Feminist ACCUSES Him Of MlSOGYNY?! RAGE QUIT?! She Went FERAL?! Andrew Wilson! | Dating Talk #244

Date: 2025-05-26

Duration: 9h 51m

Guests

Brian Atlas

JJasmine (Jazz)>

LLauren Selby >

SSavannah Stone >

JJulie (SPC DT244)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Erica Perry(guest)

SPEAKER_03Amy Jeffers(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lauren Selby(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_07Julie (SPC DT244)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Nasica(guest)

SPEAKER_11Carla Leto(guest)

SPEAKER_12Jasmine (Jazz)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Savannah Stone(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

ControversyJazz: burning misogynistic man could be 'net positive' for society

Key MomentAndrew Wilson joins as call-in guest

Key MomentAndrew donates $3,000 for Savannah Stone honeymoon

ControversyJazz accuses Brian and Andrew of misogyny

OtherAndrew Wilson departs the show

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Jazz (feminist), Savannah Stone (married, anti-feminism), Carla Leto (LMFT).

Woman Sets Man on Fire

News article: woman set boyfriend on fire after misogynistic comment.

Feminism/Gender Liberation

Jazz defends feminist views. Accused burning man of being "net positive."

Andrew Wilson Joins

Call-in. Debates Jazz on marriage, commitment, feminism. Donates $3K for Savannah.

Jazz Accuses Misogyny

Directly accuses Brian and Andrew of being misogynistic.

Body Count Discussion

Final topic.

Transcript

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Amy Jeffersme out of here, kick me out of here. I'm not going to sit here and and and [ __ ] do this [ __ ] with you. Okay. I'm on [ __ ] vacation. I'm going to go to

Amy JeffersPismo tomorrow and enjoy myself. That's it. Well, hey, you know what the [ __ ] I think that that way I can get out of this [ __ ]

Carla Letochair and go home. Or go back to my hotel, back to my my You don't need his permission to kick you out. If you want to leave, you can leave. If you want to leave, you can

Brian Atlasleave. Well, the [ __ ] man. Okay. Well, thank you for uh coming on. It was good to meet you. I hope you have a good rest of your night.

Brian AtlasThank you. Thank Thank you very much. Thank you. It was good to meet you. Thank you, Amy. It was It was a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you, Amy. Thank you.

SPEAKER_08This is SP. [Music] Peace out. Peace out with you, too, homie. Great to see you. Glad you can make it. Sorry.

Brian AtlasUh yeah, it's good. It's good, you

Brian Atlasknow. Uh one sec, guys. We're dealing with the situation. Uh anybody want to talk

Savannah Stonemomentarily? Keep them entertained while I step away for a brief moment. I was going to say something funny, but I don't want them to hear me. Something funny. Say it. They're

Savannah Stonevisiting here. The oldest woman on the show acts like a 12y old. Freaking insane. Over here.

Savannah StoneAnd they call 19 and 20 year olds immature.

Carla LetoShe's obviously intoxicated. I think everyone on the show tonight is super beautiful and like super intelligent. And you got to learn how to hold your alcohol. 52.

Savannah StoneIs that all she had though? Like I think tequila and champagne. Yeah. I didn't even know she was drink like I know. I don't know. I don't I don't That's so embarrassing. That's

Savannah StoneThis is like on YouTube forever. I'm not talking about you, Erica.

SPEAKER_08Keep talking, guys. Talk. Funny. You guys can't even keep them. Come on. I I forgot where we even left off. Yeah. I don't know. The smart ladies. I'm just like annoying. Come on.

Lauren SelbySay something. Thank you. Um the doctor, Dr. Laura promote the book maybe. Beautiful lovely doctor lady. I hope she's not driving either. Nothing else to talk about

Carla Letohotel. So I wrote a book about how to deal with the most toxic people. It's called Outsmarting Egoomaniacs: How to Respond to Narcissists and Master Manipulators. It's available everywhere. It's funny and it'll help you deal with

Carla Letothe most impossible people in your life. Written by the woman, Carla Leto. Okay. It has a red balloon on the cover. Okay. Are they able to chat without like paying for it? Are they able to leave

Jasmine (Jazz)something in the chat? But I think to read them it has to be like a hundred bucks. I think for the the regular chat it's like $6 a month, like5 I think.

Savannah StoneWhat's like a deep burning question we could ask and go around the table? What is our dream? What is our goal? Our

Jasmine (Jazz)far goal. Yes, y'all can start. I feel like I already talk to girls. You You talk so much during this whole podcast. Yeah, you got to be exhausted. They kind of attacked

Nasicame. Share one girl. I need to leave you alone. Okay. Fiveear goal. Um fiveyear goal. I really like doing content creation and I'm in the fitness niche,

Nasicaso I think I still want to do it. What kind of content? I do fitness stuff. So, I post like workouts and like motivational stuff, but I've been doing like creation kind of everywhere since I

Nasicawas like 5 years old. So, yeah, it's like my little hobby. If I could make a living out of it, that would be awesome. I like that. That's nice. And I want to

Nasicaget married to my now boyfriend. A Wait, I I have a question if you don't mind me asking. How did your parents like react? So, like, were they

Savannah Stonesupportive of you getting married so early? No. Um, I like I originally had a lot of academic scholarships and I was actually going to go to Oregon

Savannah StoneUniversity, which is like really random, but I turned all of my scholarships down and ended up not wanting to go to college. And that was like the first thing that they were like, uh, like what

Savannah Stoneare you doing with your life? And I my parents always told me I had to get a college degree before I ever like moved on to the next thing like marriage. They're like you have to have a college degree or we're not going to bless your marriage basically. So I said that and

Savannah Stonethen like 2 months later I was like by the way I'm getting married at 18 as well. And they took it better than I think most like a lot of modern parents would. Yeah. But I'm also just very

Nasicastrong willed and like when I want to do something I just like do it. But aren't you like afraid? Cuz I kind of want to do some things that you've done, which is I love that. I love that you're like

Nasicamarried and like you have this per like not I don't know if it's perfect. Like I think every relationship is kind of you know, but it seems like really nice, but

Savannah Stoneum like aren't you afraid of what happens with the value with your family and stuff like that? You know what I mean? So do you mean like our rel my

Savannah Stonerelationship with my family? Yeah, now it's like getting like lived on my own. Like I moved straight out of my parents house and with my husband of course. So I

Savannah Stonethink actually like moving away and starting my own life made our relationship better because now they see like first of all they love my husband like he's the best. And also um they've

Savannah Stoneseen that we can build a life together and like create something really beautiful. I'm sure they had doubts in the beginning of like how are they going to do this? like they're just two kids who didn't go to college and like it's not normal. Do you have friends that are

Savannah Stoneour age that like support you? My best friend is is 20, but outside of that, all of our friends are older as in like 24 to 28 range. So, nothing too crazy

Savannah Stonedifferent. But no, no one is married in my friend group yet. So, that's Wow. Well, actually, no. There's one couple that is, but in my like immediate friend group, we're the only married ones. We should be friends. Yeah, we totally

Savannah Stoneshould. Yeah, I know. We need to connect after this. Is the whole panel leaving? Yeah, I don't know. It's a onewoman show.

