Psycho Troll ASSAULTS Nick?! KICKED OUT! Single Mom Went On 30 Dates In 30 Days?! | Dating Talk #159

Date: 2024-05-08

Duration: 6h 59m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlissa (DT159)>

MMissy (DT159)>

DDiana (DT159)>

BBlasie (DT159)>

NNatalia (DT159)>

AAlexy (DT159)>

MMason Gregoire >

MMadison (DT164)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_04Natalia(guest)

SPEAKER_05Blasie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Macy(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Mason(guest)

SPEAKER_11Missy(guest)

SPEAKER_12Alexy(guest)

SPEAKER_13Diana(guest)

SPEAKER_14Alissa(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteDiana reveals she was married at 17 for 14 years with 5 children: "I got married at 17, I was married for 14 years, I have five kids." Gives context for her intentional dating approach and 30-dates story.

QuoteDiana reveals she went on ~30 first dates in one month: "you went on 30 dates in a one month period" confirmed by Diana. Brian probes: how with 5 kids? Diana: coffee/lunch dates, controlled schedule as entrepreneur.

QuoteMason reveals he is a Christian virgin waiting for marriage. Brian acts as "legal counsel." Mason: "I'm a really devout Christian so that's really important to me." Partner requirements: Christian, virgin preferred, body count <5. June 25 AF ship date.

QuoteMissy accepts Brian's 4.5 rating with equanimity: "I rated myself the same thing so it doesn't hurt my feelings." Discussed her lost weight and ongoing body improvement since sobriety.

OtherGUEST REMOVED: Blasie removed from show after repeated sunglasses violation and trolling. During removal she grabbed camera operator Nick's phone, appeared to attempt a punch, and broke his necklace. Mason called out: "keep your hands off him!" Brian: "take take your seat — that was nuts." Nick confirmed he was okay.

ControversyBrian tells Blasie to leave calmly: "kindly just leave, all right — didn't really want to stay here for that long." Blasie calls all guests liars for denying the pre-show sunglasses agreement. All other guests confirm the agreement.

QuoteMissy's body count of ~60 disclosed: Brian reads from pre-show notes "you said around 60." Missy confirms "around 60, I don't know exact number." Clarifies: 95% were 1-2x encounters and 95% of sex outside relationships occurred under the influence of alcohol. Two partners in last 6 years since getting sober.

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Brian introduces panel of 8 guests. Each states name, age, location, occupation. Alissa: 18, UCSB psychology. Missy: 36, Kingston Ontario, critical care. Diana: 35, St. Pete FL, healthcare entrepreneur, turning 36 Thursday. Blasie: 22, South Side Chicago, NEET, Twitter personality, flew private. Macy: 19, UCSB film/media, Bay Area. Natalia: 18, UCSB sociology, San Diego. Alexy: 25, destination wedding videographer, ~70 weddings. Mason: 28, mechanical engineer, Air Force.

Relationship statuses round

Brian asks each guest for relationship status, time single, and longest relationship. Alissa: single 1.5yr. Missy: single 8yr, sobriety/addiction backstory. Diana: new 2mo relationship (no title), single 5yr before, married 14yr, 5 kids. Blasie: "complicated" then admits pilot boyfriend. Macy: never had relationship, 4mo talking stage. Natalia: never had relationship. Alexy: 1.5yr relationship (longest). Mason: single, virgin, AF prep.

Diana: 30 dates in 30 days disclosure

Diana reveals she went on ~30 first dates in one month. Brian probes logistics (5 kids, entrepreneur). Coffee/lunch dates, sometimes Dutch, sometimes man paid. Dating 2-3 men simultaneously until becoming exclusive. "Fail fast" approach to filtering matches.

Makeup and authenticity debate

Brian challenges whether women wearing makeup is deceptive. Comparison to bald men wearing hats. Missy admits filters on photos. Diana: post some authentic photos alongside best-self. Mason compares it to lying about profession on dating apps.

Mason virginity and partner requirements

Mason reveals he is a devout Christian virgin waiting for marriage. Brian acts as "legal counsel." Requirements: Christian, prefers virgin but <5 body count acceptable. Biblical family order (Christ/husband/wife/children). Air Force Special Warfare ship date June 25. Gets many DMs from women; Brian jokes about vetting them.

Housewife vs. career debate

Brian asks: would you prefer to be college educated and work, or be a housewife? Alissa: finish education, would consider housewife if husband provides. Extended debate on dependency, planning for divorce, student loans, and finishing degrees before starting a family.

Police vs. critical care nursing danger comparison

Diana defends critical care nursing as dangerous. Mason argues police face more lethal-force scenarios. Debate on whether the jobs are comparable in risk. Missy as ICU nurse joins discussion.

Self-ratings round (1-10 scale)

Brian asks each guest to rate own looks 1-10 (no 7 rule was not enforced). Ratings: Alissa 6, Missy 5 (Brian: 4.5), Blasie 6, Macy 7, Alexy 7-7.5, Mason 5, Natalia declined. Extended discussion on honest self-assessment, social media overinflation, Missy's body image recovery through sobriety.

Beauty standards / body fat image comparison

Brian shows superhero and athlete photos comparing male and female body ideals and typical body fat standards. Debate on which gender faces harder-to-attain physical standards. Tim Chalamet referenced as example of thin male ideal.

Blasie removal and assault on Nick

Brian asks Blasie to leave after repeated sunglasses violation and trolling throughout episode. Nick begins recording per show policy. Blasie grabs Nick's phone, appears to attempt punch, breaks his necklace in struggle. Mason and Missy react loudly. Blasie removed. Nick is uninjured. Brian replaces necklace (~$20). Madison joins table as replacement.

Post-removal debrief and Madison joins

Brian describes what happened for viewers. Nick confirms he is okay. Panel reflects on Blasie trolling pattern. Brian plays pre-show video showing Nick's earlier sunglasses negotiation. Madison takes Blasie's seat.

Feminism discussion

Brian asks each guest if they identify as feminist. Missy: no longer (shifted via Jordan Peterson). Diana: traditional/first-wave feminist (equity vs. equality distinction). Alexy: gender roles, traditional submission in partnership. Natalia, Alissa, Macy: qualified agreement with equality, skeptical of modern feminism's direction.

Bumble swiping segment

Missy's Bumble profile reviewed on air. Panel swipes on male profiles. Discussion of age ranges, photo quality, and swipe selectivity.

