Rachel Wilson DEBATES Feminists! GOTH GIRL! Fake VlRGlN?! E-GIRLS! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #165

Date: 2024-05-29
Duration: 6h 55m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Riley May Lewis(guest)
SPEAKER_04Raika(guest)
SPEAKER_05Nicole(guest)
SPEAKER_07Leonardo/Julia (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_08McKenzie(guest)
SPEAKER_12Gaana(guest)
SPEAKER_13Carly(guest)
SPEAKER_14Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

00:10:25
QuoteRachel Wilson introduces herself as 'Mrs Andrew Wilson' with patriarchy day pass joke

Rachel Wilson: 'I'm Rachel AKA Mrs Andrew Wilson, I'm 43 years old, stay-at-home mom, wife, homemaker, researcher, author — and the patriarchy gave me a day pass to be here via Andrew.' Brian: 'Patriarchy is very generous and benevolent.'

00:25:24
QuoteRiley May Lewis describes her one-sided open relationship

Riley: 'I am in a fully committed one-sided open relationship — on his side.' Brian: 'So you're monogamous, he's sleeping with other [women]?' Riley: 'He is allowed to get with anyone and I am not allowed to get with anyone.'

00:26:05
QuoteRiley justifies one-sided open arrangement with 'high value man' rationale

Riley: 'He's a very high value man... he provides for me in every single way... he checks every single box a girl could possibly want and every girl goes for a man that's in the top 1% and there's not that much to go around.'

00:34:40
Key MomentRaika describes year-long situationship where she lived in his car

Raika: 'He told me he doesn't believe in titles and he didn't want to be exclusive because he wanted to be with multiple women... I kept trying to leave [but went back many times]... he was also my best friend and we were like living in my car together.'

00:48:08
Key MomentLeonardo gives anti-feminist speech to panel

Leonardo: 'I try to do my best to tell young women that they're under the thumb of Oppression even though it's being presented to them as Liberation.' Carly responds that she's never heard this in college. Extended debate begins.

00:57:42
QuoteLeonardo claims Gloria Steinem was in the CIA

Leonardo: 'Feminism as it is was constructed by the CIA with Gloria Steinem — she was in the CIA. It's very well documented.' He also argues James Bond novels were written by an intelligence officer as a CIA psyop promoting promiscuity.

04:23:28
QuoteRating round: Brian rates himself a 5

Brian (host): 'I get myself a five' after guests go around with ratings ranging from 5-7.5.

05:14:56
Key MomentRachel Wilson's hostile Miami trip story

Rachel Wilson describes flying to Miami to meet a Hinge match she'd already met in DC; he was immediately hostile upon her arrival ('I can't believe I let a stranger into my house'), they were stuck in a monsoon. She left early.

05:23:09
QuoteRachel Wilson discloses sex trafficking at ages 18-19 (attributed to Celeste SPEAKER_14)

Celeste X: 'I was sex trafficked at like 18 and 19... it was like prostitute but was it voluntary... no... the last time was more voluntary because I thought I was going into porn.' Prompted by body count question.

06:46:20
QuoteCeleste X reveals body count is 50+ due to sex trafficking history

Celeste: 'I don't really know what my body count is to be honest... it's over 50.' Brian: '50 to 60 or something like that?' Celeste: 'Yeah... I was sex trafficked at 18 and 19.' Panel reacts with empathy.

06:48:19
QuoteRiley May Lewis claims essentially-virgin body count

Brian: 'Body count... less than five?' Riley: 'Under five.' Brian: 'Is it zero?' Riley: 'Under five. Zero.' Friend Carly/Gaana laughs. Riley: 'Stop the cap... that's why I stick to anal sex.' Brian: 'I won't even... that like scares me for real.'

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Guest introductions and announcements

Brian's standard intro and announcements. All 10 guests (8 female + Leonardo) introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian asks follow-up questions on content type, tic disorder (McKenzie), relationship with Andrew Wilson (Rachel).

00:26:20
Relationship status round

Round-robin relationship status: single/relationship/situationship, longest relationships, recent breakups. Deep dives into Riley's one-sided open arrangement, Raika's 1-year situationship, Carly getting back together with ex during midterms.

00:48:00
Feminism debate: CIA psyop and sexual Revolution

Primary ongoing debate throughout show. Rachel Wilson and Leonardo argue feminism is a CIA psychological operation (Gloria Steinem/CIA); James Bond as male promiscuity psyop; Communist infiltration of universities. Nicole argues for co-opting feminist label via Catholic framework. Carly disputes conspiracy framing, defends her college experience. Multiple rounds across the show.

02:14:00
Abortion and reproductive rights debate

Extended debate on abortion rights, paper abortion (legal paternal surrender), unilateral reproductive decisions. Brian argues men should have a legal paternal surrender equivalent if women have unilateral abortion access. Rachel argues secular society replaced religion with political ideology. Carly defends current legal status.

04:14:20
Trans issues and gender as social construct

Debate triggered by question 'is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?' Nicole defends social construct framework for gender vs. sex; Rachel and Leonardo argue biological reality; Rachel argues feminists opened the door to trans ideology via Margaret Fuller (1800s gender spectrum writings).

04:23:28
Self-ratings round

Stiffler TTS asks panel to rate their looks 1-10. Rapid responses (mixed diarization): range of 5-11 (one joke '11'). Brian rates himself a 5. Discussion of humility vs confidence in self-ratings.

04:28:00
Egirl/trad-girl online culture discussion

Discussion of right-wing e-girl Twitter drama; Rachel Wilson's post about e-girl trad culture attracted attacks from competing e-girls. Leonardo and Rachel discuss the phenomenon of e-girls positioning themselves as conservative content creators.

05:00:00
Bear vs. man in the woods

Classic debate question: would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear in the woods? Brian asks each guest. Brian follows with: 'If you answer bear, is your answer racist?' Discussion of whether the question has racial implications.

05:15:00
Rachel Wilson Miami trip and singleness fast

Rachel Wilson tells story: met man on Hinge, had met in DC already, he flew her to Miami but instantly became hostile upon her arrival; stuck during monsoon; she slept in same bed while he was mean. Triggered a 70-day singleness fast and 'Encounter With Jesus.' Led to dating a 6-years-younger man briefly.

05:29:08
Bumble swiping segment

Each guest sets an age range then swipes 20 male Bumble profiles. Most guests rejected 18-20/20 profiles. Raika said yes to 1-2 (car Kink, Wranglers). Celeste said yes to 5-6. Rachel's range: 30-45. Discussion of why women are so selective on dating apps.

06:47:14
Body count round

Brian asks everyone's body count at end of show. Celeste X: 50+ (complicated by sex trafficking at 18-19). Under 5: Gaana/Riley area. Riley claims essentially 0 (anal only); friend Gaana visibly skeptical. Rachel: very low, can count on one hand. Brian: won't disclose. Celeste discloses sex trafficking history in detail.

