FERAL INSANE DEGEN PANEL?! Goth MlLF?! Lazy Eye Dating?! College Girls! E-GIRLS?! | Dating Talk 280

Date: 2026-02-02

Duration: 9h 07m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlex (Comedian)>

CCharlotte Gates >

LLevvenia Roberts >

BBrooklyn (DT277)>

OOlivia (DT277)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Brooklyn(guest)

SPEAKER_03Briana(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kitty(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Charlotte Gates(guest)

SPEAKER_09Olivia(guest)

SPEAKER_11Alex (comedian)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Levvenia Roberts(guest)

SPEAKER_13Faith(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

ControversyChivalry and women are the table debate

Key MomentBrooklyn's body count list read aloud: 21 partners

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All guests introduce themselves.

BDSM and Findom

Kitty and Charlotte discuss.

Chivalry Debate

'Women are the table' debate.

Body Count Round

Brooklyn's list read aloud (21 partners).

Trivia Round

General knowledge quiz.

Transcript

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Olivia>> I never said it's not a big deal or it's not serious. I just said it doesn't spread. >> I apologize. I'm referring to your tone. Your tone was very kind of dismissive about it and kind of it seemed to me that you were downplaying it. No, I

Levvenia Robertsdidn't mean to. I just there's a lot of like mis there's not a lot of education when it comes to herpes. So, a lot of people get very scared about it and spread

Levvenia Robertsmisinformation. And basically, I guess I'm not saying it's not a big deal, but a lot of the population has HSV1, which is cold

Levvenia Robertssource. >> Um, and I do think the education is very, very important about it, and I don't think there's enough. And yeah, like I don't think there should be such a big stigma around it.

Levvenia Roberts>> Do you want to tell us something? >> Yeah. So, um, it can only be spread when you have open source. The way that HSV1 becomes HSV2 is when people with open sores participate in oral sex. You can

Brian Atlashave HSV 1 and two and be completely asymptomatic. Um, there's medication you can take. It's very common. A lot of people have it.

Brian AtlasDo you do you have the herpes? >> I have HSV1. Yes. >> Is that's the oral variant? >> Yeah. So, it's cold sores, but I've never gotten a cold sore

Brian Atlas>> on the genitals region. Have you had an outbreak? >> No. >> Okay, good talk. Does anybody else want to disclose any sensitive health information on the whatever podcast?

Brian AtlasJust throwing it out there. >> I get bowel obstructions. [laughter] That's why the farting happens, right? You have to >> the bowel obstructions. Do you How's your fiber intake? Is it good or? >> Yeah, I think it's fine. What do you do

Faithto get that taken care of when it happens? I have to go to the hospital. >> And manual removal. >> Who does she look like, Chad? Who does Brooklyn? Is it Brooke? Brooklyn.

Brian Atlas>> Brooklyn. >> You look like walking Phoenix if he was a woman. That is >> and if he was the compliment or is that me? Can you pull it up?

Brian Atlas>> Hey, walking Phoenix. He's a good-look guy. >> But you look kind of chat. >> Wait, is that the guy with long hair? >> Do you see it a little bit, Chad? >> Like she's the female version of walking Phoenix. >> I get told I look like Greta Thunderberg a lot.

Brian Atlas>> A >> Do you Do you see it a little bit, Chad? Or no? >> Maybe a little bit. >> I kind of see who you're talking about. Yeah. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Here, Mary, Google Walking Phoenix. >> Now I got to see that. >> But [clears throat] you look like if walking Phoenix had irritable irritable bowel syndrome.

Brian Atlas>> You look like >> you look like walking Phoenix if he was a woman. But But if uh I don't know. You I don't want to I don't want to roast you. >> Holy [ __ ] >> You have like a unique facial structure.

Olivia>> Really? Yeah. It's cool. Like you look you look very familiar and it is the deep set eyes like Yeah. And the strong jawline. >> Mhm. >> Bro, what do you Oh my god. Holy [ __ ] Not you. [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. Wait. >> We We got We got She's got it. She's got it. Pull that [ __ ] up. She's got it. She's on it. Boom. >> Sorry. >> Scroll that [ __ ] up. >> Okay. It's kind of hot.

Brian Atlas>> Scroll down. Scroll down. Scroll down. Scroll down. >> Yeah, I'll take that. It's a compliment. >> Scroll down. Something smells really good looking man. >> Do you see it? She looks a little bit I

Brian Atlasdon't know. >> Sexy. >> I don't know. [ __ ] >> that thing. I don't know. You guys know that thing. Okay. >> Uh here. Why don't we do

Brian AtlasOh, going around the table. We played the bow video. Would you bow for a man? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No. My the guys wouldn't like it. Would I bow for like a video or just like bow for a video or

Charlotte Gates>> your boyfriend or whatever? >> Um, depends. >> Switch >> on. >> Yeah, I'm a switch. [laughter] >> Yeah, I'm [snorts] >> sorry, I couldn't tell.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I know. >> It happens a lot. Don't Don't >> I wasn't sure where it >> It happens a lot sometimes. I just just in case. >> Wait, wait. Yeah. Wait, wait. Can you do that? >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. [laughter] I see it now. I see the vision.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, now you can't tell. >> That's interesting. >> Yeah. >> So, that's an Is that a Dragon Ball Z tattoo? >> No, it's just a dragon. >> Oh, it looked like one of the It looked like Shenron. >> Looks like you're about to wish for your

Brian Atlaseye to be better. >> I mean, I've tried I've tried. >> Wow, you're so funny. >> Dragon Ball Z collect the balls. >> You're kind of doing that through only fans work. >> A different kind of Dragon Ball Z

Brian Atlascollection of [sighs and gasps] >> Okay. All right. I'll be here all night. Uh, what about Liv Livana? >> Levvenia. >> Oh, [laughter] excuse me. >> I would 100% bow for a man. Yes,

Brian Atlas>> 100%. Okay. Uh, your boyfriend. Would you bow for your boyfriend? >> Depends on what he does to >> whatever he currently does. >> I I guess. Yeah. I Yeah. >> All right. Do you think he's watching

Brian Atlasright now? >> He's definitely watching. >> Can Can you say his name? First name? >> His name is Reys. >> Reys. >> Yeah. Yo, Reys. Um, >> if you're watching this, Reys,

Brian Atlas>> you make him pay $100. [laughter] >> Reys, you you gota um I don't know. Honestly, Reese, you got to start leaving that toilet seat up and [clears throat] insisting on the bow.

Brian AtlasRee, you you've been together for two, three years. It's time, Ree. It's time. Reclaim your masculinity. >> Uhhuh. >> Leave the [ __ ] toilet seat up. Assert dominance. Leave the [ __ ] toilet seat up, Reese.

