She MISSED Her Ex While MARRIED?! Her Past DOES NOT Matter?! Andrew Wilson IRL! | Dating Talk #205

Date: 2024-10-16

Duration: 7h 08m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlissa (DT205)>

JJamie (DT205)>

TToria Brooke >

MMorgan (DT205)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Jamie(guest)

SPEAKER_03Bella Cakes(guest)

SPEAKER_04Hedy(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Toria Brooke(guest)

SPEAKER_11Yeka(guest)

SPEAKER_12Alissa(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAlissa introduces herself: 28yo real estate agent and residential cleaning LLC owner from Austin TX. Returns to recap divorce and absent ex-husband.

“my name is Alyssa I'm 28 I'm a real estate agent and I also um own a cleaning a residential cleaning LLC and I live in Austin”

IntroBella Cakes introduces herself: 21yo from Michigan, does OnlyFans (solo + BG with boyfriend) and works at a coffee shop.

“hi I'm Bella online I go by Bella cakes um I'm from Michigan I'm 21 and I do only fans and I also work at a coffee shop”

IntroJamie introduces herself: 24yo from Santa Barbara CA, stay-at-home parent (formerly paraeducator), some college.

“my name is Jamie I'm 24 I'm from uh Santa Barbara California um kind of in a break for work I'm doing uh stay-at-home parenting”

IntroYeka introduces herself: 35yo from Bastrop TX, sells gold and silver.

“I'm yeka I'm 35 uh I sell gold and silver and I am in Bastrop Texas”

IntroToria Brooke introduces herself: 31yo citizen journalist and senior adviser to President Trump, Palm Beach County FL.

“I'm Toria Brooke I'm 31 and I'm a citizen journalist and I also work for a senior adviser to president Trump”

IntroHedy introduces herself: 30yo from LA area, moved to Salt Lake City with husband 4 years ago, art history degree, between jobs (was in interior design), stay-at-home wife.

“hi my name is Hedy I'm 30 years old I'm originally from um Los Angeles area but I moved to Salt Lake City with my husband about 4 years ago”

IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself: host of The Crucible, political analyst and satirist.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's a popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst political saturnist”

QuoteAndrew Wilson states that if he decides not to involve his wife in a decision, that is his choice not hers. Framing of patriarchal household authority.

“if it is the case that I do do that right she doesn't have a say so when I feel inclined to do so if necessary she doesn't have a say”

QuoteAlissa rates herself an 8/10 after Brian pushes back on her reluctance to rate herself (she initially deflected, then said 8).

“eight there we go there we go”

QuoteYeka argues that a person living a new life in Christ should not be judged by their past body count — God's forgiveness should matter.

“our father has given us the gift of forgiveness if you are living a new life and have been living a new life for years that's what should matter”

QuoteAndrew counters Yeka's forgiveness argument using the pedophile analogy: being forgiven for something doesn't mean you let them near your kids.

“do you think that um people who have assaulted children... can be forgiven... you going to let them watch your kids no no so just because you've been forgiven for a thing doesn't necessarily mean that suddenly we're just going to look past what you did”

QuoteAlissa reveals her body count Instagram poll: ~95% of respondents said body count is NOT a dealbreaker if otherwise compatible.

“I made a Instagram poll and asked their age religion political background whatever to account for all the variables... like 95% probably said they don't care it's not a dealbreaker”

QuoteAlissa describes seeing her ex instinctively push her behind him during a bar fight — found it very attractive.

“I was at an I don't ever go out but we went out the other night and um there was like a big fight that happened at this bar and like the ex automatically like pushed me behind him and it was so hot”

ControversyBrian reads Reddit post about woman considering breaking off engagement after fiancé ran away from mugger while her brother stayed and fought. Update: she called off the wedding.

“am I the [bleep] for considering breaking up with my fiance because he ran away when we were being attacked... 2 Days Later calls off the wedding”

ControversyBrian reveals Alissa came to Santa Barbara with her ex-boyfriend, contradicting her earlier claim to be single. Calls it 'red pill number one'.

“so to the viewers you got two massive red pills one she said she was single she's been having sex with her ex-boyfriend for 3 weeks two they've flown out together”

ControversyAndrew Wilson predicts Alissa will NOT marry her ex-boyfriend; calls the ex's behavior 'revenge' — he is having fun and will not commit.

“100% you're not getting married to this guy you don't think so guarantee it... you screwed him over and he's getting massive revenge and he's literally having a ball doing it”

ControversyAlissa admits she was in love with her ex-boyfriend during the entire duration of her marriage, including while saying vows.

“I was always in love with him... there's been times where he's like one time he drunk texted me and he was like I've thought an unhealthy amount about raising your kids”

QuoteBrian shares that his assault case with on-camera confession was declined by the DA. He won the civil case but argues a female victim would have been prosecuted.

“the individuals were actually located... they confessed to assaulting me confessed on body camera... the district attorney did not pursue the charges... had I been a woman they would have prosecuted those guys”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Status

Guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian mentions two separate pending legal threats. Panel covers relationship statuses, longest relationships, divorce details. Alissa recaps her divorce, custody dispute, and absent ex-husband. Bella discusses current boyfriend met on Tinder. Jamie reveals instant pregnancy story. Yeka discusses 5 years single and 3 years celibate. Toria single 1.5 years. Hedy just married in May 2024. Morgan is 18yo SBCC student. Andrew married 10+ years.

Body Count: Does It Matter?

Alissa shares Instagram poll results: ~95% of respondents said body count is not a dealbreaker if otherwise compatible. Andrew Wilson argues body count should matter for multiple reasons (STDs, dopamine downregulation, attachment issues). Brian adds that women are more likely to sleep with high-status men who have slept with many women (asymmetry in how body count reflects on status). Discussion of whether men are hypocrites for caring about women's body counts while ignoring their own. Alissa notes physiological effects apply equally to both sexes. Andrew argues from secular and religious perspectives separately.

Submission, Patriarchal Marriage, and the Bow

Andrew reveals he sometimes makes unilateral household decisions without consulting wife. Debate on whether a woman should 'bow' when her man comes home (Brian plays a video). Panel split: Alissa and others find bowing degrading; Toria would rather split a mortgage than bow; Yeka would bow after exclusivity; Hedy depends on the person. Andrew argues bowing is simply a submission gesture and nothing sinful. Bella Cakes would bow for current boyfriend, not a near-stranger. Andrew's position: patriarchal marriage with man as head; wife should submit unless commanded to sin. Debate on whether Christian wives must obey imperfect husbands (Paul's letters, Ephesians 5:22-24). Jamie says bowing is degrading but not a dealbreaker.

Provider Expectations and Who Pays on Dates

Discussion of what 'being provided for' means for a stay-at-home wife. Andrew probes for specifics: food, shelter, nails, hair, car? Jamie says needs plus some spending money. Bella Cakes says needs and wants. Andrew points out the vagueness and asks who decides at the threshold. Brian confirms all women want man to pay on first date as default expectation. Jamie says splitting is okay if there is chemistry; prefers man to pay but not dealbreaker. Yeka: non-negotiable that man pays first date.

