentine reveals on-again off-again complicated relationship (~5-6 years, 4 years cohabiting); previously had 7.5 year relationship

currently I'm kind of in an on again off again relationship... we were together for four years and we lived together and then we had a breakup

00:14:52
IntroJasmine introduces herself - 27yo pharmacy tech from LA, engaged 4 years

my name is Jasmine I am 27 years old from LA I work part-time managing a smoke shop

00:15:51
RelationshipJasmine reveals she is currently engaged, 4-year relationship, her longest

at the moment I am currently engaged uh we have been together for going on 4 years

00:23:27
Key MomentEmily reveals her boyfriend drove her to hook up with another man and waited outside while she had sex - then kissed her when she returned

he would drive you to one guy but you went to that guy multiple times... when you got back in the car would he go in for a kiss immediately... he went in for the kiss yeah

00:28:10
QuoteBrian PSA: Men should never date a woman who is sexually involved with another man - it's a baseline standard

this should be your Baseline standard even if you struggle to get women it should be the you do not sink this low ever ever your Baseline should be if a woman is sexually involved with another man that is 100% a deal breaker

00:35:38
ControversyAndrew challenges Emily: if she believes in equal rights she is a feminist by definition; lists her liberal positions vs claimed conservatism

so to get this right: pro women's Choice pro LGBTQ pro women's Liberation where's is there a single conservative principal hidden anywhere

00:36:14
ControversyAndrew systematically lists Emily's "conservative" contradictions: masturbated on grave, got abortion (preventing boyfriend from being a father), pro-women's liberation, pro-LGBTQ

so far what we have is that you masturbated on a dude's grave and this was after you were with a guy and you went and had an abortion thus making it so that he would never be a father

00:43:08
IntroRiley arrives late and introduces herself - 27yo web3 developer, Vegas, just out of a relationship

my name is Riley I'm 27 years old I'm a web 3 developer and I live in Vegas

00:44:55
ControversyEmily reveals she masturbated on a dead man's grave for $200 custom OF request; police were called but did nothing

a guy asked you to do a solo tape on his father's tombstone... I visited the grave paid my respect and then... well I visited the grave

01:08:46
QuoteSelf-ratings round - Cena rates herself 5 (was 8 on Sunday), Brian asks why she lost 3 points in 48 hours

why did you lose three points in 48 hours... you were here on Sunday... now you're mid a five

03:16:00
Key MomentBrian: if girlfriend wants to go to bachelorette party in Mexico, relationship is over - different values

she's just not going... you can go the relationship is over it was nice to meet you we have different values

04:01:11
Key MomentJasmine reveals she was undocumented since age 3 and was involved with a pimp (served as bottom bitch/assistant)

I'm not legally from here so my process... I was a ghost in the system at the time... I would just help him around with whatever girls he was working with

04:01:43
Key MomentJasmine reveals she was married at 22 and divorced, then almost pimped out by a sugar daddy who used her undocumented status

he was like a literal pimp yes... wanted to make me one of his... I would just help him around with whatever girls he was working with... it was it was basically you could call it that

04:50:28
QuoteAndrew: Brian can't get a plastic straw in CA due to stigma against plastic, but can freely access all OF content online

Brian lives in a state currently where he can't get a plastic drinking straw because of the stigma against plastic... but right now he can go on that laptop and pull up all of your naked pictures

05:26:41
Key MomentEmily reveals body count of 302 - 100+ this year alone due to OF customs; had 68 partners before age 20

body count 302... this year's the year I've been with the most people is it because of OF... 200 plus this year

06:50:28
QuoteAndrew formally challenges Michael Knowles to a 1v1 debate on the Whatever Podcast about the manosphere

I'd like to challenge Michael Knowles to a debate on the whatever podcast uh just 1 V one he's been on before so have I we know Brian Atlas will be a fair moderator

06:55:00
TopicAndrew Wilson wraps up and leaves the show after ~7 hours

Andrew thank you for coming... thank you for joining us

07:00:05
Key MomentIsabella walks through the logic that a man dating a trans woman is homosexual (Brian leads her through it until she concedes)

a transgender woman is male... through sex yeah... so trans a transgender woman is male you agree with this... man dating a transgender woman is homosexual

07:12:00
Key MomentMakeup removal challenge - all female guests wipe off makeup; chat reacts to who looks better without makeup

okay who's going to do it Cena you going to do it... boom boom... I need a lot of makeup

07:32:25
Key MomentCena eats entire Snickers bar in one bite as a challenge

okay guys this is she... you have to one bite... yeah I made it

Topics Discussed

00:00:13
Show Intro & Guest Introductions

Brian opens the show, explains delayed start due to rain. Guests introduce themselves in order: Emily (Danish OF creator, 23), Cena (18, Canadian, returning guest), Isabella (18, UCSB), Katie Valentine (34, Las Vegas, paralegal/escort), Amanda (34, Sacramento, veterans mental health), Kyla (27, Arizona, modeling). Jasmine arrives later and introduces herself. Riley arrives even later.

00:23:27
Emily's Open Relationship & Graveyard Story

Brian reads Emily's pre-show notes. Discussion of her open relationship at 16-18 where boyfriend drove her to hookups. The boyfriend was a cuck who kissed her when she returned. Brian gives PSA about men not accepting this. Emily also reveals she masturbated on a dead man's grave for a $200 OF custom during Halloween - the requester's father's grave. Police were called after her TikTok but did nothing. Andrew notes Danish law on grave desecration.

00:35:30
Emily's Abortion & Conservative vs Liberal Contradictions

Andrew challenges Emily's claim to be conservative while holding pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ, pansexual, sex-work-positive views. Emily had an abortion on her birthday (boyfriend had testicular cancer and wanted to keep baby; she went back to him after). Andrew catalogues her contradictions.

00:58:38
Riley Arrives Late - Age Gap Relationship Discussion

Riley introduces herself as a web3 developer who just arrived. She was in a 30-year age gap relationship with a 57yo man she met while serving at a casino. They waited 3 months to have sex (long distance). Discussion of age gap dynamics.

01:08:40
Self-Ratings Round (1-10 looks)

Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10. Cena rates herself 5 (was 8 on Sunday - says makeup is off today). Emily: 5. Isabella: 5. Katie: 7-7.5 without everything, 8-8.5 with; said she was 9-10 at peak (28-29). Jasmine: 5.5. Amanda: 7. Kyla: 7. Andrew: 4. Brian: 4. Discussion of when women peak physically.

01:12:00
Do Women Peak in their 20s? Aging & Looks Discussion

Extended debate on whether women peak physically in their 20s. Brian argues women will not be better looking at 40 vs 25 all else equal. Amanda and Jasmine claim they'll be better looking later. Andrew argues cosmetic enhancements are designed to maintain youthful appearance. Discussion of confidence vs actual physical beauty, BBL, breast implants, push-up bras. Most women cope about aging.

02:13:26
Makeup: Deceptive or Enhancing?

Katie disagrees makeup is always deceptive - thinks it can just enhance natural features. Brian argues makeup is deceptive because attraction happens before conscious assessment. 50/50 split on panel. Discussion of fake lashes, contouring vs natural. At end of show they do makeup removal challenge.

