DEMON Satanic E-GIRL w/ 300+ Body Count (4 In 1 Day)?! Did WHAT In A GRAVEYARD?! | Dating Talk #216

Date: 2024-11-27

Duration: 7h 50m

Guests

Brian Atlas

EEmily (Inula)>

IIsabella (UCSB)>

KKatie Valentine >

AAmanda (Veterans)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Cena(guest)

SPEAKER_03Emily (Inula)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Isabella(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_07Isabella/TTS(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kyla(guest)

SPEAKER_12Katie Valentine(guest)

SPEAKER_13Amanda(guest)

SPEAKER_14Jasmine(guest)

Key Moments

IntroEmily (Inula) introduces herself as 23yo Danish/Hungarian OnlyFans creator; reveals satanic tattoo

“I'm Inula but you can call me Emily, I'm 23 and I'm partly living in Hungary and Denmark”

IntroCena introduces herself - 18yo Canadian, OnlyFans + engineering student (returning guest)

“hi my name is Cena I'm 18 my occupation is OF and I live in Canada”

RelationshipKatie Valentine reveals on-again off-again complicated relationship (~5-6 years, 4 years cohabiting); previously had 7.5 year relationship

“currently I'm kind of in an on again off again relationship... we were together for four years and we lived together and then we had a breakup”

IntroJasmine introduces herself - 27yo pharmacy tech from LA, engaged 4 years

“my name is Jasmine I am 27 years old from LA I work part-time managing a smoke shop”

RelationshipJasmine reveals she is currently engaged, 4-year relationship, her longest

“at the moment I am currently engaged uh we have been together for going on 4 years”

Key MomentEmily reveals her boyfriend drove her to hook up with another man and waited outside while she had sex - then kissed her when she returned

“he would drive you to one guy but you went to that guy multiple times... when you got back in the car would he go in for a kiss immediately... he went in for the kiss yeah”

QuoteBrian PSA: Men should never date a woman who is sexually involved with another man - it's a baseline standard

“this should be your Baseline standard even if you struggle to get women it should be the you do not sink this low ever ever your Baseline should be if a woman is sexually involved with another man that is 100% a deal breaker”

ControversyAndrew challenges Emily: if she believes in equal rights she is a feminist by definition; lists her liberal positions vs claimed conservatism

“so to get this right: pro women's Choice pro LGBTQ pro women's Liberation where's is there a single conservative principal hidden anywhere”

ControversyAndrew systematically lists Emily's "conservative" contradictions: masturbated on grave, got abortion (preventing boyfriend from being a father), pro-women's liberation, pro-LGBTQ

“so far what we have is that you masturbated on a dude's grave and this was after you were with a guy and you went and had an abortion thus making it so that he would never be a father”

IntroRiley arrives late and introduces herself - 27yo web3 developer, Vegas, just out of a relationship

“my name is Riley I'm 27 years old I'm a web 3 developer and I live in Vegas”

ControversyEmily reveals she masturbated on a dead man's grave for $200 custom OF request; police were called but did nothing

“a guy asked you to do a solo tape on his father's tombstone... I visited the grave paid my respect and then... well I visited the grave”

QuoteSelf-ratings round - Cena rates herself 5 (was 8 on Sunday), Brian asks why she lost 3 points in 48 hours

“why did you lose three points in 48 hours... you were here on Sunday... now you're mid a five”

Key MomentBrian: if girlfriend wants to go to bachelorette party in Mexico, relationship is over - different values

“she's just not going... you can go the relationship is over it was nice to meet you we have different values”

Key MomentJasmine reveals she was undocumented since age 3 and was involved with a pimp (served as bottom bitch/assistant)

“I'm not legally from here so my process... I was a ghost in the system at the time... I would just help him around with whatever girls he was working with”

Key MomentJasmine reveals she was married at 22 and divorced, then almost pimped out by a sugar daddy who used her undocumented status

“he was like a literal pimp yes... wanted to make me one of his... I would just help him around with whatever girls he was working with... it was it was basically you could call it that”

QuoteAndrew: Brian can't get a plastic straw in CA due to stigma against plastic, but can freely access all OF content online

“Brian lives in a state currently where he can't get a plastic drinking straw because of the stigma against plastic... but right now he can go on that laptop and pull up all of your naked pictures”

Key MomentEmily reveals body count of 302 - 100+ this year alone due to OF customs; had 68 partners before age 20

“body count 302... this year's the year I've been with the most people is it because of OF... 200 plus this year”

QuoteAndrew formally challenges Michael Knowles to a 1v1 debate on the Whatever Podcast about the manosphere

“I'd like to challenge Michael Knowles to a debate on the whatever podcast uh just 1 V one he's been on before so have I we know Brian Atlas will be a fair moderator”

TopicAndrew Wilson wraps up and leaves the show after ~7 hours

“Andrew thank you for coming... thank you for joining us”

Key MomentIsabella walks through the logic that a man dating a trans woman is homosexual (Brian leads her through it until she concedes)

“a transgender woman is male... through sex yeah... so trans a transgender woman is male you agree with this... man dating a transgender woman is homosexual”

Key MomentMakeup removal challenge - all female guests wipe off makeup; chat reacts to who looks better without makeup

“okay who's going to do it Cena you going to do it... boom boom... I need a lot of makeup”

Key MomentCena eats entire Snickers bar in one bite as a challenge

“okay guys this is she... you have to one bite... yeah I made it”

Topics Discussed

Show Intro & Guest Introductions

Brian opens the show, explains delayed start due to rain. Guests introduce themselves in order: Emily (Danish OF creator, 23), Cena (18, Canadian, returning guest), Isabella (18, UCSB), Katie Valentine (34, Las Vegas, paralegal/escort), Amanda (34, Sacramento, veterans mental health), Kyla (27, Arizona, modeling). Jasmine arrives later and introduces herself. Riley arrives even later.

Emily's Open Relationship & Graveyard Story

Brian reads Emily's pre-show notes. Discussion of her open relationship at 16-18 where boyfriend drove her to hookups. The boyfriend was a cuck who kissed her when she returned. Brian gives PSA about men not accepting this. Emily also reveals she masturbated on a dead man's grave for a $200 OF custom during Halloween - the requester's father's grave. Police were called after her TikTok but did nothing. Andrew notes Danish law on grave desecration.

Emily's Abortion & Conservative vs Liberal Contradictions

Andrew challenges Emily's claim to be conservative while holding pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ, pansexual, sex-work-positive views. Emily had an abortion on her birthday (boyfriend had testicular cancer and wanted to keep baby; she went back to him after). Andrew catalogues her contradictions.

Riley Arrives Late - Age Gap Relationship Discussion

Riley introduces herself as a web3 developer who just arrived. She was in a 30-year age gap relationship with a 57yo man she met while serving at a casino. They waited 3 months to have sex (long distance). Discussion of age gap dynamics.