Dating App Profile Reviews

Brian reviews Alissa's dating app profile (read by Alissa): values intellect, nerds/homesteaders, INTP, acts of service, no hookup culture, Instagram: Clementine. Reviews Bella's profile: likes TV shows, INTP personality, Cosmos by Carl Sagan. Reviews Yeka's profile: instant hit, lives biblically, loves conspiracies. Discussion of authenticity and selectiveness of profiles. Chat votes swipe yes/no on each profile.

Self-Ratings Round

Brian asks guests to rate themselves 1-10 (prompted by Stiffler in chat). Alissa: 8 (after Brian pushed back on her low initial response). Toria: 8+ (declined to use scale; says men would rate her 8+). Hedy: declined initially; agreed she'd be rated 8+ by 100 men. Morgan: 7 (under peer pressure). Andrew: 10 (joking confident answer). Brian: 5.

Aging & 10-Year Lookback

Brian asks each guest: will you be better-looking in 10 years? Were you better at 25? Alissa (28): better now than at 18; unlikely to keep improving. Bella (21): doesn't know if she'll be 'here' in 10 years (dark hypothetical). Toria (31): believes she ages like fine wine; better at 31 than 21; sees aging well. Hedy (30): better now at 30 than at 20 (cheek fat gone). Would not be better at 40. Yeka (35): better now at 35 than at 25. Instagram throwbacks shown for some guests.

Christian Forgiveness vs. Mate Selection

Yeka argues that if a person has a dark past but is now living a new life in Christ, their past should not matter as God's forgiveness erases it. Andrew counters: forgiveness by God does not obligate Christians to date/marry someone with high body count. Uses example: pedophiles can be forgiven but you still don't let them watch your kids. Both agree it is not hypocritical for a man to reject a woman based on body count even if he has the same count, because dating preferences are not required to be symmetric. Debate on whether it is hypocritical to sleep with someone while rejecting someone who slept with people of same sex.

Bella's 4chan Discord Hookup Story

Bella Cakes explains she started her online presence by posting a selfie on 4chan where it got attention. Built a Discord server with orbiters. One orbiter she connected with drove to Michigan and paid for everything; they met in a hotel and hooked up.

Women Having It Easier in Dating

Bella says women have it easier because men want sex so badly and do the approaching. Toria disagrees: hotter women get approached less because men fear rejection. Bella clarifies she means unattractive women have it hard, not attractive women. Andrew agrees women have it easier overall. Discussion of women's leverage vs. actual relationship quality. Brian says even unattractive women get male attention. Debate on whether patriarchy created women's 'easier' dating experience.

Fiance Running from Mugger: Would You Leave?

Brian reads Reddit post: woman's fiance ran away when they were mugged; brother stayed and beat attacker. Woman considering breaking off engagement. Two days later she called off the wedding. Panel: Alissa would get the ick and lose attraction to a man who ran. Toria: would leave — a man who can't defend you can't defend your family. Yeka: would chalk it up as a weak moment but not necessarily leave. Hedy: would reconsider given lifelong commitment of marriage. Alissa notes her ex instinctively pushed her behind him during a bar fight — found it hot.

Alissa's Marriage Revelation: In Love With Ex During Marriage

Brian and Andrew reveal Alissa came to Santa Barbara with her ex-boyfriend (not disclosed initially). Alissa admits she reconnected with ex after going to retrieve her handgun he had stored. Ex paid thousands toward her divorce retrial lawyer. Ex left 3-year girlfriend for her. Brian identifies 3 'red pills': (1) Alissa claimed single but has been sleeping with ex for 3 weeks; (2) she was in love with/fantasizing about ex during her marriage; (3) the ex she originally left when she chose to move to Austin (her own fault). Andrew predicts she will not end up marrying him; calls it 'revenge.' Alissa insists it's the real thing; ex's family and friends are unsurprised by reunion.

Misogynist or Not: Brian vs Andrew

Brian asks panel to rate who is more misogynist: him or Andrew. Most say Brian. Alissa says probably more Brian but Andrew's autocratic husband views initially seemed more concerning. Jamie says Brian. Yeka says neither. Toria says depends on definition. Hedy says she disagrees with both at times. Brian jokes he calls men names on the show too (called male feminists degenerate). Andrew says he would say mean things to men and women equally.

Are Women Oppressed?

Bella argues women are oppressed because their value is based on appearance. Brian and Andrew push back: ugly women still get male attention, ugly men do not. Panel discusses whether the same sex or opposite sex treats ugly people worse. Brian shares his own assault case: DA declined to prosecute despite on-camera confession; argues a female victim would have received prosecution. Andrew: police give women more passes (speeding tickets, pat-downs, DUIs). Jamie says yes women are oppressed, especially in workplace wage gaps. Toria links cultural issue to lack of strong male leadership. Debate on whether 'patriarchy' created women having it easier in dating.

Roast Session & Wrap-Up

Final TTS roast session. Chat roasts all guests. Brian fails to win a game of solitaire despite being 3 aces in. Twitch raid to W_Grandma. Brian considers dropping to one show per week in 2025 due to recruitment difficulty and burnout. Final goodbyes.

Transcript

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Andrew Wilsonjust conceited that point literally just conceited that point I would say that wouldn't that doesn't mean that it's detrimental though over what's going on with the man wait Andrew if I may point out I do believe this is Shifting the

Brian Atlasgoalpost here because I believe your original claim was even in the instance where let's assume that the damage caused by a woman onto a man and the damage caused by a man onto a woman

Brian Atlasassuming the damage was totally equivalent your position was still even with equivalent damage done no it wasn't that that it's still worse for the woman

Andrew Wilsonno I that was your position spoke then so this whole argument I'm willing but I'm willing to just concede it because I don't think it has any Merit right I'm going to that's not my position I'm

Andrew Wilsongoing to assume this in fact let me just oh wait one one second hang on yeah go ahead go ahead I'm going to assume this in fact that every single time there's a confrontation between a man and a woman which is physical that the man's going to overwhelmingly win and the woman's

Andrew Wilsongoing to get her ass kicked okay no matter what in every single circumstance so what you hit a man that's what happens what's the problem here weren't we talking about sa how and

Bella Cakeswhat were we talking about before that yeah but I'd like an answer to I'd like they answer question I don't think that okay I'm just saying I think that like when there is a physical abuse situation like if a woman ends up like punching

Andrew Wilsonher boyfriend he is not necessarily going to need to like go to the hospital because he does so it doesn't take a physical toll on him much yeah it takes a physical toll you're just saying it takes a lesser one yeah it my question to you is

Andrew Wilsonwhat is is actually wrong with what is actually immoral about what is actually problematic if a woman strikes a man for him to strike her back

Bella Cakeswhat um honestly I don't necessarily think there is something wrong there right so then your whole point here makes no sense because even if I concede

Andrew Wilsonthe battered women shelters yes they they're going to lose every single time they get into a fight with a man you've just conceded that if they strike a man you're striking first then it's different from him striking you first

Andrew Wilsonyeah but you and I agree that nobody should be striking anybody yeah exactly but we understand that there are women who do strike men and if they do that you don't have anything morally to say

