FERAL INSANE DEGEN PANEL?! Goth MlLF?! Lazy Eye Dating?! College Girls! E-GIRLS?! | Dating Talk 280

Date: 2026-02-02

Duration: 9h 07m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlex (Comedian)>

CCharlotte Gates >

LLevvenia Roberts >

BBrooklyn (DT277)>

OOlivia (DT277)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Brooklyn(guest)

SPEAKER_03Briana(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kitty(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Charlotte Gates(guest)

SPEAKER_09Olivia(guest)

SPEAKER_11Alex (comedian)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Levvenia Roberts(guest)

SPEAKER_13Faith(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

ControversyChivalry and women are the table debate

Key MomentBrooklyn's body count list read aloud: 21 partners

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All guests introduce themselves.

BDSM and Findom

Kitty and Charlotte discuss.

Chivalry Debate

'Women are the table' debate.

Body Count Round

Brooklyn's list read aloud (21 partners).

Trivia Round

General knowledge quiz.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> No, but uh like his Sorry. Sorry. like his sister, you know. I'm not saying you look like a man. >> Oh man. >> You look like the female. Like you could be the sister. >> Say for me. >> No, I'm not saying you look like a man. I'm just saying you look like And by the

Brian Atlasway, he's a handsome guy. Okay, Brooklyn. Brooklyn, stay with me. >> He's a handsome guy. >> You missed it. Mine looked like my brother. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Sorry. It's the autism dude. I'm sorry.

Brian Atlas>> You're so nice, Brian. You're so kind. >> Tell you tell like me the most. He said if you wouldn't be an only fans girl, I wouldn't have sex with you. [gasps] >> He's revoking a statement. >> I'll give you one I'll give you one [ __ ] Okay. One [ __ ] You can just

Brian Atlaskidding. [laughter] >> You're so cute. I'm a I'm a gentleman. >> That's going to make her feel so much better. >> I know. That's definitely going to resolve. >> You're so kind.

Brian Atlas>> Sorry. Is it the I feel like my jokes are not landing very well tonight. My jokes are >> all hating right now. >> All hating me. >> I don't know. I think Brooklyn is kind of in love with me to be honest.

Levvenia Roberts>> Secretly. >> Secretly. I don't know.

SPEAKER_10[laughter]

Brooklyn>> Oh [sighs and gasps] god. >> Have other girls cried on the pod? [music] >> What? >> Have other girls cried on the pod? >> Uh I I never want

Brian Atlas>> I think you made a girl cry. never seek out the the cry. I never tried, but it has happened. >> Okay, good. Not the >> Was it your fault? >> Um,

Brian AtlasI take full responsibility. I'm not proud of it. I'm not proud of it, >> but that [ __ ] was my fault. Probably. >> Did you apologize? >> No, that's not true. Sometimes a woman is can be emotional.

Brooklyn>> Yeah, especially when it's that time of the month. >> Is there something you want to tell us, Brooklyn? I could just cry really easily. I worked at Petco once and my boss was like, "Here, sit over here." And I cried. >> You sit over here.

Faith>> Yeah. She's like, "Go sit over there." And I like cried cuz her tone scared me. >> I think I just cry easily. >> Some people can be a bit sensitive and that's okay. >> You have a big heart. >> You have a big heart and a bigger >> Well, sometimes people cry for real reasons. >> I don't know how to finish that

Brian Atlassentence. >> Bigger. [laughter] >> I was about to say that, too. >> Some people do cry for real reasons. >> Okay. All right. Let's see here. Um,

Oliviawhere were we? Oh, the the freaking things next. >> Okay. Would you date that? >> It doesn't even look like me. >> It looks like that's not a picture of me. >> The AI.

Olivia>> Okay. Next. >> Whoa. Okay. Wow. >> Definitely gay. [laughter] >> I mean, >> hard smash. >> Would you would you date him? >> Really friendly. >> Hard smash. >> Looks like they just cut my hair and

Oliviagave me a beard. But valid. He looks like he gives good [laughter] hugs. >> That's not a compliment. >> He looks like you shouldn't leave him around children or pets. [laughter] >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Wait, can we see it again? I love a ginger boy. >> Next. >> I think the hand. >> Oh, >> is there me? Is there one for me? I don't know. >> Oh, wait. I got Okay, I'll pay our good

Brian Atlasfriend here another compliment. You rated your body a five. Uh, I think your body is more than five. >> Thanks. [snorts] Brooklyn. >> Brooklyn.

Brian Atlas>> You're so nice. You're getting so cute. >> It is. You know, look, I I don't know. I >> Are you getting soft on us? >> I know. I feel Look, she's crying. I feel like I got to, you know, >> see, this is how women manipulate you.

Brian AtlasThis is how women [laughter] manipulate you. They start crying. Oh, >> wait. Let me start crying. >> Brooklyn's body is literally a >> Okay, now this one. Go for it. >> This one. >> I see through your games, but Brooklyn

Brian Atlasgot me. She [ __ ] got me. I see right through it. Um, >> are you who are you looking at? Are you looking at Brooklyn or are you looking at me? Who you looking at? >> Eyeballing her and looking at you.

Brian Atlas>> That's crazy. You're mad dogging two people at the same time. [laughter] >> That's a skill. >> Are you f You got beef with my [ __ ] girl Brooklyn over here. What are you [ __ ] doing >> now? I got beef with you. >> Sus. [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> Uh, let's see here. Okay, we're going to blast through some pre-show notes here. We have uh Okay, Char. Yeah, Charlotte. But char

Charlotte Gates>> you describe yourself as a certified super soaker. >> A [ __ ] [laughter] >> [ __ ] me. Um, yeah. >> Okay. >> Cool. >> Yeah. >> Let them know. Let them know. >> 10.

Charlotte Gates>> Let us know. >> So, do you want like a a little example? >> Squirt on the table. >> You're going to have to pay for carpet cleaning. No, I meant like a little story like story time. [laughter] I didn't mean like a actual physical rep.

Brian Atlas>> I mean >> I mean if y'all want to see that, go to my Twitter. >> You act like you haven't. >> Wait, are Sorry. Are you looking at me? It's >> Oh, [ __ ] >> I'm sorry. >> Yes, I >> I don't know if you're actually asking

Brian Atlasme sometimes. It's crazy. [laughter] >> Can we get her a eye patch, please? >> I told you I needed to bring the eye patch out. >> You should have brought the pirate with the skull on it. I don't know. I think the eye patch is kind of hot. Like it's a good look.