Savannah StoneWell, since Brian your plan since Brian doesn't put our uh Instagrams in the description. Go ahead. Savannah Faith Stone on

Savannah StoneInstagram. Oh my god. A southern gal. That's what that is. You guys subscribe. Follow. Mine is Nasica LYF. If anyone

Nasicaknows the Miyazaki anime, that's me. I'm cute. You are super cute. You're not cute. You're beautiful. Oh, thank you. You're beautiful. Oh, thank you. I think

Jasmine (Jazz)everyone here is pretty. I do, too. We saw Everyone on the panel is beautiful. Me and Savannah were on the plane together this morning, like sitting right next to each other. Oh, wait. You guys like like talked cuz you saw her.

Jasmine (Jazz)She was watching the whatever podcast and I was like she's either a fan or she's going to the same shoot right now. Yeah. Very interesting. And you got to pick your seat, right? Like randomly.

Savannah StoneNo, I didn't pick my seat. Oh, see like I like selected a seat really and then you just got randomly put there. I never select my seats. I don't know why cuz I always end up in the middle when I do that. But it's like whatever. That flight wasn't that bad. But yeah, it was

Lauren Selbyby chance I ended up there. So randomly I literally know nothing. Damn. I'm crying. Can you see how many viewers are on here? I don't think I'm gonna tell.

Jasmine (Jazz)Is this gonna go down as Brian's most chaotic? Yeah, I'm like confused. Like, has this ever happened? Like, he's just left the set. Also, I can't imagine how you're feeling as someone who hasn't

Jasmine (Jazz)watched or known the show too much. I'm just wondering when we get to go to bed. That's a great question. My body has was asleep like

Erica Perryhours ago, like crashing. I love this [ __ ] No, I I love this so much. Did you guys ever go on the app Periscope? Only a few subways. No, it was a live stream

Jasmine (Jazz)app. It was amazing. Oh, sorry. Not me. You're fine. Not me directing. The mic you guys. All right. I wonder if anybody's still watching. I

Jasmine (Jazz)have no idea. I don't even know how many live streamers they usually have like views. They get like

Erica Perrya city. Well, how's everybody feeling? The therapist asks. I feel I want to read your book. Oh, thank you. I'm curious about it now. Oh,

Savannah StoneI have to read it. Yeah. Now, I like need to read it in my life. We drove 3 hours. Three and a half. I have anxiety. Do you really? We've been up since 4 Eastern time. I don't know. One, right?

Lauren SelbySo, one this time. Yeah. Oh, you guys are friends. We're better than everybody. We just flew in. We're just from the east coast. me younger, hotter, and better than anybody. Okay. Like, you

Lauren Selbyalready know. I'm just kidding. Okay, I'll shut up. Is better than me. No, we've been up for like 24 hours probably. Yeah, it's 4 Eastern time. From Georgia as well. I'm from Florida.

Erica PerrySo, like literally right above. So, we've been awake for 24 hours right now. Do you know who Jimmy Levy is? Where? But what city is he from? Oh, like you seem like you'd be a part of like his

Erica Perrything. Jimmy, love you, Jimmy. Shout out Jimmy Levy. Love him. Um Dave Ho. No, Jimmy Levy is legit. He's like Where does he live? Florida. Wait, did you say

Erica Perrycontent? Yeah, it's like he he's a singer and he um promotes like Jesus and Christianity. But he's really I may have seen him on He's really talented. Jimmy, you're so talented. Love you, Jimmy. If

Erica Perryyou're watching this, he's probably going to see this. No, he won't. If anybody scrolls to the very end of the podcast, this is what No, Jimmy's going to be pissed about everything I said. I'm everything he says I shouldn't. Wait, I have a question. Is it not

Savannah Stonecommon where you're from that people marry young? It's common. Um, just not in your friend group. Not in my like I would say not in my family. Like my mom

Savannah Stonegot married at 28. Oh wow. Yeah. Um, and then she had me at 30. So like considered later in life, but yeah, I just think my my parents and my

Savannah Stoneimmediate family were always very career driven. And so that just got passed down to me. But the smaller towns in Florida and like north or south Georgia definitely people get chat. These are

Erica Perrythe girls. Oh, sorry. Shout out Hayden and Michelle, my besties. The girls. Blackout girls. Shout out Blackout Girls. Okay. Bye. Love you guys.

Erica PerryHi to shout out the homies. I know. I'm sorry Mari. Oh my god. Wait. Is it Mari? Sure. Oh my god. [ __ ] Mary, [ __ ] I am so sorry.

Erica Perrybeen married for eight hours. I know. I I'm sorry. It's a little wet on this seat. [ __ ] [ __ ] wait. I I lowkey feel bad, but I

Brian Atlasdon't cuz I don't have sympathy for like people. So, you are your own villain. Yeah. How's the conversation been? Have

Savannah Stoneyou guys been chatting? I mean, like, it's not like, you know, controversial, but we've been chatting about each other's lives. Oh, boy. All right, guys. That woman I don't even know where to begin. Um, I don't think I recorded. Is

Brian Atlasshe crying? I feel bad, but I don't shoot. Yeah. And then it was just um What the [ __ ] Mike Davis still sing, man. Still simp. Okay, so

Brian Atlashe's 510. Clay, thank you. Send me the money, Mike. What's going on? All right. Oh, true. All right, Clay,

Brian Atlasthank you for that. Appreciate it. Here, I kind of want to uh try to finish this up here soon. Yeah, it's like Aaron's mad. I don't think that's a Karen. That

Erica Perryis not a Karen. That's something else. That was something else. What happened when I left? That was Bonnie Blue in 40 years, man. That's me

Erica Perryin 40 years, you said. No, I said I was like Bonnie Blue. Oh, wait. Who is that? the girl that [ __ ] like thousands of guys. Were you guys actually talking?

Brian AtlasYeah, we talked. Super casual call. The viewership ever since I left just went I feel bad. I literally said that. I was like, I bet you no one's Brian. You're the star. That's why. I mean, your fans love you. All right, I'm trying to see

Brian Atlaswhat else. Now you're ready to end it cuz your your views went down. I get it. No, it's not that. Just [ __ ] had to deal with that crazy [ __ ] lady. I think you should do a no alcohol rule on

Erica Perrythe show. No. What? Well, so like for that reason, she told us she was drinking Malibu. We don't often that was the sound in the trash can, by the way, was that empty bottle. That was a joke

Erica Perryof I've been drinking. So, we're not going to end the no alcohol rule. It's pretty early in the show to have That's what Fresh and F. The only times Well, the only times we uh like we don't offer alcohol. I know

Brian Atlasthat the only time like if there's a champagne pop on the show, yes. But like behind the scenes, no alcohol. We don't offer alcohol to the guests. And like there were three or four champagne pops.

