Rachel Wilson DEBATES Feminists! GOTH GIRL! Fake VlRGlN?! E-GIRLS! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #165

Date: 2024-05-29

Duration: 6h 55m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCeleste X (DT165)>

MMcKenzie (DT165)>

CCarly (DT165)>

JJulia (DT165)>

LLeonardo (DT165)>

RRiley May Lewis (DT165)>

GGaana (DT165)>

RRaika (DT165)>

NNicole (DT165)>

RRachel Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Riley May Lewis(guest)

SPEAKER_04Raika(guest)

SPEAKER_05Nicole(guest)

SPEAKER_07Leonardo/Julia (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_08McKenzie(guest)

SPEAKER_12Gaana(guest)

SPEAKER_13Carly(guest)

SPEAKER_14Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteRachel Wilson introduces herself as 'Mrs Andrew Wilson' with patriarchy day pass joke

“Rachel Wilson: 'I'm Rachel AKA Mrs Andrew Wilson, I'm 43 years old, stay-at-home mom, wife, homemaker, researcher, author — and the patriarchy gave me a day pass to be here via Andrew.' Brian: 'Patriarchy is very generous and benevolent.'”

QuoteRiley May Lewis describes her one-sided open relationship

“Riley: 'I am in a fully committed one-sided open relationship — on his side.' Brian: 'So you're monogamous, he's sleeping with other [women]?' Riley: 'He is allowed to get with anyone and I am not allowed to get with anyone.'”

QuoteRiley justifies one-sided open arrangement with 'high value man' rationale

“Riley: 'He's a very high value man... he provides for me in every single way... he checks every single box a girl could possibly want and every girl goes for a man that's in the top 1% and there's not that much to go around.'”

Key MomentRaika describes year-long situationship where she lived in his car

“Raika: 'He told me he doesn't believe in titles and he didn't want to be exclusive because he wanted to be with multiple women... I kept trying to leave [but went back many times]... he was also my best friend and we were like living in my car together.'”

Key MomentLeonardo gives anti-feminist speech to panel

“Leonardo: 'I try to do my best to tell young women that they're under the thumb of Oppression even though it's being presented to them as Liberation.' Carly responds that she's never heard this in college. Extended debate begins.”

QuoteLeonardo claims Gloria Steinem was in the CIA

“Leonardo: 'Feminism as it is was constructed by the CIA with Gloria Steinem — she was in the CIA. It's very well documented.' He also argues James Bond novels were written by an intelligence officer as a CIA psyop promoting promiscuity.”

QuoteRating round: Brian rates himself a 5

“Brian (host): 'I get myself a five' after guests go around with ratings ranging from 5-7.5.”

Key MomentRachel Wilson's hostile Miami trip story

“Rachel Wilson describes flying to Miami to meet a Hinge match she'd already met in DC; he was immediately hostile upon her arrival ('I can't believe I let a stranger into my house'), they were stuck in a monsoon. She left early.”

QuoteRachel Wilson discloses sex trafficking at ages 18-19 (attributed to Celeste SPEAKER_14)

“Celeste X: 'I was sex trafficked at like 18 and 19... it was like prostitute but was it voluntary... no... the last time was more voluntary because I thought I was going into porn.' Prompted by body count question.”

QuoteCeleste X reveals body count is 50+ due to sex trafficking history

“Celeste: 'I don't really know what my body count is to be honest... it's over 50.' Brian: '50 to 60 or something like that?' Celeste: 'Yeah... I was sex trafficked at 18 and 19.' Panel reacts with empathy.”

QuoteRiley May Lewis claims essentially-virgin body count

“Brian: 'Body count... less than five?' Riley: 'Under five.' Brian: 'Is it zero?' Riley: 'Under five. Zero.' Friend Carly/Gaana laughs. Riley: 'Stop the cap... that's why I stick to anal sex.' Brian: 'I won't even... that like scares me for real.'”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and announcements

Brian's standard intro and announcements. All 10 guests (8 female + Leonardo) introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian asks follow-up questions on content type, tic disorder (McKenzie), relationship with Andrew Wilson (Rachel).

Relationship status round

Round-robin relationship status: single/relationship/situationship, longest relationships, recent breakups. Deep dives into Riley's one-sided open arrangement, Raika's 1-year situationship, Carly getting back together with ex during midterms.

Feminism debate: CIA psyop and sexual Revolution

Primary ongoing debate throughout show. Rachel Wilson and Leonardo argue feminism is a CIA psychological operation (Gloria Steinem/CIA); James Bond as male promiscuity psyop; Communist infiltration of universities. Nicole argues for co-opting feminist label via Catholic framework. Carly disputes conspiracy framing, defends her college experience. Multiple rounds across the show.

Abortion and reproductive rights debate

Extended debate on abortion rights, paper abortion (legal paternal surrender), unilateral reproductive decisions. Brian argues men should have a legal paternal surrender equivalent if women have unilateral abortion access. Rachel argues secular society replaced religion with political ideology. Carly defends current legal status.

Trans issues and gender as social construct

Debate triggered by question 'is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?' Nicole defends social construct framework for gender vs. sex; Rachel and Leonardo argue biological reality; Rachel argues feminists opened the door to trans ideology via Margaret Fuller (1800s gender spectrum writings).

Self-ratings round

Stiffler TTS asks panel to rate their looks 1-10. Rapid responses (mixed diarization): range of 5-11 (one joke '11'). Brian rates himself a 5. Discussion of humility vs confidence in self-ratings.

Egirl/trad-girl online culture discussion

Discussion of right-wing e-girl Twitter drama; Rachel Wilson's post about e-girl trad culture attracted attacks from competing e-girls. Leonardo and Rachel discuss the phenomenon of e-girls positioning themselves as conservative content creators.

Bear vs. man in the woods

Classic debate question: would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear in the woods? Brian asks each guest. Brian follows with: 'If you answer bear, is your answer racist?' Discussion of whether the question has racial implications.

Rachel Wilson Miami trip and singleness fast

Rachel Wilson tells story: met man on Hinge, had met in DC already, he flew her to Miami but instantly became hostile upon her arrival; stuck during monsoon; she slept in same bed while he was mean. Triggered a 70-day singleness fast and 'Encounter With Jesus.' Led to dating a 6-years-younger man briefly.

Bumble swiping segment

Each guest sets an age range then swipes 20 male Bumble profiles. Most guests rejected 18-20/20 profiles. Raika said yes to 1-2 (car Kink, Wranglers). Celeste said yes to 5-6. Rachel's range: 30-45. Discussion of why women are so selective on dating apps.

