4 Kids 4 Dads?! PhD Feminist HEATED DEBATE With Dropout Brian?! POLYCULE E-GIRL?! | Dating Talk #251

Date: 2025-07-14

Duration: 7h 57m

Guests

Brian Atlas

EElizabeth (4 Kids)>

AAmanda (Security)>

JJenna (Bartender)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Eugina(guest)

SPEAKER_06Elizabeth (4 Kids)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Amanda (Security)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Pia(guest)

SPEAKER_10Julie (SPC)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Kelly (Cars)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Jenna (Bartender)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Sin(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentKelly reveals she just exited polycule with non-binary homeless comedian living in hearse

Key MomentElizabeth: 4 kids with 4 different fathers. Tubes tied.

Key MomentBrian announces men's rights nonprofit: child support, alimony, custody reform, banning circumcision

ControversyCircumcision debate: Brian vs Eugina

Key MomentEugina lost virginity at 31 to Black Muslim comedian from TBS show

Key MomentJulie: had sex within 5 minutes of meeting Vegas man, continued seeing him 5-6 times

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Sin, Eugina (PhD feminist), Kelly (polycule exit), Elizabeth (4 kids 4 dads), Amanda, Jenna, Julie (SPC), Pia (electrician).

SPC/Sovereign Citizen Discussion

Julie explains secured party creditor status and ministry.

Elizabeth 4 Kids 4 Dads

Kids at ages 18, 21, 24, 26. Tubes tied.

Circumcision Debate

Brian: genital mutilation should be banned. Eugina: hygiene benefits.

Feminism Extended Debate

Brian vs Eugina: selective service, patriarchy, domestic violence stats.

Eugina Lost Virginity at 31

To Black Muslim comedian from TBS show, met on Hinge in Brooklyn.

Julie Vegas Story

Had sex within 5 minutes of meeting man in Vegas. Continued seeing him 5-6 times.

Transcript

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Sin>> She was 19. >> She was an adult about what her dad's doing over here. >> So, I sent her pictures and apparently when we went to a trip to Mexico, it wasn't his wife's birthday.

Sin>> You ruined that trip. Crazy. Like I was like, "What the hell?" Like it just shot. Yeah, I know. I didn't even know until, you know, she told me that's my that's my mom's birthday. I was like, "Wow, that's >> I literally had that happen to me one

Kelly (Cars)time with a [ __ ] coworker that I was like, we were kind of flirty or whatever." It was like not anything serious, but there was like a party that was like not officially workrelated and whatever. He was like, "Everyone's kind of drunk. We end up like kissing in the

Kelly (Cars)kitchen." And like a bunch of people saw it and like 5 minutes later our other co-orker like pulled up and like they like she pulls up and they instantly start acting like a couple and everyone like knew they were dating. So everyone at the party is like feeling super

Kelly (Cars)awkward until like Yeah. Like someone ended up telling the girl but [ __ ] up [ __ ] up [ __ ] Icky. >> Anyone else been a home wrecker? >> Accidental home wrecker. >> Yeah. Honestly, I got played once. I was

Piatalking to this guy for a while and and he used to like come by and hang out all the time and then I found out like >> I I got I got a text from his phone once and there was this girl saying like I

Pialive with this guy. I was like oh [ __ ] >> that was gross to me. I ran away from that. I [ __ ] that. I mean close those doors. That's >> what Nobody wants to I mean can't say nobody but you shouldn't want to be a home wrecker. It's pretty [ __ ] awful

Sincuz I know cuz I was married, you know, I was divorced and everything when I got into a relationship with him. >> It's [ __ ] up. That's a lot of It seems like a lot of work. >> But I'm like, damn. Okay.

Elizabeth (4 Kids)>> Okay. You raise a little bar, you know. It's okay what you're willing to do. >> You got to deal with two girls. I waited though, to be honest, cuz I will get in a car, >> dude. I swear. I've only not been Oh, sorry. Go ahead. >> I feel like it's more messed up in your situation cuz like your kids were

Elizabeth (4 Kids)involved. >> Oh god. Yeah. somebody else's kids is crazy. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like, how are you going to like act [ __ ] a daddy? >> They did know him, but it was never like he never played stepdad. >> They never gave him that position as a

Sinas the stepdad cuz they have a dad already. >> Yeah. >> You know, so it was never really like an an issue like that, you know? >> How long did you wait before you introduced them?

Sin>> Six, eight months. I think it was a while. It was a while. They spoke like I spoke and they they knew that I was talking to somebody but you know it

Kelly (Cars)wasn't like that till after >> I've only not been cheated on one time like throughout my relationship history. I'm like I might >> I know I'm like so I tried polyone cheated

Kelly (Cars)>> guaranteed to get cheated on. >> I haven't cheated. What >> has anyone ever cheated? No, but my most recent partner literally acted like I was. >> I did one time but I knew I was being cheated on. I hate cheated on him back.

Elizabeth (4 Kids)>> Yeah. And then I felt really guilty and I ended the relationship. >> Did you know the guilt? >> Did you completely you knew? >> I he made it pretty obvious that he was cheating and then like I did it back and

Elizabeth (4 Kids)then I like like within a month I was like making myself sick because I felt so guilty and I to this day he doesn't know I cheated. >> How did he make it obvious? >> Like so I was living with him and he

Elizabeth (4 Kids)would come home with like marks on him and I was in denial. I was like, "He's not cheating." And like he he definitely was cuz as soon as we broke up, he came to me like a month later and was like, "Oh, this girl's pregnant." And it was the same girl that he was cheating on me

Elizabeth (4 Kids)with. She was like four months pregnant. >> Marks as in like >> like hickeys and stuff like on his chest. >> Oh, [ __ ] I thought you like a couple scratches. >> Did you ask him what is that? >> He was mean. I didn't >> Hey, how'd you get this lipstick on your

Elizabeth (4 Kids)end? >> Yeah. It wasn't a guy that you can like >> ask questions to. like he was very like confrontational, so it was just easier to not >> I'm glad you're free now. >> Freeze word. Woo. It

Kelly (Cars)>> was a long time ago. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. >> Did I already ask has anyone else been cheated on? >> You said you've been cheated on. >> Yeah. Like every single relationship

Kelly (Cars)I've been in and like and I feel like you I like my first serious relationship obviously I tried to like make [ __ ] work, but with my I feel like I don't know. I don't know. What do you Is that like a common experience? Have you guys

Elizabeth (4 Kids)been cheated on a lot? >> The guy that I'm currently with is the only like serious relationship I've been in that's never did me dirty like that. >> It's weird. Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm like >> maybe uh

Pia>> maybe maybe I should date 50. >> Some shitty people. They're all Gina everyone. >> You got to go 50 plus. I Well, to be fair, I've only dated like four or five people. I'm like >> silly odds on that. >> The poly kill seems like the natural

Kelly (Cars)progression. I'm like, "Okay, cool. Oh, so if this is the chase, if this is just like how the like the way life is, I'm like, >> did you like see the red flags as red flags or did you just like go with it? >> Like the homeless and >> dude, it was all literally supposed to

Kelly (Cars)be [ __ ] ironic. Like it was supposed to be a bit like I like I said earlier, I was streaming like when I found out he was down to like be as like stupid and like IRL stream and do embarrassing stuff, I was like, "Oh my god, this is

