Feminist ACCUSES Him Of MlSOGYNY?! RAGE QUIT?! She Went FERAL?! Andrew Wilson! | Dating Talk #244

Date: 2025-05-26

Duration: 9h 51m

Guests

Brian Atlas

JJasmine (Jazz)>

LLauren Selby >

SSavannah Stone >

JJulie (SPC DT244)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Erica Perry(guest)

SPEAKER_03Amy Jeffers(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lauren Selby(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_07Julie (SPC DT244)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Nasica(guest)

SPEAKER_11Carla Leto(guest)

SPEAKER_12Jasmine (Jazz)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Savannah Stone(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

ControversyJazz: burning misogynistic man could be 'net positive' for society

Key MomentAndrew Wilson joins as call-in guest

Key MomentAndrew donates $3,000 for Savannah Stone honeymoon

ControversyJazz accuses Brian and Andrew of misogyny

OtherAndrew Wilson departs the show

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Jazz (feminist), Savannah Stone (married, anti-feminism), Carla Leto (LMFT).

Woman Sets Man on Fire

News article: woman set boyfriend on fire after misogynistic comment.

Feminism/Gender Liberation

Jazz defends feminist views. Accused burning man of being "net positive."

Andrew Wilson Joins

Call-in. Debates Jazz on marriage, commitment, feminism. Donates $3K for Savannah.

Jazz Accuses Misogyny

Directly accuses Brian and Andrew of being misogynistic.

Body Count Discussion

Final topic.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasare 70. [ __ ] What the [ __ ] That's what young girls I [ __ ] guys who are 70. I mean, the the I actually I was thinking about maybe making the cut off like if you were born after 911. That's a good

Brian Atlascut off. So that's like what they would that's 200 that's like 24 24. Yeah. So they're born 20. Too old. 2001. You want the Afghanistan? When did we invade

Brian AtlasAfghanistan? So girls who were born in 2000 are now like the cut off. No. Good. Why don't you like girls your own age? Well, hold on. Are we too old

Brian Atlasfor you? Hold on. I would date Just better laundry than these [ __ ] Just to be clear, I can make those creases. She's like, "No, I'm better." Sorry. So,

Erica PerryI've actually I've dated women older than me, too. I When I was Sugar Baby when I was Sugar Baby Brian. No, no, no. It wasn't No. When I was

Brian Atlas32, 31, 32, I dated a woman who's like 44, 45. Oh, what happened? Uh, I don't know. We dated like 6 months. You went home with a capri. But like, how who

Brian Atlasended it? Uh, it was kind of mutual. Why? Oh, why? I don't know. He didn't go down on her. She She had a It No, she didn't

Erica Perrycare. Um, she did. She had a yappy dog and she always wanted God. Here we go. She always wanted to bring the dog over and I was like, "That is a deal breaker. I've heard that from the dog's fault." I've heard that

Brian Atlasfrom No, it's like I still wanted to see her, but she's like, "Can I bring the dog over?" I'm like, "Your dog barks the entire time." I know. That's gross. I'm like, I don't even like that. Yeah, I get you on that. Wow. Trying to have a peaceful night. But did you like her

Savannah Stoneoutside of it? Huh? Outside of the dog. Did you like it? Yeah. No, she's cool. Damn. What a deal breaker. Brian, do you want kids relationships end? Uh, yeah. So, would you say that's a big reason of

Lauren Selbywhy you want a younger woman? Yeah. I want seven children. Seven sons. I want Yeah, you probably should go for Why do you prefer sons over having daughters?

Brian AtlasHe wants a basketball team. So, I'm I'm agnostic, but I I'm I'm very I have very positive sentiments toward Christianity. So, I'd like to reference the Bible.

Brian AtlasSons, well, I'm no longer in my youth. Sons in a man's youth are like arrows in the hands of a warrior. Blessed is he, [ __ ] I totally butchered it. Blessed is

Brian Atlashe who has many. What? Oh, no. Blessed is he whose quiver is full. So yeah, there look there's just something about like if you have sons, if you ever need to go to war,

Brian Atlasfiguratively speaking, not literally. Uh there's just something about having sons like it's the lineage that you can go to war with your sons. Dictated by sperm figuratively. I agree. I would rather

Brian Atlassex is dictated only. No, it's not. I wouldn't be upset if I had daughters, but I'm just saying there's something like a father-son connection bond is something different. Sons father

Savannah Stonedaughter bonds is different too. Mhm. But there's just I want sons. But you'd be okay with having girls too cuz I need soldiers. What's that? Yeah.

Brian AtlasWe all want sons. We keep going until I have at least three sons. So if we have 10 daughters, we keep going. Be themselves. You're going to keep going. Yeah. So if we have 10 daughters in a row, keep

Erica Perrygoing. You're like Elon Musk. You want to spread your seed to all the hoes. Elon Musk is a billionaire. You should start now then. Like you're 36. Like [ __ ] But yeah, just to be clear, I've

Brian Atlasdated older women. Like it's not I I It's not like I'm hanging out at college parties trying to get No, it's like you

Brian Atlasare in UCSB. I saw so many little boys. Don't don't don't. Um so yeah, I mean if there was a woman my age, I would it's not like I wouldn't date her.

Brian AtlasIf there's a girl who's even older than me, I would date her. So, it's not like I'm just kicking at college parties trying to date a co-head. Like, I don't think you're kicking at college parties. I'm not. I'm definitely not. Yeah, I

Brian Atlasknow you're not. Yeah. Well, I'm not cool enough to. You're very interesting person, Brian. Thank you for that, guys. Let's get through the freaking notes so we can get out of here. Oh [ __ ] We When is this over? Never. This might be

Brian Atlasour like this is the longest of what I've watched. Oh, there's the longest and most chaotic. It was pretty chaotic. Is it chaotic? Oh my god. I mean, what happened? I'm going to blast through these. Um, what would you want the minimum yearly income?

Brian AtlasGuys, you got to be quiet so I can get it done quick. What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? Quick answers. I said 80,000 into the mic if you can. Oh, I

Erica Perrysaid 80,000. What about for you? I don't even know what incomes are. I just like wealthy men just like Yeah, honestly. What about you? Uh, well, okay. No,

Erica Perryactually, she's gone. So, what was her answer? She says doesn't want a husband. So I feel like three. Shout out Grandma

Brian AtlasJones. It's probably for the best that she left. Um I said 100 100,000. Okay. Are you married? How much does your husband or out of respect for finances?