Brian Atlas>> That's how you assert dominance. >> In fact, Reese, just to test things out, just to test the water a little bit, >> dribble a little bit on the seat. Okay. Dribble a little bit on the seat. Or well, I guess that would require leaving it down. Well, you have to make decide

Brianawhich one's >> I wouldn't care to clean it up, but just like having it all the time, it's a little disgusting. But if it there's a little There's been some pee on the seat. I've cleaned it

Brian Atlasup. Got about my >> Wait, does your boyfriend piss sitting down? >> No. Like he's just his aim isn't the best sometimes. >> Okay, I see. >> Uh, would you bow for a man? >> I'd have to like him and like respect him. >> Have to like him.

Faith>> Yeah. >> Would you bow for walking Phoenix? >> Yeah. >> Nice. What about you? Would you bow for your husband? >> If he wanted me to, I would, but he wouldn't. He would think it's silly and funny. But

Brian Atlas>> what about you? Would you bow for >> um There's very few things that I wouldn't do for the guy I'm dating. >> Okay, valid. All right. >> There's very few things you wouldn't do for me. So, >> pretty reasonable group of gals here. Uh

Brian Atlasthey all seem like they'd mostly do the bow except for you. >> Yeah. >> Funny. >> They they wouldn't like it. >> I don't think I'd bow for you. >> Vape off the table. >> It's good. You'll be fine. Uh what's that?

Levvenia Roberts>> I don't think I'd bow for you, though. No offense. Just the toilet seat thing and the the separate bedrooms. >> What if we left like the period blood all over the seat? >> Women do that sometimes. >> What?

Brian Atlas>> Not intentionally. >> No, it goes in the in the toilet. >> You guys sometimes it hits the side or gets like on the underside. We know. We've seen our to our toilet here at the studio. There's occasionally

Brian Atlasblood. And >> when you pull your tampon out and it slings. >> Yeah. Would [laughter] you bow for a woman? >> Uh, generally no. But if she was, >> let's say, >> so for the perfect woman. Yeah, sure. >> What about a leash?

Brian Atlas>> Well, so I would bow under this circumstance. No. Well, uh, let me investigate that in a moment. >> So, if the deal is this, Brian, you get the perfect woman. You just have to do

Brian Atlaslike a bow once per day. >> Sure. >> Solid. >> But like, so in my mind though, and I don't know if this is unreal. Well, obviously perfect woman. The perfect

Brian Atlaswoman would be uh the richest woman alive. She is the hottest woman alive, at least from my perspective. Uh personalitywise,

Brian Atlasperfect woman alive. Completely acquiesces to basically everything I want. So submissive. um uh other factor like all the other

Brian Atlasfactors that would make her perfect, perfect looks, personality, values, etc., etc. And but I mean even just on the the [clears throat] money thing, okay, she's

Brianaperfect, so she's insanely rich. Okay, I don't have to work anymore. Sure, I'll do a bow. That's of course. But didn't you earlier state that you

Brianaagree with like the more traditional rules in gender that >> there are? So why would you want a woman to be the money earner and the provider for you? >> Well, in this I mean who knows how the

Brian Atlaswoman came into her wealth? obviously a hypothetical in this super in this hypothetical if you're the wealthiest woman uh in the world uh well you don't need to work but uh so it's not like

Brian Atlasshe's going to n a woman who's a trillionaire is not does not have a 9 to5 I guess so she's just somehow I don't know she just got gifted a [ __ ] ton of Bitcoin I guess

Brian Atlas>> okay >> and she's with me and perfect so it' also be like perfect to loyalty never leaves you. Yeah, of course you take the you you'd make a lot I think a lot of

Brian Atlaspeople whether they'd be willing to admit it or not would make a lot of concessions for the perfect person. But I mean I'd still in terms of the

Brian Atlaspreferable dynamic uh yeah I'd want a dynamic where I'm leading in the relationship. She's showing me difference. She's deferring to me. She

Brian Atlasacquiesces to me. Um I'm the decision maker. I'm the leader. So that's the ideal dynamic I want. But if part of that is you get all of that but you have

Levvenia Robertsto do a bow. Sure. Totally totally arbitrary. Super benign. I would do it. >> Yeah. >> I'll give like also I can give a Oh, sorry. Go ahead. >> I just don't cuz you said what you align

Levvenia Robertswith more traditional values. I don't think like having to make all the decisions is pretty traditional. I feel like in a traditional setting, the women make a lot of the decisions as well. >> I agree.

Brian Atlas>> Uh well, so even Okay, if you're talking from a historical standard, uh women would make a lot of uh household uh consumer decisions and some financial

Brian Atlasdecisions. But you're saying in a tra traditional dynamic, the woman is making decisions as to the external like external things

Levvenia Robertsoutside of the household >> like it's equal parts >> in a traditional dynamic. No. >> What's a what's a decision you make outside of the household?

Levvenia Roberts>> Uh I mean it could be okay, we're going to move here. I I have a job offer here. Oh, you have friends here? We're moving there. But nowadays, um, it's two incomes. So that wouldn't really just be

Brian Atlasthe man's choice because the you would also rely on the woman's income and job. >> Well, yeah. Now roles are completely

Brian Atlasinverted and completely negotiable and our birth rate has completely collapsed. Men and women are completely at odds with each other. Um, not to say that people aren't in good relationships, but

Brian Atlasuh, a lot of people are high, both men and women are really dissatisfied with the current dating dynamics that exist. So, I do think it's the case a return to

Brian Atlasuh, a more traditional dynamic, I think, would be superior to whatever the [ __ ] we have now. >> I agree. Um, and I I feel like the big part of that

Levvenia Robertsis just you can't live on one income anymore because if you could then I think the dynamic of one person making the income, the other person taking care of the house and the children >> doesn't matter which sex I think preferably. But

Alex (comedian)>> I agree with that. It's just not possible anymore because of the financial situation >> because if you got an only fancy Well, let's be honest, we're racking up some money. >> But the average person >> [ __ ] I could probably take care of all three of these people. I mean, I want a

Charlotte Gateshouse husband, >> especially Only Fans. >> I want a house husband so I can afford it. But I don't think the average person can. >> Yeah, average people, but let's be honest. >> Traditional practices, though. That's totally different. >> Traditional was definitely more men

Brian Atlasdefinitely made most of the decisions outside of that. >> Well, here I mean, here's a hot take on this. I think even if the man's not working at all, you can still have a

Brian Atlastraditional dynamic, but that's going to require the woman to submit regardless of the fact that she's the bread winner because I think being submissive is not strictly

Brian Atlasuh it's not strictly inextricable from who the bread winner is. Like you would agree with me that a woman could be obscenely wealthy, but you come across the right guy and you would be submissive to him.