Kelly (Cars)equally embarrassing. He's like a struggling standup, you know?" And we were just going on dates. We were hanging out. Like we weren't even hooking up. And then just like I don't know like one night I was like they're

Julie (SPC)kind of cute. >> Is he like a famous comedian? >> No, they're not going to be. >> What's the difference between a polycule and a throppple in your case? Which in your case I don't even know that you

Kelly (Cars)could justify that as being either since you weren't participating with the other woman. >> I don't even know. I don't >> sound like he just made it up so he can date two women. >> I swear it's literally like I they were just practicing an open relationship. It

Kelly (Cars)just blows my mind that both of them have like selfidentified as like polyamorous for so long. I'm like I feel like we don't need to always stick a label on everything. I'm like sounds like you're just kind of casually dating people. Like you don't got to be like >> swingers. >> No, cuz swingers it entails like

Kelly (Cars)apparently I just found this out recently all this terminology and stuff. But swingers entails that it's like a married couple and they're like a team and they like do it together like they're >> with other. >> Yeah. Locked in. Yeah. Like where that's

Kelly (Cars)why people use I guess the poly label more. But I'm like, really? They just wanted like an open relationship. But they like the person told me straight up that they didn't want to hear if I started. They're like, "Do you think you're going to start dating someone?" I'm like, the first month I'm like, "No,

Kelly (Cars)I'm just getting to know you." And like coming to terms with this idea, you know? And then they're like, "Well, I wouldn't want to hear about it if you did." I'm like, "Well, what the [ __ ] am I doing then?" Like, >> so open relationship, right? >> Swear they're just like he living with

Kelly (Cars)his girlfriend. >> It's I don't know, honestly. Yeah. it. Just when we would get in a fight, they'd go over that way and then I swear when they'd get in a fight, come over the swings. >> Are you a swinger? >> No.

Sin>> Have you ever >> No, never. >> Not even in that BDSM relation. >> That was one of like the like I'm very monogous. So >> the first time >> I don't like sharing either. >> The first time we were all out together, I literally like puked in a bush behind the comedy club cuz it was just like so

Kelly (Cars)awkward >> cuz it was just awkward. I was like we're all three standing together. >> No, it was like tension bringing cuz like Austin had to W. >> Do you think maybe that was your body's like response to not feeling right being

Kelly (Cars)in that? >> Probably. Yeah. It's just stress. It's stress. It was literally just because like he'd go to like didn't want to show like one of us affection at a time. So it's like But he'd go to put his arm around like both of us. I'm like, "Stop

Kelly (Cars)you. You're like a pimp right now. This looks weird. All your friends are like staring at us like this is awkward." You know, >> I couldn't do it. But I wanted us to go all together cuz I'm like I know you bring either of us to the like to the

Kelly (Cars)comedy clubs and stuff at a time. I'm like I want the other girls that see me one night and then like the other girl like the next night. I want them to know that I know that I'm not a fool, you know? I don't know. I have a question for you guys. How tall are you and

Euginawhat's the minimum height of a man you would date? >> I'm 5'4 and 57 5'8. >> Okay. What about you? Uh 510. Take your uh glasses off,

Euginaplease. >> Okay. This it's blaring in my eyes. Um yeah, eye level. I prefer eye level. So, >> how tall are you again? >> 510.

Kelly (Cars)>> Okay. So, 510. >> So, yeah, anything eye level and over. >> Okay. >> Word. I'm 5'7 and I'd probably say like 5'9. Actually, probably 510 like like at least for a kitten heel, you know. >> You're 5'7?

Kelly (Cars)>> Yeah. >> Oh, you look shorter. I actually I got hit by a car last month and I lost a millimeter of height. I like broke my neck. Like non ironically. So I I should probably reme-measure. I

Kelly (Cars)hope I'm still 5'7. >> Millime isn't isn't going to >> I mean I'm 5'5 and I thought you and I were like the same. >> No way. This is slander. This is slander. I'm tall. I'm probably 5'8. Actually >> is that offensive?

Elizabeth (4 Kids)>> I'm super tall. No, I'm just kidding. This is like a thing with me in my chat. They're always saying that I look short and >> Oh >> yeah. >> Okay. What about you? I'm like 510 and I want someone that's taller than me. So like 511 to 6 foot.

Amanda (Security)>> Okay. And what about you? >> I'm 5'5 and a half. So probably like 56, 5'7. >> Okay. What about you? >> Um I'm 5'4 and just be taller than me. >> So 5'5.

Julie (SPC)>> 5'5. >> Short kings. Hit her up. >> I'm 5'2. Um my preference is about six feet, but I've dated shorter. So 5'7 and

Piaup. But I'm 5'5 and um probably like 5'8 I'd say. >> All right. What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your

Sinfuture husband? >> Like the regular like 80 70 80,000 a year. >> Okay. What about you? >> There's no preference in my mind, so I

SPEAKER_05don't know. >> What if he worked at like a fast food place? He'd have to be very good-looking with a big dick. >> But I thought there's no preference.

SPEAKER_05>> Well, you know, there's subtlety to everything. >> So, he he can work at like KFC or something. >> Yeah, sure. >> Okay. >> They tell good jokes, dude. No, >> he looks like, you know, a movie star.

Kelly (Cars)Yeah, he can work at KFC. >> I want them to at least make as much as me. I want them to make like 90k plus. Ideally, I want them to like smoke me. I want like 160k guy, but I mean it depends on where we live and stuff too.

Elizabeth (4 Kids)>> Where are you from? >> I'm from San Diego. >> Oh, okay. >> Mine's probably like as long as we're stable. I have four kids, so as long as we are like a stable household, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_05>> Okay. So, where wait, where do you live again? >> Arizona. >> Okay. So, whatever is like average over there. Yeah. >> Okay. I don't know. So, >> like >> Yeah. I don't know. >> What about you? >> I agree with the same thing. As long as

Amanda (Security)you're in like a stable like happy home, I don't think it matters. >> And you live in Santa Barbara. >> Yeah, I know. I'm working three jobs myself. >> So you're like >> Yeah, I'm always going to work though.

Amanda (Security)So I like working. It keeps my mind like it just Yeah, I like working. So >> Okay. >> What about you? >> Um I would say around what I make as

Jenna (Bartender)well. Um, I don't need them to be making a significant amount more than me. But >> what's that? >> Um, I don't really want to say what I make. >> What's like a range?

Julie (SPC)>> Under 100,000. >> Okay. What about you? >> Um, I think living in California, if it's uh dual income, I would say 80. And

Julie (SPC)then if it's just a single income, um, I would say between 150 and 200. >> Okay. What about you? I mean, I'm in New York, so

Pialike the thing is I don't really I don't mind if you work at a [ __ ] restaurant, but as long as you're actively trying to do something significantly better than that, actively

Piatrying, then you know, you're basically taking a bet on somebody anyway. So, it doesn't really matter. As long as you intend on and are actively working towards better than that, then cool.

Pia>> What if you're he's just with you till he levels up and then he's out? Well, I mean, it's a gamble you take when you're trying to be in a committed relationship with somebody, isn't it? >> True. >> So, like Olive Garden is okay. >> If again, like if you have some other

Piaventure that you're like, "Look, I work here now, but I'm I'm really this is what I'm really trying to put together and you're not just talking about it. I see you actively working at it." Then that's a gamble I'll take. If I like you, >> just wait till my surf punk band takes

SPEAKER_05off, babe. >> That's not really, you know, >> I'm kidding. >> It's not too good, is it? Wait till my comedy career takes off. >> Wow, you guys are so shy now that Brian's gone. What happened?