Toria Brookeabout the man hitting her back nothing so are you going to say that Cassie shouldn't have maybe pressed charges against Diddy for what are we all in agreement that what Diddy did to Cassie was wrong

Toria Brookeand that that is sa I mean that's abuse but what the details here are well because I feel like there's some kind of discrepancy here and it's not being

Toria Brookeaccurately discussed that when a man hits a woman unprovoked without the woman hitting him then that's wrong just like you're saying no one should be hitting each other probably all agree on

Andrew Wilsonthat both I mean he'd be able to do a lot more damage to Cassie than Cassie would have done to him yeah but what but so this is where the problem comes in though right it's like so what yes I I

Andrew Wilsonget it the guy's going to do way more damage than the girl right but so what the moral imperative seems like it's the same to me it just seems like it's exactly the same thing like we were

Andrew Wilsontalking about women being nurturing so it's like it's immoral for you to hit men keep up at this right it's immoral for you to hit men is immoral for men to hit you great that's what we've established uh why don't you believe in like maternal instincts and women being

Andrew Wilsonmore nurturing well I think they have maternal instincts but doesn't that coincide with what does nurturing mean here let's start with that what does nurture mean I think being a natural caretaker you know being inclined to

Andrew Wilsontake care of children and you know those in need yeah no I dispute I dispute categorically when I look at data for single fathers and single mothers the single fathers seem to be excellent caretakers the children live in cleaner

Andrew Wilsonhouses have better outcomes go to prison less they all sort I mean almost every outcome every metric they do better do you think that's because usually when the father gets the child it's because

Andrew Wilsonthe mother was like a really bad mom and the father is like way better no I think that sometimes they just get them because the mom dies yeah an out but

Andrew Wilsonlet's but we can make these comparisons like this right so you can follow widows you can follow men whose wives have died and then you can follow women whose husbands have Di and you can take a look done this and you can no there's been

Andrew Wilsontons of studies which have done this and you can look at the comparisons and you can see the outcomes for single fathers and single father homes are better and here's why here's the number one reason why it's because because of men it's

Andrew Wilsonbecause of women bringing strange men in they're usually far more likely they're not related to the child to be abusive towards the child men who are raising children they don't have that problem with women but this isn't talking about

Alissamen and women this is talking about single mothers and single fathers so then wouldn't that prove the point that men are more abusive not and I don't care either way but just because you said earlier that you don't believe that men are more abusive men have men have a

Andrew Wilsonforce Doctrine which can make a deterrence that women can't not that they're more abusive but that they that women are far less likely to like oh I don't know do something bad to a man's child because he can really

Bella Cakessignificantly hurt her badly right is there a study with like mothers and fathers together that shows because like this study father right about the outome of single dads well yeah but this is

Bella Cakesshowing single mothers and single fathers there might be other like um you know yes there there might be like other outside factors okay but here's what my

Andrew Wilsonargument was my argument was no I'm not willing to concede that more nurturing if our metric for more nurturing is I know kid's healthy kid is clean kid feels loved kid feels safe I feel like

Andrew Wilsonthat's all things we would agree nurturing is if that hang on and if that is the case and the metrics for all these children is way better under all of those criteria then how can I make the claim that women are more nurturing

Bella Cakesbecause I think that those claims might kind of like mix together with like your idea of what a man should be because that's like if a kid is fed that's like providing if

Bella Cakesa kid feels safe pry nurturing yeah well what the hell does nurturing mean nurturing love women tend to put more loved like I can tell kid feels loved when he's dirty no it's not like no it's

Alissalike Words of Affirmation like think of Love Lang you're probably wrong there though I like do the study specifically say that the dads keep the kids more clean because if I am just guessing and I I do know that you're right about the

Alissastats on this but if I was to guess the variables and involved here like women do tend to put more pressure on like we're more neurotic so we're like they have to be perfectly clean they have to be this and that makes us more stressed and maybe we're like more [ __ ] and

Andrew Wilsonless caret takey um but it also creates multitasking so you get less of it done whereas men do do singular tasks better so the thing is is I think that men uh

Andrew Wilsonyeah I think that their Basics would be like okay you're fed you're clean right you went to school you didn't [ __ ] up it was a good day right I really think that it's probably not going to be too much more complex than that and by the way it

Alissaprobably doesn't need to be more comple you think that maybe like a woman's biological drive to be a caretaker and like because we definitely have more anxiety when it comes to things like that I you may have more of a biological

Andrew Wilsondrive to be one but what we're disputing is whether or not you're better at it my dispute here again I'll give you my position again there is not one thing a woman can do that a man can't do equally

Andrew Wilsonas good if not better but there's multiple things that women cannot do that men can do much better so if men could have children would you date men no so why okay so then why are you dating women if the only thing they can

Bella Cakesdo better is have children what did I give you biological what did I give you the criteria here for I'm asking you like you said that the only okay so why are you with your wife for example you mean the mother of my children yeah why

Andrew Wilsonare you with her because she's the mother of my children and I love her okay why do you love her but for all sorts of different reasons why give some examples uh because she's super smart and she cares a lot about me and she

Andrew Wilsonthinks I'm wonderful and etc etc there you go there I go what what are you talking about how does this demonstrate that women are better at any of these tasks than men I can give you an example of women being more nurur wait you're

Andrew Wilsonsaying because because she has all of those that I I should feel like attracted to men if they have those because why wouldn't you be with a man who's better cuz I don't want to [ __ ] men but why don't you want because

Bella Cakesthey're [ __ ] men what do you mean why not because you're noted to them homosexual yeah you're not attracted to them exactly so the only thing that you think women is better women are better at is having children so you oh no I'm

Andrew Wilsonsorry you're right there's two things I guess women are also better at wanting at men wanting to [ __ ] them over other men okay so you so you view take the W

Andrew Wilsonno you view your wife as uh inferior inferior in manyi tasks yes inferior in everything but having kids yeah she's so she's going to be better than me at having children and that's it but

Andrew Wilsonindividually that doesn't mean that individually uh women can't be better at some tasks and men so for instance my wife's better at writing than I am right she has a book I don't have a book uh she's better at all sorts of things than

Andrew WilsonI am she's better at complex mathematics than me she's better at music than I am right sucks at all other uh all sorts of other things this is the ultimate red herring you just gave which is if your wife is better than you at some task

Andrew Wilsonthen this somehow equates because at the individual level this is true that you can demonstrate that there's tasks which women can generally do that men also cannot do just as well as them you

Bella Cakescannot do that I think that it's fallacious argumentation that's fair I think that men are very good and very bad at things I think they're the best and the worst at things and women kind of like fall in the middle so it's kind

Andrew Wilsonof hard to like make that so then you agree with me that there's nothing you can think of at all which women are better at than men but there's things you can think of that men are better at than women um I mean I would have to honestly is that what you just said honestly like I would have to think

Alissaabout that because I think that there're well think about it I'll give you time right now so back to the nurturing point if you look at divorce stats when the other partner gets sick the men leave

Alissatheir their sick wives at insane rates so with that I mean like you can't say that's more nurturing it not maybe not to a child but to their partner in that regard women are definitely I'm not

Andrew Wilsonfamiliar with exactly what study is that you're looking at right um and this could have something to do with how long they've been there if there was kids because women could be more likely for instance to conceal sicknesses they