Brian Atlas>> I've heard that a lot actually. >> Like I feel like if I had an eye patch, I would crush it with the women. >> Mysterious. >> Like I feel like they'd be like, "Oh, is he a pirate or what happened?" Anyways, whatever. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Uh let's see. We'll skip the Super Soaker story, but >> cool. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Uh you said your last boyfriend was a serial narcissist, catfish liar. >> He claimed to be a cuckled, but he got

Charlotte Gatessuper jealous. Yeah. >> You get near a man, anytime you would get near a man that was white. >> Yeah. >> Was he black? >> No, he's white. >> So, like his kink like as a cuckold was

Charlotte Gateslike he was obsessed with watching me [ __ ] black men. >> Oh my god. >> And he I even at one point may or may not have had a video of him sucking a black man's dick. >> I don't have anymore.

Charlotte Gates>> [ __ ] >> Yeah. No, seriously. I don't have anymore. But that's he's the whole reason I got into content. I wasn't planning on doing it. It just at first it was like me and him and then he kind of slowly

Charlotte Gates>> Yeah. >> Huh. >> Yeah. Huh. >> So he sucked more than one black penis. >> From what other people have told me as well in his high school life? Yes.

Charlotte Gates>> Oh man. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um catfish too. What do you mean catfish?

Charlotte Gates>> So he pretends So my first year at AVN, it's Adult Video Network. I met like this porn star that I've big fan of for many years. Anyways, I get like an email

Charlotte Gatesfrom her a couple months later. Um, took me about a year to actually get solid proof that it was my ex-boyfriend at the time pretending to be a whole like porn star trying to be my friend. Like was

Charlotte Gatesactually texting me every day for about a year. Um, and I just I had like thoughts that it was him because some of the [ __ ] he said I was like that had to be. But like he was >> pretty good at hiding [ __ ] and worked at

Charlotte GatesVerizon so he had was a manager so he had um ways to check change his number and do a bunch of crazy [ __ ] >> Wow. >> Yeah, >> that is [ __ ] up.

Brian Atlas>> Uhhuh. >> You said he was also 56 and bold. >> Yep. >> And then so you write it makes sense. This is what you wrote. Makes sense why he would be jealous of other white women. >> Yeah.

Charlotte Gates>> Okay. >> And like it's funny because like >> his all his friends are bald too. So like it makes sense. They all hopped on

Brian Atlasthe wave after he went bald. So >> I see. I see. Uh okay. Faith. [laughter] >> Faith. >> Faith. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> I'm here. Uh, you said in your notes, "The one person prior to my marriage, the mother of my

Brian AtlasThe mother of my ex." Oh, the mother of your ex broke up with you for him. >> Mhm. >> So, you were dating a guy and his instead of him breaking up with you, the

Brian Atlasmom broke up with you >> for his for her son. >> That's correct. >> How old was this? How old were you? Um

Brian Atlasmaybe like 16 or 17. He was a year older. >> Okay. So Okay. Still weird, but it's like And you you were both 16. >> No, he's a year older. He was a year

Brian Atlasolder. >> You were 16. He was 17. >> Yeah. Or 17 and 18. Something like that. >> So he's like, you're both living at home. You're both in high school. If it was a 25-year-old, that would be

Brian Atlasreally peculiar. Still kind of peculiar, like even at that age, but it makes a bit more sense. Uh, you said it would be really interesting if the opportunity allowed for the table to be turned and

Brian AtlasBrian to be asked questions and the chance to get to know more about him and his experiences. Maybe we did that a little bit, but I'm down to do more if you had things that you

Faithwanted to. Uh yeah, you we did a a bit. Um are are you dating somebody?

Faith>> I do not uh reveal my uh dating situation, but um >> the other thing I was curious about, how

Faithdid you get into this podcast? What what inspired you? >> Uh what I mean, I have strong opinions about dating, so

Brian Atlasyeah. And I I'd been doing YouTube before this and I thought, "Oh, this would be like fun and interesting and I think people would be interested in it and I think it'd be successful." So, uh, yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Did you have experience with social media prior to this? >> Yeah. Well, I mean, I the podcast I started in 2020, mid 2022, but I've been doing YouTube since 2012. So, I did like

Brian Atlascompletely different content though. I wasn't podcasting. I was doing these like kind of prank social experiment videos back in 2012 and >> yeah. >> Dang. I was 12 years old.

Brian Atlas>> So I'm an OG. I'm an OG. I've been doing this [ __ ] for a minute. >> Can I wear the hat? >> No. >> Why? >> Uh here. Hit a bow and I'll think about it. >> Really hit the bow.

Brian Atlas>> I just said it. >> Okay. Okay. >> That was so dog [ __ ] >> No, it wasn't. >> Here. You know what? That was such a [ __ ] bad bow. >> No, it wasn't. I should have done the same thing.

Brian Atlas>> That was so [ __ ] disrespectful what you just did. I want you wear this and stand in the corner and think about what you've done. >> Think about what you just did. Stand in the corner. >> She's obedient.

Brian Atlas>> And then spin spin the spin that thing. Spin it. Spin it. No, don't look at me. Look in the corner. >> That was not bad.

Brian AtlasUh, how the t turnts have >> I just the dammy mommy just got >> domied. >> Doied. >> That was easy. >> No. >> Why?

Brian Atlas>> Hey, maybe she's the switch. >> She's the switch. She's the [ __ ] switch. [laughter and gasps] >> All right. Do you see that obedience? >> I was about to say >> back. Turn back. Turn now. Okay, now she's being bratty

Brian Atlasbecause [laughter] I just called it out. Turn back into the corner. Look into the corner. Good. All right. Think about what you did. In fact, wait. No. I won't put you in the corner, Brooklyn.

Brian Atlas>> Really? Really? >> She now she wants me to put her in the corner. >> Brooklyn, go in the corner and think about Okay. All right. Uh, was there anything else? >> Like, you need to go in the corner.

Brian Atlas>> Hey, I was a gentleman >> and thank you for feeding us. I appreciate that. >> You're welcome. There's cookies back there. You guys had who had a cookie? They're good, right? They were good. >> Really good. >> Two a lot of cookies. So, I'll have to

Charlotte Gatessave it for the next people. Anything else? Faith question for Brian. >> Name three countries. >> We'll get [laughter] to that. >> Does it vote? >> Oh my god. >> You still haven't answered that. You didn't test it out yet.

Brian Atlas>> Where? >> Isn't there a back? >> Hey, get the Okay, sit back down. [laughter] Sit down, [ __ ] She's like, "Yo, I didn't even >> with my vision. I should have seen

Brian Atlasthat." >> I didn't. So, [laughter] that kind of >> Look, everybody deserves a Never mind. >> A spanking. >> No. >> Do you want us to line up for you? >> We will.