Self-Ratings Round (1-10 looks)

Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10. Cena rates herself 5 (was 8 on Sunday - says makeup is off today). Emily: 5. Isabella: 5. Katie: 7-7.5 without everything, 8-8.5 with; said she was 9-10 at peak (28-29). Jasmine: 5.5. Amanda: 7. Kyla: 7. Andrew: 4. Brian: 4. Discussion of when women peak physically.

Do Women Peak in their 20s? Aging & Looks Discussion

Extended debate on whether women peak physically in their 20s. Brian argues women will not be better looking at 40 vs 25 all else equal. Amanda and Jasmine claim they'll be better looking later. Andrew argues cosmetic enhancements are designed to maintain youthful appearance. Discussion of confidence vs actual physical beauty, BBL, breast implants, push-up bras. Most women cope about aging.

Makeup: Deceptive or Enhancing?

Katie disagrees makeup is always deceptive - thinks it can just enhance natural features. Brian argues makeup is deceptive because attraction happens before conscious assessment. 50/50 split on panel. Discussion of fake lashes, contouring vs natural. At end of show they do makeup removal challenge.

Sex Work, Dating & Traditional Roles

Brian's position: women in sex work don't deserve traditional gentleman treatment (paying for dates, being providers). Not saying they can't find men who do it, just that they don't deserve it. Panel debates: women claim they still want traditional treatment despite non-traditional work. Andrew argues sex work/porn rewires men's brains, causes harm similar to addiction. Emily argues men buy it so it can't be wrong. Andrew uses body disposal analogy.

Penis Size Discussion

Does size matter? Yes/no split. Jasmine says average girth is fine (5.5" or even 4" if average girth). Katie admits she'd still have sex even if size was disappointing but no second date. Amanda wants girth proportionate to length (minimum 6in). Measurement tape comes out. Discussion of "pity sex."

Women Caring About Looks More Than Men

Brian argues women care more about looks than men based on specific things: height (out of control), hair (balding), and penis size (physical not visual). Kyla gives compelling argument: women swipe on only 10% of men on dating apps while men swipe on nearly everyone. Discussion of whether men are superficial vs strategic swipers.

Going Out to Bars/Clubs in Relationships

Extended debate on whether women in relationships should go out to bars/clubs. Brian: women going out is a bigger liability than men because women will be approached/pursued. Amanda: husband doesn't want her traveling internationally without him - discusses compromise. Katie: trusts partner but brings up bachelorette party example (Mexico). Andrew makes emotional appeal about irrational fears. Brian: would end relationship if girlfriend went to bachelorette party. Discussion of symmetry in relationship rules.

Delusional Dating Calculator

Brian runs the Slate Delusional Dating Calculator for Katie (200k income, 6ft+, no obese, any race, 28-50): 0.96%. With married included ~similar. Riley (150k, 5'5"+, 27-57, no obese): 1%. Cena (no income req, 4'11"+ height, 18-30, no obese excluded): 0.062%. Andrew explains how dropping a few standards would skyrocket the percentages.

Marriage: Bad Deal for Men?

Brian argues marriage is a bad deal for men. Guests try to make case for marriage: tradition, loyalty, security, protection. Brian rebuts each point - can get all benefits without marriage contract. Discusses divorce statistics skewed toward women. Prenups can't fully protect. Andrew notes Danish divorce stats same as US. Brian's hypothetical about hand amputation to get married (Christian ethics debate with Andrew). Riley says sign prenup and give her security. Katie: agrees marriage is bad financially for both.

Body Count Round

Body counts revealed around the table. Emily: 302 (shocking, 100+ this year alone due to OF customs; 68 by age 20; 4 in one day max; had 6-some once). Cena: 3. Isabella: 2. Katie: refused to share (over/under 1000 professionally also refused). Amanda: forgot/unknown (been with husband 12 years). Kyla: 7. Jasmine: declined (said it's between her and her fiancé). Riley: declined.

Aging Photos (AI Age Progression)

Damian pulls up AI age progression photos of all the women. Mixed reactions - some look the same, some age well in the AI, some get "armpit fat" added. Kyla sees herself looking like her mom. Brief but fun segment.

Feminism: Equality or Women's Advocacy?

Brian argues first-wave feminism wasn't about equality because women got the vote without military conscription. Andrew notes most women voted against suffrage originally. Brian: feminism fights for women's benefits only, never takes away privileges. Riley and Isabella disagreed on questionnaire (thought it was about equality). Brian walks through logic showing even first-wave feminism was selective.

Women Oppressed? Slut-Shaming Debate

Amanda says women are oppressed (slut-shaming double standard). Andrew and Brian challenge: how is a preference (not wanting to date high-body-count women) oppressive? Brian: social shaming is the only tool to reduce hookup culture. Amanda: hookup culture can have positive aspects (sexual self-knowledge). Andrew: society has campaigns against smoking/drinking but none against porn/OF.

Andrew Wilson Departure & Michael Knowles Challenge

Andrew says goodbye and issues formal challenge to Michael Knowles (conservative commentator) to debate on Whatever Podcast. Clarifies the Nala clip controversy - some other account (not Whatever) added misleading headline. Andrew notes the episode had the most selectively edited clips of any Whatever episode.

Is Dating a Man Transgender Gay? Logic Exercise

Isabella disagreed on questionnaire that "it's not straight for a man to date a trans woman." Brian walks her through: can't change sex, only gender. Trans woman is biologically male. Homosexual = same-sex. Therefore man + trans woman = homosexual. Isabella eventually concedes. Discussion of post-op trans scenarios.

Roast Session / TTS Reading

$20 TTS roast session. Highlights: LOL paladins multiple donations roasting various guests. Danny Simmon rates panel "solid four." Roasts of Emily (Viking pillaging for a fee), Jasmine (pimp story). Brian reads Brian's mom TTS. Cena eats a Snickers bar in one bite. Makeup removal challenge - guests wipe makeup off to reveal natural faces. Comments on who looks better without makeup.