Body count round

Brian asks everyone's body count at end of show. Celeste X: 50+ (complicated by sex trafficking at 18-19). Under 5: Gaana/Riley area. Riley claims essentially 0 (anal only); friend Gaana visibly skeptical. Rachel: very low, can count on one hand. Brian: won't disclose. Celeste discloses sex trafficking history in detail.

Transcript

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Riley May Lewisthis point I'm good I'm curious promiscuous content just her quoting Andrew Tate I'm just saying it's it's not it's not looking down at a woman to want her

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)to take care of her kids be a good wife be I have an only fans too and I just read I read Ted kazinsky books and tell everybody what a s they

Riley May Lewisare no I don't have but that's what it would be if I did you can find her at the raven haired Elder thank you that's right but so why why don't you support somebody like Andrew Tate because you seem to I'll tell very similar values to

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)what he supports I'll tell you why and the reason is because Orthodox Christianity and my opinion is the thing that gives women the value um and when we talk about equality I don't like the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)word but if you want women in a high position where they are venerated as mothers and wives Orthodox Christianity the Christianity of the first thousand years is what did that in the Pagan

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)World there was no such thing that didn't exist correct Christianity is the first thing that introduced that now Tate was on a path to Orthodoxy his brother I think is now I believe well

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)his brother definitely Christian he's Muslim right and and Islam I think is uh demonic heresy uh don't go to any Muslim countries they going to kill you I know the views expressed the views expressed

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)by the whatever P panelist podcast panelists do not necessarily reflect the views of right the whatever podcast so like that's my opinion on it and this whole like uh having you know all these

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Sister Wives and a herum and all this sort of thing um putting women in burkas is actually not I don't believe in that's toxic masculinity right there that's what everybody everybody that's

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)your objection with Andrew T is his religion okay well I don't even know if I buy that he's religious but his world viiew I think the reason he picked Islam is because he likes that worldview okay so he says he even though

Brian Atlashe's doing a bunch of anyways I'm not really interested in talking about Andrew Tate to be to be honest but you want to make a different argument no I'm just saying that like it if we all listen to him everything would be fine that's crazy

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)sorry that's crazy what's crazy that if we listen to Andrew Tate that everything that if we listen to Andrew Tate everything would be fine like that's just [ __ ] crazy like you don't even

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)it's just it doesn't make sense coming from someone like you especially coming from me that does you don't know me you don't know anything about me you probably don't even know my name do you know my name I don't know your I know you do only fans that I know that's something that he looks down on it it

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)just doesn't he actually says that he doesn't look down saying the kitchen and stuff like that you need to get the dick out your mouth bro like honestly you got the dick in your mouth wait figuratively or

Riley May Lewisliterally you got Andrew tape's dick shaft and balls would you [ __ ] Andrew tape speaking what do you mean what you got to ask that question I am 100% loyal to my boyfriends who's Andrew Tate yeah

Riley May Lewiswait what apparently I 100% your boyfriend give you a pass to like smash Andrew tap absolutely not absolutely not you were single would you then I I don't want to talk about that disrespectful would you

Carlygive your boyfriend a pass to smash Andrew Tate he would not do that because he's not gay oh okay he's not gay yet a lot of kind of gay oh boy okay all right this is just

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)an extended advertisement for her only fans I hope everyone is enjoying it she's she's helping PE she's helping it's a charity really we have a chat here the real

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)natch wait actually like the M isn't that the Minecraft guy anyways can I can I have you read that okay men who are great in all departments all like multiple women they settle down with one

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)but they will always want a variety for sex that's true wom in Black sounds bitter is that me or that's me that's me I'm the bitter one okay I already told

Brian Atlasyou I have a disease um could we run it back oh I I wasn't quick enough I'll just read it it was just promiscuity promiscuity doesn't affect a man sure that's what he said

Riley May LewisI've seen it I mean if he gets herpes it would affect it affects their ability to bond as well doesn't Okay because men men don't have emotional sex unless it's maybe not we

Brian Atlaswere talking about this [ __ ] last show I actually disagree like if a guy [ __ ] enough women he's you're familiar with the term Alpha Widow right yeah so like once a girl lands on a guy who's like

Brian Atlashe's exceptional in some Metric or in many metrics so he could just be super attractive really good in bed really high status Rich personality wise it's going to be very hard for her to like go

Brian Atlasback in that Dimension so she dates a guy who has his own place it's going to be hard to go back to the guy who lives in a dorm room with three people once you have that experience which is why but guys can

Brian Atlashave that same [ __ ] we were talking about last show for example if you're a dude and you get with the girl who like going to get a little sexual here if she just like can come super quick

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)and just like has multiples you're [ __ ] but here's here's the other thing too this is the this is the question right and I speak never mind if men if if men can be promiscuous but women

Riley May Lewiscan't who are they sleeping with each other yes your boyfriend's gay Checkmate no do you think that your relationship is viable for long term I think so yes because I think that a man will settle

Riley May Lewisdown for one girl but it's true they're always going to want to have sex with other women because it's a natural instinct for them it's a natural know humans can be stronger than our Natural

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)Instincts and that's what separates us from like animals but should they be no we should all go around randomly indiscriminately [ __ ] each other stabbing everybody who pisses us off

Brian Atlasgrowing every child over the freaking of course we should because if it what okay I have a question for you cuz you're you're friends with Riley right so you like you see the relationship

Brian AtlasDynamic here how like she's closed but the boyfriend is open so like he can [ __ ] other CHS wait are you involved with the boyfriend no no okay no but like would you have that same kind of scenario see having seen your friend in

McKenzieit no I've always I'm very monogamous person so you would demand monogamy from your male partner I think you should respect me the same I respect you so I'm going to be loyal to you you need to do it back going work what you tell your friend also being a Christian wait

McKenzieyou're Christian yes I am which denomination so I like I'm heresy church I right now right now I go to a non-denominational church but I'm still kind of figuring it out it's kind of for me it's more of like a personal relationship with God I'm still learning I didn't really wasn't raised I think we

McKenzieshould shame her until she becomes Orthodox you been actually yes I got baptized for the first conratulations yeah it was a really it was me and three of my friends got baptized together it

McKenziewas great wait and you you have like an exclusive lingerie side or something no no so basically fanix is an O It's Bas I would consider it more like a patreon so for me it's like it's lit like what you

McKenzieself what do you post on there at the most I've ever done is like I did like behind the scenes of like a beach photo shoot I did for a modeling job like I post so you were like in the Bikini yeah and it was kind of like no like I don't post anything with like my butt in it