Brian Atlas>> And what? >> Spank train. >> Wait, what? Where the [ __ ] did that come from? Um, >> okay. Brooklyn, let's see here. Brooklyn, your notes. Uh, you've dated men both

Brian AtlasSorry. >> What was that? >> It's It's mine. >> Okay. Uh, you've dated men both before and after starting OAF. The biggest difference wasn't how men treated me. It was how honest they were upfront. Some

Brian Atlasmen who publicly criticize OAF were privately the most curious or interested, which completely changed how I view the sincerity of that criticism. >> You know, like a lot of hate comments that I received, they also follow me. So, it's like they want to keep

Brooklynwatching. >> Oh, yeah. you know, stuff like that. Or like >> sometimes they say they don't like it, but then they actually are really fascinated by it. [snorts]

Brian Atlas>> Well, I've I've seen that uh I've seen these guys. I mean, like the reality is like you probably even on your Only Fans, you might even get men who message you hate comments on your Only Fans and they're like sub to you and sending you

Brian Atlasmoney. >> So, I do definitely think that that's a phenomenon. So I I mean of course these guys are um I think a lot of guys uh I mean you're

Brian Atlasexactly what you wrote. They publicly criticize OF but yeah privately like of course the guys are like oh she's an attractive woman I want to [ __ ] her like so yeah

Brian Atlas>> like a look >> with the hate that a lot of these women get uh one it's probably fair to say that

Brian Atlasrealistically speaking a lot of these girls wouldn't wouldn't even like give a a guy a glance like that they wouldn't even look in in his direction. But uh

Brian Atlasthey definitely like if they had a chance with the girl, they'd definitely be about it. >> I think most men >> I don't think a lot of people who claim to be principled on that issue would uh

Alex (comedian)>> yeah, I got people sending me I'm watching Nick Fuentes in the Only Fans DMs. I'm like, oh, >> it seems like >> interesting. That seems like the female version, I

Oliviamean the male version of the even the tweet that that we saw in the Nick video, whereas I feel like people will women will mock men for like asking them

Oliviaout and men will mock women for doing like only fans or whatever. But there's kind of this general need to feel superior. um that even if it's out of touch with

Oliviareality, even if that's not how they truly like legitimately feel, um they'll make those comments because they just makes them feel better about themselves to hate on potentials of the other gender.

Charlotte Gates>> This is definitely a reflection of how they feel about themselves for sure. And it helps them feel better. And a lot of people like actually sit online all day and just hate because they hate themselves so much.

Brian Atlas>> Oh yeah. >> Word word. Uh, okay. We have uh what else from Brooklyn? You wanted to discuss whether men actually want traditional women or if they just want

Brian Atlasthe authority that comes with tradition without providing the stability that traditionally came with it. Uh, further thoughts on that, Brooklyn? >> Um, sorry, I forgot I wrote this. Um, >> was it your manager, Brooklyn?

Brian Atlas>> No, I don't do anything. >> Was it your manager who wrote that? >> Um, >> wait, could you say it again? [snorts] Uh, yes.

Brian AtlasOr we can skip. Uh, we could skip. >> You disagree with the idea that Only Fans models are inherently damaged, misled, or make irrational life choices. >> Yeah. >> You think the viewpoint removes agency

Brian Atlasfrom women and assumes they're incapable of making strategic decisions about their bodies, finances, and long-term goals. >> Mhm. You want you're open to debating whether it's right for everyone, but you reject the idea that it's automatically

Brian Atlasimmoral, desperate, or incompat incompatible with healthy relationships. >> Mhm. >> So, I think you could be doing like I don't think you >> like I think you can do Only Fans and

Brooklynnot do it because you're desperate. And like I think you can also have a good relationship while doing it as well. Um I know people in relationships who do Only Fans. Um a lot of them are married

Brian Atlasas well. Sure. >> Um, so I definitely don't think it's always that. Um, >> by the way, guys, we're Oh, I think did did we get a raid? Yo, chat, did we get a raid? I might have missed it. Maybe.

Brian AtlasI'm assuming Andrew maybe raided us. It might have been like 30 minutes ago or something. >> What's a raid? >> Uh, like a YouTube raid. Uh, guys, we're

Brian Atlasdropping the TTS to $69 for the rest of the show. $69. if you want to get a TTS in. That's streamlabs.com/ whatever. Uh,

Brian Atlasthank you, Andrew, for the raid. I'm sure I I must have missed it. My bad. But, uh, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, hold on. Let me get that all set up. But >> while you set that up, I was wondering

Oliviaif you agree with her thing. I think that in terms of moral culpability

Oliviafor individuals performing sex work, you have to take into consideration um

OliviaI don't know. I think that for a lot of people the feminism movement pushed a stuff as empowerment that

Oliviawasn't empowerment. I think that a lot of women have been deceived into

Oliviabelieving that um some things are no big deal. Like intimacy is no big deal. Um for me personally, it's incredibly important cuz once again, it's it's the closest thing that you can do with

Oliviaanother person. It's literally it's two becoming one. Um I know that not everyone feels that way. I know that some people um some people

Oliviacan kind of push that off to the back of their mind, but I I don't hold I don't think that doing Only Fans necessarily equates to a moral wrong for the

Oliviaindividual performing. Um I do think that Only Fans in general is a negative as I do believe most sex work is a it has a negative impact on society because I think it degrades human connections. I

Oliviabelieve that there are probably some happy marriages. I believe that there are probably more people that that end up being harmed by the production of of

Oliviapornograph porn. So, it's it's a it's a double-edged sword. I think that um a lot of people basically just think that it means that you're a [ __ ] person, and I don't believe that. I think there's a lot of

Oliviagood people. I think that some people do it because they need to. I think some people do it because they want to. I think some people recognize the hurt and try not to think about it and because a lot of people can't admit that they're wrong.