02:24:00
Sex Work, Dating & Traditional Roles

Brian's position: women in sex work don't deserve traditional gentleman treatment (paying for dates, being providers). Not saying they can't find men who do it, just that they don't deserve it. Panel debates: women claim they still want traditional treatment despite non-traditional work. Andrew argues sex work/porn rewires men's brains, causes harm similar to addiction. Emily argues men buy it so it can't be wrong. Andrew uses body disposal analogy.

02:58:00
Penis Size Discussion

Does size matter? Yes/no split. Jasmine says average girth is fine (5.5" or even 4" if average girth). Katie admits she'd still have sex even if size was disappointing but no second date. Amanda wants girth proportionate to length (minimum 6in). Measurement tape comes out. Discussion of "pity sex."

03:07:22
Women Caring About Looks More Than Men

Brian argues women care more about looks than men based on specific things: height (out of control), hair (balding), and penis size (physical not visual). Kyla gives compelling argument: women swipe on only 10% of men on dating apps while men swipe on nearly everyone. Discussion of whether men are superficial vs strategic swipers.

03:15:00
Going Out to Bars/Clubs in Relationships

Extended debate on whether women in relationships should go out to bars/clubs. Brian: women going out is a bigger liability than men because women will be approached/pursued. Amanda: husband doesn't want her traveling internationally without him - discusses compromise. Katie: trusts partner but brings up bachelorette party example (Mexico). Andrew makes emotional appeal about irrational fears. Brian: would end relationship if girlfriend went to bachelorette party. Discussion of symmetry in relationship rules.

04:28:59
Delusional Dating Calculator

Brian runs the Slate Delusional Dating Calculator for Katie (200k income, 6ft+, no obese, any race, 28-50): 0.96%. With married included ~similar. Riley (150k, 5'5"+, 27-57, no obese): 1%. Cena (no income req, 4'11"+ height, 18-30, no obese excluded): 0.062%. Andrew explains how dropping a few standards would skyrocket the percentages.

04:51:52
Marriage: Bad Deal for Men?

Brian argues marriage is a bad deal for men. Guests try to make case for marriage: tradition, loyalty, security, protection. Brian rebuts each point - can get all benefits without marriage contract. Discusses divorce statistics skewed toward women. Prenups can't fully protect. Andrew notes Danish divorce stats same as US. Brian's hypothetical about hand amputation to get married (Christian ethics debate with Andrew). Riley says sign prenup and give her security. Katie: agrees marriage is bad financially for both.

05:25:53
Body Count Round

Body counts revealed around the table. Emily: 302 (shocking, 100+ this year alone due to OF customs; 68 by age 20; 4 in one day max; had 6-some once). Cena: 3. Isabella: 2. Katie: refused to share (over/under 1000 professionally also refused). Amanda: forgot/unknown (been with husband 12 years). Kyla: 7. Jasmine: declined (said it's between her and her fiancé). Riley: declined.

05:34:20
Aging Photos (AI Age Progression)

Damian pulls up AI age progression photos of all the women. Mixed reactions - some look the same, some age well in the AI, some get "armpit fat" added. Kyla sees herself looking like her mom. Brief but fun segment.

06:15:47
Feminism: Equality or Women's Advocacy?

Brian argues first-wave feminism wasn't about equality because women got the vote without military conscription. Andrew notes most women voted against suffrage originally. Brian: feminism fights for women's benefits only, never takes away privileges. Riley and Isabella disagreed on questionnaire (thought it was about equality). Brian walks through logic showing even first-wave feminism was selective.

06:26:06
Women Oppressed? Slut-Shaming Debate

Amanda says women are oppressed (slut-shaming double standard). Andrew and Brian challenge: how is a preference (not wanting to date high-body-count women) oppressive? Brian: social shaming is the only tool to reduce hookup culture. Amanda: hookup culture can have positive aspects (sexual self-knowledge). Andrew: society has campaigns against smoking/drinking but none against porn/OF.

06:52:03
Andrew Wilson Departure & Michael Knowles Challenge

Andrew says goodbye and issues formal challenge to Michael Knowles (conservative commentator) to debate on Whatever Podcast. Clarifies the Nala clip controversy - some other account (not Whatever) added misleading headline. Andrew notes the episode had the most selectively edited clips of any Whatever episode.

06:59:18
Is Dating a Man Transgender Gay? Logic Exercise

Isabella disagreed on questionnaire that "it's not straight for a man to date a trans woman." Brian walks her through: can't change sex, only gender. Trans woman is biologically male. Homosexual = same-sex. Therefore man + trans woman = homosexual. Isabella eventually concedes. Discussion of post-op trans scenarios.

07:07:20
Roast Session / TTS Reading

$20 TTS roast session. Highlights: LOL paladins multiple donations roasting various guests. Danny Simmon rates panel "solid four." Roasts of Emily (Viking pillaging for a fee), Jasmine (pimp story). Brian reads Brian's mom TTS. Cena eats a Snickers bar in one bite. Makeup removal challenge - guests wipe makeup off to reveal natural faces. Comments on who looks better without makeup.

07:39:40
Show Outro & Twitch Raid

Brian wraps up. Jasmine thanks Brian for having her. Brian tries to raid streamer "Mitch" who was going for world first hardcore run in WoW Classic but got disconnected. Brian sends kind message. Final TTS messages read. Brian eats burrito on stream after champagne pop donation. Outro with raid to Mitch.