SPEAKER_05>> I think we're getting tired. >> Past 11. We were told 11, I think. >> Yeah, we have energy drinks back there, guys. Um, would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a

Euginahike? >> A man. A bear. I'm sorry. >> Okay. What about you, chair two? I just >> neither is that an option.

Eugina>> Why? Why neither? >> I just want a peaceful hike. >> I mean, you see men on hikes all the time, right? >> Yes, I do. Yeah, >> random men. >> Yeah, I've been on a hike once we're in

EuginaVancouver and there was a random guy and I did not I turned around and went back. >> So, were you thinking like I wish this was a bear? >> Like I said, neither

SPEAKER_05>> really. Yeah. >> What if like it was in an elevator? A random >> Well, I'd prefer a man in an elevator. Yeah. Unless it was a circus bear or something. Yeah. >> A circus bear. >> I mean, I don't know why a bear would be

SPEAKER_05in an elevator. >> It's just a hypothetical. >> Okay. >> Do you wish like Nick and Brian were replaced with bears? Would that make you happier?

SPEAKER_05>> A trained circus bear. Yeah. >> Circus bears people all the time, dude. >> They do. >> Oh, yeah. Okay, then I prefer them. >> You would prefer who? >> Brian. >> Okay, good. Okay. What about you? What

Kelly (Cars)are you reading? >> I'm feeling like we could all take the bear. >> Why are you wearing it? >> I brought you a copy. How to fight a bear and win, dude. >> Oh, okay. There we go. >> I'm feeling like we could all take >> I don't want to fight the bear. >> I don't even like changing a light bulb. >> Excuse me. >> I said I don't even like changing a

SPEAKER_05light bulb. >> It depends on what needs to get done in the room. >> So, what is what is your option or what do you pick? >> A man, obviously. >> Okay. Well, with a man. Yeah. >> What were you going to say?

SPEAKER_04>> With certain bears, I forgot which type. There's something you can do to, you know, not have them attack you. You can, I think, lay down or either I forgot what it is. I forgot if it's stand up or

Pialay down. I forgot. >> You can yell at a black bear, but they still will try to attack you. >> I'm joking. >> Black bear. I've been in the woods of black bears. They're not very aggressive. A grizzly, you're [ __ ] Okay. >> Oh, yeah. >> But a black bear, I've yelled at them and they ran off.

Pia>> Oh, yeah. black bears. >> If I'm on a hiking trail, right, then like it'd be normal to see a guy. But if I'm in the absolute middle of nowhere, I'd probably rather see a black bear. But uh if it's a brown bear or a guy,

Piathen definitely a guy. >> Yeah, that makes sense. >> Why the bear over the man at all? >> Cuz with a bear, you like she said, the black bear, they usually go through trash, right? >> Well, like I said, hiking trail is normal to see a guy. I don't care if I

Piasee a guy in a hiking trail. I'm in the middle of miles and miles from land. What the hell is this guy doing in the middle of the woods? A bear I could understand. >> Well, I mean I've been exploring the wilderness deep into the woods.

Pia>> There's a reason for bears to be there. >> Yeah, there's like it's like it makes kind of more sense for a bear to be there than a than a man. A grizzly. >> Hell no. >> Yeah, it's just random. >> Are we on a hiking trail or am I like 50 miles?

Pia>> I have a better bet that my stun gun is going to work on a man rather than a bear. >> What am I doing? Okay, but either way, like picking a bear is crazy. Yes, >> a black bear would I'll be honest. Have you dealt with black bears before? >> I don't deal with bears. I'm

Pia>> I can tell you right now, the black bear they they hey yo oh they get out of they run away. I mean but a brown bear they're [ __ ] eating your ass. >> But there's always that chance. >> But yeah, you ought to risk it. Look,

PiaI'm just saying again you guys statistically if we put it all like on a scale, a black bear probably has like >> probably has less statistics of [ __ ] you up than a [ __ ] man and a and a

Piaand a brown bear. You're [ __ ] So, >> but like a random man, like totally random. >> Am I on a hiking trail? Cuz that would

Piabe that am I 15 miles in the woods of Alaska? Then I'm like, "Hey yo, >> yeah. What are we doing here?" >> Okay. You know, I'm just speaking. I'm not scared of men or anything. I mean,

SPEAKER_05what I'm >> on a hike. So, on a hiking trail with a guy. >> Feel like I can at least try to fight a man off versus a bear. A bear that's going to eat me. >> Yeah. Yeah. If I was in the middle of nowhere, like 50 mi totally remote, I

SPEAKER_05would rather lost see a man. >> Yeah. I'm like, "Hey, like help me. >> Help me." Yeah. >> Well, then I don't know how you got out there to begin with, right? >> You know, what are we doing? >> He can fight the bear. I'm not fighting the bear.

Pia>> Yeah. >> You're not going to be I would never fight any bear, but >> I don't I like I said, I've dealt with them. They're over They're all the time dragging my garbage out of the Hey yo, you scare them off and they run away. If

Piait had babies, I'd be like, if it had babies, listen, if it has babies, you could have a problem with a with a black bear. >> If it's a mommy bear, then >> you could have a problem with a black bear. But a brown bear, you're [ __ ] You're just going to eat your ass.

Pia>> I would never want to see a brown bear. Polar bears are the most vicious. They are. >> They're the most bloodthirsty. >> I never want to be around one, but they're so cute. >> I'm scared of them. Um, what was your answer to the question?

SPEAKER_05>> A man. >> Okay. And what about you? >> A man. >> Okay. Okay. And then I don't know where the other girl went. >> I think she said bear. >> She said bear and then went over there. >> She leaves. >> Oh, no. She's snagging.

Pia>> Oh, okay. >> But a man or a bear over a man >> girl. I'm telling you right now. I look I got nothing against men. If I saw a man in the woods, I probably wouldn't I It's not like, "Oh my god, a man is

Piaprobably going to rape me and kill me." No. No. But I'm telling you right now because I've dealt with it. Black bears are scared. If I'm in the middle of Alaska and I see a man, in my mind, I'm like, "Oh, fuck." You know, uh, >> escape convict. >> Yeah. Yeah.

Pia>> I just find it's so interesting. >> He's gonna do >> the man. >> I don't know what he's going to do, but we're in the middle of [ __ ] nowhere. Nobody's coming to help my ass. I help a better chance at scaring off a black

Piabear than than a than fighting a man. A brown bear is going to kill my ass every time. No doubt. They're vicious. >> I like I said, this is coming from experience. This isn't like >> I'd rather take my chances with a man. It's not even guaranteed to be a black

Piaman. >> Again, if I'm on a hiking trail, of course, I would rather see a guy. We're not I'm not being cuckoo here. If I see some guy on a hiking trail, why would I be scared of some guy on a hiking trail? I don't want to see any bear on a hiking. >> Being realistic here, guys. Like, you

Piawant to make one point and be done with it. Bear, what kind of bear? Where am I? What What woods am I in? Is there a trail around? >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> And you also said bear. Why do you say bear? >> I agree with her completely. I think you're going to be able to scare it off.