Transcript

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00:56:33
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)actually want you to um stand up for yourself I want you to um you know yeah well in general I don't like labels feminism as it is was uh constructed by
00:56:43
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)the CIA with Gloria steum she was in the CIA um it's it's very well documented so I don't want to use a label like that I think it it's uh it's just too tainted I
00:56:54
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)in general don't really like labels I don't ascribe to being a democrat or a republican I think they're both pieces of [ __ ] most of the time sorry I don't know if I could say that um but I think the more effective thing would be I think you you need to approach women
00:57:07
Nicolewith a tremendous amount of compassion yeah and I think women respond often times women respond to feminism so that's why well they they they I don't know that they respond I don't really think they're thinking most of the time I mean are you say well if they don't
00:57:20
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)respond to feminism then how are they getting these messages that feminism is pushing and how are they implementing that in their lives so infiltrated so they are listening so listening hold on I I said I don't think they're thinking about it a lot of times
00:57:33
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)when things are Advanced on many levels we accept it without conscious thought there's a difference between that we'll just accept like oh that's true like for example everybody thinks we should drink eight glasses of water a day we weren't doing that when we were in the wild we
00:57:45
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)were totally fine why is that now common knowledge well I think it's because they put fluoride in the water and they want everybody getting enough of it that's my opinion wait how did we get to the fluoride cuz I'll always something back
00:57:56
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)to fluide dude I think fluide makes people passive and it makes you it makes you passive it lowers your IQ and it makes you uh unresistant to propaganda and now you said in your pre-show notes
00:58:07
Brian Atlasthat you think that you kind of already touched on this how promiscuity was is a CIA sop correct psychological operation I think they did it to the men first
00:58:18
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)with James Bond and presenting this guy is like superhero oh James Bond is a SC up correct James Bond is a SC up if you know who wrote the James James Bond novels he was actually an intelligence officer it's to make the intelligence
00:58:30
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)agencies seem cool and like they're protecting you and they're the good guys and then in addition to that they threw in a sexual promiscuity angle for men so that men would think oh this is what I aspire to now there are always always
00:58:43
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)have been men within the population it's a small percentage who were promiscuous they're geared that way they're wired that way they're also usually the most aggressive we needed them to be Fighters however that was not the preponderance
00:58:53
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)of men who acted that way most men wanted to find a woman wanted to cherish her wanted to have children wanted to provide for her well I still feel like that doesn't really answer what would be an effective way to combat that I I
00:59:06
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)still don't know what would my thing that I think the effective way to combat that is number one to raise awareness so that women can understand what they're being presented with well would that be effective through feminism that's my point why would that be effective through feminism feminism is teaching
00:59:19
Nicolethe exact opposite well I'm saying you hijack the movement and you change it the movement has changed so much through time that what do you mean what do you mean by hijack the what what should the new messaging of the new feminist
00:59:29
Nicolemovement be well I mean I think that we understand that um the sexual Revolution and women having casual sex it's been painted as you know as beneficial so if
00:59:41
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you reframe you understand that and you come from a Catholic background but you cannot think that that is what most women are thinking they're not thinking that at all right yeah no you're right that's why I'm saying um it would be
00:59:53
Nicolemore effective to communicate that through saying I'm on your side you know I I feel like it's just not really very effective to um communicate that through saying you know uh just feminism gives a
01:00:05
Nicolereally good framework for saying I support women's Liberation and I think real women's Liberation is Liberation from what from this like things like the sexual Revolution right okay but what was the original goal like sure yeah I
01:00:19
Nicolemean I can say when you ask a woman what's feminism liberating you from she'll say the evil patriarchy yeah and I mean would you say that it's sort of a patriarchy that women are under that um
01:00:30
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)men are using women for just you know sex and I think women are there's there's some women that are complicit in that like for example glorious dyam was part of that frankly I think it's cuz she was ugly and nobody liked her and then she wanted to go ahead and reduce
01:00:43
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)other women to her competitive level cuz she could never compete with a truly beautiful and intelligent woman and so she decided to reduce everybody's worth by doing this yeah I agree I I mean so there's plenty of women and I know uh
01:00:54
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)older women um who go through the feminist thing realize they're miserable they're in their 40s they're childless they don't have kids which I'm not saying every woman needs to do that but they a lot of women will realize that
01:01:05
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)they've missed something and then instead of owning to their mistakes and teaching younger girls to not go that way they enroll them in the same behavior and that is evil and I don't
01:01:17
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)think women should do that completely taking it out of an ideology of like oh it has to be feminism it has to be some movement cuz I think if you if you really focus more more on like an
01:01:27
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)overall morality and that can be your focus but we don't want to do that right like the like this there's been a wave of um we don't want a religion right like America is getting increasing
01:01:39
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)increasingly secularized and so then when we want to create morals we have to then hide behind a political ideology or like like feminism or communism or an
01:01:50
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)ism because we can't align our to to get our morals because we can't align with a religious uh a religion and so then everyone's confused and so that's
01:02:02
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)why it's like oh but now if I'm not a feminist I'm anti-woman and and there's all there's all this kind of weight behind either being a feminist or not being a feminist and and and that's
01:02:12
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)where so now like politics has trying to take the role of what religion used to be in our society and I think that's where it's getting so detrimental grid
01:02:22
TTS/Chat readerOne Motorsports donated $200 conspiracy theory girl can we talk about Disney and the princess effect how about
01:02:31
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)Rockefeller and the public school system so many control mechanisms so little patriarchy I'm not familiar with Disney and the princess effect but I am familiar with Rockefeller the public
01:02:43
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)school system and the way they took over the medical uh system and pretty much just they are advancing a lot of control mechanisms that way because they put people in schools and indoctrinate them from a young age with these thoughts but
01:02:55
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)but I don't the reason I don't think that it it presents well to say I'm a feminist is cuz number one feminism already has such a clear meaning and definition for people does it it really doesn't based on what you guys say about
01:03:08
Carlyfeminism it doesn't because you say things that are completely at odds with what I hear actual people my age who are in college what they think about it it doesn't seem like you're really what do people your age think about it about feminism they don't think that it's a
01:03:20
Carlyconspiracy being you know like an anti satanic conspiracy I think you might have little something going on but I think that I think that's hold on hold on you got to qualify that statement a
01:03:32
Carlylittle bit call crazy even though it's well documented that glorious was C you I think you have a little conspiracy-minded thing going on where you're looking for a conspiracy and everything no I just am informed and
01:03:45
Carlyeducated and I'm not arrogant enough to assume that my ignorance means that somebody else is crazy I mean I can also say I'm informed and educated and I you know like we can go back and forth saying that forever so do you know then
01:03:57
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that what she's saying about Gloria steum is not only correct but that through the Congress for cultural freedom in the' 60s and70s the CIA was pushing feminism through like 40
01:04:06
Carlydifferent Publications around the world they sent you know people to Me Gloria steum was like a CIA operative there's Gloria steum is not the only feminist in the world saying it's not just her I'm
