Rachel Wilson DEBATES Feminists! GOTH GIRL! Fake VlRGlN?! E-GIRLS! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #165

Date: 2024-05-29
Duration: 6h 55m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Riley May Lewis(guest)
SPEAKER_04Raika(guest)
SPEAKER_05Nicole(guest)
SPEAKER_07Leonardo/Julia (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_08McKenzie(guest)
SPEAKER_12Gaana(guest)
SPEAKER_13Carly(guest)
SPEAKER_14Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

00:10:25
QuoteRachel Wilson introduces herself as 'Mrs Andrew Wilson' with patriarchy day pass joke

Rachel Wilson: 'I'm Rachel AKA Mrs Andrew Wilson, I'm 43 years old, stay-at-home mom, wife, homemaker, researcher, author — and the patriarchy gave me a day pass to be here via Andrew.' Brian: 'Patriarchy is very generous and benevolent.'

00:25:24
QuoteRiley May Lewis describes her one-sided open relationship

Riley: 'I am in a fully committed one-sided open relationship — on his side.' Brian: 'So you're monogamous, he's sleeping with other [women]?' Riley: 'He is allowed to get with anyone and I am not allowed to get with anyone.'

00:26:05
QuoteRiley justifies one-sided open arrangement with 'high value man' rationale

Riley: 'He's a very high value man... he provides for me in every single way... he checks every single box a girl could possibly want and every girl goes for a man that's in the top 1% and there's not that much to go around.'

00:34:40
Key MomentRaika describes year-long situationship where she lived in his car

Raika: 'He told me he doesn't believe in titles and he didn't want to be exclusive because he wanted to be with multiple women... I kept trying to leave [but went back many times]... he was also my best friend and we were like living in my car together.'

00:48:08
Key MomentLeonardo gives anti-feminist speech to panel

Leonardo: 'I try to do my best to tell young women that they're under the thumb of Oppression even though it's being presented to them as Liberation.' Carly responds that she's never heard this in college. Extended debate begins.

00:57:42
QuoteLeonardo claims Gloria Steinem was in the CIA

Leonardo: 'Feminism as it is was constructed by the CIA with Gloria Steinem — she was in the CIA. It's very well documented.' He also argues James Bond novels were written by an intelligence officer as a CIA psyop promoting promiscuity.

04:23:28
QuoteRating round: Brian rates himself a 5

Brian (host): 'I get myself a five' after guests go around with ratings ranging from 5-7.5.

05:14:56
Key MomentRachel Wilson's hostile Miami trip story

Rachel Wilson describes flying to Miami to meet a Hinge match she'd already met in DC; he was immediately hostile upon her arrival ('I can't believe I let a stranger into my house'), they were stuck in a monsoon. She left early.

05:23:09
QuoteRachel Wilson discloses sex trafficking at ages 18-19 (attributed to Celeste SPEAKER_14)

Celeste X: 'I was sex trafficked at like 18 and 19... it was like prostitute but was it voluntary... no... the last time was more voluntary because I thought I was going into porn.' Prompted by body count question.

06:46:20
QuoteCeleste X reveals body count is 50+ due to sex trafficking history

Celeste: 'I don't really know what my body count is to be honest... it's over 50.' Brian: '50 to 60 or something like that?' Celeste: 'Yeah... I was sex trafficked at 18 and 19.' Panel reacts with empathy.

06:48:19
QuoteRiley May Lewis claims essentially-virgin body count

Brian: 'Body count... less than five?' Riley: 'Under five.' Brian: 'Is it zero?' Riley: 'Under five. Zero.' Friend Carly/Gaana laughs. Riley: 'Stop the cap... that's why I stick to anal sex.' Brian: 'I won't even... that like scares me for real.'

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Guest introductions and announcements

Brian's standard intro and announcements. All 10 guests (8 female + Leonardo) introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian asks follow-up questions on content type, tic disorder (McKenzie), relationship with Andrew Wilson (Rachel).