Julie (SPC DT244)Uh what about you? So sle provider or dual income? Soul. Wait, what? Just him. If it's just him and I'm not working. Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah. I I had a hard

Julie (SPC DT244)time with that one, but 150 to 200,000 living in California. Okay. Per year. And then 80,000 if it's dual. If it's dual. How much do you make? Um I

Julie (SPC DT244)actually haven't calculated it. Um you do, right? But when I was when I was teaching, uh previously I was making about a little over 90,000. All right. What about you? Uh I don't know. I'm

Carla Letohappy with the amount of money my husband makes. So, what about you? Same. Okay. Uh, how about you, Brian? Minimum income for What do you want your your

Brian Atlasgirl to make? Uh, well, I would be willing to date a woman who does have a job, but zero. Don't care. She could be unemployed. How much? She could work at Chick-fil-A. I'm not going to disclose

Brian Atlasthat, but I'm doing I'm doing doing good. Oh, I see. TT. I'm doing all right. You know, look, I'm a starving college student. I uh I spend a lot of money on popsicles

Brian Atlasfor Felicity. She's actually bankrupting me. The amount of money I'm spending here the popsicle. How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date? 5'8. Um

Jasmine (Jazz)I tend to go for people who are at least 510 now, but I've dated way shorter. Okay. What about you? All sizes. You'll date a guy who's like 5 foot three. I have. Same. Even if there's no

Lauren Selbysugar or sugar. Oh no. the sugar h like has to be there. I guess yeah. Uh what about you? I'm 5'6. I I love six foot,

Julie (SPC DT244)but you know. Okay. I'll bend 510. Sure. I'm 5'8. My husband's 6'2. What about you? I'm 5'2 and I prefer six feet, but

Carla Leto510 and up is fine. Okay. I'm 5'2 and I like short hunks. And my husband's 5'7 and I'm good with that. All right. What about you? I'm 5'2 and anything above 5T is good for me. Okay. Would you rather

Jasmine (Jazz)cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike? Um, I said bear, and this isn't an original take, but um, a bear will attack you because they

Erica Perrythink you're a threat. A man will attack you because he knows you're not. Uh, okay. What about you? I'd rather encounter a man over a woman because

Erica PerryI've been over a bear. A man or a bear? Oh, sorry. Oh my god. Yeah, a man. But also like if it was like a man or a woman, I'd pick the man because like I've had more

Erica Perrypredatory girls Thank you. come at me than men. What about a bear? Oh, the I don't want to encounter that. They they can climb. They can run 30 miles per hour. [ __ ] have you ever seen videos of bears? They're crazy. No, thank you.

Erica PerryAnd also like I've seen girls and they're like, "Oh my god, I'd rather die fast." I'm like, "No, you be a slow death because bears just like rip your face off kind of like a monkey does." Okay. Yeah, it's insane. What about you?

Lauren SelbyI would choose a man because there was a chance that he might not kill me immediately and if he tried to I could at least fight back and then emotionally hurt him. Sure. What about you? I would choose a man. I choose to believe most

Carla Letomen are good. What about you? A man. What about you? Absolutely a man. I don't think that there's like a high likelihood that he's a predator. And if he is, I feel that I can defend myself physically against a man over a bear.

Brian AtlasGot it. What about you? A man. Into the mic if you can. a man. Uh, really quick, I won't linger on this long just for the sake of time. Uh, so you said you picked bear essentially.

Jasmine (Jazz)Yeah. Because the man could say you. Is that kind of where how the What are the tactics? I'm curious to defend against a bear. Yeah. Have you heard like black bear this, brown bear this? Like there's Have you seen videos of bears chasing

Jasmine (Jazz)after people? They're crazy. They can climb up trees. I understand a bear can rip someone to shreds. No, they can go 30 m hour. me like a random man in the middle of the woods. Like I'm horrified.

Savannah StoneA bear I'm just like hiding and like what if it was like Brian in the woods? Like would Brian scare you in the woods? Like if you'd never met Brian before. I mean come on. What if it was like a

Jasmine (Jazz)white dude that voted for Trump? I feel like I'd be like I'd see a bear and then I'd be like see Brian and be like Brian help me. And then he would just like throw me to the bear. That's true. Yeah. That's exactly true. That's true. If me and her were in the woods together and a

Brian Atlasbear showed up I would just Exactly. I would dip. I'd be like, "Nice knowing you, Jazz." I think he would, too. It was good, good, good talk. Uh, okay. But, uh, there is the concern though,

Brian Atlaslike, okay, the bear, worst case scenario, he like eats you, kills you, whatever. Worst case scenario, the man like tortes you, essays you, kills you. So, there's that component. H, do I even

Brian Atlaswant to debate the bear thing? Probably not. Um, let's move on. Yeah. Like, it's just me again. Let's have publicity. I'm really tired of this question. Uh oh. Yeah, we'll do this. Oh, also here's what we have to do. Hold

Brian Atlason. Here. We do this always at the end of the show. There's no way. You guys have to take your makeup off. No, I'm not doing that. You have to do it. Have to do it. Have to do it. My makeup already

Carla Letomelted off. Pay me, Brian. Nope. I'm thankful. I never said I look good without makeup, so no thank you. Exactly. Take it off. I

Jasmine (Jazz)think our makeup already melted off. It's been 10 hours. This is I will say I'm not pro him doing this. This is dehumanizing and embarrassing and disgusting. It goes against all your beliefs, girl. I wake

Erica Perryup without makeup and I can't wait to have the makeup off my face. My personal participate nevertheless. No, it actually goes against everything you've been saying. So, I'm very confused why you're Yeah, I'm confused why you're doing this. Oh my god. Don't argue with her about it. Just let her take my

Erica Perryhusband's watch. Well, I know you're beautiful without it, but like it goes against like a lot of what you've been debating, actually. Here, why don't you take your makeup off? No, thank you. You're beautiful without your makeup. I know I'm not. I know I'm a trogue. Like,

Erica Perryno. This is very dehum. I'm really I'm actually very insecure about my looks. Like, I know I I know I'm not cute. Yeah. Like, you're just picking on without makeup. Women's insecurity. No,

Savannah StoneI'm not. I feel like personally, Brian, you might need some makeup. What the That was mean. I'm actually excited. I'm so grateful you gave me a makeup wipe cuz I I know. This is like taking time

Erica Perryout of my night routine right now. It's giving pick me energy. Low key. How could she say that? How is that? Because you're like, I'm going to take my makeup off. It's liketitty. Pick me. I don't care about makeup. We don't wear makeup

Erica Perryfor men. We wear makeup because we want to make ourselves feel more beautiful. Yeah. I'll yap yap yap. I Mhm. Right here. Yeah. Me either. I'm not even wearing makeup. I do not wear I got called a cake face in high school because I love wearing makeup and I

Jasmine (Jazz)don't give a [ __ ] Like but I don't think it's pick me to take off your makeup cuz I don't have any negative read from your down the chair one still here cleaner without actually

Jasmine (Jazz)pretty. Those girls are ugly as [ __ ] without makeup. I don't think Also, I'm cooking too. I love cooking. Send me the money ugly people. Is he fake? Is this a bot?

