Andrew Wilson vs. Charlie (Feminist, Leftist) | Rachel Wilson CRASHES Show?! | Whatever Debates #22

Date: 2025-11-09

Duration: 6h 17m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCharlie (Feminist)>

AAndrew Wilson >

RRachel Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Andrew Wilson(host)

SPEAKER_03Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_04Rachel Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_05Charlie (Feminist)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces Andrew Wilson vs Charlie debate on feminism

Key MomentAndrew: women voting on war while men die is 'fundamental injustice'

Key MomentBureau of Justice Statistics on interracial crime read aloud

Key MomentCharlie admits she doesn't know what 'per capita' means

Key MomentRachel Wilson crashes debate by phone after Charlie attacked her family

ControversyCharlie: Rachel's life 'would have been better spent' if she aborted her children

Key MomentCharlie reveals she was on testosterone for 10 years (FTMF detransitioner)

AgreementAndrew and Charlie bond over Tolkien and Lord of the Rings

Topics Discussed

COVID Lockdowns vs Feminist Choice

Andrew challenges Charlie: supported lockdowns but supports pro-choice. Inconsistency.

Women Voting / Draft

Andrew: unjust that women vote on war when men bear combat risk.

Abortion and Birth Control

Charlie argues abortion essential for economic equality.

Interracial Crime Statistics

Andrew presents DOJ stats. Charlie contests conviction reliability.

Colonialism and Anti-White Rhetoric

Extended debate on 'colonizer' definition.

Rachel Wilson Crashes Debate

Rachel calls in after Charlie's comments about her children.

LOTR and Tolkien

Post-debate friendly exchange on Tolkien, Christian allegory.

Transcript

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Andrew Wilson>> Okay. So, you give it to the church. >> Do Are you saying that my church doesn't dispense to the poor? >> Um, I think that you ought to be wary about it. Wary? >> Oh, should I send it to a private charity to pay a CEO a ton of money

Andrew Wilsoninstead? Even though we know that direct charitable contributions from the church actually get to the people and when you send it to a charity, it usually goes to administration fees. >> You know that for sure. That's where the church's money is going.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. Well, I mean, I know the board of the church. I'm pretty sure that I know where they're sending my money. Yeah. >> All right. If you say so. >> Yeah. How much do you give? >> What I can >> How much is that? >> What I can win. >> How much is that? >> What I can win?

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. How much is that percentage-wise of your income? >> Percentage wise. >> The truth, Chuck.

Andrew Wilson>> Over my lifetime. >> No. Now, in the last in the last four years, >> in the last four, >> what have you given as a total percentage of your income to the poor, Chuck? >> I couldn't even I don't even know how much of my total income is.

Charlie (Feminist)>> Guess >> guess keeping track. >> Guess what percentage on hand? I hand it out to people. If I see people, >> you got cash on hand? >> No, not right now. >> Oh jeez. Well, how much is a percentage

Andrew Wilsondo you think you've given >> the truth? How much? >> I would say definitely in the 10% range. Yeah, [ __ ] right. 10% of your giving

Andrew Wilson10% of your own cash to nobody. I was doing that before I was a content creator. >> All right. >> I was given >> doubt. >> Well, you can doubt it. >> I don't think that people with your ego do those sorts of things.

Andrew Wilson>> I know that's the problem with you is that you don't think that. You don't think that I do massive charity streams cuz you don't watch. You don't even listen. But I do them all the time. >> I've interacted with you enough to know that. >> You don't know [ __ ] I've done massive

Andrew Wilsoncharity streams. I do them every year. What are you talking about? I fed hundreds of families personally with the crucible. We've raised thousands of dollars to do it. What have you done? You don't live your you don't have in a

Andrew WilsonChristlike way. >> Which which things? Everything you bring up, you're wrong about. So which thing am I not leading in a way? >> Service of your ego. This is about preaching. This is about winning. This is about >> then why do I give so much money when nobody can see?

Charlie (Feminist)>> I don't think you [ __ ] do. I don't think you do. From the bottom of my heart, I do not believe. I prove it to you. What do I get? >> Nothing. I'm not going to give you [ __ ] >> Yeah, exactly. So, [ __ ] off. You got nothing.

Charlie (Feminist)>> And you can also write those off on taxes. So, not very charitable. >> Do you know you can only do that up to a certain amount? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Rachel, are you there? Can you hear us? >> Hello, Rachel.

Brian Atlas>> Can you hear me? >> Yes. Um, I don't know why Discord wasn't working, so we're just going to do it via the phone. Do you want to say anything? >> Okay. Yeah. Am I coming through? Okay.

Rachel Wilson>> Yes. >> Okay. Good. Um, well, I guess I'm just going to ask her the same question kind of that Andrew asked her, which is I mean, she said all this stuff about me that she got completely wrong, but what

Rachel Wilsonis it that you think Andrew or I are doing that is wrong or hypocritical? >> Um, I do feel that with your guys' platforms, what you do is Rachel, I'm

Charlie (Feminist)going to be honest with you. I'm not familiar with your platform. Um, I'm only familiar with your husband. >> You're only familiar with talking [ __ ] about her when she's not here. >> Well, hey man, I was trying to prove my point. I was trying to prove my point. >> Yeah, good job.

Rachel Wilson>> Um, >> okay. How does what you said about me prove your point? Like again, did you did somebody tell you that Andrew like hates on single moms and like shits on

Rachel Wilsonthem? And so you thought that because he's married to me and I had kids before I married him that like he's a bad Christian. Like I don't understand where

Charlie (Feminist)you're coming from with this. What what did he do wrong and what did I do wrong? >> Already anyway. >> The basis of Andrew's platform um is

Rachel Wilsonessentially to make women look stupid and humiliate them. Um [snorts] and I don't >> You're doing a perfectly good job of that all by yourself. He doesn't even need to help, but go on. >> All right.

Charlie (Feminist)>> Erroneous. >> Sorry. Sorry. >> It's okay. Um,

Brian Atlas>> I I lost my train of thought. >> Tell Tell the whole world why we're bad. >> The whole world. Why am I bad? >> You were saying that Andrew's whole purpose is to make women look dumb and

Charlie (Feminist)stupid. But that's how his like that's how his his thing works is he he goes on debate shows a lot of the time it's young women people with no formal debate experience such as myself to mock them

Charlie (Feminist)make them look stupid clip farm and [snorts] then gain money and notoriety this way. Um he doesn't engage in real thoughtful debate. I've seen people walk off from debating him because >> we got to do one thing at a time. One

Rachel Wilsonthing at a time. You can't just shotgun 500 things. So did you not have agency? Did you not have agency when you accepted this debate with Andrew? >> Yeah, I did.

Rachel Wilson>> Okay. How is then? What did he do wrong? Do you want him to treat you like, oh, like cuz you're a feminist, so do you want him to only debate men? Cuz if he did that, you'd say, well, he's a misogynist. He won't even debate women

Rachel Wilsoncuz he doesn't take them seriously enough or whatever. It's like, you guys make yourself look stupid. Andrew can't make you look stupid if you're not. And

Rachel WilsonI would go on here and I would make you look 10 times stupider because you're really really uninformed but really really confident about everything you say. You do not sound like a person with

Rachel Wilsona college education. You my homeschooled 13-year-old can explain per capita. Okay. You are not a very smart person. You're the one who put yourself in this position. And since you lost and you got

Rachel Wilsonhumiliated, you thought the thing to do would be attack me and Okay, so let's go there. Where did you get the idea that I'm promiscuous?

