Rachel Wilson DEBATES Feminists! GOTH GIRL! Fake VlRGlN?! E-GIRLS! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #165

Date: 2024-05-29

Duration: 6h 55m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCeleste X (DT165)>

MMcKenzie (DT165)>

CCarly (DT165)>

JJulia (DT165)>

LLeonardo (DT165)>

RRiley May Lewis (DT165)>

GGaana (DT165)>

RRaika (DT165)>

NNicole (DT165)>

RRachel Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Riley May Lewis(guest)

SPEAKER_04Raika(guest)

SPEAKER_05Nicole(guest)

SPEAKER_07Leonardo/Julia (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_08McKenzie(guest)

SPEAKER_12Gaana(guest)

SPEAKER_13Carly(guest)

SPEAKER_14Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteRachel Wilson introduces herself as 'Mrs Andrew Wilson' with patriarchy day pass joke

“Rachel Wilson: 'I'm Rachel AKA Mrs Andrew Wilson, I'm 43 years old, stay-at-home mom, wife, homemaker, researcher, author — and the patriarchy gave me a day pass to be here via Andrew.' Brian: 'Patriarchy is very generous and benevolent.'”

QuoteRiley May Lewis describes her one-sided open relationship

“Riley: 'I am in a fully committed one-sided open relationship — on his side.' Brian: 'So you're monogamous, he's sleeping with other [women]?' Riley: 'He is allowed to get with anyone and I am not allowed to get with anyone.'”

QuoteRiley justifies one-sided open arrangement with 'high value man' rationale

“Riley: 'He's a very high value man... he provides for me in every single way... he checks every single box a girl could possibly want and every girl goes for a man that's in the top 1% and there's not that much to go around.'”

Key MomentRaika describes year-long situationship where she lived in his car

“Raika: 'He told me he doesn't believe in titles and he didn't want to be exclusive because he wanted to be with multiple women... I kept trying to leave [but went back many times]... he was also my best friend and we were like living in my car together.'”

Key MomentLeonardo gives anti-feminist speech to panel

“Leonardo: 'I try to do my best to tell young women that they're under the thumb of Oppression even though it's being presented to them as Liberation.' Carly responds that she's never heard this in college. Extended debate begins.”

QuoteLeonardo claims Gloria Steinem was in the CIA

“Leonardo: 'Feminism as it is was constructed by the CIA with Gloria Steinem — she was in the CIA. It's very well documented.' He also argues James Bond novels were written by an intelligence officer as a CIA psyop promoting promiscuity.”

QuoteRating round: Brian rates himself a 5

“Brian (host): 'I get myself a five' after guests go around with ratings ranging from 5-7.5.”

Key MomentRachel Wilson's hostile Miami trip story

“Rachel Wilson describes flying to Miami to meet a Hinge match she'd already met in DC; he was immediately hostile upon her arrival ('I can't believe I let a stranger into my house'), they were stuck in a monsoon. She left early.”

QuoteRachel Wilson discloses sex trafficking at ages 18-19 (attributed to Celeste SPEAKER_14)

“Celeste X: 'I was sex trafficked at like 18 and 19... it was like prostitute but was it voluntary... no... the last time was more voluntary because I thought I was going into porn.' Prompted by body count question.”

QuoteCeleste X reveals body count is 50+ due to sex trafficking history

“Celeste: 'I don't really know what my body count is to be honest... it's over 50.' Brian: '50 to 60 or something like that?' Celeste: 'Yeah... I was sex trafficked at 18 and 19.' Panel reacts with empathy.”

QuoteRiley May Lewis claims essentially-virgin body count

“Brian: 'Body count... less than five?' Riley: 'Under five.' Brian: 'Is it zero?' Riley: 'Under five. Zero.' Friend Carly/Gaana laughs. Riley: 'Stop the cap... that's why I stick to anal sex.' Brian: 'I won't even... that like scares me for real.'”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and announcements

Brian's standard intro and announcements. All 10 guests (8 female + Leonardo) introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian asks follow-up questions on content type, tic disorder (McKenzie), relationship with Andrew Wilson (Rachel).