Olivia>> Um especially as they get older because they were so staunchly advocating for something that it's it's doubly embarrassed. It's

Olivialiterally easier to keep going than it is to backtrack. Um, but I think that I think that being able to admit that you're wrong is is one of the coolest

Oliviathings that you can do. So, I once again, you seem like a lovely person and you're gorgeous and like I have I have

Oliviaabsolutely no judgment on your value or your um

Oliviaor your moral whatever um based on on your career. But I do think that you are likely incurring damage from your career and I do think that it might

Olivianot be relevant to you now but I do believe that it will be relevant to you in the future and my heart breaks for that like genuinely >> as sorry

Briana>> go ahead. as somebody that personally would most likely get downed by family

Brianaand honestly most friends for possibly being in that industry. Um, I'd like to know if everyone's comfortable sharing

Brianatheir relationships with family and friends since they've started Only Fans. >> Well, I still got a great relationship with my parents. >> Wait, are you not in in >> She doesn't do and none of it. Nothing close.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, okay. >> No, >> sorry. I thought you did. >> So, has the sex work had an impact on your relationship with your parents? >> Mom or dad? >> Nope. >> Okay. What about you? >> No, they say as long as

Kitty>> Do they know? >> Yeah, they say like as long as it's like consensual and I'm not hitting my boundaries and they're like, we don't I don't know how I don't know how they say this said it actually, but they

Briana>> So, your dad and your mom know? I think my parents have benefited more than lack of. >> Yeah. >> How about when first finding out >> or like was it something that you told them before they could find out or something?

Alex (comedian)>> Yeah, I told them. I was like, this is this is what it is. D and then it's kind of like, oh, well, you make this much money. And then it's kind of like, uh, all right, well, let me help you now that I'm making this amount of money

Alex (comedian)since you've helped me in the past and I've given my parents loans. I've paid off their cars. I've given them this, this, and that. This was the first year I've ever got to actually buy anyone a

Alex (comedian)Christmas gift. Um, I grew up in a trailer park with zero money. So, I think that's a huge difference between,

Alex (comedian)you know, silver platter plate and someone who's all right, well, now here's your silver platter plate. What are you going to do with it? And I was like, well, well, I could do a bunch of stuff with it. And it's just like then you can give back. And so morally

Alex (comedian)speaking, you could say, "Yeah, it's dirt money. You could you can call it blood money. You can call it this, this, and that." But I mean, at the end of the day, if I'm not hurting anyone. >> Yeah. My parents support me as well. Um,

Levvenia Robertsthey'll actually make TikToks with me, which is fun. Um, my dad did not support me at first. He was obviously very upset, which is so understandable. Um, [snorts] I didn't get to tell him.

Levvenia RobertsSomebody I have a theory who from my high school sent him pictures of me. >> So that was lovely. >> Yeah. My parents. >> What about you?

Charlotte Gates>> Um yeah, >> sorry. Um my mom like I talk like she supports me. I would say like she does know every single thing I do. I do let her know. She doesn't necessarily

Charlotte Gatessupport the lifestyle but she says as long as like basically as I'm happy as I want to do it. I mean she supports me. I don't talk to my dad. So that's Yeah. >> Is it related to the sex work or other reasons? >> Other reasons. Yeah. >> Uh Brooklyn.

Brooklyn>> So I was in college when I started. It was my senior year and I hid it from my family and I was still working my minimum wage job trying to hide it. >> But a tax statement came in and my parents found out through that way >> and they were really upset at first.

KittyThey were threatening to kick me out and everything. Um but now I feel like I'm closer than I've ever been with them >> and I can help my family and my grandma with dementia. I think my family nags me cuz they're like, "Are you getting stalked? Are you

Kittygetting stalked? Make sure make sure you look behind you." They like don't want me walking out. >> That's like the worst part cuz I rather people hurt me, not my family. Like >> Well, they they just want to like make Yeah. They care about my safety. They're like, "Make sure you're not getting

Brian Atlasstalked. Don't post." >> Do you think it would be wrong for a father to disown his daughter for being a sex worker?

Brian AtlasI think it would be wrong. >> You think that's wrong? >> You should love your You should love your child no matter what. >> Yeah. Well, maybe if they came of mass shooter then probably. >> But like, so let's say you're the parent and you could be the mom, you could be

Brian Atlasthe father, whatever. You're the parent and this is so against what you want for your child, so against just your own values and what you believe in, and

Brian Atlasyou've attempted to guide them in a different direction. Maybe you've even offered it. Okay, they started for money reasons. You tell them, "No, it's not worth it. Even if you're going to buy me a car, you're

Brian Atlasgoing to buy me all these things. It's not worth it for me as your father for you to do this. Even if I have to be in a financially, [snorts] uh, bad position myself, uh, I'd rather

Brian Atlasbe in a financially bad position than for you to do this. I'd rather help help you financially if I have the means to do it." Um, so I I I don't know. I guess

Brian Atlasthe question is um I don't know where I was going with that. Actually, I lost my train. >> Your parent being your child being >> Yeah. Like you're you're disowning the

Brian AtlasOh, no. Yeah. Where I was going was was >> if you want to correct it. So basically, you're the you're the parent and you're

Brian Atlaslike, I do not want them doing this. Ultim if you ultimately accept it, she's gone. She's going to continue down

Brian Atlasthat path. >> So I think you should attempt to exhaust all other options until you arrive at Done. So it's like, okay, why are you doing this? Is it for financial reasons? Do you have a drug? Like I'm not saying

Brian Atlasonly fans girls do it for drug problems, but it's like, okay, do you really need to do it for money? Do you want to come back, live at home? Can we financially support you? Are what are we doing? Are we not enough? Oh, you

Brian Atlaswant to buy a designer bag? That's why you want to be a hoe. You want you want to you want a bag. I'm not going to buy you a bag, but that's a dumb [ __ ]

Brian Atlasreason to go do so that you could buy a bag or a [ __ ] fancy car because you're trading something. You're trading

Brian Atlassomething. And so I think you don't immediately disown, [clears throat] but that should be reserved as an option.

Brian Atlas>> Like maybe that might work. >> That's a very conditional way to love. But it's like what other option do I have if this is so contradictory to my

Brian Atlasvalue set and what I want for my daughter who I love and care about. If it mean like I think >> and it comes down to how how you love.

Brian AtlasThat's that's conditional love. >> I I think that I think shame is a powerful thing. I think the ability to

Brian Atlas[sighs] like like it's there there's a a component of a social fabric here where if we don't enforce a degree

Brian Atlasof social shame or stigma on these things then it's just it's it's free game fair game for everybody. >> You cannot like what they do without disowning them. like you can

Brian Atlas>> what mechanism as a parent do I have to attempt to prevent my daughter from doing something that I think so what I'm doing here is I'm thinking how can I

Brian Atlasprotect my daughter how can I prevent her from what I view as making a catastrophic mistake how can I stop that and there really is very little you know

Brian Atlaswhen she's an adult I can do uh obviously when you're an adult you're your own individual you can move way. I have really no I personally think parents should have influence in their

Brian Atlaschildren's lives honestly throughout their life. Parents should be a guiding force and there should be a level of influence and I think ch uh children even when they're adults should show a

Brian Atlasdegree of respect uh to their parents. But I think that um I can't think of a a

Brian Atlasreason beyond the the other steps I mentioned to I think I'm not doing this from a selfish perspective. I'm doing it

Brian Atlasfrom I think this is a mistake for my daughter to do. I'd want her to protect her. >> That's still conditional. >> Well, I Well, yeah, but okay. How do what leverage do I have as the father absence

Brian Atlaslike >> I mean you can >> is it really worth it for you? Is it worth it for you my daughter to destroy the destroy >> destroy the relationship with the family

Brian Atlasso you can [ __ ] make some money? Is that worth it to you? If I give you the ultimatum, is it worth it? >> The ultimatum is >> and I hope the answer is no.