01:04:18
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)saying the Congress for cultural Freedom which was a widespread CIA program that went around the world in dozens of countries and had hundreds of magazines newspaper Outlets all pushing feminism this was
01:04:30
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)not just like one lady this was like a broad effort during the Cold War to kind of differentiate Western liberal values from Russia so they pushed feminism and the sexual re me are you anti like
01:04:44
CarlyClassical liberalism and Western liberal values okay but you're also anti-communist I'm very curious what I mean maybe that's off topic but you can be both you be both communist and you can be against communism and against
01:04:55
NicoleWestern liberalism I don't mean liberalism and like liberal versus conserva liberalism which is the American founding yeah I'm against that okay I'm sorry go oh no you go for it I was just going to say that you know I
01:05:08
Nicolebelieve that you guys can be completely correct like everything you're saying is correct um and how Fe feminism is a scop just I'm saying scop back I feel like that's the best no I I understand what
01:05:18
Nicoleyou're saying I I I think you're I Just Disagree that that would be the best way that's all I I just don't see a better route because I have personally I mean I have the same experience I've never had any friends who are genuine like
01:05:30
Nicolefeminists who read literature um say that they're Pro um casual sex and that it's really healthy for women to do that I've never ever heard that ever well here's what you guys need to understand
01:05:40
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)is that feminism is anything that pushes back against patriarchy and moves toward egalitarianism so if you think the Sexes are equal we should all have equal rights so we can get into rights and
01:05:52
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)what you think that all means but uh anybody who is saying patriarchy is bad is feminist whether they identify or know that or not so if you think that
01:06:03
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)just like oh we have to push for women to be equal with men and women have been historically oppressed that's all feminism whether you think it is or not
01:06:12
Nicolewell I you know um for like egalitarianism and stuff um from my understanding uh you believe that egalitarianism means that men and women
01:06:22
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)are just on equal planes or it means that they should have like equal rights and equality equality of some people would say equality of outcome some people would say equality of opportunity doesn't really yeah but it's on an
01:06:35
Carlyequality of outcome now is what they mean by it um let me think I have to think I'm sorry I just don't think that you guys will ever successfully convince or whatever movement or not movement you want to be a part of will ever
01:06:47
Carlysuccessfully convince the female population that they should not at least I agree with you which is why fight for what sorry continue fight for egalitarianism whatever to what is it that women don't have now what is it that women don't have now that men have
01:07:00
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)I'm not saying that there is an imbalance currently or is there isn't I'm saying that I don't think but do you understand the problem we'll never be able to convince women to not fight for something that they already have if they already have it then what about this
01:07:12
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)problem you're talking about where women are allowing men to mistreat them correct because women the rates of like depression among women women are so unhappy and it's gone like it's there's a correl there's a direct correlation with levels of unhappiness of women
01:07:24
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)documented okay so it sounds like women have something that men don't have which you're claiming is not true but but hold on a second no no no don't do that you're shifting Tides first of all you said that women there that you'll never
01:07:35
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)be able to stop you'll never be able to convince women to stop fighting for e equal rights and I said what is it that we don't have that men have in that department now what she's pointing out is a consequence of that very fight
01:07:48
Carlybecause the supposed well that it's a consequence of the feminism how can you say that there there's a ton of cor because it correlates directly with the rise of the movement but it also correlates with like it correlates with
01:08:00
Carlytime passing it correlates with a bunch 911 you could blame it on 7s do you know what year 911 happened well you didn't mention the 70s I'm saying you could that's I'm saying you could literally point to any random event that happened throughout history and say well this is
01:08:12
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)why women started you're 100% correct the correlation does not equal causation however there is strong connection between these things that we see women who continue along the path that so quote unquote would feminis would get
01:08:25
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you to by the way the extreme of feminism cuz I did study feminism is a lesbian separatist feminism in which they want to live on an island away from men use them for their seen only keep
01:08:36
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)the female I'm not kidding this is a real thing familiar withan look up my issue is number one I don't think men and women should be at each other's throats and this goes for the right-wing
01:08:46
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)movement too which is a little bit of your podcast where they they set they set men up to to see women as these evil like manipulative creatures and then
01:08:59
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)women are set up to see men as these like evil tyrannical power hungry creatures how there are both of these things within the population I've had experience with both of them I'm not saying they don't exist but however to
01:09:10
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)have a movement that continually tells women this is what they want from you sets us up to be unhappy because I believe we are made to be in partnership with the other sex and not at war with
01:09:21
TTS/Chat readerthem I think my problem with just what you're saying in general is I think we're diagnosing the same issue um but not mckin money offer podcast donated
01:09:33
TTS/Chat reader$200 please redirect the conversation to the leftand corner of the table I have a really high run on the number of likes for this show shut up leptonic woman in
01:09:43
Nicoleblack make me [ __ ] U anyway so I was I was just saying I think that we have the same like we're diagnosing the same problem would you agree with that that I'm not
01:09:54
Nicolesure I'm okay I'm saying that my problem is that I think that men are taking advantage of women via Casual Sex and the sexual Revolution correct I also think men themselves are a victim of this
01:10:06
Nicolepropaganda I completely agree but I'm just saying I don't see an effective solution for it other than what I've proposed and I don't see you which hijacking femin I did give one I said I I I believe that we should approach women with compassion raise their
01:10:19
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Consciousness so they can truly understand the problem how how what would be the way to do that well this is one way education speaking up they could read my book and find out the truth about how all of this went down and that it wasn't this Grassroots movement where
01:10:31
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)women looked around in the 1800s went oh my God we're oppressed we have to march in the streets until we have voting rights and bank accounts and that it was just this thing that's time had come because it's complete [ __ ] it's not
01:10:43
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)true and that's not how it happened it was an AstroTurf movement from the beginning from from the 1700s or even further back if you want to go there um so this idea that there is even such a
01:10:54
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)thing as like oh we can have women's rights and egalitarianism only at the behest of the men who are going to enforce it for you anyway so like I think if you if you just get through to women about some of these things it will
01:11:06
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)help but also do we really want to like depend on turning the opinion of women toward how things ought to be well I think that I don't know about that I mean I'm just I'm only referring to the
01:11:18
Nicolesexual Revolution like I'm not talking necessarily about egalitarianism or anything um I I mean you say we approach women with compassion and I mean I think the women who are reading your book are
01:11:29
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)probably already already agree with you correct I get messages every single day from women around the world who thought they were picking it up to debunk it I'm going to prove this [ __ ] wrong and then they read and they go [ __ ] they check
01:11:43
Nicolethe source material and they're like damn she's right and then it changes their mind well I'm sure people can be I I'm sure that um a lot of people will read it and agree with you and change their minds I'm just saying that wouldn't the most effective way to
01:11:55
Nicolechange people's minds who are already feminists be telling women you are being oppressed because of this same thing that we're all agreeing on we can tell them it's bad for them but that doesn't mean they're going to listen especially
01:12:05
