Feral Girl KICKED OUT Who Wants Brian KlLLED Like Charlie Kirk?! Feminism DEBATE! | Dating Talk #264

Date: 2025-10-13
Duration: 7h 59m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Ailia Purr(guest)
SPEAKER_03V (Van/April)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Claire(guest)
SPEAKER_05Felicity(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Olivia (VA)(guest)
SPEAKER_10Rachel (Yoga)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Tina(guest)
SPEAKER_13Lindsay (Med Device)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Janette(guest)

Key Moments

00:05:02
IntroAll guests introduce themselves
00:09:46
ControversyAilia admits to porn at 16 with fake ID
02:23:45
ControversyAilia red-carded: wouldn't be surprised if Brian got shot like Charlie Kirk
03:18:00
Key MomentBrian vs V: extended feminism definition debate (~80 min)
06:43:00
Key MomentRachel: married guitarist, divorced, married lead singer of same band
07:42:00
Key MomentV's ectopic pregnancy at 19 in drug rehab

Topics Discussed

00:05:02
Guest Introductions

9 guests. Ailia admits to porn at 16 with fake ID.

02:23:45
Ailia Ejection

Red-carded after Charlie Kirk death threat comment and underage porn admission.

02:31:48
Pasty George iPhone Gift

$2,000 donation for iPhone 17 Pro, unboxed on stream.

03:18:00
Feminism Definition Debate

Brian vs V: ~80 min debate on feminism, advocacy vs equality.

07:42:00
V Ectopic Pregnancy Story

Pregnant at 19 in rehab. Ex threatened to block her if she didn't abort.