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)nothing that's like revealing up here like it's very so it's like basically your Instagram it's basically my Instagram but it's like I would say it's yeah which is smart business

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)model that's a totally noral smarter than posting your Instagram pictures for free that's what you were saying I'm not saying that you should post your Instagram pictures for free no that's what I'm saying it's smarter for her to make people pay for her Instagram

Riley May Lewispictures I find a way to I I don't I don't know I actually said that I don't think it's right for women to be posting their pictures for free because I think that it makes said LA and that's what I just said about her right but you're

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)saying that I said the opposite I never said that I never said that can you hear anything I'm saying I said you literally said the same thing I just said you said that I agreed with that I should post this for free no no no no that she's

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)being smart by not posting her selfies on on Instagram for free she's charging money that's what you said that's what I'm saying you said okay right we're clear yes we're clear I have a question because you said how do you know I'm not

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)moving towards motherhood and all so how is this open relationship going to work when you have this man's child is he still going to be out with other strumpets how about when you're how

Riley May Lewisabout when you're pregnant well here's the thing is that I think with this type of relationship there should be one main girl I don't mind if he's you know

Riley May Lewiscoming to these sexual desires that he wants to have because here's the thing if you don't know about it they're probably going to do it anyways you know I think you just make them have I mean like what are you going to do when the

Riley May Lewischildren like what if the children find out that oops Daddy got his side girl pregnant or just so you know you're failing as a woman the the children don't have to know about just going to let her say that at

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)all I I am not failing as a woman do you know what I'm talking about I I would like to hear what you're talking about women in general they have a higher uh tendency towards morality even though

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)we've been corrupted out of it and what happens is women are the ones who hold men to a higher moral standard that they have to Aspire to meet so when you say

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)hey it's okay for you to just follow whatever sexual instincts you want um you are failing your duty to inspire your man to actually try and control his lust if he did not really if he did that

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)if he actually uh aspired to those higher values and actually tried to fight against his lust he would actually find a bigger respect for himself and for you but why would

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)why should he try to fight against this lust if he good question can I answer it can I answer why he should try to fight against this because it actually leads to a deeper fulfillment and a more expansive sense of your own Humanity

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)when you do that you realize you are more than just your animal-based instincts and that is a wonderful worthy goal that actually we missing in our society

Riley May Lewisno and I I do I do agree but I think that if a man is high value enough and he's educated enough and has all of these characteristics to where he can be in that top 1% of

Riley May Lewisman it's ready for you to come out of this woman's body take off your disguise he that he should this is a Deliverance no that he should be able to reproduce with many

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)women what the how do you define a high value women I really want to know is it your wa is it because you've maintained a certain like is no it's it's it's the qualities it's the qualities that you

Riley May Lewishave referring to like motherhood nurturing being there for your husband you're not a mother yet so so so tell me what the please list the qualities the qualities of a high value woman I really want to hear what she has to say what

Riley May Lewisare what are the it's it's someone who is a good mother is not promiscuous okay takes care of her kids takes care of her husband R can you scoot your mic that way of course yeah like patriarchy once

Riley May Lewisagain go ahead okay the the characteristics being a good mother being nurturing taking care of your husband making sure that you're supporting him in his Endeavors and if

Riley May Lewisthat involves letting him you know succumb to these sexual desires I think that is fine are you an enag too what was that do you know the enag the no can you explain the she's I think what

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you're saying is nurturing right I thought you were Christian you can't do any a gram and be Christian I'm to tell you this a woman's only value comes from her tits in her ass just kidding I'm just kidding that's a joke erroneous so

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)so I I think it's interesting so you're saying a lot about like nurturing you're clearly a nurturing person you you care for your boyfriend you're loyal to your boyfriend you care about the men who like let's call I'm they're not clients

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)what would you call them you would call them fans I mean I I don't know what I would call them exactly but you care about them you perceive them more than like other girls like you actually care about them so that's a good thing but

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)don't you think there could be negative repercussions of the you and you say not promiscuous right so what is how do you

Riley May Lewisdefine promiscuous promiscuous posting things online being in a bikini no I what do you do on only fans

Riley May Lewislike shocked know what she she's hyping up these dudes no I just you listen all these things like you have it on your Instagram I don't have it

Riley May Lewisjust you're losing your friend your friend's gone you you will not you will not find you will not find one bikini picture on my Instagram you I don't know how you managed to do this but you alienated more of the women on this

Nicolepanel than I did you said you're a virtual stripper it's a joke have you ever heard of a joke you're not a stripper though you don't you don't have an only fans what do you do on your are you promiscuous on your only fans guys I

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)know you guys all want to see it well are you a well I mean I've never seen fake tits in my I want to see it do you pose naked ask

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that is is the content to make men feel valued but also to make them aroused is your content is is there a dual purpose for your content I because I think I'm hearing you say that you want men to

TTS/Chat readerfeel valued I think that's awesome yes doc villy donated $200 blue bimo one 100 m blue bimo 2 you are not a high value woman you are a

TTS/Chat readerdoormat you are a [ __ ] and a concubine be nice hard a high value woman stop hit get some help I I don't think that you're I don't think you're those things

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)get some I think that I think that you have beautiful qualities like you are very nurturing you are caring you want men to do well I think it's hard I think

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)there are sorry Riley I think there is enough evidence to show that like Pro I think you can showcase these qualities in ways that could be potentially more

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)productive and even more powerful and even using like your beauty and your nurture and your kindness and your concern for for men and that doesn't

Riley May Lewishave to be through this venue of arousal have you seen any of my content on any of my social Med hold hold wait wait wait wait let me let me let me just kind of

Brian Atlaslike you know this could be like a 20-minute conversation I I'll just like save us all a bunch of time porn bad of bad cool let's move on so nich codon men should be allowed to act on on all

Brian Atlasdesires what else has he done to you to make you think this way for the first time I'm generally concerned for woman on the show JK got to be trolled here's what I'm going to say okay final thing but I want to talk about your weird situ

Riley May Lewissituationship for too long if a man is able to be successful in the top 1% he obviously has some very important qualities that you know would make it wouldn't you want your DNA to be passed

Riley May Lewison to Future Generations if you are that high value wait but is he impregnating The Other Women he's sleeping with no I I I I don't know what do you mean you don't know I I don't know I have no idea

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)the minute he impregnates another one of those women you are no longer top chick that that's it listen well are you the main piece yes he tells her she's the main

Brian Atlaspiece okay oh man okay well let me get into some other notes here but uh that was she never gets pregnant cuz God damn uh going back to my notes for Leonardo you were married to a sociopath correct