Nicolewhen they're young in the entire culture as Le so what's your prescription my prescription is by um basically scoping feminism cuz I mean that's you she want to hijack feminism and hijack feminism
01:12:17
TTS/Chat readeryeah so Brandon Middleton donated $200 feminism gender Theory and RC intertwined with Marxism marxists preach
01:12:29
TTS/Chat readerthe oppressor narrative victim mentality makes people fail and be unhappy that's of the connection to women's unhappiness uh yo thank you Brandon P
01:12:40
Brian AtlasMilton we have another one coming in so I'm just going to preempt it here just in a sec I appreciate it Brandon thank you man appreciate it and then we have oh law paladins I'll just read it we have your shirt is arguing with the
01:12:52
Brian Atlaswrong person the only smart woman other than Miss wilon I've seen on this podcast in the past year she should direct her rage elsewhere I don't talking about you she's she's rage it's the Rage of the
01:13:04
Brian Atlaspink shirt wait am I raging right now I don't think so we do have David treak who says Let's Dance you were good last time ironic shirt meaning for debate or
01:13:14
Brian Atlasdouble onon for dating show grabbing my tin hat now Julia Child was in CIA and she could make a great pie to okay it's a true story tries to receive a nice
01:13:26
Brian Atlascomment thank you there you go yeah see it's not all bad uh you seem you've been scowling for the past 20 minutes what's are do you have input on this com yeah you've been like oh no I've just been
01:13:37
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)like honestly like watching sorry watching back and forth oh okay um I just like I kind of honestly got a little lost in the sauce on what they were talking about because I I couldn't
01:13:49
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)tell whether or not I at first I thought they were saying like oh they're feminists but then I realized that they were saying they're not feminists and so I don't know to me
01:13:59
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)feminism like is just like equality that's it like just women and men being equ do you think it's possible for women to be equal with men and what what do you think equality is I do I think that
01:14:11
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)both genders definitely like bring different things to the table you know like sure you know but what do you mean by equality like what would be an example like equal pay and stuff if they have the same jobs and everything like
01:14:23
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)equal pay you know okay equal rights equal rights okay and then if women have equal rights with men and they have the same opportunities does that mean they should have the same responsibility
01:14:35
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)should you have the same responsibility and authority to go with your rights well I mean I think any adult should you know like I don't think it's it's whether you're man or like a woman I think if you're an adult you should have
01:14:46
Brian Atlasresponsibility and for yourself in general as a person wait Nick hold hold on hold on Nick are we at risk of get getting a nipslip from this chick I don't my nip is in the Border do you have so do you have pasties or anything
01:14:59
Brian Atlasyou can put on no we've talked about this I I definitely like I what do you mean we talked about this like he asked me if um I had pasties and I Nick pull up the chat because they've been probably paying more attention than me hold on got to stop the show pull up the
01:15:11
Brian Atlaschat please uh chat is I it's hard for me to tell I'm paying attention to the conversation this a this C this TV show it's hard for me uh TV it's hard for me
01:15:22
Brian Atlasto tell are we at risk of getting a [ __ ] nip slip from this chick
01:15:28
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)one in the chat if it looks risky CU otherwise we're going to have to you're going to have to put on your jacket or some [ __ ] it's been getting I've been looking it's way too [ __ ] close hey would you stop oppressing her with your
01:15:39
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)toxic masculinity please wa said no she's fine see if these guys were smart they would say no way I know I know what
01:15:51
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)comes with uh the Troubles of a nip slip so if if you guys were in danger I wouldn't risk the biscuit
01:16:00
Brian Atlasso uh they're pretty divided I make sure they're uh tucked tuck them in tucked good I don't know you I'm not a I'm not a woman so I don't know do you guys think
01:16:12
Brian Atlasit's everyone stare at my tits real quick everybody stare at your tit look I got to [ __ ] do it I'm not risking high up your nipples are yeah I don't know where her nipp yeah usually start
01:16:22
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)right here it's a little risky on the left side so maybe you just want half the I think the left side and you're good they're tucked I mean you have a jacket if you
01:16:32
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)if you get it's just a little hot but not too hot I'm like in between being hot and cold but like no I think I pulled up my shirt even more so it
01:16:43
Brian Atlasshould be good maybe just can you put your shirt on a little bit just so we're not there thanks risking this [ __ ] all right all right it should be
01:16:56
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)good it should be good okay so what I wanted to ask is so you just outlined some rights that you think women should have do do women have duties yes they do what what would be an example of women's
01:17:07
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)duties to society well I mean if they choose to be a mother that's one of their duties but like you know people well a duty isn't a choice those things are mutually exclusive so is there a duty that women as a cuz we know men
01:17:19
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)have duties men have a duty to Pro uh protect to provide they have to build all the infrastructure they def so what areen choice I don't think that's
01:17:30
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)really not when there's a a draft and who else is going to build the infrastructure if men don't do it nobody me I just think that men and women could do it you know I think there's there's
01:17:42
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)women in the force like are you saying woman or women because those are different women woman is one wom women is more than one well I'm pronouncing it
01:17:54
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)I guess different than you say but I'm saying women she's saying the plural yeah like women in general I can't hear the difference with a lot of these like younger girls they say the word the same so I wasn't sure um so we know men have
01:18:06
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)duties yes to provide and protect if if men aren't out keeping the electrical grid up there's going to be problems right I mean I know it's more of a man's job but like women can do that job too
01:18:17
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)no they like yes they can you see any women doing that you know what it entails to to create make is impossible they can't do okay but
01:18:28
Carlythere are men who also can't do they are disabled men they SK only people who can do it are men but there I mean but that the thing is there are plenty of men who aren't doing that so you could say it's a man's duty but you can't generalize
01:18:40
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)and say it's all men's Duty just like you can't generalize and say all women's duty is to have children dut of men to provide protect and build the nation they're the only ones can do and lots of
01:18:49
Carlythem physically can't there are some but that doesn't mean that wee who I don't think would last very long I don't see any women that would be able to do it so okay I can agree with that but it
01:19:01
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)doesn't we can we can talk about generalizations and uh outliers but I'm asking do women have any duties to society or is it just she needs to do
01:19:12
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)what makes her happy she just needs to focus women produce the Next Generation yeah that they should but they're not have you guys taken a look at because if
01:19:22
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)at the cuz if you say that the birth rates are lower even Mexicans are below replacement now but like the birth rates are lower but that's not simulated saying that they're not I I agree that
01:19:34
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)there is a there is a decline in terms of the value of motherhood and I personally think that that should be something that is valued again it's a very important role and there should be
01:19:44
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)no shame in in wanting to be a mother and I think a lot of you know as a young woman you get this you're kind of torn where you're you're definitely LED on a path of education and that's important I mean education is great and we're we are
01:19:57
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)a more privileged generation so our parents in general had enough money to like at least want us to get an education we got an education we get a good job and then you get later and then
01:20:07
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)now now you're in the saying ra ra let me finish so you then you have a job you get your job and
01:20:17
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)then all of a sudden you're 29 you are 30 31 32 now you need you have like a short time to get into this relationship to get married the guy feels pressure if you've been on birth
01:20:30
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)control that's going to make it hard to actually conceive because that's going to that impacts your fertility for you have to wait for that stuff to wear off so so there are these problems so it I think that the age of responsibility of