Charlie (Feminist)>> Uh, well, that you're promiscuous. Sorry, you just also said a bunch of [ __ ] that I was trying to keep track of. Um, >> yeah, you said that I'm promiscuous. So,

Charlie (Feminist)what do you what promiscuous means? I've slept with a lot of people, right? I would say that I think that having um children with multiple men is uh I think that that is more significant

Rachel Wilsonthan >> Okay. Well, I think it I think it would be if and I know why people assume this. I do understand why people assume it. They're just wrong in their assumptions. It would be wrong if I had been sleeping

Rachel Wilsonwith lots of people. If I had been carelessly getting pregnant with random people. That's not the case. I've spent my entire adult life only in three long-term committed relationships. One

Rachel Wilsonof which is a, you know, almost 20-y year relationship with Andrew. Now we're like 18 years in. We've been married since 2012. Prior to that, I was married for four years, as Andrew had to

Rachel Wilsonunfortunately explain. That ended not even because I left, but because he uh beat the crap out of me and was being pursued by the law and left the state. And so it was like abandonment. The

Rachel Wilsonfirst one was my high school boyfriend who I knew my whole life was with for five years. We had two children. He had his own personal problems and that did not and that did not work out. So I

Rachel Wilsonunderstand why people make the assumption, but the truth is I'm not promiscuous. I have an extremely low body count. I've never had one night stands. I've never cheated on anyone.

Rachel WilsonI've never just carelessly or casually had sex ever. So, I've only ever been with men that I at least at the time felt certain I was going to be with forever and have a family with.

Andrew Wilson>> Maybe you should have. >> I didn't get nerfed on the first two. I did get nerfed on the first two, I will admit. But I >> I did wonder. Hang on, Rachel. I did wonder one thing. If she had slept with three men but had aborted all of the

Andrew Wilsonchildren, would she still be promiscuous? >> She would have lived her life, it would have been better for her >> if she Yeah. If she had only slept with three men but aborted her children,

Andrew Wilsonwould she Hang on. Would she Hang on, Rachel. Stop for a second. If would it be the case? Was that too abusive? Shut up, Rachel. Was that too abusive, Charlie? So, Charlie, tell me, if she

Andrew Wilsonhad aborted her children with those three relationships, would she be less promiscuous or not? >> I think that frankly, in my opinion, her life would have been better spent.

Andrew Wilson>> Would she be less promiscuous, Charlie? >> Yes. Yeah, she'd be less permitting people. [laughter] Rachel, you should I'm talking about optics. >> Rachel, you should have killed You should have killed her kids, Rachel. >> Maybe she should have.

Rachel Wilson>> Maybe she should have. >> I wouldn't have been with her. Wait, so I It's less promiscuous if I killed the children. >> I mean, you're not killing children. You're having an abortion.

Rachel WilsonDid you just say to me did you just say to me that my life would be better if I had aborted my children?

Charlie (Feminist)>> Uh I mean and if I were in your shoes, I would have had a better time doing that. [laughter]

Rachel Wilson>> Wow. Well, I I regret to inform you that I love all of my children. I would never unal alive them. I would never wish that

Rachel Wilsonthey weren't born. Even if there was some mild inconvenience to me along the way or maybe I had to do a little work to raise them, uh I love my children. I

Charlie (Feminist)would never uh wish that they had not been born. And I'm certain my life would not have been better. Would you deny Would you deny that under patriarchy you are seen as like a I hate to use this

Charlie (Feminist)phrase but as a damaged woman on account of having had children with multiple men. Would you deny that that is unfortunately the common the common perspective?

Rachel Wilson>> I actually think it's people like you who think that about me. Andrew is a patriarch. He is a patriarchist. as you said, he's the one out here representing

Rachel Wilsonthe patriarchy and he looked at my situation and said she is worth marrying because if if I had been divorced because I was a [ __ ] or because I was

Rachel Wilsonnot submissive or because I was a cheater or because I was mentally unstable, any of the normal reasons that you do have a woman who's got kids from two guys, the usual reasons. I happened

Rachel Wilsonto be an outlier for the reasons why I was in that situation. And despite the fact that, and I've said this before, I thought Andrew was way too good for me. I tried to break up with him multiple times because I thought he's got a great

Rachel Wilsonlife with no baggage. Why would you know he could pick anybody? He should pick someone else other than me. That was my opinion. He was the one who looked at me and said, "No, I really think you're

Rachel Wilsongreat wife material, great mom material. I know that based on the fact that you're already a great mom." Yeah, your situation isn't the best, but all things considered, it's a deal I'm willing to take because he thought I was that

Rachel Wilsonawesome. Isn't that cool? What a good guy. And he was a great stepdad. And he he loves all the kids. He never treated the older ones like they were any

Rachel Wilsondifferent. Uh, you know, he never there was never any drama with him like, you know, talking bad about their dad or anything. He was a great guy. He's a he's a great guy. And it turns out that

Rachel Wilsonyou're the one who thinks I should have killed my kids. You would rather party and have fun and get [ __ ] degrees than produce human beings who are going to go off and create the future. >> Oh yeah, I would. >> It turns out It turns out that you are

Rachel Wilsonthe hateful, >> selfish, awful one who's willing to lie about people, say things that aren't true when you don't know what the truth. You've just defamed multiple people in front of millions.

Charlie (Feminist)>> You're willing to lie about people and you don't care about millions. So it turns out it turns out that it is not shows that is the selfless. >> I've also already had people spread

Andrew Wilsonclips around me that got hundreds of thousands of views and it was >> okay >> fine. >> I'm just just letting you know that she she was saying something accurate that millions of people will likely see this. Yes.

Charlie (Feminist)>> And they'll forget tomorrow. >> Um >> okay. But that wasn't the point. But again, at the end of the day, do you guys feel that the work that you do um

Charlie (Feminist)makes more women interested in turning towards Christian nationalism than being repulsed and disgusted by >> Well, it's not all about women, is it? >> It's not all about women. >> Well, I mean, if we're talking about

Charlie (Feminist)helping women, >> we're not just talking about helping women, though. I think helping men is helping >> helping men away from from normal healthy partners. normal healthy partners >> is too high or they've done I don't

Rachel Wilsonknow. >> Yeah, I would love a chance to tell her why I do this. Yes, go ahead. >> If I may. So, the reason I do what I do, which you said you don't know what I do, so I'll tell you. I write history books

Rachel Wilsonabout the history of women verbration and I regret to inform you that you don't know anything about it. You don't actually know how the movement happened, why the movement happened. You were under the impression that women couldn't

Rachel Wilsonget educated. I'm sure you're the average dope who thinks women, you know, were chained to the stove, couldn't leave the house. You were just used and abused by the evil patriarchy who just for some reason wanted to enslave them