Transcript

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04:51:26
V (Van/April)control. >> It's just oopsie. Let somebody make birth control more accessible in tuba. >> Birth control is free >> accessible. It's not free. >> Yes, it is. If you don't have health
04:51:36
V (Van/April)insurance, thousand% free >> at Planned Parenthood, it's around $15 to $300. You can literally get it for free. >> You can get it for free. >> Hold on really quick though. the the
04:51:47
Brian Atlasoverlying thing here is if we're talking about equal rights, so I I don't I kind of fail to see how it relates to equal rights because while you might say it's
04:51:59
Brian Atlaslike a woman's advocacy thing, men don't have any reproductive rights. So >> what's the in Well, when we're talking about equal rights, equal to who? Equal to men. So the comparison you have to
04:52:11
Brian Atlasmake is well, hold on. You would agree that men can't under law force women to get abortions, right? >> Men can't force women to get abortions. >> Men can't force women to You agree,
04:52:23
Brian Atlasright? >> By law. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Technically, it's possible the guy could be a [ __ ] abuser, [ __ ] drag an abortion clinic and like >> which would even work because they can't even come in the room.
04:52:36
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. It's like if you want to take that legally by law, no. Like I asked by law, that's all. Yes or no? >> That's I said that. Okay. Can Can a man in a state where women can get
04:52:49
Brian Atlasabortions, can he force the woman to keep the child? >> Can he force the woman? >> Yeah. So in California, let's say I knock up my girlfriend. Can I and she wants to get an abortion. Can I force
04:53:01
Brian Atlasher to not get >> in California? No. >> Yeah. In fact, probably in no state really. Men don't have a say. So this isn't has anything to do with equal
04:53:12
Brian Atlasrights because the only way the only way you could have equal rights would be >> men would have to have some reproductive
04:53:22
Brian Atlassay and they don't >> men definitely like have well >> no we don't have a say there's no legal say when we're talking about rights we're talking about um legal rights
04:53:34
V (Van/April)>> in reds yeah so in states where abortion is illegal >> what states is abortion illegal. Texas, Idaho, I believe. >> Okay, that's fine. Those states, whatever. We'll grant that there states you can't Women can't get abortions.
04:53:48
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, >> men in those states, they can't force a woman to get abortion. They can't force a woman to keep the child. So, what does that have to do with equal rights?
04:54:01
Brian Atlas>> How about this? It would >> I'm s I made a point. No, no. This would be unequal in a red state if a man could tell his woman, >> "You have to get an abort. You You go
04:54:13
Brian Atlasget an abortion." And he could force her to do it and she couldn't choose to get an abortion like on her own. The man had to give her permission. >> That would be unequal rights >> with tubiligation. If you have a
04:54:27
V (Van/April)partner, >> you're all over the place. Hello. >> Um, that's an example in reproductive rights. That's like >> force a woman to get tubilation. >> No, but they can be the reason she isn't allowed to. >> That's false.
04:54:40
Brian Atlas>> That's not true. >> It's not true. >> That's false. >> It's not true. >> Doctors will refuse tubilation to some women because of >> I think so here's what I think is true.
04:54:51
Brian AtlasI think when a young woman wants to be sterilized, some doctors are hesitant to do the procedure and perhaps like I don't think a lot of doc I don't know the details maybe some women here on on
04:55:04
Brian Atlasthe medical field I think a lot of doctors who would otherwise uh give a woman a two like sterilization procedures they might be hesitant to sterilize like an 18-year-old woman.
04:55:15
Tina>> I think there's actually an age range with that. I think it's 20 or 27. we change our minds unfortunately especially as we start to go deeper into our biological clock
04:55:26
Tina>> the thought of oh I should have a baby I should this is what really what I'm like made to do I'm made to have children and
04:55:35
Tinato get a tubation at 18 it's much harder to reverse a tubiligation than it is a vasectomy >> that's why men are more easily
04:55:46
Tinaaccessible to that but no you do not need your husband your partner your dad your brother to give you the consent for tubiligation. Yes, you will go to the doctor and they might not do it right
04:55:57
Brian Atlasthen and there because they want you to really weigh the pros and cons of it, >> but there's related to equal rights, men don't have reproductive rights. The
04:56:08
Brian Atlasonly like obviously there's no scenario where a men a man should have a really have a say in either direction, right? Like a man shouldn't have a say, but
04:56:18
Brian Atlaslike perhaps the man could like perhaps the equitable thing would be if a woman can get an abortion, a man should say, "Oh, well, if you want to keep the child
04:56:29
Brian Atlasand the man doesn't want the kid, he can relinquish his uh child support duties and parental rights. It's called legal paternal surrender, but that doesn't even exist." So, for example, a
04:56:39
Brian Atlassituation where uh Brad knocks up Stacy at the club and she wants to keep the kid and he he just wanted a casual casual sex.
04:56:50
Brian AtlasShe can force him to pay child support for 18 years and he didn't want to have the kid. So there the perhaps the equitable equality that could exist
04:57:01
Brian Atlaswould be well in states where women do have abortion rights men can relinquish parental responsibility but even that doesn't exist. So there's not an
04:57:13
Brian Atlasequality that can be achieved really. Well currently there's no equality. So that women not having rights to actually for equality to this is
04:57:25
Brian Atlasactually a funny example. You know how we were talking earlier about feminists won't fight for equality. >> Yeah. >> So this would technically be a form of equality. In order for women to be equal
04:57:36
Brian Atlasto men since men have no reproductive rights. Technically the equality that
04:57:41
Brian Atlasyou could achieve would be nationwide abortion ban. Since men can't
04:57:51
Brian Atlasuh since men can't escape fatherhood, the only form of equality that you could really achieve would be to make women be incapable of escaping
04:58:03
Brian Atlasmotherhood. So you'd have to have nationwide abortion ban and that would that would technically be equal. That would create equality between men and women. You're looking at me all confused, but logically this sounds
04:58:15
Brian Atlas>> ridiculous. Well, hold on. I'm not, just to be clear, I'm not advocating right now currently on a position on abortion. >> Yeah. >> But your standard is feminist fight for
04:58:26
Brian Atlasequality. So if if men lack reproductive rights, you either need to give men reproductive rights or for there to be equality, I know you
04:58:37
Brian Atlasmight not like that form of equality. Women, no woman in the entire nation could get an abortion. And that's equal. You gonna fight for that then?
04:58:50
Brian Atlas>> Don't aren't you feminist? Don't you want equality? >> That's still literally >> But hold on. I thought I thought feminists fight for equality. >> That's not equality.
04:59:01
Brian Atlas>> But remember when I said feminists won't fight for equality if it comes to the detriment of women. >> Women aren't dying because of the
04:59:12
Brian Atlasabortion ban. >> What? What? What? >> Look it up. >> What? No. No. No. But what does that have to do with my point? Answer my point. >> Because when you take away abortion, too.
04:59:23
Brian Atlas>> There are men do >> really dangerous methods to like >> I'm not having an abortion debate with you. I'm having an equality debate with you right now. >> Mhm. >> Responding to them if there is
04:59:36
Brian Atlas>> No, no, no, no. Let's not get bogged down into the weeds of an abortion debate. >> We're having an equality debate. address my point. >> You think we'd have to ban abortion
04:59:49