01:20:41
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)motherhood has been pushed out but the problem is that because of like the biological restrictions and limitations of on a woman's body we can't we can't
01:20:53
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)uh right we feel that pressure and so it's it's this Catch 22 and you want to and so I don't think it is a catch 22 though well but it's either you you pursue education and get a career all
01:21:05
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that stuff or you be a mom and that's a hard it's hard it's a hard it's actually not hard at all and here's why because why are we telling young women to take your most fertile years when you should
01:21:16
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)be having babies and spend that entire decade of your 20s chasing an education which the average woman goes $40,000 into debt to get and she makes an average of $40,000 a year which is a
01:21:27
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)terrible deal right so we tell them to go to all this college get into debt to get your degree and then do the career thing like you just said and then all of a sudden at 30 flip a switch and and try to get at least 2.1 babies out of them
01:21:40
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that's stupid and it's never going to happen so why do we give young women that advice and I don't think I think 95% of y'all don't have any business being in a University at all I mean it
01:21:50
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)would be great if you could if you could pause if you could pause like and like yeah take advantage of your fertile years right and then you go into school but like that's you don't need to go to school what do women need to go to school for have you ever taken a look at
01:22:03
Carlywhat they major in who's going to who's going to spread sociology right political science okay who's going to who's going to do this anti-feminist movement if there aren't learned learned
01:22:14
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)women in the world I will say this I will go to college I never went to college I had my first baby at 20 the way the Lord intended and that's beautiful you're obviously you're obviously very
01:22:27
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)intelligent and can speak for I don't need a [ __ ] University in a bunch of debt but I will say what like a a realistic just a reality is it's so
01:22:38
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)expensive now I mean like live in any City you want to be a homeowner why you think college is so expensive and no I'm not saying College I'm saying after college I'm saying you need a job you need yeah cost of living and so and if
01:22:51
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)do you know why that's that way because more people entered the workforce and so which people women entered the work God for feminism I wouldn't be able
01:23:02
TTS/Chat readerto have a triple digit body count and no kids population triple digit question for the panel would you date a guy with 100 plus body count uh show hands if you
01:23:12
Brian Atlaswould no his ability to bond has been destroyed yeah yeah okay she would nobody else oh you would date a guy 100 plus body she's dating a guy with 100 plus body can can I ask continue on with
01:23:22
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)your your so your husband say is Andrew mhm so does he want does he not want your daughters to go to college he doesn't want them to go to college they haven't so far theyve they've done um they've been homeschooled and then they
01:23:35
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)were able to do a little bit of trade school like one of them does Dental Assisting the other one does culinary arts free education no debt something so they have a little job they can do until they get married because the world is
01:23:47
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the way it is I'm not saying I don't understand the situation we're in but I think it's a horrible idea 95% of women they go to college they get [ __ ] degrees and [ __ ] like interior design %
01:23:59
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)of all people do not belong in college they are mentally well I can't say the word but they're not well um but let what so the the issue I think that she was bringing up when you when she was asking you about the rights is people
01:24:10
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)don't understand that the minute there's a right there's also a corresponding Duty on somebody to enforce and allow that right and so actually I think most
01:24:20
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)rights are total BS male and female right um and I don't I'm not in I think you might have the idea that I'm in a prescription that that somehow uh women should go back to being a second tier citizen or something which I don't know
01:24:33
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)that we were I wasn't around in that time to say that we were um I don't necessarily agree that women shouldn't be educated because if women are going to raise children they should be intelligent enough to know how to raise
01:24:43
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)those children and shouldn't raise morons um but I do think that there is a push on all fronts for everybody to go to colleges if they need it and this is just a Ponzi scheme yeah I think
01:24:55
McKenzieintelligence and education are completely separate from college and university you were raising your hand did you have something you wanted to add uh someone kind of already like said it I was just going to mention like they were talking about how like people
01:25:08
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)aren't having kids or aren't raising families and someone already mentioned the cost of living and I was going to say that that's a big here's here's the other part hold on here's the other part okay men do not want to assume Duty
01:25:20
Riley May Lewisbecause they are getting free sex they do not want that don't even men don't even want this that's what I'm saying men don't even want it they don't and do you know what they don't want what free sex yeah men don't want free sex they
01:25:32
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)want a high think they do think they want it though but that's because women are making it so theym women are making it so easy wom pictures on Instagram I think it's both man I think it's both I think men have this idea that they have
01:25:45
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)to rack up I mean look at this men they're they're freely telling you I have triple digit body counts like he's bragging instead of looking at the fact that he's lost all his morality and has subjected women to as an object moral
01:25:57
Riley May Lewis100% it does because you're just using another human being for your own sexual satisfaction sexual satisfaction is much different for men and women for women sexual satis you know having please tell
01:26:08
Riley May Lewisus Dr Ruth what is the difference having sexual relations as women as sorry having sexual relationships as women is
01:26:19
Riley May Lewisemotional sorry go ahead go ahead go ahead no but seriously having sex as a woman is much different than having sex as a man for men it's not emotional it's
01:26:29
Riley May Lewispurely their evolutionary descent you know it's it's Instinct it's built into their brains well there's a lot of men it's emo but I think it takes a certain
01:26:40
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)like moral it like to be a man and to choose not to that's your carnal Instinct that's your most Basic Instinct so to be able to have a reason for but but for the men think there's probably a
01:26:51
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)reason there probably a reason that we want to kill people when they piss us I don't think that's
01:27:00
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)noral it's your most basic carnal physical uh what's that brain called your uh you know your Reptilian Brain right I'm just going to act on my instinct I'm going to do what I desire
01:27:12
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)and that is there's no higher calling there's no self-control there's no any of these values it's for reproduction but that's still yeah but that doesn't that doesn't change the point it's still your most Basic Instinct it takes lot
01:27:24
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)it's a lot harder to actually control yourself but who cares about that isn't there a reason why they have those instincts well let's just put it this way the society where the men just follow their impulse to breed
01:27:35
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)indiscriminately do not produce the best Offspring how do know because you can just who has the most children it's the high value men people like Elon Musk listen I know you have to justify why your boyfriend's cheating on you but
01:27:48
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)it's not my boyfriend is not cheating on me we can call it whatever we want we can label things different ways that man will always be a man even if he cuts off his penis I don't care what the labels
01:27:58
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)are the truth of the fact is what it is now the the fact of the matter is if we follow these Bas instincts to just reproduce indiscriminately it actually does not produce for the best societies and the best raised children that's why
01:28:10
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you don't follow it indiscriminately you get a third world country there's a reason that Western Europeans which have the highest correlation for Morality also produce the most civilized societies can you explain what highest correlation for Morality means sure if
01:28:23