00:26:20
Relationship status round

Round-robin relationship status: single/relationship/situationship, longest relationships, recent breakups. Deep dives into Riley's one-sided open arrangement, Raika's 1-year situationship, Carly getting back together with ex during midterms.

00:48:00
Feminism debate: CIA psyop and sexual Revolution

Primary ongoing debate throughout show. Rachel Wilson and Leonardo argue feminism is a CIA psychological operation (Gloria Steinem/CIA); James Bond as male promiscuity psyop; Communist infiltration of universities. Nicole argues for co-opting feminist label via Catholic framework. Carly disputes conspiracy framing, defends her college experience. Multiple rounds across the show.

02:14:00
Abortion and reproductive rights debate

Extended debate on abortion rights, paper abortion (legal paternal surrender), unilateral reproductive decisions. Brian argues men should have a legal paternal surrender equivalent if women have unilateral abortion access. Rachel argues secular society replaced religion with political ideology. Carly defends current legal status.

04:14:20
Trans issues and gender as social construct

Debate triggered by question 'is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?' Nicole defends social construct framework for gender vs. sex; Rachel and Leonardo argue biological reality; Rachel argues feminists opened the door to trans ideology via Margaret Fuller (1800s gender spectrum writings).

04:23:28
Self-ratings round

Stiffler TTS asks panel to rate their looks 1-10. Rapid responses (mixed diarization): range of 5-11 (one joke '11'). Brian rates himself a 5. Discussion of humility vs confidence in self-ratings.

04:28:00
Egirl/trad-girl online culture discussion

Discussion of right-wing e-girl Twitter drama; Rachel Wilson's post about e-girl trad culture attracted attacks from competing e-girls. Leonardo and Rachel discuss the phenomenon of e-girls positioning themselves as conservative content creators.

05:00:00
Bear vs. man in the woods

Classic debate question: would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear in the woods? Brian asks each guest. Brian follows with: 'If you answer bear, is your answer racist?' Discussion of whether the question has racial implications.

05:15:00
Rachel Wilson Miami trip and singleness fast

Rachel Wilson tells story: met man on Hinge, had met in DC already, he flew her to Miami but instantly became hostile upon her arrival; stuck during monsoon; she slept in same bed while he was mean. Triggered a 70-day singleness fast and 'Encounter With Jesus.' Led to dating a 6-years-younger man briefly.

05:29:08
Bumble swiping segment

Each guest sets an age range then swipes 20 male Bumble profiles. Most guests rejected 18-20/20 profiles. Raika said yes to 1-2 (car Kink, Wranglers). Celeste said yes to 5-6. Rachel's range: 30-45. Discussion of why women are so selective on dating apps.