Rachel Wilsonand make them into sex puppets. Blah blah blah. The stereotypical [ __ ] that all you female liberals and everybody else pretty much believes. >> Well, I never wrote >> I wrote a best-selling book correcting

Rachel Wilsonthe historical record. And that's what I do. I'm more of a historian and then I do argue with feminists like you because what you'll do to men like my husband and to Brian is instead of win the arguments which you cannot you can't win

Rachel Wilsonthe debate. You don't know what you're doing. You're an absolute bonehead at this. So what you do is attack them personally like you did Steven Crowder. You're probably going to go back after this and write a bunch of [ __ ] or say a bunch of [ __ ] about Brian and

Rachel WilsonAndrew because that's what all of you do after you leave the show, after you get your ass kicked all over the place. Well, Brian's been nice to me, so I'm not gonna say [ __ ] about Brian. >> I know. It's just Andrew. Smoky man bad >> nonsense. >> Yeah. >> I'm here to debunk your nonsense and

Rachel Wilsonkeep families together. I don't give a [ __ ] I'm not willing to sacrifice children and children's lives on the altar of women's feelings anymore. Women like you who think they're expendable,

Rachel Wilsonwho think they need to be killed in the womb so that you can party. Women like you who think that the family can be a bunch of gay dudes having designer babies together. Women like you who

Rachel Wilsondestroyed society and made this world a nightmare. I'm here to put your ideas in the grave where they belong once and for all. So, I'm here to support the patriarchy. I'm kind of like I'm kind of

Rachel Wilsonlike the secretary that helps the patriarchy and I just happen to be really [ __ ] good at it. So, if you ever want to talk more [ __ ] let me know and I'll set up a debate with you and I'll make you look 10 times stupider

Rachel Wilsonthan than even Andrew has. >> Okay? You should probably You're the one You're the one who should get back in the kitchen cuz you're useless. I don't know what what you contribute to society. Nothing. >> Well, I can't make

Rachel Wilson>> um So, they should probably not put me back in the kitchen cuz I'd burn the house down. >> You can learn. >> No, no interest in it. >> Oh, I'm going to let you guys finish her off because I've said everything that I need to say. But you're shouldn't lie

Charlie (Feminist)and gossip about people that you don't know. >> Rachel, >> very it's not very Christian. Rachel, I would be well, I'm not a Christian. Rachel, I would be interested in talking to you. Um,

Charlie (Feminist)if you ever wanted to debate because I am I am interested in what you have to say about women's liberation and the history of women's rights. >> Why is she going to debate you the second you're out of here? All you're going to do is talk [ __ ] about her husband like you did Steven Crowder when he wasn't here. >> Well, she said it.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. >> Stephen, when am I going to get the chance to talk to Steven Crowder? Why would I ever talk to Steven? Why does why do you think it's okay on a public broadcast that has thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people watching right this second to make those

Andrew Wilsondisparaging and horrible [ __ ] reference to Steven Crowder? He's Look, maybe you can say that I'm a bad man. That smoky man bad, but you can't say that about Steven Crowder. He's the opposite. Like that guy is [ __ ] he's

Charlie (Feminist)he's he's one of the greatest guys I've ever met in my life. Well, first off, uh my misconception about the extent of the abuse of his wife was corrected pretty quickly. So, I think that that's >> But why was it said?

Andrew Wilson>> That's what I thought he did. >> Yeah. But the thing is is like if you weren't sure, why even say anything about it at all? >> I was sure that that's what had happened. >> You were sure? >> And normally I look things up, but I can't do it right now.

Charlie (Feminist)>> Man. All right. >> I don't want to jump onto my phone in the middle of it. Can you can you Okay, maybe >> I'm sorry for saying that thing that I said about Steven Crowder. Steven Crowder, I'm sorry. I still think you're

Charlie (Feminist)a freak for not that he's going to watch this. A freak for uh advocating um against no fault divorce. I think that's evil and crazy and would hurt. So, please God, no. >> I could, but I want

Brian Atlas>> I don't want to. >> Wait, so you're sorry for saying it, but are you correct? Just clarifying. Are you correcting your statement or you just >> Yeah, I'm correcting my statement. Yeah,

SPEAKER_01I'm saying that it was corrected. >> A message from the government of Canada. >> Pasty George donated $2004. >> Thank you, Pasty. >> Charlie states that she is against authoritarianism. Yet, she and many

SPEAKER_01voters like her are tyrants with their voting power, which they use without fully knowing any context and rely solely on feelings. >> They're completely She just got done saying that you're less promiscuous because you have abortions. [laughter]

Andrew WilsonI don't know. And then she said, "No, that's not really true. I just optically >> be viewed as less uh promiscuous." >> Well, look, that's not what you said, though. You didn't you didn't say it's just a matter >> I would consider it to be less promiscuous

Charlie (Feminist)>> until because you know that that's an untenable and stupid position. >> I don't I don't think it is. I think that that does follow you in ways that uh hookups

Charlie (Feminist)that result in no pregnancies does. I think you would have to sleep with a people. >> Look, I agree. But on the other hand, uh again, >> I I'm a Christian ethicist, not a red

Andrew Wilsonpillar. I don't know where you ever got the idea I'm a red pillar or that my audience is red pill at all because they're not. There are it is indeed the >> to be fair, there's the red pill. >> Is this my show? >> You go on here a lot. >> Is it mine though? Or do I have the

Andrew Wilsoncrucible? >> You have the crucible. >> Yeah. So, the thing is is like I'm a Christian ethicist. There's many people in the whatever chat who don't agree with me who hate my guts. Now, not most of them, I will admit. >> Most of them like you. >> Yeah. I've won a lot of them over, but

Andrew Wilsonthey disagree with a lot of the things I say. Still, I didn't win them over for that. I won them over because I have better arguments. And the thing is is like you you don't and I wish you did, right?

Andrew Wilson>> I'm not a formal debater. >> You don't need to be a formal debater. If you if you tell the truth, you can argue. >> I mean, I'm honest. I'm saying what I believe is the truth. >> Yeah. Yeah. And the truth 5 seconds ago was you're less promiscuous if you have abortions. Like that's not that's not

Charlie (Feminist)true. >> I think that looks less promiscuous. That's not what you said. That's a nice addendum now, but it's not what you said. >> And I would consider someone that's had abortions to be less promiscuous.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Yeah. More uh we have some chats coming through. Uh hold on. Let me one sec. Here we have Pasty George.

SPEAKER_01>> A message from the government of Canada. >> Pasty George donated $2004. If the Whatever podcast creates incelss and men who hate women, then why are so

Brian Atlasmany men seeking traditional non-feministic women in other countries not influenced by feminism? [laughter] >> I I have one thought on this. If if we're doing an assessment of respective

Brian Atlasaudiences >> Mhm. >> And >> by your either worse or better based on the recency with which your I guess

Brian Atlascollective or audience has had sex. If it is the case that my audience has sex has on average sex more frequently than your audience, does that mean your

Brian Atlasaudience is worse than >> my audience? audience >> if they have sex more. >> Like if my audience has more sex or more frequent sex than your audience, >> it means you win. >> Do I do I win?