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)uh do you want to give us a quick rundown on that sure he was a this was the malcontent person who uh was very manipulative he didn't just do it with me he would manipulate people out of

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)their money um he M he was a uh nonviolent sociopath so you have you have different kinds um so low conflict

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)personality type uh very uh feminine in terms of his lack of control over his own emotions and so he I was young I didn't really

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)know much better I I actually came from a very uh conservative family and I did not even date anybody until I was uh 24

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)and then uh the then married this guy at 25 so um I had no context for relationships I had no idea that this wasn't normal so he would do things like

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)um out of nowhere just okay here I'll give you an example I used to be an actress in New York and so I did plays nothing involving any kind of nudy or whatever and then one day he just goes

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)hey if you get a um if you get a movie deal and they ask you to be topless would you do it and I said well are they going to see everything is it going to be insinuated and that was enough he

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)just snapped he snapped and went into a whole rage oh I knew you were a [ __ ] and just firing off okay now was his concern that I was actually going to do this no

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)was he doing he was doing a very manipulative game where you attack someone and you make them uh feel bad you accuse them of things and then that gives you power over them so the minute that we kind of we we went on this huge

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)fight for no absolutely no reason and then at the end of it I was apologizing to him so this is one of those you know and I I wonder about your guy but it doesn't I haven't heard anything yet but

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)a lot of guys will control a woman's mind this way where they'll implant certain thoughts to allow for Behavior they want to do and then say that that's just the natural order of things so was he like diagnosed as a sociopath or is

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)this a bit of hyperbole it's not hyperbole okay yeah he was a con artist sociopath yes and he made up stories that had nothing to do with reality he made up some story how um he almost got

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)into the Olympics and um then accidentally hurt his leg right beforehand and then when we when I was divorcing him he was like I that wasn't true and yeah when the and then he tried

Brian Atlasto go to couple's counseling with me and the therapist told me he's a con artist sociopath H wait and so Rachel you have

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)something on sociopath don't you I don't think so do I well like how a lot of women will overestimate like no it's like the girl not saying that's the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)case for no that's fine no like I out of the three people I've ever been with one of them kind of was this way but most girls when you talk to them if they've been with like 20 dudes and they say 19

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)of them were narcissists you can pretty much bet that it's her that's actually the narcissist okay right or if you have a so I had a tendency of being attracted

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)to not great guys and that was my own uh sense of low self-esteem and uh not really knowing that you could command for to be once I got to the place where

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)I was like you know what if it's this or or being alone I'm totally comfortable being alone then I was able to screen these guys out and get rid of them pretty quickly yeah okay uh let me have

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)you read this one okay okay um by that logic women should date short broke fat men even though women like athletic financially free and tall

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)men the traditional con women are undercover feminists you can't stop how God made us match is this your

Brian Atlasboyfriend I don't think he's watching this he's too busy H what than man thank you man appreciate

Brian Atlasit appreciate it uh also just ripstock FYI just the read is 100 TTS is 200 just FYI uh that's it is below the threshold but thank you man appreciate it uh one

Brian Atlaslast note here for you Leonardo you had a disagreement you said that with the show I think the way you handle women is neglecting your duties as men correct to

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)lead and protect women even when they stray do you care to elaborate on that yeah I mean you're not doing it today so I can't just other days I can't go off of this today just a few things that I've seen I think that you have a

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)tendency to kind of Shame some of these women um can you give me an example no cuz I don't have anything I'm just speaking out of my ass right now just based on some clips that I've seen right and I've seen with you and some of these

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)red pill guys they'll bring on these girls with the only fans I don't think so okay yeah um but I I don't like that I I think I think there's a lot of this happening on uh social media where we're

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)we're trying to I get it we have to make money it's interesting it's exciting to do this but I think that this happens a lot I see it online where men will um shame women and I I guess if they're

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)going to be like resistant or whatever but I I don't think that that's the way cuz you she was asking like how do we stop this and I don't think that is the way because it just confirms there

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)already existing bias that men want to abuse them right and so with a lot of this stuff a lot of it I think you know should really be discussed in a different way where you kind of like

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)show them hey this is actually not to your benefit this isn't good for you and actually try to you know bring them out of that mentality you're not going to always win but I don't think that the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the kind of like exposes that happen are the best way to do it that's my opinion well I would need a specific example of I know I wish I wish I'd done my work but I think well I think I know what you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)guys are saying and I have friends female friends who feel this way because my husband's on the show frequently and some of the stuff I say will kind of trigger them and I think everyone's instinct is to protect women and like what you said in the pre-show notes was

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)even when they've gone astray we should still protect them I didn't quite say we should protect them I just don't necessarily know that kind of you know stripping them naked and issuing lashes

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)is the way to do it metaphorically this is this is my opinion on it which is work my opinion on it is that um right now we don't have a problem of too much woman shaming in general now you could

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)look at some have you seen my Twitter feed you go in I go I go in on everyone you go but I think that we should I think that in general we should so like how I ended up in two previous bad

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)relationships that well I can't even say they were bad because like my first two children I had with my high school boyfriend I was with almost six years I knew him my whole life great guy he went through some personal [ __ ] there was no

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)cheating there was no blowouts there was no like toxicity uh he just went through some really intense personal stuff left okay I'm alone with two kids I'm devastated I couldn't predict how I

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)ended up here I never thought that would be me I intended to be with one guy and stay with one guy forever it didn't work out put me in a vulnerable position where guy number two comes along I meet

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)him he sounds great he sounds perfect Too Perfect in fact uh marry him have a baby with him like I'm supposed to as his wife and he turns out to actually have some very serious issues I didn't

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)know about that he didn't tell me about so I understand what you're saying where like women can be vulnerable and there can be bad guys that's true however when that one left and I'm alone now with

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)three kids and two ex-husbands and I knew everybody everyone forever for the rest of my life is just going to say oh she has three kids with two guys and they're going to assume they're going to assume I was you're a high value woman

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that I was like promiscuous or that I was sleeping around with random which I never ever did um and I'm sitting there at 26 trying to figure out what the [ __ ] do I do now right and what I had to do I could blame the guys I could look at

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)them and all the things they did wrong to me but instead I went wait a minute I'm the common denominator here there's something about me either I'm attracting this type of guy or I'm attracting

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)certain beh something I'm the common denominator cuz they were total opposites so I had to take a hard look at myself and this is the only way I will say that I think I could be an example to women out there in every other way I'm not your life coach I'm

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)not your mom I'm not the lady with all the wisdom but in this one way I think I can be an example which is that I took a super hard look at myself at 26 which is hard to do we don't like to do that as women be introspective and look at where