Amanda (Security)And >> I've watched enough like serial killer like documentaries that like you see a guy in like the middle of the woods or something. >> I know what I'm doing here. I don't know what you're doing here.

Julie (SPC)>> I just I just find it so interesting that and and it generally uh speaks to each person's background, I guess. But in this scenario, I think, okay, we're both spawn in the middle of the forest.

Julie (SPC)We're not going anywhere. We're stuck there. >> I'd be so happy to see a man because that's my because that's my experience, right? >> Okay, I got somebody to help me. I mean,

Julie (SPC)hopefully he wants he's willing to help somebody to help me hunt or protect me or Yeah. Whatever. Whatever the case is, I'm stoked that there's a there's a guy there. I don't The first thing that

SPEAKER_05comes to mind isn't that he's a bad man. A bear. Yeah. I don't know about that. I don't care what kind of bear is. >> What do you For those who pick bear, what do you think the statistic is of the man hurting you? Like how likely do you think that is?

Pia>> Well, that's why I'm saying there's a lot of factors. Why am I in the woods? Where am I in the woods? Did I hike my own ass into the woods? Or am I in the woods cuz I don't want to be there? Cuz then I hope it's a guy. Hey, come help me. >> Well, it was a it was worded as on a hike.

SPEAKER_05>> Yeah. So then definitely a guy every time. >> And what about you? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, how likely do you think it is that the man will hurt you >> on? Not likely. It's not about

Pia>> the random man. For me, it wouldn't be if we're in the middle. Okay. If we're in the absolute middle, that's why I asked because if we're in the middle of Alaska, there's nobody there's no help coming regardless. I

Piamean, why how did I end up there? How did I end up in the middle of the woods? If it's a hike, then of course I would would rather see a guy than a bear. I mean, that's a silly question. >> Yeah. >> Wouldn't couldn't a man be considered the help? >> Yeah.

SPEAKER_05>> If I'm in the middle of Alaska, if I took a hike in the woods, what help do I need? I've just took a hike in the woods. But you were just saying that you would rather see a bear if you were in Alaska. >> If I'm in the middle of Alaska, how did

PiaI get there? Am I there because I don't want to be there or did I my own ass into the woods in the middle of Alaska? >> I I can make the bear my friend and we can live the jungle book together. >> Something like that. >> See, I'm not silly. I don't think that

Piaright. I'm just saying >> bare necessities. >> Yes, exactly. >> Bare necessities. >> Have you guys ever been in a non-traditional relationship? Girl, you have to define that because I

Piathought I was in a non-traditional relationship with a age gap, but these words I never heard before. >> Okay. >> Okay. What did you do? Have you ever been in like a relationship with like more than one person involved? >> No. >> No. >> No, I have not.

Pia>> Have you ever been in Well, yeah. I guess we all have been in non-traditional in different senses, >> right? Where's the where's the line in the sand, right? I mean, >> true question. >> I think mine was pretty traditional.

Amanda (Security)Normally I've been in like monogous like relationships that I've tried to like last for years cuz I think it's impressive how >> a guy can out of like everybody in the world they can just pick you know out of

Amanda (Security)all the temptation out of everybody else and all like the different stuff they can like just pick you and I think that's impressive but some people don't think that way. So, >> they asked a question last time like

Elizabeth (4 Kids)would you delete all of like your like or would you not post um certain pictures and stuff based on your relationship? >> Yes, >> you have to sometimes like

Elizabeth (4 Kids)>> I literally like I cuz I was a dancer. I went and deleted like I went and deleted my wife. I went and deleted all those pictures because of the relationship I am. >> Yeah. Out of the respect of the relationship like why are you going to go out there and like you know get in the car with our first house?

Brian Atlas>> I'd like to open it up to either you or you. You guys haven't spoken much tonight, so is there any topics you guys would like to speak on?

Amanda (Security)>> My first relationship, um, he didn't tell me that he was by and he would, um, mess with guys basically. I don't have a problem with that, but just not in my

Amanda (Security)bedroom. >> Yeah. Seriously. >> Nice. >> So, um, I was a troublemaker when I was younger. Um, I ended up in juvenile hall a few times and he ended up like hooking up with his friend while I was in juvenile hall.

Amanda (Security)>> So, >> what were you in juvie for? >> Uh, just being drunk. My dad used to call the cops on me for coming home drunk. >> Okay. >> My dad was a hard ass. So, yeah. >> Um,

Amanda (Security)>> could you close the door? >> But yeah, he ended up um just like it I knew the the behavior like wasn't going to end. He wasn't going to like make a decision basically.

Amanda (Security)and he was like asking me to have three sons and stuff like that. So, just not something I wanted in my relationship.

Amanda (Security)So, that's why I broke up with the the first uh 9-year relationship. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> What about you?

Brian AtlasIs there a question or are we just this is >> just open-ended just if you want to something a dating topic you want to discuss or an anecdote you want to share

Jenna (Bartender)or disagreement or anything really. >> Um I think uh for the most part most of us

Jenna (Bartender)are in agreement on um kind of dating and where we're at. Um, I've I don't know. I don't have anything to be honest.

Jenna (Bartender)>> What's the craziest place you ever had sex? >> Me? I'm not crazy. >> Okay. Tough crowd.

Pia>> I do think back then that on a motorcycle riding on a motorcycle. >> [ __ ] difficult. [ __ ] difficult. >> All right, guys. TTS is going to be 69.

Brian AtlasIf you guys want to roast them, we're going to do a roast session here. Uh $69 TTS. It's been lowered from 200 all the way down. Very discounted. $69 TTS. >> Tough crowd. Tough crowd.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Uh so was there anything though that you wanted to talk about? Feel like you said like three words the entire night. So just trying to get you involved in the conversation.

Jenna (Bartender)>> No, I'm I know I'm I feel like I'm drawing a total blank. I had obviously, you know, topics that I wanted to >> touch on. I feel like I should have made a list or something.

Amanda (Security)>> I think social media is hard for uh made it hard for people to like conversate in person rather than just like behind a keyboard and you can just say whatever the hell you want without

Amanda (Security)>> not this one. >> Any consequences. So, um, yeah, I just think it's made it harder for people to like talk to each other and

Amanda (Security)yeah, I just think maybe both guys and girls are lonely and just Yeah, I think that's what's making the dating scene kind of hard. >> I agree with that. Yeah, you can't Nobody can have a If you walk up to a

Piastranger and you're just like, "Hey, how you doing?" talking to them about just a regular conversation. >> Yeah. somebody my age and younger. It's like, oh, >> that used to be pleasant. >> I'm just saying hi, dude. >> That used to be pleasantries.

Elizabeth (4 Kids)>> Not in my sunny beach town. >> My sunny beach town's very friendly. >> We're the same age, I think. And between not being able to have a conversation and the phone like, >> yeah, put it away. >> You have to sit there and watch your phone while you have dinner is crazy.

