Rachel Wilson DEBATES Feminists! GOTH GIRL! Fake VlRGlN?! E-GIRLS! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #165

Date: 2024-05-29
Duration: 6h 55m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Riley May Lewis(guest)
SPEAKER_04Raika(guest)
SPEAKER_05Nicole(guest)
SPEAKER_07Leonardo/Julia (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_08McKenzie(guest)
SPEAKER_12Gaana(guest)
SPEAKER_13Carly(guest)
SPEAKER_14Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

00:10:25
QuoteRachel Wilson introduces herself as 'Mrs Andrew Wilson' with patriarchy day pass joke

Rachel Wilson: 'I'm Rachel AKA Mrs Andrew Wilson, I'm 43 years old, stay-at-home mom, wife, homemaker, researcher, author — and the patriarchy gave me a day pass to be here via Andrew.' Brian: 'Patriarchy is very generous and benevolent.'

00:25:24
QuoteRiley May Lewis describes her one-sided open relationship

Riley: 'I am in a fully committed one-sided open relationship — on his side.' Brian: 'So you're monogamous, he's sleeping with other [women]?' Riley: 'He is allowed to get with anyone and I am not allowed to get with anyone.'

00:26:05
QuoteRiley justifies one-sided open arrangement with 'high value man' rationale

Riley: 'He's a very high value man... he provides for me in every single way... he checks every single box a girl could possibly want and every girl goes for a man that's in the top 1% and there's not that much to go around.'

00:34:40
Key MomentRaika describes year-long situationship where she lived in his car

Raika: 'He told me he doesn't believe in titles and he didn't want to be exclusive because he wanted to be with multiple women... I kept trying to leave [but went back many times]... he was also my best friend and we were like living in my car together.'

00:48:08
Key MomentLeonardo gives anti-feminist speech to panel

Leonardo: 'I try to do my best to tell young women that they're under the thumb of Oppression even though it's being presented to them as Liberation.' Carly responds that she's never heard this in college. Extended debate begins.

00:57:42
QuoteLeonardo claims Gloria Steinem was in the CIA

Leonardo: 'Feminism as it is was constructed by the CIA with Gloria Steinem — she was in the CIA. It's very well documented.' He also argues James Bond novels were written by an intelligence officer as a CIA psyop promoting promiscuity.

04:23:28
QuoteRating round: Brian rates himself a 5

Brian (host): 'I get myself a five' after guests go around with ratings ranging from 5-7.5.

05:14:56
Key MomentRachel Wilson's hostile Miami trip story

Rachel Wilson describes flying to Miami to meet a Hinge match she'd already met in DC; he was immediately hostile upon her arrival ('I can't believe I let a stranger into my house'), they were stuck in a monsoon. She left early.

05:23:09
QuoteRachel Wilson discloses sex trafficking at ages 18-19 (attributed to Celeste SPEAKER_14)

Celeste X: 'I was sex trafficked at like 18 and 19... it was like prostitute but was it voluntary... no... the last time was more voluntary because I thought I was going into porn.' Prompted by body count question.

06:46:20
QuoteCeleste X reveals body count is 50+ due to sex trafficking history

Celeste: 'I don't really know what my body count is to be honest... it's over 50.' Brian: '50 to 60 or something like that?' Celeste: 'Yeah... I was sex trafficked at 18 and 19.' Panel reacts with empathy.

06:48:19
QuoteRiley May Lewis claims essentially-virgin body count

Brian: 'Body count... less than five?' Riley: 'Under five.' Brian: 'Is it zero?' Riley: 'Under five. Zero.' Friend Carly/Gaana laughs. Riley: 'Stop the cap... that's why I stick to anal sex.' Brian: 'I won't even... that like scares me for real.'

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Guest introductions and announcements

Brian's standard intro and announcements. All 10 guests (8 female + Leonardo) introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian asks follow-up questions on content type, tic disorder (McKenzie), relationship with Andrew Wilson (Rachel).

00:26:20
Relationship status round

Round-robin relationship status: single/relationship/situationship, longest relationships, recent breakups. Deep dives into Riley's one-sided open arrangement, Raika's 1-year situationship, Carly getting back together with ex during midterms.

00:48:00
Feminism debate: CIA psyop and sexual Revolution

Primary ongoing debate throughout show. Rachel Wilson and Leonardo argue feminism is a CIA psychological operation (Gloria Steinem/CIA); James Bond as male promiscuity psyop; Communist infiltration of universities. Nicole argues for co-opting feminist label via Catholic framework. Carly disputes conspiracy framing, defends her college experience. Multiple rounds across the show.

02:14:00
Abortion and reproductive rights debate

Extended debate on abortion rights, paper abortion (legal paternal surrender), unilateral reproductive decisions. Brian argues men should have a legal paternal surrender equivalent if women have unilateral abortion access. Rachel argues secular society replaced religion with political ideology. Carly defends current legal status.

04:14:20
Trans issues and gender as social construct

Debate triggered by question 'is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?' Nicole defends social construct framework for gender vs. sex; Rachel and Leonardo argue biological reality; Rachel argues feminists opened the door to trans ideology via Margaret Fuller (1800s gender spectrum writings).

04:23:28
Self-ratings round

Stiffler TTS asks panel to rate their looks 1-10. Rapid responses (mixed diarization): range of 5-11 (one joke '11'). Brian rates himself a 5. Discussion of humility vs confidence in self-ratings.

04:28:00
Egirl/trad-girl online culture discussion

Discussion of right-wing e-girl Twitter drama; Rachel Wilson's post about e-girl trad culture attracted attacks from competing e-girls. Leonardo and Rachel discuss the phenomenon of e-girls positioning themselves as conservative content creators.

05:00:00
Bear vs. man in the woods

Classic debate question: would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear in the woods? Brian asks each guest. Brian follows with: 'If you answer bear, is your answer racist?' Discussion of whether the question has racial implications.

05:15:00
Rachel Wilson Miami trip and singleness fast

Rachel Wilson tells story: met man on Hinge, had met in DC already, he flew her to Miami but instantly became hostile upon her arrival; stuck during monsoon; she slept in same bed while he was mean. Triggered a 70-day singleness fast and 'Encounter With Jesus.' Led to dating a 6-years-younger man briefly.