Transcript

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04:35:00
Andrew Wilsondrop the income down to 50,000 and um you know they can be around 5'4 like your height was fine right minimum height for 411 but if you
04:35:10
Andrew Wilsonjust drop that down like 50,000 or 60,000 a year the percentage would Skyrocket Skyrocket or if you just unchecked OB Beast the percentage would
04:35:20
Andrew Wilsonabsolutely Skyrocket it's like uh because the standards become rigid so rigid well and think about this too when you say obese there are men who are considered obese who aren't actually fat
04:35:32
Andrew Wilsonright they're just super strong or really big uh they have a like a bad um I don't BMI you know what I mean so with within that confines of that
04:35:44
Andrew Wilsonrigidity you could just drop a couple things and it would just Skyrocket the chances of finding the type of dude that you wanted fism just pointing that out F
04:35:55
Brian Atlasshow um before I get into other questionnaire stuff uh are there any other dating topics perhaps first any disagreements that any of you have with anything maybe
04:36:06
Brian Atlasyou've seen the podcast before something that hasn't already come up and uh any disag ments from anybody if not any dating topics any of you would like to I
04:36:16
Emily (Inula)want on or ask for advice I wanted to go back to the the chat that came up which one the one who's like what if a family
04:36:26
Emily (Inula)relative subscribed or chat or something he also asked do you think what you're doing is wrong and we didn't get to answer that and I don't think it's wrong what
04:36:38
Emily (Inula)we're doing because m okay because if men didn't buy it then we were out of a job you know Andrew do
04:36:48
Andrew Wilsonyou want to um I want to not linger on it too long but Andrew do you want to have a little quick back and forth on this one so even if it were true that the reason that the industry exists is
04:37:00
Emily (Inula)because men buy it why would that negate your responsibility I'm justware the money is at you know if I can live off of this
04:37:10
Andrew Wilsonbecause men decides to buy it then why wouldn't I so let's assume for a second that there are people who uh they enjoy doing murder but they don't enjoy doing
04:37:22
Andrew Wilsonthe body disposal so they murder the people and you come in and you dump the bodies for them that's where the money's at are you doing anything wrong but that is illegal o if is not illegal yeah but let's say let's say it wasn't illegal
04:37:35
Andrew Wilsonwould you be doing anything wrong no well it it is illegal because if you wouldn't be doing anything wrong well you didn't do the murder right so but you're contributing
04:37:45
Cenato the industry that's murdering right you're contributing but you're not doing anything wrong you're just helping right right so you just so they're they're just doing the murder all you're
04:37:58
Andrew Wilsondoing is burying the bodies right you you don't have any responsibility yeah but yeah basically you're just going where the money's at uhhuh mhm so from your view um the the idea
04:38:10
Andrew Wilsonhere is that it doesn't really matter how much damage you do because if these men demand that you're doing the damage to them you're not doing anything wrong is that
04:38:20
Andrew Wilsoncorrect yeah yeah so let me ask you this if your dad let's say was slightly mentally ill your father and he ended up with a woman who treated him like garbage every day and made him do
04:38:32
Andrew Wilsonhorrible things and he did it right he did it because he was you know slightly let's say mentally ill in this case um but it was his choice would you support choice to do that or would you tell him
04:38:43
Cenathat he should leave I support his choice but also I tell him you support his choice no no no no no you wouldn't no because is there really anything you could say really
04:38:55
CenaYou' support his choice okay I want to support his choice but also there's nothing that you could say to him if he was so certain about it right why
04:39:07
Andrew Wilsonnot like I could say to him people change their minds about things are certain of all the time but if if he's like firm on it yeah people change their minds on things they firm on all the
04:39:19
Andrew Wilsontime that's what argumentation is for right to assist people and change their mind from things that they've made up their mind about people make up their mind about things all the time and they're completely wrong in fact I would
04:39:30
Andrew Wilsonsay 99% of things people think they know they're wrong about those things 99% of people's worldviews totally wrong right and the facts they think they know completely wrong so people people kind
04:39:43
Andrew Wilsonof necessarily have to change their minds all the time right because they're just it's just demonstrated how wrong we are all day long all all the time in all sorts of different things we do so why
04:39:53
Emily (Inula)not try to talk them out of it but how many guys watch like our industry it's basically it's a lot yeah yeah so the
04:40:05
Andrew Wilsonthing is though is that even if that's the case if you could demonstrate that you were doing a lot of damage to these guys that they were forming addictive behaviors highly addictive behaviors
04:40:15
Andrew Wilsonaround the things it is that you are doing wouldn't you then have some agency and some responsibility to stop doing that but then we should cut off all
04:40:25
Andrew Wilsontobacco and alcohol you know why because that's addictive to people some people can't handle it so there's a there's a threshold for damage breathing oxygen
04:40:37
Andrew Wilsonright can can damage you uh you can play guitar too much and become addicted to it there's almost anything on planet Earth you can become addicted to but we we kind of create these thresholds on what type of damage is acceptable within
04:40:49
Andrew Wilsonsociety and I would think that if you're just completely rewiring somebody's brain from the ground up doing this much damage to yourself and society that we
04:40:59
Emily (Inula)can create a threshold there so so corn is more damaging than alcohol when people drink they become violent they
04:41:09
Andrew Wilsonbecome like not the himself isn't that more damaging than yeah but but here's the thing most people drink pretty responsibly right when you're talking
04:41:20
Andrew Wilsonabout corn for instance right the amount of damage that it does rewiring a person's brain uh significantly more damaging than a person has a couple of
04:41:30
Andrew Wilsondrinks a week significant more damage significantly more damage and how yeah how and what is theage because what happens is we we create these thresholds
04:41:41
Andrew Wilsonfor people so if a person's watching pornography all day let's say or not even all day they just watch it a lot what happens is they begin a step up process we have research and studies
04:41:53
Andrew Wilsonwhich shows this over and over and over right not only does it lead to human trafficking which is I I think you would agree with me is pretty [ __ ] horrible right especially underage human trafficking leads to that in almost every place where porns legalized human
04:42:06
Andrew Wilsontrafficking is through the roof in comparison to places where it's not but also what it does is it stops a person from being able to orgasm unless they continuously up the dosage the dopamine
04:42:18
Andrew Wilsondosage to the brain and so you've probably seen this with your own clients right at first they may ask you to do something that's relatively modest or moderate and then they kind of Step that up over time right they're willing to
04:42:31
Emily (Inula)pay a little bit more so that you do kind of more and more and more intense sexual things is that the case or not the case with many of your clients most of them just like their account or never
04:42:42
Andrew Wilsonchat again it's like a yeah I'm not talking about most I'm asking you have clients who do this right they just gradually step it up right yeah like 2% yeah right so they gradually step it
04:42:53
Andrew Wilsonup but it's the same with alcohol okay hang on can let me make the argument and then you can respond to the argument okay can we do that let me just make it and then you can respond so anyway
04:43:04
Andrew Wilsonthey'll gradually step it up over time they gradually step it up over time and what this does is it actually is highly damaging not only to their brain but it's damaging to the person who's doing it so now you have an entire sea of
04:43:17