Sin>> Yeah. Yeah. Social anxiety. >> Talk to chat. You know, they call it uh social social atrophy. You need something to look at, you know, cuz God forbid first dribbling. >> I had a really good first date, so it

Amanda (Security)was fun. I didn't have any of that issue. Almost done nothing. >> Good for you. >> I didn't have any of that with my son's father. I was still my dad. My dad liked

Amanda (Security)to drink, honestly. Ironic, but um I met my my son's father. We actually ended up having like 450 friends in common. We just hadn't met

Amanda (Security)each other before. But um yeah, we didn't have that. We didn't have that issue. But yeah, I just think that can be a common problem with some people though. Now that I've like become

Brian Atlassingle, now I'm definitely running into that issue. >> Okay. Um I wanted to chime in briefly on the bear question, but we won't linger too long. Who picked bear? Show of

Brian Atlashands. Are you What are you doing? Are you looking at your glasses? >> I'm disassociating. I'm sorry. I'm here. Oh, somebody said something that made me think about that's why the wage gap

Brian Atlasexists, but I was behind the scenes dealing with something, so forgot what that was. Uh, do you pick bear? >> I said neither. >> If you had to pick one. >> I'm Russian. I pick the bear.

Kelly (Cars)>> That's great. Love it. You pick bear. >> Oh, no. I look like >> In your notes, you picked the bear. >> No, I did not. Oh, cuz I had Kelly. >> Oh, yeah. Cuz I had the book. >> Holy [ __ ] I'm sorry about your last name. >> I'm sorry. I had the book. I know. Me, too.

Brian Atlas>> Wow. Oh, that's a yikes. >> But it was You didn't think it was funny, >> so it's okay. Sorry. >> Just take it off the table. Green is a gross color. Um >> Uh, okay. >> Sorry. >> Who picked you? You You picked bear

Piathen. >> Nah, I picked guy on a hiking trail. I just was saying the parameters of like where are we and what's happening. >> They said go back over. >> You picked bear. >> Mhm.

Amanda (Security)>> Wait, why do I have your name down as >> I'm Genie on Facebook? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Genie is my Jean's my middle name. And >> Okay, you pick bear. Why do you pick bear? >> Because I've watched a bunch of serial

Amanda (Security)killer documentaries and it depends on how the guy ended up in the woods, you know. >> Can you either fix posture or talk into >> It depends on how he um ended up in the woods. If he's just like hiking, then

Amanda (Security)yeah, definitely the man. But if it's a bear, then >> I can probably just scare him off and I'll be by myself again. So >> So no to the bear. You pick man. And you

Euginagenuinely pick bear or what do you >> again? I'd rather not encounter >> I know if you I know I know hypotheticals are hard but >> do you pick bear or man

Eugina>> realistically man? Yeah. I was making a joke. >> Oh, sorry. You're just like gazing up. That's my answer. >> I don't know. You just said that it would end at 11 and it's going to

Brian Atlasmidnight. That's why I'm a little tired. >> Uh well, hold on again. You're so bad. Faith, in our notes, we say we aim to rap at 11. >> Did you say that in the notes?

Brian Atlas>> But it Well, hold on. When did we >> You texted, right? The DM'd. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And it said 11 to 11. I'm pretty sure it says we aim to rap at 11:00. May go later. >> Oh, maybe I didn't see that.

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. Maybe if you weren't so bad faith this entire night, we would have wrapped at like 10 p.m. But all you know, >> is this because of me? >> I'm going to group torture because of me. >> I'm placing this group torture. Hello. This is why the Oh, >> you're free to leave at any point. Like,

SPEAKER_03you know, >> I mean, I've already been here too long to leave. >> What do you mean by that? >> By just like I read 11. I read 11 to be here and we're not torturing you. That's

Brian Atlaslike so unfair. >> I'm being I'm exaggerating, but yeah. >> Okay. So, anyways, um moving on to the rest of the notes then. I do think it is interesting though like the people that

Brian Atlasdo pick bear. It's like okay it it's just kind of sexist to pick bear over man in the same way it would be racist to pick bear over black person. >> I wouldn't want to come across a random

Brian Atlaschick either. Chicks are crazier than men. So I guess no I wouldn't want to come across sexist. Yeah. No either. >> Uh going let's see getting through some of the questionnaire questions. A woman's passion not matter. So we're

Brian Atlastalking about body count now. Uh let's see who agrees with that statement. You agree. Eugenia, you think a woman's past should not matter. >> Amanda, you also agree with that

Brian Atlasstatement. Uh why? So, okay, let's start with Amanda. Why is that? Why should a woman's past not matter? >> Um because I mean

Amanda (Security)I think it should depend on the personality. Um, if they have a bad personality and like a crappy like questionable past,

Amanda (Security)then yeah, it's hard to get past that. But if they're nice and they want to move in the right direction and you have a connection with them, I don't think it should matter.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. What about you? >> The past. How many men a woman has slept with? >> Yeah. So, the state >> I think it should matter. >> Woman's past should not matter. You indicated that you agree with this. Why

Euginais that? >> I think it should matter exactly as much as it matters how much body count a man has. So if it doesn't matter the body count of a man, I think the same applies to

Euginawomen. >> I care about the body count. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So it's personal preference then. >> It's personal. Okay. I amend. I changed my statement. It's personal preference.

Brian AtlasIt's each to each their own. >> But there's no like nuance. It's like >> certain weight. Should women then are there able to be any asymmetries between attract like what men finds

Euginaattractive versus what? >> Again, it's all very we're speaking in general terms. >> Let me finish my sentences, but go ahead. >> We're speaking in very general terms. Specifically, it's personal preference,

Euginaright? We can't make everyone like the same thing. Different people are turned off or turned on by different things. So, in general terms, I'm just saying

Euginabecause you want it in generally in generally speaking. Generally speaking, I I don't see why a woman is uh degraded by sex with men. I don't know what that says about how men think of

Euginathemselves that they desoil a woman who they have sex with cuz they don't consider themselves desoiled by the woman they have sex with. So, I don't understand why there's that social

Brian Atlas>> differentiation. >> Yeah. Why you hold on you're making it about if the man has sex with that woman that she has been spoiled. Now while it might

Brian Atlasbe the case that some men could view women in this way when it comes to the topic of body count which is the current topic >> it relates to

Brian Atlasmen other men that that woman has sex has had sex with not not anything to do with because he had sex with her. They're making a judgment call based on other sexual partners

Euginashe's had. >> Do they consider themselves depurified by the amount of women they've had sex with? Does the man see himself in the same light? I am less

Euginapure because I've had sex with a lot of women. >> I feel like I don't care what a guy is. >> Maybe it's possible that that's the case.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Again, it's personal preference unless we're speaking generally. Uh, okay. Um,

Amanda (Security)>> I mean, it depends. Some guys don't want a girl that's been with that has been with a bunch of guys and sometimes a girl. >> I think most people wouldn't want someone

Brian Atlas>> I'm I'm actually willing to tackle this. So, I guess where where is your objection here? So let's say a guy has a high body count

Brian Atlasbut he has made a determination that women who are virgins or women who have a low body count are more desirable to him. What is actually I guess what's actually wrong there?

Eugina>> Nothing. It's his personal preference. I'm speaking in a general sense, right? We're talking generally. >> Okay. >> So generally speaking in our culture, a woman who has had a lot of sexual

Euginapartners, right? everyone's with me is considered to be somehow lesser than a woman who's had less sexual partners. >> Mhm.