Erica PerryBut I mean, no, she had Malibu. She showed me. She drank. She drank an entire bottle. And like who knows what she was eating in the restroom. Yeah. Cuz like the amount of champagne she had was like a cup of champagne. That was

Carla Letonot champagne. It was too in the restroom for a long way. Was her shoving the rum bottle down there. And that was in the first like 2 or 3 hours. So like right away she drank a whole bottle of

Lauren SelbyShe got drunk on her own. No, I'm not counting people. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, she was drinking Malibu. She said all good. Yeah. Okay. Where she is? She's not there. She said she has a

Brian Atlashotel room. Her daughter is in town. She'll be fine. She'll not Felicity, why don't you join the panel? Uh it might be a little whiff. Oh my god. Felicity.

Brian AtlasWe'll flip the I know my ass is but right now. [ __ ] just get swap get a different uh seat seat booster for Felicity. All right, guys. Let's get back to the show. Come on. Let's get

Brian Atlasback to the show. Uh Patriot, thanks for the soup chat. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Coastal operator, thanks for the soup chat. Appreciate it, guys. Uh all right, let's do we need to do the

Brian Atlasbow video. The bow video once Felicity's here. We'll do the bow video as she's seen it. All right, go ahead. Play it. This is my ex-girlfriend. Check this out. Watch. This is my expectations of a girl. Boom.

Brian AtlasHuge bow. Did you see the bow? She has to bow. I demand a bow. Boys need the bow. This was after a really long exhausting podcast podcast day. I hope Sue is watching. I hope Sue's watching,

Lauren Selbytoo. Our friend does this to our other friend. She's like North Korean. Like, she's hot, but she dresses like an Amish princess. And she does this to our guy. She has my dinner ready and she cooks.

Brian AtlasHad my dinner ready. It was very nice of her. Uh, Brian, you should eat. Play it again. Right. Boom. Huge bow. Do you see the depth of the bow? Great bow. Fantastic. One of the best I've ever

Brian Atlasseen. Going around the table. Would you bow for your boyfriend or husband? No. Nope. Yes. Of course. Girl, what? I only bow. Can you move your mic that way,

Savannah Stoneplease? Move your mic that way. Me? Yeah. You. Uh, and then turn it straight, please. Go ahead. I do it as a gesture sometimes, but I only bow like bow to God. I don't like, you know, worship my husband. But I thought you

Savannah Stonesaid you'd be submissive to your husband. I But I do bow like as a gesture. Like I think it's cute and like but not in the way that like I I worship that kind of bow. I worship you. Yeah, that that was a cute bow. Yeah, it was a cute bow. Wait, was that actually your

Brian Atlasex-girlfriend? No. No. I was going to say, why aren't you with her? I say that I say that though. Uh, yes. You you'd hit the bow for for Okay. What about you? Would you hit the bow? But I don't think he even wants me to. But if if he

Brian Atlasasked for it, would you do it? Well, if he asked me, would you bow right now for me, sweetie? I would just bow. Yeah, why not? Okay. What about you? Would you hit a bow? It's a cultural thing that we both already do. Oh, you already do it. So, wait, is that a no and a no? And did

Jasmine (Jazz)you say sorry? You said yes. Of course. So, wait. No, no. No. Would you do it for the perfect man? [ __ ] no. The perfect man wouldn't ask me to bow to him. wants to bow. And here's my opinion. Of course, my He's perfect in

Jasmine (Jazz)every other way. Right. But why does he want you to bow? Exactly. It's obviously indicative of like another characteristic trait of he's like, "Bow to me now." Yeah. I don't think they I I

Erica Perrythink most good men don't say it like bow to me like you better worship me. But it's just like I don't know. Asian culture like Do you want that? Is that

Brian Atlaslike your like main one of your main character 61 and a female is what like them to bow to you like that. You know the thing is is that ultimately the bow

Brian Atlasis not that important. What what it is though is a temperature check for her agreeableness and then her cooperiveness. So it it really

Brian Atlasultimately the bow it's not about the bow itself. It's a check for is she submissive? Will she do a totally effortless, completely benign, harmless

Brian Atlasact just for the sake of doing it because I ask for it? And that's what it's looking for, right? Have you had someone do that for you? Oh, yeah. All the time. Are you actually serious?

Brian AtlasWhere are they? If your wife asked you, would you? So, if my No. Well, hold on. Like in private at the house, you know? Well, this is the compromise I'd be willing to make. I say for the perfect

Brian Atlaswoman even I would be willing to bow to her but like once a day that's that's the cap. I won't do more one time. But like for the perfect woman

Erica Perrythere's a lot of things I would be willing to compromise on for the perfect woman. Uh so weren't you advocating for like a western society that doesn't really go along the lines of a western society? What would you compromise?

Brian AtlasWhat's the most controversial thing you'd compromise? kings and monarchs were bowed to. So it is it's out of fashion now. But yeah, I'm doing now. So I don't care. You're old fashioned. I

Erica Perrymean, it's still normal in Asia. Okay. What part of Asia? Like all parts? All more dominantly in Korea. Interesting. Okay. Su Young Kim. I know, right? She

Lauren Selbydoes. Yeah. And David all of her people. Shout out Dave Ho. But I I guess my

Brian Atlasconfusion. Have you question Jazz? Have you ever had a uh like a uh sneaky link? Define sneaky link like a guy who you

Brian Atlasjust started seeing and it's just casual sex basically? No. Have you ever had the one night stand? Yes. In college? Yeah. Have you had like more than one one night stand?

Brian AtlasNo. You had one one night stand? Okay. Have you ever It wasn't a one night stand like you continued to see the guy. Yes. But you hooked up on the first

Jasmine (Jazz)date. Um not on like the first date, but there was situations where like we were hanging out, we were friends, we acquaintances, whatever. And then there

Jasmine (Jazz)happened to be a night where we hooked up and then after that we were together. So I don't know how you would classify that. Okay. How long had you known them? I guess um a couple months like 3

Brian Atlasmonths. What I don't understand when it comes to the bow is you guys will maybe this isn't the case for all of you but I think if you ask a lot of women who refuse to do the bow, well have you ever

Brian Atlashad a one night stand? A lot of them would say yes. It's like you'll let a man put his penis inside of you. One of the most intimate things that you can really do. Uh you'll let him you'll

Jasmine (Jazz)you'll s the D. You'll s the D. You'll let him blast on your face in your [ __ ] hair. Yeah, this is in the eyeball. Oh my god. This isn't not regrettably, I will say. And it's a

Jasmine (Jazz)mixture of being overworked, full-time student, and a lot of alcohol. Oh, but and regret. Y'all will let a guy hit, but you won't do the bow. Well,

Brian Atlasour standards are different now. Maybe if you ask me back then, but I don't know. Yeah, I'm not asking you back then, though. I am asking you now and I'm Yeah. And my standards have changed. Like I wouldn't have a one night stand now. No, I know. But it's like you did.