Brian Atlas>> I agree. >> So because I mean I think a man can be masculine and dominant absent his money. Now I think it can it can help um it can

Brian Atlasbe a factor, but I mean you you look at some men who are don't have money and they're still hyper masculine. They're

Brian Atlasstill dominant men, >> but I think it is a component of it, but uh I don't think it's completely 100% tied. >> I think you can provide as a man without

Brian Atlasproviding financially. >> Like if a woman has a PJ, a woman has a private jet and she wants to deal with me, like it's my private jet. Like

Levvenia Roberts>> it's your jet, but it's we're on my jet, baby. I got I got It's good. These guys. >> So, like she'll get you like she has a nice car, but like you're going to drive her around in it. >> Yes, I'll drive the car. >> I like that.

Brian Atlas>> I'm going to She can be passenger princess in her really nice car. >> Brian, do you pump the gas? >> Yes, I pump the gas. I like to drive. I'd rather drive. She can be in the

Charlotte Gatespassenger seat. I mean, look, I don't want to die, so >> I don't want to die. That's crazy. >> That's fair. [snorts] >> Yeah, >> absolutely. >> Do you know how to drive a manual vehicle? Yep.

Brian Atlas>> Actually, I do [laughter] not. >> Oh, wow. That was my first I don't know how to drive a stick. >> I'll teach you. I just learned. >> Whoa. Okay. Uh >> sad. >> Yeah. I mean, most cars are automatic

Brian Atlasnowadays. >> I guess in the zombie apocalypse, it's like you're running away from the zombies. Oh, quick. Let's get in this car and get away. Oh, [ __ ] It's a stick. We're dead. Sorry. >> Oh, [ __ ] >> I know. My dude has to teach me how to drive his truck cuz like gosh forbid I

Oliviahave to like drive his own. >> Sic. So sick. Yeah. 100%. is the coolest. It's more fun. Like a 1980s Toyota. >> They're sick. >> If a man pulled up in an automatic vehicle or like not a truck, I'd find

Brian Atlasthat extremely unattractive. You pull up in a Honda Civic, I'm going to be like gross. >> Yeah. >> I think though it' be like the I don't know. Look, you mentioned like house husband or whatever. >> Uh like if a girl I I don't know if I

Brian Atlasencountered a girl who's just obscenely wealthy, uh [ __ ] [ __ ] it. We're going to pump out a bunch of kids and I'm taking care of the kid. like I don't know it's just work this this idea that work is

Brian Atlasthe ultimate fulfillment in life well especially for women that's a sci but even for men this idea that work I I can understand the drive for like building

Brian Atlassomething or uh putting in a hard day's work I understand how that can be uh provide some degree of fulfillment but I think that's also even a scop for men to a degree in the sense that

Alex (comedian)like okay you're going to be a wage slave for like 60 years, you're going to break your body. Uh I don't know. >> I don't know. I feel like a lot of women can't don't understand what it's like to

Alex (comedian)live below 50 grand sometimes. Like if you want to be a housewife, you got to learn how to live with one income. You tell them you can't live off 40 grand a year. >> Yeah. Reducing consumption and just

Oliviaaccepting that like there are sacrifices that you make. like, yeah, ideal world, we could afford a nice life or same quality of life as as two people. But I also think that there's ways if having a

Oliviafamily is your is your goal. >> Um there's ways to kind of set up your life in a way that your career can be adaptable for a family. Like I right now I'm doing events, I'm doing social

Oliviamedia, I do photography, I have experience in graphic design, I do marketing for like a hundred of our clubs nationwide. And I chose this career path out of different career

Oliviapaths simply because it would be adaptable for me to then go freelance for me to do work from home part-time. It's it's a career that allows me in the

Oliviafuture to >> stay home with my kids cuz I want to homeschool and then I can, you know, contribute financially to my family. So

Levvenia Robertsthere's other options, but I think if you're if you prioritize your career over your family, then like yeah, it's not going to not work out. >> I'm doing the same as well. And that's

Levvenia Robertslike the main reason why I do OAF is because I'm creating my goal is to create generational wealth for my future family and kids. >> But at what price? >> Yeah. At what cost?

Brian Atlas>> The price of my soul. I don't care. >> Yeah. Exactly. Well, you don't care about your soul. Come on. It's crazy. Um, but uh here's a question.

Brian AtlasIf you go to a guy's house and he has emergency rations, rations, am I saying that right? >> Rations. >> Like he's got 30 he he's got like a a

Oliviathreemon supply of food. Like a [ __ ] hits the fan type prepper. Like he's a prepper. Would you date a prepper? >> Yes. >> Yeah. He's got MREs ready to go. He's got everything. Oh yeah, it's the

Brian Atlassickest. Yeah, he's effective. >> Here's a question. Who here enjoys a a quality of life that

Brian Atlaslike I don't know if you were dating a guy uh and he like takes you on trips or what what's there's a term for it. I don't know if luxury would be the right word. Who here wants that like kind of

Brian Atlasmore luxurious lifestyle? Do you now you get to pick that or you guys have a bunker? >> Bunker, >> but you don't get to do the luxury [ __ ]

Brian AtlasWhich do you pick? >> A bunker sounds sick. >> Bunker. [laughter] Cuz I'm thinking like maybe the guy he he he earns a good amount of money, but he can't do both. He can't It can't be

Brian Atlasboth. Okay, we're going to like have luxury lifestyle and have the bunker. He only has enough to pick one. So, I think

Brian AtlasI think you got to I mean, if I had to make make that decision for for myself, I'm getting the bunker and we're

Brian Atlasstoring. We're there's going to be a [ __ ] water processing thing there for rainwater. Well, I guess we're [ __ ] in California. Okay. We're There's going to be There's going to be that. We're going to be uh I don't know what we're gonna have.

Brian Atlas>> Solar panels. >> Yeah. Bunk. uh underground bunker. Uh guns, a lot of a ton of guns. >> Yeah. >> Uh food supplies the last years. Um

Brian Atlasunderground bunker though. But we're going to live kind of a bit of a, you know, it's not going to be, you know, you're not going to drive the Lexus, you're going to drive the Toyota. >> You're not going to get bags. You're >> the simple life.

Brian Atlas>> You're you're going to buy clothes at Costco. You don't get the the I don't know what what Chanel. What do women wear? Prada. What is it? What's the [ __ ] fancy [ __ ] >> Got them right.

Brooklyn>> Thank you. Appreciate it. You're going to buy [ __ ] at Costco, but we have the bunker. Who takes the trade? Do you take the trade? Brooklyn? >> I'm confused by this question. >> You're confused. >> Like, why the why bunker for like when

Brian Atlasthe world ends? >> I kind of want to be I want to die when the world ends. The what if? >> No. >> Like, I don't want to be alive for that. >> Wait, this is a great question to ask a

Brian Atlaspotential dating prospect. I ask it of women. Okay. Zombie. Zombie. But not like slow zombie like Walking Dead where it's like, okay, they're [ __ ] like

Brian Atlaseasy unless it's like a massive horde. Uh, it's like fast zombies. >> Call Call of Duty. Like, >> not going to lie, I fantasize about this. >> You think about that [ __ ] >> I fantasize about the zombie apocalypse. My house, there's

Levvenia Roberts>> it's ready >> surrounded by fields. Do you have a moat? I have a walk around seem like you have a moat. >> Yeah. And I can stand on the roof of my porch and I just walk around with with a rifle. I could see a zombie coming from miles away. >> I love that for you. You're ready. Um,

Brian Atlas>> I'm ready. >> Here's the question. Oh, what am I doing, bro? Sorry, I'm dripping water everywhere. >> Okay. Zombie apocalypse. [sighs]

Brian AtlasDo you attempt to survive or do you just >> I'm out. >> Well, I would commit suicide. >> Yeah, I'm out. >> You You would or wouldn't? >> I would never commit suicide. >> What do you do? Zombie apocalypse. I would attempt to survive. >> Survive. >> Survive. >> Survive or off yourself?