05:29:08
Bumble swiping segment

Each guest sets an age range then swipes 20 male Bumble profiles. Most guests rejected 18-20/20 profiles. Raika said yes to 1-2 (car Kink, Wranglers). Celeste said yes to 5-6. Rachel's range: 30-45. Discussion of why women are so selective on dating apps.

06:47:14
Body count round

Brian asks everyone's body count at end of show. Celeste X: 50+ (complicated by sex trafficking at 18-19). Under 5: Gaana/Riley area. Riley claims essentially 0 (anal only); friend Gaana visibly skeptical. Rachel: very low, can count on one hand. Brian: won't disclose. Celeste discloses sex trafficking history in detail.

Transcript

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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)age location in occupation go ahead hi I'm Celeste I go by Celeste X online um I just turned 22 years old I'm from
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Portland Oregon but currently I am staying in LA and my main job is only fans but I also tattoo I make clothes um
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)I do photography and videography I'm an artist so but only fans is my main job did you tattoo yourself oh yeah yeah oh
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McKenzieyeah just remind okay oh sorry yes what about you uh I'm McKenzie I'm 19 years old I'm originally from Minnesota but I moved to LA a couple months ago um my
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McKenzieoccupation I'm a model and actress and twitch streamer and also do social media and yeah also Heads Up chat um this is so awkward to say um I have a disorder
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McKenziehuh close to the mic I have a disorder where I do weird faces and noises and stuff just ignore it just fair warning just don't bully me what's the disorder called so so there's like threats and
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Brian Atlaslike anxiety ticks and things like that so yeah okay good to know good to know and you you do uh you said you do
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McKenziecontent creation yes are you doing spicy content or no no so uh can I like go into something um I have something called fanfix it's like a PG version of
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Brian Atlasabout the whole bear thing uh a little later on in the show by the way $69 TTS for the first 30 minutes of the stream what about you my name is Carly I'm 23
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Carlyand I am a UCSB student and a barista about it what are you studying at UCSB political science political science and you're a senior I am or are
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Carlyyou a grand student I am a fifth year senior so fifth year senior okay van wal over here secret I notic you're wearing a cross you've been on the show twice before I I thought you were a atheist um
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CarlyI'm not an atheist I'm not Christian I just wanted to I wanted to fit in I thought it would fit the vibe tonight and I think it I think I was right so what what do you mean I just from the pre-show conversations I've heard I
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TTS/Chat readerthink yeah I I want to what extending an olive branch it's like a finding commoner score Outdoors donated $69 Bevo the cuck will let you Shack his misses for a buck
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Brian Atlasuh yeah we'll get into I I'll get into the whole drama whatever like all that at the end of the stream so uh yeah so wait so you're not Christian but you're wearing a cross I am not Christian I was
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Carlyraised Christian so I have a lot of just like cross jewelry and stuff so like how do you consider how do you identify religiously I kind of agnostic yeah I would say like agnostic I I do believe there's a higher power but I as a child sort of stopped believing I went to like
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CarlyBible camp and everything like youth group I just kind of stopped believing well who hears is actually religious I mean 1 2 3 4 so it's like mixed group
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Brian Atlashere okay yeah I yeah it's just these two we're getting into it Orthodox Christian what's your denomination I'm non- denominational non- denomination
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Protestant okay yeah so a little charismatic all right okay anyways uh what about you my name is Julia I am 29 I am a technology consultant and I live
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)in Washington all right welcome back thank you my name is Leonardo I'm 33 I'm originally from New York and I am a standup comedian I also have a disorder that just makes me sound like a
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Riley May Lewis[ __ ] yes that's awesome okay what about you okay my name is Riley May Lewis I am 20 years old I live in Los Angeles California and I am a virtual
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Brian Atlasstripper a virtual stripper yes a virtual stripper so you do only fans I mean yeah you could say that okay all right good good times what about you my
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Gaananame is gaana I am 18 years old and I originally live in LA but right now I'm going to sbcc what do you studying over
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Raikathere I study Communications calm okay what about you my name is raika um I'm a thir year UCSB student and I study
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RaikaCommunications I'm 19 I actually just took a gap term in New York so I'm back visiting for a week and got lucky enough to overlap with the show so here I am oh so you're um you're just in town for a
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Brian Atlasbrief period yeah right now and then I'm coming back to UCSB next school year so you did uh spring is it quarter or semester at UCSB it's quarter I honestly
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Raikadon't know it might be semester I honestly don't know it's quarter okay it's quarter yeah so you were go did you do wait cuz you said third year at UC you're going into your third year or
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TTS/Chat readeryou're currently a third year I'm going my9 donated $69 ladies what is the largest pen you've ever had thank for that this goes for Rachel as well what about for me
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Brian AtlasBrian what are the largest breasts you've ever experienced sexually all right um we're going to have to save that for a little later okay let me get
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Brian Atlasthrough the intros first uh but I will make a note to let you know uh L by the way we can only do one question per per chat so
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Brian Atlasokay [ __ ] off to an interesting start okay so you're going into the your third year you did your freshman year at UCSB then yeah freshman and sophomore year this is my sophomore year and I just
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Raikatook like a little Gap term take a break so you're originally from you said that you spent the time in New York yes okay so you're from New York I'm from Austin Texas I grew up in Texas yeah I'm from
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Brian Atlasthe south yeah cuz you got a bit of a Southern accent a little don't say that do I really a little bit do I oh God it's cute so wait what were you doing uh in New York like a sugar daddy
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Raikathere or something oh no I was just a Hostess and taking some classes at NYU oh okay yeah all right nothing like that okay got it all right and wait so you're and then you're going to go you're here
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Nicolefor a week go back to New York and then in the you're coming back for the fall yeah in August okay got it what about you okay my name is Nicole um I'm 19 I'm from Southern California outside of LA
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Nicoleand I go to school in Washington DC and I'm studying de studies where death studies yeah de studies I go to gadet wait death or de oh do you speak sign