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)all our flaws are and where our weaknesses are and I went okay I see a pattern of what I'm doing I see that I sometimes have a bad attitude I see that the the default feminism was in me too I

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)didn't think I was a feminist and I didn't think I was doing anything particularly immoral or wrong or bad but I did have like the Modern Woman attitude to an extent and that led me to

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)pick People based on wrong factors you have to look at like you know your childhood stuff and all that but all I'm trying to say is I think that we have an issue where we tell women that they are

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)perfect they can do no wrong you're a goddess you're a queen you slay Queen you're amazing uh EV every man should want you at your best and and put up with you at your worst and all this kind

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)of stuff we don't say that to men women are the ones being told we're already perfect we don't need to change where do you so I had a totally different upbringing totally different than that and my experience with a lot of women is

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)they are incredibly self-critical probably not in the right ways you know um but I agree with you and I think this is true for men and women is that you can't really do anything to change the

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)person that you were with the only thing can do is change yourself so if something's not going right whether it was one time or multiple times I think the answer is always to look inside yourself and see what you can do to to

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)fix that but um is I is this a common thing that that because I don't know I didn't I have a totally different upbringing where where you guys are brought up and and told your wonderful

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)special and all that stuff is that true well they'll say no but generally like when I watch the show and you ask women what went wrong with the previous relationships they usually will say oh he was this and he was that and he did this wrong and he did that he wasn't

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)emotionally supportive he wasn't this it's like every they'll go through 15 guys and every single time it was the guy and it was never them and I'm just like and I think this is a symptom of us

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)telling women you're amazing you're special you're perfectly you don't need to change anything you're you're a goddess and I'm just is saying this it's always we're telling women this they're

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)saying right right I would say I would say that on the like you look like a Taylor Swift are you Swifty no are you Swifty I'm wearing shirt right now I do not listen so she

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)can write multiple albums about all her breakups and she's had like what 27 exboyfriend or something lot of boyfriend but it was and she wrote a funny tongue and- cheek song called I'm the problem it's me because everybody

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)was telling her Hey Taylor maybe perhaps you could be the issue here if every single guy you've ever dated is a total piece of [ __ ] and you'll hear women do this right where and this is why I won't do it even though the trolls are

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)constantly like what about your exes what about your ex I'm not going to give their business because they're private people I'm a public person they're not and I have the respect for them to not tell here's an example here's an example

Brian Atlasif a man cheats he [ __ ] up if a woman cheats the man [ __ ] up the woman cheated the he wasn't meeting my need where do you get that from this is like a common thing cuz

Brian Atlasthat's not what I see women women will constantly argue that when women cheat the man wasn't meeting some sort of expectation but when the man cheats he's a he's a dog he's a piece of [ __ ] I've

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)seen I've seen something totally the best one where if a man doesn't want you to keep the baby he's an [ __ ] he has no right to make that decision and if a woman wants to keep it it's her body go

Carlyher none of you are giving examples of where except you gave Taylor Swift which I I'm not sure I totally agree with that oh every all you guys are saying is they're saying this they're saying that the culture is saying this how about the Nar

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)of abortions where the narrative what is the I mean you guys I'm about to explain it to you okay so oh [ __ ] basically the narrative with abortion on

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the left side you do need a cat noise The Narrative with abortion on the left side is that if you are a woman it is 100% your decision whether or not that

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)baby lives and if you wanted to live fine but if you don't it doesn't matter the man you're with it doesn't matter what he thinks you know opinion if you give him an opinion then you're brainwashed and the child is not a child

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)like it's not a fetus it's not living you can decide what it doesn't science doesn't matter like we all of a sudden want to get really scientific when we talk about abortion because we're like oh it's not it's like a fetus it's not the same thing but then I mean there are

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)other left arguments that science doesn't matter but that is the narrative and so if okay but you're still saying what the narrative is not who specifically is pushing these Nar let me let me help on the abortion thing here a

Brian Atlaslittle bit let me ask you a question right are you pro-choice I am okay so what happens let's say uh you know you go to UCSB people hooking up people aren't always using protection let's say

Brian Atlasa guy knocks up his 20-year-old girlfriend and she wants to keep it what do you say to the man who says I don't want I I'm not financially ready to be a

Carlyfather I'm not prepared to be a parent what do you say to him me personally I I would say I I agree with you you you should encourage her to get rid of it oh

Brian Atlassee well hold on but but let's say she's she's steadfast good word steadfast and she wants to keep she's not going to get the abortion

Carlyshe wants to keep it what do you tell to the man what do you say to the Man I mean I know this is the answer you're looking for I would say well you can't force her well but cuz I mean you can't you can't really Force you can't violate

Brian Atlassomeone else wouldn't you say something along the lines of step up to the you should have you should have kept your legs close you should have had sex with her if you didn't want to do that correct you should have thought about it

Carlybefore came raw you might be asking the wrong person because I would not say that but I'm I'm sure that there are people who would say that I am I well here's the because I mean I do believe there are people who would say that okay so then you're would you be in favor of

Brian Atlasuh it's called Uh uh legal paternal surrender so that's basically you say I don't I yeah I think I actually would be so like let's say the woman wants to keep it the man doesn't would you be totally fine with the man he could make

Brian Atlassome sort of opt-in decision where he's like okay I don't want to be financially responsible for the child I don't want custody and he could opt out if yeah if it's like legal and informed and like you know both sides know what they're agreeing to yeah I would no the other

Brian Atlasside the woman doesn't have to agree to that would in any here's here's my position hold on let me explain it in any state where a woman has a right to

Brian Atlasget an abortion I think a man ought to have a corresponding right to what I like to some people call it a paper abortion what I what I prefer to call call a legal paternal surrender so the

Brian Atlasman could say well if you have a right to an abortion but you're opting to keep the child I have a corresponding right to say well I don't want to be uh custodi responsible I don't want to be

Carlyfinancially responsible for the child I would agree with that what I mean is the woman should know if he is doing that like shouldn't he shouldn't be able to

TTS/Chat readerhide like I mean $200 reason lives with their backwards / gorilla logic can't agree on

TTS/Chat readerwhen Life Starts heartbeat cognition birth Etc shouldn't The Logical answer be to default back to concep to eliminate potential murder we'll come back to that in just a second actually I

Brian Atlasdisagree with you because a woman could opt to get an abortion without having to make any disclosures to the man airgo I think a man in a state where this and frankly this will never be this will never pass anywhere even in super

Brian AtlasProgressive liberal states where this would be at least some form of equality on the Reproductive Rights thing at least for men but frankly liberals and progressives don't give a [ __ ] about men