Andrew Wilsonyoung women who dedicate the life to only fans and men don't want to marry him men don't want they don't want to get married to him because uh because of their sexual history and the fact that
04:43:28
Andrew Wilsontheir kids can go and you know see the vagina online and things like this then we open up the can of worms as to what happens even to the ones who do whose children get mercilessly bullied in school because Mommy did cornography and
04:43:41
Andrew Wilsonher nudes are all over the place all over the Internet and then they come home and they're like hey G Mom look this is a picture of you sucking this guy's dick what's going on here it's a pretty disturbing phenomenon culturally
04:43:54
Andrew Wilsonso it has all sorts of cultural impacts and phenomenon which go well and above and beyond what an individual uh experiences usually when it comes to societal destruction right
04:44:06
Andrew Wilsonso what the individual an individual drunk does I agree with you it's bad but we have all sorts of things to assist drunks right we try to make sure people hang on we try to make sure people don't become drunks we try to make sure we do
04:44:18
Andrew Wilsoneverything we can to make Statewide propaganda about why it is that you shouldn't drink and drive why it is that you shouldn't be getting drunk too much where everywhere you look there's
04:44:28
Andrew Wilsonanti-drinking everywhere you look it's anti-smoking everywhere you look the society is not promoting that but there's no such programs against only
04:44:38
Andrew Wilsonfans or sex work at all it's it's it's in fact the opposite right new didy is exploded inside of the private market so I'd say these are massive distinctions between these two industries go ahead
04:44:50
Cenawait are you saying like are you gearing this towards o is wrong or are you saying like the whole sex work industry is wrong yeah
04:45:00
Andrew WilsonI'm saying that we had a pre-or uh pre corn sorry pre-or cornography society and that Society was better than the one we're in right now and the reason it was is because the degradation to the
04:45:12
Andrew Wilsonoverall demoralization I'm sorry the demoralization has led to the overall degradation that's the right way to say that the demoralization has led to the overall degradation of society and so uh
04:45:24
Emily (Inula)and this has happened over the span of multitudes of years alcohol has been with us for 2,000 years uh this idea of cornography is a recent phenomenon yeah but like it I live
04:45:36
Emily (Inula)partly in Budapest in Hungary and that's like the capital of of corn the corn industry like yeah do you do you think Budapest and and Hungary are phenomenal
04:45:47
Emily (Inula)places or what especially Hungary yeah I love it but what's great about Hungary low taxes uh no immigrants or refugees like yeah so they so they have so they
04:45:59
Andrew Wilsonhave some cirks but let me ask you this if Hungary didn't have cornography what would what would be bad about that how would that make hungry a worse place it wouldn't make it
04:46:11
Andrew Wilsonbest yeah right it would it wouldn't make it probably make it a better place I don't think so but I'm just say
04:46:19
Emily (Inula)that I live place where corn is like normal so I think here in the US you look down
04:46:30
Andrew Wilsonupon it but like in Europe it's kind of yeah no they look down on it in Europe too they look down on it in England they look down on it in France they look down on it in most of Western Europe you're
04:46:41
Andrew Wilsontalking about some Eastern block [ __ ] holes and even in those even in eastern block countries they still look down on the [ __ ] so I I don't know what you're talking about they definitely look down on it yes they do name the country where
04:46:53
Andrew Wilsonthey don't look down on it Czech Republic and Hungary Eastern so some Eastern block countries yeah also in Denmark yeah but all of Western Europe yes Western Europe
04:47:04
Andrew Wilsonlooks down on it for sure and America looks down on it Australia looks down on it uh Canada looks down on it most of Mexico even looks down on it they don't
04:47:13
Andrew Wilsonlike the idea of uh of sex workers or corn workers it's not not them watch out one sec hold on I'll let this go Vector donated $100 thank you Vector family is
04:47:25
Isabella/TTSyour flesh and blood you and them feel an intrinsic need to respect each other the thought of them seeing you naked is disrespectful to you you feel no need to respect strangers
04:47:39
Brian Atlasright yeah but uh but sorry no response or do you want to respond to vector
04:47:49
Brian Atlasor vector thank you for the uh message I do appreciate it um I'll let you guys get back to it then sorry Vector she doesn't have no no no I just need to
04:47:58
Emily (Inula)like I didn't quite understand it wait I'm was it for you I think for all only fans girls mhm
04:48:10
Cenahold on wait I'm just trying to understand porn wasn't porn like a really big thing before the 2000s in the 80s yeah yeah so but you're
04:48:22
Andrew Wilsonsaying cuz porn is free no yeah so well remember when did they when do you think the internet came around for all that free porn when do
04:48:33
Brian Atlasyou think that came around I in red light I do need you each to make your final points 30 seconds okay so my point is this is like just very quickly and then you can
04:48:45
Andrew Wilsonrespond right just to summarize it's not that alcohol and drunkenness and things like that are good they're not good right and generally for for society it's not good to have a bunch of drunks going around uh same thing with cigarett
04:48:56
Andrew Wilsonsmoking same thing with fried foods right too much of any of this is pretty much bad for you however we seem to have some type of social containment for these activities and Society at large
04:49:08
Andrew Wilsondefinitely snubs or NOS at drunks right right you can't hardly find a place anywhere to smoke a cigarette right Society has done everything that it can possibly do to run campaign after campaign against these activities because they consider them to be
04:49:20
Andrew Wilsondegrading to society not good for society in any way shape or form in this particular case I do not see that ever happening or well not ever but I don't see it happening currently in Western Nations when it comes to Corn so uh it's
04:49:32
Andrew Wilsonit's uh that's the distinction in the phenomenon we have red light district in the Netherlands that's a whole street let me help his room and fap you on his internet what do you mean like you don't
04:49:44
Brian Atlasneed to go to the red light district so are you is your argument essentially it's legalized therefore CU we acknowledge that in
04:49:55
Emily (Inula)these countries certainly these European countries it's legalized and no more normalized than here I people don't look
04:50:05
Brian Atlasup down upon it as much as you do here in the UN let me ask you a question would you rather date a guy who never had to pay for [ __ ] or would you prefer to date a guy who has to uh who sees two
04:50:17
Emily (Inula)different prostitutes a week which guy would you prefer to date the one who didn't pay for it of course because he's a high value man
04:50:27
Andrew Wilsonbecause he can so which means you're Deval yeah I'm not saying I'm valuable at all that means you're devaluing you think do that are less
04:50:38
Andrew Wilsonvaluable I don't call myself a high value woman not at all no no no okay you know how absurd it is that Brian lives in a state currently where he can't get a plastic drinking straw because of the
04:50:50
Andrew Wilsonstigma against PL he can't go down to the Burger Joint down the street and get a [ __ ] plastic drinking straw because of this stigma against plastic right but right now he can go on that laptop and
04:51:02
Andrew Wilsonpull up all of your naked pictures that's [ __ ] wild okay that's [ __ ] wild it's insane that is not the world
04:51:10
Brian Atlasthat anybody wants to live in okay W California [ __ ] or L California L California [ __ ] Kami fornia California stand [ __ ] can't even get
04:51:21
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04:51:44
Brian Atlasappreciate it guys okay we're going to get into the questionnaire so let's see uh marriage is a bad deal for men to
04:51:52
Brian Atlaswhich you disagreed Katie disagreed and Riley disagreed Kyla disagreed so my position is that uh when
04:52:04
Brian Atlasit comes to marriage uh how about instead of me giving my P case for why marriage is bad and I have plenty of reasons um for those of you
04:52:16
Brian Atlaswho said you disagree that Mar marriage is a bad deal for men I'd like to hear from you guys and maybe you just tell me why men should get married in today's