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TTS/Chat readerlanguage yeah yeah I know sign language oh okay azy infantry donated $69 y thank you man morning from Australia being watching all your videos on you love
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TTS/Chat readeryour work keep it up no any good pickup lines what's your go to Brian what's my my go-to pickup line hi are you
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Brian Atlassingle that's ground don't got to comp don't got to complicate that [ __ ] all that goofy [ __ ] doesn't work um but uh yo thank you for tuning in from Australia man appreciate it uh what
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Brian Atlasbranch of the military are you in uh over there in Australia and where are you uh like stationed somewhere or are you still in Australia anyways um okay you do uh the deaf studies and Rachel
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)what about you I'm Rachel AKA Mrs Andrew Wilson I'm 4 43 years old stay-at-home mom wife Homemaker researcher author and
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Brian Atlasthe patriarchy gave me a day pass to be here via Andrew so here I am thank look at that day day pass yeah patriarchy is very generous and very benevolent
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Brian Atlasbenevolent Pat I'll be right back to chain to the stove tomorrow okay all right cool so we're going to go around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status
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Brian Atlasso are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polyu sex C terum whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)starting with you go ahead um I'm currently single and I've been single for like 6 months now 6 months longest
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)relationship um I'd say a little over a year and was that the one that ended 6 months ago no that one was a little less
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Brian Atlasthan a year okay why did that relationship end uh I got cheated on okay uh oh
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)orientation what do you uh straight by what am I I'm I'm pansexual pansexual I don't care what you got in between your legs I'm more on like your brain like
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)I'm attracted to your brain I think that's saposexual no it's also pansexual like I don't care if you're like trans I don't care about anything like you know what you identify as so like you'll date a he they she she yeah as long as I'm
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)attracted to them okay all right um what are your pronouns uh any but I go by she her she what do you mean any like I don't care what people call me like well what do you how do you consider yourself
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)I but if I were to sorry if I were to introduce myself I would go by she her okay got it um and the person that you
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)dated 6 months ago was that a bum a a homeless slbm like those are the pronouns yes but I was giving him housing so you know I was doing my part
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TTS/Chat readerfor the community okay and then your one-year relationship was that a a man or a woman uh ripped rich and rare donated $69 Rachel I bet that fat boy grabs your
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TTS/Chat readerbras in the morning you settled for a 10-in arm s with big tits pull up his shirt and tell me you're [ __ ] proud of that [ __ ] I'll smack his fat ass that's crazy who doesn't love a fat ass
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Brian Atlasthough I mean is Andrew watching right now Andrew if you're watching if you're watching shave your arms okay that's right there's like there's this on I
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Brian Atlasthink that's probably a a fan who's just kind of like uh obsessed with his ass just okay so here's like the quick story her husband was on this this live show and then there's this like other guy
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Brian Atlaswho's like this big giant ripped Rich dude and like Andrew is um me and him like we're going to be joining Weight Watchers together you know we we're both
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TTS/Chat readera little on the chunky side right right now right now and uh Eric six donated $69 woman say they are powerless my body was arrested in Houston by SWAT team not
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TTS/Chat readerfitting the description of SAA suspect no evidence whatsoever only the hunch of a female SVU debt and drug addict victim all right Eric G6 thank you for
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TTS/Chat readerthat man appreciate it um sounds like he's process sorry to hear that's uh terrible the underscore Woods donated $69 the fish I cooked an hour ago was
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TTS/Chat readeralso pansexual sizzling with butter lemon and rosemary that's crazy delicious yeah uh so the one-year relationship that was also a man yes
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Brian Atlasokay all right yeah okay uh and why did your uh last relationship end well because he cheated on me sorry the cheating so you end you ended it huh you ended it correct oh yeah no I ended it
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McKenzieokay gotcha what about you uh I'm currently single I've been single for about I don't know like a year and a half now my longest relationship and like only real relationship was about two years two years was that like a high
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Brian Atlasschool relationship yeah it was my Junior and Senior year could we have you scoot into the table just a tad you can scoot the chair in too so you've been single for 1.5 years no no prospects in
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McKenziethe picture um I mean I'm kind of just like going on dates but I'm not like dating anyone just when's the last time you wenton on on the date uh actually last week last week was it the first date second date third date uh first
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TTS/Chat readerdate first date yeah okay and Julie dick sucker donated $69 what do you guys think of black y got y'all are out of pocket tonight the
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Brian AtlasP um bro you got come on man you can't ask [ __ ] ridiculous questions like that uh okay all right move on I'll take this one okay yeah let's hear yeah we'll give
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)it to you we'll pass it to you thank you black pancake nipples are a little disappointing cuz they never taste as sweet as they look you know uh and you know what they say once you go black nipples black pancake nipples it's all
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Brian Atlassaggy from there I thought never go you never go back well well you do you go running back running back after the okay good good to know good to know it's good
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TTS/Chat readerthat someone has experience on that topic okay uh so any other are you U Cloud flying donated $69 brickson looking forward to another
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TTS/Chat readergreat show thank you man you're in the presence greatness a modern day alpha male Brian if he asked you on a date would you accept remember to Bow as his
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Brian Atlasgirlfriend how much did you pay him to say that nothing nothing they $69 they are they are on their own I'm not I don't consider myself an alpha male but but thank you for the uh for
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Brian Atlasthe endorsement there Cloud flying I appreciate it uh okay well I'll ask the girls the question in addition to the large pen one that I already have loaded up God damn y'all are crazy today okay
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Brian Atlasuh would they date me we'll we'll ask that after we get through the relationship status would they okay are you dating multiple guys right now or no no okay so is there