Show Outro & Twitch Raid

Brian wraps up. Jasmine thanks Brian for having her. Brian tries to raid streamer "Mitch" who was going for world first hardcore run in WoW Classic but got disconnected. Brian sends kind message. Final TTS messages read. Brian eats burrito on stream after champagne pop donation. Outro with raid to Mitch.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasuh I'm just shocked about the grave thing that's [ __ ] up man yeah you should probably what if his uh what if his Spirit haunts you now yeah man I

Emily (Inula)think you there's a curse on you you have you've been I let him like Danish

Isabella/TTSCSE yeah Isn't that cool like that's uh that is a Ragnar me the Kaa donated

Isabella/TTS$200 ran I better get some love for this TTS oh no I heard $200 can go a long way these days uh I will not desecrate a

Brian Atlasgrave but I will I'll do it for you I'll do it too no I will I will urinate on any Democratic

Brian Atlaspolitical signs in and around Santa Barbara for 200 for $200 I will he's kidding he's kidding he's kidding I will desecrate definitely joking it's a joke

Brian Atlaswould that be is it yeah that's a big no no no he's kidding is that joking no I'm totally kidding but is that um is that uh terrorism or

Andrew Wilsonwhat no it's no that's a specific criteria but it's politically motivated it's like a hate CRI not a hate crime but no it follow but it it falls under I don't remember

Andrew Wilsonwhat the criteria is vandalism well yeah but it's I feel like it's uh extra public urination is indecent Ino exposure so that's at least one risk there yeah it's vandalism it would be

Brian Atlasthis would it would be a conspiracy to commit vandalism right but it's like I think it it's uh because it's polit politic uh politically motivated there would be

Andrew Wilsonlike it would be worse I'm kidding by the way I'm kidding no what he was talking about was that there was any Alliance signs that the

Andrew Wilsonhorde finds uh we will be taking those signs down immediately that's all he's saying that's all I'm saying it's a joke guys I'm joking I'm joking all right um

Brian AtlasW classic I'll do it for Bitcoin in WoW classic just kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding okay okay uh we have a message here Cena you're in go ahead read it can we please go back to the precise use of

Cenathe English language shair one chair one you aren't you are not by any stretch of the imagination of conservative traditional you

Brian Atlasthe epitome epitome of boundless degeneracy degeneracy and immorality thank

Andrew Wilsonyou for that I just want to summarize very quickly for you that he's essentially saying that he thinks you're a horrible person yeah no I got that okay damn I didn't want there to be any

Andrew Wilsonmiscommunication after all he did spend $200 and it does go see if it goes that far in Denmark we should really be treating these super Chatters a lot better I think what is a super

Brian Atlaschatter the person that paid $200 to talk [ __ ] oh yeah it's a super chatter uh yeah uh JJ we can't pull it up but thank you for the Super Chat man I

Brian Atlasappreciate it uh okay moving on then we have uh why don't we just go right next Riley here who just joined us you the topics you wanted to talk on age Gap or actually hold on before I get into that

Brian Atlasyou said you've been single for one month correct have you had a rebound no have you had

Brian Atlasany encounter whatsoever with a male or female or they them the past month yeah no

Brian Atlasokay so you've been celibate for a month yeah good talk and you wanted to talk about age Gap

Isabellarelationships so the guy that um I just broke up with a month ago or it was Mutual um there was a 30-year age Gap

Brian Atlasrelationship age Gap so he was 57 and you're 27 yeah okay all right um you could have also maybe had a graveyard

Brian Atlasencounter uh that's cool just kidding he probably had another 10 years or something um if I would have stayed that would have been the end so uh is that the only time you've had an age Gap

Isabellarelationship um yeah the guy dated for seven years it was just like a year in between that so how did you meet the uh the gentleman um I was working at a casino

Isabellaat the time and he was just like sitting up at the bar and he came and talked to me all right it was it a monogamous

Brian Atlasrelationship yes all right and uh so what did you uh what you were a car dealer or what were you doing

Isabellaat the casino um serving serving yeah okay not so you weren't like a one I was a server so I would go around with like the drinks and everything that the

Brian Atlasbartender you weren't like a dealer or like a game person okay and uh What uh what Drew you to him besides his Social

IsabellaSecurity that he was going to get soon the so in the moment honestly it was it was my first day at work and I didn't really know what I was doing and

Isabellanobody was giving me real direction to what I was doing um he kept coming up to me asking me all these questions and it just got to the point where I was like look if you want want me to get you a manager I will but like I don't know I

Isabelladon't know the answers to anything you're asking um and he was just kind of like he was like no no no no like I just wanted to I just wanted to talk to you

Isabellablah blah blah anyways we got drinks um after that like at a different location and we just kind of hit it off but yeah that same day like later that night yeah

Isabelladid you guys smash no no no no carinal knowledge it was like 3 months into it three 3 months yeah well like it was long he didn't he didn't actually live

Brian Atlasin Vegas it was long distance so but like so you guys hung out that time then he left correct and then did you smash the next time you saw him in

Brian Atlasperson no okay would he always come to you or would you go to him it was a little bit of both is that do you normally make guys

Brian Atlaswait three months or was that kind of um I think the cuz he didn't have much time left I feel like you needed to like hurry that [ __ ] along you know I think because it was long distance that

Isabellakind of made it longer than what I would like naturally do but um yeah no the there was maybe like shouldn't it be the opposite I feel like

Brian Atlasit's got to be the opposite if it's long distance there was like three or four we met up like three or four times before it actually happened I think it's got for long-distance relationships you that

Brian Atlas[ __ ] you got to speed that [ __ ] up it's because it's one thing if you're like see you can see the person almost at any given time if it's long distance you

Brian Atlasguys can only see each other what once a month maybe you got to be you got to get the get the sex in while you can you can't be we were we were both um we both just

Isabellaaccepted that like we wanted to get to know each other better and we understood that we couldn't do that as easily because it was long distance wait was he so just curious on the whole waiting

Brian Atlasthing was was he like trying to hit and you're like n no n let's wait I want to get it was really yeah if anything I kind of I kind of came no no no no he's

Brian Atlasnot gay okay all right yeah you sure definitely not so you're saying he wasn't trying to have sex with you

Isabellano that's not what I'm saying like there was an attraction between the two of us but um he appreciated like a buildup of like kind of waiting I guess you could say maybe because he's like older a

Brian Atlaslittle more oldfashioned old fashioned yeah oldfashioned um and uh what have you ever had the one night

Brian Atlasstand one time have you ever um hooked up your wait your uh seven-year relationship from what age to what age

Isabellawas your seven-year relationship 17 to 24 how long did that guy wait for the sex like a

Brian Atlasmonth and then have have you had sex you know maybe second date third date maybe not one

Isabellanight stand but first date second date third date the like on a third date yeah so what's the

Brian Atlasdifference like why do like some guys get a hit it immediately some guys get hit it early on some dudes got to wait a month the seven-year relationship guy

Brian Atlashad a wait a month 10 year or sorry 10mon relationship guy he's got to wait 3 months

Brian Atlaswhy like I just what what's why the different differential here I mean me the different situations just so for

Isabellastarts with the seven-year relationship I was a lot younger um I was losing my virginity at the time and I was like kind of like nervous about the

Isabellasituation um and then once we broke up I kind of had like a Revenge one night stand and then after that I didn't

Isabellareally want to have any part in any type of like sexual encounters after that um okay so then so then yeah the whole the three months thing with the guy it was

Isabellaliterally just because it was long distance and we both just wanted to like get to know each other face to face before and kind of have like a sexual