V (Van/April)nationwide for men and women to have reproductive? Why don't >> equality? You know what equality means? Equal. >> Well, men can get a vasectomy because
05:00:00
Brian Atlasthey're very easily reversible instead of women being on birth control. So, that should be the equal. >> Okay. But hold on. >> Like the equality in that. >> Okay. Well, women technically can sterilize themselves, but you do
05:00:12
V (Van/April)acknowledge that women have uh unplanned >> are reversible though. >> Logic is evading you at this point. >> Yeah. Yeah. I know that women have
05:00:22
V (Van/April)>> but but your are reversible though. >> What does that have to do with the point? >> The equality because they can >> that's not No, >> that's right over their body to get a
05:00:33
V (Van/April)vasectomy. All men should get vasectomies so they don't get women pregnant. you know, and all women should be on birth control. >> Your point is your point >> not all, but like >> Okay, great. Your point is completely
05:00:46
V (Van/April)incoherent. >> No, because you said there should be a ban on abortions. If men don't want to get women pregnant, then they should get vasectomies. And that's their right.
05:00:58
Brian Atlas>> That's their You do acknowledge though, if you like to use these extreme examples of ectopic pregnancy, how about I use an extreme example. Women rape men. >> And you know what's funny? Some of these
05:01:09
Brian Atlasteachers will actually do this to their students. And then they convenient, well, I shouldn't say conveniently. The women
05:01:18
Brian Atlas>> get pregnant and then the victim, the the boy has to pay her child support. >> Are you kidding? >> It happens.
05:01:29
Brian Atlas>> It happens. You can try to uh contest it in the court. The court will say, "You know what? Don't care." Uh yes, she she raped the boy, but
05:01:40
Brian Atlasshe got pregnant. She kept the kid. He has to pay for child support. >> The parents are responsible. Correct. >> And of course, that's not >> you said these were underage kids. No. >> Well, I mean, if we're talking about a
05:01:51
Brian Atlas16-year-old, by the time he turns 18, yes, but he would be >> uh he would be So, I'm using an extreme example here to >> Of course, that's not right. So,
05:02:01
Brian Atlas>> but you do acknowledge like how about this? Um, sometimes birth control fails. Sometimes vasectomies even fail. And sometimes women lie. Sometimes women, if I'm going to use an extreme example, can
05:02:13
Brian Atlaslie about their birth control status, can try to trap a guy, can go into Drake's bathroom, get a condom, and try to inseminate themselves. >> E, what? >> So consent is not always, it doesn't
05:02:25
Brian Atlasseem like it's always needed for fatherhood, right? So >> n same with motherhood. Like a guy can come a woman without telling them. >> Sure. But your argument about well men
05:02:37
Brian Atlascan get vasectomies that does nothing to >> men can lie about getting vasectomies too. He's playing devil's advocate. >> That doesn't nothing to rebut or dispute my point.
05:02:49
V (Van/April)You're you're off in the weeds here. >> But I'm not. It's the same thing with the opposite. Like you're telling me like men, you know, I don't think there's like
05:03:02
Tina>> women force men into child support every single day. >> Men baby trap women every single day. >> Baby trap. >> Okay. >> Well, I think this is getting away. >> This is getting away from the central point.
05:03:14
V (Van/April)>> What if a man pokes holes in a condom without telling? >> Yeah, that's wrong. That's wrong. So she still has the right abortion. What if their religious affiliations do not allow them to? >> Holy [ __ ]
05:03:26
Brian Atlas>> Well, their religious affiliations probably are also saying they shouldn't have sex in the first place. >> This is a total [ __ ] red herring. This is a total red herring. You can't actually stick to the point because you
05:03:39
Brian Atlasknow you're wrong. You know you're wrong. So you need to obfiscate and do red herrings that aren't central or material to the actual conversation being had. We're talking about equality.
05:03:50
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And I'm telling you the equal >> Yeah. The equal thing women being on birth control is men getting a vasectomy. >> That's not the equal thing. It's not the equal thing. First off, some women don't
05:04:02
Brian Atlaswant to be on birth control. They still engage in sex and they can >> they can still get a woman regardless of her birth control status. Mhm. >> You would you would acknowledge
05:04:13
Brian Atlasif a woman has had sex and regardless of whether she's on birth control, whether she's had her tubes tied, if she gets pregnant, you would acknowledge that at least in the states where it's allowed, she can get an abortion.
05:04:25
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. So, my point was men should have uh in a state where abortion is legal, men should also have some sort of escape from fatherhood.
05:04:37
Brian AtlasBut you're saying no, they should just get a vasectomies as a preventative measure. >> Yeah, >> but that's great in your utopian [ __ ] fairy woozy doozy uh society here. >> That's your argument. That's mine back.
05:04:51
V (Van/April)>> Just saying. >> Yeah, yours is unrealistic though because >> why is it realistic for a woman to get an IUD? But I mean, >> oh my god, you're actually not get a vasectomy.
05:05:02
Brian Atlas>> Vasectomies are uh sometimes irreversible. often times irreversible, especially over time. They're also far more invasive than an IUD. It actually requires cutting into the man. You have
05:05:14
Brian Atlasto snip the vast deference. It's much more invasive and there's a chance of permanent sterilization. Uh I suppose some of these uh female
05:05:25
Brian Atlasbirth controls, >> they can cause permanent damage as well. >> Yes, but it's far less likely. In any case, >> a vasectomy is a vasectomy.
05:05:35
V (Van/April)>> Hold on. Actually, no. Birth control can cause like permanent reproductive damage, especially if a woman starts it too young. >> Oh my god, dude.
05:05:47
Lindsay (Med Device)>> Especially if a woman starts it too young to be mean. >> Not everybody can take birth control. But I don't think there's a zero comparison between a vasectomy and birth control. That's crazy. >> I don't know how to You know what? Um,
05:06:01
Brian Atlasthis is what you're doing right now. This is what you're doing. Um, uh, somebody who gets a cast that's as invasive as brain surgery.
05:06:13
V (Van/April)>> Mhm. >> That's your That's what you're doing. >> But it's still like >> like it's the degree of the invasiveness like getting >> I'm just say I'm arguing back to your
05:06:26
V (Van/April)argument because you say that men don't have the same reproductive rights, but if they want, >> we also want to be okay. Look, circumcision >> men,
05:06:36
Brian Atlas>> let's be realistic here. Um, unwanted, unplanned pregnancies happen all the time. Uh, this idea that we're going to get, and also, by the way, people who
05:06:46
Brian Atlasare underage have sex. Like 16, 17, 18 year olds have sex. I don't think it's medically indicated for a 16-year-old to get actomy. That's [ __ ] insane. Uh,
05:06:58
Brian Atlasyeah. In addition to that, but we do acknowledge that like teenagers do have sex, right? Teenagers have sex. Maybe we can separate conversation, maybe they shouldn't, whatever. Uh, in any case, we
05:07:11
Brian Atlashave to acknowledge that that's the reality. Um, people don't practice perfect protection, whether that's condoms, whether that's women on birth control, whatever it is, it's never
05:07:21
Brian Atlas100%. Women get pregnant unwanted. It can be unwanted on both sides. Vasectomy is not a p really a prescriptive thing
05:07:32
Brian Atlashere. The question is though in the event of an unwanted pregnancy which is the current status quo your utopian. It's not it wouldn't even be utopian. It would be dystopian to have every single
05:07:44
Brian Atlasman get a vasectomy. That's ridiculous. In any case, yeah, your solution is completely absurd. In the event that let's let's go back down to earth. Let's
05:07:55
Brian Atlasgo to operate in reality. Take your [ __ ] rosecolored glasses off so we can talk reality here because that [ __ ] is melting your brain. >> Oh my god. >> The reality, I'm back now. >> Down to earth. Down to earth reality.