Brian AtlasAnd a lot of other women who have objections to this whole benign bow thing, they'll suck a dick within a minute, two

Jasmine (Jazz)minutes. Make you feel less than if you bow to a man. Is that why you're like I question why they're asking me to bow to them so that they feel a man and stop

Lauren Selbyfollowing women on Instagram? Is it like the same if they do or don't? Like what do you mean? The question if you ask a man to not follow women on Instagram and then he's like, "Okay, bow to

Julie (SPC DT244)me." Like that's I'm not sure I should say this. Clay, we're not at the roast. What? Go ahead. Sorry. No, I'm not sure if I should say this. Say that [ __ ] But I I

Lauren Selbyfind enjoyment in doing what I'm told. Me, too. So that's hot. It's very attractive. It's literally nothing. Like it's it's painless. You don't have to change

Savannah Stoneanything about yourself. Hey, she's a keeper right here. She's a keeper. Not even not even the bow. I'm thinking of other things like I don't know. Just not being told what to do. Yeah. I think it's attractive. You enjoy being

Jasmine (Jazz)submissive. Yeah. But have you pegged somebody, Jazz? Have you ever pegged a guy? I have not. Has a guy ever asked to be pegged? I honestly don't want to talk about my

Brian Atlassexual experiences on here. I think what she's trying to get at she pegged a guy once. Inappropriate. But no, you're so dirty minded. Oh my god. [ __ ] I'm not into that [ __ ] I'm just saying that's

Savannah Stonethe kind she wants to dominate a dude. She wants dirt. Give her 10 years. We'll circle back. I want to answer her question. Go ahead. Um, you said I

Savannah StoneSorry. You said I like submitting. Is that what like why? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't I mean I don't think you should just submit to any man, right? Like I don't think you should submit to your boyfriend. I think that that's reserved for your

Savannah Stonehusband. So a mar but a marriage doesn't work without a without a submissive wife and husband is head of the household. If it does work, it's much much harder to make it work. Wait, I have a question.

NasicaDid you ever submit to a man before your husband? Was or was he the Oh, really? Okay. No, you never gave. I think it's also like naturally you want to do things for them. Like he doesn't even

Nasicahave to ask me of anything. Like I'm already doing it, you know, being proactive and anticipating your man's needs, your husband's needs. Yeah. But

Carla Letoit only works, you guys. Submission only works, like you're saying, if he's a good guy who's taking care of you back. So this idea of just submissive in general. If you're doing that with a

Carla Letocontrolling egoomaniac, that's how I feel. And it's then then you're being submissive is not that's not creating um a healthy relationship. But what you're talking about your husband's probably a

Carla Letowonderful guy because it sounds like you're very happy and it's working really well. I don't think there's any problem with being submissive to a good guy who loves and respects you and is

Carla Letotaking care of you back. I think like if you want to be submissive and um he respects you and takes good care of you back and that's a dynamic that works for you guys, that's

Carla Letobeautiful. But submission just across the board with any guy, he better be a good guy is what I'm saying. Because if you put yourself in that role with a guy

Carla Letowho is comfortable taking advantage of you or um um uh is is egocentric and not taking care of you back. Well, then I can't imagine how that would be a happy

Savannah Stonefulfilling relationship. Well, it wouldn't be submission. It would be like a power struggle in that sense. And I think a lot of women will will say things like, "My husband's just not a good leader. I can't trust him. He just can't make good decisions." But they've

Savannah Stonenever actually let him lead and like actually submitted. And they think that submission is something that is earned when it is given through the covenant of marriage. So you just submit to your

Jasmine (Jazz)husband because you trust that God blessed you with that husband and you trust God and trust that well hopefully he's a good one. Yeah. Is there any reality where that man isn't living up to that standard of like leading

Savannah Stoneactually and like you're letting him do it but he's just not like I I will say that beginning of our marriage there were a couple decisions my husband made a mistake on and I think that they're they're human. They're going to make

Savannah Stonemistakes. What were the mistakes off the top of my h my head? like one was financial like we sold one of the cars and it I don't know in the end like one of it actually ended up being okay but

Savannah Stonein the at the time we were considering but ultimately I gave the decision to him um that was that's like one I can think of off the top of my head but the other one was probably smaller but yeah

Savannah StoneI would say that that they the goal is for them to learn from that mistake and then to grow from it especially like me getting married so young we're still figuring out life together. So, I don't

Jasmine (Jazz)expect every single decision to be perfect, but I trust him to make that decision and then to pivot if it's Would there have ever been a breaking point for you if he kept kind of making those mistakes that and wasn't seeming to learn from them? Is there a breaking

Jasmine (Jazz)point for you or what do you mean by breaking point? Like would you stick it out and just hope like like divorce or what do you mean? whatever you would consider like I don't know taking time

Jasmine (Jazz)apart or sitting him down and being like hey seriously we need to consider making better decisions rather than just letting him mess up like what what would I guess what would be your divorce breaking point like how many times would

Savannah Stonehe have to uh divorce isn't an option for me under any circumstance in my marriage even if he cheated on you yeah I wouldn't leave him damn that's crazy you know my husband

Erica Perrywouldn't cheat on me that's just something You're a bad [ __ ] I will say that. I called you a [ __ ] earlier, but I meant like I say [ __ ] to everyone. So I like if you took it to wasn't that offended. You're like very bad [ __ ] vibes. So like if a man cheated on you,

Savannah Stoneyou would tolerate not any my husband. If it was a boyfriend, I'd leave. No, I feel like you're I know you're a man. Like you're a husband. If he cheated on you, you would tolerate it? It would be extremely hard to get through. I think that that would be probably the hardest

Savannah Stonething I went through in my marriage. But I don't believe in ending a marriage. What if it was reoccurring infidelity? I mean, we'd have we'd have an issue there. Like, but yeah, I wouldn't leave

Jasmine (Jazz)my husband. Even if he did it mult multiple times, I wouldn't leave my husband. I think women should fold laundry on the first date. Ryan, what the I think men should show that they're capable of

Savannah Stonefolding an article of clothing on the first date. We have the I disagree with you, Ryan. You disagree? I disagree that women Why is that? Uh, I think in a dating relationship like boyfriend,

Savannah Stonegirlfriend, you shouldn't do you shouldn't be doing too many wifey things for him before marriage because they're supposed to earn. And I'm not saying that you shouldn't do anything. I cooked for my boyfriend when we were dating all