Brian Atlastension buildup if you will all right cool good times good times and uh you have crazy Vegas bartending stories coupled asked you for

Isabellaa threesome I so I've had a coworker and um

Brian Atlascustomers have you taken no I haven't but um yeah the swingers okay uh I guess on the threesome thing has anybody here had the

Brian Atlasthreesome what four some you've had more than the threeome here do me a favor hold on so it wouldn't be can you tilt your mic down

Jasmineoh this there you go that's good okay so I I don't know if to technically call it a threeome um was a dude watching the

Jasminecorner almost there no he was he was there he was very present okay was he present and crying though it was no no

Jasminehe was there was no crying involved at all it was just that it like it never fully happened and then it was it we

Jasmineended up just like both of us at the end just for a second just to see how it feels okay just and so um then it turned

Jasmineout like he didn't feel comfortable going through with it he pulled me to the side and he was like look I know you're stupid drunk right now you might

Jasminewake up tomorrow and look at me like why did you want to go through cuz I was like let's I I want it and and um he was like so it happened so that the the girl

Jasmineended up leaving it just kind of like yeah and then we were together at the end and honestly I I'm glad it happened the way it did because I'm pretty sure he was he was going to be right in the

Jasminemorning I was going to have like regrets and seconds thoughts or even back then my mentality is different than it is now so my head space where it was it was way out of sorts um I would have probably in

Jasminean arguments even even if it was like oh where's the remote I would have been like and you also let me let you have a threesome and so I would have been bringing it up in his face probably so

Jasmineum yeah so that's why I say I don't know if it f count I could definitely see how that would be his fault yeah yeah you see it's like cuz I as like a girl I feel like no matter what even if it's

Jasminelike us we're saying like yeah it's okay no it's cool we're always going to throw it back in in their face in one way or another subconsciously I feel so how

Brian Atlasdare that guy let you do that thing you wanted to how did you let me let you do that yeah so yeah we're going to come back to some of the pre-show notes but we do have Stiffler coming in ask

Brian Atlaseveryone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go

Brian Atlasahead I would say like a five five okay Cena I think I'm a five then then you what did you rate yourself last show an

Brian Atlaseight why did you lose three points in 48 hours 48 yeah you were here on Sunday do they use a

Brian Atlasdifferent system in Canada what is it they count there's not time clocks they they count the you have a sun dial yes

Andrew Wilsonah the sun dial okay when the sun they use snow metrics snow so listen so the you were here when the pile of snow was here and now it's

Brian Atlashere okay uh yeah so uh the snow yeah so you

Brian Atlaswere an eight yeah on Sunday yeah now you're mid a five you're five how did that happen just personal preference

Brian Atlastoday yeah did you are you it's the makeup today your makeup's all [ __ ] up yeah you're so right it's all

Katie Valentineum is it do you are you gassy is that it or no that could lower your point can I ask because it seemed like you changed your answer based on her answer like you

Katie Valentinekind of compared um and so like that was her own assessment so I was just curious why that would change for you based on what she thought what do you rate her then because you you're like oh she rated

Brian Atlasherself low I thought she must have been this so what did you what would you have rated her I guess well I would like on my scale or her

Cenascale or what would you rate her I would rate her like a eight okay yeah so you're like well oh if she's a five then I must be five no it's mainly the way

Brian Atlasthat I look today I guess what happened the makeup the makeup the M oh okay all right that's cool all right uh

Brian Atlaslost three points and uh what about you five like what what did you rate yourself last time six why why the downgrade cuz she's pretty as hell like

Brian Atlaswhat okay by the way what is that is that makeup or yeah it's just drawing yeah but what's the symbol it's like a it's a spiral Spiral okay yeah all right

Katie Valentineuh what about you I'm going to rate myself like no extensions lashes all that so I would

Katie Valentinesay seven seven and a half without without and then with um I think when I was younger I would

Brian Atlasrate myself higher but currently like maybe only go up to an eight eight and a half maybe eight and a half with all the stuff and then when you were younger

Katie Valentinelike your Peak or whatever the [ __ ] um 10 I would say nine I can't get myself a 10 I would never rate myself perfect and I had one time a guy told me

Brian AtlasI was a Vegas 10 10 but an LA 9 a Vegas 10 but an LA 9 okay what about

Jasmineyou um I want to say on a good day of five and a half all right what about you seven all

Andrew Wilsonright six all right seven I give myself a five Andrew what about you uh so since there's more realistic

Brian Atlasanswers today I'll go with the actual one about a four yeah not bad right yeah all right and then on this one though do you think you'll be better looking in t 10 years time so you're 23 do you think

Brian Atlasyou'll be better looking at 33 I hope but I don't think so no okay you're 18 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 28 yes 38 no do you think you'll be better looking in

Brian Atlas10 years time at 28 yes 20 years time at 38 yes 30 years time at 48 maybe not no when's the Peak maybe high 20s high 20s

Brian Atlasokay you're 34 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 44 no you're 34 do you think you were better looking at

Brian Atlas24 no better looking now at better looking now at 34 versus uh 10 years ago at

Katie Valentine24 yes didn't you say you were a nine when you were younger yeah but I go all way back that far

Brian Atlasin between 24 and so like 28 28 yeah okay so better looking at 28 than you

Brian Atlasare now at 34 correct how about this uh wait better looking now at 34 versus

Brian Atlas18 better looking now and then how about well I'll just ask uh better looking at 28 or 18 28 okay

Jasmineuh you are 27 better looking in 10 years time at 37 I to be quite honest I I honestly don't

Jasmineknow I want to say there's a 5050 no 50/50 yes if I have kids my body might change so you don't have kids if I don't

Brian Atlashave kids if I don't have kids I want to say I'll look decent decent enough now the question is though you be better

Brian Atlaslooking like so you now and then in 10 years son it's hard um I God

Jasminethat's considering my eating habits and my just habits I'm going to say just uh probably probably yes I look better

Jasmineokay in because eating habits eating habits yeah like I'm I'm changing up I'm trying to get healthier and like trying to work on myself to look better sure

Brian Atlaseating habits okay I have a question on that but uh and then you're 27 better looking now at 27 or we're going to go 9 years back uh or better

Brian Atlaslooking at 18 oh God no not at 18 better looking at 27 better looking now at 27 versus 18 okay and then going to you you're 34 better looking in 10 years

Brian Atlastime at I hope so okay uh better looking in 20 years time at 54 I hope it just gets better so but so you're saying you you

Brian Atlasthink you'll be better looking at 54 versus now 20 uh 34 excuse me I think that will depend on what resources are available to me such

Amandaas all kinds of different cosmetic and Athletics skin care atic like different workouts dietary we know so much more

Brian Atlasabout nutrition now than we did thing okay so um I think nut and you're talking plastic surgery too some yeah

Brian Atlasokay so like light or Botox or I it would depend on what I'm insecure about at that point let's go 30 years forward uh better looking at 64 versus now