SPEAKER_01>> You win. [laughter] >> You do. You win. >> And I'm sorry, Brian. I didn't mean to. [clears throat] >> Pasty George donated $200. >> Finish that thought after this. >> Why is it that whenever a person who's

SPEAKER_01debating Andrew is losing the argument, they always resort to using his family against him? What a pathetic move. and lowblow method. >> They always will. Listen, you can't even really blame them, right? It doesn't

Andrew Wilsonmatter who it is. It doesn't matter if it's a world-class debater or not a world-class debater, you actually can't really blame them. What else is left to them? And then even when I engage and

Andrew Wilsonask for the hypocrisy, there's never any hypocrisy shown. It's just a mischaracterization of my positions every single time. Without fail, that is the case. >> All right, George, thank you for that. Appreciate it. We have some super chats.

Brian AtlasI'll just read. The smug look on her face when told she's uneducated on the topic while she thinks, "Oh, but you don't know. I took a class and paid $10,000 for someone to tell me about their favorite books and grade my

Brian Atlashomework." That's from David Ross. He also sent this. Agnostic comes from know, meaning knowledge, and is a claim on truth. Atheist is a claim on belief. Agnostic means you don't know. But you'd

Brian Atlasknow that if your master's degree was worth the loans. But you'd know that if your master's degree was worth the loans. Do you want a quick response to David Ross there? >> I'm not an atheist. I don't understand

Charlie (Feminist)what his point is. I said I'm agnostic, not an atheist. I don't know uh what I believe in. >> I know that I don't know when it comes to if there is a higher power. I don't think that we would be able to

Charlie (Feminist)comprehend it if there is one. And I think that human >> uh interpretations of it would be poultry. >> Okay. >> And inaccurate. There you go. There are my religious beliefs.

SPEAKER_01>> Ch XD donated $100. So Charlie's performance was so [ __ ] pathetic because rather than preparing for the debate topic, she spent all of

Charlie (Feminist)her time prepping for personal attacks. And we should pick your world view. >> I didn't actually prep at all uh for for personal attacks. That was something that I stumbled across uh on the

Charlie (Feminist)internet >> um when someone was arguing with your wife. That was it. It was happen stance. It was a secret surprise. And I went, "Oh,

SPEAKER_01interesting." >> Politics of personal destruction in the window. >> Donated $100. Chuck, this is why we voted for Trump. Thank you for turning this native

SPEAKER_01Angelino Republican in a sea of Democrats in the heart of LA. Prop 50 is unconstitutional. Coastal/academia elites ruined Cari. Yeah, California used to be a great place to live when I

Charlie (Feminist)was a kid. >> I love California. >> You would, but I don't love it anymore. [laughter] >> All right, that's I loved I pro I voted yes on Prop 50. I think it's great. >> I think it's awesome.

Andrew Wilson[clears throat] >> Uh, all right. Well, um, any final thoughts from either of you? >> Yeah, I'll just say, um, I still don't

Andrew Wilsontake any of this personally. I never do. But ultimately, um, that's all you were left with was just a sea of disparaging personal attacks on people who weren't even here. And for what? Like, >> cuz I think your worldview is

Andrew Wilsonhypocritical. I think that you >> I know, but can you just tell me what the hypocrisy is? >> Do we want to do this? >> I just want to know the one. If you had to reduce it, if you could just reduce

Andrew Wilsonit to one thing, >> one thing, what's the actual hypocrisy that I espouse that I don't live that or that I don't believe? Um, I

Charlie (Feminist)think that the way that you espouse your worldviews and the way that you conduct your uh streaming platform and debates,

Charlie (Feminist)I do think that it um encourages young men and women to um essentially hate each other. If you want to pass that to me, >> that's not hypocrisy

Charlie (Feminist)>> again. But what I'm saying is is that you are like putting like like conditioning young men to see women uh who are less than perfect as partners they should never

Andrew Wilsonpursue as disgusting having a negative. When do I do that age? >> I never do that. I always have the nuance of the position. The position like >> primarily what I see is cruelty

Charlie (Feminist)>> to who? the typically like the young women that you debate with that are sex workers. >> Why? What? What do I say? That's cruel >> about their the things that they've done, their lifestyle. The way them and

Charlie (Feminist)ruins them. >> It does. It doesn't it >> then how does your wife's conduct? >> Is my wife a prostitute? >> I I think three baby daddies is pretty >> Is that a prostitute? >> No, it's not the same.

Andrew Wilson>> No, it's not the same thing. So why are you making the equivocation over and over and over again? If I look at a sex worker and say, "Hey, little to your your son one day is going to look up your [ __ ] on the internet." Do you

Andrew Wilsonthink that that's the equivalent of saying, "Hey, you have stepbros >> or your mom was married multiple." Do you think that that's even in the same [ __ ] universe? And how is that

Andrew Wilsonshaming pointing that out to them? One day these women's children are going to have people come over to them and say, "Hey man, I jerked off to your mom's [ __ ]

Andrew Wilson>> Tell me I'm lying. Tell me I'm telling some saying something that's not true right now." >> That they're going to jerk off to pictures. >> No. these kids who are coming from these

Andrew Wilsonsex workers after they're all done with their funnies, okay, are in school, people are going to come over to them and they're going to be like, "Hey man, just to torture them." Cuz kids are cruel.

Andrew Wilson>> And they'll say, "Hey, I just looked at your mom's vagina last night. It was great. I fapped to it." Like, are you going to sit here really and pretend that that's not going to happen to these

Charlie (Feminist)kids? Cuz it is. I mean, if you have a hot mom, that's already happening to you anyway. Whether or not she does sex are coming up to your mom is so hot. If somebody comes over and says your mom is hot to your mom.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. If somebody comes over If someone comes over and says, "Hey, your mom is hot." Haha. Right. That's >> a banger. I'm jerking off to her. >> Even that is nothing like, "Look at your

Charlie (Feminist)mom getting double penetrated, bro." Haha. Do you understand the difference there? >> It's gross. But again, >> do you understand the difference? I do think that to me >> those Yeah. You don't care. You don't care.

Andrew Wilson>> Both would be considered society tainted and fallen. One may be more so than the other. >> No [ __ ] >> But I still think that it is. >> What's the Where's the hypocrisy then when I tell sex workers this truth that

Andrew Wilsonthat's going to happen? >> Because you have as a uh you have forgiven your wife for her past actions. >> No, no, no. There was no forgiveness required here. What do you mean? Were you talking about doing a good thing or whatever, man?

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. >> Or you looked past her her >> No, never said that either. >> All right. Were you talking about like having those step kids? Like it was a good thing that you did, >> wasn't it? It's >> a neutral thing that you did.

Andrew Wilson>> Oh, it's fine. [laughter] >> It's a neutral thing that I did. >> Okay, got it. And what would be the moral thing that I could have done instead of that?