Body count round

Brian asks each guest their body count. Missy: ~60 (confirmed from pre-show notes; 95% under alcohol, 2 people in last 6 years). Alissa: not above double digits. Diana: declines. Macy: ~2. Others decline. Discussion on whether men should care.

Chaos/TTS segment and show close

TTS at $20 threshold. Audience reacts to body count. Final thoughts. Mason congratulated. Brian cannot address all pre-show notes for Missy/Diana. Show ends with Twitch raid.

Transcript

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Alexysimilar and I don't remember you giving her such backlash I always I always the girl that was like I didn't date until I was 20 and then she went on a date she was like married her number 14 or something like that I there was actually

Production StaffBrian get listen like I really like you as a person I'm not attacking you like I I don't remember far how far in advance would you plan these dates say with like for the whole entire month just day by day

Dianaor absolutely I mean you're matching you're getting to know somebody you're like okay let's meet like I'm not the person that's also going to create like a textationship because like I said I had I started learning really quickly

Dianasomeone's going to present a certain way electronically and they're going to be probably very different and it took took me a while to hack the system and figure out and filter out how many how many total First Dates do you think you've

Brian Atlasgone on in the past you said this started I don't know I I I don't know but I met people out on the you gone over on over 100 first dates in the does it matter I'm does it matter because I

Dianafound someone that actually sees me for who I am I know exactly what I want and when I identified him we locked it in monogamously so doesn't even matter what the journey was how many first do you

Dianathink you went on I don't know and I'm honestly not going to tell you why because because all you're doing is weaponizing it and making me look like I'm this no one is trying to do that

Dianaattention hungry person and I'm less of a value woman just because I went on multiple dates no but that's what's being alluded you said yourself I did ask you at one point I asked you if you

Missythought that was a healthy pattern and you said no and yet you're defending it right now and so I'm telling you I am defending it because everyone goes through their own healing J and I I it's

Diananot our part listen everyone goes through their own heal dating hundreds until you've been in an actually abusive controlling relationship and have not had any control over your life you

Missyreally have no I'm going to tell you right now that you do not know my past but I'm telling you I have slept with a lot of people I have a pretty significant past and I am able to sit here and say it was unhealthy it was

Missywrong I will not defend it I wish I didn't do it I wish I could have done things differently and it was not traditional and I'm just saying if you are wanting to say you're traditional and you it's you recognize it's not healthy we

Missyshouldn't be perpetuating that this is somehow worthy of like a chivalrous man who's going to be expecting you to be it's not ladylike it's not traditional and I'm just saying we're not attacking you we're attacking the ideology let me let me jump in really quick let me jump

Brian Atlasin really quick I'm going to ask you guys a question here uh do you want a long-term relationship do I want one do you want one um yes do you want a long-term relationship yeah do you want

Brian Atlaslongterm relationship okay my question to you is let's say you went on went on a date with a guy and your goal you're not just trying to him it's not like a casual hookup you're like hey I

Brian Atlaswant a long-term relationship that's your goal this guy tells you by the way I have 30 40 50 more dates lined up I

Brian Atlashave a date tonight I have a date I have dates with other women all this week do you think if you were desirous of a long-term relationship that this would be the type of man that you ought to

Brian Atlaspursue no no no because I don't think I'm getting a fair chance at that point that's a good it's a good point because you're you're he's not going to give you

Dianaa fair chance um so I mean if you're desirous of a long-term relationship it's just not a good look I don't care about the look it really doesn't impact me at all because I know

Alexywho I am as a person and I know that my person and my match is going to identify who I am and vice versa so like I've never been on dating apps or anything

Alexybefore by a lot of friends that have and you can you can easily talk to go on a virtual first date with 30 people like really quickly I would assume right by just messaging them like do you view

Dianathat differently than meeting them in person like what's your perspective on that cuz I feel like you can with someone and be like hey what's up and be like having and that actually wasn't even a function because I got on the

Dianadating scene a month before the pandemic hit I've literally seen the evolution of the apps so they didn't always I'm pretty sure they always had no they did not have picture function they did not have video camera that was an evolution

Brian Atlasthat happened but like late in 2020 but like couldn't you just be like texting 30 people easily I would go like that I'll just give you my I'll just give you my perspective on this uh maybe I don't

Brian Atlasmove the same way as a lot of guys like if I'm interested in a woman that's who I'm pursuing and I'm going to get bring it as far as I can and if it doesn't work out with her then huh

Brian Atlasand hope it sticks right if it doesn't work out with her then I'll start entertaining other options but I don't do this thing of okay I'm just going to talk to like 10 chicks three of them keep them on the the back burner

Brian Atlasfor three months and then the one I like the most maybe I'll give her see how you're painting that picture like that's not what I did and that's what you're making it sound like I'm just talking not even saying that's what you did I'm just talking about myself but perhaps

Dianayou weren't to that degree but you said you were dating or going on dates with multiple I was going on first dates to meet that's literally the same thing thank you for reer the same

DianaRel it's a date did any of these men you went on second dates with third dates with and that wasn't like the beginning phases and I kid you not all of them

Dianawere like First Dates like nope nope no nope NOP doesn't matter learning what I what I wanted and my question to you is like in life when you were younger and were like out on the dating scene and

Brian Atlasstuff did you have any restrictions or were you able to like meet as many women or young ladies as you kind of wanted to and get to know them I mean certainly there's been periods and I've had Peri hold on let me finish there's been periods when I I was on the dating apps

Brian Atlasbut I mean I was fairly intentional like if I'm not I have no interest in sleeping with a girl once if I want to get with a girl there's going to be there's going to be continuity look it's certainly possible that she doesn't want to continue seeing me although that's

Brian Atlasrelatively rare uh but yes there's absolutely going to be continuity so I don't want to just a girl once and never talk to her again to me that's pointless it's a waste of time I'm very like I'm I'm a busy person I don't have

Dianatime to be just oh let me just a girl once and then put in all the effort and never talk to her doesn't interest me but and that's not what I'm even like propagating or talking about I'm talking about meeting people yeah but I don't

Brian Atlaseven have I don't have an interest I don't have an interest and if I was on a I would probably screen it out to begin with you know if I'm meeting a girl and she's like I this actually happened to me when I was on dating apps and look I

Brian Atlasknow this is how people move on dating apps I was on a date with a girl and uh you know I'm trying to remember the exact details but I was on a date with her she told me she just downloaded hinge it was a hinge date and I think she'd had it for three days she told me

Brian AtlasI'd only been on the app for three days it's my first date with her I think it was a Saturday she tells me on the date credit to her I guess so I could disqualify her immediately she told me by the way you know cuz we were just talking oh so how's your experience been