Brooklyn>> Survive. >> Survive. I always envision it. I'm going to pull out a lawn chair. I'm going to smoke and I'm just going to watch the world burn. >> So, you're just going to let yourself be >> Yeah. Too much anxiety. >> Would you instinctually though like want to like >> Yeah, probably >> run away.

Faith>> Yeah. Your brain's going to sit there and let them eat you. >> I mean, it's all hypothetical. >> Would you just >> probably >> take yourself Okay. What about you? >> I would try to survive, but I mean, death isn't the worst thing. >> What about you? Uh, if my family's

Oliviaaround, I'm around. >> Let's say uh your family's not around. >> I'm dead. >> You You >> I would literally I'd be out there just >> I'd only

Olivia[laughter] Sorry. >> That would be only want to survive if I could like do something to protect them, you know? >> You'd constantly be fearing for your life like that. Your quality of life

Brianawould be so down. >> Yeah, you're constantly running for your life. >> But what if you survive [clears throat] and it's potentially over at one point and just dying? >> You got to try. But a girl who says she would just I think can't date her. >> Think think of the pros.

Brian Atlas>> Have a survival mindset. >> Think of the pros. No taxes. No work. >> Yeah. >> Well, you have to work. You don't have to pay taxes right now either. >> Home or something. Maybe >> unless you're >> I think I'd prefer to pay taxes than

Brian Atlasdeal with a zombie apocalypse. >> Yeah. But >> well, you don't have to deal with either right now. You don't really have to do either. >> Would you rather encounter >> taxing on that? >> Yes. >> Um.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, wow. She's, you know, the only fans sends you a 1099 probably, I think. >> Yeah. [gasps] >> The IRS watch. >> Oh, so they can send it to Israel. >> No thanks. >> Oh my god.

Kitty>> All right. >> Kitty, can you repeat your question? Oh, I said, would you rather encounter a zombie or a man? A zombie. I could kill it. >> A zombie. >> Zombie. >> Oh my god. That's like the bear question. >> Yeah, that's what [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> more ridiculous. >> Yeah, I think uh yeah, I don't know. Kind of a red flag though if the girl doesn't want to survive. Anyways, uh we have a chat here from

SPEAKER_00Reese. Oh, wait. What the [ __ ] >> Reese Ravich donated $100. >> T1 nursemother.C2ley.c3.

SPEAKER_00Do you have 360 division C4 move away from my girl C5 sorry you have to sit

SPEAKER_00next to horse C6 my HB wants you C7 my other HB wants you C8 you look too old to be here C3 is chocked >> that's not him

Brooklyn>> is that him >> name >> but he said move away from my girl and I'm se four boyfriend so based >> it could be someone trolling >> is that actually your >> I think so. >> Wait, is that actually Reese?

Kitty>> Does it sound like him? That's his last name. [laughter] >> That's actually sick. >> Does he watch the show? >> Damn. You date somebody like that? >> Wait, does he watch?

Kitty>> He talks like that to women crazy girl. >> And you're over here trying to advocate for them. >> Yeah. >> A >> think it's a joke. >> It's wild to me. >> No, you know, maybe it's a joke. Maybe

Brianait's a joke. Like >> it's awkward. [laughter] Does he watch the show? >> Uh, I he right now. >> I think so. I mean, he is right now. >> No, but like

Kitty>> he definitely knows the show. Yeah. >> Does your boyfriend call like women [ __ ] and stuff? Besides that, >> I never called me one.

Brian AtlasOh, Reese, you might messed up, buddy. >> Uh, yo, wo in the chat, I guess. Um, I don't know.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, okay. So, let's get into uh actually I need to get up momentarily. Um do you want to do some of your comedy set >> or if you guys want to pick a topic to >> I have I have a beautiful joke really

Alex (comedian)quickly. >> I'll be I'll be back in a moment. [clears throat and cough] >> You know, they say that uh Minnesota's full of ice right now. It's flooded with

Alex (comedian)ice. It's everywhere. Can't go down the street without ice, you know, catching up to you. The best I can say is of course there's ice in [ __ ] Minnesota. It's cold. It's January.

Briana>> That was really good. >> Thank you. >> Amazing. >> Got another one. Alex >> Charlotte's got one. >> Uh-uh. >> How long have you been doing comedy like stand up for? >> Look at you.

Alex (comedian)>> Did you just randomly get into it or? >> No. I've always been pretty much like a comedian, so I was like, "Oh, this is really easy." >> Is it hard to get like gigs in terms of like >> Oh, no. No. I I have a decent following

Alex (comedian)on my Instagram. It's like 250 something like that. So, it's just >> 250,000 >> 260 something like that. >> Wow. Since this is a dating show. Oh, wait. You go ahead. >> Oh, I was just going to say you have a

Oliviastrong stage presence. So, [laughter] I feel like like I could imagine like dark room, you just have a drink in your hand and you're just kind of like shooting the [ __ ] Like I feel like that would go over very well. >> And I definitely am like a pinpointer. Like, oh, what do you do for a living?

Alex (comedian)>> Oh, >> you're very captivating. >> What? I can't [ __ ] stand as a guy. Yeah, >> it's very much Yeah, it's it's fun. I like it. It's >> awesome.

Kitty>> Oh, [laughter] okay. Since this is a dating show, what guys do you go for? >> Country men, bluecollar men, >> like physical type. >> A guy with a truck >> is what you said. You said

Levvenia Roberts>> specific >> either a stick or a truck. >> You better have a [ __ ] >> country boy. [laughter] country boys, same thing. Like there's nothing hotter than a man

Levvenia Roberts>> that does like physical labor all day. Those muscles from that, those are like they're different than the Jim Bros. >> Would you still like him if he was like a twink but still did that stuff?

Levvenia Roberts>> Probably. I'm not going to lie. I'm a hopeless romantic. Like >> no twinks. >> I fall in love easy. But I I'd like the country boy.

Alex (comedian)>> And no liberals. No liberal twinks. Only countrymen with mullets and a truck. >> Yeehaw. >> And you better tell me to shut up sometimes. [laughter] >> Give a little slap. >> I don't know. Maybe maybe in the

Alex (comedian)bedroom. Yeah. >> A little >> roughening up, you know. Wouldn't mind that. >> What about you, Charlotte? >> Um I don't go after men anymore. >> Women? >> Nope.