Eugina>> Is that not generally speaking our norm? >> Yeah, sure. I would agree that women tend to be shamed more for promiscuity than men are. >> That's Yeah. So that's what I'm pointing out. >> Okay. But like I think the other the

Brian Atlasreverse can also be well sort of the reverse. So like for example, male virginity is shamed more than female virginity. So like men who can't get sexual access or men who are virgins,

Brian Atlasthat's going to be appraised by women uh or by society as like something that's >> defective in the man versus like that's something desirable in the woman. Although you would probably make some

Brian Atlasargument about like oh well then purity culture is also like uh oppressive to women in some capacity too. Some guys like

Eugina>> men are shamed. Men are shamed for not having sexual prowess, >> right? It's a direct inverse of what we were just saying. Yeah, >> that's kind of a little bit what I'm saying, I guess. So, a lack thereof of

Euginasaid sexual prowess. >> Women are shamed for being frigid or for not uh, you know, putting out. Sometimes they're shamed for that, too. >> Yeah. For different reasons, I guess.

Brian AtlasBut like, how do you reconcile the two? On one hand, on one hand, you have uh women are frigid and they're what's the

Euginaterminology often used for prude. Thank you. Uh but also they're shamed for [ __ ] too much. >> I just like there to be some consistency. Either you want women to have sex or you don't want them to have

Euginasex. >> Those two things do not equate though because it is preference. >> Those two things do not >> get. Yes. I'm saying it's personal preference, but in this again in the general sense, right? >> What's the consensus?

Eugina>> I don't think there's >> do men want women to have sex at all or not have sex at all. What is what is better? >> Men want you to be sexually available to them? They don't want to sit there and think about all of the other men you've

Euginabeen sexually available for. >> I think it's specifically that person you're in a relationship with. >> Okay. But it doesn't always work out, right? You have sex with a man, you're in a relationship with him and he moves

Brian Atlason or you move on. So, you have someone new and they have someone new, but you're judged for that. >> But there's a difference between a woman who's had a couple other previous boyfriends and then a woman who's done [ __ ] a 100 dudes by the time she's

Euginalike in her mid to >> mid 20s, early 20s. >> Definitely. >> And the difference is she's a woman. And if a man has [ __ ] a hundred women, there's nothing wrong with him. >> Well, this it's interesting. Do you

Brian Atlasthink that this is something like men are doing something wrong here or is it actually women care less about this than men do? >> I would just appreciate if the same standards were applied that you apply to

Brian Atlasyourself. >> Okay. Well, hold on. This idea that there needs to be perfect reciprocity and perfect symmetry between what men and women find attractive is just frankly not the case. Women generally care far more about height than men do.

Eugina>> I'm not talking about attractiveness. I just mean as a lesser human being. >> She's less attractive if a woman's [ __ ] 300 dudes. >> That's Yes. It's I'm not talking about attractiveness. I'm saying in terms of she's a lesser human. She's worth less as a human being.

Brian Atlas>> That's literally not what we're talking about. >> Okay. If we're just talking about attractiveness, that's personal preference. >> Yeah. We're not we're not talking about somebody's value as a human being. We're just talking about

Amanda (Security)what people find appealing or attractive when it comes to dating. Everyone's allowed to like what they like. I have no conditions on that. >> Some girl might not like a guy who has a

Kelly (Cars)high body count cuz it make it seem like they can't like emotionally invest or >> I feel like I feel like all night it's been like 3 + 4 equals 7. Why is that? And then you're like because green is

Kelly (Cars)the color of grass. Like we come to like you're answering like something completely unrelated to the question asked. All right, we got $69 TTSDream.com/9

SPEAKER_00chair 2.5 looks like livestock and thinks she's a chosen >> move. >> Well, that was respectful. Thank you. >> I thought you was talking about me. My nose piercings 2.5.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, okay. Well, a couple of you said like a woman's passion on matter, body count. Um, >> that's why I would >> I mean, you do understand the context of the conversation is it's like it's a dating podcast. Oftentimes when we're talking about like a woman's passion on

Brian Atlasmen or body count, we're obviously talking within the context of dating and then you want to take it. So, you don't want to accept my answer woman's value. >> You don't want to accept my answer of personal preference. So, I keep

Brian Atlasrepeating two different things. I think it's personal preference like I said 10 times. >> Yeah. But I don't know why you bring it to like as a woman that's where you want it to go right human this human soul their

Brian Atlasvalues >> is that not something that's real is that not something in our norm of our society we >> I don't know do women like view men who are like short as subhuman or are they just not attracted to them generally

Brian Atlasspeaking >> generally speaking women do not view men as subhuman period >> what >> well I mean there's some debate that could occur there but I would never make the claim that, okay, I would say that

Brian Atlasgenerally speaking, what women finds attractive is tall men, but just because they like tall men doesn't mean they view short men as subhuman or like lacking in some sort of value or whatever. >> Again, I'm human. I'm in agreement with

Brian Atlasyou. If we're talking just about attractiveness, it's personal preference. I'm not saying anyone needs to like anything. Also, really quick on the maybe the sort of potential double double standard here. Uh, for men to

Brian Atlassleep with a hundred women, that takes some degree of skill. Whereas, if a woman [ __ ] a 100 men, >> cap, >> she just had to say yes a hundred times. Like, it's very easy for women to get

Brian Atlaslaid. So, the difference of appraisal here is a little bit different. like the in order for a man to sleep with a lot of girls, typically he's going to have to be

Brian Atlasattractive, you know, to to some degree. But a woman who's like lacking in all the characteristics that would make her like broadly attractive for a long-term

Euginarelationship, she need not possess those traits. >> Okay. So, what you're saying is men don't care about any of a woman's qualities. They base their decision of having sex with a woman.

Brian Atlas>> You guys know that Kathy Newman interview she did with Jordan Peter Peterson? So, what you're saying is uh No, that's not what I'm saying. >> I'm just trying to understand what you're saying.

Eugina>> I'm trying to understand my question to get laid than it is for >> I am interpreting your questions as you present them to me. >> I don't know what you want from me. >> I I'm just saying you're saying a woman

Brian Atlasjust lies there and takes it, right? She brings nothing to the sexual relationship. >> Oh, wow. Okay. You're >> That's what it sounded like to me. I was just trying to understand. I was trying to understand how you were saying >> so charitable this entire night with

Amanda (Security)your interpretations of what you think I'm saying. But anyways, uh yeah. No, that's not what I'm saying. >> You're saying that it's it's easier for a woman to go out and get laid than a

Amanda (Security)man. And so for him to have like a really high body count, which it means that he like I'm sorry, some most chicks have like pretty high freaking standards. So they have to have some

Kelly (Cars)good qualities to like hook up with that many chicks, you know? So >> I feel like it's just like us reexplaining like what like I'm genuinely wondering if like like do you not like genuinely understand like what we're saying or like

Kelly (Cars)>> into the into the mic if you can. I feel like you're purposely like misinterpreting and it's kind of frustrating on the conversation in the needle a little >> getting aid over here listening to this [ __ ] >> and then someone has to like tone tag

Brian Atlasand re reexlain. I'm like no I think you do get it. I think you do get it and we're just wasting our time. >> Um okay so really quick on this question though a woman's passion not matter. Uh some of you agree some of you disagree. What to the two women who said a woman's

Brian Atlaspassion should not matter but I'll open up to the entire panel. What's You know what? Let's start with you. What's your body count? >> Nine. >> Into the mic. >> Nine.