Brian Atlason the dating apps blah blah that's how we got to it she tells me oh yeah I've already been on two dates and then I have three dates three other dates planned for this weekend and then a couple other dates planned I was like I mean I you know I continued the conversation with her for a bit but then

DianaI was yeah and that's different posture like how disrespectful can it possibly be for you to be like oh I've been on a couple of dates and I also have a few dates after you like I give that person

Dianamy attention but you don't know what just because I'm not going what you're doing she just asked me are you are you pre-planning 30 different dates like that no I'm connecting with someone I'm talking to

Missythem now I want to meet them in person see if they're a good match no they're not I move on to the next I day I mean that sounds like pretty like you're setting up a roster and honestly like

MissyI'll be honest like when I'm on a dating app I have maybe a few conversations with people they fizzle out whatever but I'm not like setting up I I'm not trying to judge you I'm just saying like well that's the way you choose to do life and

Brian Atlasthen I choose to do life my way it's a TR Liv if I'm going to give a prescription here my advice to men would be you ought only date women who have

Production Staffwho are immediately giving you their undivided romantic and sexual attention I have a question for you go ahe so if that girl were to want to just pursue

Production Staffyou after that first date in Cancer all the rest of her dates would you still consider her question MH or would you still disqualify her right it it depends a little bit it's still not I mean if she's like okay I

Brian Atlasreally like Brian I'm going to cut off everybody else then yeah that's good I give I give her some leeway but it's still like not the most ideal way to be moving in my in my view yeah no I agree I don't because I think okay well what

Brian Atlasabout the past has she been sexually involved recently with anybody else like I don't want to date a girl who just like I'm going on a first day with you and you hooked up with a guy the night before I don't want to date you yeah that totally makes sense and I like

Production Staffdon't agree with what you did but I would assume that if you wanted to pursue one of the guys that you went on a date with you would cancel other yeah you would cancel the other day and to

Brian Atlasthat guy I don't know I for me personally like I'm pretty straightforward I don't like to play games I'm just going to tell a girl I like you like it's going to be a

Brian Atlasnot what do I say wrecking ball no it's just going to be like I'm not going to play a game where we're like for 3 months we're in a situationship and like you're other dudes I'm up I'm other I was about to say I'm

DianaI'm sleeping with other girls like I'm going to be very intentional I like you if I sleep with you I want to continue seeing you I agree with that posture and I know that modern dating for the most part handles it the way you

Dianajust said situationships 3 months non-exclusive sleeping around whatever and then that's what gets you into a pickle quick incredibly dissatisfied

Dianawith this whole situationship but I would not use that as a blanket to like meeting people I fully expect and like you know well yeah so sure people should meet people and maybe you're not like

Missysleeping with multiple people but I would still disqualify a girl who's like entertaining that many men because you're also like to some degree you are you are probably subconsciously comparing them to each other in a sense you're like well this date went like

Missythis with this guy and then that date goes like this with that guy and like you can't be satisfied because like you're just constantly moving on to the next to the next to the next and maybe there would have been somebody that would have been worthy but you just were so busy setting up all these dates that

Masonyou know you kind of didn't even give anybody maybe a VI do it just it screams like I I need romantic attention but I do not want to form connections with people because I'm scared of being hurt

Dianawell I have a question a scenario right okay if you're sitting at a dinner table and you have a guest and this guest has had consistent meals and eaten wellfed

Dianawell raised whatever how do you expect that they're going to eat their food are they going to use their Forks are they going to properly right properly like normally so then if you're

Dianaat a dinner table with someone that has been lost in the woods without any food starved to the point of almost death and you've invited them to dinner after 30

Dianadays of not eating how are they going to eat listen I how they eat in front of you I understand your question like a pig with their hands with their like they're in Survival Mode sure okay so we

Missycan't just throw these judgments on people like I'm speaking for all other domestic violence TW today I said that listen we do need to have compassion and empathy for people because not

Missyeverybody's operating under the same level of uh their faculties due to whatever they've been through blah blah blah but it does not absolve us of personal responsibility and we have okay

Masonso you're in in your example the person who comes starving for a very long time and gets food there's no moral uh like it's not morally wrong to like start

Masonshoveling food down because you're hungry but it is morally it's wrong to lead these guys on you're not leading them on if you've gone on one date and

Dianayou've said I'm not interested thank you wrong and morally correct it's morally wrong to have multiple men on a roster and to just keep them there hanging for

Mason3 months telling me that you just that day you just randomly swiped on a random guy matched with them said hey let's meet up in like a couple hours like no

Dianabut a couple of days prior has nobody ever matched on an app and had some many guys planning out your week dependent upon no I was planning out my

Masonweek don't put words in my mouth have to in order to meet 30 guys in a month you have to have some kind of kids and you have

Brian Atlasatically impossible I gave a okay can I ask a question one thing quick so as somebody who used to be on the dating apps been off them for a

Brian Atlaswhile uh at least from the guy perspective maybe it's it's could be different from from women if you were a bit more making yourself a bit more available from my perspective it's very

Brian Atlasdifficult to get a woman on a date same day that you match them even you even if you ask for the date let's say you don't ma um you match with them on Thursday

Dianayou're typically going to have to plan the date out a couple days most people are not available dinner dates and longer dates yes agreed but a quick coffee date in downtown wherever you are

Missydoesn't take much planning if you have a flexible schedule which I have you have to be like hey how are you are you a sane person are you a you have conversations with these people I would said that obviously I would argue most

Brian Atlasof the dates that I've been on from from dating apps was not like spontaneous let's meet today it's maybe happened a couple times the vast majority of them were uh okay it's a it's currently

DianaMonday uh what are you doing Thursday what are you doing Friday are you like we plan it days in advance and that's the difference between being single and not having children and being single and actually having to

Brian Atlaslike time around whenever you don't have K you have even more plan around yeah you could I feel like if you have kids You' have to plan it even more you probably have less dates especially you got arrange anyway we are going to move

Brian Atlason we do got to move on let me read a couple chats we have to oh wait did this did this one the real question is uh I'm going to have Alyssa read the

Brian Atlasone that's about to come up while we do that guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one uh twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one and we have uh oh we got two coming in

Brian Atlasright now hold on guys it's coming in just a moment any second now any second now it's going to come in I feel it's coming there it is hey go ahead Alyssa

Alissaoh boy would you rather be in the woods with a trans man who by definition is a man or a trans woman who by definition