Andrew Wilson>> Uh, you could not use your platform to [ __ ] all over me. This was 20 Look, this was this was like almost 20 years ago before there was a platform >> increasing. >> Oh my god, you're so [ __ ] [ __ ] See, you're like impossible to have a

Charlie (Feminist)conversation. >> Not make these decisions, but I think that, you know, you should be uh clinging before you, you know, throw stones or whatever. >> Throw stones at who? >> Women. [sighs and gasps] >> You mean sex workers?

Andrew Wilson>> People, sex workers, women that have had sex, women that have had abortions. >> No, it's not women that have had sex. Okay. The idea is that you're still trying to move to like if I was a serial killer and I said it's bad to be a

Andrew Wilsonserial killer. Am I a hypocrite? >> Yeah. Yeah, probably. >> You're [ __ ] It's just what a [ __ ] tart. All right, Brian. I'm done. I'm good. >> All right.

Brian Atlas>> So, uh Andrew, I it has gone long. Uh what we are going to do now, um if you want to stay for it, you can. We're going to do a roast session. The chat >> Yeah, go ahead. >> They're they're begging. I'll stay. I'll

Brian Atlasstay. You'll stay for the roast. Okay. So, >> what is the roast? >> Uh, people can roast. They can roast me. They can roast Mary back there who's not even on the show. They can roast you. >> It's going to be just, >> you know, I don't think it'll be that much towards you to be honest. You've

Brian Atlas>> probably a lot towards me. >> Um, yeah. You know, I think Andrew So, uh, the debates pretty much concluded. Um, we're going to let those come in. So, guys, $69 roast will go for 10 15 minutes. I got to get Andrew some food

Brian Atlashere. I got to We got to get him out of here. Some uh pineapple pizza. Pineapple pizza. We got to get him something. We got to get him something.

Brian Atlas>> Um for for Charlie, we have some um uh >> I have some applesauce in the refrigerator if you want some applesauce. Um >> I'm good. I presumably I'm leaving after this, correct?

Brian Atlas>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Unless you were trying to purchase the In-N-Out for for us. >> No. >> You seem like very chivalous, so I figured like >> I am very chivalous. Women say so all

Brian Atlasthe time. >> Are Sir, what's your orientation? By >> okay. >> Is it true that you dated Hassan though? Is that Is that just >> I've never talked to the guy. That's >> You're in LA though. Don't you move in his circles or whatever?

SPEAKER_01>> No. No, I don't know those people. >> All right. $69 TTS. Get it? >> Donated $69. Why is it that when a leftist loses a debate and or cannot make a valid point

Charlie (Feminist)that they immediately resort to personal attacks? College educated. What a [ __ ] joke, Lau. >> Hey, manner devour. Remember when you were in my DMs um sending me pictures of

Charlie (Feminist)yourself, begging me to show my uh former roommate Palm B to convince you um to convince her to date you? Do you remember that? >> What? >> Cuz I do.

Brian Atlas>> Huh? >> Wow. Okay. All right. Uh wow, guys. Streamlabs.com/ whatever. $69 roast. Get

SPEAKER_01them in. >> Barrier wisdom donated $69. >> Chuck pls, take your Australian dollars and walk down for OST on a Friday night.

SPEAKER_01And tell me with all that pro- feminism has has ever fixed the problem here. I'm sorry for the families that have to live there.

Brian Atlas>> This Pat pasty pasty George seems to be your biggest fan. He He >> enthusiastic. >> Do you want to respond to the Figuroa Street kind? >> I don't know what Figuroa Street is.

Brian Atlas>> I'm just going to grab a beer. >> Yeah. Do you want champagne, by the way? There's there's a >> champagne. Never mix. >> Never. Okay. >> I'm not much of a drinker, you know. So, uh there's some super chats that I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to read here. Cole Marshall, let me sell you on my worldview. Insults his wife. And now you admit you just pulled it out because you were unprepared. Do you want to respond to that, Charlie? From Cole?

Charlie (Feminist)>> No. I said I did not prepare uh my I said I did not prepare on uh the insults to his wife. That was something that I stumbled upon. >> Actually, I must admit to be completely

Andrew Wilsonfair. Um we have debates going on all the way through the 16th to Debatecon. And this debate today was actually the only one I also didn't prepare for to be

Andrew Wilsontotally fair. And I usually always prepare for debates, but not this one. I just didn't think I needed to. Well, you guys have debated before. Um, >> that's why I didn't think I needed to.

Brian Atlas>> David Ross, agnostic means I'm not sure. Atheist means I don't believe. The purpose of a college education used to be to learn things. >> Didn't we do this one? >> Root words from the Greek. The point is that you throwing around master's degree is

Brian Atlasapparently meaningless >> from David Ross. Thank you for the super chat, David Ross. You have a response there or >> I don't know what he's getting at. I said agnostic. It's I don't I'm not

Brian Atlasquite sure. >> By the way, I was just curious. You you had mentioned earlier on in the debate, just as a curious question, that you were on uh testosterone. I was just curious why. >> Let's not get into that. >> Were you a bodybuilder or >> No, >> you're going to transition, weren't you? >> Yeah.

Charlie (Feminist)>> Yeah. >> You would have honestly like you would have been a hot dude. >> I was I was a really I was a beautiful little twink. I was I was gorgeous. Oh, so you did sort of transition or >> Yeah, for 10 years I

Brian Atlas>> Oh, 10 years >> presented as a man. Yeah. >> What was your name that you >> Charlie >> still Charlie? I guess that's the benefit if you have a genderneutral name >> and you transition like that's kind of a perk. >> Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> Well, real name might not be Charlie. >> Whoa. Yeah, you're you know what? She You look like an uh Ethal

Brian Atlas>> like Ethel Kane. >> Did I mis? Yes. >> Ethel Kane. >> You Yeah. Okay. Sort of. I don't know. Um Red Fox Charlie, what is your economic framework? Socialist, Marxist, capitalist. >> Uh socialist.

Brian Atlas>> Socialist. >> Socialist. Got it. Okay, guys. $69 roast. Those were just some super chats. Streamlabs.com/ whatever if you want to get some roasts in. We do have a few here. Let's go with Chaw. Thank you,

SPEAKER_01man. >> Chaw XD donated $69. Every time I see Charlie debate, I start off thinking her world view is dumb, but she's at least being good faith. And

Charlie (Feminist)every [ __ ] time she proves she's just the moral equivalent of human-shaped slime. >> Just be nice to me and I'll be nice to you. That's how it works. If I feel

Brian Atlasinsulted, I'm going to bite back. H. All right. Thank you, Chaw. We have Flavius. I sorry I can't pronounce the last part.

SPEAKER_01>> Flavia assassinus is donated $69. This 304 pro-choice sophist had the eyes of Gollum. Be aware, lads.

Brian Atlas>> I have done Gollum cosplays multiple times. I love Gollum. >> Flavius, thank you for that. Uh, right

Brian Atlasguys, if uh we'll do five more minutes or so of the roasts, a quick few final messages, guys. Guys, if you enjoyed the show and you want to learn how to become

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Brian AtlasVenmo Cash App, whatever pod. And then once again, $69 roast. We'll I'll just read this one. Send it through Streamlabs next time. But thank you, Ashes Rose. I hope you realize how wrong you are, Charlie. You're a confused,

Brian Atlasbroken little boy girl or whatever you are. You're wrong on every level. What? saying, are you saying I'm androgynous? >> What are your pronouns, by the way? I'm just I should have asked that at the whatever >> they them.