Charlotte Gatesasexual. >> Nope. I just don't I just don't care. Like my job, it's so filled of it. Like I don't care. >> So you're focusing on yourself right now? >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> That sucks. >> Somebody that like

Briana>> I don't feel as though I'm in a relationship with as like as opposed to like boyfriend and girlfriend. Someone that more so feels like a best friend, if that makes sense.

Briana>> So looks don't matter. >> They do. Um but I'm more personality based than looks. So >> personality will override looks for me.

Kitty>> I'm lowkey a chubby chaser. >> Chubby chaser. So you like Dortas except guy version? >> Dad bods. I like dad bods a lot. >> Oh okay. Okay. >> I guess short kings if I were to go for like I've never dated a guy taller than me ever.

Charlotte Gates>> I like short guys too. >> Yeah. It's weird. It's really weird. >> The lowest height you would go for. >> So I'm 6' 56. I've dated 5'6. >> I don't have one.

Levvenia Roberts>> Oh no. I definitely want like six foot. I want I want him to like tower over me, like look down on me. I think that's hot. To look up at someone. >> Yeah, that's so hot to me. >> I don't think like height is like a

Levvenia Robertsfactor for me necessarily, but all the guys that I end up being attracted to are short. >> Yeah. See, I I don't want to ruin my jeans. >> Short too. >> Shorter than me. I'm 5'8, 5'9, so

Levvenia Robertsanything below that or the same height as me, like whatever. It's just It's not like I go after those men. I just find myself always attracted to them. >> Okay.

Faith>> So, I it's a type, I guess. >> Wait, you guys? Yeah, you guys. >> My type? Uh, my husband is traditional bluecollar

Oliviabusiness [clears throat] owner. Hard >> I bet your husband's so sexy. [laughter] >> Truck driving. >> Does he have a mustache? >> Um, sometimes. That's my boy's got a mustache and a

Olivialittle bit of a mullet and gorgeous curls. Like gorgeous, gorgeous curls. Um, he's very efficient and effective. Has a lot of skills. He was homeschooled, so he didn't have social

Oliviamedia until he was like 22. Didn't really start dating till he was like 24. Um, super based. Uh, and he knows like how to do plumbing, welding, electrical

Oliviawork, how to fix a car. He's just kind of knows how to do everything. He does woodworking. He he welded me a shelf for um Christmas that had like roses in the center and like two roses coming out and then it had a

Levvenia Robertsball bearing so that I could like hang up my artwork in my room. That's >> um going off of cuz you said he didn't have social media until he was 22. Yeah. >> Um I have a question for the ladies. Would you date a guy that regularly

Charlotte Gatesposts on Instagram? >> No. I need an opposite of me. >> I don't care. >> I love opposites. >> I mean, yes. If if I was to go out and date now, I would have to date somebody

Charlotte Gatesin my kind of field. So, yes. But if it was like in the future, if I ever try to actually do something serious, no. >> And not just like pics with friends like or if it's for work, that's like if he

Alex (comedian)has a business. Totally understandable. I'm talking like selfies posed. >> Well, it depends on the selfie, I guess. If he's Well, I mean, even like gym dudes, they post selfies all the time. Their progress. I don't know. I don't mind. I don't

Briana>> As long as he doesn't engage with like other women doing it, I don't see a problem. >> I think like thirst traps like Tik Tok >> Oh, yeah. That's That's Yeah, that's a no. Yeah, that's crazy. >> Absolutely not. >> I think it's a red flag.

Olivia>> Yeah, me too. >> I think it's a red flag, too. >> I I wouldn't be able to take like my boyfriend seriously. >> Yeah, if he's over there. Well, and I feel like biting the lip of your own life if it like invades your own life or

Oliviayou feel like you have to like perform or like I don't know >> if he's just taking like if he was just out taking pictures of nature and like posting that up. Hell yeah, dude. Do your thing. Beautiful. Like >> what if he's getting paid to like post? >> Yeah.

Brooklyn>> Oh, that's a job. That's a nice job. >> Oh, okay. >> What if they're just doing it for like female attention and [clears throat] I think it's in the nicest way. >> Big difference. >> Why do you need all that validation? >> Exactly. Mhm. >> And if there's a bunch of quotes on

Brianathere, I'm going to lose my mind. >> Mhm. >> Or like if they're just like thirst trapping because they want to like there's no money or no follow. >> So that's a red flag for you guys. >> Yeah.

Levvenia Roberts>> Other red flags, Brian. >> That's a red flag. >> So far, >> he's not here to defend himself. >> The toilet thing, the toilet seat thing

Oliviawas a huge red flag. >> Yeah. Is it the fact that it's something you feel like is small that he's standing firm on or do is it actually like the the toilet seat itself that's

Brianathat you have an issue with >> something so small like my love language is like doing little things that normal like people that aren't in a relationship might not think matter as

Brianamuch but they really do like how I don't I don't remember who mentioned cutting up steak. Yeah, that would also mean so much to me. Like it's just a little thing. >> I kind of see the toilet seat thing as kind of degrading to make your

Alex (comedian)>> I feel like you're doing on purpose. It's a little strange. >> It's kind of degrading. >> It's a little strange if you just leave it up on purpose. But if it's your bathroom, >> I think it's very like >> But he did say it's it own his own bathroom. I wouldn't have a problem if he's leaving his own bathroom, toilet

Alex (comedian)seat, whatever you want to do. >> Decency. Common like decency. >> I don't know. I I grew up with brothers and my dad would always leave the toilet seat up. I just >> Yeah. >> But but but that you have to put it in perspective like

Alex (comedian)>> I'm so glad that I get to put the toilet seat down because those people are still alive. >> Yes. Amen. >> So um like even if it's like socks, I'm

Alex (comedian)so glad I get to fold tiny socks all day because they're alive. So I I'm glad I get to do the dishes for people who are alive. So, I mean, you can complain about the small things all day long, but at the end of the day, if you care about

Levvenia Robertssomeone, >> put the [ __ ] toilet seat down. >> I get what you're saying, but also like the little things do matter. And it's not just the toilet seat. I think that's just an example of like little things like is he going to hold the door open for you?