04:52:24
Emily (Inula)day and age I seen all the you know what's it called those speech um that all the guys see like Andrew Tate all of
04:52:34
Emily (Inula)those like get yourself a woman get married uh and she this is something Andrew Tate says no no no not
04:52:43
Emily (Inula)specifically but okay what what do they argue then but all these like clever male figures who speak Jordan Peterson also he says get yourself a woman who
04:52:55
Brian Atlascan support you so you don't Cloud your vision with other like girls so why do I why can't you have a monogamous relationship that does not include
04:53:06
Emily (Inula)marriage it can yeah okay so I can but if you love someone why not get married if she loves me why get married
04:53:16
Brian Atlaswhat if she loves you this your so your argument is if you love each other just get married I can just say if we love
04:53:26
Emily (Inula)each other why get married because it's a tradition to show each other that you love each
04:53:36
Brian Atlasother okay um sure isn't it it I don't disagree with
04:53:44
Brian Atlasyou that is a it's a tradition that typically people who love each other do that's not really a compelling reason because you you mentioned tradition
04:53:55
Brian Atlasright yeah like do you want to get married me yeah if I find the right guy then yeah yeah and it's a tradition right but it's like kind of goes back to our conversation about like paying for
04:54:06
Emily (Inula)dates you want to for money I think that's wrong you should yeah but you say
04:54:13
Brian Atlasit's a tradition do you think Society is in any imagination of the word traditional do you think most modern women are traditional women to some
04:54:25
Brian Atlasextent I think there are some traditions that we still value such as marriage yeah so we've gotten rid of the Traditions that uh women
04:54:35
Brian Atlastypically have to uh adhere to and we've kept we've kept the Traditions that women benefit from male chivalry male providing male protect protection and
04:54:45
Brian Atlasmarriage women benefit benefit from these kinds of this kind of conduct from men and these kinds of Arrangements Men explain to me I guess
04:54:56
Brian Atlasuh what hold on before how about okay I'll just go for it then what can I as a man get from marriage or what do I get
04:55:07
Brian Atlasout of marriage that I can't get from a long-term monogamous relationship with a woman just I don't know the laws here but in how about sure Denmark even yeah
04:55:19
Brian Atlasokay in Denmark you just split everything like you can if are are men t uh are men still Breadwinners in
04:55:28
Emily (Inula)Denmark generally speaking uh it's pretty much 5050 is it 5050 okay yeah I don't know alimon laws actually women
04:55:38
Brian Atlastend to earn more in Denmark could the case Scandinavian country um I don't know the alimon laws I don't know the laws in Denmark but um but why
04:55:49
Brian Atlaswouldn't you want to get married you need well you guys need to create a convincing case for me to get married I can give you first I'll give
04:55:58
Brian Atlasyou all the reasons but first I want you guys to tell me why I should get married or other men should get married don't
04:56:07
Andrew Wilsonyou want like a loyal woman to be locked down like just uh just very quickly um before you make that argument I'm sorry Brian I just wanted to help you out with some of your Denmark questions uh for
04:56:18
Andrew Wilsonthe divorce rate there only 29% of divorces are initiated by men in Denmark it's almost the same exact story across the board as it is here in the United
04:56:29
Andrew WilsonStates and also the courts tend to rule in the woman's favor even in Denmark so just pointing that out go ahead Cena what were you saying like don't you want
04:56:40
Cenaa loyal woman to know that she's only loyal towards you so you're saying I can't have a loyal woman absent marriage no I'm not saying you can't have a loyal
04:56:50
Cenawoman absent marriage but to be married to one another doesn't that mean like you love each other to a point where you just want each other I can just want a
04:57:02
Isabellawoman and not get married to her what about for men with high religious like values who don't believe in sex before marriage you have to be married for it to be right yeah this is really compel
04:57:11
Brian Atlasthis is actually a compelling reason uh for religious men to get married although Andrew really quick and I'll get everybody else's position on this Andrew I texted you about
04:57:22
Brian Atlasthis uh so this is sort of a hypothetical scenario so let's say there was a hypothetical country Andrew that was
04:57:31
Brian Atlassecular and in this country there was there was a significant population maybe it's a minority of Christian people and
04:57:42
Brian Atlasthis country in order for you to get married you the man had to chop off his right hand had to fully chop off his right hand in order for you to get
04:57:53
Brian Atlasmarried and you you couldn't there were no you know there wasn't just oh we just get married in the church if you get married in the church the state views you as married they're going to come and chop off your hand you do it yourself or they're going to force you to do it you
04:58:06
Brian Atlascan't leave the country for you know whatever reason so no secret marriages there could not be secret marriages and so my question is under I guess Christian doctrine theolog uh biblical
04:58:17
Brian AtlasDoctrine I'll know the exact terminology would there be some sort of under Christian ethics so like so question ask this yeah the the question is uh would
04:58:28
Brian Atlasdespite my understanding of Christianity uh it is a requirement for you to get married prior to having you can't have children out of the wedlock you can't have sexual intercourse prior to marriage but if you were a Christian
04:58:40
Brian AtlasLiving in some sort of country where you were either Pro uh not prosecuted uh persecuted persecuted or there was some
04:58:48
Brian Atlassort of Law whatever it is uh could you then have children and have
04:58:59
Andrew Wilsonsex and have a relationship yeah this isn't even hypothetical it's already happened this has already happened this is this was uh this was exactly what happened in Soviet Russia with the
04:59:10
Andrew WilsonOrthodox Christians they they absolutely wanted a state registar of marriages from Orthodox Christians so they could continue the persecution of them they refused to do that and uh so what they
04:59:22
Andrew Wilsondid was they just remained celibate because the faith the the faith in that case it's under Christian ethics when you have the compulsory to self harm um in order to do something like
04:59:34
Andrew Wilsonmarriage um you're already in an unethical situation right so at this point it's it it it's a compellence from the state so they're doing something which is evil from the view of the
04:59:45
Andrew WilsonChristian uh however we wouldn't think go do something evil we you still wouldn't fornicate outside of marriage you just simply wouldn't get married in that situation you'd be do what you
04:59:55
Andrew Wilsoncould to resist the state but so um you would not be able to have children then yeah in that specific instance you probably would not be able to have
05:00:05
Andrew Wilsonchildren no but remember remember this that in in would still get married through the church secretly the only reason I answer this way to you is that you created a hypothetical situation
05:00:18
Andrew Wilsonwhere they actually could not even get married secretly so yeah in that situation uh no you wouldn't nether Lop off your hand you would just maintain
05:00:28
Brian Atlascelibacy because I was thinking then I I mean obviously this is hypothetical in the real world at least in terms of government's overreach at the current moment
05:00:42
Brian Atlasmhm I don't think they they have the capacity to like people can do things in secret still maybe in the future that won't always be the case but I was thinking like there must be like if
05:00:52
Brian Atlasthere was some hypothetical scenario where Christians were persecuted and like there was like significant ramifications to the point of like Grievous bodily harm yeah that's
05:01:03
Andrew Wilsonhappened over and over and over and over again the only the only distinction that I can't this it's a hard question answer there may be Christian ethicists who would disagree with me on this they could say well there could be a greater
05:01:15