Brian Atlas>> The ultimatum of like this is my last straw like of my life. Why are you doing Only Fans? If it's for money, come back and live at home. We're going to take care of your basic necessities and we're

Brian Atlasgonna maybe we can get help you get a job. Uh maybe we can be proactive about helping you. But you you don't you don't need like man, why are you guys chasing this

Brian Atlasmaterialism? What are you going to buy a [ __ ] Lamborghini? Congratulations. But it's like look, I'm I'm speaking on the perspective of if and or when I have a daughter, the steps that I would take.

Brian AtlasSo it's not an immediate well hopefully she comes to me and she says, "Dad, I'm thinking about this." Well, hopefully actually it's never even a conversation because, you know, either I've raised her, right? Look, but also I I I think

Brian Atlasit can be the case that you can do everything correct as a parent and people are the individuals. People have agency. They can end up making decision. You could be a great parent and your kid could still [ __ ] up.

Brian Atlas>> Your kid, your kid could still end up on drugs. Your kid could still end up, you know, doing whatever, whatever, whatever. >> Um, end up a criminal, doing sex work, whatever it is. >> And so, I think she ideally she comes to

Brian Atlasme before she even thinks about starting. And then it's a it's a persuasion. You shouldn't do it because all these reasons. >> But what if you can't persuade her? Is that when you say you would just then

Brian Atlasit's like no then it goes to okay you're doing you want you've made your decision you're going to do it uh now I'm not just telling you the bad reasons you want to do it for financial reasons okay

Brooklyncome back and live at home and your your basic needs will be taken care of >> if you can't do like my situation was different so I got leaked like hacked and leaked and I was getting blackmailed

Brian Atlasand doxed and what would your opinion be on that if that happened to your daughter >> so first off that's a terrible It's a crime. Whoever's doing that should be prosecuted to the fullest to the fullest

Brian Atlasextent of the the law. I'm not sure in some states they're lagging behind on the revenge porn thing. Yeah. >> But um >> that's 100% wrong. I don't know if the

Brian Atlasright move if you've been a victim of uh revenge porn or somebody leaking your nudes is to just like, well, okay, I

Brian Atlasguess I'm going to just start doing sex work now. I don't know if uh and then I I question the

Brian Atlasthe legitimacy of that a little bit, I want to say, but I don't know. Um it sounds a bit like cope. >> I'm not think I'm lying. I No, no, I'm not saying you're lying that that

Brian Atlashappened. I'll take your word for it, but it seems a bit like cope. It seems like a justification like, okay, this happened. >> Well, I guess I can make a [ __ ] ton of money on Only Fans now. I mean,

Brian Atlas>> coping is terrible that that happened. That's [ __ ] up. People shouldn't be doing that. People should absolutely not. That's [ __ ] disgusting. um uh the the idea that look, even if a girl did you dirty, you don't there's c

Brian Atlascertain lines you don't cross, right? You know, look, also if someone [ __ ] you over, the the best revenge is just moving on with your life and just having

Brian Atlasuh you know, improving yourself and uh just [ __ ] never talking to them again. But >> uh [sighs and gasps] I mean, >> yeah, probably not a good idea to commit a crime.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. So, I mean, >> okay. Well, sometimes it just like happens. >> No. So, I mean, it's terrible that that happens, but I I don't know if like in

Brian Atlasall instances of a woman being victim of revenge porn or leaked nudes. I don't think the pathway is like, well, I guess I got to become a sex worker. I

Brian Atlasmean, again, it's a bad thing that that happened, but um yeah. So, but I think for me it would be,

Brian Atlasokay, if my daughter told me that, I'm like, the [ __ ] did you just tell me? Okay, you're at [ __ ] college. You're moving [ __ ] back home. You're back under my authority. We're going to take

Brian Atlascare of you and it's going to be good. We're going to watch we're going to [ __ ] watch movies, you know? We're going to watch some Netflix and [ __ ] and you're going to be under my back under my authority. >> You don't have kids, do you? By the way,

Brian AtlasI've I'm homeschooling my kids. [ __ ] college. >> Nah. By the way, probably by the time I have kids that are college age, who knows what society even looks like. It's probably going to be [ __ ] AI. Who's going to have [ __ ] job? Who knows? But anyways, that's another

Levvenia Robertsconversation. >> Brian, I fear if your if your daughter is thinking about starting Only Fans, she's not going to listen to you when you tell her to come home and to live with you. Speaking from experience, if your daughter is the type of person to

Brian Atlasstart in Only Fans, she's going to do the exact opposite of everything you say. >> Perhaps perhaps it it could be the case. Obviously, uh I can't force her to do

Brian Atlasanything, but I think with a guiding hand, I return her to a state of safety under my >> authority,

Brian Atlas>> in my household, in my under my authority. And but then yes, eventually if it gets to a point if she's like, "No, no, no." I'm like, "Look, if you if you bite the bullet on this, we're

Brian Atlastelling you, me and your mom, we're [ __ ] telling you if you start this [ __ ] goodbye." >> My uh >> I think you got to do it. I think you got to do it, you know, and maybe at

Brian Atlassome point you can reconcile the relationship if she stops Only Fans eventually. >> It took my dad a couple months um for him to come around. He looked very upset at first, but do you want to know why he came around? >> Cuz you were paying for [ __ ] You were

Levvenia Roberts>> No. No. Of course not. I actually a [ __ ] ton of money. >> I'll buy my parents dinner, but I I don't cover them. >> Cuz you were happy. >> No. >> Okay. Why did he come around? >> His best friend

Levvenia Roberts>> lost her son who was the same age as me due to drugs. >> And I then found the story from his best friend. And she told me, she was like, "You know, I didn't know this happened.