Brian Atlasis a woman with a beard and her junk hanging out this is wow okay just one or one or two I guess oh Lord which one are we answering that yeah sure I'm confused

Alissaby that question even just just say one or two the first or the second I don't even remember what trans man or trans by Def trans man or trans woman I have no preference I don't I'll say it quick but

MissyI don't agree with the definition part and I don't want someone's junk hanging out so I don't I I don't know I'd off myself no answer transom yeah also

Alissaanother preference uh no comment whoever is biologically a man okay but trans woman with her junk hanging out as a penis right Alissa can you read this one

Alissayeah I thought you had therapy for this so why are you trying so too hard to cope with your decision you know was unhealthy by the way you hopefully have

Alissasomeone tell you to slow down and chew your food or you'll

Brian Atlaschoke can we move on well put Nickelodeon okay we're GNA move on from that I'm finally going to get into some of my pre-show notes here so starting with Alysa you said you wanted to talk

Alissaabout cheating so have you been cheated on or um I have been cheated on yeah was that by your you said you were in an 18-month relationship is it that one yeah he I don't know if I would consider

Alissait cheating because I never like caught him in the act of like doing anything with her but the thing the big thing was that he would like constantly go to the gym with this girl and I didn't know

Alissawhat was going on so I just like decided to confront him about it and once I confronted him about it I like caught him picking her up from like another place like some someone else like one of

Alissamy friends had seen him do that so then that like kind of confirmed the fact that he was like hanging out with her without me knowing especially because we were like supposed to hang out later that day were you in a

Brian Atlaslong-distance relationship with him no we were living in the same city at the time sorry you said something about controlling your boyfriend's following what does that mean like following on Instagram yeah yeah we were talking

Alissaabout whether or not like that should be allowed I personally don't think that we should have control over it but Natalia was talking about it like thanks I said

Nataliaum I personally wouldn't want my boyfriend following all these girls I I just wouldn't and um I would want him only not like he could follow like a maybe a childhood friend or his mom his

Alissasister blah blah blah like IG models like that kind of yeah absolutely not if I see summer on his following list want him following like model but I wouldn't be against him following like

Brian Atlashis friends like that are girls like female friends yeah okay so I mean uh I'm trying to think here uh I mean me personally I don't follow anyone on Instagram um even on my personal page

Brian Atlaswell I follow my own whatever page and then whatever page only follows me but um I think it's I don't think women are wrong for

Brian Atlasfeeling that way but I think it's it's a massive L for a dude to be following girls like random hot chicks that's just we it's an

Brian AtlasL not even from the frame of girls don't like it it's just an L in general like why are you following like you're cuming over these

Brian Atlaslike random hot chicks never talk to you that would never give you a shot you're oh you're so beautiful it's like it's like embarrassing to see a guy in the

Alissacomments of like a supermodel who's never going to notice like why are you even doing let me give you the the mail corresponding thing on this so if I just say if I were to agree with you that

Brian Atlasit's a bad look for men to be like following these IG models or you know whatever it is liking their photos um would you guys be willing to concede that if you're dating a guy it's not a

Brian Atlasgood look for you to be posting immodest photos like bikini photos in general it's just like if your boyfriend objected to you posting I have a bikini photo up right now and I would still keep it well but so here's the

Brian Atlasthing right if you don't if you wouldn't like your guy liking those photos and following those women that post those kind of uh

Brian Atlasphotos I think he's ju he's just as righteous in not wanting you to have revealing and modest photos on your Instagram you're doing the thing that

Missyyou don't want him to be looking at so if he objected it I think I would take it but but men are looking at you so that's the problem is like honestly I'm

Missysure some of my photos are IM modest but honestly if I was dating somebody who uh had a problem with it I would totally take that into consideration because I value his input and I wouldn't want him to feel uncomfortable all right and then the

Alissaother thing what is the two man's thing I think both two of you oh yeah we wrote These together like what is the two man's thing we were basically talking about it and how it's like kind of like

Nataliaa fun exciting like thing to do but like some people think it's just weird it's kind of like how are we talk how are we and when we're like this we're like going more into like the college

Natalialifestyle and wait but so explain what is two man a okay go ahead two two man yeah okay two man is like when two guys like their friends get two girls and

Nataliathey hang out but the the like plan is to hook up at the end of the day oh so it's not just like let's go bullying and that's it no a two man is like we go bullying like a double date kind of a

Brian Atlasdouble date by the end the happy ending yeah that's that's a do man yeah double date uh wait so you guys have gone have you guys no I haven't no two men's but they're the guys are so okay just to be

Brian Atlasjust so I understandig thing so the guys will like hit you up and be like instead of just being like hey do you want to hang out they'll be like hey do you have a cute girl for me and my friend basically you know what's funny people

Macyeven make like on dating account or dating what are they dating apps they'll make like Twan profiles Rel like we're looking for a third I see what you're talking and then

Brian Atlaslike I've seen girls that too they'll be like hey it's me Vanessa and Becky for and they're looking for yeah I don't know that's kind of weird I think it's kind of it's and it's like it's already

Brian Atlashard enough like just making a connection just oneon-one but then like to involve other people's energy let's say let's say you have a connection with the guy but then your girlfriend isn't

Alissadigging the other dude it's just awkward well if you agree to go to always like oh my God like I had to take one for the team take the grenade

MasonI think the young people crave drama and it just it put inject so much drama also I feel like comp nobody's like going on double

Alissadates here like it's purely hookup culture which is why like a two man is like a double date but it's like the best we could get if that makes sense sad as bad as it sounded you wanted to

Brian Atlasuh what's the thing on splitting the bill on dates what were your thoughts on that oh we were also talking about that we think that that's like wrong like I wouldn't split the bill the man should pay I think I think the man should P the

Alissaman should pay hold on wait but on the first date on the first date for sure like forward like yeah I I would offer but on the first date if you ask me to

Alexysplit it I'm going to be like okay I was talking about this with my boyfriend's sister and I was like what how do you feel about this and she had a really good point she's like I feel like whoever initiates is the one that needs to to pay so whether that's the girl or

Missythe boy and I was like oh that's actually really fair because you're like hey I want to get to know you I want to take you out my treat but how often does the woman actually initiate the date because it's mostly the man who initiates asking someone out and women

Missyexpect the man to initiate nine times out of 10 I think girls initiate a lot more these days than normal but but maybe by a small degree but you would probably prefer a man be the one to say

Missyhey I really like you I'd like to take you out you would prefer that so so the whole point is that like the splitting the bill thing like you're expecting a man to pay but he's the one who's always