Andrew Wilsoncould be more likely for instance to conceal certain things which have been going on which led to certain sicknesses so there's justification I don't know because I'm not familiar with the stats that you're citing there could be all sorts of reasons for this which have

Hedynothing to do with nurturing but have to do with justification also careers that look it up and circle back some point we should do that and I'll take a look at the study sure careers that lend themselves to nurturing and caretaking like nursing

Andrew Wilsonteaching do have a much higher rate of hosit they do I agree hospitals are absolutely begging for male nurses and they're begging like you can't believe for them because they want physically strong men to be able to move patients

Bella Cakesbut why don't they choose to go into that if they're more nurturing because they can make a lot more money doing other things okay so they're not passion interested women are make a lot of women

Andrew Wilsonmake too and they Cho they don't have aens hang on this is where we're going to have some disputes no they can't they're not going to go do Roofing they're not going to go do trade work they're not going to go be rocket ship Engineers they're not going to do any of that [ __ ] they're going to do the exact

Andrew Wilsonsame [ __ ] that they've been doing for 2,000 years which is nursing teaching and serving your beverages go to medical school they can they go to medical school to be nurses why don't they go TOS going down and then why don't they go to business school because they're

Andrew Wilsonnot interested in having business highes okay but why are they more interested okay I'm they're really not that interest why are they more interested in nursing and teaching than in business stem because there's a

Andrew Wilsonthere's an application of what can be done I think they also have a higher propensity for nurturing and caretaking no I think it's a limitation on what is possible what is possible for most women I don't think most women hang on I'll

Andrew Wilsonanswer this I don't think most women can do Roofing do you agree I don't think so okay you hang on that's a specific example I don't think most women can be indoor electricians I don't think most

Alissawomen can do that do you agree or disagree I agree I don't think most women can be plumbers but that's those are all labor jobs yeah so is nursing nursing is a labor job but this is also the reason for the

Andrew Wilsongender P what's that and there are higher rates of uh graduation rates in women for women right now than that's always been the case even even since literally the dawn of the nation it's always been the case that women had higher graduation

Andrew Wilsonrates always been the case that they have higher graduation rates there NE that's never not been the case because because physical labor is available to men that's why what I'm saying is they can go into careers that um will be more

Andrew Wilsonlucrative they can but they don't they don't want because they have a higher propensity for jobs that include maybe they want to go into that because that's where they're wired to but that still wouldn't demonstrate so that's where they're wired to but they're still

Andrew Wilsonwouldn't demonstrate that they're more so X so let us pretend for a second let us assume for a second that we knew immediately that both of us were wired for the same exact amount of empathy we

Andrew Wilsonknew this right but you were limited in what the scope was of jobs that you could or couldn't have and I wasn't I wasn't so out of all the ones that you had you went oh well you know what I'm pretty high up in empathy so I think

Andrew WilsonI'll be a nurse because I would really like to do that I may also have really liked to do that but I had all of these other jobs available to me to go do those instead so I went and picked one of those that I liked even more than

Andrew Wilsonnursing so the thing is is like even if that's true in this comparison it would not demonstrate at all that women are more nurturing because they choose the

Bella Cakesnursing they would demonstrate that saying so you so you think that women have high nurturing compared to like intelligence like their relative int

Andrew Wilsonfrom their from their relative position fair enough yeah I think so but I don't think that their capacity for it is supersedes that of men I've never thought this I will agree to disagree

Bella CakesI've never thought by the way well but based on what show me logically demonstrate for me how how it's true because there isn't really like a study that can be done because the studies that you're showing me aren't

Bella Cakesnecessarily like demonstrating nurturing like that can be demonstrating like you said like how do you demonstrate it you I mean it's like it would be hard to demonstrate it through research I think it's like look at like animals for example like how they treat their young

Andrew Wilsonlike how they treat their offspring like usually it's the mom taking care of the baby but in animals I would argue that's a mechanism these are mechanisms not intuitive rational decisions are we not anal think it's Instinct as well for

Hedywhen when a yeah I think it's child stop stop hey hold on she you've been talking a bunch go ahead I was just going to say I think it's um Instinct as well when a when a woman gives birth to be you know nurturing and

Andrew Wilsoncaretaking of her child I agree that women have mechanisms for nurturing but women also have higher faculties for reason they can offset feelings and

Andrew Wilsonemotion also with reason they have higher intelligence than animals do so just saying that well okay they're biology kicks in uh there's also a downside with this that men don't have

Andrew Wilsonfor instance like postpartum depression where moms terminate their children terminate themselves all sorts of chemicals get released which cause significant damage towards the kid it's

Andrew Wilsonlike I'm still not even willing to concede that even the day baby born um all that chemicals are released into Mommy that this means that they're going to be a more nurturing parent than the

Andrew Wilsonfather I'm just unwilling to concede this unless it's demonstrated to me Ally or otherwise there's just no way by which you're you

Hedyknow by which you're um deciding that a baby's needs are met or a child's needs are met like just like the basic necessities I think there's also emotional support as well that is often times um provided more by the mother

Andrew Wilsonthan the father yeah I dispute that so I think I think that women really put an over emphasis on femininity when it comes to child rearing and they really shouldn't in fact I think that they

Andrew Wilsonindulge children far too much I think that they uh spoil them far too much I think that they give in to their emotional demands far too much and I would say that's counterintuitive in

Andrew Wilsonfact to caretaking and uh you know to nurturing I think that's counterintuitive to it that's why you see single moms with these big fat kids for instance it's because they're overindulge let them have theet okay but

Alissaalso that's why a lot of us are single moms cuz the mother overindulged her son and like enabled his [ __ ] [ __ ] and then now he doesn't know how to like correct properly fun is responsibility I

Andrew Wilsonconsider I consider these things no I don't think that that's because you do these kind of overindulgences that that's actually nurturing I when I think of nurturing I think of this right when you leave you're equipped to deal with

Andrew Wilsonthe world you're equipped to deal with the world that's nurturing anything else you tell me external to that right is going to be counterintuitive because if it's not preparing them to do well in

Toria Brookethe world then what then then how's it nurturing here's where I'll agree with is a thing too here's where I'll agree with you with a caveat I think the thing that women are better than men at doing is manipulation and that's why you see

Toria Brookeso many female Executives at the top that's why you see the CIA hiring you see the CIA hiring more women there's honeypots women can manipulate and they can actually make they can actually stop let her finish they can actually make

Toria Brookemen think that something's their idea when it's really the woman's idea that's why you see divorces happen when there's someone that comes in to try to like basically Jezebel spirit him to try to make him you know come to her um so I

Toria Brookeagree with you that maybe women aren't as nurturing but if you want to talk about preparing kids to be out in the world some successful single mothers do a good job because they teach their kids how to be analytical how to predict

Andrew Wilsonthings before they happen and how to prepare yourself for adversity that is the biggest load of hor [ __ ] that I've ever heard let me dispute all of this one one at a time first of all no they're not better manipulation manipul

Andrew Wilsonpart of manipulation is is strategy the best strategists in the world are men they're men and he can't be a great strategist unless you understand the machinations of the enemy can't understand the machinations of the enemy if you can't understand manipulation so