Levvenia RobertsHe kind of just like started talking to me again." And I felt like he accepted me cuz he did. And she told me that he was complaining about me or something to her. And she looked at him and she said,

Levvenia Roberts"At least your kid's alive." And then when I confronted my dad about it after, he told me he was like, "Yeah, I don't agree with what you do, but at the end of the day, at least you're alive, and I'd rather have you in my life the way you are than not have you

Brian Atlasin my life at all." >> So what's the point of ever having a boundary then? Okay. I mean, couldn't you say this about almost anything that we find objectionable? Well, you know, at least they're in my life. Like,

Brian Atlasobviously, look, with your kids, I understand. Like I think uh the the love that a parent has for for their their child is

Brian Atlasuh I mean you know I think people parents will go uh will go go through a lot uh you know for their kids you know uh they'll give

Brian Atlastheir life they'll they'll suffer they'll they'll do a lot for their kids but it's like you have a vision for your children you have

Brian Atlasyou want them to uh make the right choices in life. Now, that's not to look obviously your kids are going to make mistakes. They're going to [ __ ] up. They're going to do bad things, right? >> But they're their own people. They're not going to fit the vision that you

Levvenia Robertshave for them just because you have it. And that's part of being a parent is you need to accept that they are their own person and they're be they're able to make choices for themselves and they're going to be whoever they are whether you

Brian Atlaslike it or not. >> I reject that. I think you need to be a [ __ ] based dad and a based mom and be like, "Listen up, child. Listen up, pipsqueak."

Brian AtlasListen up. You're not going to [ __ ] be a hoe. You ain't going to be a hoe for show. For show. You got to [ __ ] lay down the law. You

Brooklyngot to lay down the law. >> Kind of reminds me of um this kid from my high school. his family was really anti-LGBTQ and he was gay and he had to hide it um

Brian Atlasforever and he ended up taking his life because he his parents wouldn't accept him. >> Well, look, thought daughter or gay son? I take gay

Levvenia Robertsson. I'll take gay son over thought daughter. But um you know I right chat, what do you take? Um, >> well, so you're saying that like you're going to like curb it by being like

Levvenia Robertsstrict and setting down like laying the law down, right? Telling your daughter none of that. I'm the boss. My dad did the same thing. >> Well, look, I mean, again, I I

Brian Atlasunderstand. So, when she's an adult, your ability to exert uh influence and authority over her life, she ultimately

Brian Atlashas the final say. But I would hope that I have and again even if you are the perfect parent, your kid can still end

Brian Atlasup making massive mistakes or [ __ ] up or whatever it is. Um, and I'm not saying I'm perfect, not at

Brian Atlasall. But um I think there's certain things like I don't know I don't know how else to say it.

Brian AtlasUh what other option as a father? Okay, so here's my perspective. I don't want my daughter to do Only Fans. What are the tools in my toolbox to attempt to prevent that from happening? >> Cry.

Brian Atlas>> That's not going to help. >> Are you like asking? >> Well, I I I'm not sure. Make sure to pay for her college, I guess. >> Nah, she doesn't need to college. >> Too bad. >> Don't be controlling. >> Yeah.

Brooklyn>> I don't know. I think it's okay for parents to be controlling. >> Whenever you're controlling, >> I think there's a lot. Yes. I was so rebellious cuz my parents were controlling. >> Well, I think it depends how it's done. >> Um, I think you ought to give your

Brian Atlaschildren some degree of freedom. >> Fine line. >> But for like for example, here would be a degree of control. Uh, my kids, they're not gonna have a smartphone.

Brian AtlasThey're not going to have uh internet until they're like 18. My kid is not gonna have a [ __ ] My kids not going to have a phone. >> Do you think that's going to go well, though? Like, ideally, I agree.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. It's social media is >> is so [ __ ] damaging to young people. It's so harmful, especially at that young age when you're really impressionable and your brain is a

Brian Atlassponge and you don't have the the intellectual capacity to be able to parse the messages that are being presented to you. >> I fully agree. >> You don't have like the critical thinking ability to see the [ __ ] the

Brian Atlaspsychological impact that some of this shit's happening. You're going to be exposed to [ __ ] you shouldn't be exposed to. I genuinely think yes. Look, I I

Brian Atlasgrew up with unfettered uh internet back uh this this is like back before social media and like uh you know look uh I think my head on head on is pretty my

Brian Atlashead's on pretty straight regardless but like there's definitely [ __ ] I should not have and it wasn't like my it's just my parents didn't know that there was like [ __ ] insane [ __ ] on the internet. I should definitely not have

Brian Atlasbeen exposed to like some of the [ __ ] I saw. Luckily, I think I'm a decently intelligent person and uh >> Do you think >> it didn't [ __ ] me up? But >> you don't think that's gonna make them want it more, though? Like

Brian Atlas>> they won't even [ __ ] know. My kids are going to be so oblivious. >> Homeschooled. >> Homeschooled. My kids are going to be homeschooled. They're not going to be exposed to this [ __ ] toxic [ __ ] Look, kid. This idea, oh my god, it's

Brian Atlasgoing to be so harmful to the kids. uh people have been productive members of society prior to say like I don't know internet

Brian AtlasI'd say like '9s was access to internet. So >> before internet people have been uh productive members of society. >> Yeah, I agree that >> they don't need a phone, they don't need internet. >> It's bad. And I think that's not even

Levvenia Robertsjust for kids. I think internet and social media is very damaging to everybody. But you have to agree that for your children, limiting them so much is going

Levvenia Robertsto get them to rebel. Especially like, yeah, you're going to homeschool them and maybe they'll have no idea, but what about friends? You can't hide them away from the public. >> Oh, we'll have a strict we'll have a strict I'll have a strict program going for my kids. But

Brian Atlas>> let me know how that works out for you in 18 years or whenever, you know. I'm curious. >> I mean, who knows? Maybe I'm wrong, but what I see happening with cell phones

Brian Atlasand social media, uh we have the the amount of mental illness that uh young women have and young men have. Uh

Brian Atlasthey're being exposed to ideas and things that are super harmful. And ultimately, um, now that's not to say that I'm not I'm obviously going to,

Brian Atlasuh, educate my children and I'm I'm going to I'm not going to be like, the world is, uh, sunflowers and rainbow sunflowers, uh, you know, the the world is, uh, daisies and rainbows and

Brian Atlaseverything's okay. I'm going to be like, no, like there's really bad things in the world out there. Um, and I'm going to make sure that they're prepared for that. I'm not going to like, okay, well, you're 18 now. go like get completely

Brian Atlasyou're going to be completely naive. No, they're going to be aware of the risks and dangers that exist external to how

Brian AtlasI've raised them, but I'm not going to expose them to uh what's on Tik Tok, what's on the internet. They're going to be insulated from that. And then perhaps

Brian AtlasI'll even sit down with them and be like, "Okay, you're 16, 17, 18. Here's what's [ __ ] out there. And here's how they're trying to [ __ ] your brain. And here's how they're trying to make you

Brian Atlasdependent on XYZ. And here's how they're trying to get you uh to be good little slaves. And here's how they're trying to [ __ ] sigh op you. I'm going to sit them down. I'm going to tell them this is what you have to look out for. Here's

Brian Atlashow you can think critically about what the media is trying to tell you is happening. I'm going to sit them down. I'm going to teach them how to think critically, how to be logical, how to be rational. And then with that foundation

Brian Atlasand groundwork they can be ex then they can uh consume this to as much as they even want to and then they can come to their own determinations through critical thinking.