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you want to take a look at who actually has moral prescriptions like um you don't cheat on people you don't steal you don't kill these sorts of things it is the highest in Western European civiliz the correct morals okay so
01:28:35
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you're going to go into moral relativism in which you can decide how about this if somebody just brutally kills somebody you love are you going to say oh that was part of their culture and that's okay no no all right so that lets you know so there is an internal
01:28:48
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)Instinct about what is moral and what isn't we can get into the Communist moralist relativist position that says oh every culture has different morals but then when you actually apply it practically we all agree that children
01:29:00
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)shouldn't be made to be child Brides or child or get married or have sex right so we do have an agreement on morals well where do you find like how do you find out about that moral system because clearly people aren't following that's a
01:29:12
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)very deep and Theological question as well but there there's been a lot of writing on how you find out about the moral things I think some of the things that we can start with is a lot of people do actually have a natural uh reaction to
01:29:24
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)immoral behavior and that's one of the key indications that actually morality is in innate as opposed to taught right right but I mean people still go against it and people still yes they do I've
01:29:35
Nicolegone against it yes but people um justify it as well so how can we live in a society that doesn't justify immoral Behavior well you you have to have moral
01:29:45
TTS/Chat readerleadore XP donated $200 thank why could women comprehend men created the Civilized World electricity paved roads governance Plumbing health care and
01:29:57
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)women think they are equal since they feel entitled to an a woman created that man so well also a lot of those men made that for women before when they had to actually work for TX but that's a
01:30:09
Nicoledifferent story yeah so I'm just saying like how do you say we need to have moral leaders but those moral leaders need to you don't think men have to work for sex it is so much easier for a woman to
01:30:22
Riley May Lewishave sex with a man than it is for a man for a man to have sex with a woman right what what's that in in debate too what did I say that made you well because you you just said to her that men actually had to work to have sex they still do have oh not that much there's a
01:30:35
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)difference between you have to buy a girl drink take her out to dinner woo her for a night versus ex it's extremely hard for a man to have sex with a woman all that a woman has to do is go on the street and open her legs and there it is
01:30:47
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)that is that is 100% correct that's 100% correct but it has never been easier for men to have sex than this current per that's because of the that's because of the woman well do you have a problem do
01:30:58
Riley May Lewisyou have a problem with promiscuity or I I think that not if it's the man doing it well I mean she's yeah no um also you said you're you're on only fans right
01:31:08
Riley May Lewisyeah I do that I mean listen I think that women are making it worse for the men I think that by posting stuff for free on the internet you know to charge for it oh then well how are you um you
01:31:21
Riley May Lewisknow are you do you just accept that you're contributing to the problem or well I I actually think that with the content that I create I'm actually helping the problem I try to support these men and I actually have
01:31:32
Riley May Lewisrelationships with all of these men that are in my D so you are cheating that is emotionally well what if the wom who are man charity are you are you talking about the girlfriend
01:31:44
Riley May Lewisexperience or giving these your off subs the girlfriend experience I am and I I am being there for them in all of their problems all of their needs and I I tried to get them to achieve for
01:31:56
Riley May Lewissomething higher but aren't they just paying you to like you don't know what they pay me for yeah you're right don't that I mean that could be another woman
01:32:06
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)and I mean you're a beautiful woman you obviously are not going to like let's say you attract an guys that are eight and above and that's who you're attracted to okay so if there's a four
01:32:19
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)he's never going to have a chance with you honestly honestly just just just hear me out okay let's say he's the same he he's great guy but then there's an eight and he has the same same makes same amount of money same personality
01:32:31
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)all this stuff you're probably going to choose a eight maybe not but probably so if there's a four and he could be find another a a woman who's a four or a five and she could provide that emotional support that you believe you're
01:32:44
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)providing him and the physical intimacy that he's providing isn't that better isn't that better to let the their relationship rather than I mean in some ways it's kind of self-serving to be oh I'm the man that I'm the woman that's
01:32:55
Riley May Lewissupporting this man and I'm giving him what he needs and I I mean that's that's a very en the problem is that all women date up all women date up okay so okay
01:33:04
Riley May Lewisso a three fine not true no it is true it it's it's I've seen some it's true true it doesn't it really doesn't change the argument make the girl a three no
01:33:17
McKenziesay say your I was going to say I think in the past it was more common for women to date up I think now people at least in my age range even for my own personal experience date men who are just such bums who are not deserving of them cuz I did it for two years but we're talking
01:33:29
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)about I think we're talking about sexual Market values so like hotness so girls go for like low value hot like the guy who's a total scrub and wants to live in your car but he'll give you some good dick like but I think what you're trying
01:33:41
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)to say I'll just say it in a more blunt way is that we're kind of sick of the [ __ ] that these only fans girls are like your friend and they're doing charity work and I'm helping the lonely
01:33:52
Riley May Lewismen out there I'm help helping them I'm counseling them I talk to them that's not helping them if it was helping them you wouldn't be charging them money no no no I I get it I understand and I and I agree I think that women posting
01:34:05
Riley May Lewisinappropriate pictures online is making it easy for these men they don't they don't have to work to achieve these women anymore you know and and I get it I fully do but the content that I
01:34:14
Riley May Lewisproduce on a daily basis I am verely I'm very strongly opinion sorry I I am very strongly opinionated on all of these these things and I really want to make
01:34:26
Riley May Lewissure that men are striving to be the best that they can be actual woman in the flesh it would be called only friends it would be called only friends and you'd be St Riley the
01:34:38
Riley May Lewisonly friends girl who's I'm just saying I'm just saying out of all of the only fans girls I am the best one because I genuinely care about the men on on the platform all you wait you care about
01:34:49
Riley May Lewisthem yes no because all of the content that I produce is for the men it it's for the men you care about the quality of their my social my social media content
01:35:02
Riley May Lewismy social media cont so what is it that you're doing that's charitable and helping them I put out content that shows that feminism is not the way to go I don't agree with feminism I think that
01:35:14
Riley May Lewiswhat would solve all of our problems is if we stopped oppressing people like Andrew Tate pandering do you here we go yeah
01:35:24
Riley May Lewishelping the ins I'm serious I'm serious she's doing it for clickbait that is not true here's the thing though I think just stayed at home and did their jobs cook clean suck [ __ ] everything would be so much you realize you would be burned
01:35:37
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)at the Stak for everything you're doing right now if feminism wasn't in power do you have any idea I I'm I'm I'm sure they would call you a witch and they would burn you at the steak and all the other women would attack you should well I don't know about that but let's we're
01:35:49
Brian Atlaswe're going to do a YouTube poll should we burn Riley let's I think that kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding wait let's do a couple chats then we'll come back to this topic we have Vinnie vidy
01:36:00
Brian Atlascringey uh can I have you read the chats oh yeah okay giving you a job here all right into the mic no like out
01:36:11
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)loud not in your head Emirates sorry thank you thank you I swear speak into your M okay fly Emirates oh damn there it is go ahead
01:36:22
Raikafly Emirates girl is fundamentally asking my psycho philosoph oh philosoph I'm dyslexic guys the wrong person to read you got keep going phical conundrum
01:36:34
Raikacan you manipulate someone into freedom to which I'm not sold on it being possible you [ __ ] killed it you did great that was beautiful uh do you wanten suppor all app wait can I see it again I'm
01:36:50
Nicolesorry okay the gist of it was he doesn't think that you okay so um personally I don't necessarily think that would mean um manipulation because like I said
01:37:03