Brian AtlasDoes that mean we can go home and go Betty by now? Uh, we got we got a bit more to we got a bit more to get through. You know what I mean? I've got layers on. I'm not taking this [ __ ] off. Take it off. Take take it off. I probably have like $2,000 on my face. I

Erica Perryhighly doubt that. Oh, I Oh, you want to bet? Sure, I'll bet. You want to see the the price of all my makeup products? Do you actually want to bet? You're underestimating. You actually want to bet? Yeah, cuz my makeup's expensive as

Erica Perry[ __ ] I will take. But just to be clear, you're saying the amount of product that you have on your face right now, the amount of all the different products I have are expensive. This is such a bad

Brian Atlasargument. I don't wear like Walmart. Sorry. No, no offense to that. You can It would have to be You would have to calculate that per use because each makeup container has multiple uses. Each

Brian Atlasit's each individual who argue men should pay for first dates because here's all my all the makeup that I have to pay. But you you it's one individual. No. When we get ready, that's like that's a bunch of money. Your clothes,

Erica Perryyour makeup, your hair, your [ __ ] shoes. That's thousands of dollars all accumulated. That's not how that works. Yes, it is. Expected to be presented a certain way. Yes. And if you show I've I've done the

Brian Atlastest. I' quote some Drake. I'mma quote some Drake here. I've showed up looking like Haggard vibes and they don't like it. With no sweatpants on a first date, like a nice place. They only want that if you're a side ho. The girl you're

SPEAKER_14already dating. They only want sweatpants chilling with no makeup on if you're a side ho sucking their dick. Sweatpants, hair tie, chilling with no makeup on. That's when you're the prettiest. I hope that you don't take Yeah. When your dick is in their mouth. Like, no. Only boyfriends think that.

Brian AtlasYeah. Why? I don't think my husband. I tell girls I'll tell a girl it's our first time meeting. Don't wear makeup. Don't wear perfume. Perfume? Yeah. What is your like Why are you against Bakarat? It doesn't smell good. Doesn't

Erica Perrysmell good. You don't like You don't like expensive [ __ ] You're like, you're lowkey a little bit u baja humbug. What the [ __ ] is that? Like I don't know. You're like the Grinch. You're the

Erica PerryGrinch who stole Christmas. Brian is the Grinch who stole Christmas. He did you have your heart broken? Who hurt you? No. No. No. Who are you? Just like I'm confused. Like not confused.

Erica PerryLike who broke your heart and how long ago was off the It's like sh You did have your heart broken, Brian. Yes. Oh, you're going to do the fake yawn.

Erica PerryIt's a real yawn. Shout out to my ex, Stephan. Please unblock me. I really miss you. No way. Oh, wait. We need to I miss you, Stephan. What? Just Yeah, [ __ ] I don't care. You think he's watching? No, but he probably will see

Brian Atlaslike Oh, so like I have clipped. All right, guys. We're going to do a roast session. We're going to do just for time reasons. We're going to do $69. Uh, it's going to have to be $69 for the roast

Brian Atlasbecause otherwise we'll be here all freaking night. And this is the longest stream you've ever had. Stream. Yeah. Like the video, guys. Yeah. Usually ends like 12, guys. Twitch.tv/ whatever. Drop

Erica Perryus a follow. Drop us a prime sub. I honestly blame you. I blame you. It's most It's all your fault. It's my energy. I'm going to make you go bye-bye, Brian. Bye-bye. Or

Brian Atlasbye-bye. Bye-bye. No, it was previous chair three. What was her name? Oh, yeah. Grandma Jones. That wasted a lot. Shout out Grandma Jones. We love you, [ __ ] Okay. Uh, let me blast through a couple. We're not going to be able to do

Brian Atlasall the questionnaire. I'll just do a few. Um, uh, Jasmine, you said a man dating a transgender woman is straight. Why is that? If they consider themselves, if they think that trans women are women and they consider themselves straight, then Yeah. Yeah.

Brian AtlasBut let's say there's an outside perspective, right? So, let's say I uh I don't know the gender identity of the two individuals and I see them engaging

Brian Atlasin a a public act of intercourse, which I suppose is a crime, but there are and it's two two there's two penises. I see

Brian Atlastwo penises. Would it be fair for me? But the the gender identity which is not known to me is one of them identifies as a woman and

Jasmine (Jazz)one of them is a yeah cis man I guess or yeah sure would it be fair to me for for me to categorize that as a homosexual. Yes. If you were like calling the police you'd be like yo two dudes are having sex

Erica Perryright now. Did you take off all the makeup? Yeah. Why I don't have my makeup on? I don't have my phone. Wait. Can Oh, can you guys hold up hold up the damage? Girl, you're pretty. Wait. Hold it. Hold

Erica Perryit up. Wait. And this is extremely humanizing. Yeah, I don't look like I look crazy. I know, right? Are you going to You're really pretty, dude. You have like natural freckles. No, this is

Jasmine (Jazz)extremely rude to do. I You know the influencer Melanie Miles. It's rude. I think Yeah. I don't care what you think. Obviously, the majority of the women on the panel, they love this. They loved it. They're not participating in I'm

SPEAKER_14really considerate offering you guys complimentary makeup remover. Like I'm considerate of your your skin. You're really pretty without making rude. I know. I saw her on the flight this morning. I was like, "She's so pretty."

Brian AtlasSame. You're young and beautiful. I actually actually voice crack. I think it's a sign of me being a just allaround just a very very nice guy.

Jasmine (Jazz)Yeah. cuz it's like no it's kind of it's like emasculating but in the feminine way where you're trying to like take a jab at like a common role women have to feel as though they have to participate in like getting ready to go out or else

Jasmine (Jazz)if we showed if someone showed up tonight with no makeup you kind of feel underdressed like you're not ready if you go to an occasion you put on makeup there's rarely anyone there I'm Hold on wait you're all about gender liberation

Brian AtlasI'm literally liberating you from your you're trying to embarrass women by doing it though this is I'm not trying to embarrass. Hold on. I'm sorry. You're ignoring the nuances of the fact gender

Savannah Stoneliberator. You Thank you. You're welcome. I've just liberated you, Jazz Men. I think I to me makeup isn't something where I'm like, "Oh, I need to like change the way I look." I think

Savannah Stoneit's very feminine. And I think that when you dress up and look a certain way, it just looks presentable, if that makes sense. Like it's a it's almost like an accessory to your outfit. It's not so much like, oh, I have to wear

Jasmine (Jazz)this every single day and I can't go anywhere without it. And a lot of women do like cover up their insecurities that way and feel like they have to wear makeup. And I think that sucks. But there's a plenty of women who use makeup

Jasmine (Jazz)as a hobby. There's plenty of men who use makeup as a hobby. So, I don't know. I just think that you're kind of taking jabs at women's insecurity, potential insecurities, you guys, by handing them a makeup wipe.