Kitty>> What if they still turn out the way you don't want it even? >> It's a possibility but I think I'm through doing this uh through doing this I think uh

Brian Atlas>> would you still love them like unconditionally? Well, I would still love my I would still love my children. Everybody in the chat's like, "Brian, you're this is this is some pipe dream or whatever." Look, >> that's how my boyfriend was raised. Like

OliviaI said, he was homeschooled. He didn't have social media or smartphone. And I think one of the important things to consider is um there's other allowances of freedom that you can have. So for instance, he and his brother would

Olivialiterally go out and into the woods and just fight with sticks and blow stuff up and shoot guns and you know dirt bike and different things like that. And they had a lot they were one empowered a lot

Oliviaand two had a lot of um like genuine like childhood freedom. Um and he and his brother I mean I know that's

Oliviaonce again a one one case. I'm sure that it can go wrong as well. Um, but it is really cool and it is he is [snorts] so balanced because of it. Um, it's the way

Oliviathat we've discussed wanting to raise like my kids. I understand the the harshness of the concept of disowning a

Oliviachild. Um, I would say I could I could empathize with a it it impacts the relationship that you have with your parent. Um, I think that

Oliviaas a parent, it's very important to let a child know that if they decide that they would like to have a relationship, you are there. But you can't support this current. And I don't think that you

Oliviashould disappear from a child's life permanently. I I think that um sending reminders because there is there is a certain um that is really kind of

Oliviathe last card. Just like if you were having a a child that um you know was doing another and once again self-destru like self-destructive behavior like drug use or whatever. It would get to a point where you would have to cut that child

Oliviaoff because if not you are enabling that child. And that might be not having an active relationship. But that child should always know that if they want to come home and if they realize that they

Oliviamessed up, you will be there and you will love them. And >> that might include sending them reminders every so often. And even if you guys don't talk regularly, but just a message that says, "Hey, I love you. We're here for you if you want to come

Brian Atlashome." >> Uh, quick John, thank you for the 25. Jose, thank for the five. We have a TTS coming here. Sorry for the delay on this. >> Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_00>> Darkman, 42, donated $69. >> Only women think they deserve unconditional love. Men don't receive it. >> Yeah, I mean, I I was looking at the chat. Some people in the chat were like, "Oh, that's really wishful thinking,

Brian AtlasBrian." and see how it is when you're actually a parent. I mean, I think it's actually people think it's going to be super complicated. I don't buy my kid a phone. >> I don't give them internet access. Look, I mean, people might say, "Brian, that's

Brian Atlasreally unrealistic in today's day and age." I mean, as a parent, your job is to protect your children. Um, that's not to say I'm going to completely entirely insulate them. Um, >> well, you forget that they also have

Levvenia Robertslike their own voice and own opinions. And yeah, you cannot provide the phone and stuff or not provide whatever you want. >> Oh my god, your kid is not going to >> answer crap for it. Like my parents didn't let me have a Snapchat or

Brian Atlassomething for very valid reasons. But I sat there and I >> argued with them about it >> for hours about everything. >> Yeah, I'm not tolerating that [ __ ] This is how it's going to be. Uh, deal with

Brian Atlasit. Now look, I understand children can be very skilled in persuasion and manipulation. Oh, ch kids are intelligent in the sense that, oh yeah, they'll [ __ ] manipulate you. They'll [ __ ] cry. They'll do this. They'll do that.

Brian Atlas>> My two-year-old manipulates me. >> Oh, yeah. Even [ __ ] babies and young kids will manipulate their parents. But look, I think it's about just having a steadfast

Brian Atlasposition on what you or how you're going to raise your kids. Some people are saying, "Brian, that's [ __ ] insane. I really don't think it's that crazy." uh

Brian Atlasabsent uh you know what 30 40 years kids did not have cell phones, kids did not have internet access, people turned out

Brian Atlasfine. Um, I I think especially if I have a girl, I mean, even it's going to be the same for a boy, but I think social media ha has a more pronounced negative impact on women, especially when it

Brian Atlaswomen, especially when they're teenagers, um, you know, junior high school. Man, that's like a really insecure period, maybe even younger, even in elementary school. And it's like, okay, you're going to see all these [ __ ] Tik Tok chicks doing

Brian Atlasstupid [ __ ] hoe dances and doing all this [ __ ] I'm not exposing my daughter to that [ __ ] degeneracy. No Tik Tok, no Snapchat, no internet, no cell phone.

Brian AtlasYou can have a [ __ ] regulated flip phone so we, you know, if we let you out and about, you can reach us, but no, you're not going to have internet access like that if you're my kid. And I think,

Brian Atlasyou know, ignorance is bliss. If they're not even aware, oh my god, I'm missing out. They're not even going to [ __ ] know. I think I've seen this firsthand actually. When I was a police cadet, um we had a lect Yeah, I was a police

Kittycadet. Oh boy. >> We had a lecture about how um there was this officer who was telling us how basically the same thing as you. And because he saw a lot of like child abuse, child like that the nasty child

Kittystuff, he also did the same exact things with his daughter. He always >> Yeah. >> Wait, what? >> Wait, I'm not following. Like he did the same things. not like that. But he also

Charlotte Gatesdidn't let her have a phone. He didn't let her do that. And she turned out the complete opposite. >> Can I say something like real [ __ ] >> Coming from somebody where I was raised and I had a flip phone until the age of

Charlotte Gates16, I wish my parents did not get me an iPhone. I wish I did not have any kind of social media access because on some real [ __ ] I probably would not be in the career I'm in. And if you guys are like honestly thinking that you should