Alissaasking you out so it's always going to be him yeah even if I were to ask a guy out on a date if it went really well I would expect him to end up paying for it

Missyyeah even if it went really well even if she asked to go even if she asked if you asked you would expect him okay yeah yeah if it went well I would expect what if a date goes badly do you still expect

Alexyhim to pay yeah yes I still think I think initiator I I still like that I stand by that I think that's yeah that's let me ask you guys a question so the man um

Brian AtlasH okay so the man should pay on the first day right women [Music] should I'm trying to think what would be the corresponding thing here if men should do it's it's always interesting

Brian Atlaslike there's never any push back if a woman says men should do ex traditional gender role but if a man says women should do like for example women should

Brian Atlasthis isn't my view but I'm going to give you this as an example women should oh my God I'm going to get clipped I don't know if I should say say it say it say it okay it's going to

Production Staffget Co saying like be properly single or no like I mean I could the the more the more extreme one would be like women should be virgins I was going to say disclose your body count or something

Brian Atlaslike that but that's I mean let me give something a bit less extreme uh women should should be in the kitchen is that sexist no or women should dress up nicely with heels and

Nataliawhatever for a day I think that's like more of like the wom are do that like I've been on a day I'm not going to pull up in heels in a dress I pulled up in a casual clothing and he by

Missythe way that's not don't clip me that's not this is different a lot of men these days would prefer a woman just to dress like more modestly rather than like flat flashy and and all done up and everything um maybe it's not true for everyone but

Brian Atlasfrom what I'm seeing it seems like more men are leaning that way but yeah it's also not equivalent cuz like women aren't losing anything to put on a dress wait I have a question for you so do you know any girls that like they're kind of doing the hookup thing where they'll

Brian Atlaslike they got a roster you know any girls like that you know any girls like that know any girls like that do you think that the man should still pay like let's say he's taking a girl on the first date but she like hooked up with a guy it's not like he knows though but

Brian Atlasyou're not saying hey by the way I hooked up with this guy before you I feel like if you're in that situation like he asked her on the date yeah I feel like if so so just to be clear the guy should be shivel Rous traditional pay for the first date still pay for the

Missyfirst date even though she's another guy and even if it go bad another girl is she supposed to tell what if he's not though what if he wants you know what if he's not the culture keep in mind when I'm like they there's

Dianalike an automatic like they're sleeping with everybody so it doesn't matter what I do but that's we go to UCB

Brian Atlasthere's there's no scenario there's no scenario where I'm going to pay I'm not even going on a DAT with her I'm not going on a DAT I don't want anything if a girl's sleeping with another guy I don't want anything to do with her I

Alexydon't I don't even want to her once how are you going to know I don't want to kiss her I don't want what do you do to screen that before going on a first date I mean hopefully are you are you

Missyseeing other people right now m tell the truth if you're led by your values and you try to find somebody who seems like they're I know you don't know them at first but try to find someone who seems like they're more aligned with your values then hopefully you can trust

Masona little bit that they're telling you the truth and you ask them important questions generally yeah someone who's in their dating profile is going to highlight all the things that are important not nothing that's like

Masonsuperficial they're not going on a bunch of dates like one after another um yeah they they're not pushing all of this

Masonstuff all of the this stuff that signals a modern dating lifestyle someone who sleeps around a lot um yeah those things kind of clue you in wait so going back

Brian Atlasto you so your men should pay for first AIDS right yeah yeah going around the table on this actually men should pay for first AIDS if they initiate yeah yeah if they ask then yeah yes I've paid

Dianafor plenty of First Dates should men pay though do you prefer them to pay um I leave it up to them I'm I I will offer and then if they insist then I'll thank them because it's a kind gesture but I'm

Missynot going to like lead with that expectation I would prefer it but I it really depends on how the date goes I don't want a guy to pay if I'm not into it and you said yes okay so so that kind

Brian Atlasof means that you guys buy into traditional gender roles if you think men should pay for the first date right yes so but so why is it okay for women to say men should pay for first AIDS we can also say men should protect

Brian Atlaswomen men and you know we already talked about the bullet thing men should sacrifice their life for women but it's not okay for men to say women should dress modestly I think it's okay for men to say that I never said it wasn't okay men can say well I'd argue most women be

Dianalike you shouldn't be you shouldn't control what I wear I think you have a a pretty cons I don't I wouldn't call us like conservative but like a lot more of a levelheaded group in the room than

Brian Atlasmaybe you typically have you have a bikini photo on your Instagram right I do okay so if if we were dating and I was like actually you know the the gangster move for you would be like I

Brian Atlasdon't even have to tell you you just take that down you just get it yeah like for example you don't want to tell a guy to have to behave in the ways you want him to behave you want him to just do it

Masonautomatically right you w have to teach a guy no no no no you're no no no Edgar yeah as a guy that would be the biggest turn in the world it does not take that

Masonmuch effort to make a man fall for you it's literally yeah doing stuff like that respect that's like respecting me but if I was like Hey I want you to take that photo down would you do it if you

Nataliacame to me and like Express a concern about it i' like all right you know what like begrudgingly take it down no I wouldn't grally take it down I mean a post is a post like all right uh and then what about okay would it would it

Nataliabe okay for a man to say women should cook for men um my dad's like that and I always tell him off on it with my mom you tell him off yeah I tell him off I said like once he tried to make me like serve my

Nataliabrother I said no he could get up and do it himself I'm not going to serve him and I'm not going to cook for a man that says woman needs to cook for him like if I do it kindheartedly and I want to do it for him because he's a good man I'll do it but I'm not going to do it just

Brian Atlascuz he's a man I think that well but but but why then should a man pay for a first date just because he's a man and you're a woman it's just the way I feel it's how you feel that's just the way I

Brian Atlasfeel it's a okay so so you're fine with the statement men should pay for first dates but you're not fine with the statement for dat pay for it hold on women should cook for men you're not

Nataliafine with that statement no why because I've seen the way like my mom like she's so submissive and and it annoys me I'm not going to do that wait it it annoys you that your mom is submissive in that

Missyway that she will like immediately get up serve a place does she doing does she do it happily yeah is she happy yeah she probably is like I have a stepmom who it is

Natalialet me answer her life her background go ahead go ahead can you ask it again I like lost my because your mom happy with that arrangement she happy yeah she happy with the

Production Staffarrangement to each their own I don't she is you know yeah she like does she nag about the things that your father she does okay so she's not happy