Brian AtlasLike, cheers. I look like a trog without makeup, y'all. When it comes to the makeup thing, I want to say this. Many of you are so accustomed, so

Brian Atlashopelessly dependent on makeup that you will fight to protect it. You are a slave, born into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison

Savannah Stonefor your mind. Where are you reading this? I'm not reading it. It's just GPT up here. And this the makeup. He's a poet. It's a prison for your mind. No, I I don't see it that way because I don't feel like I

Savannah Stoneneed it everywhere I go. I could I could have showed up here tonight. Yeah, but I think that that's insecurities within themselves. And Well, I think it's social. Have you had plastic surgery on

Savannah Stonemy face? Yeah. No. Oh, wow. You're really pretty. Thank you. Yeah. No, you actually are. Like, you've never had a nose job? No, I'm I'm Eastern European, so it's like the Oh, no. Like it look

Brian Atlaslike you Yeah, you look good. Yeah. Thank you. everyone. She's natural, but she's married, so don't slide in those DMs. I think I'm liberating women. Slide in these DMs, though. I think the women get

Jasmine (Jazz)to decide if they're being liberated by this. It doesn't feel very liberating. It feels like you're stomping on women's insecurities. I've given you an opportunity to remove the paint from your face. Shave your beard right now on

Brian Atlascamera. Yeah, luckily I'm the host of this podcast. Look, by the way, trash. Just to be clear, it's not trashing women, but uh no woman is forced to do it. You all did it voluntarily. Social

Jasmine (Jazz)construct. What's a social construct? No, it's women are taught that to be presentable, they have to and I'm fighting against that

Jasmine (Jazz)system. You literally sent in the message, come makeup, hair. Hold on. That's makeup and hair done. That's obviously a standard put on to women. Come with your makeup and hair done. But that's that's an indication that we

Brian Atlasdon't want you to be doing your hair and makeup in the bathroom while we're trying to get the show going. We don't want girls or it kind of feel makes someone feel pressured like oh I need to like do my makeup. First off, most women even if we had nothing to say about

Brian Atlasmakeup, they would do it anyways. The reason, hold on, hold on, hold on. The reason we say be hair and makeup ready, which is a very common phrase in the

Brian Atlasentertainment industry is you we when okay, we want you to arrive ready to go. We don't want you each individually. There's like 10. We don't

Brian Atlaswant you in the bathroom for 10 minutes and then the next girl's got to be in the bathroom, the next come ready to go so we can sit down and get the podcast going. It's not. If a girl doesn't show up with makeup, I don't care. I agree

Savannah Stonewith that. I've been in the both for the podcast and for dating. I prefer women without makeup. And it's a it's I think none of us are trying to date you. Brian, let me ask you this. If you were

Savannah Stonetaking a girl to like a fine dining, like exquisite dinner, and she's like in a dress and heels, you'd want like no makeup with full gown and down just a

Brian Atlasbit. Yeah. Uh, so it's like a fine dining place, but she's otherwise dressed like appropriately for the thing like mastros. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it, but in my mind, I'm like, look,

Brian AtlasI think you underestimate the level to which I care about anybody else. So, I don't give a [ __ ] what like the external world. Oh, he he's with a girl. I'm

Brian Atlasnever going to see these people at this restaurant again. I don't have some ego thing where I want to go to a restaurant to be seen with a hot girl. don't care. We can stay at home and order Door Dash. I don't need to be like if if I'm at a

Brian Atlasrestaurant with a girl. I don't care about the other people in the restaurant. It's me and it's her and I'm that's what I'm focused on. I don't care about the other people. If they want to judge because they want to judge me because I'm with a woman

Brian Atlaswho's not wearing makeup or they want to judge her because she's not wearing makeup, I think that's wrong. But I just frankly don't give a [ __ ] I don't mean so much like the other people, but I'm

Brian Atlassaying would you not want her to put makeup on like ever or like I would I would be 100% fine being with a woman. She need not ever put any sort of makeup

Brian Atlason. Now and I actually have a preference against makeup. Now there's different kind like lipstick don't lipstick I don't like any of the foundation or the what is it the cover up or whatever.

Brian Atlasconcealer. Don't like maybe I'm I'm okay with eyeliner, but if she doesn't if she doesn't wear eyeliner, you don't like makeup. Most men don't like makeup and they don't even know if you're wearing makeup half the time. I think though I wear makeup around men and they are

Erica Perrylike, "Oh my god, you look so natural." If I do have a light face, they're like, "Oh my god, is this your natural look?" No, this is [ __ ] We're done up for the cameras. No, this is I got so much powder on. But I have worn a light makeup look. I'm like, "Wow, you look so

Jasmine (Jazz)good without makeup." They don't even know. These men are dumb as [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. I got less comments about how much makeup I was wearing when I wore full foundation, full concealer. And now that

Jasmine (Jazz)I let my freckles show and I don't use full foundation, I get comments about how I'm wearing too much makeup. So, they really don't know anything. Yeah, it's facts. I think honestly like I don't wear makeup at all. Like we

Nasicashouldn't really care. You have makeup on. No, I don't. Yeah, you have really good skin. Thank you. I don't really like we shouldn't really care about what other people say that much because at

Nasicathe end of the day like during your life your family, your friends, your partner, those are the people who really care about you and they're not going to be like, "Oh, I'm not going to like love you if you wear makeup." I agree. But I

Jasmine (Jazz)feel like in professional settings there is some sort of pressure to get ready as a woman and that includes wearing some I don't feel pressured though. I think girls wear makeup. The majority of women

Carla Letodo makeup. I wear makeup cuz I like the way I look with a little bit of makeup on. It's not that deep. Women wear makeup for themselves and men don't care. Don't would rather see you without makeup and don't even know what's going

Carla Letoon with your makeup. Men have no idea what goes on with our makeup and they don't care. But women wear makeup because they think they look prettier with it and they like it. Yeah. Okay. Uh moving off of makeup, uh going to

Brian AtlasLauren, you said women are just as physically strong as men. Why is that? Said that. Or you circled. So the statement is women are just as physically strong as men. To which you agree and you circled. Oh, maybe I did

Brian Atlasyou misread it? Yeah. All right. Uh obviously that's not right. Jasmine, you said people of color can't be racist towards white people. Yeah. You used the other term correctly earlier. Prejudice.