Levvenia Roberts>> I'm sure he would. >> Like, like little things like that. And I feel like that goes along with like clo like with putting the toilet seat down. Like gentlemanly things that I feel like are very looked over. I think that just depends on it just goes down

Alex (comedian)to the fact are you going to be with this person or not you know if not putting this toilet seat down is like a make or break like you can just get out of it you know >> of course >> if you don't want to fold alone you can just get out of it so at the end of the

Alex (comedian)day it's like it's just up to the person if you don't want to put the toilet seat down it's totally optional to leave >> I just think it's absurd when no offense Brian Brian wants to be

Levvenia Robertstreated like a king but Brian doesn't want to give that same energy back. That's where the problem lies >> with the toilet paying for everything. [clears throat] >> Does the king bow to the queen? >> Yes. >> Yes. Behind closed doors. Have you ever

Brian Atlaswatched any >> Wait, are we using the same analogy? >> If we're talking about literal royalty, the queen is subservient to the king. >> Do you know how much influence women have? >> How would that be relevant to your

Levvenia Robertsanalogy? >> Well, with yours, like the king bows down to the woman as well. there. It goes both ways. Maybe not in front of his people, but he he does behind closed doors. >> No, the king does not bow down to the

Brian Atlasqueen >> in your world. >> Not No, I'm I'm actually talking about literal like royalty, >> but like >> they have influence in other ways.

Brian Atlas>> Well, yeah, there's no dispute that the queen would have influence, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the specific dynamic between the king and the queen in this

Brian Atlasinstance. No, the king is not uh what's the right word? Subservient. Um obedient. I don't know. >> Submitting. >> Not quite submitting, but

Olivia>> uh yeah, the the the king is the head honcho. >> I think that you're viewing the um reverence as being one directional. So in terms of like people have to bow to

Oliviathe queen, queen has to bow to the king and king doesn't have to bow to anyone below him. I think that there is a and by that metric then like queen and common person would be essentially in

Oliviathe same category of reverence owed by the king. Does that make sense? >> Like they >> no >> because I I feel like it's like ultimately the king is >> at the top peasants. Peasants jester.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, my bad. >> Queen king. But I you were saying how the toilet seat thing it's such a small thing. Well, if it's such a small thing, why can't I reverse this on you and say if it's such a small thing, it shouldn't

Brian Atlasmatter >> because you were the last person to use the toilet, so put the seat down after you're done. >> There is no logic. I don't understand the actual logic of the man should put the toilet seat down for the woman. Logically, it doesn't make sense.

Brian Atlas>> Cuz you care. >> What's the logic? She should care to not >> force me to have another incumbrance on my time. Oh, I've got to think about I need to be considerate of the toilet

Kittyseat. >> It's like other things like send a text if you if you're busy and can't reply. Be like, "Hey babe, I'm a little busy right now." >> Uh I think that's generally okay unless you're like really busy and in the middle of something. But

Brian Atlas>> it shows that you care. [clears throat] >> I think that's Yeah, but that that that's a bit different. I think that's different than what we're talking about with the toilet seat. The toilet seat is this completely arbitrary thing. Ultimately, the thing that logically

Brian Atlasmakes the most sense is whatever the state of the bathroom is, what uh however it is, you transform that state into the state that you want it to be

Brian Atlasin. So, if I go into the bathroom and the toilet seat is down, I put it up. If the toilet seat is up for you, you put it down. That just makes the most sense.

Levvenia RobertsI feel like we're getting hung up on the toilet seat thing when it's a it's a bigger picture. >> You brought it back up. You brought >> It's a bigger picture. >> What's the bigger picture? Tell me the bigger picture. >> Chivalry is dead. >> By putting women

Brian Atlaskilled it. >> The men I meet. >> Here's my here's my thoughts on the chivalry thing. Uh chivalry is for those who are deserving of it. Now, I'm not

Brian Atlassaying that certain people should be mistreated or abused or treated poorly, but chivalry is a step beyond like you can, would you agree that you can be polite to somebody but not observe

Brian Atlaschivalry? Like a man could be nice to you but not be chivalous like he's not he's not insulting you. He's not calling you names. He's not being abusive. He's he's talking to you in a respectful tone, but he's not being actively

Brian Atlaschivalous. Would you agree? He is still uh being nice to you. Absent chivalry. Yes. >> Okay. So now I guess my position on the

Brian Atlaschivalry thing only some women are deserving of it. So in order to demand or well here's the

Brian Atlasthing I think even completely trumpet modern promiscuous women well not even promiscuous that's not related. Well it's sort of related. Uh, you can still

Brian Atlasget chivalry because men know it's most effective. It's the meta most effective tactics available if any of you play video games. Now, the meta in dating,

Brian Atlasregardless of how non-traditional the woman is, women still uh enjoy traditional treatment. Now, from a bird's eye view, that's [ __ ] [ __ ] But you still, even even

Brian Atlascompletely feminist, liberal, progressive women, a lot of them still insist on men holding up their end of the deal when it comes to traditional gender roles. My position is in terms of

Brian Atlaswhat's uh bird's eye view, looking down at the chessboard, what's fair, what makes sense. Uh men should not be chivalous to a woman unless she's a lady. Now, I'm not trying to be mean.

Brian AtlasI'm not trying to attack you guys, but the reality is if you're a sex worker, you're not a lady in the in the dynamic. When I say that, obviously you're

Brian Atlasfemale. When I say you're not a lady, you're not a lady in the the uh fair exchange of he's a gentleman, you're a

Brian Atlaslady. So, while I understand like look, we got some Only Fans girls here. Uh you know, I'm sure you guys get asked out by men. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to pay for the date and open the car

Brian Atlasdoor and be a [ __ ] s and do all this [ __ ] What I'm talking about is something different. I understand you might get it and you enjoy it. I don't think you should

Brian AtlasI think it's unfair to expect it given your own position. So, by virtue of you guys being sex workers,

Brian AtlasI don't think you should expect or you deserve chivalry. >> So, because we're sex workers, we deserve less. >> Uh, if you could frame it that way, I

Brian Atlassuppose, but my framing would simply be if you are like men, you need to meet this traditional standard. It would occur to me that it'd be fair that you

Brian Atlasas the woman and look, I think being traditional is not a it's not a binary. I think it's a it's a scale, you know. So, I think you don't need to be like 100% perfectly trad.

Brian AtlasI think it needs to be approximation of equality in the trad today 2026.

Brian AtlasYou got women who are liberal, progressive, modern, feminist, boss babe, sex worker, promiscuous women, and that's a modern standard for

Brian Atlasyourself. However, you want men, you basically want men to be 1950s bachelors and adhere to, okay, he's got to protect me. He's got to be willing to provide.

Brian AtlasHe's got to pay for dates. He's got to be chivalous. He's got to do all these things. What do men get? >> You want women to be 1950s housewives doing

Brian Atlas>> but but so but this is a critique of your position. So, as the sex worker, uh, I don't believe that you're holding up your end of the traditional deal. And

Brian Atlasso, look, I understand you can you probably still want it. You can probably still get it because, again, meta, most effective tactics available. So, I think it's can I can make arguments for why I

Brian Atlasthink it's like kind of [ __ ] to pay for the first date, but a lot of I advise men to do it regardless regardless of how unfair or fair, whatever it is, uh because it's the most

Brian Atlaseffective tactic available. Now, and uh like it's either for some women, oh, okay, you want to go 50/50, it's going to be neutral or negative. Pay for the date, it's neutral or positive. Most

Brian Atlaseffective tactic available. But if we're actually having a in investigatory conversation about these gender dynamics between men and women, yeah, it's a [ __ ] raw deal for a man to be

Brian Atlaschivalous, do all these things for a woman who's a [ __ ] It depends what factor it is. But who's a sex worker?