Andrew Wilsongoal here for you to procreate if the state's going to Lop off your hand and that's the extent of what happens to you then you may have a greater duty to procreate I'm not so sure that I would say that you do in this instance where
05:01:28
Andrew Wilsonit's uh State oppression if you have Global Christianity uh but in the case of the isolated scenario you've created the hypothetical which is almost impossible
05:01:39
Andrew Wilsonhypothetical of hey you also can't get married in secret um if that's the case uh at that point I think that that uh I I don't I don't know some I think some
05:01:52
Andrew WilsonChristian ethicist would say if you want to do that you could I would say that um I'd say that you should probably just maintain celibacy and resist the state
05:02:02
Brian Atlasright because I I mean the the thought process here would be while you could I suppose go along with this and
05:02:13
Brian Atlasum be celibate this essentially would if every Christian in this country adhered to this they would there would no longer be any Christians in this country they would all be that would be the end of
05:02:25
Andrew Wilsontheir bloodline the end of their entire family within the generation be it would be a great test of faith the but the idea here is like this has happened so many times to Christians and the persecution of the of what is called the
05:02:36
Andrew Wilsontest of faith that's where we actually get Martyrs from is from these very ideas of you're persecuted specifically for your faith your job then is to actually reaffirm your faith more the
05:02:48
Andrew WilsonPinnacle of the Christian faith is that the Gates of Hell will never will never Prevail against the church meaning you can't wipe them out you can't get rid of them so any place you're isolated where you had Christians even if you said they
05:03:00
Andrew Wilsoncouldn't procreate or you would do this to them or that to them they couldn't marry in secret all that that would do is reaffirm their faith sure we're going to come right back to it I have two chats coming through sorry for the delay on these guys big SAS energy donated
05:03:13
Isabella/TTS$100 than you big S appr she would rather date the man that didn't have to pay for sex because he's not degrading himself the mere fact that it's degrading is proof of its degeneracy on
05:03:23
Brian Atlasan individual and societal level any response there I would just agree like yeah okay sorry for the delay on these guys
05:03:34
Isabella/TTSwe were just having the exchange so I paused it big thank you super hard question Captain Awesome donated $100 the man of your dreams gives the
05:03:46
Isabella/TTSsame exact ring that he's given to 1,000s of women every woman who has been with that man recognizes that ring would you be happy with the used ring that he gave
05:03:57
Brian Atlasyou h no prefer it new yeah yeah yeah thank you Captain Awesome so much for the uh
05:04:06
Andrew WilsonTTS man I I do appreciate it um yeah that's a that's a actually uh quite a difficult scenario that I'm going to have to put some thought into um which way the ethicist would go because there
05:04:19
Andrew Wilsonthere's a compelling argument that there could be a greater good here if you got the hand loed off but there's also an argument here that staying celiv it would be absolutely fine if you didn't want your hand locked off I I actually would have to think about it taking that
05:04:33
Andrew Wilsonsecret portion out like you can't get married in secret can't be secret can't relocate that yeah that that makes the um that makes the ethical question much more difficult I don't know so so to be
05:04:44
Brian Atlascompletely blunt the more I think about it here at right now I I don't I don't know the answer and I I I wonder uh you know there may even be like it could be
05:04:54
Brian Atlasthe case that uh they think it's worth it to get the hand lobbed off but I mean that's already a very extreme example
05:05:03
Brian Atlaswhat if the example is even more extreme it's under punishment of death and so uh uh you would essentially be killed and they have some sort of to to marry you would get killed to marry yes if you
05:05:15
Andrew Wilsonmarried you would be killed yeah well I mean at that point then the ultimate punishment yeah but that that's actually a easier one to answer so if you're
05:05:25
Andrew Wilsongoing to get killed for getting married um or or whatever uh I actually don't understand why anybody at that point would get married because you would if
05:05:36
Andrew Wilsonthe question is but no more Christians then you would be eliminating all Christians the second they got married right yeah yeah so that's easier to answer the right arm is actually more difficult and then I the I guess sort of
05:05:48
Brian Atlasthe context here is to I I know these are obvious obviously extreme examples hypotheticals unrealistic uh I suppose logic yeah and
05:06:00
Brian Atlasthe I suppose the application here is that at what point can a Christian when
05:06:06
Brian Atlasit comes to the law and there are laws that are uh when it comes to
05:06:15
Brian Atlasmarriage and the state's control over this that have serious negative impacts on men at what point could a Christian
05:06:26
Brian Atlasman say well I'm still going to get Mar I in this case you I suppose you can do it secretly uh or no it would it I guess
05:06:35
Brian Atlasthe angle would more so be as a Christian I going to have premarital sex I'm going to have children out of wedlock because the state has made it so
05:06:46
Brian Atlasunappealing and so detrimental for me to get married that I'm going to do this outside of
05:06:56
Brian Atlasmarriage the I'm going to I'm going to do these acts that I suppose would be a sin because the state has essentially forced my
05:07:06
Andrew Wilsonhand well so the cat the the Catholic answer to this to that would be simple Catholics would defer to natural law and say that that was a reflection of marriage anyway so so it would probably
05:07:18
Andrew Wilsonjust be permitted right uh but I'm not sure don't quote me on this but I think that they would just appeal to natural law it's actually a much more difficult question from the Orthodox perspective and I'd have to think on it because uh
05:07:31
Andrew Wilsonthat's actually a tough question yeah anyway the idea here is like how far can you push it before it's necessary for you to do these things in sin just to continue Christianity is what you're
05:07:43
Brian Atlasgetting at yeah yeah that creates a kind of an impossible scenario in a way so I'll think about it but I'm going to come up with an answer Brian sure sure I was just curious um anyways didn't mean to
05:07:54
Brian Atlasderail there but um going back to you you were saying that what about in Christianity yeah you're saying it's bad like for I'll just go ahead I'll just go ahead and like Grant that uh if you're religious you probably should adhere to
05:08:07
Brian Atlasyour religious values and get married but there's still even religious men face risks and detriments when it comes to marriage that are not really
05:08:15
Brian Atlasaddressed even by religion but um let's say in a secular context can you make a compelling reason why a man should get
05:08:28
Isabellamarried happiness stems from connections you make but you said you could date them without marriage so yep yeah I have nothing to say against that anything Katie I don't really have a compelling
05:08:39
Katie Valentineargument for that I disagreed because I kind of think like legally marriage is [ __ ] for both people the man and the woman um is it how just curious how how much do you make how much do I make a
05:08:52
Brian Atlasyear yeah probably I mean I'll say 100K okay well you said minimum yearly income you want uh a man to make 200k so he's out
05:09:04
Brian Atlasearning You by two uh two times he's making 100K more than you if you guys were married for a period of time I don't know if you'd want to maybe take work you said you wanted to stop working right yeah that's what I said if if no I
05:09:15
Katie Valentinedon't I just me if I wasn't like if I was with somebody who didn't want me to work and that was the decision I would want them to make 200 but if I had to work or we made the decision that I would also be working then I would be
05:09:27
Brian Atlasable to cut that but in this situation assuming you did find a guy who could have you stop working in what in what way would you Faire worse than him in the event of a divorce um I think that women go through a lot of different
05:09:40
Katie Valentinethings in marriages than men but I worked in family law and I watched a lot of women suffer through divorce so you mean like their feelings I mean they can suffer financially too youing me specifically and my income but a lot of