Savannah Stonethe time. Like I cooked for him. I maybe did his laundry once, but when you live as you're married before you actually get married, you're prematurely submitting to that man. And it's also like that saying, uh, what is it? If you

Savannah Stoneget the milk for free, why would you buy the cow? Like then he has no incentive to Well, wouldn't isn't that related to sex? Yes and no. I think I guess she's relating it to other I'm relating it to

Brian Atlasget married. So, you're going to practice being married. I suppose it could be related to other things, but it's kind of that's that's really always uh that analogy comes from sex, but she's saying

Brian Atlasit could be about that, too. Yeah, but I don't think like would you would y'all be cool if a guy it's like this conditional femininity. So y'all will say, well, in order for me to be

Brian Atlassubmissive and feminine and all these, you know, traits or whatever, uh, I need to meet the right man first who I feel safe doing that with. Now, I'm not

Brian Atlassaying that you should be submissive to any guy, but this idea that you're going to be like this super masculine woman

Brian Atlasand but then wait until the you're in a safe environment with a guy to be feminine is crazy in the same way that

Brian Atlasif the guy said something like, "Well, you know, I am a masculine man and I am a leader and I am a provider and I am a protector,

Brian AtlasBut I'm only that way until I feel safe enough to do so with a specific woman. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Brian AtlasAre are you like is that towards my argument about like or what exactly? Well, you're saying like, well, I need to hold back certain things like being submissive or I don't know what the

Brian Atlasother thing is until we're married. And so to me, it's just this weird conditional, but like men can't get away with that. Men can't say, "Well, I'm really dominant and masculine and a

Brian Atlasleader and assertive, but until then, I'm going to be feminine and I'm going to be not assertive, and I'm not going to be a

Brian Atlasleader until I feel safe enough to do so with the woman." It wouldn't even get far enough. You wouldn't even get far enough in a relationship with a woman if you're not willing to do all those

Brian Atlasthings on the front end upfront. So, I think in the same way that women expect men to do these things upfront, I think women should do the things upfront, too. Well, let me revert it back to men real

Savannah Stonequick because I think the same for men. I don't think men should be providing fully for a woman while they're dating. Like I don't think that he should be putting a roof over her head or getting her pregnant or whatever else you know a

Savannah Stonehusband does in a marriage. So I'm not saying hold everything back, but I'm saying there's something about marriage that makes it so sacred. And when you give pieces of your of yourself to people that are not your husband and wife for women, of course, like it um

Savannah Stonelowers their chance of pair bonding with their husband. And also I think it creates resentment for women if they're prematurely submitting in a boyfriend girlfriend relationship because they don't have a ring on their finger. So they don't have that safety provision

Savannah Stoneand protection that they would have in marriage. But it's like, oh, I'm already giving you, you know, submission as your wife, but you haven't made me your wife yet. Does that make sense? I mean, I think the trade-off would be giving him

Brian Atlaskids. I don't know if just So, what if you're not being submissive, what are you being quarrelome and nagging and No, no, no. When I say when I say the word submissive, like sub submission,

Savannah Stonespeaking boyfriend, girlfriend, I mean like it's not the same type of submission you would have with your with your husband. Like you can still be feminine. You can still be nurturing.

NasicaYou can still be a caretaker, but not living as husband and wife. Sure. Why don't you marry to date? since you were talking about like divorce isn't an option for you. And then also you're

Nasicasaying like if there's a boyfriend and girlfriend situation, he shouldn't be 100% providing and she shouldn't be 100% submissive. Mhm. What? Wait, what do you mean by that? Oh, you mean cuz I said

Nasicadate to marry? Yeah. Why isn't it like in Islam where you do um marry to date where you marry and you stay with that woman or husband? I mean, I would prefer it that way. I just think that this is

Savannah Stonehow like that's how we are in the west um where you date for a long time. When I say date to marry and that nobody dates to marry anymore. I don't I think like especially around our age, it's just like oh just let me let's date for

Savannah Stonefun. Like let me go on you know five dates a month and and hook up with these guys and let's just have fun. But to me like I was always looking for my husband through dating. Like I would never

Brian Atlaswanted just to waste my time. So, yeah, I'll get I want to get back to the bow thing here really quick, though. Um, and again, I think the woman should do the laundry, first date. Do the laundry,

Brian Atlasclean the house, first date, immediately. Hit the bow, boom. But, everybody here raised their hand when they want the guy to pay for the first date, right? Everybody here raised

Brian Atlastheir hand. Well, besides you, but you did. So, um, what's the most expensive first date you've ever been on, Jazz? First date? Yeah. Like maybe 50 bucks,

Jasmine (Jazz)100 bucks. What do you think? 200 bucks. Um, maybe like 150. 150. And he paid the whole bill. Yes. Okay. And you had an

Brian Atlasexpectation that he'd pay it, right? Um, yeah. But he's that type of person, too, right? Yeah. But I don't understand when it comes to this expectation. So,

Jasmine (Jazz)if if we're looking at it in practical terms, I would have been fine splitting the bill, but he's the type of guy that is like, "Well, you could have insisted." Why would you? Sure. But well, if he had asked, I'm not going to

Brian Atlasbe like, "No." Like, I did he ask on the date? No. Okay, but hold on. We're getting off topic here. So, to bring it back, all of you, except for her, I guess all of you have the expectation that the guy

Brian Atlasshould pay for the first date. Let's say that a typical first date, let's just say it's a hundred bucks, right? You know, decent place, a drink or two, dessert, whatever. Let's say it's 100 bucks. Maybe it's cheaper. 50 bucks. If

Brian Atlasthe guy pays for the whole thing, here's what you're asking of him. Let's say he works, and I know some of you are probably dating men who make more than this, but you're 23, right? So, I don't know. It's You could be dating a guy who

Brian Atlasworks a retail job. You could be dating a guy who's also in college. This guy did own his own business, right? But you would still have this expectation on the other guys who are also in college. Maybe they make $20 an hour. Let's say

Brian Atlashe works a construction job and he makes $20 an hour. When you women say, "I want a guy to pay for the first date." You're saying, "I" and the let's say the first date costs $100. I want you to

Brian Atlasphysically labor for five hours so you can pay for my [ __ ] That's what you're saying when you say, "I want men to pay for the first date." Split that in half. When I ask you to do this and it takes

Brian Atlasyou 3 seconds to do, it takes no effort. You don't break a sweat. You want men to pay for first dates. A lot of men are in uh they're in blue collar jobs. They're working dirty, dangerous. You're

Brian Atlassuggesting that doing the dishes and laundry isn't labor. Well, I'm speaking specifically about the bow, but I would I would even further argue that uh doing the laundry takes like, okay, you put in

Brian Atlasthe machine, then you fold it 10 20 minutes tops. I mean, cleaning the house, that's a very that's that's a little different, you know, that's a little that could be a bit more intensive. But what I'm trying to get