Andrew Wilsonno they're still over here like oh no women are better so I'm still I'm still going to give even kind of disagree I'm still even going to give manipulation uh to men I think that men are the the the better spies I think that men are even

Andrew Wilsonbetter at manipulation when you're talking seduction right I still don't even think that they have the market on seduction I think that men will just [ __ ] them but they would [ __ ] them anyway I think if you told them you were

Andrew Wilsona spy they'd still do it right cuz they just want to you know what I'll tell you your wife's probably a genius right so the thing is but backing it up from there um if you're talking about kind of

Andrew Wilsonout in the world I I I would love to know how you think single moms better prepare their children I didn't say that they are the only ones that do I said the successful

Toria Brookesingle moms who have to be in that situation that aren't necessarily nurturing in the feminine way that you're talking about where they might cudle they might give them tough love and say listen this is the way the world is and this is how I'm going to prepare

Andrew Wilsonyou well then they were taking on they'd be taking on more masculine roles right and he still wouldn't have demonstrated they're more nurturing only that they're more masculine well well in in regards to how you describe nurturing where they're more equipped to deal with the

Alissaworld like I cuz I can tell you because I have to do both roles I'm far less coddling and like you know I'm more kind of like strict and this is what you need to have the skills to have people like

Alissayou which is important to socially integrate and things like of that nature which Peterson talks about but you're definitely right like because we have to play both roles how you describe

Andrew Wilsonnurturing we can be more prone to being that type of nurturing as opposed to like oh I'm at home I don't have to worry about anything I can just be in a good mood and I'll just grant that it's

Andrew Wilsonso that you can do this this still would not demonstrate that women are better or more equipped for it than men so again my initial argument would still stand that there's a whole slew of [ __ ] that I

Jamiecan point out that men are way better at than women but I don't think women can point out a damn thing are not better than wi fertility rates going down in men and um by 2070 I think the the world

TTS Readermic Plastics no not as much as men oh no just as much let me in fact let's take a look and well met L donated $200 and2

TTS Readerdisagree with Andrew about men being better at everything women are better narcissists than men women are better emotional manipulators than men women are better Liars than men women are

Andrew Wilsonbetter well listen I'm just going to point this out L paladins very quickly and you're going to send another Super Chat agreeing with me with training men would even be better at all of those things so um anyway back to this thank

Andrew Wilsonyou la Paladin right back to this and uh and these ideas um you were you were saying sorry just saying how fertility rates in men are going down yeah they're going down in women too you know why because women are

Andrew Wilsongetting married at 3132 due to like the food n chemicals no it's just cuz you're getting married at 3132 and we can't say it's just because of that come on microplastics are definitely proven to sure okay sure everything's a [ __ ]

Andrew Wilsoncorrelate the oxygen in the plant the oxygen in the air that's a coret somehow I'm sure but you have strong correlates you have weak correlates so let me just give you the strongest correlate at 32 years old you've left behind most of

Andrew Wilsonyour childbearing years yeah yeah you're 35 yeah no well 32 32 yeah your your your most fertile years

Andrew Wilsonwhat uh 18 19 through about 20 27 28 they're all gone behind you right so they have one two kids that's about it so that's I mean to say that female

Andrew Wilsonfertility is not drastically decreasing is absurd it's not because it needs to it well a lot of women don't want to have kids yeah like nowadays too yeah so that would be a great reduction in

Andrew Wilsonfertility right yeah but I mean men more men are becoming actually infertile even if they want to have kids sure well first of allar there's not that many men who are infertile that's one but two

Andrew Wilsoneven if that were the case why saying it like that infertile intile infertile even if that were the case infertile even if that were the case that um that

Andrew Wilsonwomen were just choosing it that's still infertility it's just by choice it's just by choice so it's like who cares if you're fertile if you're not breeding it doesn't it makes no sense who cares okay hot take care but I think

Alissamen are more nurturing in relationships too I do think so we have so much freedom to be as [ __ ] as we want to our partners but like some of you and

Alissawell for some reason some of you do for some reason I think I think you probably Grant your wife a decent amount of rope to be kind of [ __ ] to you something just tells me

Alissayou would think incorrectly maybe but okay but from like literally not only just my experiences but observing relationships with other people like you know we do have more

Alissaleeway to be kind of shitty like we can we can do the stonewalling we can do the you know we can blow up and like oh you know we have more excuses as to and you know like we have periods whatever

Alissawhatever it's more socially acceptable for us to be abusive in various ways to men than it is for them to be to us and I can tell you I've left all my relationships like this is something

Alissathat I've reflected on and noticed in myself that I tend to be more flighty and like the men tend to be more steadfast so I I do I actually do agree that men are more nurturing yeah in a

Brian Atlaslot of ways I got a question not just to agree with you because I will argue with you but wait we can't argue with the truth yeah wait just going around the table

Backgroundthis is kind of somewhat related but kind of random uh are you pro-choice or pro-life I'm pro-choice pro-choice

Brian Atlaspro-choice pro life pro- life pro life life so wait pro-choice pro-choice pro-choice life life life wait you three

Brian Atlasweren't you guys the uh the most strongly arguing that women are better nurturers yes no no I I agreed that they're she she wasn't yeah oh well that's a

Alissaargument to me like I don't think that but you don't think it's murder right no okay but how can you debate that okay so like just to play devil's advocate here we don't we can't say that that's not a good example because we don't know what men would do in that scenario because we

Andrew Wilsondon't have stats on it because it's not possible yeah well actually we do yeah well I mean we can we can at least infer right so here's how we can infer because

Alissamen vote against it and women vote for it but men are often pushing for it so like what they vote for may not be the same as what they're doing in their real lives no some men push for it I mean

Andrew Wilsonsome men push for these things I concede that that is true but collectively they vote against it so if collectively they're voting against it we should be able to kind of infer from that that they likely would not be doing it but

TTS Readeronce again they don't know what it's like to be pregnant so they the fact that they vote against it doesn't say much glavius donated $200 chat would you rather get a massage

TTS Readerfrom from a gay man or surgery from a female doctor serious surgery so basically would you rather get a massage or

Andrew Wilsondie Andrew J do you want to answer this one um I'm getting the uh surgery are you are you okay are you doing okay M oh my God are you

Andrew Wilsonsure uh cuz usually people who ask if you're okay aren't okay oh I think that's true actually I love the reference no that's true because like because a lot of wait wait did you see

Toria Brookethe Cala tweet about asking if Trump was okay okay okay thank you thank you for that thank you for that reference wait what did she take that pro-abortion lunatic he just made a reference to a tweet that Kamal Harris made earlier

Alissatalking about Trump she was being snarky or her HQ is being snarky saying are you okay or is he okay oh man meanwhile he's the only one who's talk econom like most psychiatrists and stuff are like deeply

Andrew Wilsonscrewed up yes yes yes they are so they want to help other people cuz they get it fair and they don't because they're crazy but anyway yeah so so back to this um you were asking about proo I don't

Brian Atlasknow where you're going with that so well I I it's like when this whole thing of women are more nurturing but it's like well it's hard to debate if