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McKenziegoing to be a second date with this this guy or not uh there actually was a second date we got ice cream yeah C okay so you went on the first date last week and there's going to be a second date soon yeah well we had the second date because I was going out of town so you
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Brian Atlaswanted to see me again before I left and then yeah we you think it's going to go the distance or what do you think uh I mean I hope so I don't know we'll see it's still pretty early all right what
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TTS/Chat readerabout you I'm in a relationship wait weren't you single I was oh wow congrats
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Brian Atlasokay ring Lightman donated 60 9 R guess which girls have plastic surgery sure uh why do you look at me boom boom
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)boom that's it am I right well that's not fair you already knew that well I he still had to guess yeah we talk about what do you think the the people that have got it like got what do you think
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Nick/production (partial)what do they have yeah what do you think fake boobs what no fake fake boobs no no those are yeah real really
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Brian Atlasaugmentation just a good it's just birth control oh yeah or pregnan no okay okay never mind never mind that's yes it's obvious wait what did
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)you think you thought what do you think I had done a boob job fake titties no no I've never got I can't I can't get a boob job I wish I could I have a little lip filler yes
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CarlyI'll be honest on that I do okay all right so you're in a relationship yes so it's this is new this is like what a month two weeks um I mean it's a new relationship I guess but it's the same
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Carlyperson so same same not not a new person I think I think last time I was on I said I'd been single for like six
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Brian Atlasmonths or so so you got back together yeah same same one okay so who who kind of reached back out to
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Brian Atlaswho um I would I would say me probably yeah yeah
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Brian Atlasyes getting stressed out during midterms yeah basically okay all uh what what time of night did you reach back out to him I think it was actually in the
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Carlydaytime oh oh okay yeah I think it I think it was after class actually so you might be on to something with the midterms probably related anyways what
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TTS/Chat readerabout you I'm single okay gig chat 69 donated $69.69 in Western Europe legal
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TTS/Chat readerfor a long time not for for tourism no we did like this a prank video but the integrated life Channel donated $69 ask the women to name three of
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Shakespeare's plays aello Midsummer's Night Dream Romeo and Juliet any other girls know any other
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)ones Hamlet Beth yeah H Julia Caesar taming the Shrew nice bam got cooked so there hell yeah yeah anyways uh single
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)okay I'm single the last time I I was dating someone um about two months ago and um my longest relationship was 3
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Brian Atlasyears how long were you dating the guy two months ago for two months two months two months okay and why did it
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)end um probably cuz he was six years younger than me and so there was just you know there was what uh I think
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that we were just in different places in our life he and and personality differences okay and
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)um how did you guys meet we met at church we I was in a I was doing a singleness F we have been in the same church and like for the past two years and then it was kind of like we were at
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Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)this party and it was kind of like the scales came off our eyes and we were like oh you're interesting and yeah now before the show I heard you saying
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Brian AtlasRachel's book Ault feminism wait so there I'm assuming like is there the Army the Navy um just cares which branch
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Brian Atlasum thank you man appreciate it man uh so you said you were somewhere four times are you willing to disclose on the
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)nips okay good talk um what about you your relationship status I am in a committed relationship uh I think my longest relationship I was
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)married for 4 years that ended because he was a malcontent person who could not go without starting a fight for no
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)reason and I good yes yes I just got fed up so uh you guys got a divorce I'm assuming correct okay how long have you been seeing your current uh partner uh
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Riley May Lewisabout four months four months all right okay what about you I am in a fully committed one-sided open relationship
00:23:44
Riley May Lewisyeah I'm in a fully I'm in a fully committed one-sided open relationship on his side so you're monotonous he's sleeping with other Mike Davis donated
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TTS/Chat reader$69 Davis I'm organizing a private Charter plane abroad for men to meet beautiful traditional women who will treat you like a king Western women are so screwed up and there's no reset
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)button do one in chat for a seat what do these people think the women in Europe I'm from Europe by the way I was born in Montenegro and uh you're going to get a handful buddy you're not going to be
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Brian Atlasable to handle them so good luck The Mont well I'm Albanian from Mont Mr bated 6 thank you Mike Davis for the message man I'll Jo you Mike DAV greetings to
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TTS/Chat readerthe whatever part y thank you Brian for the autographed blue white cup keeping weing certificate of authenticity for record keeping request
00:24:39
Brian Atlasyeah it's going to be two Wilsons one cup uh they're going to get one of these cups I'm sending it back with with Rachel I feel like we need to you know get some some uh you know the they could get damaged you want to maybe get some
00:24:52
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)insurance on the cup just saying when you go back I guess so they're ripped rich and rare hard to get a hold of so wait uh yeah would you like me to say it again yeah so how long have you been in
00:25:05
Riley May Lewisthe relationship for um I've been in that relationship for a little bit over a year now year and open on his end closed on your end yes so do you guys have like three Sims
00:25:17
Brian Atlasor not even that oh God I don't know um I if if that possibility were to arise um which it could have wait what do you mean you don't know no wouldn't you know if
00:25:29
Riley May Lewisyou're having fre or not can you explain what it is again yes I am in a fully committed one-sided open relationship on his side so he is allowed so he [ __ ] other women she she can't [ __ ] men he is
00:25:41
Riley May Lewisallowed to get with anyone and I am not allowed to get with anyone why why do you what draws you to that well like he he is a very high value man I knew
00:25:52
Riley May Lewisyou were going to [ __ ] say that I [ __ ] knew you he's a high value man he is he's a high value man sure what what are the qualities like he he provides for me in every single way he
00:26:03