05:08:08
Brian AtlasUnwanted pregnancies, unplanned pregnancies happen all the time. >> Mhm. >> All the time. >> Of course. >> Right. In this situation,
05:08:20
Brian Atlasmen have no means of escaping fatherhood if the woman is intent on having the child. >> But they don't have to be in the kid's life. >> The woman can compel the state to Well,
05:08:32
Brian Atlasthe the woman can go to the state to compel the man to pay child support. >> Yeah. >> Okay, cool. You've just taken away a man's bodily autonomy. >> How? It's paying money.
05:08:43
Brian Atlas>> Two ways. Two ways. So forcing so financially crippling somebody for a period of 18 years or you know maybe you won't categorize it as crippling but you might
05:08:53
Brian Atlas>> it's based off of income >> somebody right? Yeah. So but taking like 20% of somebody's income uh when people are already paying like rent is insane
05:09:04
Brian Atlascost of living is insane that can absolutely financially [ __ ] somebody. But in addition to that, if you don't work or you make minimal money, the state does have a trump card where, and
05:09:17
Brian Atlasby the way, we've done away with debtor's prisons. If you owe a debt to somebody, you can you can't be sent to prison. There used to be if you owed a person or a company money,
05:09:31
Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> debtor's prisons, you could be sent to prison, right? We've done away with it with one exception, child support. Child support is the only debt that you can owe, financial debt that you can owe
05:09:42
Brian Atlasthat if you don't pay it, you can eventually, you know, get sent to prison, sent to jail. So in sort of two ways, you would be taking and by the
05:09:54
Brian Atlasway, child support like 97% of the time goes from men to women. So while it is the case that some women can pay child support, we do have an example. I haven't worked in 5 years and I still have to pay child support. I don't have an income.
05:10:06
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. The system's [ __ ] The system's [ __ ] [ __ ] crazy. >> Overwhelmingly, men are the ones who pay child support. >> Literally. >> So, you can force a man to work. And if he doesn't work, you can do another
05:10:18
Brian Atlasattack on his bodily autonomy. You can send him to prison. You're depriving him of his freedom of movement that's related to bodily autonomy. So, um yeah,
05:10:29
V (Van/April)>> it takes two to get pregnant, though. So each should take account. >> Let's use those arguments for abortion, >> you know. >> Oh, don't. >> I mean, you're you're literally a bronze age pro.
05:10:41
V (Van/April)>> But it takes two. You both have to take the accountability in a mistake. >> Yeah, but why can women escape from their responsibility? >> How? They're the one having a kid.
05:10:53
V (Van/April)>> The opposite the opposite side. In abortion, yeah, women can escape from responsibility. can escape from responsibility.
05:11:04
Tina>> Yeah, >> men can't. >> You're also allowed to go and drop your child off like after you have them if you can't handle it. >> Go give the but men don't have that
05:11:16
Tinaright. If a woman wants to put him on child support and wants him to suffer and pay for the child that he didn't want but she wanted, that's not equality. >> They're not the one carrying the kid.
05:11:29
Lindsay (Med Device)That has nothing to do with it as somebody that carried a kid and that that's literally nothing to do with it. >> Having sex is a risk, guys. >> Yeah. >> So, with that being said, you get
05:11:42
V (Van/April)pregnant. You you know, everything comes with consequences. It's kind of a guy's fault for coming in a woman. >> You don't have to be someone doesn't have to >> I I don't understand this logic though.
05:11:54
V (Van/April)So, like would you be fine if like the woman lied about birth control that he can evade responsibility? >> Definitely [ __ ] up. Like, it's
05:12:07
Brian Atlasdefinitely >> But can he can he evade child support or should he be able to evade child support? >> Yeah, but they can't. >> It's impossible. No matter how uh malevolent and evil and
05:12:18
Brian Atlasscheming and whatever other term you want to use the woman is, >> the court doesn't give a [ __ ] The woman can The woman, you don't even have to [ __ ] the woman. She can be Drake's
05:12:30
Brian Atlasgroupy who doesn't [ __ ] him. I don't know. Whatever. Go into the Go into the trash bin. >> That's so >> with his condom. Inseminate herself. He's on the hook for 18 years of child support. But isn't it once it like
05:12:41
Brian Atlastouches air it's like >> No, it doesn't lift like seven. Oh, >> yeah. >> Well, the effectiveness of like >> not trash can insemination. I don't know. But >> there's
05:12:56
Janettelike so [ __ ] >> No, it was a legit thing when I looked at my was a lot of those athletes were really concerned about that and women were literally hunting them down sperm dies. In the '9s, in the '9s, the NBA
05:13:09
Brian Atlasadvocated that the the players when after you have sex with a woman, first off, be sure to use a condom. Um, >> make sure that you get out hold of it.
05:13:20
Brian Atlas>> Tie a knot in the condom and flush it down the toilet. >> Yeah. They're like, or turn it in at the end of the night. >> Because so many women, they were literally the NBA had to warn the
05:13:32
Brian Atlasplayers. >> Yes. Because so many women would the guys like you know I'm would rifle through the trash can >> to try to because NBA players make good money >> breaking it in
05:13:45
Janette>> they were teaching them not to accept the condoms from I'm so sorry I'm being on the table not to accept the condoms from the women not to let them dispose of it not to make make sure they kept their eyes on it. It's absolutely true.
05:13:56
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Um I we have chats coming through. I apologize for the delay on these. I was donated $200. >> You got me, big dog. Fair play. Well
05:14:07
SPEAKER_01done. Just kidding. Shuck that mouth of yours. Proof you're a swift since she has fans that fake stats trying to dethrone Mike. Love our bro calling a truce. >> You know what? I don't know. I
05:14:19
Brian Atlasapologize. You sent this in a while ago. I was distracted. My phone wasn't showing. I >> She has clicked off. He's uh trolling fake set's trying to do >> I don't know if you're still here watching cuz I know you said you had to
05:14:32
Brian Atlasgo >> Janet Jackson better than Michael Jackson. >> Oh god. >> A message from the government of Canada.
05:14:40
SPEAKER_01>> Horrible. >> Pasty George donated $2004. In Canada, women are considered more than men in the courts and hospitals,
05:14:51
SPEAKER_01including when prescribed certain medications by doctors. Men have to jump through hoops just to get what women get easily. >> I hear Canada's kind of there's a lot of >> healthy
05:15:04
Brian Atlas>> lot of issues. You know what past one story I heard it was called uh sort of a different topic here. >> Thank God.
05:15:14
Brian Atlas>> Uh oh man. What was it? Basically this man was never married to this woman in Canada but he was like dating her or
05:15:23
Brian Atlassomething. He had to pay her. Oh, wait. It was called I think called palimony. They were never married. >> Yeah, I've heard
05:15:32
Brian Atlas>> they were just boyfriend girlfriend. >> He had to pay her alimony. Never married in Canada. >> Were they together for for how long? >> Oh, I don't know. A couple years or
05:15:44
Janettesomething. But like if you're not married, maybe Nick, can you Google that story? >> Yeah. >> Like that's missing something. I mean, there are women that try to sue men here all the time for that same thing. It's
05:15:56
Janettethe standard of living they were they were used to, but no marriage. >> Hold on. Um, [Music]
05:16:06
SPEAKER_01>> truth bomb donated $200. Eptopic pregnancy is not considered an abortion. So, she flat out wrong. Men are the ones with less rights. We get mutilated at birth with no choice at
05:16:19
Brian Atlasall. >> Oh, that is true. I mean, that's another bodily autonomy thing. Circumcision. Absolutely. Uh, thank you, Truth Bomb. Appreciate it. Um, we I'm just going to let these come through. She had I think she's using the
05:16:33