Relationship status round

Round-robin relationship status: single/relationship/situationship, longest relationships, recent breakups. Deep dives into Riley's one-sided open arrangement, Raika's 1-year situationship, Carly getting back together with ex during midterms.

Feminism debate: CIA psyop and sexual Revolution

Primary ongoing debate throughout show. Rachel Wilson and Leonardo argue feminism is a CIA psychological operation (Gloria Steinem/CIA); James Bond as male promiscuity psyop; Communist infiltration of universities. Nicole argues for co-opting feminist label via Catholic framework. Carly disputes conspiracy framing, defends her college experience. Multiple rounds across the show.

Abortion and reproductive rights debate

Extended debate on abortion rights, paper abortion (legal paternal surrender), unilateral reproductive decisions. Brian argues men should have a legal paternal surrender equivalent if women have unilateral abortion access. Rachel argues secular society replaced religion with political ideology. Carly defends current legal status.

Trans issues and gender as social construct

Debate triggered by question 'is it straight for a man to date a trans woman?' Nicole defends social construct framework for gender vs. sex; Rachel and Leonardo argue biological reality; Rachel argues feminists opened the door to trans ideology via Margaret Fuller (1800s gender spectrum writings).

Self-ratings round

Stiffler TTS asks panel to rate their looks 1-10. Rapid responses (mixed diarization): range of 5-11 (one joke '11'). Brian rates himself a 5. Discussion of humility vs confidence in self-ratings.

Egirl/trad-girl online culture discussion

Discussion of right-wing e-girl Twitter drama; Rachel Wilson's post about e-girl trad culture attracted attacks from competing e-girls. Leonardo and Rachel discuss the phenomenon of e-girls positioning themselves as conservative content creators.

Bear vs. man in the woods

Classic debate question: would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear in the woods? Brian asks each guest. Brian follows with: 'If you answer bear, is your answer racist?' Discussion of whether the question has racial implications.

Rachel Wilson Miami trip and singleness fast

Rachel Wilson tells story: met man on Hinge, had met in DC already, he flew her to Miami but instantly became hostile upon her arrival; stuck during monsoon; she slept in same bed while he was mean. Triggered a 70-day singleness fast and 'Encounter With Jesus.' Led to dating a 6-years-younger man briefly.

Bumble swiping segment

Each guest sets an age range then swipes 20 male Bumble profiles. Most guests rejected 18-20/20 profiles. Raika said yes to 1-2 (car Kink, Wranglers). Celeste said yes to 5-6. Rachel's range: 30-45. Discussion of why women are so selective on dating apps.

Body count round

Brian asks everyone's body count at end of show. Celeste X: 50+ (complicated by sex trafficking at 18-19). Under 5: Gaana/Riley area. Riley claims essentially 0 (anal only); friend Gaana visibly skeptical. Rachel: very low, can count on one hand. Brian: won't disclose. Celeste discloses sex trafficking history in detail.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasgoing to see a guy that's under a certain height you know but guys are going to see plus- siiz girls you know what's interesting about you Riley what you read as if you're reading or you speak as if you're reading from a

Brian Atlastelepro what does that even mean like it's kind of like you have a script in your head she's got an earpiece and being by Andre is Andrew are you on are you on

Riley May Lewisthe phone with Andrew Tay right now no I'm just I'm trying to prove if you're listening blink twice and we'll let you I'm trying to prove a point that dating apps are not made for men if you're a girl scrolling on Tinder you're not

Riley May Lewisgoing to see a guy under a certain height but if you're a guy you're going to see a ton of plus-sized scrs wait guys quiet back there please go ahead but if you're a guy you're going to see a ton of plus-sized girls and I I I get

Riley May Lewisheight preferences you know like 60% of women say that they want a guy that's over six feet but you know 78% of men also want a girl who isn't obese but I would a gender date with ay why aren't

Riley May Lewisthere weight preferences on dating apps that's so true why aren't there weight preferences on dating apps I did some charity work also because half of the women that use dating apps know that

Riley May Lewisthey would not you you would be a great politician I I don't know why just until her only fans got leak okay this is all I'm saying is that half the women that use dating apps know that if they put