Brian Atlasout here in as it relates to the objections to the bow that takes three seconds, no effort. You don't break a sweat. When you ask a guy to pay for the first

Brian Atlasdate and he works a construction job, gets paid maybe $20 an hour. You're asking them to work five hours. Two and a half hours. You're not

Brian Atlasasking. Okay, fine. Fine. Sure. Because he's paying for his own food, though. Fine. He's He's working two and a half hours. A bow takes three seconds. So So why is it fair for y'all to say,

Brian Atlas"I want a man, assuming he works a physically laborious job, to physically labor for two and a half hours." Why is it fair for you to say on the first date that a woman should clean your house and

Jasmine (Jazz)fold your laundry? Is the same care of everything? Okay, then that's the same standard. I expect you to pay the bill if you're expecting me to do your laundry and clean the house. We're putting the same standard on each guy. How would you do the laundry for a guy you barely you don't even know? You

Carla Letohave to go on a date to find out what he's like. Are you going to like take her home and say, "Do my laundry." No. Here's what I do. Here's the move. Here's the move. He's single, by the way. Weird. But that's just weird. I

Brian Atlasjust met you wash my [ __ ] socks. I'll take you to dinner. Yeah. So, look, here's here's the move. I'll I'll tell you the move. I'm going to put you guys on some game. I'm going to put you guys on some game. Here it is. Here's here's

Brian Atlasit. All right. So, the comes over. The girl comes over and you're like, "Oh, let me give you the tour of the house." And then the tour ends in the laundry room. And then you just look at her. You look at the

Brian Atlaslaundry machine. You look back at her. Maybe you glance back at the laundry machine. Now, I'm a nice guy, right? Uh I've already put the clothes in. So, it's it's wet. She needs to Well, it's

Brian Atlasit it was washed already. She just has to transfer it to the dryer. She's got to transfer it to the dryer and then she has to fold it, right? So I, you know, you know what? Sometimes I'm really nice. I already put in the dryer. It's

Carla Letodone. It's dry. It's ready to fold. So she just needs to fold it. She has to put your clothes in the dryer cuz you paid for her spaghetti and meatballs. That's what you're doing. Exactly. That's exact You're very Carla, that's a good

Brian Atlasobservation. So that's crazy. Where's Charlie? Hold on. Hold on. And so here's what you do. And then you just look at her. You don't even need to say anything. And then you just you look at the the the dryer. You look back at her

Brian Atlasand then you walk out of the laundry room, right? And then she starts on the first date. Yes. On the first date and then she starts folding. How long does it take? She's saying it's weird and like I would never go Well, first of all, I wouldn't go to a guy. I'm not

Savannah Stonesurprised by her answer. I am. She's like very like I from her answers this whole time. Like I'm surprised she's saying that good lady. But I'm also logical. Like I'm not going to go home with a guy on the after the first date

Savannah Stoneand then he looks at his laundry and I'm like I'm touching your dirty underwear like we just met. Did you do that for your man? Look, I'm a nice guy. Yeah. Yeah. Like when did you start doing for your man? Oh, I I don't know. Um I mean

Erica PerryI did his laundry a couple times while we were dating. But like at what point though? Um she also has to make me a quilt. What? Brian, what the [ __ ] are these question? Here's my compromise. And some

Brian Atlas[ __ ] moccasins. If she doesn't know how to make moccasins, Hold up. Let me If she doesn't know how to make moccasins, find someone who will. If she won't,

Erica Perryfind somebody who will. Mhm. That part. Brian wants a unicorn, everybody. He should She should knit me a cardigan. Brian, if she doesn't knit

Savannah Stoneme a cardigan on the first date, that's the What if What if Here's my compromise. First date, she brings you homemade banana bread. Yeah. You pay for

Savannah Stonedinner. That's her like little chocolate chips in it if you want it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm down for I feel like that's more of like I'm feminine. I know how to cook. Here's your banana bread, but I'm not coming over to do your I'm a

Erica Perrychocolate chip cookie. Oh my god. My mom saw a clip tonight. How does your mom see that? Oh, sorry. Non sector.

Jasmine (Jazz)Um yeah. So I look I'm just saying I'm Look and I'm Ryan wants a unicorn everybody. How long does it take you to get ready for a first date? Hours.

Jasmine (Jazz)Hours look like I know what this is. You think this is an accident? You think this is an accident, son? You hopped in. Show you this before. This is

Erica Perrypremeditated, baby. This is premeditated right here. You think You think you know there's a lot barely groomed. You put on your big leia matter. It took hours. Okay. Yo, I got to I got to get the

Erica Perrybeard all going. Do you genuinely love big labia or is it just like a troll mechanism? I only date women with large I think you're [ __ ] trolling. I only date I refuse to date. So like on a first date you're like, "Hey, what are

Erica Perryyour labia length?" Yeah, sure. I'll ask. Kind of like how a woman could be like, "Hey, what's your bank account?" Is that equivalent? Yeah, probably. No. So asking a a girl's labia length is equivalent to asking the bank

Brian Atlasaccount if a girl were to ask like how much money is in your bank account. Well, I I'd actually be more likely to just ask her body count cuz the labia thing is not the deal breaker. Are you going to wear that

Erica Perryon a date? Probably not. Okay. I've only worn this two times. You would. I wouldn't wear it. She says you would. They were like, I'm a big fan of the show. Do girls know like what you advocate for when you go on a date with

Erica Perrythem? Do they know like what your um Do you link your podcast and your Yeah. Do they know like about you? Bro, I've have not been on dating apps in a while. Not I'm not talking about dating apps. I'm just just talking about like general

Erica Perrydating. What about it? Like you can't look. Do they know who you are? Like like do you meet girls like on a um like like in random? I don't reveal. So I'm not going to reveal my relationship status, but I can That's not reveal your

Brian Atlasrelationship status. Well, I'll tell you this is so uh I'll just say this. I've been doing content for a minute, but since I've started the podcast, I don't date like normal people. So, some of

Brian Atlasthis [ __ ] I say you got to understand, like, don't get me wrong, the way I used to date was like the old way. What's the old way? Oh, like I'd be taking initiative or I'd be messaging them on

Brian Atlasthe dating app or I'd like, you know, when I was younger, I'd see a girl. So, now girls, say, "Hey, what's up?" Huh? Now girls message you. Exactly. So I only pick I've only picked among the

Erica Perrygirls who contact me first. That's kind of Oh, that's interesting. Okay. H. So you don't like go out to a restaurant or like a bar or club and like you don't approach girls? I when I was younger

Brian AtlasYeah. I So the girls you only date now are girls that hit you up? Yeah. It's a way better dynamic. Trust me. Why? Can you like elaborate on that? Cuz I'm I'm This is interesting. They've uh they've

Brian Atlaslike just pre-seelelected for me. He already knows they're interested in. Yeah, because they know. And it's just like I it's this uh interesting role reversal because it's I mean when I was

Brian Atlasyounger it was the total opposite. Most women don't approach or hit on men. So yeah, it's just a way better position to

Brian Atlasbe in I guess. I don't Yeah. Wow. Hm. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Yep. So I can't relate.