Nataliashe happy with him but that part like you know I well when I'm talking about I'm talking about like in his Hispanic perspective like expected a man is like wait question does your mom is she uh like work at all or is she stay at home she stay at home and your your father

Brian Atlasthey're still married right they're still married uh your father he's the sole bread winner of the household yeah um is he can do you mind saying what he does for work uh he's a manager manager

Brian Atlasokay is he successful or doing well taking care he provides for I have five siblings he's provided for us okay so but she doesn't like it when he says hey can you cook for me but

Nataliashe's not complaining but she's not complaining about that um it's more of me complaining about it but I've seen because I've seen that like try to get reinforced onto me if your father

Brian Atlasdecided do you have siblings five five siblings and so bread winner right one one income if your father was like well I just don't feel like going to work

Brian Atlasanymore would you question that decision absolutely cuz he's not the man to do that so but if it's his role to be the provider and go to work wouldn't it be

Brian Atlasyour mom's role to manage the household yeah how many is he work how much hours a week do you think he works 50 yeah does he have two jobs no just

Brian Atlasone just one job works Monday through Friday yeah well does he full-time he works fulltime okay so just to be

Brian Atlasclear you have no objections to him being uh a slave to the labor market but you do

Brian Atlasobject to your mother cooking for her family I never said that or you okay you object to

Brian Atlasshe stop okay so you object to you object to the expectation that your father has on your mother his wife

Nataliato cook to the extremity that he does it yes how does he is he eating multiple Dinn at night it has to be done if it's not done by the time he's off of work he

Nataliagets annoyed um she's worried like if we're out doing something it's oh I have to be home in time to cook for your dad so I just wouldn't want that type of and well and cook for the family too right

Brian Atlascook for the family too y okay so would you oh what just one last thing one last thing okay so do you think that do you think that if your father stopped working do you think that your

Brian Atlasmother his wife would find that annoying she would find a job I she would you don't think they would cause relationship problems if he just decided to not do his role he had a

Missyknee problem and she was immediately like about to start working so okay but if he just said H you know I just don't really feel like working anymore what that's different like a health issue yeah yeah sort different

DianaHealth reason it's like a health reason versus like a character flaw yeah well character flaw then yeah she didn't never say that her mom was like super unhappy with the

Nataliaarrang I just said that I don't want she doesn't want that forced on her the man to be a traditional it's pay for one date I'm not asking for a hand in

Masonmarriage pay for a date I'm I'm what 2019 I'm 19 about well so it's like you're trying to we going a movie day I'm not asking for a and choosing the

Masonthe the traditional man treatment that you want I feel like so like it you you kind of have you're the man who is going to be a

Masontraditional guy who is going to want to pay for a first date is also going to ask of you those traditional things that man will men will want and I feel like this goes more off of my previous answer

Masonon like the wanting a family and a marriage and everything over a career and education so that should just like show you might be I'm just saying like if if you're not looking for the traditional relationship

Masonlike not saying like you don't want a man but you're not looking for a man who's going to be a leader who's asking you to submit to him his leadership you're not looking for that I never said that oh so you are looking for that I I

Masonnever said that either I just said I don't well okay so from all of the conversation that we've had You' have very much suggested that you're against

Masonfemale submission to their partner um so we spoke about cooking you said specifically you were turned off by the word submission like submission like my

Dianamom submits to my dad and it kind of like irks me that's you said that the context of her because we don't know what her life and her upbringing was like just like you guys it doesn't really matter it does matter so much

Masonbecause your you have if someone says if someone says regardless of how they were brought up regardless of their history it irks me that my mom submits to my dad that's a

Masonbut that's coming in her context it's not just an off the cuff yeah well we also know in the context that it seems you saw loving parents and you got a great example of what M talk about it seems like that her parents have a

Dianapretty good relationship that her mom's not miserable like she going to say public but there people stay for multiple different reasons but that's you making an assumption that there

Dianacould be some I'm speaking from experience no but you're speaking from experence well you can't you can't apply your from experience coming from family and also first generation also very

Dianasubmissive culture like you know I I know I and I see her struggling to to articulate herself because she's a little bit younger she hasn't had to argue her viewpoint but I know how big

Dianaof a turnoff it was to me to see like my dad talking to my mom in a demeaning maybe tone just because he was raised to be clear is your dad being demeaning towards your mom when we talk about

Brian Atlascooking and that was the whole topic yeah so there are things that people come to the table with and that's it's not but it could be anyway I just there's so many notes I have to get

Brian Atlasthrough I don't know if I'll even be able to get through all of them um I think really quick though on the hoop pays thing again I'm just kind of confused of if it's okay for for a woman to say I think a man should pay for the

Brian Atlasfirst date why is it also wrong for a man to say I think I want a woman to make me a sandwich I feel like it's unfair to make me a sandwich only just make me a sandwich once

Macythough yeah no well I would say I think it's unfair to equate one the first dat he's paying for the first date to a lifelong obligation of paying of making meals for like your husband I think if you like work out an agreement

Macyeventually or not even eventually just by the second date where it's like you're more open to splitting the bill or you offer like that's more of like a give or take relationship like it doesn't one date shouldn't equate the

Brian Atlasthe lifetime of um meals I just think it's funny like so how women hate when men ask to go 5050 on a date but are perfectly comfortable with 50/50 in a

Alissadivorce I would I think it's just the first date we're talking about yeah we we I would be willing to split on the second dat let me ask you guys just you guys a question really quick okay just tell me why like make an

Alissaactual argument why men should pay on the first date yeah because I think it's a way of showing interest like well hold on showing investment yeah to put like

Missywork into this like what a female in herself too they dress up they buy jewelry they do their nails stuff like that but that's not an investment in the man sorry that's not an investment in the man that's an investment in I put in

Alissaa lot of effort to be here on this state you asked me to come to I expect you to pay for it well didn't the guy put in just an equal amount of effort if not more he asked me to go on the date though I didn't bring this upon him he

Brian Atlasbrought it upon me do you have you ever asked a guy out on a date no okay well I I have and he paid what's that I have and he paid I and he still I hate to admit it but but more often than not like for you

Brian Atlaswhen it comes to first date like of the times you've been asked out by a guy more often than not is it the guy asking or are you asking I've asked once the other times the guy's asked and so you asked one time how many time what 10 times of guys have hit on you I don't

Brian Atlasknow three times three times what about you uh like two times two times okay more often than not men are the ones initiating here so um it's kind of this

Brian Atlaslike very convenient position to say well you asked you should pay well what what's the alternative okay fine as a guy I'll just sit back and wait for