06:47:14
Body count round

Brian asks everyone's body count at end of show. Celeste X: 50+ (complicated by sex trafficking at 18-19). Under 5: Gaana/Riley area. Riley claims essentially 0 (anal only); friend Gaana visibly skeptical. Rachel: very low, can count on one hand. Brian: won't disclose. Celeste discloses sex trafficking history in detail.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaspain not from the Gluck luuck don't do that but thank you thank you sir thank you uh body count um
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)I don't really like I don't know I want to disclose it but I will say that it's over 50 mhm so do you want to give a range then like 50 to 60 or something like that
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)yeah I mean it's kind of hard to to know what my I don't really know what my body count is to be honest because like I and sorry what's your age again I'm 22 22 okay yeah no I've been
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)intoy by the way I'm pausing the TTS for just a moment I was sex trafficked at like 18 and 19 so so that's why I'm saying it's kind of
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Brian Atlashard to like Dive In to wait like you were uh if you don't mind me asking can you vaguely how uh I was trafficked by older men that they
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)would try to put me like did you have a pimp or okay it was like prostitute but was it voluntary no well um the last time I did the last time was voluntary
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)but it was also a weird situation I thought um I was going onto like sexy jobs this website to go into porn but actually this guy who said he was a manager for like porn and stuff was
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)actually a manager and stuff but that one I would say was more voluntarily cuz I knew I was getting myself into the other times it was not involuntarily it
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Brian Atlaswas by not not by choice all right body count uh I don't want to answer that question do you want to do range if you don't want to give exact
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Brian Atlasrange range it's under five okay one under five wait is this your current boyfriend it's the same actually actually have known each other since we were 12
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Brian Atlasso actually it might not I mean you guys are at the same age right okay yeah we're the same age wait what was it less than five zero R Riley serious Riley we went over
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Riley May Lewisthis we went over this stop the cap it's not cap I'm serious that's why I stick to anal sexx is it true Riley no I no I is it
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Brian Atlastrue I won't even no no no that like scares me for real what about you like five like five M okay so it could be like six or like four it's around five yeah around five
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)okay what about you under five under five zero zero I'm a married lady but it's very low it's you can count it on one hand I'm also married lady so I don't
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Brian Atlasdisclose my body G all right cool so we're going to do a quick raid then we're going to wrap up the show those of you watching on Twitch very much appreciate it really quick uh Nick pull up the twitch guys drop us a follow on
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Brian Atlasat 5:00 pm. Pacific got some great shows lined up uh we will get Andrew Wilson back in June uh we have we have some good guests lined up we got Q we got Natalie Winters you guys really like her be on the lookout for that in these next
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TTS/Chat readercoming shows any girls who want to be on the show $25 Rachel you're from the devil's team you and Andrew are the most fake wannabe
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)pretending Christians I ever saw in my entire [ __ ] life you both don't do what you preach full of [ __ ] okay okay demonstrate that you little [ __ ] and send Brian all your
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Brian Atlasmoney uh Nick can you pull up we're going to do a raid for twitch wo Grandma guys she's uh she's a 2 Be Nice Guys awesome
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TTS/Chat readersheated $26 to two girl H banging nobody actually cares about body count Brian what sir hiding behind I'm a man of God
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TTS/Chat readershows her insecurity as a virgin these girls being honest and you're a troll I've never kissed a girl I'm a virgin Watson donated
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Brian Atlas200 300 people watching so don't overwhelm her guys be nice please be nice we're going to do raid is the audio boosted on her just uh Mouse over just to double check okay it's cool all right guys uh
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Brian Atlasthank you for watching on Twitch I'm going to send the raid over in just a moment but uh guys tell her we got to get her on the podcast we got to hear her dating takes bro she was dating back in
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Brian Atlasthe50s 60s so she saw the transition boys she saw the transition look at the yawn she's yawning guys we got to wake
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Brian Atlasher up a little bit uh so guys I'm going to send a uh chat in just a sec you wait I'm almost done I'm I I'm going to WP grab water I can wait though two minutes
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Brian Atlastwo minutes two minutes uh okay so I'll pull it back up all right guys thank you for watching on Twitch going to send the raid right now thank you guys good night all right that's going through we'll watch her for just oh she's got
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TTS/Chat readerchecking out some Mount or something Wes Watson donated $25 Rachel I already demonstrated it all
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)ho what okay send more money send Brian all your money
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Nick/production (partial)welcome whatever hi well Grandma Raiders from whatever welcome she's so
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Brian Atlassweet and she is playing World of Warcraft uh retail the retail version of the game so I just I think okay cool we can uh and then we are going to raid Andrew
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Brian AtlasWilson those of you who are watching on YouTube so I think we went over everything let me just make sure uh okay we're good on that look let me just double check make sure it is gonna send
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Brian Atlasover to Andrew's stream here guys one moment don't want to leave him hanging okay yep it's the yes okay we're good all right guys
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Brian Atlasonce again thank you to the panel thank you for tuning in 07s in the chat 07s in the chat I hope you guys have a wonderful night we'll see you again on
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Brian AtlasSunday with another dating talk good night guys