Brian AtlasSo yes, the girls I dated uh they reached out to me. You don't think they're weirdos though? Like some of them are. Sure. Ex. That's what I'm saying. Like but then I don't date them.

Brian AtlasYou have to like But there are good there are like plenty of good ones that are like, "Hey, Brian, I really align with all your values. Here's like here's like my girlfriend application." That's a way better dynamic. Hold on. What is the girlfriend application? I

Brian Atlasdon't I don't have a girlfriend application, but they'll literally tell me about themselves and be like, "Hey, Brian, I've heard you say XYZ on the podcast. I fully agree with everything you say or most of what you say." Love

Erica Perrybombing. I want to see one of these DMs. I'm so curious. No, I I don't not I don't not believe you. I just like I'm so curious what these these girl I was about to say hoes. What are these girls saying to you? I'll just say this. Before I

Brian Atlasstarted the podcast, I was on dating apps. That's how I was meeting girls. uh shortly after I started the podcast, stopped the dating apps and it was just people coming to me. So interesting.

Carla LetoYeah. Wow. So the conclusion is podcasts are a [ __ ] magnet. Well, no. I mean that's not what I'm saying. If you want [ __ ] start a podcast. That's not what I'm saying. But in the same way that Brian here, but like all you girls

Brian Atlashere, you get a bunch of guys that come to you. Like it probably doesn't cross your mind like, "Oh, okay. I'm going to be the one to go out to the bar and go approach that dude. I'm gonna make all

Savannah Stonethe effort. No. So, I'm like I'm basically doing what y'all do. You attract. You don't chase. Maybe. Oh, yeah. I think you have to as like a public somebody in the public sphere though because

Carla Letootherwise, like you said, it's just harder because you have to explain your values to everybody except But isn't chasing a masculine trait? Isn't it masculine to chase, to pursue? Oh, I've done that a bunch. That a bunch. But

Brian Atlasyou're saying, but by not doing that, you're not in your masculine then, are you? Well, I think one thing I found when women do initiate, it's totally token initiative. So, they'll like send him often times when they message too, sometimes they're direct, as I explained

Brian Atlasit, but a lot of times they're kind of just like, "Oh, hey, can I be on the podcast?" And then like a couple messages later, it's like, "Oh, never mind. I just wanted to talk to you."

Brian AtlasWhat? So, sometimes they're indirect with it. Uh, but do you [ __ ] them the first time? Hold on. I'm not Hey, I don't I don't kiss. You're not going to answer that. I don't kiss and tell, but what I I'll tell you this is All right.

Brian AtlasI know you don't tell your body count. I know. Sure. So I know I've watched. So it's like the initiative that when women do take initiative, it's a very token. So it's like they'll start the

Brian Atlasconversation and then the conversational burden basically immediately shifts back to the guy anyways. So, like, yeah, they send the first message, but I'm going to

Brian Atlasbe the one leading leading it forward from there. Anyways, so out of Yeah. Damn. Okay, girls. I don't think I've ever

Erica Perryrevealed that. Actually, if you want to date Brian, just slide into his DMs. Slide into his DMs and tell him that you uh Oh, I wanted to give the girls some game, though. So, I know you hate the bow, but look, or at least some of these

Brian Atlassubmissive things or whatever. Or even the laundry. And it doesn't have to be the first date, but the first time you go to the guy's house, I'm [ __ ] telling you, I know you're going to hate this, but the f again, it doesn't have to be the first date, but the first time

Brian Atlasyou're at the dude's house, just go and fold his laundry unprompted or ask him, "Can I do your laundry?" I know that that sounds bad. Why are you

Brian Atlasgiving? But the guy will [ __ ] love you. No, he doesn't. And if you guys are struggling as women, he doesn't. Hold on. If you guys are struggling as women

Brian Atlasto lock down a dude or get why not try it? Like what actual harm would it do? No, it it won't do any harm. No. And I think it'll go a long way to getting the

Erica Perryguy. And if that's your ultimate goal to get the guy be like, do you think women just like doing laundry? It it doesn't Do you think do you think I like He thinks he's giving advice. That's not

Brian Atlasgood advice. Women advice. No, it's not. It's actually really good. a man that only sees value in you. No, it has nothing to do with it. They don't give a [ __ ] They think you're just a door.

Savannah StoneIt's No, it's going to set you aside from every Any girl can fold your laundry. Sure. Any girl can fold. I promise you they would rather have you fold their laundry than talk to them

Savannah Stoneabout what you learned in psychology class that day. Like men are just very they're simple creatures. They don't look they don't look down on you for doing their laundry. I promise. They're like, "Oh my god, this is

Brian Atlaswell my mother. You could try this." No, they don't. And I think that's condescending. They want I'm not meaning to be. Well, you got to understand for some dudes if that's all they're looking

Brian Atlasfor. You said s their D. Oh, sorry. That's not going to keep a dude around. Trust me. And y'all y'all women have been there. Trust me, y'all have been there dealing with a dude and you're giving him everything sexually. And it's

Brian Atlasnot enough to keep him. It's not enough to keep him. You got to do something because all the other women are offering [ __ ] in their mouth. You got to do some other [ __ ] if you want the guy. And look, you might not like it, but I'm just being honest with you and I'm

Brian Atlasgiving you some [ __ ] game. I'm telling you, it is as sad as this sound. I agree with you. It doesn't have to even be laundry. Bring him like cut him

Brian Atlassome watermelon or some fruit or some [ __ ] I make hummus when bake something. But I'm telling you, I'm putting you on some game. You got to set

Lauren Selbyyourself apart from these other ladies. Yeah. I agree, man. The first night, you make his bed, you you fold his little boxers, and then you leave. That's it.

Savannah StonePeriod. He's in love. Done. No, but they could look at you as a doormat. Like, that's not doormat activities. I I That's literally my role in my marriage. But like, did you do that initially for

Savannah Stoneyour man like in the get if I'm saying it's my role in my marriage? My husband is down on me. Like for the first two days y'all's dynamic and it's well that's why I told him I don't agree with first date but like doing that is an act

Savannah Stoneof service and I don't think a man is like oh she's my little slave like she's is that your love language you arctic like your top what's your top like love language like act of service sorry you

Erica Perryhate this topic okay do something put yourself look do something different so good that it [ __ ] makes him go Crazy. I will say please don't touch if you're single. You

SPEAKER_14shouldn't be giving advice on No. Because And don't touch that, man. You don't [ __ ] that. You suck the dick. Make you more of a doormat. No, cuz I hear your mouth, not your [ __ ] All of us can suck your dick. Come on. Like

Erica Perryseriously, we're all grown up. It does. That's a good question. I've had guys ask me to be their girlfriend after I suck their dick multiple times. I'm like, I'm not down. I need to think about that one. Cuz you didn't fold their underwear. No, they asked me to be their girlfriend. I just don't want to

Erica Perrydo it. Like [ __ ] But that's Yo, Natalia, thank you for the membership. Natalia, good to see you. I don't get it. No, cuz I like sucking dick. It's Stop. Stop. Sorry. Look, you got to look

Brian Atlasfor some dudes, maybe that's going to work. Maybe. But you got to be bringing cuz look, how long does like of the time that you spend with a man, unless he's just

Brian Atlaskicking you out right away like okay, you have you oral, regular sex, 30 minutes, an hour maybe. And then what about the other seven hours I'm with you?