Riley May Lewiskeeps my life extremely entertaining yes he's Rich he's attractive he checks every single box that a girl could possibly want and every girl goes for a man that's in the top 1% and there's not
00:26:15
Brian Atlasthat much to go around so if you're going to have to he's but you have to virtual strip I choose to do that yeah that's a good question like I I choose to do it but like what is the benefit of him
00:26:27
Brian Atlasbeing rich if you have to doing only fans no no no I don't have to be doing only fans but like what benefits like does he pay for [ __ ] yeah he pays for all of my stuff he pays for everything he pays for everything rent you live with him no I don't live with him oh so he'll pay he
00:26:41
Riley May Lewispay he pays for my rent he pays for everything and you're loyal to him I'm loyal to him 100% loyal okay what are you doing with the rest of your money are you investing I am investing there
00:26:50
Brian Atlaswe go good times so do does is he open about it though he's like hey Riley just letting you know I'm going to go double team some girls tonight he always tells I'll be back later tonight honey no he
00:27:03
Brian Atlashe always tells me he tells me everything it we're very open about it at least I think he tells me everything do you need like a like a 24-hour period like if like if he goes out and smashes other girls like you you're going to
00:27:14
Riley May Lewiswait 24 hours before you smash him um no no there there's no like 24-hour period um I I'm pretty understanding to it as long as there's like not too much of an
00:27:26
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)emotional connection do you feel what like when he goes out with a girl do you feel some type of way about it like honestly like do you feel kind of like damn I wish he didn't even though you've accepted it you're you're cool with it
00:27:38
Riley May Lewiswe get that but like Hur all I'm definitely cool with it in every sense and I mean there's a reason why he's doing it there's a reason why I also agree to it um I mean of course like
00:27:50
Riley May Lewisyou're always going to be like you know there's always going to be like a little bit of upsetness I don't know but like it's not it's you have to understand like why he is able to do that and can I
00:27:59
Riley May Lewisask how old he is um no older no he's very similar to my age but I just don't I just don't want to put that information out there sure
00:28:13
Brian Atlascool I I was just reading a message that Rachel sent me okay um won't get into that though wait so okay so how frequently is he getting involved with
00:28:24
Riley May Lewisother wom like once a week I'm I'm not speaking for recently um but in the
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Riley May Lewispast I I actually I I probably shouldn't be saying this saying what I like I don't know I just it kind of sounds like you're
00:28:43
Brian Atlasbullshitting um I would I would say probably kind sounds like [ __ ] God I don't know I just your friend's laughing she knows it's [ __ ] she knows it's [ __ ] look she just gave it life [ __ ] terrible terrible poker face I
00:28:55
Brian Atlasdon't know anything know anything about their private Liv so like I'm wait are you guys uh like roommates housemates you guys live together we're friends friends okay good I'm glad that you have a friend this time yeah I'm
00:29:08
Gaanahappy for you me too okay anyways uh what about you I'm currently in a relationship and my longest relationship is 2 years two years is that your current one no okay
00:29:20
Gaanahow long's your current situation been going on we've been dating for almost about five months five months all right how did you guys meet
00:29:29
Gaanawell I've known him since I was like much younger so but I hit him up once like Mike Davis donated
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TTS/Chat reader$69 to the midg girl who spoke out of turn no planes going to degenerate Europe planes going to countries with beautiful African queens and Russia Ukraine where the ratio is good yeah
00:29:52
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)chat they're going to eat you alive for sure bro when you going to a cannibal African country have fun with
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Brian Atlasthat what Brian's C donated $69 c one of the girls he's getting with is the brunette there's a lot of brunettes at this table there's a couple
00:30:11
Brian Atlasbrunettes here okay thank you man uh wait so Nick can you pull up quick a photo of Mike Davis he meant her friend oh is that why she's like I don't
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Brian Atlasknow anything I don't nothing oh like her boyfriend is I pick on that she is the John Wick by the way just FYI for TTS is if there's like any
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Brian Atlascursing it's it won't trigger the robot voice she is the John Wick of slay
00:30:40
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)erect D who I think he's talking about me you're the John Wick well of slaying
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Brian Atlaserect meaning I make people make men lose their boners oh you you oh I talk down to them apparently I thought it was funny wait can we pull up a photo of Mike Davis there he is That's Mike
00:31:02
Brian AtlasDavis if any of you in the chat want to go with him on his airplane one in the chat any passport Pros out there one in the chat he owns like 200 burglar Kings
00:31:14
Brian Atlason the East Coast very wealthy man giant PE PE we can tell by the photo the the wealthy part or the giant peee part no I
00:31:26
Brian Atlasthought he worked at Burger King oh the working at Burger King part yeah I did think that all right what about wait hold on I think I was asking how you met your boyfriend oh you you said like you guys knew each other like from school or
00:31:38
Gaanawhatever like yeah well we didn't go to the same school but like uh same soccer team like the club like I was on Club yeah what about you um so I got out of a
00:31:47
Raikarelationship about 2 weeks ago mhm and before that relationship was like 2 months and before that I was in like a oneyear situationship one ofended really badly
00:31:59
Raikabecause he didn't want to date me and I did and you know I tried to move on quick and date this new guy but honestly I just didn't have any feelings for him so it was like not going anywhere and after 2 months I just ended it cuz it
00:32:11
Brian Atlaswas not working out so a couple clarifying questions here you've been single for 2 weeks two weeks ago you ended it with a guy you were seeing for about 2 months correct but during that two-month period with that guy you were
00:32:22
Brian Atlasstill hung up on the one-year situationship guy unfortunately yes okay do you think there were issues in your most recent situation because you were hung up on guy number one from the one
00:32:35
Raikayear situation that was definitely like all of it yeah okay well and the fact that he was like really into social media like more so than me which one the most recent guy or the the most recent guy my my like yeah my boyfriend my ex
00:32:48
Brian Atlasis it was this guy you're in New York right now right yeah he's from New York yeah okay so you're dating he's really into social media is he a content creator yeah he's like some Instagram model
00:32:58
Brian Atlasyeah he's an IG model yeah should red flag exactly I should do does he do like uh what's the term for like print what's
00:33:09
Brian Atlasthe term for well there's like the guy Instagram guys but he actually like the there's the models who do like print work I guess I don't know Calvin Klein oh no no he's like a not famous model
00:33:22
Brian Atlaswhich is like even worse he's not successful like 13k oh okay all right well yeah Instagram okay yeah I'll I'll I'll adjust in just a sec uh guys if you want two more
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Brian Atlasminutes on the 69 then I'm going to bump it so wait okay you were in a situationship for one year yes was it here in Santa Barbara yes was it long and it wasn't long distance right you
00:33:47
Brian Atlasboth lived in Santa Barbara yeah we lived here we met here yeah and when you say situationship so at no point in the relationship did you refer to each other as boyfriend girlfriend no I mean I would call him my boyfriend
00:33:58