Amanda34 um again I think it depends on what I'm willing to do at that point I I mean better looking I think my audience changes right so who's who's

Amandathe judge is it just me or is it generally right okay um actually I'm actually kind of confused by that right but why would your audience change it's like the same amount of 20- year olds as

Amanda50y olds are going to see you now as they do in 10 years right well no like I would consider like my judgment now is based on what my peers would consider and so I at at 54 I'm also still going

Amandato be taking into consideration the opinion of my peers which would be other people of the similar age so why wouldn't you take into account people who were 10 years younger than you I I mean I don't necessarily what

Andrew Wilsonpoint are they not peers anyway like once you hit 20 or 25 are you just not a peer with somebody anymore because they're 35 or 40 no I think there's a limit to that I think life experience can also change whether or not I

Andrew Wilsonconsider someone a peer yeah so I mean I don't know I don't know that your audience would change much right seems like it'd be basically the same people or the same same demographics who would look for the

Amandaattractiveness measure maybe a better way to put it is like how we judge attractiveness changes by age so I personally feel I'm more attractive now a lot of that has to do with the level

Amandaof self-confidence that I have and so I don't think that I had that level of confidence at 24 and I think that as you age especially as a woman you gain certain perspectives that only add to

Andrew Wilsonyour Allure as a woman can I ask you a question then of course let's say that a guy had the option between a two 24y old women and one was a drop dead knockout she was gorgeous but she was really shy

Andrew Wilsonand bashful and didn't have much confidence and the other one was really not very good-looking at all but she was a boss babe who do you think you would prefer um me personally you said she's

Amandanot attractive at all like not you personally what do you think the guy would prefer I mean [Music] I think it would depend on the guy right like what are what are his goals just

Andrew Wilsonyour average most of your average guys right just on average what do you think which one do you think you would prefer I mean I think he's going to go with the prettier one yeah exactly so the thing is is like if that's the case and I would agree with you right I think that

Andrew Wilsonthat's a reasonable assessment to make then what the hell does confidence have to do with anything like if we're asking for the for a physical metric of of beauty and that's what we're after so often I hear women say well but I'm a

Andrew Wilsonlot more conf now than I used to be when I was prettier but I don't actually understand that answer because it really doesn't have anything to do with the metric of the question of physical Beauty does it I think that the confidence piece comes from being

Andrew Wilsoncomfortable in the position that we don't get dressed up for the boys we get dressed up for ourselves and for the girls and I understand the confidence portion I get I get the confidence for I understand what I'm saying though is

Andrew Wilsonthat if we're asking for just a purely Beauty standard just to physical be like confidence somebody would have to talk to you they they'd have to they'd have to know you they you know so that would have to come into play there'd have to

Amandabe an interpersonal Dynamic but what about just somebody looking at you I feel like I can determine whether a person is confident or Not by looking at them what that I don't think not not

Amandaalways but if you are observing a person looking for whether or not they are confident you can tell by their body language no no yeah I mean you get three seconds you're walking down the street right the guy's walking past you he's

Andrew Wilsongot 2 seconds he just takes a look right oh she's good-looking or she's not they're like they're not like they don't got you know he makes ey huge goggles and they're like they're looking through their magnifying glass at you for and

Amandaobserving you for multiple minutes right they're just like walking past you they're not going to know what your confidence level is there maybe think it's pretty easy to determine if they make eye contact they're confident if they're not looking at you and they kind

Andrew Wilsonof avert immediately then they're kind of shy that's easy indic there can be women who walk with a certain gate let's say they walk with like a certain w that they that they do it uh where you could

Andrew Wilsonthink they're very confident and then you talk to them and they're totally not they're like H you know and they're kind of sheepish and this type of thing it all it to I I don't even know if we could judge confidence just at a look uh but even if you could even if I were to

Andrew Wilsongrant that there's some cases where you can judge if somebody's confident or not confident in some cases just if we're looking at it on average I think that most people can determine physical Beauty in another person at a glance

Andrew Wilsonlike it doesn't take much just look over that's all you need right to know if they you think they're attractive or not attractive so you're just going off that purely physical metric uh when we ask you know between 1 and 10 that's really

Andrew Wilsonwhat we're looking for it's like in 10 years at a glance is the average guy when he looks over going to think that you're better looking at this point in your life or at that one I understand we're going to we're

Brian Atlasgoing to get the rest of the answers from uh everybody uh you are 27 better looking in or wait hold on I don't did I get all the no I don't think I finished here hold on uh you said better looking

Amandaat 64 30 years than 34 yeah depending on what procedures I might have

Brian Atlasyeah um okay and uh what about 40 years time at uh probably at that point okay and when

Brian Atlaswould uh when's the PE Peak will be between 34 and 44 34 and 4 before okay so you have not hit your Peak yet correct okay and then going back 10

Brian Atlasyears time were you better looking at 24 than you are now at 34 no and then were you better looking at 18 than you are

Brian Atlasnow at 34 no okay going to uh you you're 27 better looking in 10 years time at 37 no okay and then you're 27 were you

Brian Atlasbetter looking at 18 than you are now at 27 no uh okay do you think you're currently at your physical peak I would say maybe like 24 so three years ago okay and then

Kylayou're 27 better looking in 10 years time at 37 uh no I believe that I've already hit my Peak probably around four five years

Kylaago so 22 23 yeah I don't think anybody reaches their Peak after the age of 30 in my opinion okay fair fair fair um how

Brian Atlasold are you again 27 you'll think differently later I mean what do you what do you mean she'll think different differently like as in

Katie Valentineterms of she'll cope no I just think as you get older especially as a woman and you look back and reflect on your looks later you that drastically changes

Katie Valentinethat's why I can say now that like I peaked at 28 because I can look back and say like oh sorry that like I made a lot of changes in my as far as like even

Katie Valentinejust little things as things I would do with my hair or my makeup that make me look a lot better that I learned over years when you're really young you're kind of just doing whatever trying to

Andrew Wilsonfigure it out different hair color different haircut like so I just I think that's reasonable to say if you're talking about a 4year stretch like 24 to 28 okay that's fine but I think it

Andrew Wilsonbecomes cope when you're 32 33 and you're like no when I was 24 I was I way better looking now what we're asking for is like you're just seeing a picture picture of a person right that's it you're Tak looking at their 24y old picture and you're looking at their 34y

Andrew Wilsonold picture what do you think the average person would find more attractive the 34 year old version of you or the 24y old version of you the

Katie Valentineaverage person yeah I think 34y old me okay erroneous

Katie Valentineerroneous um wait but so how about this all say sorry I wouldn't say that now about me at 28 or

Katie Valentine29 I think I was far better looking at 28 and 29 than I am now and I also think I was far better looking at 28 and 29 than I was at 18 or 19 so that's why I'm