Charlotte Gatesbe proud of what we're doing long term, that's not something that we should honestly be proud of as women. And I'm I'm honestly just so sick and tired of hearing you guys make excuses because like as somebody who's in this industry

Charlotte Gatesand who's been in it for as long as I have been, there have been times that I have quit. But yeah, the money is good. I didn't come from [ __ ] money. So yeah, I'm going to go and I'm going to [ __ ] work my ass off. When I can retire, I'm going to retire. Do I know

Charlotte Gateswhat I'm doing is wrong? 100%. But I'm not going to sit here and sugarcoat it and think, "Oh, well, my parents should just let me do whatever the [ __ ] I want." No, they shouldn't. They should be parents until the age of 18, and then if you want to go do whatever the [ __ ]

Charlotte Gatesyou want, they have the complete option to disown you, as you guys want to call it, or set boundaries where they can love you from a distance. I am an ex drug addict. I'm four years sober. So, I

Charlotte Gateshave been 100% cut off before. And if you guys think that just, you know, oh, I can go do whatever I want. No, you can't as a kid. No. Under your parents' house in their No, it's their house,

Oliviatheir rules. If they're paying for your [ __ ] abide by their rules. I don't know what's so hard about that. [ __ ] [gasps and laughter] >> Can we get a celebratory note or something for the four year sober? >> Congrats. >> [ __ ] [applause] hell.

Charlotte Gates>> Hell yeah. >> Like, cuz I'm not I mean, yeah, I'm proud to be where I'm at because I I mean, I do like what I do. I mean, but that's also why I'm single. That's also why I don't, you know, try to go and hurt other people because my lifestyle choice is not going to be everybody

Charlotte Gateselse's. It's also not going to be something that's productive in a relationship. So, why would I go try to do that when I'm still trying to figure out myself? >> Yeah. And I, you know, I think that uh

Brian AtlasI don't know. I think where do I want to go with this? I don't know. Do we think that society has been going in a good direction? >> No.

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. It seems like there's a lot of chaos. I think there's a lot of uh social instability. There's a lacking of social cohesion. Um so I think that uh and I don't know like look, I

Brian Atlasunderstand this idea that if you're really strict with your kid, they're going to rebel maybe. Or maybe you raised a really disciplined kid who's a productive member of society. Maybe it goes either way. I don't look I don't

Brian Atlasknow. I don't have that firsthand experience. I don't have all the answers, but from what I see happening in society, I would like to

Brian AtlasI want to be proactive in my child's life to the point where I want to I see the way things are going with society. I see the way a lot of people are moving

Brian Atlason an individual level. Um, I would want to take as much of a proactive step as possible to try to do the best thing from my perspective for my children and

Brian Atlasraise them in a way where they're virtuous people, where they have integrity, where they're not going to [ __ ] their life up. Maybe I fail. I don't know. Of course, even if you, like I said, you do the perfect thing, you're

Brian Atlasstill, your kids are still going to be fuckups. It could definitely happen. But um I do think you can take steps to mitigate.

Faith>> I don't have kids, but I I think there's you can only try and control as much as you possibly can. And

Faith>> I think discipline and raising your kids to realize that there are going to be consequences for your

Faithactions is very important. And there's that balance. You can only try and control as much as you can and then you just got to let your kid be free and hope for the best.

Brian Atlas>> Good talk. Uh let's see here. Okay, we Let me finish up some of the notes here. By the way, guys, reminder, $69 TTS. Um

Brian Atlasbut uh yeah. Uh okay. Dating topics. Oh, okay. Brooklyn, you said men should pay for dinner when asking a girl a girl out on a date.

Brooklyn>> Uh, so why should men pay? Why should men pay? >> I think I just was thinking of that question for myself because if a guy asked me out on a date and he doesn't want to pay, then I don't think I'd want to go on the date. Just I would want,

Brooklynyou know, him to put the effort in and like I don't know. I just It's kind of like the There's like a quote something about like a guy doesn't have to buy me flowers, but the guy who does buy me flowers, I'll probably pick him. It's just kind of like that.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I've heard I've heard that the >> uh or how does it go? Like I don't I don't need a guy to do X,

Brian Atlasbut I won't date one who Wait, I won't date one who won't something. I don't know, something like that. I know what you're referencing.

Brian AtlasUh, I mean, we already kind of talked about this, but my position is, um, if you're not a lady, you don't deserve chivalry. I think I don't know. [ __ ] just pay for your

Charlotte Gateschicken nuggets. I guess >> I always go I always pay for my food. I always put my card out and I'm like, "You got yours?" I always I never let a man pay for me. And it's just because I don't want to have

Brian Atlas>> Well, you probably can have like You live in Florida or you're go out. Are you in Miami? No. >> Um, close. >> Or you're Okay. Yeah. I'm sure the guys in Florida, like you're you're an

Brian Atlasattractive gal. I'm sure the guys you can go on a dating app or go out and guys will approach you and want to take you out on dates and they'll pay for it. But so you probably get it. Like I'm

Brooklynsure guys are paying for your [ __ ] blah blah blah, whatever. Especially in Florida. I don't know if you're in Miami exactly, but um >> and it's not that I wouldn't go out with the guys we didn't pay. is just >> maybe I wouldn't go on the second date with that guy. You know what I mean?

Alex (comedian)>> Mhm. >> I like guy pays for the first, I'll pay for the second. >> I've done that before, too. Like >> cuz it's also just kind of being kind, you know, >> but usually I will pay for my >> or the he buys the dinner and I buy the

Levvenia Robertsdrinks at the bar after. >> Yeah. Or like he pays, I'll tip, and then I'll tip the girl. >> Why can Can you tell me why the man should pay? >> It just looks good. Like it it's impressive. It looks good.

Brooklyn>> But wouldn't that also apply to the woman? Like, wouldn't it look good for the woman to do it? >> Um, yeah. But usually I talk to older guys, so I feel like they have more money in general when at least when I was younger. I haven't dated.

Brian Atlas>> How old are you? >> Huh? >> Wait, you haven't dated >> in a long time? Yeah. >> But you like hook up with guys, I'm assuming. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, that's dating sort of. >> Yeah. >> Like what? You just go over their house and smash >> kind of. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Netflix and >> Wait, are you an escort? >> No. No. Cuz you said older. You go out with older guy. >> No, like older as in like 27. >> Oh, okay. I thought you were talking like 40s or some [ __ ] Okay. That's not

Brian Atlasthat. I mean, you're what? 23 >> or what? Yeah. 23. >> 27 is not That's >> I don't know if that's old for you. >> I don't know. Well, but Okay, I understand. >> Maybe it depends if you look old.

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