Brian AtlasOh, you Okay. And then you also said people of color can't be racist towards white people. Yeah. Don't just don't be racist. Oh, maybe you just misunderstood a little bit. Yeah. You would agree though

Brian Atlasthat that like for example, a black person could be like it's possible for them to be racist towards a white person. I mean, you shouldn't be racist in general. No, but that's not I'm not

Nasicasaying um that they should. I'm just saying can they or could they? I don't understand really how that correlates because I mean like I guess at the end

Brian Atlasof the day anybody can do anything they want. So no I'm not prescriptively saying that they should be racist. I'm just asking can they be racist. I mean I

Brian Atlasguess everyone can. So Right. But you're Okay. Sure. Um so then I guess just to you Jasmine uh explain why is it that people of color can't be racist towards

Jasmine (Jazz)white people? Um because systemically black people don't benefit from the idea of racism. Racism against black people

Jasmine (Jazz)on the other hand is a systemic issue that affects people of color. You don't think there's like individual level? There are individual circumstances. Yeah. But but like for example, if I

Brian Atlaswalked up to a black person and I called them the n-word, you would agree that that's racist for me to do, right? Uh, so then if a black person and and then like I committed a violent crime towards

Brian Atlasthem, right? Oh. Uh, if a black person walked up to a white person, called them the c-word, and then committed a violent crime towards them, would you consider this like a racist act? Yes. Like a hate crime? Yeah. But I think would it be

Jasmine (Jazz)racist, though? I mean, yeah. If he's like, I hate all white people and simply did it because they're white. Yes. And he's using a a white slur, then sure.

Brian AtlasOkay. But but systemically like again it doesn't affect white people the same that it affects black people. And are are you just is this within the cultural zeitgeist of the United States

Jasmine (Jazz)or Western countries? Um I'd say I answered that question um just with the um idea of the history of the United

Brian AtlasStates. Yeah. in the experience of if you looked at South Africa for example uh where there's a cultural difference there's a black majority and they occupy

Jasmine (Jazz)the majority positions of power yeah socioeconomic differences there compared to here so black people in South Africa could be racist yeah so then I guess if we're talking geopolitically and right

Brian Atlasyeah including everything then uh you said men are more privileged than women why is that also Lauren you said that too men are more privileged Sorry. Men are more privileged in society than

Jasmine (Jazz)women. Why is that? Um although the patriarchy has negative effects on men as well again that lead to death and

Jasmine (Jazz)suicide. Um they are the oppressors. They are at the top of the hierarchy. Um which ones? Men. Yeah. But how many?

Brian AtlasHow many? What? Well, I think it would be inaccurate to state that men collectively are at the top. Only a small proportion of men are at the top. And who are you suggesting that is? What

Brian Atlasdo you mean? Or how many? Oh, like who are the few 0001% of men have any power or say in this country? Okay, sure. I mean, if we're talking

Jasmine (Jazz)about like owners and businesses and stuff like that, but if we're talking and like politics, too. Yeah, I guess you could say that. But it is men at the top, right? In every sort of sector,

Jasmine (Jazz)business owning, politics, men are at the top. They are the majority. Yeah. But like myself, for example, I have no more say than a woman does.

Brian AtlasAnd that would apply to the vast majority of other men, too. So you're I mean, what you're doing here is an apex fallacy. You're looking at the top top percent of apex of men. And you're But they're the top in every category. Not

Brian Atlasnecessarily. What instances would you say women are? Oh, sure. In the hierarchy. Well, when you say every category, what do you

Jasmine (Jazz)mean? Like again, CEOs, businesses, politics, like creating the laws, owning the money, paying the people, like there's female CEOs, there's

Brian Atlaspoliticians. 5%. Is that the actual number? I don't know. Yes, we can look. Okay, sure. I'll grant it. I sure. So, and that's not because women have less drive. It has to do with

Brian Atlaslike the structure of I actually Well, do you also believe in the wage gap, right? I didn't put that. No. Oh, no. Um, do you think that there could be like an evolutionary or biological

Brian Atlasexplanation for why men occupy these positions of power that wouldn't be related to like sexism or patriarchy or male privilege? I think um women aren't

Jasmine (Jazz)able to succeed in positions uh in business or become a CEO because they are kind of tied down to these roles of being the homemaker and taking care of

Jasmine (Jazz)the kid. And of course there are the biological factors where the baby feeds from the mother. So there is this time and period where the mother has to physically be there with the child. But I think there are instances after that

Jasmine (Jazz)where the father could hold equal responsibility, but we just kind of push those responsibilities on to women even after they aren't necessarily needed to be there 100% of the time. So then they're less likely to give their time

Brian Atlasto their career in business and becoming a CEO. I mean, in order to propagate the species, you need to have women who are going to give birth. So obviously, a subset of women are going to have

Brian Atlaschildren, and that that does have an impact, but that's a large just 5% of women are Yeah, I think that could be explained in a bunch of ways. I think one of the arguments I like to

Brian Atlasmake that is related to dating actually is that this occurs actually to to a mating pressure that women create in men that isn't created back at them. So, let

Brian Atlasme ask you a question. Do you find men who are like at the top of their field attractive or would you find them attractive based on uh do you think like successful men, do you think that

Brian Atlasthey're more attractive than guys who work at like McDonald's? Um, yeah, I guess. Just looking at that, it shows drive. Yeah. It has some traits. You would find that attractive, right? Yes.

Brian AtlasOkay. And then you want men to pay for first dates. Yeah. Okay. And then you want a guy to perhaps do maybe a majority of the providing if you're in a long-term

Jasmine (Jazz)relationship with him. And if you do if you do eventually have kids, Again, this doesn't necessarily relate to me because because you're unsure about having kids. Yeah. And I and I'm not sure that I would want them to take

Brian Atlascare of the majority of expenses. Would you want a guy to make at least as much money as you make? I think we should be about the same. Yeah. And then do you find men who have who are high status?

Brian AtlasDo you find them attractive? High status. Yeah. So, I mean I we could look at the entertainment industry. So, it could be like a professional athlete, professional musician, uh, or A-list

Jasmine (Jazz)celebrity. So, actor, musician, athlete. I think there might be statistics on this that people in those roles and high status roles, as you're saying, cheat more. Sure. Or uh, so I find that not

Brian Atlasreally attractive. I'm not necessarily into athletes and actors. And you wouldn't specifically find that appealing? No. Okay. Uh, but you did say that you would find a guy who has status

Brian Atlasattractive. if you want a guy to pay for first dates. So, by women's own stated uh unrevealed and revealed dating preferences, and I think it would

Brian Atlasactually make a lot of sense why men occupy these positions of power more so than women because you create a substantial mating pressure on men to

Brian Atlaswant to succeed to not just to make money but to get status. And if having status means being at the top of the hierarchy in whatever field that it could be anything. If getting status

Brian Atlasbeing at the top top of the hierarchy makes you a more attractive mate to women than women's own dating preferences would seem to be a substantial contributor to why men