Katie Valentinesaying like and I like Peak for me varies on the woman your everybody's Peak is different um for your physical appearance in my opinion what if we adjusted for this let me ask you this

Andrew Wilsonquestion have you had any sort of cosmetic enhancements absolutely yeah yeah so let's pretend that you're 19 years old and had the same cosmetic enhancements you have right now and now

Andrew Wilsonwe're looking at the same picture of you at 34 versus 1920 same cosmetic enhancements which one's which one's prettier definitely when I was younger

Andrew Wilson24 yeah so then the basic idea here is that you're using cosmetic enhancements in order to enhance a youthful standard for beauty that's what's going on and if you had those same cosmetic enhancements

Andrew Wilsonwhen you were younger you'd be pretty you're younger right yes yeah so so then I I think that that's why people get so confused by the answer of women when they often will say

Andrew Wilsonno I'll be a lot prettier in 10 years because they're banking on cosmetic enhancements in order to kind of keep their youthful look that make sense yeah that makes sense I I still think

Katie Valentineit's I don't necessarily think that all of the cosmetics enhancements that I have now would look good on me that young no um so I still think that that

Andrew Wilsoncould be different like um well which ones which ones would have looked worse um fundamentally have the same bone structure same height same everything

Katie Valentineright um yeah I mean I guess cosmetic surgery like I don't necessarily think all the work I had done on my body would have been appropriate at 18 I don't think it would have looked better I think it would have looked ridiculous

Katie Valentinebut I grew up and then was able to like determine what I felt like would be best leave it looks wise as I got older why would it have looked wor I don't think even if I had all the things I had done

Katie Valentineright now I I'm I'm taking back what I said I don't think I would have been more attractive at 18 with all of the Cosmetic procedures I've had now I don't no so so let's say it's 20 years

Andrew Wilsonold same exact cosmetic procedures what about your 20-year-old shelf would look worse

Katie ValentineI guess it's more of an appropriateness to me like I no no not appropriate not context none of that just two pictures 20-year-old you you you at the age you

Katie Valentineare right now or 34 same cosmetic enhancements why does 20-year-old you look worse I I I just don't I don't know I

Katie Valentinecan't I guess it's hard for me to see my 18-year-old self how I look now with the Cosmetic enhancement so I guess it's just hard

Katie Valentinelike um I don't know how to articulate what I'm trying to explain but I don't necessarily think if I did all the things I do now that I would look better

Katie Valentinewhen I was 18 at all I did all the things I do now you know only in the last few years so that wasn't until I was in my late 20s um that I started

Katie Valentinemaking a lot of cosmetic changes but I just I just that's me personally like I don't think that me with this size boobs and this size lips

Cenaand all the things that I do now would have looked good on me at 18 yeah but why not though I just think it would look ridiculous I think it's also

Cenabecause you grow like grow into your adult features like same like me at 18 I wouldn't do all of that but me at 20 24

Andrew WilsonI would do those because I look more mature because you're trying to capture a youthful appearance

Andrew Wilsonright big boobs don't make you like more youthful yeah well I mean do you associate Shaggy brast with old people or young people both no you don't

Andrew Wilsonassociate them with both you associate I've seen lots of young girls with s we associate perky breast with younger women everybody does everybody

Andrew WilsonAssociates that and here I can I can demonstrate it for you most women when they go out in public they wear push-up raas why how

Katie Valentinecome I guess to appear like they have pushed up boobs why do they want them to look like that why do they want them to look like that why do they not them to want they don't want bigger boobs to

Andrew Wilsonmake them look more youthful though they want bigger boots to more doesn't necessarily make them appear bigger makes them appear perkier higher right and so we associate that with youth if

Andrew Wilsonthat's not the case then why do you wear push-up R for I don't wear pushup BR I know but women when I'm talking about women not you as in you specifically but just women in general they wear them non-stop all the time why do you think that they use push-up FRS I think

Brian Atlasbecause especially when they're going to show cleavage what's what's the purpose I think we want Cena why are you coming at me for no just like I don't know I was just asking what you thought cuz cuz you've been

Cenakind of quiet so it's to it's to like show that you have bigger breasts not in general to show that it's perkier it's to make them look bigger that's what I think it's to make to meet the beauty

Brian Atlasstandards mhm said it's not to make them it's not to make them look perky huh no

Brian Atlasokay so a couple you mentioned diet and eating and that's going to make you know change stuff and certainly if you're a healthier weight that can definitely have an impact uh two questions on this

Andrew Wilsonthe first question if it was all about making him look just bigger why wouldn't you make him look bigger and saggier what there's padding in the bra

Katie Valentinethat like pushes it up and also fills bras which will push them down no yeah there are what yeah there are like how women how I

Katie Valentinedon't know what exactly you're referring to as far as a bra that pushes them down like the only thing I can think of that pushes down is you wear a strap over to hold them down or you there are yeah there

Andrew Wilsonare I don't look I don't know I'm not a cosmetic expert okay but my understanding is that these bras do exist but that does not seem to be what women opt for they seem to opt for the they don't in other words I don't see

Andrew Wilsoncosmetic enhancements on women where they're trying to make their boobs look saggy ever well you're saying they're pushing them down so then what are they doing how come how come if it's just about size they don't want them lifted

Katie Valentinethe big your boobs are like then you have more cleavage in whatever bra you wear like it it's to make them seem rounder and bigger that's why women wear push-up raas you don't wear push-up bras

Katie Valentineand you just heard from several of us that it is to make them appear bigger and rounder yes perkier in like that that's part of it but it is to make it

Andrew Wilsonlook bigger and rounder cosmetic all the Cosmetic enhancements seem to be on par with a youthful appearance not an older appearance not designed for a mature

Andrew Wilsonlook on women but designed for a youthful look on women I don't know is a BBL necessarily youthful I don't I don't even understand that phenomenon that's some that's some

Andrew Wilsonthat's the phenomenon it's a beauty standard that's some weird bizarre phenomenon that that uh that people get into there's all sorts of fads that happen like this uh inside of society that I don't actually understand uh bbls don't look good on anybody they've never

Andrew Wilsonlooked good on a single human being who's ever had one and they're never going to but that aside uh when I'm when I'm talking about when you're talking about things like boob jobs and this type of thing it seems like they definitely want them to be perkier not

Andrew Wilsonless perky it seems like getting the getting the appearance of sagginess out of the picture seems to be priority number one okay my point being is that BBL is

Katie Valentineto make you rounder and bigger just like push-up braws are to make you rounder and bigger and more voluptuous and that is a cosmetic procedure that is not to make you look more youthful you could

Katie Valentinesay Botox is to make you look more youthful you could say skin care facials are to make you look more youthful but not necessarily boob jobs or bbls or push-up raas they're not to make you