Charlotte GatesI'm not saying that to be mean or whatever. I just think it's the truth. >> It is. I 100% agree. But that's also why I don't date. I choose not to because I don't good for you. >> I honestly don't think that a man

Charlotte Gatesdeserves that in a relationship like genuinely and that's just sex worker thing. Yeah. And that's just my opinion. Like if you're going and dating like you shouldn't be doing porn. >> Do you have a Yeah. Um

Levvenia Roberts>> I mean I guess what I said. >> Yeah. Obviously like you can feel that way. Um >> I I disagree. I don't think just because of my job I shouldn't be treated with respect. Especially in my case where

Brian Atlas>> Wait, wait, wait, hold on. I >> sorry, not respect. >> So, >> chivalry. >> Chivalry. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I want to I'm not advocating that because a woman does sex work or she's a feminist or a

Levvenia Robertsliberal that she should be treated poorly or disrespected or abused. >> But I don't think you deserve chivalry. >> I think at least in my case, cuz I I guess I can only give myself as an

Levvenia Robertsexample. I feel like chivalry is the least I deserve, especially if I am planning for my future husband to provide literally everything. >> Wait, you just said you want you want to be the one who works and you want the

Levvenia Robertsguy to stay at home. >> Exactly. So do the little things. >> What? >> Like put the toilet seat down, treat me like a lady. Chivalry doesn't really take much work. It doesn't.

Brian Atlas>> Yes, it does. It depends what we're talking about, but it can Do you do you want a guy to who to protect you? >> Of course.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Question. Generally speaking, when it comes to the gender dynamics between men and women, is there a burden or an expectation on men that the man be willing to uh sacrifice himself to some degree to protect the woman?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> So, it might not mean death necessarily, but like he would have to put himself in harm's way to protect you. >> I think it goes both ways, but yeah.

Brian AtlasI understand that you women might have the urge to like, oh well, I would give my life for my husband, but I think there's a difference here. I don't think you're going to be appraised negatively by a man if you're not willing to do it.

Brian AtlasWhereas society and the individual woman you're dating if you're not willing to uh protect her in certain circumstances, you're going to be negatively appraised by your girlfriend or by society or

Brian Atlasboth, most likely. >> Yeah, I agree. Um, so in this instance, uh, if we're talking about the ultimate manifestation of trady,

Brian Atlasprotect, that literally entails men have to be willing to risk their life for a woman, which uh, is pretty much a bigger sacrifice than I think anything a woman could do.

Brian Atlas>> I mean, women birth children, that's a sacrifice in itself. >> Some Yeah. And there is a risk of death when it comes to mortality from childbirth, but um I don't think it's

Brian Atlasthe same as like actually dying. Like it some women do die, but most women don't from child birth. >> And look, it's painful and it's stressful and it has an impact on your body in various ways. And uh so yes,

Brian Atlasthat is a sacrifice that women do. How many kids do you have? >> I don't have any. >> Okay. I mean this argument that okay, well, women's women's sacrifice to men is that they're having children. Uh most women are not doing a relationship

Levvenia Roberts>> and a men's sacrifice to women is the hypothetical he has to protect her and jump in if there's someone threatening her. >> Well, that's a burden. That is a duty that is expected. >> The burden of having to have kids and

Brian Atlasrisk your life, >> right? But you you would like how many first dates >> burden >> how many first dates have you been on? >> Not a burden, but in the standards, >> how many first dates have you been on? >> A lot. >> Hundreds.

Brian Atlas>> No, not hundreds. Um, >> dozens though? >> Yeah, dozens probably. >> Um, have you had children with any of the men who took you on the first date and they paid for the date? >> No. >> I mean, look, uh, so I don't know. It's

Brian Atlasthis argument that, well, men should pay for dates because women have children. It's like, well, maybe this would make sense 50 uh in the 1950s when a woman maybe went on like three first dates and

Brian Atlasthe third guy she went on a date with, she marries at the age of 18. And then like that makes sense now. Now women are delaying marriage, child birth until

Brian Atlastheir late 20s, 30s. By the time like you take your modern urban city woman and she's married and has kids, she's done been on a 100 dates and she hasn't

Levvenia Robertsgiven any of those men children. So it's like, well, I men should pay for first aids because women have children. Okay. >> But do you expect a man to jump in front of a gun on the first date with someone to protect his woman on a first date?

Brian AtlasI'd hope he'd have a gun. >> I mean, because that's that was the previous argument. It wasn't paying for the first date. It was protecting >> uh I I mean, I don't know if uh the man would do it or there'd be an expectation. I would say that there is

Brian Atlasan expectation on men. >> If in this rare hypothetical situation, you are on a first date and some [ __ ] does go down. if the man cowers in some sort of way or he uh doesn't rise to the

Brian Atlasoccasion, assuming in this super rare situation where I don't know, some crazy [ __ ] happens on a first date. Um yeah, the the women in society will really strongly negatively appraise the man who

Brian Atlascowered. >> I I personally feel like if it's the first date, then I don't think he has any obligation to protect her. No, but I think if uh on a first date a woman made a determination that the guy's a [ __ ]

Brian Atlasthere's not going to be a second date. >> No. And you're right. That's that's true, >> right? So there is like even if it doesn't go down there if there's a sense that I don't know I' I saw this video

Brian Atlasmaybe it was in Costa Rica some streamer chick or something got her her streaming phone snatched or I don't know what it was or he had a knife or I don't know what it was but the guy did nothing and

Oliviaeverybody clowns on the guy who's who knows I mean but um yeah >> can I ask you a question um and correct me if I'm wrong Um, was your argument or

Oliviayour reason that you would deserve the chivalry is because you are financially taking care of everything and so you deserve that that respect as as the financial provider or was it just

Levvenia Roberts>> you know innate whether you were making money or not? I think it's in general I feel like it goes both ways and I think it's just common decency especially while you're dating someone to

Oliviatreat them with chivalry both ways. >> Well, chivalry is is one directional. I mean what you're talking about is being polite and being courteous which absolutely I agree. Um,

Oliviabut chivalry is the expectation that men will essentially prioritize the needs of others, both with their time, with their small actions, and it's it's a show of

Oliviaof reverence for a woman. Um, so I'm I'm asking, do you think that all women deserve reverence because they're just women? Do you think you would deserve

Oliviareverence because you are bringing in money? Um, basically what what >> I think I deserve it because I'd be in a relationship with someone. Okay.