Alissaabortion is murder y'all be killing your baby yeah but we don't think it's murder that's the whole point and if men had to get pregnant maybe they would vote a little bit different ly uh well yeah I mean the reality is is

Brian Atlasthat men can't get pregnantly it's not a good argument it is a good argument it's a good argument um I'm curious though actually we maybe we'll I don't really want to

Brian Atlashave an abortion convo but perhaps later on in the show um where did this all stem from I I feel like you did your disagreement about she asked him if he could say what he likes about women and

Andrew Wilsonhe was like there's one thing that they can do better than us and that I still never got actual argument at all for how that wasn't true just just pointing that out well I think also our society today

Hedyum oppresses women's natural tendencies towards nurturing and caretaking I do think it's something that's not um celebrated as much and it's women are you know encouraged to be is there anything else we can celebrate women for

Andrew Wilsonno but I think that women are encouraged to be more you know like so [ __ ] insufferable it's just so ins can we celebrate more [ __ ] no I don't mean by I don't mean celebrate

Andrew Wilsonbut I mean it's not encouraged I agree with that I agree that um that women are being pushed into all I grew up in Los Angeles and I grew up you know kind of I'm 30 now but around the time that I was in high

Hedyschool and college I was all of my teachers were kind of trying to you know discourage you know young motherhood and talking about you know you know higher education and and going into fields that

Hedywere like girl boss and and it's just not something that you know women were not were not being taught you know how to be mothers and how to be caretakers as much as we were in the past that was something that was taught often in the

Alissa1950s and 40s and it's true so it's definitely hard to be more nurturing in today's society oh

TTS ReaderGlock $2 ladies would you date Brian on one hand he is tall six foot one blue eyes Rich sometimes funny successful but he

TTS Readerhas a dead B probably autistic has a weird liking for big lady outies and a small

Brian Atlaspeee first off that last part's not true it's average it's average first off uh you guys don't have to answer this [ __ ]

Alissalet us answer you scared all right go ahead go ahead um probably yeah probably I don't know if you tried to dominate me too much like then not cuz you said something

Alissaabout bowing and I'm not doing that sh [ __ ] that's [ __ ] crazy but other other than that we'll do the B video I would say yeah probably okay no no I'm

Brian Atlassure I played the fifth that's oh my Go Married she's married she's married she can all right thank you how you going to Bro [ __ ] come on let's get the views all

Brian Atlasright uh got pooped this is a great conversation but why is it when it's poo poo time it's PP time but when it's PP time it isn't always poo poo time hey you were on you were here on Sunday

Brian Atlasright you were here on Sunday thank you man appreciate the uh the uh tip thank you man we had L Paladin's already come through and then we have a message from got booped again he

Brian Atlassays is somebody like shaking the table with their leg can somebody stop uh who runs the world's markets with Finance you think women are better why aren't they running the stock

Brian Atlasmarket okay I don't know cuz men are better at Finance well women aren't as interested in it okay all right got poop thank you and then we

Brian Atlashave well paladins you're right with training men would be better manipulators but women do it via genetic programming like Bane versus Batman a

Brian Atlasman would merely be adopting the darkness women are born in it molded by it oh we need Andrew here so he can do the Bane voice here L pal I'll pull it

Brian Atlasback up uh I'll pull it pack up once we get to that let's pull up twitch guys go to twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub that's twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow on

Brian Atlasthe prime sub guys if you can get can we get to uh 92,500 followers uh for today's show if we can that's our that's our Milestone goal for

Brian Atlasfor twitch and then like the video guys and then also just a reminder Reed is

Brian Atlas100 TTS is 200 if you guys want to get something in we've got the legal defense

Brian Atlasfund that uh we're uh building for so uh let's see uh going I guess continuing on uh or did you have another disagreement

Brian Atlaswith anything you no any dating topics you want to speak

Yekaon no okay uh any disagreements from you um on anything I guess like a dating topic would be like a lot of things uh

Brian Atlaswrong with modern relationships is just lack of putting God first okay so that's dating topic nothing for disagreements though not necessarily uh Toria anything

Toria Brookefor you overall communication issues that the nuclear family has obviously been destroyed but also communication as a whole okay anything for you um

Hedydisagreements I dis agree with the term tradwife I want to say I just kind of reject that in general I think it's not an aesthetic I think it's become kind of like a fun term to use but I don't think

Hedyit necessarily um the things I think that the the aesthetic is not what a Trad wife is and I just reject the idea

Brian AtlasAl together okay um and then dating uh dating things you want to speak on not yet okay I have all your pre-show Notes too we'll get into that uh so okay you

Hedyagree with the you don't think the Trad wife exists no I think the term is trendy as a I think that it's trendy um to describe someone as a tradwife who

Hedyyou know likes to dress in 1950s attire and you know films themselves cooking but it doesn't have really anything to do with what a traditional wife is and I think a lot of the people who claim to be Trad wives or they want to be Trad

Brian Atlaswives aren't necessarily doing traditional things so would be okay all right take sure uh so let's get into the pre-show notes then or actually you know

Brian Atlaswhat before we do that stiffler's been dying to come in ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead I think over on like a seven okay um I'll give myself

Brian Atlasa 7.5 seven eight I'm not rating myself I I'll give you a $2 bill get yourself you know how much that's worth

Brian Atlasyou know how much this is worth that's a lot how much more than $2 have you ever had a $2 bill you can just get them from the have you ever had a $2 bill it's crisp too it's like fresh

Brian Atlasfrom the bank it's a fresh fresh one crisp right the bank look at that look how good it looks right next to you it could be yours I can't be bought sir but thank you for the offer

Andrew Wilsonit's you know I'll take the $22 Bill and rate myself no I rate my what about you 10 from my husband 10

Toria Brookefrom your husband yeah wait you want to rers come on come on I tend to rate myself more on the intelligence scale I don't really view myself like that so intelligence

Brian Atlasintelligence skeleton okay and then what about the looks one yeah I snuck that in I'm not partip I snuck it in you can't buy me with a $2 bill sorry wait can I

Brian Atlasask you one question though we we can do a $3 bill is it because you you're you think you're a 10 but you don't want to say you're a 10 or

Toria Brookeis that it I think that a scale is subjective based on each person's idea of what agree so your subjective metric what would it

Toria Brookebe I mean I'm fearfully and wonderfully made so in God's eyes I'm a 10 but I'm not going to in God's eyes everyone would be I'm not gonna um rate myself

Andrew Wilsonbased on some semantic scale that is differentiates between people well it's not it's not really a semantic scale it's just it's just a subjective

Andrew WilsonScale based on okay let's phrase it this way okay let's try it a different way because you your intelligence is a 10 so you'll get this quick let's say you had 100 men and all of them were given a 1

Andrew Wilsonto 10 chart and they had to come by and rate you what do you think the average would

Andrew Wilsonbe I don't need to give my answer you don't well you don't you don't you don't need to but we're wondering what it would

Andrew Wilsonbe like if you had to guess I'm definitely I'm definitely an eight or above you think that they would scale you at an eight or above yes okay all

Brian Atlasright oh do sorry Morgan Morgan Morgan seven wait you said 10 your husband