Lindsay (Med Device)bathroom. >> Uh, thank you. >> Message from the government of Canada. It's >> like trying to
05:16:43
SPEAKER_01>> Brian debating with chair one is trying to debate with a KK. Why racism is wrong? Lol. Uh, >> he's being funny. >> I think it's >> I don't know if it's a total onetoone
05:16:56
Brian Atlascomparison, but um she >> she's an issue with understanding the concept. It's not >> have a soft spot for >> Felicity. Can I have Actually, let's have Claire Can have you read this one?
05:17:08
Claire>> Yeah. It's insane that Chair Five only pays 1,700 a monthly in child support while she made over 50K a month at one point, but is looking to milk her now husband through feminist family court. men take note.
05:17:21
Janette>> Oh, wow. >> Wow. That's really This is really funny. Well, they they dictate what you pay based on what their salary is as well. So, they take the discrepancies between the two households and then they come up with a price. It's not like a flat one
05:17:33
Janetteflat rate for how much I made a month. Does that make sense? And I'm not trying to milk my ex, soon to be ex-husband for anything. We built businesses together and there was a lot of money invested and I was with him for a long time.
05:17:45
SPEAKER_12>> That guy really knew your stats though. I wonder if it was, you know, that >> maybe my accent, >> right? >> Please check merch purchases.
05:17:56
Brian Atlas>> Uh, hold on. >> Oh, wait. Is it this? >> I think I found the story. >> That was personal. >> There it is. >> Was >> Yo, Diego, thank you for the purchase, man. I don't know if this is you.
05:18:09
Brian Atlas>> Is this you, Diego? Maybe it is. Sorry for the delay on this. Thank you for the merch purchase, man. >> Yeah, we should probably do that. Um, hold on one sec. And then Claire, can I have you read this one? >> Mhm.
05:18:22
Claire>> Chair six, do you think that chair one can still be saved? >> Timu Yokoono, your world view is collapsing every minute that passes. Just concede and say you are wrong.
05:18:33
Brian Atlas>> Can she be saved? Just say from back there.
05:18:38
SPEAKER_09>> You said she can be saved. >> I think she can be saved. >> Can she be saved? >> Thank you. Yeah. >> Oh, okay. I didn't believe it. >> All right. Uh, >> Yoko, >> I don't know if that's you, Diego. Um, thank you, man.
05:18:52
Brian Atlas>> Am I the Timu? >> No, no, I'm I'm theu >> guys. Read 100 TTS 200. Get them in if you'd like. Sorry for the delay on those
05:19:01
Brian Atlassome of those recent ones, guys. My uh my notifications were not uh popping properly. Um,
05:19:12
Brian Atlastrying to think here. I want to get into some of the dating stuff actually. >> That would be nice. Um,
05:19:21
Brian Atlas>> uh, trying to think here. Uh, >> I need I need to get up really quick. Just
05:19:30
Brian Atlas>> Felicity. Uh, a what a story. >> Oh my god. What the [ __ ] Uh, Felicity, why don't we
05:19:48
Brian Atlashold on? Um, why don't you run one through >> Oh, no. >> One through five.
05:20:03
Felicity>> Okay. Do you guys think men Japan first dates? It says men should pay on first dates and you agree. You agree? >> Just ask them the question. >> Do you
05:20:16
Felicity>> just ask them a question one by one? >> Do you think? >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah.
05:20:25
Claire>> Why Why should men pay on first dates? >> I think it shows initiative. >> I agree. Especially if most men are like the ones initiating things, then I would
05:20:36
Janettesay yes. >> Okay. I I don't know. I got roasted on this earlier. So, >> chivalry in some small way. Look at it's an
05:20:49
Janetteinvestment. They're showing that they're willing to invest in the time with you. It's kind of like an engagement ring. If he's not willing to pay for your dinner, he's not really that interested in you. >> So, yes.
05:21:00
Olivia (VA)>> Okay. Um, I do agree with that too. If he is really not willing to pay for like
05:21:09
Felicitydinner, at least on the first date, um, I think, yeah, he's not really into you. >> Okay. >> I think the initiative thing is a good way to to describe it.
05:21:22
Felicity>> So, like if a guy if you were out on a date with a guy and he was like, "Two checks, would there be another date?" There wouldn't be two checks either. >> Well, if he's like, "Let's split." >> No, thank you.
05:21:34
Felicity>> Would there be another date? >> Say no. >> It kind of depends on their financial like stat state. >> So, you would go on another date depending on the situation. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like
05:21:47
V (Van/April)>> I could have understanding if they were like super broke and tried their best, you know? >> Yeah. What do you think? Um I'm not opposed to splitting. It's just like it would just throw me off a little bit.
05:21:59
Janette>> But you would go on another date >> if I really liked him then. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Same. Depends how the date goes. If he was really cool, sure. >> I have snuck and paid for many a meals, but not on a first date. So, no. I
05:22:11
Olivia (VA)absolutely no second date for that. >> Um, for me that kind of signals like want to be more just friends. Like that's a friends kind of vibe than >> Yeah.
05:22:22
Olivia (VA)>> wanting to date. So, like for me, that's that's why I I I wouldn't be opposed to like splitting 50/50, but that would not be considered a first date for me. >> Okay.
05:22:34
Tina>> No, I mean, honestly, if I enjoyed the date and I enjoyed the conversation, even if he was like, "Oh, I'm sorry. I can't get it this time." I personally don't mind
05:22:47
Felicitypaying for it and going on a second date. >> Okay. The next statement is men should provide and protect.
05:22:55
Lindsay (Med Device)>> I think yeah, I think so too. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Yes.
05:23:04
Felicity>> Who wouldn't bow? Who wouldn't bow? >> I [ __ ] um men should be chivalous. >> Yeah.
05:23:16
FelicityYeah. Sure. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. What do you guys think women do? Like if men are chivalous and they have to provide and protect like what do
05:23:27
V (Van/April)we do? >> Should be reciprocated. You think we should be chivalous too? >> Like I mean like be polite and like
05:23:38
Clairerespectful and kind and giving as well, you know. >> Yeah, I agree. I think that like chivalry can also just mean like respect and like showing that you care. And so that can go the same way for women but
05:23:50
Rachel (Yoga)just like in other ways other than like opening the door and like doing those kinds of things. >> Bowing. >> That's what they said. >> Get the bow roast. >> Okay. What do you think? >> Um ask asking
05:24:02
Felicity>> um so I was like you guys all think men should be shovel and they should provide and protect. But what should women do? >> Well, I mean I do all sorts of things for my husband. Like I clean the house,
05:24:14
Rachel (Yoga)do the dishes, make dinner every single night. I also am home with the kids every single day taking care of the kids. So >> I think you submit you support you
05:24:26
Janetteprovide a stable home life for them so they can go out and conquer the world. >> Um yeah I think we should I don't know just I feel like kind of agree with what everyone else kind of
05:24:40
Tinasaid. >> Okay. everything that was said, but you know, pro provide peace and not chaos, >> right? Okay. >> Um, I think the respect thing is a
05:24:51
Tinareally big thing. Like if for instance, if my boyfriend told me, you know, I told him I was coming on the podcast and he was against it and he didn't want me to do it, I wouldn't have done it. And
05:25:01
Tinathat's something that I bring to the table with him is I understand that he is a provider and a protector and a great man. And honestly, at the end of the day, he would be the head of the
05:25:13
Felicityhousehold, and what the head of the household says is what should go. >> Okay. Um, will you will you take your husband's last name when you get married?
05:25:25
V (Van/April)>> Hell no. Oh, wait. [ __ ] yeah. I don't like my last name, though. Sorry, I almost said the wrong I have a horrid last name. >> Okay, well, now you have to tell us. Come on. >> She wants to do on the internet. Don't
05:25:37
V (Van/April)know. Maybe if you don't. >> Is your last name on your socials? >> I No, no, no. I'm very anonym. But I will tell you guys after. >> Okay. So,