Brian Atlassometimes to other people or to him to other people okay but you guys never had an overt conversation about like a title or are we exclusive yeah yeah we had the
00:34:09
Raikaconversation and he told me that he doesn't believe in titles and he didn't want to be exclusive because he wanted to be with multiple women how soon into the situationship did you guys have that
00:34:20
Brian Atlasconversation two months into it okay so two months into it he overly states he doesn't want a title and he doesn't want want to be exclusive yeah he and then and then you proceeded to
00:34:30
Raikastay with him for 10 months I did yes I I went back to him many times oh so it was on again off again yes cuz I kept trying to leave Chad Lou [ __ ] donated
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TTS/Chat reader$69 Miss Joan is lying about her age she was born June 29th 1984 her partner is FTM trans whose
00:34:49
TTS/Chat readernumerous Mexican children are crisis actors just like the Obamas ji hanu man Jen gun cigar is it is a troll uh yeah
00:34:59
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)100% a troll but I I do like uh female to male trans you know cuz that's your type 100% yeah yeah and I I try to get some Mexican children so that your
00:35:10
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)panexual sure like her no I'm super straight dude I don't like and this guy wants to troll I'll troll him right back imagine spending $69 and writing a loser troll like that damn roasted okay um
00:35:23
Brian Atlasback to you wait so so when you first had the conversation of I want a title I want to be exclusive he said no did you end it right then and there yeah I was like
00:35:34
TTS/Chat readerwell I can't keep doing this any more if you're going to do that Mr bulad donated $69 orders from the grand Inquisitor to the lady wearing the lead Zeppelin
00:35:44
TTS/Chat readert-shirt you are not authorized to wear a t-shirt with that band name please change into one with music appropriate for your age wait question can you name one lead Zeppelin I was really scared wearing this guys I'm I'm not going to
00:35:58
Raikalie because I knew you were going to ask that um this is one of my ex-boyfriends so he was like really into guitar I feel like it's a Sentimental piece I have and it was like fitting for today so the answer is no so you don't know I love
00:36:11
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)how you knew they were going to ask that question and you didn't come prepared with one you could just she's you could have Googled finish finish the sentence I'm not going to lie stairway what hold on this is I'm giving you a
00:36:23
Brian Atlaslayup here Stairway to to Heaven St away to Heaven you got you gave her the two though she needed some help okay yeah it's okay
00:36:36
Brian Atlaswait so okay you broke up with the guy you broke up with him and then so but then you got back together how soon thereafter like a week later because now but who reached back out to
00:36:47
Nick/production (partial)who I reached out to him so you dumped him but then oh man you got you got uh dick whipped y you're dick Whi
00:36:59
Brian Atlaswait so okay so you and then cuz in let me ask in your mind it was better to have him in your life even if without commitment than to be without him
00:37:10
Raikaexactly yeah cuz he was also my best friend and we were like living in my car together so it was a it was a tough
00:37:17
Raikasituation huh H so you were homeless I was in like living in the dorms and we had been kicked out of the dorms so we
00:37:28
Raikawere living in the UCSB dorms oh God wait what how did why did you get kicked out of the dorms what did you do my roommate reported me for like 13 different things and after the 13th
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TTS/Chat readerthing they were like get the [ __ ] out of here so wait what so cable donated $69 get lead Zeppelin chick some cough drops like your
00:37:49
Brian Atlaswoo cough drops her voice sounds fine to he's saying she has a vocal fry does she oh do little little bit a little bit no weird I don't I think her voice sounds
00:38:00
Brian Atlasfun um accent and a vocal fry she's southern accent come on guys leave me alone how did you like what was like the main reasons you got kicked out of the dorm
00:38:13
Raikaum HTH I can't put it on the internet yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry I don't want to answer
00:38:22
Brian Atlasthat wait can you give us like a theme like drug related fire related pyro related I mean okay I guess smuggling related partying and boy
00:38:34
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)related she was having sex with him in the dorm is that against the rules well if the roommate doesn't want to see it dorms don't have any separation like you just have two there's like three
00:38:47
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)people in in a room yeah typically there's a little I had a roommate who did that she slept with a different guy every night so I would try to go out and I would just see an ass in the air and i' be like like I'm going back you open the
00:38:58
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)door there's no door it's just four beds in an open room and I put up a bookshelf so I would wouldn't have to see it and then sometimes I'd have to go to the bathroom so I'd be going out and I just see a new ass in the air and I'm like
00:39:10
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)all right I'm going to hold it college sometimes I would just walk by and slam the door and be like just so you know you're a [ __ ]
00:39:20
Brian Atlasyeah got to talk about women in college College college okay damn I feel like it takes a lot to get kicked out of the dorms my roommate called the cops on
00:39:31
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)me yeah that got me out where where did you where did you end up um technically like outside of my door like I had to sit out on the lawn for a little bit put you in the timeout
00:39:43
Brian Atlasokay wait so going back to you you were living in your car was it like what kind of car was it like a Volkswagen bug or what are we talking it was a
00:39:53
Brian AtlasCadillac that seems pretty Spacey yeah it was it was like a smaller SUV catalog how long were you guys living in the car for like 3 months you didn't try to find like a like a local
00:40:06
Raikaapartment here in Santa Barbara or something well no that would have like costed money that I didn't have at the moment you know like all I had was my car okay so you guys were roughing it a
00:40:17
Raikalittle bit yeah we were dirty as [ __ ] it was nasty I'm in a much better place now don't worry she looks so innocent I wasn't I was everyone say I have a baby face I'm like y'all don't know y'all
00:40:30
Brian Atlasdon't know it's been crazy you put her in the wrong chair I know [ __ ] okay wait so hold on okay how many times was it on again off again with the guy and were you both
00:40:41
TTS/Chat readerliving in the car during an off it was leore Zeppelins uncore nelore cavity donated $69 like you're like where's my vente
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Brian Atlasmocka frappucino like your y y thank you man thank you appreciate it it's okay was there an off again period while you guys were living in the
00:41:04
Raikacar together yeah it was it was really awkward because I came back one night and found like we had you know kept all of our like bottles of alcohol and stuff and I came back and all of my stuff all
00:41:15
Raikamy alcohol and drugs at the time were gone and he had dirty condoms laying all over the car there was girls panties in my back seat wait other girls panties
00:41:32
Brian Atlasyeah yeah stop it get holy [ __ ] wait so okay uh I wow I don't even know what to say
00:41:45
Brian Atlasdamn that's crazy I think she was dating my ex-husband there you go maybe yeah wait did he go to UCSB or yeah were you both freshman at the time yeah at the
00:41:56
Brian Atlastime okay yeah and wait so was he in your same cuz there's like different dorm buildings at UCSB was he in the same dorm as you like not the same room as you but like the same dorm he yeah he was in the dorm don't say the dorm don't
00:42:08
Raikasay the dorm won I won't he was in the dorm right next to me yeah okay and wait was it like the beach side ones yeah it was it was the ones right
00:42:19