Riley May Lewistheir actual weight in there they wouldn't get any dates and that's all that I have to say so dating apps are not made for men and no high value men probably are not on there because they don't well well put all right let's get into some I'm going to get oh you know

Brian Atlaswhat let's get into some of the show notes Here we have uh let's do uh Celeste haven't heard from Celeste in a while all right you said you believe in

Brian Atlasequal rights for women yes okay cool the reality of dating as a sex worker especially if you're dating a non-sex

Brian Atlasworker have you had that experience wow that split is [ __ ] up um I've dated majority of the men I've dated have not

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)been sex workers like I've I've never really honestly dated another guy that does it's a problem for them only fans or anything huh it's a problem is it a

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)problem for them the guys um no because going into it they know what I do so it's like not like a surprise to them um but also I'm very respectful like I'm

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)like I don't force anyone into making content with me it's just my thing it's my gig you know if you want to do with me you can but like you know so it's

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)never like really an issue because I don't you know like no one's forced in anything but well has it become a

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)problem like down the road in your relationships um I would say yes and no yes because

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)um financially a lot of the guys don't like how much I make compared to them um why would they not like it how much you because it can be emasculating how much do I make that's kind of a personal tell

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)it's a very personal question but I make a very good amount of money six not a it's not as personal as her butthole though it's not no it's not you can see that online does it say like say $5 a

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)month yes sir and she'll show you her tattoos for 10 can you give us a higher or lower I think it is $5 a month 100K a year higher a million a

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)year okay that's pretty close I'm not going to exclude think about it what I make but I make I'm blessed I'll say that I'm very blessed

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)but also I've been I've worked a long time on what I do and stuff and I didn't recently start making very very good money until like two years and I've been doing it for like four you said that you

Brian Atlasdisagree greatly that people shouldn't wait wait so that's a double negative you disagree greatly that people shouldn't be looked down upon for wait so then you do think people should

Brian Atlasbe looked down upon for doing sex work wait I dis wait hold on help me chat help me par this hold on wait wait hold on let me help me parse this she said I disagree greatly that people shouldn't

Brian Atlasbe looked down upon for doing sex work yeah so people that's a double negative people should be looked down upon that's what so because if you but you you

Brian Atlasdisagree greatly that PE so you disagree probably a typo but what I mean so then so so people should be looked down upon for doing sex work they

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)shouldn't is what I'm saying but I me what you intended to say should there's a moment there's a moment there's a moment of humiliation you just did you knew what she meant see you want an example I brought it up a toxic misog

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)you're just a horrible person I'm a terrible person and also saying that I can completely understand for from people who don't do it um I can understand you got to speak straight

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)into the mic I can understand the judgment and stuff and it's a very taboo thing still so I would you would you uh date somebody who works at McDonald's yes you would I would honestly I would

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)if they had like goals in their life and stuff and this is they don't have goals let assume they don't if they don't have goals in their life then probably not cuz that's a thing that I expected my

Brian Atlaspartner to have goals and just like I do more than just only fans is it looking down on a girl to refuse to date her because she does only fans no I think that's preference okay so I mean I don't think you should look down on them but I

Brian Atlasthink if you don't want to date someone because they do only fans I think that's valid let me ask you a question what if somebody has and only fans but they're

Brian Atlasum I I don't know if I going to throw youall in under the bus what on this do it uh but she's dating a high they're

Brian Atlaslike in furtherance of making money they're lying to their customer base to fleece and siphon more money from them would that be justified reason for like

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)a normie to look down on a sex worker because they're essentially committing a fraud On Their audience I'm not really quite like are you saying like if they said that they weren't with someone and then they were for example a lot of

Brian Atlasgirls offer what they call a girlfriend experience but GF I know I know right but I don't know if I want to like cuz

Carlyoh she he's talking about you all right let's hear it come on out with it but I okay I think the men who are paying for it know that it's not real though it's the feeling that they're

Brian Atlaslooking I okay here I won't I won't say what I was originally going to say but I will say like some girls will not make it clear that're offering the like it it's just a girlfriend experience but

Brian Atlasthe dude's never going to [ __ ] them the girls will actually lead the guys on into thinking that that they they have the the girl has some desire for the man when it couldn't be anything further