Brian Atlasand frankly neither do conservatives at least they they give it's a very liberals and progressives don't give a [ __ ] about men if they're not even just anti-men conservatives it's like token

TTS/Chat readerit's a very token support for men but this will never happen so it's just kind of a Fool's errand but L Paladin I don't think there should be disclosure on the man's part brick

TTS/Chat readersuch a bad take even worse for society encouraging men to blow loads in 304s and then it makes even more single mothers and taxpayers pay in in any

Brian Atlasstate where abortion is legal it occurs to me that if if we're like living in this egalitarian equal you know uh which we don't but well in terms of like we have equality for women not really for

Brian Atlasmen though especially on the reproductive front there is no uh men have absolutely zero Reproductive Rights while women exactly so you're saying just what's good for the goose should be good for the gander like if you have the right to

Brian Atlasunilateral abortion you have the right to unilateral divorce then men should have the same Dave Chappelle put it very eloquently if you have the right to murder a child I at least ought to have

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the right to abandon it yeah and actually I think that logic would promote I mean like if that were a thing it would promote it would it would force people to have to take

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)responsibility for for sex for what they're engaging in it would force them to have conversations because all of a sudden there's a lot more at stake whereas right now there's just not a lot of say so it's interesting wait I have a

Brian Atlasquestion for you why do you think men should have to dis in this hypothetical scenario where there's uh paper abortion why should a man have to disclose to a woman that he's opting out I think that

Carlyso she has she can reconsider the abortion yeah I would I would say to Recons because if you know you think you're going to have two incomes to support a child you're going to be

Carlygetting child support whatever and then after the child is born you don't receive that I think that could really negatively impact the child's life so I think a woman should know what at least have a good idea about what is going to

Brian Atlashappen post birth with her child I mean what if it was I mean even in the scenario where it was like a casual encounter

Brian Atlaswhere she would have no reasonable expectation that this man intended like consent to sex this is kind of consent to sex is

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)not consent to fatherhood I I think or it is or if it is then consent to sex should also be consent to Motherhood on the woman's like we have to be consistent right yeah

Brian AtlasI that's the thing I I don't think your logic is very consistent but I think that wait I think he is consist hold from a from uh are you pro-choice hold on from the male perspective is cons if a male consents to sex is that him

Carlyconsenting to fatherhood no I don't think so you don't think so well that's how it is actually currently well I know and I'm saying I I agree that if if a woman is going to go

Carlyforth with a pregnancy that a man does not want to provide for I mean that's her choice to have the child I I agree that he should have the choice to not be supportive I just think that I'm I'm

Carlythinking about the child here after it's born I think that you should know what you're getting into and that's part of the reason I'm pro choice is because I don't think that children being born in certain situations are having very good

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)lives so you think it's better for them to be dead yes I genuinely do so we should just kill all poor people cuz they're not having a good time they're already alive they're already alive poor people are the only ones having babies

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)by the way right now and the only so so you'd be fine with uh just you know the human race dying out I mean I'm going to die

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)somay the problem is that just goes down we like eight for eight now when I've asked this question to a feminist like but she's not under she's not under any

Carlypropaganda or brainwashing not the death cult that's pushing even heard of the human race she hasn't even heard of it I would not be fine with it ending in my lifetime because I personally try to avoid like suffering but that's pretty

Brian Atlasselfish though cuz yeah yeah I think everyone alive is pretty selfish I think most people try to avoid suffering wait last question on this and then we'll move to a different topic do you think that men should pay child support before the child is even

Carlyborn like pregnancy support I think they should pay before they even have sex with the woman so prostitution um it's a down payment yeah I actually do I think if if it's a sit I think like

Carlyin your situation where they can opt out if they're like I don't consent to being a father no thank you then no but if they're going to be paying child support then yeah I think they should also support through the pregnancy none of these questions we used to have a thing

Carlycalled marriage thank you I'm I'm Pro marriage I don't believe children should be born out of wedlock wait so one question though she say kill them just kill them so how early on like sh could

Brian Atlasit for example if the woman finds out like when do T women typically find out four or five weeks yeah it's I think to six weeks so should should it be retroactive let's say like should it should the retroactive child support

Brian Atlaspre-birth child support be retroactive up until conception no once you know oh once you know okay so like at four I think that would be a difficult legal thing to out should start paying not

Brian Atlaspaying all of it she start paying child support yeah at what point in the pregnancy like four weeks in if she finds out let's say she finds out at four weeks in should the man be paying child support LOL paladins donated

TTS/Chat reader$200 you just got to the Crux of the matter women have been brainwashed to believe that humans that reproduce a bad and it's better if humans ceased to exist yep literal death count it's

Brian Atlascalled malthusianism I don't think that I also don't believe overation wait so so just back to my thing so the woman finds out four weeks in she's pregnant so is that at the point the man should pay child

Carlysupport well the point I think would be whatever going forward okay I'm pregnant whatever prenatal care you need you should I think it should just be whatever point the pregnancy is known

Brian Atlasotherwise I don't think it should be retro hold on so you are though in favor that the man should pay child support prior to birth I'm not against I'm not likeing for this starting at

Carlyfour weeks or so starting whenever like if you don't let's say it's four weeks sure yeah okay so you are acknowledging that it is a child at four weeks yeah I I went into the whole you can watch my one-on-one debate with Andrew Wilson

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)where just just kid so can I can I just say something this is exactly where we have an issue okay cuz she's saying he should and he should be forced to and he should be made to and it's like who's doing that okay the government right so

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)what we have done is we have created this nanny state where instead of people taking responsibility and accountability for their lives because this is what women used to do they used to screen men

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)and say are you going to take care of me and your children and if you're not I'm not going to have sex with you and if I make the wrong decision the responsibility of that decision falls

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)upon my shoulders we have now abdicated that responsibility and said I don't want to be responsible for anything somebody should take care of this let's use the power of the state to enforce my

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)will because I didn't have the self-c control wherewithal or insight to make that decision in the right time and this is why we are in a problem and and so do you think that thank you that that was

Brian Atlasgood man that's actually really I haven't thought of that so if for example if we were to get rid of Child Support do you think women would be a bit more responsible when it comes to who they have sex with well first of all two things you if you got rid of child

Carlysupport and Welfare okay because there there's a nice net there okay all of a sudden those legs would be closing up so are you guys Pro or antinatalist I mean if you if you would like to prevent these these births you want to take away

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)safety nets for women who do get pregnant sounds like you're part of the the death nope nope nope I did not say prevent the births I said first of all something will something totally different will shift in the way that men behave you will still have a a proportion of men who are going to be trying to sleep with women and they're