Brian Atlaswomen to ask me out on dates so that they can pay for the date but then that then that man gets faced with the brutal reality of he's never going to get asked

Brian Atlasout on a date most men never get asked out on dates well that's just the way like it is okay but so what's the AR what's the actual argument for why a man should pay and you answered but what

Alissaabout you I agree with her answer be because they asked brought you they wanted you to go so why wouldn't they pay for it but you

Missysee how that's unfair because you never asked they asked me to go right but women never really ask the man so it's always going to be on the man and then you're we're having the same

Macyconversation what what do you think I think it's one day and if they're going to like I kind of said it earlier like after the first dat I'd totally be open to SP it honestly I'd be open to splitting the first day I would probably be like okay you don't like me that much

Brian Atlasthen if like you want to split it just cuz I think it is the investment thing huh go ahead um but yeah yeah the investment thing well me going around the table starting with you if you go on a date with guy and he he wants to split

Brian Atlaswill there be a second date if the date went well

Nataliayeah yeah yeah yeah sorry guys yeah yeah there will be a second date yeah it depends how the date went and if I knew them before yeah if the date went like

Production Staffreally well then yeah I don't oppose to splitting I just prefer the Manda pay same yeah I kind of prefer splitting the first date I don't think there would be a second date okay all right s we're going to move on we're going to move on

Brian Atlaslet's see let's get back to some B do the bow thing oh yeah that's not that's decent yeah all right here's my view fine men should pay for First Dates

Brian Atlasmy own view I think women should bow nck play the video all right this is what I think a woman should do boom hit look at that bow great technique great skill sand look at look

Brian Atlasat the attentiveness get putting putting in the dirty laundry hamper look at that come home from a long podcast come home from A Hard Day's Work the dinner's ready look at this she's attentive she's got

Brian Atlasshe's got my drink oh my noodles need stirring yep look at that boom very a bit a bit too much but okay

Brian AtlasI'll accept it and one more time one more time with the bow look at the bow boom I want I want a girl to Bow um would you if you were dating a guy and

Alissahe was like Hey I want you to every time you see me I want you to hit a bow would you do it I didn't know I almost feel like that's his way of like establishing dominance like what if you for every day

Masonif he paid for every day he pays for everything the provider the house you live in in this in this one in this first date in this like immediate interaction he's providing he's the big

Masonman he's dominating in the financial aspect like he you're going to he's probably going to dominate the conversation yeah like like he's probably going to be the one that's asking the questions cuz generally

Masonspeaking when I've gone on dates it's me who is going to have to generate all the questions cuz I asked the person on the date I feel like there's a burden upon me to like kind of carry the

Masonconversation I think generally speaking that's kind of the the what women ask of men in first dates so would you do about you pay for every date I would well no

Masonno so okay so the first date just in this hypothetical world if I'm going to pay for a date I I it would be kind of cool to see

Masona bow first date that dat respect like I respect you as a man J on the I respect you I respect you as a woman so I'm going to provide for you I

Brian Atlasrespect you as a man therefore I'm going to Bow she crazy if you're bowing on the first date I think it's crazy if a man would always pay for the first date maybe like I don't even think it would be good if she bows on the first date I'll except

Macysecond date though if you were on a date with a girl and she legitimately bowed with bowed for you you'd be like oh my God like no like that's like weird kind weird down I be cing if you didn't ask

Masonfor the bow and she just bowed that' be so be so never I would wife her on the spot that would be like a massive green

Missycheck like please sit down I will pay for whatever you want would you would you do B um I'd make a joke of it yes but I have cooked and baked for men on dates and they did not come back so I don't know if it's actually going to

Brian Atlaswork but would you hit a bow for a man never even your not remove the first date thing from this let's say you're just you've been dating a guy for six months and all of a sudden he's

Dianalike I'd like for you to bow to me be hilarious I was going to say something highly inappropriate but no I don't I feel like bowing was instilled for like

Macypeople that were a lower social class and stuff right kingdoms things like that that's what's up would he bow to the girl like she was like it's not money but if she were to be cooking every day for him even if it is money

Macylet's be honest Sometimes women make a lot of money too if she cuz sure the if you the like traditional like men bring money to the table but like women bring something else to the table like

Macynurturing loving like would you bow to the female for if she's doing everything that desire for a woman to do I think bowing is a posture it's like thank you if you're going to expect the woman to B

Macyyou for just bringing like the bread winner of the family but you're not going to Bow her for if she's hitting that's why she's going to hold on but okay we're just going like you want the guy to pay for the first date

Masonyou won't hit a bow you want a guy to die for you you won't hit a bow like the thing is like traditionally

Masonspeaking like in in his historically speaking women they're they had incredible respect for men because what the role that they played the provider

Masonthe protector I'm going to make sure that you have a safe place to raise our children so that you can create the Next Generation and continue my legacy there's like incredible respect that was

Masongiven to men because of that that's traditionally and so when you expect men to provide on the first date by paying I'm not saying it has to be a bow but there's like he doesn't want I want the

Masonbow I want the bow oh you want the bow no I want the bow i i i influenced you you definitely but like it's that's a tangible way to show that you respect the man for the role that he plays I

Alissawould find it endearing I would definitely I as for it I was like what's up babe let me see real quick super serious about it cuz that's kind of concerning if you're like no like bow like if they seems like you're pretty

Masonserious about them paying for the first date I wouldn't press it I it's not like something no no I'm not saying like uh I'm I Will Not Bow you must bow for if

Brian Atlasit was like hostile like coming from here's here's the here's the frame right we want if we ask we and okay we

Brian Atlasask we want you to want to do it yeah yeah us wa for the date I would do but it would be very

Dianabeneficial but in Asian culture males and females bow to each other that's a keeper right there in Asian culture men and females bow to each other it's a sign of mutual respect I'm such a white

Macyguy I'm sorry I that's what I was trying to get at when I was saying earlier how if your wife is doing everything that you want her to like in traditional form what you would want her to do it's like a mutual like she brings 50% of it into the relationship if he brings 50 yeah

Macyyou're bringing different aspects he might be the bread winner but she's doing everything else that you'd want her to do I understand you like see that as her respecting You by like so wait you want you want the guy to do the bow no I'm just saying that if if they're

Macydoing she was saying that in Asian culture they both bow because they respect what each each other brings to the table men B to the wom men bow to other men in Asian I don't know the deta I don't know the details of

MissyI don't think women want the guy to bow to them though to be a leader that's the whole point though is that women are man opening a man opening a door you want like Peg a guy too oh my God what are