Brian Atlasfurther from the truth they in all probability actually have a boyfriend which they keep private from their only fans customers and clients because that would hurt them their bottom line and

Brian Atlasthey're they are basically will fleece their customers uh under the guise of like oh I want to have a relationship with you but that will never ever happen uh would that be

Brian Atlaspretext and justification for a man to look down on a sex worker and be like you're praying on these men who are desirous of having a relationship with you but you're really just using them for their

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)money I mean or do you think that's Justified behavior from sex workers listen dude she already says she's dyslexic why you got to ask me right

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)questions could you put it to the base I don't know there's like so many I told you you Los basically I think he's trying to say like there tends to be a

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)lot of manipulation and deception involved in fleecing dudes as a sex worker so like strippers are notorious for hey baby there was that uh South

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Park episode with raisins the raisins girls hey welcome to raisins like you pretend like you really care and you you like you're you're helping right I'm just helping you do you think okay if men are dumb enough to fall for that

Brian Atlasthough I don't think I don't think the patriarchy is gonna work genu let me ask ask question ask question what do you think about these [ __ ] boy player guys who will tell girls about their romantic

Brian Atlasromantic interest in them in furtherance of [ __ ] them and never talking to them again is that if the woman's just dumb enough right if she's just dumb enough to fall for the [ __ ] boy who's saying babe I love you I want to be with

Brian Atlasyou and then he [ __ ] her and never talks to her again is that her being a dumbass in some cases yes sure but is there some culpability on the guy's part

Carlyfor men are paying a woman I'm saying if you are paying a woman for attention and you're not smart enough to realize that you are a paying customer for a service you're not that bright a man who is

Carlygiving a woman affection for free and leading her on in the sense that he wants a relationship there's no mon there's no transaction there I think some women are incredibly dumb and let men lead them on for way too long and they need to you know get it together

Carlysome of these guys are very good at being but some it's genuine emotional manipulation men are paying for a service when I go to Target and I buy something I don't think that the the cashier is my friend like I realiz well

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that's a bad example cuz you're not really paying the cashier but like I yeah you're dumb if you think that you're paying for something but don't women do the same thing when some guy is like oh baby I really love you and I sure I care about about you and you're

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the only girl for me we all know they're trying to [ __ ] we all know that what men are trying to do is [ __ ] so you could say the same thing about wom say that to me and be genuine and I think that's the problem is that some men are genuine and

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)some aren't and it's not always easy to tell who is who but I thing called when you like as soon as the guy what's that thing called when they love boming what

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)love bombing ejaculate and evacuate yes yes thank you okay what about it so maybe the guy is serious or and being honest and then that happens and then he

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)loses interest well from the guy's perspective a guy might look and go well okay look the average woman wants me to take her on a date she wants me to pay for the meal she wants me to come pick her up uh it can't be the Waffle House

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)it has to be somewhere really nice we've all seen these videos of women demanding like a five-star restaurant for the first date that sort of thing so they're thinking okay the average woman wants me to pay to get her time and attention and

Carlylike the only fans girl the stripper only wants 20 bucks like well then that's fine if you want to opt for that but you should be smart enough to realize that it's not genuine and that you're paying customer I think for a lot

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)of men they basically look at women and go okay you see me as a wallet or an ATM I see you as a vagina right like and it is transactional now in the C in that

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)case we looking down on the woman for parti said you wouldn't date a guy who worked at McDonald's and had no Ambitions that's just because like I

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)have ambition he's black no no wait what no we guys have no sense of humor this whole podcast dude so funny thank you

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)though I I have this one on my side thank you for that okay but but but okay so here's the deal she's joking by the way yeah it's a joke it's all a joke what's wrong with people and anyway so the question that I have though cuz you

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)see this is where we have a problem uh women who go on only fans they make a ton of money right and then all of a sudden they start rating themselves value wise with men this way and you

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)don't realize what's happening is you're literally getting paid for your vagina like that's what's happening right I mean yes pretty much it doesn't really listen to me it doesn't it

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)doesn't really involve a whole lot of skill you don't even have to be that good-looking cuz Men actually have a lower standard of looks for I like they find more women attractive than women find men attractive you can put some