Charlie (Feminist)>> She >> I go by Yeah, she >> he can you you you're fine with he? >> Yeah, but the thing is is that I you know very much present as a as a woman for my job.

SPEAKER_01>> Leave that guy alone. >> Thank you. >> Okay, we have Pasty George here. Okay. >> Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01Pasty George donated $70. Charlie, I don't know what else I can say to you other than you are one of the most fact in the head feminists I have ever had the opportunity to listen to, but I do not hate you.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah, you do. If you wouldn't live next door to where you hater, >> George, thank you, man. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01Paul donated $69. Keep farming those fatherless men. Andrew cheering for you, brother. Crack another tall boy for your wife. >> Yeah, we're going to need another one after tonight.

SPEAKER_01Paul, thank you. We have black here coming in. Thank you, Paul. And then black. There it is.

SPEAKER_01Black donated $69. Why is it that the entire time Chucky has not made one intellectual rational argument? It's just pure rambling and

Charlie (Feminist)illogical facious statements. I have a mast's but can't form a coherent though. >> I mean to be fair we did have the

Charlie (Feminist)broadest topic. We did have an incredibly broad topic. Um, and that's how in my opinion I would

Charlie (Feminist)characterize uh both myself and uh Andrew. No offense, but you're a great debater. You are. But this did feel rambly today >> for me. >> Not for me.

Andrew Wilson>> Oh, [laughter] for >> I was just refuting whatever you I gave you a lot of rope. I wanted to make sure that you had a lot of rope you could >> Thank you. >> Yeah. You have a master's in in literature.

Brian Atlas>> Fantasy literature literature. >> Yes. That was my research focus. >> Would you like if would you like if >> How old was Frodo? >> When he left the Shire, he was in his 50s.

Andrew Wilson>> See, nobody ever knows that. That's actually You see, Chuck, now that would have been great. We could have really had an olive branch if it was the case that you knew that Frodo was in his 50s by the time he left the Shire. Almost

Andrew Wilsonnobody knew. By the way, the audience put one in the chat if you didn't know that. Almost nobody because Elijah, you know, as Elijah Wood, he plays him and he doesn't look 50, but he was 50 when he left the [ __ ] Shire. >> Yeah. There was a huge uh time um time

Charlie (Feminist)period before they left. >> Yeah. A huge gap. And in in the movies it was like that >> 3 seconds. Yeah. >> Yeah. I can I can talk Tolken, who by the way um hated feminism. >> He's my hero. I love him. But he hated

Andrew Wilsonfeminism. >> But he also Yeah. Hang on. Hang on though. But he also loved Catholicism and Eluvatar >> was the entirety of what he was do you know what he was conveying through

Charlie (Feminist)Eluvatar and the great tree from uh from the elven lands like do you do you know what the correlation there was? Uh I mean it is kind of the sylmerelion is kind of the Bible with elves in the

Charlie (Feminist)sense that there is a grand creator. Um all you know all actions are uh foretold and determined by uvatar. We you know the people of Arda were simply >> oh my god who the hell

Charlie (Feminist)>> you can spew Warcraft. I can spew [ __ ] Lord of the Rings. You [ __ ] >> Spew Warcraft. I was a huge I had all the books. I have all the books. Oh, I was just going to ask like so um if you

Brian Atlashad been around in like the 1920s like would you have like would you have tried to hook up hook hook up with Tolken >> Tolken >> Tolken Tolken? >> No. What the >> He's your like favorite author and you

Charlie (Feminist)wouldn't like at least give him like >> he was a handsome young man. >> No, he was but he was very religious, deeply in love with his wife. Hell no. Well, like before he had the wife, >> but they were they were like they were

Brian Atlaslike childhood uh from very young teenager. I guess I would have to >> Yeah, but if she had died of the of the pox, she had >> she had the pox. >> She [laughter] had the pox. >> I was about to say bubonic plague, but that was definitely way better.

Brian Atlas>> She had the a few centuries. >> Yeah. >> But like Yeah. The the wife's not in the picture. >> The pox. >> No, it's because it's uh No, he's he's >> he he's British, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> English. Um,

Brian Atlas>> like >> that's why the orcs all sound English. >> Yeah, >> cuz they all were English. >> Do you know the Scouse? Like the Scousers? >> The what? >> Scousers. >> What is that? >> Manchester. Wait, no. >> What? >> Liverpool. So

Brian Atlas>> Liverpool. Yeah, >> Liverpool. I got my my Yeah. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Like if you were a Scouser and he was just like I don't know in Liverpool, like would you >> would you like show him your ankles or something?

Charlie (Feminist)>> Um, no. If Tolken was alive today, I would uh >> hate him. You would [ __ ] hate him. >> No, I would um I would adore him and I would probably

Charlie (Feminist)uh attend all of his lectures and try to I'm unfortunately a teacher's pet. Um so I would just >> You wouldn't date him though. Like think about the royalties. >> No, I don't care about the money.

Charlie (Feminist)>> Okay. All right. this the the estate, you know, but I realize you realize that Tolken would have [ __ ] hated your worldview like with a passion. >> That Tolken would have had a lot of grace for me as a human being. He did.

Andrew WilsonHe was He did have a couple of um >> Stop it. Get some help. >> He would have loathed friends. >> He loathed No, no, no, no, no, no.

Andrew Wilson>> He did. He was friends with >> Oh my god. No. These are people who came out later and said, "We were buddies." And then when it's investigated, they're like, "Well, we're not really sure if they're actually buddies or not." That's what that's in fact actually the case,

Charlie (Feminist)isn't it? With >> Tolken about those two. >> I'm pretty I'm pretty confident >> never commented on it, but I'm fairly certain that he the only thing he ever said about homosexuality was that at the age of 19, he had never heard the word.

Charlie (Feminist)So, I think he probably did the kind of not to say the typical Catholic thing, but also the typical Christian thing, but like hate the sin, love the sinner, you know? I think >> that's not a Christian doctrine. And it's not Catholic doctrine. >> Well, that's been my experience. I know

Charlie (Feminist)a lot of Christians that I hold in high regard who uh even if they disagree with >> heretics, >> you know, my lifestyle, they still um treat me with love and respect. And I think that that's >> Yeah. They treat you with enablement, but the thing

Andrew Wilson>> Oh, sorry. Sorry. >> Wisdom to I I didn't mean to cut you off there. Oh, I was just saying like look uh yeah

Andrew WilsonTolken, did you notice the distinct lack of homosexual characters in all of his works? All of them. Not one. Not one. Just saying.

Andrew Wilson>> Oh, well, you weren't really allowed to write about those things back in the day. >> [ __ ] You were to. >> I also don't think >> you were to. That's such [ __ ] >> So, I have a whole presentation on this if you're ever interested in watching. >> Yeah, I'll watch it. I'll tear it apart.