Brian Atlasoccupy the top positions of power. Because I don't know about you, but I think one of the most heavily motivating factors for most people would be finding a partner, finding uh if for women,

Brian Atlasfinding a boyfriend, finding a husband, for for men, finding a wife, finding a girlfriend. It's extremely motivating. In fact, I think men are actually more motivated. Well, at least they're sex

Brian Atlasthey're more sexually motivated. So, as a man, if you're not successful, if you don't have money, if you don't have some degree of status, it makes it harder for you to find a woman, whether it's just for short-term casual sex, whether it's

Brian Atlasfor relationship, whether it's marriage, and whether it's to have kids. Women, you don't have that same barrier. As a woman, you can work a minimum wage job and you can still find a partner. Men really don't care about your status,

Brian Atlasyour money, your success. So, you women's own dating preferences have a massive impact on this. We have standards and you don't I don't get right why you're upset. No, I'm not

Brian Atlasupset, but I'm arguing the point. You're saying, well, why is it that 5% of women occupy these positions of power? I would or have these CEO jobs or whatever. Do you think most men are CEOs or they

Jasmine (Jazz)occupy those spaces more because they want to attract women? That's the only Or do you think they just have more access to opportunity than women do? Because women are Oh, I would I would definitely say that. Well, I think

Brian Atlasthere's multiple components for why people want to to achieve in life, but I would say that uh yeah, I think men are highly motivated by getting sex and they're highly motivated by finding a

Jasmine (Jazz)wife. Do you not agree though that the standards that we put on women to take care of children makes it harder for them to

Brian Atlassucceed in these roles? It it slims their opportunity. No, I don't think so. It's like baseline two jobs like overtime. Yeah. But nothing I mean if a

Brian Atlasif a if a woman wants to prioritize her career, she absolutely can. And women who do prior prioritize their career, they're that 5% though. That's why there's this discrepancy, right? Because

Brian Atlasnot all I I and I think there's like a there's a not an aptitude, but there's a lack of perhaps desire. Men have this massive motivating factor. It's

Brian Atlasbasically like I think men are more motivated and women are less motivated.

Brian AtlasYou disagree? Yeah, I disagree. Okay. But you would agree that would you agree with me that the following is true? Men don't really care about a woman's money or her success or her career. Yes. Okay.

Brian AtlasSo then and would you agree that I don't think that makes up for the large disparity that we're seeing? I think it make I actually think it makes up for a significant amount of disparity. That's where we disagree. I guess I don't know how do you think men work jobs to make

Brian Atlasmoney just for the [ __ ] of it? Like they just do it, you know, like most men, you know, I kind of assumed so because I crave success just for the [ __ ] of it. So I kind of assume Well, this is the difference. This is a bit of a

Brian Atlasdifference between men and women. So men work hard so that they can provide for their family. Men work hard so they can provide for their wife. They work hard so they can provide for their kids.

Savannah StoneReally? Yeah. Men they could sleep on the floor. Like men are so simple. That's all they're worth. They should Have you been to a guy's house? He doesn't have like that's it. All these I

Brian Atlasdon't know. He doesn't need all this [ __ ] Like men make do all this hard work for their family so they can one day have a family. They can provide for their wife and they can provide for

Brian Atlastheir children. Men want to work hard for that. When men work hard and make a lot of money, they think, "Oh, great. I can provide for a wife and children. When

Brian Atlaswomen work really hard and make a bunch of money, they think I don't need a man. And that's a totally different psychology. Mhm. So, you think you're

Erica Perryworking hard for these TTS's for your girl? Yeah. One day I want to have children. So, Brian, that's really romantic. Yes, I'm working hard. I really I I you know

Brian Atlaswhat? Deep down I know you're like actually a hopeless romantic. Like I'm not really about Yeah, I know. Actually, I'm not really about like material goods. I still drive a car I bought over

Brian Atlasa decade ago. I don't need like a super fancy car. Don't care. I wear sweatpants from Costco. There you go. I don't need any of that

Brian Atlassuperficial material [ __ ] I don't care. I really don't care. And so, look, wait, that makes my heart That's so a But yeah, that's that's what I'm It's to support my family. That that can include

Erica Perrymy parents. That can I I want to make sure my parents are good. You need to get out of Santa Barbara to find your soulmate. Santa Barbara's fine, but you're not gonna find your soulmate here. I really feel like your soulmate

Erica Perryis not here. The [ __ ] Okay. Yeah. So, I'm going to like detour, but like Yeah, everyone. Brian's soulmate is not here. Let's get him to get out of here. All right. Next.

Brian AtlasYeah. Let's move on. Let's move on. But uh Okay. Adios. So, how are men more privileged? Shout out to Michelle. Love you guys. Back up girls. How are men more privileged in society? You also

Lauren Selbycircled that one. Shout out Dave Ho from like basic beginning of time. They make more money. Mhm. Because obviously we get pregnant, we have to take time off.

Lauren SelbyWe have to raise the children. That's just literally biology. And I mean it's not there's no argument there. Okay. Like it's there's no argument. Sure. Uh Jasmine, you said

Brian Atlaswomen are oppressed in the USA. How are they oppressed?

Jasmine (Jazz)I also think that men are oppressed in some ways. Are women more oppressed? That [Music] um men are the oppressors, but I don't

Jasmine (Jazz)know if we can It's pretty crazy. Say on an equal I don't know if I don't know how we can compare which men though. That's what I don't understand. What if What if it's just

Jasmine (Jazz)rich people and it doesn't matter that they're men? It's just that they're rich and they have power. But if we look at the numbers like the richest people

Brian Atlasmajority are men and there's a reason for that apparently for for what? Women. Yeah, that's one of the reasons. Um okay. So how are women

Jasmine (Jazz)oppressed though? Like what specifically? How are they oppressed? Again I think the patriarchy oppresses uh Yeah. No, but how are women oppressed? um the standards put upon women that we

Brian Atlashave to be homemakers or feel social pressure to wear makeup every day. But then I would just say, okay, men are oppressed because there's a social pressure society and by women that we

Savannah Stoneneed to be protectors and providers. But that's not by women, that's by men themselves. Men have created this system. I I think oppression is something completely different though. Like I

Savannah Stonewould call I would call like countries in poverty oppressed. I wouldn't call anybody in America oppressed. I don't think having a

Savannah Stonesociety a societal standard pushed on you is being oppressed. It's just kind of like your expectation to create a healthy and thriving society. And if we were to say, well, nobody should be

Jasmine (Jazz)expected of anything and any everybody can just do whatever they want, which is what's happening in our society. It just it's going downhill very quickly because of that. I think when a certain demographic of people are

Jasmine (Jazz)disproportionately like disenfranchised, how are women disenfranchised? Well, I I mean you can include race in this too. She's just talking about the existence of oppression. She doesn't think there is oppression in America.