Alissahusband well what's your own self rating cuz four four Girl by why uhuh no ma no ma' not at all don't even say that don't

Alissaeven say that why humble you can be humble and recognize your cheekbones and your jawline right and your blue eyes come on um I don't know I don't I don't you

Brian Atlasdon't think you're pretty no I think I'm pretty so then why wouldn't you rate yourself above average eight there we go there we go Morgan pure pressure seven I

Brian Atlassaid seven oh sorry Andrew I'm a 10 for sure oh okay yeah yeah I I give myself a five five yeah

Brian Atlasfive thank you oh and then going around the table do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time go ahead no

Brian Atlasokay and then your 28 now were you better looking 10 years ago at 18 no I actually look better now but I don't think it's going to keep going that way

Brian Atlasyeah yeah really can we Austin maybe scroll down on the IG okay you are 21 will you be better looking in 10 years time at 31 no uh you're 24 will you be better

Brian Atlaslooking in 10 years time at 34 no idea if I'll even be here what but but assuming you were

Brian Atlashere maybe maybe not wait do you have terminal cancer or what no you mean in the podcast Studio you

Brian Atlaswon't be here in 10 years I plan to sit here for 10 years this podcast probably won't be here in 10 years time either but uh canceled by the woke overlords at

JamieYouTube but uh when I'm 34 probably you have probably not I don't know though wait you probably won't be alive at 34 I mean I don't know if I'll be better looking

Brian Atlasat 34 oh yeah I don't know if I'll be did you say I won't be here yeah I don't know if I'll be here none of us know none of

Brian Atlasus wait so if somebody asks you a hypothetical question that's very dark oh hypothetical in one year's time and your response would just be well I could be hit by a train tomorrow so I just

Andrew Wilsoncan't answer the question yeah I can't answer the hypothetical what about like what are you doing this weekend no wonder you're between jobs cuz you go in and you're like they're like okay so how long do you plan on staying here like well I don't know I mean tomorrow my car

Andrew Wilsoncould bre die I could die yeah I mean there's no way for me to really give you a commitment to this job right uh you're going to be here we have uh do we have

Brian Atlasyes the Instagram yeah yeah we'll pull it up all right so this is you 10 years ago okay but those are like not good example I don't know if it's click on that one where she's hiding behind the

Alissatree okay show one with my that's 2014 so this was 11 years ago right but that's not how I look usually like scroll up a little bit I don't ever wear makeup scroll a little bit scroll up a little bit there you go there you go

Brian Atlaslook at that [ __ ] wait um oh up a little bit my teeth were all messed up click on the one above that one I mean they're like Blurry you have

Alissato go back a little bit cameras have improved a lot in 10 years uh I mean you look it's you I got my t

Alissastarted taking care of my skin better um like I don't smoke Black and Milds all the time now I feel like you like I think you were better looking I don't

Bella Cakeswhat I think you were you were better looking what do you think is better looking about her back then she looks younger in what way like I think she looks the same to be honest she looks

Brian Atlasvery similar no your cheeks are are popping out more now you they are and I got my teeth fixed is that like a woman thing is that like a woman thing like the the cheeks

Brian Atlasthing yeah but you guys do realize that men I've gotten complimented by men more about the cheekbones yeah you do

Brian Atlasrealize that like sharp features on a woman seems like I'm a [ __ ] yeah no that's not what I'm talking about at all whoa no cuz that's a thing that they say

Brian Atlasnow okay yeah they're not sh it's it's like a whole viral thing yeah but okay so this idea that men like really like

Brian Atlaschiseled faces in women men will have men will accept more rounded soft features and it'll be attractive and it'll and also sharp

Brian Atlasfeatures can also still be attractive but this idea that oh I had a little baby fat or my face was a bit round I it's like attracted to that not what I'm saying but if but okay objective if you

Alissalook at the hottest celebrities the mo what most people are drawn to right the Angelina and Jolie the Megan foxes they have more short features but that's beside the point I didn't say that I just know that my

Alissateeth are better now my skin is clearer now um well maybe not right now cuz I just quit smoking is some like purging but typically um also I'm like in way

Alissabetter shape despite having had kids now and I have boobs now and I didn't have them before before kids um so I mean I I do just generally but y'all aren't

Brian Atlasreally looking at all pict I'll send y'all some okay all right uh what about you you are 35 better looking in 10 years time uh no probably not or the

Brian Atlassame okay and you're 35 uh were you better looking at 25 no actually so you're better looking now at 35 okay all right and then Toria you're 31 better

Toria Brookelooking in 10 years time well I'm better looking now than I was 10 years ago and I age like fine one so I'm gonna say I look better wait so I will look better in another 10 years okay so better looking

Brian Atlasat 41 versus now at 31 and you're better looking now at 31 than you were at 21 what about 20 years time so 51 versus now well depending on how you know good the plastic surgery gets and how better

Toria Brookeour food supply is after Robert AF Kennedy revises our terrible FDA hopefully abolishes the FDA um yeah it might look better I don't know relatively speaking for a what the 51

Brian Atlasyear old yeah I might look better than most 51y olds now and then 30 years time so 61 versus 31 same thing we got to see what happens with all this on

Toria Brookebioengineering 40 years time at 71 again I'm speaking relatively to the age group that we're talking about versus now yes I still think I'll look better at that

Andrew Wilsonage than the people that are see what you're saying okay yeah yeah so would you look better to men who are in your current age bracket when you're 90 no okay what about when you're 80 no

Andrew WilsonAbsol 70 no okay 50 I know some pretty good looking people in that range I'm not saying this there's not good looking 50 year olds of

Toria Brookecourse there are I'm talking all relatives so no obviously you're younger now okay what about

Andrew Wilson40 you're saying men might now yeah well there's a lot of younger guys going for older women so while they're going to have sex with them they're not going to marry

Toria Brookethem so seen some I've seen I've seen some interesting cases but I mean yes obv obviously biologically speaking you look better now why you trying to hurt

Brian Atlasour feelings not he's not hurting my feelings at all in you're 30 do you think it'll be better looking in 10 years time at 40 by

Hedywhat I deem attractive yes but probably not to my husband maybe okay and then 20 years time at 50 no and then you're 30 now are you better looking now at 30

Hedythan you were at 20 yeah I had a I'm someone who stores baby fat in my cheeks and I just personally don't like that look so I think I look better now can we pull up everybody else's Throwbacks man

Brian Atlaslike why you don't do that to me uh do we have any of the things from the Discord cuz you're being quarrelsome so we want to pick on you extra I feel like I'm being doile joking Jing I'm assuming

Brian Atlasthey were able to do some of them uh so the Discord has I none yet uh anybody in the Discord if you guys can age everybody

Brian Atlasforward let's see how they all look when they're old and wrinkly and decrepit decrepit decrepit and this is

Brian Atlasgiving me such bad anxiety ancient let's see let's get into the pre-show notes Here so we have uh let's

Brian Atlassee oh we have dating app review too why don't we do and they're all

Brian Atlasclean is it a photo or prompt from

Brian Atlaswho MH uh and what is it is there nudity or

Brian Atlasshe it's a photo you said right oh yeah just X out of it we're not going to show that one okay uh why don't we do the dating app