Andrew WilsonLook, I'm a big Tolken fan myself. My the very first book that I ever wrote read that was technically an adult book was The Hobbit. Still my favorite book to this day. I've read everything by

Andrew WilsonTolken. And I, you know, I love the guy's work and the entirety of the imagery that he was conveying was Christian imagery. And he drew on all of

Andrew Wilsonthe most horrific virtues of mankind. And he personified them in the races that he created. That's what Eloverar was doing. And that's I mean Gandalf was

Andrew Wilsonan angel. Like all of this was around the idea of uh of Christian ethics. The entire tale was about Christian ethics and it was about how small people can do great things in the with the grace of

Andrew WilsonGod and how they can be selected and have angelic protection. That's what Gandalf was. >> Yes. It was about uplifting the object. >> No, it wasn't just about uplifting the object. It was about the fact, >> you know, central to

Andrew Wilson>> Aragorn was a powerful man and he came into what was his righteous the thing that righteously belonged to him through the pathway of kings. Like this was not a oh it was just about the little guy

Andrew Wilsonwho was fighting his way up. The man was aristocracy and you were supposed to have faith that the aristocracy was good. Even if it was the case that they were thrown out by uh an order of imposttors like Denithther, you were

Charlie (Feminist)still allowed to go take which was your natural birthright and that kings weren't bad and evil. >> If I recall correctly, I do believe that um I can't remember which ancestor of Aragorns abdicated the throne. But I believe it was willingly and that's when

Charlie (Feminist)the stewards of Gondor were put up. Mind you, Dennis was incredibly uh you know corrupt. Absolutely. Um and you know it's a victim of his own pride. Um, however,

Charlie (Feminist)>> well, he was he was under the control he was under the control of the ring. He was under control of of Sorrow. >> Yeah. Through the palunteer. Um, but I think that Aragorn's uh an important part of Aragorn's journey is um do you

Charlie (Feminist)remember the scene where Phamir and Aayowin are laying in the houses of healing and the uh the elderly woman um gives him Kingsweed, I believe, and she's foil. >> Kings Kings what? >> Kings foil.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, king's foil. You you have your master's degree in sorry so sorry. >> So my memory is bad. >> She should know this foil. >> You should know this if you have your masters in like Tolken or whatever. >> Forgetting that it was Kingsville instead of Kings.

Andrew Wilson>> I mean that's you have a master's degree. >> Forgetting the name [laughter] of a of a of a of a leaf. >> I didn't forget the name and I'm a casual fan. I'm just pointing that out. >> Casual fan. Casual fan.

Charlie (Feminist)>> All right. I hate to break it to you, but uh the the [gasps] Tolken's body of work, most of it was published posthumously and everything is

Charlie (Feminist)like different versions of the various stories. The Sylmerelion is a cobbled together um loose cannon of the various drafts uh by Christopher um that Christopher Tolken put together >> his son.

Charlie (Feminist)>> Um >> when you spend a lot to to pour through >> I mean my god the unfinished tales the histories the sylmerelion uh it gets bogged down in your head especially when

Charlie (Feminist)you consider that every freaking character has three different names. Some of them only mentioned once. Do you know how hard he wrote back of those? But that's because he wrote a new language. Yes. >> Yes. But that's because he wrote a new

Andrew WilsonBut the thing is is like none of that has anything to do with ultimately >> the entirety of the story of the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit being the first in the series ultimately. I consider it not even a trilogy, right? It's for you

Andrew Wilsondon't even get the proper context without The Hobbit. And so the thing is is like the entire thing was an was was an indictment on the social order of communism and socialism and the

Charlie (Feminist)uplifting of Christian ethics over all other ethical systems. 100% that was the case. >> I think uh Tolken would say that he hates allegory and that you're allowed to interpret his works however you like.

Andrew Wilson>> That would be allegorical. >> To he's he's not he doesn't like allegory. >> Yeah. But what you just said was allegorical. >> What do you mean? Well, so you're saying that you can interpret his works as

Charlie (Feminist)being allegory, right? >> Uh I think if the author explicitly says it's not allegory and you do so anyway, there's some workaround with like death

Charlie (Feminist)of the author that you can go with that. But I think that labeling um Lord of the Rings as allegorical. >> He literally said he got the entire idea from his faith. It was drawn on his faith. >> I would love to see a reference to that.

Charlie (Feminist)>> And by the way, not only that, the Catholic Church, right? >> He wrote it due to his love of languages. That was that was he wanted to create mythologies. >> He wrote a story on the basis of the languages.

Andrew Wilson>> He wanted to create mythologies. That's what he wanted. Mythologies which would encapture Christian ethics in a way that Western nations could understand. That's what he said himself. And yes, I do. I

Charlie (Feminist)have Christopher Tolken's footnotes. He wrote tons of footnotes. >> Yes, I am well aware of the footnotes that he wrote. I I assure you. Anyway, but my point is um if I forget the name

SPEAKER_01of King >> Wisdom donated $69. >> I don't know if I can forgive you as an open prostitution track. >> After California reduced enforcement laws in the streets

Brian Atlas>> streets in the streets [laughter] forett mystery. >> Okay. Alfa California reduced enforcement laws in 2022. Sorry, we were talking a little bit. Street

SPEAKER_01solicitation increased. You want to respond to that? >> I didn't even finish. >> I don't even know what it was about Figaro Street. >> Okay, I'll blow it up again. >> He thinks I should watch

SPEAKER_01>> Bario Wisdom donated $69. >> Figuro Street is known as an open prostitution track. >> After California reduced enforcement

SPEAKER_01laws in 2022, street solicitation increased. This is a policy of failure, not a moral mystery.

SPEAKER_01Okay. >> Okay. >> Lana donated $69. >> Who? >> Mary is scary looking. >> She's not. >> Who's Mary? Is that a Tolken? Lord of

Brian Atlasthe Rings character. >> Is that Mary? >> Yeah. >> Oh, the girl who works for me. >> Uh-huh. >> Oh, I thought it was like a character in >> the [laughter] >> in the the Lord of the Rings. No. >> Or the Hobbit or something. I don't

Brian Atlasknow. >> It's a character in the Bible, Brian. >> It is. I Well, yeah, but I mean, why would you [laughter] say that about her? Um, Dane Snder. I'm 54 years old. My father was a 1% outlaw biker. My stepfather was a sailor and not nearly

Brian Atlasthe man Andrew is, but I was blessed to have him. Andrew, go to your hotel room, think of what a great man you are, and forget about this shrew. You're there, man. She's a beach.

Andrew WilsonDane Snyder. >> Thank you, Dan Snyder. $69. >> Do not disparage the great name of Dne Snider. >> Dane Snider. >> We have Airborne Animal.

SPEAKER_01>> Airborne Animal donated $69. You can see how lost and unhappy Charlie is by her cold dead doll eyes. She lashes out to spread the poison to

SPEAKER_01everyone around her. Probably more than just words in her relationships. Stats don't lie. >> My dead doll eyes.

Charlie (Feminist)>> How long were you taking tea, by the way? >> Approximately 6 months. >> 6 months. >> Yeah. >> And you got so muscular that you didn't know what to do with yourself. >> I got really freaking buff. It was It was awesome.