05:25:51
Claire>> you will all laugh. >> I like my last name, so probably. Yeah. If he has like a really bad last name, I'm not going to want to change it. But I'm not opposed to like, you know, either way. It just depends if I like
05:26:02
Felicityhis name better. But you think men should be chivalous and provide and protect and basically be masculine, >> right? Like traditional. But >> But you're not going to give her >> That's not traditional to not take his last name.
05:26:15
Felicity>> Oh, well. >> Would you hyphenate? >> Maybe. Yeah. It just depends. >> But you want him to be traditional basically, but you're not willing to be
05:26:26
Clairetraditional to him. >> Well, I think it's different. I think just being like chiverous and like showing respect is different than like you know giving up your last name. It just depends if his last name sounds
05:26:38
Felicitybetter or not. >> But I get that could be offensive to him if he's like damn my my wife won't take my last name because she thinks it's ugly.
05:26:50
Claire>> I mean how can you respect a man to be traditional if you're not willing to be traditional? I'm not saying that he has to be like traditional in that sense and then I will also like like conform to my role
05:27:02
Claireas a traditional wife. I just think that like for the last name thing like I kind of like my last name. So, okay. >> Wait, what was the um you love your last name?
05:27:15
Brian Atlas>> I like my last name. Yeah. >> Wait, question. I I don't know how you responded to this, but should men pay for first dates? >> She said yes. >> Yes. >> Well, I love my wallet. I love my money.
05:27:25
Brian AtlasWhy should I give it to you? Or what? Why should I spend it on you? >> Why should I mic, please? >> Oh, I don't know.
05:27:38
Brian Atlas>> Okay, >> but you say you like your last name. Why should you give it up? I like my money. Why should I give it up?
05:27:48
ClaireYou want guys to pay for first dates? You want a guy to be a provider, right? I didn't know that like not taking the name has that much like of a connotation like a >> It's just tradition. What's traditional?
05:28:00
Brian Atlas>> It's traditional to take the last name of your husband. >> I didn't know that it was that like big of a deal. >> Wait, what's your last do you have a hyphenated last name? You don't have to tell us your last name, but >> No.
05:28:15
Claire>> Uh, do you have your father's last name or your mother's last name? >> They both have the same last name. All right. >> Before marriage. >> Loophole. Loophole. >> That's interesting. >> Um, are you Korean?
05:28:30
Lindsay (Med Device)>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> What is that? So, >> is it >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> You're kidding. Really? >> Oh my gosh. >> Comment. >> Okay. Um. >> Okay. I guess that's
05:28:42
SPEAKER_01>> Hold on. We have this >> a message from the government of Canada. >> My goodness. Pasty George donated $2004. I don't know about palimony, but there
05:28:54
SPEAKER_01are spousal support cases in Canada where women take their spouses to court for financial assistance and or compensation. However, it varies for common law cases.
05:29:06
Felicity>> Common law is what 10 years or more or is it more? >> I don't even think we have common law recognizes common law. Do we have that in California? I think they >> not in California but some states
05:29:17
V (Van/April)there's common law marriagesylvania. Yeah. That's where I met a couple like 8 years I believe. 7 to 8 78. >> Yeah.
05:29:27
Brian Atlas>> Careful guys. In some states if you live with her long enough or you hold yourself out as if you were I don't know you live with her cohabitate she can come after even if you're not married
05:29:38
Brian Atlasshe can come after you for uh child support. Just saying. >> Vousal support. >> Just saying. Or wait, what did I say? >> It's like you said child support. Oh, sorry.
05:29:48
Brian Atlas>> Miss misspoke. Um, >> uh, Nick, you had an article. >> Yeah, it was sort of.
05:30:00
Brian Atlas>> Um, I'm also going to send you a link. Uh, Felicity, can you read the title? >> Yeah, but they're common law. >> Unmarried. >> So, they're common law. >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. Unmarried Ontario couple had
05:30:11
Felicityno children and no house, but man must still pay support appeal court rules. >> Okay. >> But they're common law. So,
05:30:23
Brian Atlas>> um, >> okay. Uh, I sent another one. Nick, pull that up super quick, please. >> 10 years. >> Thank you, Pasty George. Appreciate it.
05:30:34
Brian AtlasThank you, guys. Guys, read is 100. TTS is 200. Court awards spousal support in case of unmarried partners who lived in
05:30:43
Brian Atlasseparate homes. Make it bigger, please. Bigger. Scroll down. Uh
05:30:55
Brian Atlaslasting 14 years. They lived in separate residences in Toronto, stayed together when they traveled. They did not merge their finances or jointly own property, but they presented as a couple in public.
05:31:09
JanetteBut >> the man was wealthy. >> She stopped working. That's why >> from the beginning of as soon as she entered in the relationship, she didn't work. So she was dependent upon him for
05:31:19
Brian Atlas14 years. So I can see how this is a >> but I I see that as a bit of a w windfall. She didn't have to work for 14 years, you know, like >> but she has no skills now. How's she
05:31:33
Janettegoing to I mean, how is she going to then go forward after 14 years of >> She already had a kid though. She already like with a different man. I think
05:31:42
Brian Atlas>> I don't know if a man like I don't think it's nothing that a man fully provides like you don't have to work live rentree. >> You don't think you should help her if you if the relationship ends and you've
05:31:55
Janettesupport her for 14 years. You don't think she needs a little like little oomph to get back into the real world? if I'm feeling nice, you know, but if I don't know, if I'm not married to her, >> but >> but selfish,
05:32:08
Janette>> like if I still was working making a huge earning like they like I did prior to marriage, I wouldn't be asking for support right now because I, you know, >> financially, >> what was that? >> Like if I was not supporting a woman
05:32:21
Janettefinancially, I would be better off financially. Maybe she should pay me even if I'm the wealthy one. >> Oh my god, you're crazy. She has no skill. Just throw that out.
05:32:32
JanetteCan you put those glasses on? Yeah, put the rose rose color glasses on. That That answer was Yes, that answer deserves a one at a time. One at a time.
05:32:43
Brian Atlas>> Okay, let me put it to you this way. So, >> she didn't work. I feel like the scenario. Sure. Okay. She didn't go to college and she got
05:32:53
Brian Atlaspregnant at 18 and she didn't gain life skills. Not even Okay. What about if I date a hairdresser and she has zero
05:33:05
Lindsay (Med Device)ambitions of ever doing anything more than cutting people's hair? >> And then Yeah, I know. I >> No, wait. You Why are you using that example? >> This woman didn't work for
05:33:18
Brian Atlas>> years. Because in my thought process here is if you cut hair, you you have the skill set and then when you get out of the relationship, you can
05:33:31
Lindsay (Med Device)just go back to what >> you have to build clientele. It doesn't work that way. You can't just get it doesn't it doesn't work. >> Ryan wants her to be homeless. >> I think >> literally well.
05:33:42
Janette>> No, I'm just saying like >> it's kind of like home. It's decent, human decency. You take care of someone for so long. >> Thank you. And you don't have to pay them for the extent that you were
05:33:54
Janettetogether. They have a smaller range of time that you need to assist them and maintain that that lifestyle so they can get back on their feet. >> I think it's really what it is. >> Parents kick out their kids at 18, too. It's kind of like
05:34:06
Janette>> I only get support for a year and a half. >> Huh? >> That depends on how much he was making. It really is. There is a calculator. She needs subsistence. She deserves it.
05:34:17
Brian Atlas>> She gets bare minimum. >> Why am I going to I'm wealthy and I dated a [ __ ] Chick-fil-A worker. Now all of a sudden, and she was never like