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)going to be doing it but it's not going to be the majority of men most men are going to be looking to get married because they want to uh have sex which is the whole point is to reproduce they will you think people should be getting married just cuz they want to have sex

Carlyit's a what do you think marriage is about that's one of the big reasons love and partnership sure well that's all Bs no no it of course it is of course it is

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)but but out of here's the thing people we we're so disconnected children are the blossom of the love that you have it is it's like a flower blooming out of something beautiful that's all gone all of that is washed away because it's not

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)even your responsibility it's the state's responsibility and somebody should do it instead of you looking at your own accountability if you want to be treated as an equal as an equal adult as a man then you must behave exactly

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)the same way you must share the same responsibilities the same accountability and not leave it to be somebody else's problem to clean up the mess that you didn't have the thought process to go through and I'm not saying you can't get help people need help all the time we

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)all make mistakes it's not meant to beat you down because you've made a mistake but we are now living in a society that encourages this and encourages absolutely no accountability on behalf of women and pretty soon on behalf of

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)men it's actually provably true what she's saying because in my book I point out that if you look from 1960 to now and you plot out on a graph out of woodlock births and the growth of the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)welfare state on a map or like on a graph they go up exactly in tandem like this like perfect lock step with each other so we basically just replaced

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)marriage and paternity fathers with the state and Welfare and you could see on the same can you repeat that the welfare state is rising with the birth rate with

Carlyout of wedlock of bir out of wedlock births and you can see this in the black community it's clear okay um I have a couple comments about that sure first of all I know you I don't know about your your debates so

Carlymuch but I know Andrew's debates he relies a lot on like sociological studies are unreproducible so I mean how can you say that that if there's such a replication crisis how can a sociological study because you just look at the actual dollars how did they

Carlycollect that how did they collect that data could that be reproduced could the data collection how they collected the data of like how are they're measuring and how are they measuring out of wedlock births it's probably selfreported so I'll explain welfare you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)measure by literal Federal welfare dollars spent okay so that's just math which they track and then how how are they how are they accounting for confounding variables when they're comparing the two I'm not saying that

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)they're comparing the two I'm saying I compared the two how are you accounting for confounding variables you don't necessarily need to account for all no I'll well shut up and I'll explain so if you look at out of wedlock births that's

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)something that when you go to have the baby right and if you don't put married to the dad on the birth certificate it's an outof wedlock birth or you're not you know taking the same last name like they did back in the day I'm just saying I'm

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)not saying it's causitive I'm saying it's exactly correlative and there are times happiness be anti-depressant where even if it's just a correlation if they are in exact lock

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)step with each other if it was like this that might be one thing but when they go like this together exactly the same it's highly indicative of the fact that we

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)are you positive you Mak but I bet if that stuff was about clate controling out of wedlock births by rewarding people with financial support from the state rather than from the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)father you are making a causal claim I'm also using logic I'm using logic me that thing sorry that thing logic okay go ahead go ahead that logic thing where you can see that obviously as soon as we

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)start incentivizing pay for out of woodlock more of them no no because I'm going to say this she's going to say that she believes those statistics and those correlations but these correlations are

Carlynot and that this is the this is the okay so do you believe in global warming show me show me for show yeah I actually my father is mobile ex well now we're going to attack you cuz you don't

Brian Atlasbelieve it that's fine wait uh I do have to move things on a little bit here let me read a couple chats then we'll get into our next thing uh can I have you read this one please maybe a few woman

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)well women women women it doesn't say on the screen would stop being so judgmental and stop ranking human beings and picking their Partners on their net worth with love and respect the rest

Riley May Lewiswill fall in place in lasting relationships I think most women feel that way buddy I mean not her but a lot most women do feel that way I'm not saying that you should pick a man because of his net worth I'm just saying most women all go for the same 1% of men

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)and you guys are probably all guilty of it not true nobody wants my man let me tell you that broke as [ __ ] when we started dating he's a he's an incredible man he's a high value man but he was never like a wealthy man he had to work

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)incredibly hard for me to be able to stay home with the kids and all that you don't have to be wealthy to be a high value man he the things that he had going for him was incredible Charisma I don't know if you've ever watched The

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Crucible wo yeah he's got RZ and he's very handsome but he was uh really emotionally stable he was really Dependable uh his yes is yes his no is

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)no like that kind of thing he's got big time masculine energy um things like that so it wasn't that he was like high status he didn't have a Bugatti or none of that don't have to be high status to

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)be high value and I think what do you think is high value then but that's what that guy's talking about he's talking you you're talking about going for the top same same top 1% that's the same thing that's high status high value that's women R Le can you read this one

Riley May Lewisyeah thank you Loi why are we shaming Blondie for securing a high value man when Rachel has two divorces and Nanny MC is expired I'm Nanny MC you're a nanny

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)[Applause] MC wait go ahead I mean I don't think she's securing anything like that are securing that same job it's just who gets pregnant first is the

Riley May Lewisgame but like the emo girl came in with the win the right but go off you know go off Queen it just tattoos on girls is

Riley May Lewistrashy oh come on we don't personal attacking andw K is trash that's an ad hom him attack she

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)had a good point ad don't don't put bumper stickers on a Bentley Don't Spray pain over Fine Art hey could we say the same thing about your fake titties though cuz you're you're putting you

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)know God made you to have small titties and you destroyed it you know somewhere there's a man who was dreaming of you and wanted and now you've ruined it you've ruined

Brian Atlasited more than a handful rued H okay good talk I'm kidding no I know I don't okay we have

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)uh evils real uh could you read this one Celeste hi Rachel your husband said you're obese because of a disease did you get diagnosed at the Orthodox church

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)or MD love the cherry-picking of science you believe in hypocrite SL delusional this is a male feminist okay like I said I have very dedicated haters there's like three people with like 30 sock

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)accounts that follow me everywhere I go just to talk [ __ ] it's how you know you're over the target good times we have another you if you can uh read this one

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)please uh scarcity is needed for the balance of the Sexes to work properly when we lose scarcity we get a mouse

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)Utopia at what if but if L Bri please look this up yeah that's a guy who made he made a he made a thing called Mouse Utopia which shows

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)they they did this experiment with mice and they repeated it over and over again and what they did is they put mice living in kind of a Utopia Society where they're given everything including access to mates and everything and

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)they're they're supposed to go up to a certain level of population but they always stop about 30% short of that and the society collapses the male might start acting feminine the female might

Brian Atlasstart acting masculine exactly what we have now and it fails every time all right we have Darren Jones here thank you for the Super Chat man I really appreciate it could I have you uh go ahead oh yeah yeah that thing uh Brian