Brian Atlas>> I heard that. >> So cool. the in like female bodybuilders the certain organs >> the clitoris >> the the gi ginor gigantic

Brian Atlas>> he's going to ask you if you got a big click Charlie that's what he's asking >> that would not be appropriate >> but that's what you were asking >> that was not that would not be appropriate [laughter] >> I don't I don't >> I just Is that a compliment for like you

Brian Atlasknow how [laughter] they you know like big dick energy like big [ __ ] energy >> you know what to be honest it didn't actually um it's it's still

Charlie (Feminist)I think just if I had been born male I would have had a micro penis. So mine is still normal looking and it is um I'm sad every single day about it that I didn't get a bigger one. It makes me so

SPEAKER_01mad. >> God denied me what was my do. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> No. No. >> Thank you.

SPEAKER_01>> She's so broken inside. Donated $69. Amazing how Chuck has a 10 body count yet uses it as a pjorative against Andrew's wife. Almost like it's a Freudian slip knowing it's morally

Charlie (Feminist)reprehensible to be a rainbows. >> Multiply it by three and that's the real number. >> It's always Look, it's it's always the case. >> I I'm sorry. I haven't had sex with more than 10 men. I don't know what to tell you. I

Brian Atlas>> How many? >> He said she said 10. >> I'm going to have to count. I don't >> You date women, too, right? >> Yeah, but they don't consider that intercourse. That's a body. >> And I would also >> That's a body for sure. What's the >> I feel you kind of strike me at like I

Brian Atlasfeel like you have at least with the women, I don't know about the men, >> like you have game like you've smashed like probably like all kinds of hoes in Hollywood. >> No. [laughter] >> Like you've just rised up all these

Brian Atlas>> No. >> Oh, sorry. Like Long Beach is more your >> None of them. I'm like a dweeb. Dude, >> what do you mean? >> Lesbians aren't >> Women like that. Women like the nerdy thing. They love that. They love that.

SPEAKER_01>> Um, I'd have to count. >> You have Yeah. Yeah. You You probably, >> but it's not that much. Like, I'm not >> based on donated $69. >> You kill it. >> Hey, shutter. Did you happen to trip and fall into the DM circle of vipers that

Andrew Wilsonincludes Hillary? >> Good question. Have you ever had any communication with Hillary Crowder, Chuck? >> No. >> Would you lie? >> No. I've never spoken to Hillary Crowder. >> Would you like >> I didn't even remember the name of the

Charlie (Feminist)dude. All I remember is that he was the no fault divorce guy and I was like, "Oh, didn't that guy abuse his wife?" >> I didn't realize he was a personal friend. I thought he was a politician guy. >> Steven Crowder.

Andrew WilsonYou thought he was a politician? >> No, no, no. Not a politician, but like some like a political talking head dude that um not in the circles that I run in. >> You realize that those are people though? They're people. Like I'm here in

Andrew Wilsonfront of you. You know, I'm a human being. So is Crowder. Like, don't you think it's terrible to say hor those horrible things about him that are just aren't true? Shouldn't you at least say the horrible things that you think are

SPEAKER_01true or that you know are true? >> I thought it was true. >> Pasty George here. Thanks, man. >> Pasty George donated $70. >> Pasty.

SPEAKER_01>> I was wondering why Charlie was a bit chunky and had a funny shape. Too much testosterone ruins a woman's body. Mental illness strikes again.

Charlie (Feminist)Um, well, I haven't been on tea since uh first time was 2016, second time was 2021, but I'll have you know that my waist to hip ratio is uh 0.71.

Charlie (Feminist)I'm just wearing a baggy shirt. I don't know what to tell you, man. >> Not that it matters. Not that it would even matter if I was fat.

SPEAKER_01>> Okay, >> but sorry. Barrier Wisdom donated $69. Chuck has been roasted enough, so I'll roast Brixen. Brixen, you need to try

SPEAKER_01harder. You got fat, bro. Come on a run with me tomorrow morning, 4 a.m. >> No ragrits, simpify. >> Hey, I've been losing some weight. >> Day. >> No, no, no. I've been losing some weight. >> Yeah, looking trim.

Brian Atlas>> I've been looking I don't know about you. >> Hey, I'm surprised you didn't say anything. It's [laughter] been it's been I've lost like 10 pounds last since last time I saw you. >> That is true. You have lost a little weight. I mean that's true. >> Thank Thank you, Andrew. Thank you. Appreciate it. True.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. But uh Charlie, you are you going to join us in our weight loss? We should we should all join Weight Watchers together. >> There's nothing wrong with being fat though. You heard Charlie. Well, I mean, like, how would how would if I was fat,

Andrew Wilsonhow would that be relevant to the >> I mean, it wouldn't it wouldn't be ultimately relevant to any debate points unless unless the debate point was, >> you know, like around I don't know,

SPEAKER_01fatness, I guess. >> Yeah. >> Airborne Animal donated $69. You can see how lost and unhappy Charlie is by her cold, dead eyes.

SPEAKER_01She lashes out to spread the poison to everyone around her. Probably more than just words in her relationships. Stats don't lie. >> Airborne animal. Thank for the roast. Do

Charlie (Feminist)you have a response to him? >> Uh, I'm very happy. >> Okay. >> I'm the happiest I've been in my entire life. >> Actually, >> as the sex you were born as, >> like in this moment right now,

Brian Atlas[laughter] >> just hanging out with Brian Allison and Andrew Wilson. Just you, Brian. That's all I ever wanted >> was to hang out with you. >> But you're the happiest you've ever been is the sex you were born as. >> The what?

Andrew Wilson>> You're the happiest you've ever been is the sex you were born as. >> Well, I mean, isn't that what I'm doing right now? >> Are you the sex you were born as? >> Yeah. Am I not doing that right now? >> Was the sex you were born as female? >> Yes.

Charlie (Feminist)>> Oh, okay. Well, then >> did you think >> This is why it's so hard to talk about drtransition stuff. People don't get the they don't get it. I'm FTMF.

Andrew Wilson>> I get it. I do understand.

SPEAKER_01>> Pasty George donated $70. One thing that confuses me, Charlie was for the phony COVID pre- pandemic, its lockdowns and taking away people's rights, yet is

Andrew Wilsonagainst anti-abortion laws and deportation of illegal criminals. >> But that's freedom. [laughter] I don't get it either. I don't get it. Honestly, Pasty George is right. Like, I

Charlie (Feminist)don't get it. >> That's okay. You don't have to get it.

Charlie (Feminist)I'm sure you've argued with this about people that are much better debaters than I am and you still hold the view that you do. So, I don't know if I'm going to change your mind on it.

SPEAKER_01>> I was willing to listen. >> We have this >> Blest >> Blest donated $69. Andrew, why is it that no one can ever

SPEAKER_01explain to me how there can possibly be a gender pay gap if gender is a social construct and I'm assured it is not real? Because I can identify however I feel. >> Well, what they would say is they would

Andrew Wilsonsay, well, the leftist would say yes, but based on that social construct, there's pre-existing conditionals which then inform people's views. And when they're informed on those views, it creates institutional biases. And it's

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