Andrew Wilsonreview oh let's wait until she's not at the table so every time what do you mean it's like every time you bring up one of these the

Andrew Wilsonwoman is somehow missing from the right yeah every time we have some from Melissa right oh God all right can you read the profile

Alissathis is your you want read it y based god um I value intellect above all I typically will not engage in small talk but if you want to talk space travel psychology philosophy Etc I'll

Alissaprobably bite um my type is nerds or homesteaders My love language is acts of service so if you're lazy or don't have your [ __ ] together we won't Vibe um don't let my looks confuse you I do not do hookup culture and I for sure have a

Brian Atlastouch of theism LMAO my insta is something like Clementine message me there because I don't check this okay and you have a touch of the tism and you don't do when you say you

Alissadon't do hookup culture what does that mean yeah so I'm not just like trying to sleep with a bunch of randoms um like I'm looking for a real relationship that

Alissabecomes marriage and more babies hopefully so like I kind of vet people pretty harshly okay uh when when you say you

Alissavet people harshly what do you mean uh like I there's you know like you I'll get the ick very quickly um not

Alissathe I yeah the ick like there's been guys that I liked but they were super lazy or they don't clean up after themselves or you know just they're not intelligent

Alissaum I'm not picky about because I see you guys debate things like someone's looks I don't care how tall you are or you don't have to make like a [ __ ] ton of

Alissamoney um but for me it's more like just being an organized and rational human

Alissawho I think could probably survive the apocalypse with me um I but if he if he was organized and rational wouldn't his

Andrew Wilsonbest chance of surviving the apocalypse to be not with you well sure cuz I have dependence so that is definitely going to so then how could he be rational if he's going to survive the apocalypse with you but he might have kids with

Alissaanybody else but I mean and also I don't like so I objectively do not care if a guy is not interested in a woman who has kids I think that's fair yeah like I really do that doesn't hurt my ego I

Brian Atlasdon't good we don't align yeah um but yeah but so you don't hook up or you don't engage in hookup culture but you used to

Alissanot really no like I've had a series of pretty like semi-long relationships with like few dating situations that didn't work out in between but never just like

Brian Atlasat casual sex with no aim of dating mhm and we have more from her right I'll read uh okay uh uh can you read the prom three TV

Alissashows I love um the office Black Mirror The Magicians my personality type is in in P my favorite book is Cosmos by Carl Sean that's it that's what says

Brian Atlasnext next okay next next are there more promps or is this pretty much it is there another photo

Brian Atlasor okay yeah

Brian Atlasdon't worry oh okay all right um okay that was your dating

Brian Atlasprofile what I'm not impressed by your performance all right who's who we got next who got next I put my dating profile

Brian Atlasyep the way to win me over is showing me your letter boxed that's a movie writing site app yes all right I'll have you read the prompts next next my therapist would say I need to

Brian Atlaswork on my daddy issues H okay so not only do you have daddy issues but you also see a therapist yes how many how many different therapists have you had two I

Bella CakesI've I had one when I was I actually just started seeing a therapist recently so what what is daddy issues what does that mean oh well I that's like a whole can of worms I don't have a dad um okay

Bella CakesI never had a dad so yeah

Bella Cakesnext that's the wrong one wait I didn't send you another one yeah there were no other prompts I think there was oh I oh yeah I think there was

Brian Atlasbut it might not have sent cuz I think yeah I see yeah I see the one yeah it's just yeah it's okay we don't have to show that one and then we have one from her

Brian Atlasyeah oh I like yours well instantly hit it off you try to live biblically you strive to be better every day you like conspiracies okay next can you read this for us I wish

Yekamore people knew that there are still a few real men and women left in the world men who want to provide protect and adore their women and women who want to nurture respect and please their men mhm and then my Instagram's eat meat Queen

Brian Atlasall right um looking for monogamy dating to Mary dating to Mary okay

Yekanext next next we're the same type of weird if you eat lots of beef you're not political because you know it's all show if you

Yekaremain poke free from the recent scamdemic my God if you want someone to grow with and be a power couple all right next I go crazy for strong men

Yekaphysically mentally and spiritually meat lovers and fluoride avoiders men without pronouns in their profile men who can lead in every part of life and men who

Brian Atlastry to live biblically okay uh is I think that's it right or is there another one no I think I think that's it right one

Brian Atlasokay yeah that's fine all right those are all the dating apps chat do you swipe yes or do you swipe no or do you swipe no or do you swipe yes thank you guys uh let's see we have more pre-show notes Here we did the

Brian Atlasdating app review uh we had oh we got to I'll have to do that next week uh okay that is not

Brian Atlastrue I didn't even know that was was a thing actually but I've gotten a few messages about it yeah but it's not it's not true you said you've dated a lot of your bosses and had secret relationships

Brian Atlaswith them for a time until it was uncovered it was a pattern of yours for a while so like when you're working at the strip club did you no the owner okay when I was a correctional officer I did

Alissaand like restaurant jobs but you you worked in a prison I worked at a correctional officer at the same time that I was a dancer but you were a

Alissastripper yes stripper coo yes a CO yeah is that aren't there some like there there's a conflict of interest yeah so some on aren't there some like

Brian Atlaslike police officers have to conduct themselves in a matter becoming of the office or I don't know the exact terminology but yeah so I didn't like go put on my job application that I was a

Alissadancer in a cuz so where I worked was 2 hours away um and actually how I learned about the job is cuz there was two lesbians that would come in the strip club and they were like you should come

Alissawork with us and I was like okay so I did and the benefits were great but the pay was only $12.99 an hour so I just supplemented on like weekends at the uh strip club yeah I'm going to read this

Brian Atlasfrom LA paladins to tell if a woman is going to hook up is if she explicitly tells you we are not hooking up when she comes over to your house if she wasn't thinking about it she wouldn't bring it up PS Bane please that's right thank you

Brian Atlasfor the reminder L pal so Andrew while you're gone L palad then sent in a message he wants you to read this do you know Bane from Batman yeah can you do it

Andrew Wilsonin the Bane voice the Bane voice yeah uh I'll try okay here we go all right Batman with I can't do it

Brian Atlasno I can't do it dude I can't do it here how about just this with training men would better manipulators but women do it via genetic programming like Bane vers Batman what if I what if I did it in the Palpatine voice could ask him if

Andrew Wilsonwe could do in the palpa just the end part just that that last I'll pull it back up starting at like Bane vers Batman after that like Bane vers Batman a man would merely be adopting the

Andrew Wilsondarkness women are born to it they're molded by it why does that sound kind of like Jordan Peterson what oh he sounds like Kermit the Frog he sounds like Kermit the Frog no he kind of sounds

Andrew Wilsonlike Winnie the Pooh well today we're going to talk about philosophy that's not a terrible that's so bad uh I thought it was pretty I thought it was pretty good uh let hermit the frog

Brian Atlasis what he sounds like you uh want to go over the body count thing we debated last time uh you made a PLL on your Instagram so it uh

Brian Atlaswould be dope to go over that you agree body count matters you were playing Devil's Advocate last time but I do think it's not the deal breaker you guys think it is or that some guys even claim

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