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)after watching your show for 9 months I feel the assets should not be split in marriage each party should have to prove ownership no alimony no more child

Brian Atlassupport based uh I mean it's it's complicated though because I mean the typical argument that you'll hear from the other side which does have some Merit is that for example

Brian Atlasif a woman you know marries young and she disregards for example going to uh college and disregards pursuing a career and then if

Brian Atlasin the event of a divorce especially if the man is the initiator of the divorce although that's pretty overwhelmingly rare women tend to uh initiate divorces

Brian Atlassomewhere between 70 to 80% uh there there is a decent argument to be made that uh you know if especially if you've have then gone on and have kids but that's for child

Brian Atlassupport but specifically on the alimony component uh is she going to be able to provide for herself after she's given 10 20 years to the household and not in

Brian Atlaspursuit of a career I don't know if Rachel you have any thoughts there but I'm not 100% against alimon I think it ought to be reasonable though sometimes you you'll hear these kind of crazy

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)alimony numbers and um well I would just do away with unilateral and no fault divorce altogether reinstitute sacramental marriage not make it some cheapened [ __ ] certificate that you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)get from your county that nobody gives a [ __ ] about and people would be serious again about marriage and then this would be an outlier situation that in my opinion should be dealt with through ecclesiastical authority meaning if you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)get married you get married through your church church if there's a divorce for whatever reason the church handles that situation got it and then no not yet so we had a chat that

Brian Atlascame in very early on in the show I made a note to ask it I forgot about it so the question was something along the lines

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)of would you date me starting with you go ahead I'm not asking this one of the Chatters are so no you you don't even want to know the answer to the question

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)I think that was me that was me that was me being sarcastic that you you're not interested in this question at all by the way I'm not if it's a no I'm not gonna be offend mean I think on both ends it would be a no like you and me like I don't think we would why' you say

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that I obvious I don't look like I'd be your type and what I what what who would look like my

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)type very minimal makeup very natural uh younger not younger than me hopefully cuz that would be questionable

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)well you're 22 right yeah okay well I mean how old are you 34 yeah I mean I mean you shouldn't be dating like an 18-year-old at 34 or something but yeah

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)I she's a consenting adult strong woman and that's she just got out of high school so she on the BL but wait but wait if she's 18 and she can sign a lease and she can drive a car and she can hold a job and she can go to college

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)she can do all these things but she can't decide who she wants to date I mean I just personally are 18y old women full women people have people have the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)choice you know they can or can't but me I just view it as like a little why odd for someone to go for yeah it's just icky because I'm like this person was

Brian Atlasliterally living with their parents four months ago they were like a child legally a child well let's also not just to be clear let's not straw man my dating preferences no I'm I don't know

Brian Atlasyour dating preferences or anything but I'm just saying like I I mean I actually in terms of the range of age I would date I'll date a woman who's older than me I'll date a woman my age I'll date

Brian Atlasyounger so no dating younger is fine just dat an adult woman yeah okay I mean but I'm not like for example would I date like a 20-year-old sure would I date a woman who's older than me I'll

Brian Atlasdate [ __ ] there's plenty of cool attractive women even in their 40s I dat a woman who's in her 40s not my preference there you go oh was it on camera nope it was just getting close I

Brian Atlasjust noticed it was it was sh itself zip it up put it on zip it up um so but but it's also like okay I would conceivably date a woman who's 20 but I'm also not

Brian Atlaslike going to college parties in pursuit of dating a 20- year-old like if it would have to be the scenario for me to date a 20-year-old she would have to either DM like she would have to contact

Brian Atlasme I'm not like going out of my way to go date 20-year-old contact him at huh well you supposed to to plug your ad so they can find you okay BD Alice but what

Brian AtlasI'm saying is I I'll play along with there but yeah like the girl would have to DM me I'm not hanging out at college parties and [ __ ] trying to get yeah like

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)a college girl you know yeah so yeah I mean yeah I don't I don't know I go based off of like personality a lot like obviously looks are a f Factor but um

Brian Atlaspersonality is like huge for me wait can you just zip that up a little bit more just all the way maybe maybe like it's a little so hot I'm can we get her can somebody get her

Brian Atlasin a burka please quickly I need to buy one for the show one of these days her uniform okay all right no I think she's

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)good it's good it's fine okay uh but anyways like I can fix her I can fix her it's okay like I was saying it really depends on like person I don't know you as a person wait can can you show us

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)your forehead tattoo that's crazy that's crazy that's wait what your forehead tattoo I've literally talked about this with so many people I'm like the forehead for me my forehead is so sacred like I talked about this on internet I

Brian Atlaswas like I'd rather have a guy see my buttho hold than my forehead cuz something's got to be Shak I literally I I don't know you rather you'd rather a guy see your butt

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)obviously that's kind of a joke obviously that's kind of a joke at the same time like for me your forehead's an intimate is intimate for me it's just like I I just want I didn't want to see your I don't care about I want to see the tattoo on the forehead have I have

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)one right here okay oh no we're seeing your B I just going to say Full Metal Alchemist Full Metal Alchemist oh yeah okay this is Black

Brian AtlasButler wait speaking of tattoos actually yeah I I did a review of your Instagram you have a 666 tattoo and a pentagram

Brian Atlastattoo but you also and it's on your lower body those two correct you also this is all this is Big B this is all on your Instagram interestingly enough you

Brian Atlashave a I think it's a passion cross a cross a passionate cross yes on your lower back you have a cross [ __ ] on my butt crack yes a [ __ ] stamp cross

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)tattoo so they can know that they're sinning is this just Edge lording or are you serious about it no I so seriously do have an upside down cross on my crack believe it or not but is it because you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)like actually hate Christianity and you think Satanism awesome or you just like I'm when I originally got the tattoo um I grew up Christian I'm baptized and

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)everything like I grew up Christian was it at St Baptist Church no I'm sorry it's it was like I don't know like I grew up Christian like my mom's

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Christian my whole family it's just like me personally when whenever I went to church and stuff like I know the priest behind the scenes I used to dance he would like come uh to the the club

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)and do lines and [ __ ] like I just know that like most religion to me is just like brainwashing like to just get you to believe so I'm I don't hate

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Christianity or anything like that I'm agnostic I don't know if you're tattooing an upside down cross on your ass crack I would that but that's what I'm saying during the time during the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)time when I got those tattoos I was in a darker place and I would say I did I was also not in a very good place with my

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)family so um tattoos make classy women trashy you saying this girl but you keep me your boyfriend probably loves the tattoos so I'm going to I'm going to get

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