Brian Atlason the okay those ones yeah yeah um so he but so you got kicked out because of stuff you were doing in your room was he like doing stuff in his cuz he got
00:42:31
TTS/Chat readerkicked out too or he got like warning after warning he didn't officially get like kicked out until the end Mike Davis donated $69 thank Mike Davis let zein really be talking like she's the main
00:42:43
TTS/Chat readercharacter at girl fellas this is your fault for validating fours like that I'm about leave you on the runway if you'll keep enabling this okay next thank you
00:42:53
Brian AtlasMike Davis no actually I just want to say Mike Davis is Savage today holy [ __ ] yeah he's uh Mike Dave don't take it personally guys we got a lot of Roasters in the chat they like to roast don't take it personally it's all good fun uh actually do want to commend you for
00:43:06
Brian Atlasbeing like totally forthcoming and honest with all the stuff because uh that's interesting so just getting back to the relationship Dynamic type stuff so how many times would you say it was
00:43:15
Raikaon again off again like more than I could count more than 10 times yeah okay and every time was it you ending it no like there were many times where he would be like we should shouldn't do
00:43:27
Raikathis anymore because I obviously don't want anything serious with you and you do and this is like not going to keep working out and then I just kept going back being like I want to [ __ ] cuz I like
00:43:37
Brian Atlasyou I love the honesty this honesty is great so wait so he would um so sometimes you would end it sometimes he would end it but was it more often than
00:43:48
Brian Atlasnot even if he would end it you would be the one going back yeah like you try to reinitiate yeah okay like I'm saying and all this cuz I would never do that now and so like how would that work like during the homeless
00:44:00
Raikaperiod would you like drive by the homeless encampment to try to find him or like no we weren't homeless like we were like in the dorm parking lot like just like chilling in the car most of the time and with like going to the
00:44:11
Raikadorms to shower like it wasn't okay it wasn't terrible living we what did your parents think of you getting kicked out of the DMS no they were very disappointed you know I have a very tough relationship with my parents okay
00:44:24
Brian Atlasand uh and so okay you dated this guy for one year was on Sir I've been talking for a while you should move to the next person I'll get I'll move it on in a little bit I just want to get a few more
00:44:35
Brian Atlasclarifying questions in so uh are you still in touch with this guy yeah he's like one of my best friends wait so have
00:44:45
Brian Atlasyou seen him recently in person yeah have you seen did you see him today no did you see him yesterday no I just got here yesterday oh you just got back from cuz you're here for like a week yeah
00:44:58
Brian Atlasokay and then you're going back to New York mhm okay so you're here are you planning to meet up with him while you're here yes in your Cadillac or what what kind of car was it no I I sold my car
00:45:10
Brian Atlasactually oh you sold your car does he have housing or is he homeless still no he he lives in a house now oh he's got a house okay good all right and he's a third you said you're a third or going into so he's a second year yeah we're
00:45:23
Brian Atlasboth going to be third years all right do you still love him yeah I do did he ever wait did you would you tell him I love you yeah I would right now did well no no but like have you told him I love
00:45:35
Brian Atlasyou yes I have I've told him I love you many times did he ever say I love you yes okay yeah so but he never was willing to give you commitment or a title correct yeah
00:45:46
Raikacuz he wasn't in love with me like he loved
00:45:51
Brian Atlasme word okay well we'll come back to that maybe later uh what about you um I'm in a
00:46:02
Nicolerelationship I just got into a relationship not that long ago um and my longest doors please my longest relationship was 9 months in high school
00:46:12
Nicoleso so one month ago you got into one um it was it was not that long ago I don't really remember how long ago it was recently this is a couple weeks yeah yeah longest relationship 9 months 9
00:46:23
Brian Atlasmonths yeah all right uh how did you meet this current guy guy um at church what denomination are you I'm Catholic Catholic okay all right and
00:46:34
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Rachel what about you uh I've been in a relationship for 17 years with the legend Andrew uh we've been married for 12 and since I already see my haters my very dedicated and committed haters
00:46:46
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)sending super chats yes let's just address the elephant in the room I have children with my two previous relationships so people assume things right
00:46:57
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)people make assumptions I have uh crazy trolls who've made all kinds of videos uh saying wild nutty things uh so I just want to clear this up I've never been
00:47:07
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)promiscuous ever in my life I've been in three long-term committed relationships to marriages uh there was never any catting around I've never cheated on anybody
00:47:20
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)ever in my life Andrew was not married and cheating on some person with me like people have made up the craziest stuff so it's not even like that but we can get into that if people just have to
00:47:30
Brian Atlasknow about what happened in my life 23 years ago but no been with Andrew only for 17 years all right by the way guys we have just boosted the uh re and TTS triggers back up to the normal so thank
00:47:42
Brian Atlasyou for everybody who got those early ones in so wow okay we got everybody's current relationship status so I want to see if there's anything I wanted to uh
00:47:53
Brian Atlaswait actually question coming back to you yeah you said you've been single for two weeks have you had a rebound from the two-month guy are you talking to me no not talking to you okay yeah oh wait what sorry what did you say you've been
00:48:07
Brian Atlassingle for two weeks have you had a rebound no I haven't I haven't hooked up with anyone yeah and I wanted to come let's see to actually let me just get
00:48:16
Brian Atlasinto my pre-show notes here and then let me pull that up guys so we have let's go to Leonardo you were
00:48:28
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)a former feminist correct and now you're a current anti-feminist I don't know I I'm a I'm a hardcore conspiracy theorist and I realize the truth about a lot of
00:48:39
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)propaganda that's being fed both both to feminists and the red pill male Community which is the male version of
00:48:48
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)feminism um and then I see the repercussions of that on women uh even here right because they they teach them
00:48:57
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)a lot of BS yeah who's they um I women studies Department feminist well I think Communists have taken over our whole system I think they've taken over the
00:49:07
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)university system they've taken over the media for sure they put they push promiscuity degeneracy uh as Liberation and the only ones who benefit off of women freely
00:49:19
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)giving away sex are deadbeat guys who do not want to give you anything they just want to take so your guy in the is a verifiable loser who will probably never
00:49:30
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)do anything with his life will continue to grift on women he was hanging around cuz he had a free ride with you and he gave you just enough to keep you interested I've known these men in my life I've seen it for women and I try to
00:49:42
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)do my best to tell young women that they're under the thumb of Oppression even though it's being presented to them as Liberation yes let's go that was
00:49:54
Carlygreat oh you're not all supposed to you're supposed to fight with us well I think you disagree she will fight with us I do disagree not with the premise I do I would agree with everything you