Levvenia Roberts>> Like dating them. >> Well, does he deserve you not being a sex worker? >> If he doesn't want want me to be a sex worker, then he probably wouldn't date me.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. I guess the the idea I'm forwarding here though is that look and all things are essentially like if you don't uh subscribe to for example a Christian worldview, ultimately all

Brian Atlasthings become negotiable. Everything's negotiable. So, you can be the most modern woman ever and be like, "Uh, okay. Well, I want perfect chivalry from

Brian Atlasthe man." Tradition for the man. Uh, modernity for me. Tradition for the man, modernity for me. Uh, I think from an outside perspective, I think that's a

Brian Atlasraw deal for the guy, but all things negotiable. Uh but yeah, ultimately my position is uh yeah, I don't think if you're a sex

Kittylook, if you're a sex worker, I you don't deserve chivalry. I don't know how else to put it. >> Even if you say we don't deserve it, I get it anyway. So I don't really think

Brian Atlassome of us have a problem with that. >> No, I and I acknowledge I do acknowledge that. So you can pretty much disregard basically what I'm saying. This is just to to some extent it's purely for the

Brian Atlassake of conversation. I acknowledge that there's no shortage of men, y'all are, you know, attractive women that regardless of your involvement in sex work, you'll find

Brian Atlasguys to treat you to a nice dinner and pay up the tab and open the car door and be chivalous and be beautiful chivalous boyfriends to you.

Levvenia Roberts>> I think that's a really raw deal. I've never not been courteous to someone just because I just >> talking about I think courtesy uh >> I'm not talking about courtesy but go

Oliviaahead. >> Isn't that the opposite? >> Um no courtesy would be I would say mutual just being polite to each other. Chivalry is typically exclusively practiced by men for women. Um >> well whatever the opposite is for women.

Brian AtlasI've never >> Women don't do that. >> Yeah. It's not are the table. >> I don't believe that. But women, you're the table. I'm the table. Uh, wait. Oh, there's a really good meme that we can pull up. Mary, I think it might be in

Brian Atlasthe Discord. We're going to pull it up. >> Do I have it? >> Yeah, it's in the memes, Mary. It's in the resources memes in the Discord. So, for 99% of dating dynamics. So, there's a It'll probably show them all. Do you have it?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I'm in here. Which one? >> Oh, it's just the first one. Just show us the Discord. >> I have a quick question. >> One sec. in the Discord resources tab. >> Yeah. Uh click on the on the the GIF.

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> The gesture. >> Okay. So, well, yeah, you can show that. Yeah, that's it. And then uh X out and then show the one above it. Just click it. Oh, it's kind of small, but anyways.

Brian AtlasUh just X. So, for I think most this this is that's dating. 99% of dating is that you're and I I'm rejecting I'm doing a rejection of

Brian Atlasthat. It's [ __ ] jester. Your little jester for the woman and it's like what? You tell me what what does the woman do? >> Sorry, the thought popped in my head.

Levvenia RobertsIt's just like birds like you know the the male birds have all the feathers and they do a little dance >> like the peacock. >> Yeah, they're like mate with me. They do a little dance and the women like the the female birds they choose >> the the birds

Charlotte Gates>> and then they raise they lay and raise the eggs and don't get with other birds. >> Exactly. I think that in return chivalry for a woman is being a lady and if you can't be a lady as in us sex workers I

Brian Atlasagree with what you said. >> What defines a lady >> are you do you close your legs on camera or keep them open? >> I don't think that's what defines a lady. Um, >> look, I I mean, I think I think it would

Brian Atlasbe built into uh >> So, look, >> we can try to define what a lady is, but I think perhaps the our starting point is if you're a sex worker, you're not

Brian Atlasthat. Sorry to break it to you. Again, I'm not saying you should be mistreated. I'm not saying you should be disrespected. I'm not saying you shouldn't be treated

Brian Atlasnicely. But when we're talking about certain specific gender role behavior, if you're a sex worker, you have

Brian Atlasabandoned, you have forsaken your part of the social contract. You have forsaken the deal. And that deal is

Brian Atlasmen have certain gender roles, women have certain gender roles. If you're you're not living up to yours, maybe the men shouldn't live up to theirs. Hey, you can still get together and [ __ ] and do whatever you want. Is it just like an on camera thing or what

Brooklynabout women that sleep with a bunch of people? >> Uh, yeah, that would be a forsaking of trad gender roles. >> Yeah. What if the Only Fans girl was doing Only Fans with her boyfriend? Like, what if they did it together? Is

Brian Atlasthat different? >> Uh, I mean, it's still not Trad. So, then you're just getting back to uh we can negotiate whatever we want in our relationship as we can mutually

Levvenia Robertsdetermine we're willing to do. Well, because you guys said the whole reason that it's not a lady isn't a sex worker is because she opens her legs. But if she's opening it only for her boyfriend on camera >> or if she's opening it for multiple people, a bunch of men, what's the

Brian Atlasdifference? >> So even if she even if she does solo content, even if even if it's with a boyfriend, it's still sex work. It's I think dis ought to be disqualifying. >> So it's just the sex work period. that outrules.

Brian Atlas>> Well, there's other things that can so a woman could not be a sex worker but behave in other ways that would ought to disqualify her from chivalry. >> Okay. And does that apply to the men as well?

Brian Atlas>> Women don't do chivalry. So this specific uh I don't understand the question >> is a man still consent. Well, there should be an expectation on.

Brian AtlasSo, if you're a man and you're a [ __ ] degenerate and you're um you have no uh path in life, you have no vision, you're meandering through life aimlessly, you

Brian Atlashave no assertiveness, you have no leadership, you're uh perhaps an alcoholic, you're a drug addict, you play video games all day to an obsessive degree, to an unhealthy degree. I'm not

Brian Atlassaying like if you play video games in moderation it's f it can be okay. Although a lot of women have an issue with the video game thing but that's a separate convo. Uh then I think uh it

Brian Atlasmight be a bit unfair to a woman who like for example a guy who's a [ __ ] boy uh I don't think he's deserving of a trad woman. Mhm. >> A woman who's playing a bunch of or

Brian Atlasexcuse me, a man who's playing a bunch of chicks, running through chicks, and then he wants the the let's say good girl, the virgin. Uh I mean,

Brian AtlasI I think that that's a raw deal for the girl. Now, she may or may not choose to be with him, >> but that's a separate conversation. >> That's majority of the case nowadays, honestly. Not

Brian Atlas>> Let's be honest. Let's be honest. both a lot of men, perhaps even a higher proportion of women are not uh are not holding up their end of the

Oliviathe deal. So, yeah, >> it's about integrity, protecting your image and protecting your partner's image, just like before I came on this podcast. I mean, nobody really knows who I am. I'm not a social media person. Um,

Oliviabut I talked to my boyfriend and said like, "Hey, are you comfortable with me saying this, this, and this?" Anytime I go out and speak publicly or behave in any way at all, I'm representing not

Oliviaonly myself, but my partner, just like he wouldn't go and do crazy stuff that would make me look bad because when you do come together, you're coming together

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