Andrew Wilsonlook more youthful you could see a woman are you could see a woman who's 55 years old and wom number one women's number one response for why it is that they get a boob job is because they feel like

Andrew Wilsontheir breasts are sagging no it's because they want bigger boobs I would because they want bigger might wait hang on hang on hang on that also happens I'm giving you the number one answer that

Andrew WilsonI'm looking at here this because they want them lifted or just bigger I had nothing when I got mine done and I wanted something yeah I understand but you guys are young right it's true that that now younger and

Andrew Wilsonyounger women are having them done that didn't used to be the case especially and even now it's still in the age bracket 30s when they're most commonly done that's the number one answer given but isn't that after children when

Andrew Wilsonthey're just flat yeah and what would we associate if you after children what happens with the breasts they get saggy and FL that's right they get so right

Andrew Wilsonexactly so you want them to look more youthful so you do what put stuff in it yeah you you perk them up right that's what that's what the goal of that is or at least it seems

Andrew Wilsonlike that that's the case to me I'm sure that there's women who also have small breasts who want to have larger ones I'm not disputing that I'm just saying that it seems that the number one reason is for the purpose of youthful appearance

Kylaat least if we associate perky breast and not saggy breast with youth which I think most people would I feel like it just depends on what you're you know getting them for like yeah older people

KylaI agree with Andrew you know to make him look less saggy and then younger people you know nowadays they get it to make them look bigger so I feel like it's goes both ways well women have always gotten them to look bigger too I'm just

Andrew Wilsongiving you in the of answers if we're looking at the respondents and surveys who say why did you have this done I'm just telling you what the number one one I'm not saying that enhancement and also by the way a big one for uh breast

Andrew Wilsonaugmentation surgery now is reduction in size that's a that's a massive thing that's that's been happening over the last 5 six seven years uh so you know there's there's that too I'm just I'm

Andrew Wilsonjust pointing out what the answers are when women are surveyed for why they want to do this most women don't get a reduction because they don't want to look youthful or it's normally not talking about a bre I'm not talking

Katie Valentineabout the reasons for breast reduction I'm talking about the reason for breast enhancement yeah but then you bring up breast reduction as if that's it Rel I'm I'm just trying the trend no no I'm just trying to tell you the trend of right

Katie Valentinenow there's a trend where younger and younger people are getting breast surgery that's true right but it's go the trend's going both ways for both enhancement and reduction but I was just trying to say that reduction is generally because of health issues or

Katie Valentinepain that you suffer your neck your shoulders your back I know just saying but a lot and the only women I know that have gotten reductions is because of that reason is that because they deal with pain from that or issues from it

Andrew Wilsonit's not because they decided they don't like them I'm not dis but I'm not disputing any of that it's like it's just it's just not I'm just trying to explain the trend that's all not trying to give you the reasoning for why they have reductions um I I haven't looked up

Andrew Wilsonall the answers for why they have redu C I would I would guess also there's a fear of breast cancer and many probably many other reasons that women would site for this uh but when I'm talking about enhancement or why most of them are getting boob jobs it seems that they

Andrew Wilsonwant to maintain the youthful appearance at least from my perspective and most cosmetic surgery is not designed to make you look older it's designed to make you look younger you could say a BBL perhaps

Andrew Wilsonisn't but a BBL seems like it's a fad cosmetic surgery not like uh there's some Timeless cosmetic surgeries like a nose job boob job I mean I could I could again say I don't think that

Katie Valentineum oh I lost my train of thought listening to you sorry go ahead no no no it was your turn I'm sorry I was done talking I I it just down the river of thoughts so okay no

Brian Atlasworries I uh Andrew what do you think would be the kind of if there if there was and I don't think it even if there is well there maybe is but it's certainly not as prominent or as

Brian Atlasfrequent what would be the equivalent male cope like balding like if guys started coping oh yeah women um no no no I I wear two pay for my friends I was

Brian Atlasgoing to say a hairline yeah women I wear a toay for my friends the less hair the less hair I have the more attractive women like is that the cope would that

Andrew Wilsonthe be the cope no it's like the bigger my beer belly the more attractive women find me I don't even I don't know if that matches on as close

Andrew Wilsonit could be penis size like oh yeah women love my three incher I mean height I think height would be it right so men get if if a man were to say that they were getting uh

Andrew Wilsonsurgery to increase their height and there are men who do that it's super dangerous but they do it um and they were to say I'm just doing that for my pals uh I I think we would say that that's uh that's Co we would be like bro

Brian Atlasyou're not getting your height increased because you're buddies you're getting your height increased because you want to be more pred to the opposite sex no I'm not saying I'm not saying that the comparative cope for the whole like I

Brian Atlaswear makeup for myself I do XYZ for the for the women I'm saying the cope about I'm going to be better looking when I'm older I think the comparative like what

Brian Atlasis the comparative cope there in so far as women's unwillingness to acknowledge that typically speaking they're going to be the most attractive and most

Andrew Wilsondesirable by men in their early 20s that's actually a really good question I'm sitting here racking my brain as many men have as I've talked to in

Andrew Wilsonvarious panels about these these topics they're just they just kind of CAU to it immediately they're like uh yeah of course I was a stud when I was 21 and now I'm you know 45 and I got a beer gut

Andrew Wilsonand blah blah blah right so they they seem to be they seem to just kind of be honest about it I don't know they I I haven't really heard much in the way of maybe some of them cope but I haven't heard much oh so I guess men when it comes to like

Brian Atlasthem aging I don't know if it's like totally similar though because I think there is differences between oh I'll have I guess I'll have more money that could be the big one I was about to say I'm sorry for like I'll be able to offset it with money I'll be able to offset my bad looks with money I'm sorry

Jasminefor like interjecting like that but I was going to say I think that's the only option unfortunately that's left for men I literally had a conversation the other

Jasmineday with one of um I was in an Uber and um this dude who had a whole company had everything and stuff was going down and he was very openly and honestly

Jasmineadmitting to like yeah and I know I'm like going to end up with like nobody by the time I'm like getting older so I'm just building a found age for myself I'm become super rich and I'm going to get

Andrew Wilsonmyself a young girl give her everything me you after after having heard you say that I can't actually say that that's cope because it seems like it's the opposite of cope so he's going okay long

Andrew Wilsonterm right I definitely know I'm not going to be more attractive I definitely know that so I'm going to have to hedge my bets properly with one thing that I can give to the opposite sex that they'll really like that sounds like the

Jasmineopposite of delusion to me but then the girls take advantage of that that's the problem and then we end up with girls that feel the entitlement of like this

Jasmineis why we have so many women that are like well yeah of course I'm supposed to be treated like this and given all of this yeah I think that I think that some men can be taken advantage of right but

Andrew Wilsonif the entire dating strategy that you have is I'm really ugly but if I'm rich I got a shot at good-looking women then basically the goal is to make yourself a gold mine for gold digger right yeah is