Nicolefeminism doesn't really mean anything anymore not necessarily because there's so many different veins of feminism there's veins of feminism that say you know we should live on an island away from men and there's veins of feminism
01:37:15
Nicolethat say you should go on only fans and you know do like do that or have casual sex like a man so I'm just saying the most most effective way to um approach
01:37:26
Nicolethis issue that we both see is to um use feminism to um move forward to S
01:37:34
TTS/Chat readerfeminism P yeah Motorsports donated $200 the soul sucker 2000 in the blue sweater if you wanted to help men you would shut down your off get married and
01:37:46
TTS/Chat readerbe a proper submissive wife you won't because you are a degenerate get some help yeah how many dicks have you Su get some help how many how many do you think
01:37:56
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)cuz I'm sure surpris I was I had your your back there yeah thank you gri one Motorsports appreciated I love when see here's my problem with all these like incel Chads on the on the internet who can be Chads
01:38:08
Brian Atlason the internet you want to call grid one top he I know grid one we we he actually saved me from a Bear Once believe it or not okay all right well I apologize camping maybe not him but
01:38:20
TTS/Chat readerthere's a lot of these guys who are like be a submissive wife ated $200 we don't need to waste money on a Stak in fire get the Rocks the Rocks shut up Abdul get the Rocks get the
01:38:32
Brian AtlasRocks sorry Riley getting the rocks and the fire I guess uh okay here hold on really quick back to your point so you're saying we need to like take control over of feminism yeah kind of I mean there already is wait should it be
01:38:45
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the men or the women who take control of feminism I guess wom How much Manpower are you going to need for women to take back feminism well I'm not dening sounds like a lot of man you're we got a lot of
01:38:57
Nicolemale beta simps already in the feminist movement just use them I mean they're more of a liability yeah I mean I'm not saying that men are um as powerful as women or that women have more influence of over men or anything I'm not saying
01:39:10
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)anything like that I'm just saying that feminism is obviously very influential as you guys have you know mentioned and because it's it's basically selling something that appeals to our kind of uh
01:39:21
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)the the things that give us pleasure right away our instant gratification I understand what you're saying I I just don't think it would work because first of all like you said there's so many divisions of feminism yeah so I'm just saying so all you going to do is create
01:39:33
Nicoleanother ineffective chapter why would it be ineffective I mean I'm just saying my in my um experience what what's your opposition to calling it something else I mean I wouldn't mind it I'm just I've
01:39:43
Brian Atlasbeen asking wait Rachel don't you think what ought to take over feminism is it's not a replacement of well it's not a change of feminism it is just
01:39:54
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the re I don't know if it's the reintroduction but patriarchy yeah I think that patriarchy is inevitable it's we're still under a patriarchy but there were a few beta cuck simps that
01:40:05
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)convinced everybody that this women's Liberation stuff was a good idea and those people happen to be powerful Industrials it's like always like a Bill Gates or a Rockefeller right they're a nerd they're sexually unsuccessful they become successful in business they get a
01:40:19
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)lot of money and they're like I'm going to push this destructive you know awful [ __ ] on everybody else and it it opens up the way for those beta type of guys to be able to get some but I that might be the only place that you and I would
01:40:31
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)disagree is that I am Pro patriarchy I'm not really against feminism I don't like to Define myself I'm not sure that I'm anti-patriarchy but I do think here's something that people need to understand absolute power corrupts absolutely so it
01:40:43
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)doesn't matter right now I think we're actually living under a female dominated society and you see this because of the way that women are kind of you know shrieking about not being to kill their
01:40:53
TTS/Chat readerown children which is a whole other thing grid One Motorsports donated 200 we'll do some more chats we'll read more chats after this sorry I have been married 19 years with
01:41:04
TTS/Chat readertwo kids you all fa in comparison to my wife you generates need to wake up and see reality for the first time I like that he supports his wife you know
01:41:15
Brian Atlaswhat's interesting with grid one grid one dude for some reason they always call you they go to theno why they you got he always quotes the incels right I
01:41:26
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)will say this really quick before we move on which is that you're right that it's a very gentric system we're living under Noah
01:41:34
TTS/Chat readerdonated $200 y thank you no Rachel Andrew says go bring him a beer y I would if I was there pumpkin but I'm not you have to have one of the children
01:41:45
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)slaves Do It um wait is that your son no oh okay or one of your kids he's going to have to rely on on child labor since I'm not there right now is all I'm saying right
01:41:57
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)yeah no we're what we have is feminized men running things and then they put all the like the Rockefellers are literally the ones that helped create women's studies and the Ford foundation and put these like man-hating lesbian
01:42:09
Carlyseparatists in charge of all of the University women's studies departments giving them institutional power etc etc you've never been to college how do you know who's in charge of the women's studies departments because you can
01:42:20
Carlyliterally look it up I know but just Google it I actually go I actually go to these scho have you been to Africa I actually go to these do you know that there's black people in Africa I actually go to school and I've actually
01:42:32
Carlyinteracted with professors and been in many classes you went to one school you had your personal experiences of your interaction profess I never ever met a communist Professor like genuinely polyi Department well they're not going to say
01:42:43
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)I'm a communist but they'll have yes they no they won why would Marist they don't consider themselves Communists they will they're not IST they'll say oh well I have met a Marxist Professor but one of also I
01:42:57
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)don't think there's anything wrong with Marxism I'll say ah well here we have the problem this is exact Marxism communism it is Marxism is the that communism oh it's socialism I'm a Social
01:43:08
CarlyDemocrat it's all this it's all the same [ __ ] it's just wait so if if a Marxist is a communist I was I was going to say I have then I I have met one Professor actually but it was not in the women's studies Department it was in the comparative literature dep I do got to
01:43:21
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01:43:55
McKenzieyou read this one go ahead into the mic please oh yeah sorry sorry I have really bad eyes I don't know if I'm going to be able to you got it but uh 10 years military service first to see women in
01:44:06
McKenziecombat MOS MOS most of them quit by getting pregnant or faking injuries equality in relationships we we are not the same we're not the same we're not the same follow Ali Drummond because she
01:44:17
Brian Atlashas a lot to say about that and she has got a she YouTube she been on the show before yeah uh can we have you read this one please into the mic into the mic into
01:44:27
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the mic men have to be exceptional to potentially sleep with an average woman average woman can sleep with exceptional men like breathing this is true that's
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)what I was saying before true hold on her story is an exact example of a below average man sleeping with I I believe you're higher than him well are we talking like looks wise or inside he's
01:44:50
Brian Atlasnot exceptional at all he's sleeping in your car well she's all granted she's in college right so I mean like are we expecting a 18 19 20 year old man to be making six figures I don't expect him to be living in the same car as the girl
01:45:02
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)he's sleeping with and if you can't if you cannot have a place where you can sleep with her you shouldn't be sleeping with a girl and the amount of money you make doesn't correlate to whether or not you're a high value man you don't think so you don't think it would mean that you have any high value qualities if you
01:45:15
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)make a lot of money you have to you have to have did I say yeah yeah did I yeah so I think being a provider does that correlate with being a hard worker can not always but it can but I think it's
01:45:25
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)much more Admiral and much more difficult to be a man of character I think that that's you think that's more impressive of course it what do you think yes I think that's admirable what do you think is like the most admirable
01:45:37
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)characteristics a man can have uh seeker of God lover of God and why is that because I think that's the that's the highest calling a human can be someone that wants to emulate the life of Jesus
01:45:48
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Christ is the hardest and most challenging path to pursue and it s to a person who is like it will is righteous