05:34:29
Brian Atlasjust on her own. She would have never amounted to ever earning $50,000 uh a month. Now I got to pay this chick $50,000 because
05:34:40
Brian Atlas>> we used to [ __ ] That's crazy. >> That's crazy. Like what about my needs? I'm used to getting [ __ ] Do I still get alimony [ __ ] What? Do I still get [ __ ] >> [ __ ] >> Do I get court ordered [ __ ]
05:34:53
Janette>> Alimony [ __ ] >> Do I get some shirt, please? That needs to be a shirt. >> The Yeah. Look, I'm just saying like why >> after 14 years with someone, you're not going to feel bad. Send them back to
05:35:07
Brian AtlasChick-fil-A. >> Well, you probably still do [ __ ] >> It depends. If she cheated on me, she can get [ __ ] Okay. >> If she cheated on me, she can get things that would be she's being a [ __ ] pain in the ass. Probably can
05:35:20
Brian Atlasstill get [ __ ] But if it's like, >> what if it's your being a pain in the ass? >> I'm perfect. >> Oh, wow. >> No, but look, if it's like mostly
05:35:30
Brian Atlasamicable, like if it's mostly amicable and she's genuinely like financially I think sure, there's a fair argument that you can support her, right? uh for a period not like
05:35:41
Brian Atlas>> yes for two 22 year olds >> but but the current like status quo like look >> I think people can >> I don't know couple months she gets a couple months six months
05:35:54
Janette>> months >> six months you can get a job you're good >> okay you cheated >> I agree six months is >> if you 14 years this woman she loved you relied on you she was all in and you
05:36:05
Janettewere like you know what I'm done I would like this young piece of ass over here. Adios Furwell. Tata. Are you going to give her some support?
05:36:16
Brian Atlas>> Uh, I might like get her some Chili's coupons or something. I'll uh Okay, here's some coupons. Starbucks coupon. >> Okay. >> Uh, here's, you know, >> no alimony [ __ ]
05:36:30
V (Van/April)>> Okay. Got it. >> Look, look, I mean, these are crazy hypotheticals we're throwing out here. >> That's what you do here. >> Yeah, you do it. this whole episode you've been doing it.
05:36:41
Brian Atlas>> Uh, look, I mean, look, people break up all the time. If I'm not Look, if I'm not married to her, if I'm not married to her, uh, >> if I was supporting you for 14 years, >> Mhm.
05:36:53
Janette>> and I dropped your ass tomorrow and you were used to me making a million dollars a year, >> I would be like, >> whatever. I would be like, >> no, no, my my perspective I maybe this
05:37:05
Brian Atlasis like just the male perspective. I'm like, "Oh my god, that was so [ __ ] dope. I didn't have to work for 15 years." Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Good. I got everything for free. >> And now you're home.
05:37:17
Brian Atlas>> And I just had to give her some dick. >> Yeah. But Okay. But now you have no home. >> You have nothing now. You get nothing. >> People lose their jobs. People lose their jobs. They find a way. I would I
05:37:28
Janettewould find a path. I would find a path. >> I I am finding a path. I'm just again from my own experience. I'm in the process of finding a path, but like I also contributed to the path that we built. So now like
05:37:41
Janette>> Wait, how old were you? Uh or how old were you guys when you got married? >> We were only married for 3 years, >> but he made all his money after he met me. I'm just trying to give you an example. No, he did. >> I can >> Let's not act though.
05:37:53
Brian Atlas>> There's no acting. >> You were like 18 and naive and like I could have gone to college if it wasn't for you. I could have been a corporate slave. Come on. Come on. You'll get back on
05:38:06
Janetteyour feet. >> Oh, I know. I will. Again, there's lots of different examples we can set. >> Look, you were married and the laws will protect you. >> Not necessarily. Believe me, not necessarily. You know how much it costs
05:38:19
Janettefor me to even get proven that I get? Believe me, it does not protect you. I could still walk away with nothing after spending $50 to $100,000 in court fees. Believe me, >> isn't doesn't he have to pay for your lawyer? >> Not always. If he can hide them, believe
05:38:33
SPEAKER_01me. >> Okay. Well, >> it is a fun story for another day. >> Sure. >> Government of Canada. >> Pasty George donated $2004.
05:38:46
SPEAKER_01In Canada, there is the child tax benefit for men and women with no skills. And you get more for each child that you have to support. >> Well, what if you don't have >> It's not that much, though. >> All right, Felicity, I'm going to have
05:38:58
Brian Atlasyou read this next one. Pasty George, thank you very much. Appreciate it, man. Thank you, Pasty. We have this next one coming up. Um, what was the other thing we had to do? Um,
05:39:11
Felicity>> yeah. >> Yeah, we'll do that super quick. >> Does Py take out like a payday loan before every episode? >> I had a friend at uni whose girlfriend often stayed at his at his student share
05:39:22
Felicityhouse because it was Sorry, I'm having a hard time reading the white font. It was closer to uni after they both graduated. claimed >> uh hold on. I'll pull it back up.
05:39:33
Felicity>> One sec. Rational. Thank you, man. >> Uh de facto settlement and got half of his inheritance. >> That's [ __ ] That's [ __ ] up. >> You really inheritance though? I think I
05:39:46
Brian Atlasthought inheritance wasn't something that you can actually >> get a famous streamer XQC. Didn't his girlfriend like try to get him for this? >> Like they weren't married or something?
05:39:58
Brian AtlasAnd like she tried to get some of his money. Chat, uh, are you guys more familiar with the case? But basically not married. They were just dating, living together, and she like tried to
05:40:08
Janettego after him for money. Uh, I don't know the details on it, though. >> In California, you can't go after inheritance. >> Apparently, she's >> Jesus. >> Yeah.
05:40:21
Brian Atlas>> Common law marriage. >> Oh, she's claiming common law. >> Yeah, it got dismissed. But apparently she's like reopened the case or something or she's tried to sue a couple times or Yeah. Uh WXQC. We should get
05:40:33
Brian Atlasthis guy on the podcast by the way. Imagine that. Imagine him on the podcast. That'd be fun. I'd love to actually even not on the dating talk. Just interview him. Anybody in the chat know that guy XQC? I just want to
05:40:44
Brian Atlasinterview him about the whole lawsuit or whatever. I don't know if he even would talk about it, but uh Okay, let's get into some of the notes here. We've we've uh talked about some crazy [ __ ] Crazy [ __ ]
05:41:00
Brian AtlasLet's see here. Uh going to you. >> Oh god. >> You said your first Actually, no. I should I'll come back to your notes because I've already given you a lot of
05:41:10
Brian Atlasattention. Uh let's do Claire. Claire, uh let's see, one sec. Uh you said you really you excuse me, haven't really officiate officially
05:41:22
Brian Atlasdated that many guys. You've just been caught up in a lot of situationships. >> Not a lot. Just like >> Well, you wrote a lot. >> Yeah. >> What's a lot? How many situationships have you been caught up in? >> Well, more than dating. So, like maybe
05:41:34
Clairelike three like situationships and then two actual like official relationships. >> Okay. You said you're an avid avid Hinge user until you got permanently banned. >> How? >> What?
05:41:45
Claire>> Um it was like such a stupid reason. It was cuz I like I had I deleted my account and then I made a new one and I just put my name as like I think it was like Gorlock the Destroyer which is
05:41:55
Clairefunny because she was on here. >> I know. Um and then I just like put some random pictures and then like me and my friends were just like trolling people and then >> Oh, that's not nice.
05:42:06
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, people that'll get you banned. >> You said you said that you loved Wait one sec. Let me let this come through from Pasty.
05:42:14
SPEAKER_01>> A message from the government of Canada. Pasty George donated $2004. I also forgot to mention that there are
05:42:25
SPEAKER_01more support programs and funding for women than men in Canada. There are hardly any support programs and funding for single fathers. >> Yeah. I mean, you see that in a whole
05:42:35