05:09:52
Katie Valentinewomen still contribute income to their marriages um make a lot of sacrifices within marriage and then when they go through a divorce can also get
05:10:02
Katie Valentinecompletely um yeah look I mean uh there certainly you know can protect protect their assets and money in lots of ways um I uh doesn't necessarily mean because you
05:10:15
Emily (Inula)marry her she's going to take you to the cleaners for all your money if you if you guys have to div if she stops working and work like a stay-at-home mom
05:10:23
Emily (Inula)for like 10 years if they divorce she has no money she has no money and it's difficult for her to get a job because she hasn't been practicing for like 10 years I mean but if the guy's providing
05:10:35
Brian Atlaseverything then if we just rewind time she basically goes to where she was although most most realistically she's probably better
05:10:46
Brian Atlasoff so what get off with with what I mean you're say like you're so what would she was just homeless all women are just homeless before they meet their Partners
05:10:59
Emily (Inula)she has an education but if she doesn't work for 10 years and was to apply for the same jobs he has no experience you think a woman who hasn't been working for 10 years is just like perpetually
05:11:09
Brian Atlas[ __ ] like they can't just like either go back to school or they just lie on their resume or they just say yeah I was married and now I'm not looking for a
05:11:20
Emily (Inula)job go back to whatever the [ __ ] they were doing before yeah but it's just difficult if if you're a software engineer and hasn't been working for
05:11:30
Brian Atlaslike 10 years if you apply for a software engineer job you don't have the experience for the 10 years you miss being still a software engineer and your income's probably I mean you'll have to
05:11:42
Brian Atlasmaybe get caught up on recent developments in in that career field but I mean you're probably still going to be doing pretty okay software Engineers are my understanding paid compensated fairly
05:11:55
Brian Atlaswell in this case you're saying she took time off work which indicates to me that in this scenario the man was making enough money to support both of them MH they've been
05:12:07
Brian Atlastogether for 10 years alimony law kicks so she's going to get money from the divorce what is in the the man's going to have to pay her money post divorce
05:12:18
Brian Atlasand she's going to get 50% of all the money well it depends exactly how it works out but she gets 50% of everything that was made during the marriage I don't think we have that in
05:12:29
Brian AtlasDenmark I don't know that I don't know the laws in Denmark I would assume there's some similarities maybe not exact but um I look I'll Grant to you that if the
05:12:41
Brian Atlaswoman's the bread winner she can also get [ __ ] the only difference is is that one there's a bias in the court system and then two men are much less likely to go after
05:12:53
Brian Atlaseven if the woman was the bread winner men are much less likely to like go after resources in the same way that women do it happens but they're much less
05:13:05
Brian Atlaslikely to do it more men are willing even if the woman woman earned more than him just walk away men are way more willing to do that than the reverse for
05:13:16
Brian Atlasy'all you're like I'm going to get what I'm owed because you feel entitled to
05:13:24
Brian Atlasit any other a couple other of a couple other of you disagreed on this Riley men marriage is a bad deal for men anything from you
05:13:35
IsabellaRiley I mean if you're looking at it from the point of view of like into the mic please the woman is giving you everything that you want out of the relationship and she's simply asking you
05:13:46
Isabellafor this sense of like having a marriage will give me a sense of security and yes I'm okay to sign a prenup I think giving
05:13:55
Isabellaher that sense of security makes your life a lot more easier in a whole of the whole aspect of it I mean it's a bit solipsistic why can't I just say us not
05:14:07
Brian Atlasgetting married gives me security now we're at a deadlock who gets who who gets the security you or me I
05:14:20
Isabellamean I feel like some sort of obviously some sort of compromise would have to happen but at the end of day so the compromise is prup I mean yeah that's what I would say
05:14:31
Brian Atlasand you so you'd be fine signing a prup yeah it is a compromise but the issue with prenuptual agreements is
05:14:42
Katie Valentineand you're paralal right did you do family law stuff yeah in the beginning of my school program I worked you're too far from the mic Miss oh sorry yeah I worked at a family law office for like almost two years in the beginning of my
05:14:54
Brian Atlasprogram yeah okay uh could you per I don't know if you have the intel on this but um prenups can only deal with assets of the
05:15:06
Brian Atlasparties prior to the marriage is that correct yeah like you can't say you a woman could not sign a prup that said the man keeps 100% of everything he
05:15:17
Brian Atlasowned prior to entering the marriage and every and every single thing that he earns during the marriage remains his
05:15:26
Brian Atlasand if in the event of a divorce you get nothing like I don't think a prup can do that is that correct I can't I I'm not
05:15:38
Katie Valentinegoing to say out right but I don't think I think you can I think that you can protect certain things going forward once you are in the marriage sorry it's
05:15:50
Katie Valentinea habit but I can't speak I'm not I'm not going to speak on that from an attorney standpoint oh all right [Music]
05:15:59
Brian Atlasokay odd groups go to Left evenou groups go to the right that means 1357 left 2 468 right seven and eight are welp groups okay
05:16:11
Brian Atlaslisten the [ __ ] up you're going to DPS very very slowly that's a [ __ ] 50 dkp minus what the [ __ ] was that
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Brian Atlas[ __ ] [ __ ] thank you man appreciate it thank you trash Banda uh okay uh Kayla did you have anything Kyla my bad you're good I get it all the time um I just
05:16:34
Kylabelieve I'm going to sound like Charlie Kirk here um but I believe believe in the core and Traditional Values of being
05:16:41
Kylaan American I believe that um you should get married have a family and teach them the same values and hope the same for them and also being a Christian I
05:16:54
Kylabelieve that you know that is really important um to get married and have that Covenant between you and the person you're supposed to be with okay
05:17:07
Amandaum well I have not been convinced um I did have a small thought on it um and this is just like you said giving
05:17:17
Amandayou an argument right and so do you feel as a man that you want to be a provider for your partner you expect her to Bow right uh yeah so my perspective on this
05:17:29
Amandaand this is just a thought that I've had sitting here this evening but the ultimate form of protection for a woman is getting married and so if you are trying to be that provider and protector for her then you would marry
05:17:47
Brian Atlasher also a lot of women so basically I um in terms of what I get she likes me
05:17:57
Brian Atlasmore like that's the benefit for me is like I uh no it's your personal iate I plate to her desires that's what I yet
05:18:09
Amandano I'm saying to be in line with your views of wanting to be a provider and a protector the best way to do why do I need to be married to do that because being married offers additional
05:18:19
Brian Atlasprotections to your partner to her correct so you want to be a provider and a protector but to your partner yeah but also like to for example to protect my
05:18:30
Brian Atlaswoman from not getting a splinter I'm not going to um cut off my arm so there kind of protection you're talking about uh protection that is
05:18:42
Brian Atlasoffered I suppose to women through marriage is not life and limb uh well I mean think about plenty of plenty of women get divorced and they there is no safety concerns so the protection aspect
05:18:54
Brian Atlasis kind of to me not really compelling and then the providing aspect I can still provide absent marriage so I just it's not compelling either so maybe my
05:19:05
Amandadefinition of protection is a little different but you know let's say you are in a long-term monogamous relationship but you're not married and you both have assets whether equal or not and
05:19:17