Jasminethat basically what you're doing yeah then that's straight up what I told him I'm like so you're basically going to look for a gold digger and he was like in and they're very like some dudes I've noticed I'm like it's kind of shocking I

Andrew Wilsonguess well to me at least I'm like they're like well yeah yeah I'm fine with that as long yeah I don't even know how that's taking advantage though if he's expecting it if he's like yeah I guess in my mind my options are you know

Jasminetaking it I I guess for somebody who views it conservatively and actually views it as like damn bro like you really going to just let somebody like a girl really just take advantage of you

Jasminethat way even though he's willingly like you said he's letting it like so is it really taking advantage at that point but I mean I mean I think that there's probably a lot of men who have a long-term St dating strategy based

Andrew Wilsonaround the fact that they think that when they're older and have many many more resources that they can be much more appealing to the types of women that they want and I don't even think that they're wrong so that seems like

Andrew Wilsonit's proactive and the opposite of delusion but rather being proactive so that um they can basically stay in the dating Market at an older age I do think that it's a bit delusional though to

Andrew Wilsonhear 20 21y old say that they think they'll be just as attractive when they're 45 or more attractive I think that that's wildly I mean I think that that's crazy I mean there granted there could be some who

Andrew Wilsonare I'm not going to dispute that but I mean the overwhelming vast majority of women are not going to be more attractive when they're 40 versus 20 that's that's just that's just insane I I don't know why anybody would ever

Kylabelieve that like even women don't believe it go ahead what were you going to say I don't think it matters how healthy you try to stay too cuz like um you know like my looking at my mom and

Kylagrandma bless our genetics you know we all look really young for our ages you know my mom looks super good for her age yeah you do you look super young when you said your age I was like no way

Kylareally yeah I um yeah I just that's the genetics that I have but even though you know if I am healthy at you know 10 years from now that doesn't mean I'm

Andrew Wilsongoing to look better you know compared to myself now you know even though I could be healthy I think that what happens is I think you have a good point here I think what happens is a lot of

Andrew Wilsonwomen hear this you're not going to be attractive at 45 yeah versus you're not going to be as attractive at 45 as when you were 25 but I think they just hear

Andrew Wilsonyou're not going to be attractive at 45 and it's like that's not what anybody's saying EXA there's tons and tons of 40 45 50y old women who are highly attractive it's just the comparison an

Andrew Wilsonage of to their 25-year-old self generally they're less attractive than that MH which makes sense it's youth right MH it's what every cosmetic industry

Andrew Wilsonpromises you they promise you a youthful look I've never seen the this will AG you quicker skin cream I have never never seen that marketing yet now going

Brian Atlasback to my questions here so uh I forgot [ __ ] I forgot one of them but um some of you mentioned dieting eating I

Brian Atlasguess the question is all else being equal so assuming that everything that you could have it either everything that you could have at 40 you could have at

Brian Atlas20 or nothing that you could have at 40 you also similarly can't have it at 20 do you think uh those of you who said like the

Brian Atlaswhole diet eating thing I think it was was it you and you both of you um

Brian Atlasbetter looking at 20 versus 40 all else being equal into the mic Skies um I don't I want to say maybe at

Jasmine40 I I kind of agree with what you said it kind of doesn't matter really um because it doesn't the health like like yeah even if you do take care of yourself like as it you never know how

Jasmineyou might end up like you're not going to make yourself look younger yeah exactly like I don't know exactly how I might end look in 40 years so I could look better than I do now in my 20s I'm

Amanda27 I could look better or I might just not I look wor okay um and before I get to that your answer I just want to make sure I understand the question all the

Amandaway so you're saying if we like if my 20-year-old self kept eating the same way all the way until I'm 34 and then 44 so not changing my

Brian Atlasdiet uh hold on hold on because she's trying to wiggle weasel out no I'm trying to understand the question I'm asking for clarity the the all the your

Brian Atlasstate of being in terms because you're you guys like to add [ __ ] on well when I'm 40 I'm going to be in the best shape of my life doubtful um I'm going to be

Brian Atlasthe most healthy I'll ever been or will be doubtful I will have I will know how to do my makeup orders of magnitude better than I did when I was younger

Brian AtlasI'll dress better I'll have botox I'll have plastic surgery I'll have all these interventions what I'm saying is any intervention that you could have at 40

Brian Atlasalso in this hypothetical would have been available to you at 20 in add or alternatively none of the interventions that you plan or could get at

Brian Atlas40 none of those are also in this hypothetical available retroactively at 20 all else being

Brian Atlasequal comparing how you look without makeup without anything at 20 your natural self at 20 and I'll even say this would I think

Brian Atlaseven be in favor towards the 40 but your body fat percentage Remains the Same your body composition Remains the

Brian AtlasSame everything Remains the Same are you better looking at 20 or 40

Amandapersonally I think I would be better looking at 40 only because I did not really feel like I grew into my woman's body until like

Amandamy late 20s what do you mean grew into your woman's body like I don't feel like my like hips really finished developing until I was 28 so I didn't feel curvy

Amandauntil I was 28 didn't feel curvy until 28 okay um so even no cosmetic procedures

Amandawhatsoever I like my body better at 28 than I did at 18 so I would say 40-year-old body is better than 18 because I didn't like

Brian Atlaswere you like anorexic at 20 or no no you were I was just more athletic so you you were more athletic than you are now

Brian Atlasin different ways yes I feel like I have a more feminine figure now than I did 18 okay and so let me ask you a question

Brian Atlasum do you think uh most men would choose 40 40-year-old U over 20-year-old U I think in this

Amandascenario I mean I can't say 40 cuz I'm not 40 but I think more men approach me at 34 than they did at

Brian Atlas18 really yes more when you say more men approach you like and are you out and about at similar rates

Amandaum not similar rates no cuz I'm not going out every weekend um wait do you have a kid or no kids no kids anybody here have kids okay um so you do you did

Brian Atlasyou go out more often when you were younger or more often now more often when I was younger and you you went to college and all that yes so just to be clear and you're 34

Brian Atlasright or yeah 34 so you were in college pre dating apps pre- social media um no well there's like Facebook you know like early early Facebook yeah that's how old

Brian AtlasI am I mean this sounds I'm 30 I'm 35 I'm your guys's

Brian Atlasage I find it very hard to believe I mean it could be look there's um the rate at which men are approaching

Brian Atlaswomen in public now compared to I'm assuming 2008 to 201 uh 2011 2012 when you would have been in

Brian Atlascollege most people have much more opportunity to meet people in college

Brian Atlasthat's is this is this are you lying I mean are you just lying no I'm giving you my opinion you ask me if I feel like I'm approached more you get approach

Brian Atlasmore now at 34 after me too after dating apps after social media were like back then if you were a dude and you wanted a

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