Brian Atlasbunch of different ways, you know, like DV shelters, just all kinds of different varying differentials when it comes to support. Also, Pacey George, you now need to run for prime minister because
05:42:46
Brian Atlasof the little noise ding thing. Government, you're going to you're the new PM, I guess. Uh, you love to use Hinge as a tool. What does that What does that mean?
05:42:58
Claire>> Yeah. Well, just if I needed like a question like that about like maybe like I don't know something that it was about like >> help with homework or something. >> Yeah, like homework or like >> you'd match you'd match with a guy and be like >> I'll go on a date with you if you do my
05:43:11
Clairehomework. I don't know. Just just like I wouldn't even say like yeah like we'll go on a date. It's just like oh I need help with this or like do you know like cars >> change a light bulb or something like >> Wait. Yeah.
05:43:22
Claire>> Wait. So question. Um so what were some of the things that like you actually had them do those? So did a guy actually come and help you with your car? >> No. No. Just like researching about like what kind of car I wanted or like if it was worth there like what models were
05:43:35
Clairelike the best cuz like I don't know. I just >> figured guys talk about cars. >> Yeah. Exactly. But why Hinge specifically? Like I feel like Instagram or any other social media. >> They're more like available. They're
05:43:47
Clairelike they want to talk to cuz if I just DM'd random guys like I I feel like they wouldn't get back to me in time. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Or like um I was in New York with my friends and then we were just kind of like >> so mean.
05:43:59
Claire>> We were like, "Oh, like who wants to come hang out with us?" And so we got this guy to like buy us like karaoke and like Ubers like to the hotel and stuff. So, >> oh, any any other examples like that where like you did maybe meet up with a
05:44:11
Claireguy and you >> got him to do things >> other than that? No, >> just like just like help. And >> was the guy cool or weird? >> Um, he didn't really speak good English, so he kind of just sat in like the
05:44:24
Clairebackground. >> Took advantage of an illegal immigrant. >> No, he was Korean actually. >> Why does he have to be illegal? >> Took advantage of an illegal immigrant. >> No, he wasn't illegal. He went to He's just bad at speaking English. Do you speak Korean?
05:44:37
Claire>> Not that well. >> Oh, okay. So, you spoke Korean and bad English. >> Um, yeah. >> What? Um, >> not that that matters, but it's just
05:44:51
Clairelike he wasn't like >> he wasn't the life of the party, per se. Like, he just kind of hung out. >> Either of you interested in him? >> Either of me or my friends? >> You said you're with a girlfriend. >> I was with one of my girlfriends, but she's in a long-term relationship with
05:45:03
Brian Atlasher boyfriend who was there, too. and then their friend. So, >> wait, so this poor New York Korea man he Ubered around you, your girlfriend, and her boyfriend. >> Boyfriend and their other guy friend.
05:45:18
Brian AtlasYeah. >> So, two girls and two guys. >> Yeah. >> So, he shows up and there's two girls and two guys. >> Yeah. >> Did he know that there were going to be two guys? >> Yeah. I was just like, "Oh, like me and
05:45:28
Clairemy friends." >> Did you But did you explicitly say that? >> No. I wasn't like me and my two male friends and then one female friend. I was just like, "Oh, me and my friends are out right now." Like, >> first off, I would never fall for this trap.
05:45:41
Brian Atlas>> But >> if I showed up and I'm like, "Oh, no. I'm on a date with two girls and their boyfriend."
05:45:52
Brian Atlas>> Well, I I didn't say it's like a date like one-on-one with him. >> Well, it's kind of implied if you meet on a dating app. Well, I think he had a good time anyway. >> Like, it's not called friend app, it's
05:46:05
Brian Atlascalled dating app, you know. Did either of you Well, I guess you were the only single one. Did you like hook up with him or >> No. >> Were you even into him?
05:46:15
Brian Atlas>> No. >> Wait, before you made him come out, were you into him? >> No. >> He's just the first one to reply. >> So,
05:46:27
Clairewas he into you? I would assume if he did all that then yeah. >> Did he try to make a move? >> I think he was like, "Oh, like you owe me something at like the end of the day, but I never ended."
05:46:38
Claire>> Oh, that's weird. That's weird. >> So, but he said that, but don't do that. >> I'm not I'm not I'm not like that. But I was just like I think he got too Oh, he got too like nervous and like it's because I'm with my like guy friends
05:46:50
Clairetoo, I think. And like the language barrier. I don't think he was like confident enough to be like, "Oh yeah, like now you have to give me a kiss or something." Like I think he just he might have been saying it in Korean. You had no idea. >> Maybe. >> Um
05:47:07
Brian Atlas>> you were you just not attracted to the guy? >> I wasn't. No. >> But so why? And he paid for your [ __ ] >> He paid for Ubers and did he pay for food? >> Well, like karaoke and stuff like that.
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Brian Atlas>> How much is karaoke? >> I don't know. I left it up to him. >> Romance scam. Romance scam. You romance scam this poor and you did it to your own kind, too.
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Claire>> Like, you know, it's like this poor Korean guy, you know? >> But he's like he's like one of those like rich ones. Like he was like decked out. >> You have no you have no guilt for fooling him into thinking that you liked him.
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Brian Atlas>> I don't I never said I liked him. I just want to hang out. >> Bro, you can't How you going? Come on, man. You can't finesse your own race. I guess you can, but >> I feel like that's fair game then. Wait, it's
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Janette>> like my wife. >> You feel like it's better to like >> I don't know. >> You met on a dating app where it is implied that you're going to meet up because you're looking for a connection. So, I do think that that's
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Brian Atlas>> How about this? Yeah, that's a good point. Um, well, I don't know how the reverse I suppose the like the comparable, but guys do this all the time, so I feel
05:48:22
Brian Atlaslike it's not a good example. I think it's wrong. But the example I would give, how would you feel? Well, I don't know if you're even opposed to this. A guy leads you on that
05:48:32
Brian Atlashe's interested in a relationship to get in your pants, but he just wanted sex and then he ghost you. Would you feel like used? >> Well, yeah, but it depends. Like, was he like upfront about it? Like, this is
05:48:44
Brian Atlaslike I don't want a relationship, whatever. It's like I don't know if you're cuz I think in some of your notes it sounds like you're kind of a bit more open to like more casual dating. Uh so I don't know if you'd actually even have a
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Claireproblem with just having like casual sex with a guy. >> Um I mean I haven't but I feel like I don't know. I think that if it's clear on both sides and they're not like
05:49:08
Brian Atlastelling you that they want a relationship and then just >> I'm trying to think what like cuz I feel it's hard for a guy to finesse a woman
05:49:16
Brian Atlasin this way early on just because we got some pizza here coming out for you guys. >> Oh my gosh. I'm sorry.
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Brian Atlas>> Um damn you gave her and she was asking about the food. Can you gave her the poverty slice? Those are some thin [ __ ] slices. >> It's too It's too put together. >> I don't know. They gave it two pieces.
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Brian Atlas>> They gave Well, look at Hold that. Wait, show that to the camera. Look at >> What the [ __ ] >> Crazy. >> Just don't spill it if you can. But damn, they What are these [ __ ] pizza
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Brian Atlasslices, >> bro? Pizza like in like grade school. You know how like 30 kids in one pizza? >> This poor girl is going to starve here. >> Well, there's more. >> Oh, there's more. Okay.