Eugina>> Okay. Nine. Okay. Yep. What about you? >> I don't want to share that with you. >> Ballpark. >> I don't want to share with you. >> Felicity was so kind. >> I was called a livestock and also what a chosen. What was that code for? I don't

Euginawant to share that with you. I know, but I'm on in an environment where I do not want to share that in. >> Okay. What about this? We're going to go. We're going to mute the audio. You share with me. Then I'll relay it to them. No thank you.

Kelly (Cars)>> Do you want to do Do you want to do a ballpark? >> I don't want to do it at all. >> Do you want to do range? >> No, I'm good. >> Less than 10. More than 10. >> I already said no. I already said no a

Kelly (Cars)few times. >> All right. What about you? >> I just got number seven recently. Shout out. >> Okay. What about you? >> Mine's like 2530. >> 2530. Okay. >> Five. >> Five. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Seven. 11 six >> multiply it by three and that's the real number couple I don't know if we've got some

Brian Atlashonest answers here you know what I mean but hey you know uh >> what not from you well well not just from you is what I'm trying to say it could have been everybody all right we

SPEAKER_00have Devon Jackson here oh boy >> Devon Jackson donated $69 >> yo type two can't engage with hypothetical Les constantly puts words

SPEAKER_00in Brixen's mouth is here in bad faith. Keeps mouth breathing into the mic and just is an off-putting presence in general. >> Your response. >> Okay. >> I like to bring a certain energy to the

Amanda (Security)room that people don't like. I don't know what to tell you. >> I think if you don't agree that you can't try to see what the person is saying. You can't just get to the fact that, oh, this is what they're saying

Kelly (Cars)and just take it out whether you agree or disagree with >> I don't know if people have missed me agreeing with him many times in the past. >> You can't agree or disagree with somebody if you don't know what they're saying. >> Conceding on a small point is like and

SPEAKER_00misinterpreting the entire argument and then conceding on like the tiniest thing is not like >> I mean, oh my god, Inquisitor Zealated $69

SPEAKER_00care too. It isn't just sex. The more life experience a woman has, the more damaged and insufferable she is to any man, whether ver. >> It isn't personal preference. Zeal, it's

Brian Atlasreality. >> The girls liked this one. Thank you, Z. Appreciate it, man. Guys, streamlabs.com/w whatever. Uh, streamlabs.com/ whatever. $69 TTS. Get it in. We're going to do a little roast session here if you guys want to do a

Brian Atlaslittle roast. Um, I need to get up once again here. I guys pick on more than number two union jab. >> But uh Felicity is going to come. Felicity is going to come sit down.

Brian AtlasShe's going to ask you guys some more questions, I guess. Any other I don't know. Um did you do all these Felicity one through four? Okay. Do you want to just

Brian Atlasgo down from this way? You'll probably be able to get through a few. >> Where did you leave off? >> Uh you're on number two. >> Go ahead, ladies. the song. You may not discuss.

SPEAKER_05>> Thank God. >> Matriarchy now. >> Do you think it's wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex? >> No. I think sex is an important part of a relationship. Unless you just had a

Amanda (Security)baby, then it's like okay, >> that's Yeah. >> So, regularly then? No. >> I think it depends on the relationship that you're in. If that's that if that's an important part of your relationship,

Amanda (Security)then yeah. if it all of a sudden just starts getting turned down, that could mean like a problem in the relationship or cheating or something. So, that would be me. But

Amanda (Security)>> I feel like it's always >> even if it's not sex, intimacy, like holding hands, kissing, and all that, I think it's important to keep a relationship going in my opinion. So, I I think it is not I don't think it's

Amanda (Security)fair on anybody's part. If intimacy goes out of the relationship in my opinion, it can bring apart other problems. sex like a >> pretty normal part of a relationship. >> It should be. Yeah. But couples

Amanda (Security)unfortunately go through like serious dry spells a lot more than people admit. It's true. >> What would you say? >> People go through dry spells a lot more than like people will admit in a relationship. No. >> Yeah.

Elizabeth (4 Kids)>> Besides married where again where's the line in the sand? How long is too long? What's going on? True. I feel like when the when your partner feels like they're not desirable to you, there's like a huge issue. I

Elizabeth (4 Kids)definitely think that if a man leaves because you're turning him down, it's not just because of the sex. It's that he feels that desire is gone. >> It's very emasculating for for them. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think you should just have access to it,

SPEAKER_05>> you know. >> Yeah. I agree. Yeah. Like, okay, when where? >> If you started the relationship regularly having sex and then it just >> it's kind of the expectation you set, which sucks cuz I feel like as girls like >> I tend to do that where you're, you

Kelly (Cars)know, like hot and heavy for them a lot more like in the beginning of your relationship, but I'm like after a certain point it's like that's just kind of the precedent you set. >> Do things to you know to do it, you know? >> And after a certain point you just like get off on getting them off like it

Amanda (Security)still just like makes you happy, you My ex worked hard and like kid like our kid got in the way, you know, so we just like >> stopped making sure to like make just life got in the way.

SPEAKER_05>> It's different. I mean time it's pretty regular for couples to have sex. Especially when you have children and such, but I think the question was asking more like if it's totally random. >> Yeah. >> Well, yeah. Then cuz if it's totally

Elizabeth (4 Kids)random that she's turning him down for sex, I would assume that she's getting it somewhere else. >> Yeah, definitely. You can't assume that though like cuz >> or she's talking to somebody else. >> Yeah. Like her she's if she's not having sex with you. >> You don't know that. >> Then her attention is involved with somebody else.

Kelly (Cars)>> Not there. There's another reason why she's emotionally just gone. I would agree with that. >> Some people fall out of love if you're not in love. >> But yeah, boys will go crazy cuz like Yeah, I definitely do that where I'm like I >> like when I mentally check out of a relationship like I just like stop

Kelly (Cars)feeling like sexually attracted to them. >> But then it drives me crazy when like a guy will be like you're definitely getting it somewhere else. I'm like dude no just like killed my libido. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_05>> Yeah. Okay. But what do you think? Number two, Eugenia. >> Number two. >> I don't know. I don't remember your guys' names. I'm sorry. >> I'm number two. Yeah. Um,

Euginayou know, you wore me down. I think men should get whatever they want, whenever they want it, on demand. >> I changed my entire point of view in the course of seven hours.

SPEAKER_05>> I'm not the one that's been talking to you this whole time. What do you actually think?

Eugina>> I don't know. I think it's fine if men, you know, aren't satisfied or someone isn't satisfied in the relationship. It's within their rights to do what they want.

SPEAKER_05>> Okay. A woman should not be rejected because of her weight. What do you guys think of that? >> Well, men are rejected because of their height all the time. >> Men are rejected because their weight, too.

Kelly (Cars)>> Yeah. It's a preference. >> I want to be in someone like I want someone that also takes care of themselves. Like, bro, you ever been dating someone that like you take on a little hike with your dog on a Sunday morning and they're like huffing and puffing up the side of the hill?

Amanda (Security)>> I hike all the time. I still huff and puff. I think that's what I'm saying. >> It depends on why they gained weight and like if they just like gain the weight and then give up and don't try to go back to like what they were and what you

SPEAKER_05got attracted to. I think that has a lot to do with >> I think it's not like if it's in the relationship. It's like if you when you first meet >> somebody >> Yeah. Is it wrong >> face value? >> Feel like it's a preference. >> It's like first meeting not in the course of a relationship.