Dianayou talking about you just said you wanted a woman no you just B to you how is it different I got inition a man opening a door for a woman is the equivalent not you want to bend

Alissagu you want to dominate a man I'm sick of this you want to dominate a I think she trying to say like let's say you pay for the date so then I bow but the next

Missyday she cooks the meal are you bowing the man the bow back the man is supposed to be the leader and the woman is supposed to submit to him in a traditional relationship therefore like if he's bowing to it's not like a

Masonmutually equal that's like more feminist ideology so ideally that's the situation if a woman cooked for me like I would do a ton for

Brian Atlasher I wouldn't bow but like I give his life my life man he give his life any you make me a sandwich I'll jump in front of a bowl go around the table did everybody answer on the bow thing I

Brian Atlasthink you said no yeah I said no Madison would you bow left and right if he did you hit a bow I told You' hit a bow for Frankie I told you I did oh you did but I okay to be fair I off yeah I don't

Production Staffthink he got the right message cuz I did do this one about and then he bowed back cuz he thought we were going to play Ninja or something Frank he's a s no but no would you hit a a bow I'd hit a bow

Alexybut I I'd hope you to hit a bow back eventually in a funny way yeah but not serious yeah i' hit a curtsy yeah no I would I asked I asked my boyfriend about this though he was like no I wouldn't

Alexywant you to do that and but I think of it like you know if I were to say hey it would make me feel really respected and special if you did X whatever you know I

Alexythink in relationships like that kind of conversation happens a lot but I would I kind of make a joke now like I'll randomly be like I bow to you can you this so if the man should pay for the

Alissafirst date should the man be expected for the first time and birth control if not who pays the consequence what should the man be

Brian Atlasexpecting for the first time men can't get pregnant bro um can't be expected to get some is that what he means yeah no I don't that's I think he like expected to pay for like a plan b or something is

Brian Atlasthat what he's trying to get at and like birth control cuz he's talking about buying it for them I don't really understand the question maybe could you clarify um I yeah I don't understand the question I'm sorry Ben could you try to

Brian Atlasclarify a little bit okay more notes more notes oh man this could be okay I'll try to I'm going to get through these quick uh hold on uh okay the we did the

Brian Atlastwo men's thing talking stage splitting the bill do guys ever get over their first love we're going to skip that no offense uh hot takes if it were the right person it would be the right time

Alissawhat does that mean I think a lot of times like we try to like deflect why a relationship didn't work out we were like oh like he was the right person but it just wasn't the right time he wasn't in the right place but I think if it is

Alissathe right person he's going to make an effort for it to be the right time and a lot of people are like delusional about that and they keep making up excuses for and then the next thing is lasting too

Alissalong as a guy during sex is a real thing we were talking about this because I feel like it's just like a sign of like them being addicted to porn cuz why if they last too long yeah cuz I feel like

Alissathey're like oh little closer to the mic you're I feel like it's like a sign of that because what are they doing like I did have an experience with a guy where he like lasted way too long and I had asked

Alissahim about it because I don't know I was like maybe this is like a meat problem but he said that like he had like had like a year where he would just like Edge like all the time for fun like to

Brian Atlastrain himself or something and now it's like a problem okay and so uh how long did he last like an hour lord it's pretty pretty long I guess good you guys

Brian Atlasyou said you're were talking about with your girlfriends though have you had that experience no what's like okay so going around the table really quick quick answer like what's the um ideal

Brian Atlasperiod of time for a uh encounter to last you think oh good God it depends I don't know I would say for

Missyme no more than half an hour because God my body can't take it okay Maddie can I skipped this question if you don't want to answer that's fine God I'm not a if

Production Staffyou answer that's fine any girls any other girls no answer no comment no comment yeah I don't want to answer it either oh okay for how long sexual that's not that's well I feel like it's

Brian Atlasdifferent for every encounter that you have I think there's definitely sometimes a quickie can be good the older you get to there's more factors involved so yeah it's all different I mean women don't stay wet forever too so

DianaI mean you're GNA it just depends some some women depends on the interaction it depends on like what's going on if you guys are talking about just penetration then that's like a whole different I think

Missylike a like 30 seconds is pretty good though yeah wait did you say yes no I did I did wait yeah you agree okay well I speaking

Nick (production)of double standards what the was that that fly came for me wait did you lose something Nick you're just like dude the for some reason the last two $10 CHS didn't automatically St so I

Brian Atlashad to go that's weird Okay speaking of double standards why is it that when a man premature ejaculates that's

Dianabad wait but it's good for a woman like if she comes too quick so unfair how's that unfair the man's relieved cuz he got her off and she

Brian Atlasshe's the more complicated one to get to orgasm women take on average like 20 minutes just takes longer bad joke like okay hold on for example would you agree though like if it's too like if a guy

Dianacomes too quick though that's also a problem right oh she okay I don't know like three pumps what if you're not what if you get satisfied like what if you're

Diananot satisfied but he went no I know but I but that wasn't the question you said like if he's done fast with that well comes fast if it happens every single time like maybe there's

Brian Atlassomething we can talk about but talk a Bo talk Bo a boot sorry um oh godamn I said cuz like no I don't think there's

Brian Atlasany guy there's no guy who's like I wish he didn't come so fast said no man ever you know I it's a relief I don't

Dianausually say that about men in the past I I think men have to deal with all of this stigma of like oh my gosh there's so many nerve endings and whatever how could you possibly not

Dianamake a woman orgasm but it it is complex women get in their brain a lot more it's not just mechanical yeah like it's very different I heard an interesting thing that you said and I don't know if I can

Missysay it go ahead well you said about like not going down on women in one of your things and I found that interesting cuz like I personally find that to be like some like a too intimate thing so I don't know I just found that interesting

Brian Atlasthat you feel that way well okay so I mean when it comes to sex I want her to come first yeah but there's other ways to do it than than that but like no

Brian Atlasmatter what I want her to come first then I can go but that's the ideal yeah it's crazy though I mean some of these women got like multiple orgasms come

Brian Atlasafter like 3 seconds shit's crazy son yep it's good it's good double standards though if a guy is like busting after 3 seconds that's not most women are not going to be satisfied with

Macythat well he's kind of like I just never mind huh ladies can what go ahead say if he's if it's that fast and he's like out of commission like he can do like you know like like rebounds like

Macyexactly well like girls if they finish first like technically like you can like you can you can just you can like intend you can can Tech technically keep going like if a guy like he's done then he's

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