00:50:06
Carlysaid about this guy although you are 19 years old and I feel like that that's just a classic 19-year-old experience I don't know what that has to do with feminism classic well I'll tell you right now it's a
00:50:19
TTS/Chat readermotor2 Mrs Wilson F the haters you owe no one any explanations and your haters will never believe you anyway your actions speak louder than any words they
00:50:30
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)can scream blessing to you and Andrew thank you grid one I appreciate you man good to see you in the chat grid one go ahead with your point so what that has to do with feminism first of all it's not a common 19-year-old experience it's
00:50:43
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)presented as a common 19-year-old experience and it's relatively new in our Modern Age and you really want to say probably since the mid 90s early 2000s and that's really when this whole promiscuity with women's been pushed second of all the reason it has has to
00:50:56
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)do with feminism is because feminism teaches women that having casual sex with a man is within their uh scope of being equal and on par with men and by being that way they are liberated and
00:51:08
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)empowered which is total BS whereas women have known for centuries that their sex was of huge value and would demand something in return from that that would actually show them their
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Carlyworth yes so that's exactly what it has to do with feminism I don't think that I have ever heard that from from I'm current when did you graduate college like what year
00:51:33
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)2012 okay so it's been a while since you've been in college so I'm not sure corre like I didn't have this in my college education by the way I went to a Jesuit university that was pretty fantastic and did not give me this BS I
00:51:46
Carlywas going to say I mean I'm currently in college for a little bit too long and I have never heard any of this from any professors I've never heard any of this from my peers heard what exactly
00:51:57
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)that casual sex is empowering and um you don't watch TV you don't see it on social media you don't hear it in in the music you don't hear cardi B and what's her face being like my wet ass I'll give
00:52:08
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you cardi B Maybe music maybe like rap I mean that's the culture what does that reflective of the fact that that's in the mainstream means it's been accepted by people they could have never put that on TV I mean women accepting pretty
00:52:20
Carlybrutal treatment from men pre feminism would you we can get into that we can get I'm sure I my parents are old my parents are 65 and 75 I know I know what
00:52:30
Carlywas happening in the 50s 60s '70s ' 80s '90s like from your from the perspective of your two parents you're going to generalize to the whole population my parents have friends I mean are you going to generalize the population from
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Carlyher experience with a bum like no not at all I'm generalizing from Reading I also read I and I am currently in college and I'm telling you that no one I know who's a soci major I don't know any feminist studies Majors but none of them are
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)hearing this there I've never encountered a communist Prof say they're not are your friends engaging in casual hookups no not my friends not your friends but are women on campus engaging in casual hookups undoubtedly and they
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)were also doing that in the '90s ' 80s '70s even the' 60s and the 50s you're talking about the sexual Revolution right me yeah well I mean that is when the sexual Revolution was happening
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Carlyright so I'm talking pre feminism do you know when feminism started do I know like the there is no no you don't have to know the around let's like yeah we go go ahead go ahead I was going to
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Carlysay like I would say like as an actual political movement probably like the early 1900s late 1800s but I think so you're talking about the right to vote Yes No not just that but I mean like having an I having a sort of like
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Carlypolitical Consciousness that women are lacking something politically and like trying to think was like John Adam's wife don't forget the ladies like that kind of stuff has been around for a long
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)long time right and this sexual ual push to make women be more promiscuous do you know when that really started I mean if we're talking about like the sexual Revolution I would say probably late 60s 770s right so that would be the whole
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Carlytime period that you were saying that women were engaging in casual no women were engaging in casual sex before the sexual Revolution I think that was the push was more to normalize it and I'm not saying that I think that it's a good
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)thing I really don't but you don't see the connection to feminism with that that's what you're saying no obviously the sexual Revolution is connected to feminism I'm saying that casual was happening before that right but you don't on a mass scale you don't see the
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)push between casual sex and women I mean there is a low Consciousness among women these days about what they can command in exchange with a man it's incredible I I would agree with that honestly I I do
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)I see your point there I think that women accept subpar treatment constantly but I don't think it's feminism I think it's 100% the consequence of feminism which is ironic but again I think we live in a satanic world that presents everything upside down from the the
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)opposite of what it is so they present to you feminism as your Liberation and your uh empowerment and it ends up doing the exact opposite just curious who you think they is like do you think every
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)woman looks to cardi B and Megan the stallion for their like guiding morals it's pervasive it's everywhere you put on reality TV they're doing it you put on the Kardashians they're doing you put on music they're talking about it you
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)put on rap music they're talking about it you put on any it's all over you put on even like I don't know what it's called the the white people music where they're like playing I don't know it's all it's all really sad they're all depressed all the Coffee House Music
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)stuff like that they're talking about the same stuff you know and and so it's pervasive like when you are swimming in the water you cannot see it but it is every once you start to see it you see it everywhere and it's pretty disgusting well I have a question super based by
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Nicolethe way go ahead my question is what would be an effective counter movement because it seems like you're saying that um women are being oppressed so wouldn't a movement for women's actual Liber I don't I think women are oppressing
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Nicolethemselves I think that's see that's the best thing a demon can do is get you to hurt yourself and harm yourself yeah so wouldn't we want to elevate um women's conscious about that like social
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Nicoleconscious about that and what would be like in my opinion I think you know feminism has changed over time correct and I think it I think it would be a really effective movement to take back
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Nicolefeminism because I feel like you guys agree on a lot of the stuff about casual sex isn't beneficial for women and um an effective way to communicate that to women is to say I'm a feminist I