Jasmine (Jazz)Um, I think when there's like stark differences between demographics and success rates, that shows that there's some form of hierarchy, which then expresses there must be some form of

Savannah Stoneoppression happening. But do you think it's because of oppression or just simply because men are making more money because women don't not as many women work as as much as many men and women

Jasmine (Jazz)take off time. Yeah. I think the the structure that that exists under is oppressive. I'm not saying men are doing this, this, and that. You just said men are the oppressors. Well, they have they

Brian Atlasthey are at the top of the hierarchy. Would you not agree? Uh the people who are at the top of that hierarchy typically tend to be men, but

Brian Atlasit's not clear to me if they're there simply by virtue of being men. I don't think they're given it on a silver platter because they're men and the vat

Jasmine (Jazz)99.999% of men have no more power than women. But I think men benefit from that top

Jasmine (Jazz)top percent being men. How I mean because they're not having laws made about their bodies. Yeah, they do. Well, sure in the

Brian Atlasinstances that you referenced before, but again, that's by men for men by men. I don't understand. So, they're the oppressor and they're also oppressed. I don't know how to explain. But what what if it has nothing to do with them being

Brian Atlasmen? What if it's just they happen to be elites or they happen to just have power? Well, why do you think that is? Why is there a disparity between Because there's hierarchies in societies and some people are going to rise to the top

Brian Atlasof a hierarchy. It's inevitable. Yeah. And mostly they're men. Why is that? Uh why? I mean there's a whole bunch of reasons. Evolutionary, biological, social, cultural. Exactly. Yeah. I mean I completely agree with all of that. Why

Jasmine (Jazz)do you think there's never been a matriarchy? Um I don't know. Has there You're saying there's always been a patriarchy? Uh patriarchy is inevitable.

Jasmine (Jazz)Uh but there have been societies where matriarchies exist, right? No, not in like Western. There's been matrineal societies, but there's not really a matriarchy. Well, I wonder if the patriarchy has only ever existed or the

Jasmine (Jazz)matriarchy hasn't because the patriarchy has always existed. Uh, you know what I mean? How do we deconstruct the patriarchy to then create a matriarchy? You should indeed. Well, exactly. But I think that we don't have a matriarchy because we simply always had a

Brian Atlaspatriarchy. Well, I mean, look, Andrew argues this way better than I do, so I'll give the super short version. So, I mean, it comes down to force force do force doctrine. You would agree that men

Brian Atlasare physically stronger than women? Okay. So, who are the who are the enforcers in society? Men or women? Typically, the enforcers. Enforcers. Men, right? And all the laws that we

Jasmine (Jazz)have, you know, if somebody commits a crime, who do you call? 911, right? And who's going to show up? Typically, police. And is he a man? Uh, I don't know the statistics on that. I feel like there's a lot of female

Brian Atlasofficers. Female cops, but it's mostly men. More more. Is it mostly men? It's probably pretty close, right? And then if you look at the military, it's predominantly men also. Yes. So force women pretty recently got the right to be active in the military, right? But I

Brian Atlasmean I think so we're not really socialized to go in that direction as much as men, right? But even if there was uh let me ask you a question. Let's say you had a prison, you were the warden of a prison and you could choose

Brian Atlasto hire and it's it's a male prison. You could choose to hire uh all male prison guards or all female prison guards. Which do you pick?

Jasmine (Jazz)Honestly, the women probably pay more attention to like the locks being locked and stuff like that. Just the logistic stance. But if we're planning on like an escape and we need strong men, if that's

Brian Atlasthe sit the particular situation, how do you keep how But okay, you know, the inmates, they go out of their cells. Oh, okay. Yeah. What? So, what happens if the inmates riot? You're saying we need

Brian Atlasmen instead. You need men. You need men because when it comes to force, you you need men who are able to uh exert force

Jasmine (Jazz)upon other people and upon other men. I get the physical instance, but why do you think that they should be at the top of I don't know like I'm not I'm not saying should. I'm just speaking

Brian Atlasdescriptively. Okay. I'm talking about I'm not saying this is how it should be. I'm just talking about like what is descriptively true. So it is descriptively true that women need to

Brian Atlasappeal to men as it relates to their rights. For example in Afghanistan uh when you know the US left for example

Brian Atlasthe Taliban came back to power and women lost their rights. So women or men give men or excuse me men give women their

Brian Atlasrights and as women you have to appeal to men for your rights. Okay. And I'm just speaking descriptively. I'm not saying that this this is how it should be, but that's just how it is. So, at

Brian Atlasany given moment, if men wanted to, they could take away and walk back women's rights. Okay. Awesome. So then you understand that that that that shows that they are in a hierarchy position

Jasmine (Jazz)above women and they are therefore the oppressors because at any moment they could withdraw those rights and it'd be more obviously oppressive but now it's more hidden behind oh you have the right

Brian Atlasto vote. I disagree. It would point it would point to the benevolence of men not to the oppressive nature of men. They're so kind. Yes. Absolutely. We're

Jasmine (Jazz)giving you that is what you're saying. Like men are like, "You should be happy with what we've given you." Is what you're saying. Well, I think women should be happy for all kinds of things men have given them through through men's. So, you agree that we only have

Brian Atlaswhat men allow us to have? No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying one, you should be thankful for the men who keep you safe while you sleep comfortably. Safe from who?

Brian AtlasFrom from the of invading foreign nation. You should be thankful for the soldiers. You should be thankful for rough men who keep you safe while you

Brian Atlassleep comfortably at night. Safe from who? Sure. I'll go ahead and say other men. What would that matter though? What would it actually matter? I'm just

Jasmine (Jazz)saying you're you're agreeing that women only have the rights that we have at the hands of men. Yes. They could roll it back at any time. They could if they wanted to. Yeah. I'm speaking descriptively. Yes. But you're also

Jasmine (Jazz)saying that that's not oppressive, that they don't have power. Like they haven't given us the power. But that's just that's just factually true. That's what I'm saying though, that men are the oppressors. Not that they It wouldn't make them oppressors

Jasmine (Jazz)necessarily. If we only have what we have at the hands of men, but that's that's an inevitability in your opinion. I think it's just the structure that we live under makes it

Savannah Stoneinevitable. I think we need to define the term oppressed because it's like I just don't I think I can't get behind that term in America. We're so like all

Brian Atlasof us are privileged here and I'll use that word for this circumstance. Look, ultimately I would say that this actually points towards men's benevolence and you rely on men to be

Brian Atlasthe protectors and providers of society. Everything that you see around you like the roads you drive on, the building you live in, I don't know if you have a nice apartment that you live in, most of the

Brian Atlasuh comforts of modernity are all due to men's genius in uh ingenuity. It all is due to men. You can you can and men have only ever had the opportunity to do so.