Kelly (Cars)>> Yeah. No, it's the symptom of a bigger issue. I'm like there's clearly like something that you're doing if you're not motivated to take care of yourself. How do I know that you're going to be like motivated to take care of me, you know? >> But is it wrong for a man to reject a woman because of her weight? >> No.

Jenna (Bartender)>> No. >> Same. It goes vice versa. Sorry, I should have used it like that. >> What about you guys? What do you guys think? No, I don't think it's wrong for a man to reject a woman based on any preference. >> If they're not attracted to them, then

SPEAKER_05they shouldn't go with somebody they're not attracted to. So, >> would you guys rather be with someone that's severely underweight or severely overweight? >> I love me some skinny boys.

Amanda (Security)>> That's actually a hard one. >> No, that's a difficult one issues going on. >> I like overly skinny guys to be honest. >> I've dated too many. You do or you don't?

SPEAKER_05>> I feel like I'd be dating a girl. >> No, I like them kind of fluffy. >> Severely. >> Yeah. Well, I would rather date like a guy than like a overly skinny guy. >> Wait, how big are we talking?

Kelly (Cars)>> Like dad. >> You said severely underweight and severely overweight. You'd rather date a fat guy? >> Yes. >> Why? >> Skeletor. I can beat him back to

Amanda (Security)life. They can be a big teddy bear and you're trying to like hug Skeletor. They're going to be >> Okay, Skeletor, I can nurse back to health. I cannot help the clogged arteries, bro. >> Why is he like that to begin with? >> I feel like if he's too skinny, he's like a crackhead. >> That's what I think.

SPEAKER_05>> I was going to say he's maybe he's fine. Maybe he does like party drugs. >> What do you think of this? >> The weight. What are we talking about? Severely overweight or underweight. >> The question was uh a woman should not

SPEAKER_05be is it wrong for a woman to be rejected because of her weight? And then I asked, "Would you rather date a severely underweight guy or a severely overweight guy?" So, what's your answer

Euginato both of those questions? >> Uh, point A, I think again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Whoever is attracted to, whoever they're attracted to has the right for that attraction. I

Euginahave no opinion on that. And then the second point is, I don't know, it's uh someone with it sounds like people with health issues if they're under or overweight. So, it's preferable that you're dating someone who's going to

Euginastick around, right? >> So, you know, >> based off just initial >> I guess overweight was going to stick around more.

Eugina>> I mean, I guess under, you know, I honestly neither. Again, neither. I can't say one or the other. I prefer >> Well, it depends on if they're skinny

Kelly (Cars)for a drug problem. the drug problems kind of maybe going to be harder to get a whole whatever whatever the case and somebody losing weight >> there's always question

SPEAKER_05it's like no it's a yes or no form >> and you got to like take that stance pros >> would you guys date a police officer >> no >> yes >> yes please handcuff me >> why did you make that face I love cops

Amanda (Security)>> I know me too >> like a kink >> kind of like handcuff fireman's my pink. So, but I've had >> me down. >> Yeah. No, I've already I've already had enough handcuffs on me. So, I've already went

SPEAKER_05>> I know. They're like, "We respect authority." I'm like, "Why?" >> That's why he they don't come ever like the door when you call the cops fast enough. >> What about you guys? Would you date police officers? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I would. >> Yeah, you would.

SPEAKER_12>> Sure. Why not? >> You guys >> I don't know. I put No. >> Mm- >> Why? >> The domestic abuse rates. No, I'm just kidding. >> No, not for that reason. And I mean it kind of goes against whether

Julie (SPC)>> like well not that I would have anything against the person per se without looking at statistics or anything like that but um uh I mean they're working for the government right? I don't know. I guess

Brian Atlastechnically as a teacher I'm working for the government too. So I don't know. >> True. You corporate slave you pig. >> Uh I have a question for Eugenia. Eugia,

Brian Atlaswould you date a guy who is uh overweight? Like obese, I guess. >> Yeah, I date an overweight guy. Yeah. >> Okay. Uh let's see. Men should pay on

Brian Atlasfirst dates. Hold on. Eugia. Eugene. Eugina. >> Eugina. >> Eugina. Why' you say men should pay on first dates?

Eugina>> Chivalry sometimes is nice. After all that, >> hold on. >> After all that, >> what does that have to do with women's liberation?

Eugina>> Nothing. I get to have an opinion. I get to have confusing opinions. >> I think it's nice if a man sometimes does that. >> Okay. Um, have you ever paid for a first date?

Brian Atlas>> I went Dutch. I've always went Dutch. >> Have you ever paid for his portion? >> Have I >> paid for the whole date? No, I went Dutch. I've paid for my half of it.

Brian Atlas>> But you have had guys also pay for you on dates. >> Uh yeah, once. Yeah, >> one time. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh All right. Why shouldn't

Sin>> I offered >> pay on first dates? >> Yeah. Yeah. Why should men pay for on first dates? >> Um well, you know, the basic because it's the they're the one asking you out

Kelly (Cars)and treating you. Mhm. >> You know, >> I would say that you should never be prepared or like you should never go on a date with >> Oh, well, you didn't you didn't circle this one, so >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Uh, what about you? Why should men pay

Brian Atlasfor first dates? >> Um,

Brian Atlas>> this is the only one that you agree on. Okay. >> Nice. >> All right. >> Why Why should mente on first dates for you guys? Um,

Amanda (Security)I don't know. I'm I don't know about that one cuz >> Okay. Well, you want men to pay for first dates. Is that correct? >> Yes, I do. I don't know. I like the traditional sense on that.

Amanda (Security)>> Especially Yeah. They asked you out. I mean, if you guys like collectively are going out as like friends, then Yeah. But if they ask friends, >> um, unless you guys want to explain why you think men should or Yeah. Why should

Jenna (Bartender)men pay for first aids? I don't have a re I don't have a reason as to why >> you're just in favor. What about you? But >> um I think that if you know we're going on a first date, typically it's because

Jenna (Bartender)he is asking me out and um and yeah, I want to be courted a little bit. >> Not that I don't come prepared, but >> into the mic if you can. Go ahead.

Pia>> Um yeah, like I said, I like I do like traditional values, so I mean I'm not on any crusade, but it is nice when somebody pays for first date. >> All right. Uh, a couple questions here related to this.

Brian AtlasUh, almost every single one of you except for I think you said you want a man to pay for the first date. Uh, if you get married, will you take your

SPEAKER_03husband's last name? >> Yes. >> Uh, no. >> Yes. You've seen mine? >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, to you, Hold on. Why? Why do you want a guy to pay for the first date, but you won't take his last name? I'm a bit confused.

Eugina>> Because my mom is uh one of my I don't know uh mentors, my mother. And I she didn't take my dad's last name. I have his last name, but he paid for all their

Euginadates and they had a nice relationship. And I don't see what's wrong with having preferences like that. I I mean, I like my dad's last name and I want to carry on his name that way for myself. So it's

Kelly (Cars)more more sort of of an example. >> It's a personal It's all personal reasons. Yeah, >> I get that. >> So they were reinforcing the patriarchy. >> It's just how grandfather. >> What's the point of getting married? >> Good points.

Elizabeth (4 Kids)>> What's the point of getting married if you're not going to take on like his last name? Like you're essentially going to be like his wife, like his image. >> You can't even like take on his last name. It's I don't know. >> Some dudes are taking the chick's last

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