Carla LetoI would hope that there would be meaningful conversation after usually what I look for on the first date. That's just me. Girl, you don't know who it's me, Felicity. Trust me. I put you

Brian Atlason some game. I have the best advice ever. Yeah, I'll try. Shook his dick. That's your advice. That's not advice, bro. That's what That's what the ladies are doing. You either don't do you don't do

Erica Perryanything. You just act like you do anything or you do suck the dick so good that it's like wow. It makes them go crazy. They'll forget that. No, they don't. They literally a little cuz it's not

Jasmine (Jazz)like you're not you're not having actual like intercourse. No, that's like folding clothes but like to the extreme. I think that giving a guy head would actually make you seem like more of a doormat than folding his laundry. That's

Brian Atlaswhat I'm saying. It's way more extreme. I don't know. I love it. It's great. But that's the thing is that women I date different guys than you guys too. I Yeah. Women more will more readily have

Brian Atlasa casual sexual encounter. Like immediately have oral sex, immediately have intercourse, but take 10 15 minutes to fold his laundry. That's so much. I'm

Jasmine (Jazz)impressed. But you'll literally put his penis into your [ __ ] mouth. Oh my god. I love that part. It's satisfying for her. Mom, if you're watching this, I'm sorry.

Brian AtlasI like these girls. These girls at the universities. I'm going to do the [ __ ] Trump hands. The [ __ ] Trump hands. These girls, these sorority

Brian Atlasgirls pied pike or sig ep. You're going to go to the fraternity house. And that guy's been day drinking all [ __ ] day. He's been sweating into his Calvin Klein

Brian Atlasboxers. Oh my god, I'm spitting. You're putting damage in the He's going to be sweat. He's been sweating in those boxers for for days. He's frat boys. Do you think they changed their sheets? And you're going to be sucking that [ __ ]

Brian AtlasYou're sucking the dick. You're sucking the frat penis. Sucking the frat penis. You're sucking it. The [ __ ] And you like that? What the [ __ ] I'm

Erica Perryokay. He's gagging. And uh what what was I saying? No. Don't suck fat boy dick. Fat boy dick is dirty. Yeah, you're going to put the frat fat boy penis. Suck the rich dick. Suck the rich dick

Brian Atlasand know that they have money. Then you suck the dick. You'll put that suck the rich dick. He's been playing beer pong. I can show you rich guys. He's been playing the fat guy. I've been playing beer punk all [ __ ] night. Let me tell

Brian Atlasyou this. You're the type of girl. [ __ ] play beer punky. Anyways, look, I'm just saying and you will insert his member into your gullet, but you won't do a [ __ ] bow.

Erica PerryThat is [ __ ] crazy to me. What the [ __ ] 100%. Have you ever eaten a girl's like noo-noo on the first time? I don't do that. I don't go down. Wait, do you know who Ashino is? Really? Why? Oh,

Brian Atlassorry guys. Do you know Ashino? Sorry. No. So upset. Uh, what is that? Like an internet like girlfriend thing. Look, I have not done that. I've done it. I

SPEAKER_14haven't done it since the Bush Bush administration. I love how you remember that. It was an off camera. Wait, hold on. But what's the point? You don't enjoy it. Yeah, it was like the shirt.

Erica PerryIf he's not going to appreciate it, why do you I appreciate it in other ways. Not related to my mouth. You don't like it? How else? Wait, when was Bush

Erica Perrypresident? What year? 2000 to 2008. 911. That's the last time. Eight Noo-Noo in two 2008. Yeah. 2007208. Y'all haven't

Brian Atlasseen Noo-Noo in decades. It's almost been two decades. No, no. Look, but by the way, let me make something very clear to you, Erica

Brian AtlasPerry. Let me make something clear. Uh my philosophy when it comes to to uh Well, not that, but pleasing women. She's got to come first at least once. She's got to come first. She's got She's

Jasmine (Jazz)got to come first. At least once. No, not by my mouth. There's other ways. The majority of women don't. So, like finger finish by penetration. E, there's other ways. I never gave my

Brian Atlasmouth. Yeah, mouth. How did we get here? I don't know. Circle back. There's an orgasm. There is an orgasm gap. It is true. How do you do

Lauren Selbythat? What's the orgasm gap? How do you make a girl orgasm, Brian? Yeah. What's the Yeah, it's not like I'm greedy. It's like her pleasure. She She's got to come first. Okay. So, how do you do that? Wait, what if she's 10 out of 10 perfect

Jasmine (Jazz)woman for you and she's like, "But this laundry." Yes. Like you have to fold her up like a She's perfect. Perfect. So she's a virgin. Oh my god. Whatever your You want a virgin?

Brian AtlasPerfect in every way, but that's her one stipulation. She's perfect. Perfect. Yeah, sure. I'll do it for the perfect woman. Sure. A virgin is perfection to you. Well, hold

Erica Perryon. There's other there's other chair uh characteristics characteristics, too. You want the list? I can give you the list. I'll give you so you don't we can

SPEAKER_05assume you exclude a body count over 10 basically 200. Okay. He wants a virgin. How old are you again? Find guys traditional gender roles 1989 [ __ ] Why can't they understand

SPEAKER_05that guys also find girls traditional gender roles attractive? They think we want talkative independent boss face. I don't think you want that. Quiet. You

Brian Atlasknow men want quiet virgin. I'm not going to find a virgin talkative independent boss. I am not low. It could be low body count. But you you asked about perfect woman. So

Jasmine (Jazz)yeah, she the per Yes, she would be a virgin. A 37year-old virgin or what's what age range are you? Uh in terms like what would be the perfect woman? Yeah, sure.

Brian AtlasUh you're saying you're asking for age? Yeah. Yeah. Uh I don't know between 22 or 20 to 23, I guess. 20? Yeah, sure. Brian, you're in your 30s. Seven or

Erica Perrywhatever. Actually, no, I don't. Yeah. No, cuz most guys I dated when I was in my early 20s were much older. So, I Yeah, I get you. I don't Yeah, I'm not I don't care what the age Yeah, I don't care about it either. I date guys who

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