01:45:57
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)men of character create good societies for people men who pursue money at the expense of everything basically you know I mean that's what we have now I can't get into there's some words we can't say
01:46:09
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)here but um you know if you take a look there there the men that are ruling our society have pursued money at all lengths and in that span they have used
01:46:21
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)and brutalized tons of people people NE which I don't know if you guys are into this conspiracy particularly but we do have um our CIA and Israel Israel
01:46:31
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)CIA say that I don't we're not going to get into [ __ ] Israel Palestine I'm not getting into that I'm getting into the secret agencies CIA mad and MI6 which is Britain's why why can't I say
01:46:42
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)that they're three major power secret agencies okay I thought you were going I don't want to talk about talking about intelligence I'm talking about these three major intelligence world powers who worked together to get blackmail
01:46:55
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)information on people who are not Whitney web read Whitney web's books on this it's very well documented she's all right let me read some chats here there's a little thing we're missing about patriarchy which is that feminism destroyed the
01:47:06
TTS/Chat readerhierarchy $200 you're talking about blue t-shirt bimbo I dare you to go to vsi in Miami and say that can you tell us how many people have died under Marxism and
01:47:17
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)all its failed iterations I'm sure Leo can answer that for you there more people have died on Maris Versa is um in uh Paris in France I think they're
01:47:28
Carlytalking about a Cuban neighborhood all the people who are Cuban refugees all all the rich like slave owning Cubans who fled slave owning Cubans here we go just kidding oh but if they were fleeing Cuba then they were
01:47:41
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)probably we don't need to get into that we don't need to get into that well did you know that more people have died because of Communism and Marxism than all the religious wars put together that is untrue okay she's from Eastern Europe
01:47:52
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)and those people could tell you a thing or two about what ancestors are from Russia well then okay so what's the number of people that have died in religious wars and what's the number that have died under communism I don't
01:48:03
Carlyknow but I know for a fact so how you know it wasn't true okay how I'm familiar with the black book of Communism and like oh all these people have died under communism including people who just died natural deaths like
01:48:14
Carlybut you understand is natural I mean how many how many people have died like under capitalism in Wars induced by capitalist interest do you know about the Bolshevik Revolution having killed 20 million people you never hear about
01:48:26
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)that yeah I mean I'm sure there's plenty of other revolutions that have killed other people for other reasons the Chinese Communist Revolution the revolution under Pino I mean we can keep going I don't and every single one of
01:48:38
Brian Atlasthose systems have resulted in look if you got we we'll talk about that later let me get through the chats please all right we have jerk off Juggernaut brixon I know you're still hung up on that flannel and although
01:48:50
Brian Atlasthey don't have the same scheme legendary whiteall have some really nice color Blends give it a peep unfortunately just not the same blend oh yeah this is from a couple shows shows ago where I was trying to buy a uh like
01:49:01
Brian Atlasa red gray black flannel off of a lesbian and she refused to sell it to me I offered her $150 for the flannel I like flannels and bro you guys literally
01:49:12
Brian Atlas100 people sent me here's the flannel and you sent me like green like not even anywhere I don't know if y'all are colorblind or some [ __ ] y'all sent me the wrong [ __ ] [ __ ] when I say I want a
01:49:24
Brian Atlasspecific flannel I don't want any flannel I want maybe it's you wear the green one so often they just thought you might need an extra one to cycle in I'm
01:49:35
Brian Atlaskidding yeah okay we have Pinkerton thank you for the uh Euro thank you sorry bro I can't get super chat through on streamlabs she knows nothing prattles for an hour then begrudgingly agrees we
01:49:47
Brian Atlasalready established this when she got cooked in the one-on-one oh I think this is for you cooked on the one on one with Andrew also if you don't believe in Jesus take off the cross Christ is
01:49:58
Carlygod um I don't think I begrudgingly agree I might have gotten cooked but also Andrew is a 40-year-old man who debates for a living and I have never debated in my life so you're doing pretty good you know even though I
01:50:11
Brian Atlasdisagree with you thank you thank you I do not agree with Andrew we have jerk off Juggernaut Brian this has to be the most based episode you've ever had feminist brains exploding live brain
01:50:20
Brian Atlasmatter all over the place right meow uh yeah this is really good panel uh very good panel so far we have jerkoff Juggernaut God is a 33-year-old dude these modern women are the reason I
01:50:32
Brian Atlasprefer to stay single y'all need to take in wholeheartedly take in what Rachel and your raven-haired Elder are speaking on [ __ ] real all
01:50:42
Nicoleright thank you guys be my new handle I I have a question I'm not trying to walk back but um you said that patriarchy would be a good um prescription rather than feminism is that what you're saying or I just want
01:50:55
Nicoleto clarify because I thought that the problem was that men have power over women when it comes to sexual um relationships um so how would giving men more power women are giving away their
01:51:08
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)power it used to be it used to be that like a hundred years ago uh upwards of 97% of women were virgins on their wedding night and even if you don't believe that and you think a lot of them
01:51:18
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)were lying let's just say it was 70% let's just say it was 70% okay that still gives men a great incentive to wife you up be if they expect sex
01:51:29
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)when half or more of the women are giving away the milk for free why buy the cow and men don't anymore they just don't but they're also suffering because of that they are because they've lacked
01:51:41
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)their found a bad deal because now they're all stuck in Family Court dealing with that nonsense well there's that and also they're not living up to their purpose so they have no sense of purpose or fulfillment they're also
01:51:52
Riley May Lewisdepressed well then wouldn't we want to talk to the men about that it seems like well we do that's what the whole that's kind of what this podcast is about really I mean the problem is they shut it down everywhere they've shut it down
01:52:03
Riley May Lewisliterally everywhere shut down what that's why I'm saying if everyone just listened to Andrew Tate everything would be fine are you is Andrew Tate your high value boyfriend no is that what we have
01:52:14
Riley May Lewisgoing on here no but CU personally all of the beliefs that you know he tries to push to the public it's about about the patriarchy women should stay home cook
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Leonardo/Julia (mixed)clean have kids be a good mom it would solve all of the issues Andrew T I just say this Andrew Tate is a reason women should have their own bank accounts okay I'm just going to say that right now and why is that
01:52:37
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)because because listen I like Andrew T I think he's fun I like his brother too they're fun they're listen they're a lot of fun okay but if you've never been in a relationship with an Andrew Tate type you have no idea what I'm talking about
01:52:49
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)those people do not know how to how to maintain uh healthy boundaries in a way where they don't actually use their power against women and I know you probably I don't think they do use their power
01:53:01
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)against women um I think they that lots of them do and that's actually what I think they just want a traditional wife traditional if they wanted a Trad no first of all if they wanted a traditional wife they would be
01:53:12
Leonardo/Julia (mixed)monogamous with the wife having kids all that jazz Andre Tate says he is monogamous to each of his women individually I'm not sure if that's true I don't think so I'm pretty sure pretty sure Andrew Tate's got on top of that
01:53:25
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)why do you glorify someone that would literally look on down on you so much is what wife to be a good mother AR there's lots of other higher value men
01:53:37
Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)why AR you being a wife and a mom why are you being an only fans girl who's counseling the Lost young men well you don't even know what I post on only fans but I know that you're not married and having children that's true your high value no but that's but that's not true
01:53:50
Riley May Lewisyou don't know that that's not in the workings all that I want is to be married and is to have kids and take care of them that's all that I want probably not going to happen with thisy I love to hear that but why how does having the only fans get you there well
01:54:02
Riley May Lewisyou don't even know what I post on my only fans but the guy that why tell us said a we I don't know if I want to see it I you guys are just asking to see it at