Brian AtlasWomen haven't always had the opportunity. If it wasn't for men, y'all would still be living in like grass huts and [ __ ] Why do you think that? What happened when all the men went to war in like World War I and World War II women

Brian Atlasin order to Yes, we were. It was the industrial revolution. Women went into the factory. Women don't have outside of home. Women don't have the requisite physical

Brian Atlasstrength for an industrial society. They just simply don't for it to have ever even been a possibility. What about ingenuity? like thought like

Brian Atlascreating some sort of mechanism that can lift the thing that women can't lift the necessary. So like if we're going do we not have the brain power either if we're starting all the way from agriculture

Brian Atlasand then moving into industrialization and moving into the technology era. There there needed to be the physical strength of men as the foundation and

Brian Atlasbedrock for all the sort of the the G sorry they're [ __ ] talking back guys. Be quiet please back there. There needed to be that

Brian Atlasfoundation of physical strength that even enabled the comforts that we currently enjoy and that we take for granted. Do you realize 200 years ago, just 200 years ago, so that's like a

Brian Atlascouple generations back, right? There wasn't electricity. There wasn't running water. There wasn't you showers. The things we take so for

Jasmine (Jazz)granted. You You don't even think about these things. But you think women wouldn't have invented these things if they were put in positions that men were put into if there were a matriarchy. I'm

Brian Atlassaying the through the chronological order of invention, none of this would have been possible without the just brute physical strength of men. It's just wouldn't have been possible.

Brian AtlasI think with the inventive and creative nature of women, it could have been possible. I mean, say, right? Like, so you're saying, okay, if women had bulldozers, then they could use the

Brian Atlasstrength of machinery to do these jobs for them. Women would have gotten it done. I don't know where you get this concept that it just there's like a I'm trying to think of the specific word here. There's there's a bottleneck.

Brian AtlasThere's a historical bottleneck that that women just based on their physical strength would not have been able to pass through uh if it wasn't for male

Brian Atlasstrength. So there's a bottleneck that exists. like I don't the the industrial revolution in order to build the the

Brian Atlasmachinery that would have even enabled women to do some of these tasks that wouldn't have been possible without the requisite strength of men. I

Jasmine (Jazz)think it would have taken maybe more women and other mechanisms to do so but it would have gotten done. I think it's like blasphemous really to say that we wouldn't be as advanced as we are without the brute strength of men. Well,

Brian Atlasit's not just the brute strength of men. It's also the genius. Well, it's that, but it's also the genius and the ingenuity of men. And you think women lack that? No, I actually think they lack if you look at the I think if you

Brian Atlaslook at the average IQ of women, it's actually uh women uh there's more women who have a I suppose a higher IQ. Well, let me frame this correctly. It's called

Brian Atlasthe uh greater variability hypothesis. So essentially what you have is there's more women who have a higher average IQ than the average man. But if you look at

Brian Atlasthe extremes, so you have a bunch of really stupid men, but then you have a greater proportion of very highly intelligent, high IQ men who are geniuses. And there are women geniuses,

Jasmine (Jazz)too. But because of the greater male variability, you're going to have more male geniuses. and more men who have Do you think being a genius is uh genetically predetermined and tied to

Jasmine (Jazz)gender? Or do you think maybe men have that outlier of being extremely smart and inventive because they've had ample opportunity and time to do so because they're not taking care of a kid at

Brian Atlashome? Oh, I would agree that there's uh nature and nurture and I'm not women absolutely can be geniuses. What I'm saying is, and I don't know if it's just like uh this is just how you know the

Brian Atlasdistribution when it comes to biology, evolution, whatever. Again, you got a bunch of stupid [ __ ] men. There's way more stupid men than there are like really stupid women, but there's also a

Brian Atlasbunch of really really genius like high high. And you think that's because of nature mainly? I think it's both. I think it's nature and nurture. I think it that disparity and like outlier only

Brian Atlasexists because of I got to move it on though. I gotta move it on. Uh oh. Can we have you guys rejoin the table please? Oh, sorry. I'm rejoin the table please. I got a

Brian Atlasquestion for the entire panel. Of course. Of course, guys. We are I do see some of the chats that have come through. Lulu, I'm going to pull this up. $69 TTS. Can you pull that up? Yes,

Erica Perrywe have. We still have uh we got about 5,500 viewers. All right, viewers. What's up? Okay, just sit down, please. Oh, sorry. Lulu donated $200. I'm so sorry, Brian. I I'm I'm a good

SPEAKER_05candidate, but I'm just I'm getting a little dulvoided women. Men don't care. I'm getting a little duly. This is a long stream for you.

Brian AtlasUnmarried incoming. Uh yo, Lulu, thank you very much for that. Appreciate it. I'm going to let two 69s come in. Finish up, then we'll get we'll get out of here. Love you, L. We have the Tik Toks, but [ __ ] Thank

Brian Atlasyou for the $200. You should Venmo me. Send me that [ __ ] baby. All right. Oh, Clay, I think you triggered the spam

Brian Atlasthing. So 696969. Sorry, Clay. You triggered the spam blocker. Uh, thank you for the message, though. Appreciate it, brother. Wait, hold on. Did this one not come through? I'm shaking a little. Oh, I didn't change it. Can you read this one from toast? Sorry. I need to

Jasmine (Jazz)change this. Oh, is this mine? That's mine. Yeah. Jazz, can you read this one? Oh, sure. Bri Oh, here. I'll replay it. Brian, be careful with giving phones back when away. Might have a wire tap

Jasmine (Jazz)and problem. Chair two was on the phone with someone. Also, chair five, you're right. Men don't provide protect women till married. Don't know them. What? Why are you scared about me being on the phone? Snitch, too. Snitch. We're on

Brian Atlaslive stream, baby. What the [ __ ] am I snitching on? Uh, going around the table on this. A woman's past should not matter. Do you agree? You agree with that? Me? Yeah. Go ahead. It clearly matters.

Lauren SelbyI'm going around the table. Yeah. It clearly [ __ ] matters. Okay. A woman's passion doesn't matter. A woman's past should should not matter. Do you agree? It does, but if you don't tell them they don't, then it doesn't matter. Facts.

Erica PerryPeriod. So, you would lie about your body count, basically. Yeah. Um, yes. Who here has lied about their body count to a guy? Yep. I just You just don't I don't ask and I don't know. Should body count matter? They eventually find out

Erica Perrybecause I tell them I tell them when I'm really [ __ ] up. If I'm on like a good drug, I'll tell them what the Okay. Uh, what's your body count? Oh god. What's your body count? No. What? Start

Jasmine (Jazz)here. Oh, 468. Okay. Uh, Jazz, what about you? I won't be answering that. My parents are watching. That's fine. Do you want to give a shout out? It's a very It's a

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