Amandasomething happens to you she is not your next of kin and therefore cannot receive any of the benefits so if you guys have been living in a house that you own that she's not on but she's been cleaning it you know taking care of it hosting
05:19:30
Amandafamily meals and now she's put out because you know there's a tragedy and you guys didn't have any sort of living will in place so you're saying in the event of
05:19:40
Brian Atlasmarriage uh in the event of an untimely death she would get certain she would get my state basically AB if we didn't have kids it would it would go to her even just to protect your children right
05:19:53
Amandalike you can set up things so that in even in a monogamous non-marital relationship you can set up protections for that person that is mothering your children and so well that's the point I
05:20:05
Brian Atlaswas about to make I don't need marriage to I could just sign a will that says here's this is going to them I mean that's no different than doing a prenup
05:20:16
Brian Atlasthough right like and still getting married as opposed to doing like a living will where she gets it if something happens so it's kind if if I was dating a woman and I
05:20:28
Brian Atlasmade the determination that like upon my death this is the person that I wanted my assets to go to I could sign a contract that allowed that to happen
05:20:39
Brian Atlasbut if we're married and then we get divorced then bad financial situation I mean I'm with a prenup I think everyone should sign one honestly
05:20:52
Amandayeah but it's still not really compelling to me also I'm going to be all I'm saying is that if for you as a man if you feel like you want to be the protector then marriage would be a
05:21:04
Brian Atlasreason a way to protect your partner I mean I can sign a contract that just says here's my will you get all my upon my death you get my assets or whatever
05:21:14
Amandaso I don't need marriage to get that or to provide that just like you're asking a woman for a prenup like it's just
05:21:22
Brian Atlaspaperwork documentation so I but I don't need marriage to do that to do what to have children you
05:21:33
Brian Atlasjust no I'm literally responding to what you just said I don't need marriage you you said in the event of your
05:21:41
Brian Atlasuntimely death in order to ensure that if if it's your desire for your assets whatever to go to your wife instead of
05:21:52
Amandaperhaps somewhere less desirable I can just have a a will I don't need marriage guess I guess my position is coming from those types
05:22:03
Amandaof conversations like what happens after you know don't typically occur unless unless you're in a marital relationship like what happens to your partner after they pass away is not a conversation
05:22:14
Cenathat people typically get into even at our age and so but I don't need marriage in order to have that you don't but I think it's like an extra level of
05:22:25
Amandasecurity and safety for both parts the question that you asked was why like what argument would we give you to get married my response to that is if you
05:22:36
Amandadefine yourself as a protector and a provider marriage is the ultimate protection that you can provide to your
05:22:45
Brian Atlaspartner yeah I it's not compelling whatsoever it's not compelling
05:22:55
Brian Atlasum you guys always it's like you always think about what's best for you I don't think there is an answer to this why
05:23:04
Brian Atlasshould men men what's the benefit to me if she if she earns more so the only scenario is she earns
05:23:16
Isabella/TTSmore that's the only benefit go find yourself a millionaire woman okay I'm going to move it on then there 1,469 donated
05:23:28
Isabella/TTS$99 question to the panel what's your opinion on reverse alimony in the event of a divorce initiated by a woman without a man's fault so would this be the woman the woman has to pay the man
05:23:39
Brian Atlasalimony MVP in the event of a divorce initiated by the woman without the man's that's how I'm taking it yeah you think it's fair game if the woman's the bread
05:23:50
Brian Atlaswinner she should have to pay alimony to the man fair game yes yes yeah okay thank you MVP I agree this is why I will only marry a billionaire female I will
05:24:01
Brian Atlasonly put me in the delusion calculator I am [ __ ] um let's see here uh moving on to the next thing uh hold on what is
05:24:11
Brian Atlasit uh it was who said it it was is there an issue no she just asked what time it was so I was showing her is
05:24:23
Brian Atlasthere an issue uh this is for you uh men are not insecure for caring about a woman's body count Circle you Circle Amanda I think
05:24:34
Jasmineit was just you too is that correct you disagree oh I did no I tried I accidentally circled and then I canceled it out I don't think they're insecure
05:24:45
Brian Atlasfor oh okay I see uh so I think it was just you Amanda uh you think men are insecure if they care about the woman's body count is that correct yeah okay why is that because I think men can go out
05:24:56
Amandaand do whatever they want with their bodies so why can't
05:25:01
Amandawe what if they don't then that's their prerogative I think that you have you're entitled to have your opinion in terms of relationships to yourself you're entitled to want a woman with a
05:25:13
Amandalow body count but I still think it's a little bit of an insecurity okay so body count shouldn't matter then right yeah okay going around the table do you think body count should
05:25:25
Brian Atlasmatter for men and women both um how about um do you think body count should not
05:25:34
Brian Atlasmatter to men like they shouldn't it's the past it shouldn't matter yeah then it shouldn't it should should or
05:25:43
Amandashouldn't should should should should should it should I don't think it matters okay it
05:25:55
Kylashould matter I think it should and I also I think that men are valid for thinking that it should matter going around the table
05:26:09
Brian Atlaswhat's your body count starting with Cena or no starting with you since you're the you think body count doesn't matter oh I don't know I've been with the same dude for 12 years I don't know my
05:26:21
Amandanumbers range I don't know haven't thought about it in a long time couldn't tell you so you forgot
05:26:32
Brian Atlasyeah is it you think it's over 30 no idea
05:26:41
Brian Atlasno idea nope going around the table uh body count 302 um hold
05:26:53
Brian Atlas[Music] on uh one more time 302 okay sorry my English isn't perfect
05:27:03
Brian Atlasno we use we use the same numerical system um 300 so you only have you only got two more to go three oh
05:27:15
Emily (Inula)30 um wait are you joking or for real no no no I'm actually for real and you've kept track yes sort of uh I mean I there's some I don't know
05:27:27
Emily (Inula)the names of but that was like way in the past but yeah um and you have do you keep a list yeah do you have it on your
05:27:37
Brian Atlasphone uh yeah okay um s you're 23 yeah when did you lose your virginity when I
05:27:46
Brian Atlaswas I just turned 16 16 hold on so
05:27:50
Brian Atlasthat's 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 that's 8 300 divided by 3002 ided 8
05:28:02
Brian Atlas37.75 penises a year was there um how about what was the body count by the time you turned
05:28:10
Emily (Inula)18 by the time I turned 20 I can recall 60.4 Partners per
05:28:17
Brian Atlasyear yeah uh but by the time I turned 20 my body count was 68 68 so from 16 to 18
05:28:28
Emily (Inula)68 um how about the past year I have no idea 2024 yeah like this year's the year I've been with the most
05:28:39
Emily (Inula)people is it because of o yeah it is it is so like has it been 100 plus this year yeah 200 plus this year can't
05:28:48
Brian Atlasrecall but a lot okay and uh wait so hold on let me think about this
05:28:58
Brian Atlas3002 68 you said by the time you were 20 yeah 6 68 yeah 68 okay and then 100 in the past year here uh what how about the
05:29:10
Brian Atlasmost in a 24-hour period at the same time or just um how about let me think so you've had like three sums orgies yeah you've had orgies mhm uh I guess what's the biggest orgy
05:29:23
Brian Atlasyou've been a part of only five not like a huge one so when you say five in an orgy do you mean it was a five six some yeah five guys and
05:29:35
Emily (Inula)me it was a six some it only happened once yeah and then I had four sums and three sums more than a six sum no okay so you had a six sum of one
05:29:46
Brian Atlasfoursome wait one six some one foursome two fourms two fourms yeah and a lot of Threes a lot of threesome and they were
05:29:55
Brian Atlasuh were they all like all the men um one of the four sums was uh was with another couple okay I see and uh so how about