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)makeup on do some stuff do some lighting all that right so there there's a kind of inflated sense of what you would actually be matched with because the guy

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)at McDonald's might actually have an equal level of skills I mean gu but I'm like if the guy at McDonald's doesn't at least have something he wants to do past that like I have other things I want to do past my only fans then I'm like I

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)don't know like like what what do you how are we going to transition from the only fans to the I'm also I'm also a tattoo artist I'm a photographer and I'm also a I do videograph

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)um and I also like I also have a clothing brand I make clothing like it's I I do a ton of other things and I have and I also like I'm smart with my money I have savings so if I wanted to go to

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)school and um which I've thought about it recently but um if I want to go to school I can easily go to school and I'm you think that the neck tattoos and the face stuff and the piercings and the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)only fans might potentially hold you back in life I think um it depends on what occupation but also I think as time goes on people are

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)more accepting and find it like kids nowadays um find it relatable and stuff like tattoos and all that like so I don't think it's going to be as judged as the old generation does you know but

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)but when you're my age right and and all the tattoos that are up here start to be down here you know what I'm saying like gravity kicks in if I get to your age yes well hopefully you'll get to my age

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)I'm not hoping anything Happ straight in your mic like you want to live into your 40s and 50s right I mean like that's the goal she has a satanic tattoo on her

Brian Atlasbody well fair enough fair enough well I'm just saying hold on okay no it's funny uh Old Hickory dick longm emad's girl wears a real Madrid shirt but

Brian Atlasprobably doesn't know where Madrid is go around and ask everyone to name three countries I'm going to go first do you know where Madrid is in Spain it's in Spain uh starting with you name three

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)countries go ahead three countries yeah quick go oh right uh Greece um we got

McKenziethis Belgium and uh Germany cool United States Canada Mexico oh you can't do those uh uh France I don't know other

Carlyones but other on quick two two two more two more go no you can't you can't help go ahead well there's Greenland Iceland okay Ethiopia Japan Brazil Nigeria

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)Uruguay Chile tilt your mic down please [ __ ] neria Uruguay Chile heard so easy Europe Africa Asia Italy Argentina

GaanaPeru I was going to say all right you got to come up with something else something new okay there's lots of them I know and I can't even think of one cuz they took all C mon they'll never get it

Brian Atlasyou can't oh my God don't cheat okay shut up The Sisterhood kicking in next oh fr France Spain Italy I think

Nicolepeople already said those the challenge gets harder what about here I don't know Maldives uh India uh Sri Lanka yes those

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the last two I mean okay I can do Pakistan um that was that was a joke sorry okay Rachel Ireland

Brian AtlasNetherlands uh let's pick something exotic Laos there you go Celeste you said that you had the dude that lied about his age completely after sleeping together and

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)also did some pretty weird things yeah so how old was he okay so when I met him um he said he was 25 years old hold on

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)hold on please pull up your jacket up please just throw it over the shoulder zip that [ __ ] up a little bit there we go okay go ahead um when I met him he

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)said he was 25 years old and after we like went on a couple dates and I like we ended up like sleeping together uh he told me he was

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)35 oh so he was older okay yeah and he did some weird things like uh just like you know how usually you would like tell thing tell people if you're like into

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)like weird things and stuff well like he kind of just um like in the beginning in the initiation of like I guess uh sex he

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)like put my armpits up arms up and smelt my armpits and that was old very new and different to me and I was just like he smelled he was like he was just into

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that like older men like phermones that's [ __ ] disgusting yeah it was just very I didn't know he was into that

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)either so it was just very random [ __ ] okay yeah that sounds like a high te male right there but hvm high value now

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)for sure well I don't know about that but high tea he had oh he had high tea yeah well you've had a guy yeah they like of course they're they want to smell your womanly stuff coming out of

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you so wait would he like did you hook up with him multiple times true what do you got you guys are dating simps for real your guys are like practically gay if he doesn't want to smell you would you uh have you had the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)experience of he would like tell you not to shower no thankfully yes thankfully you had that okay all right let's see

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)you uh how it's he said he was 25 but he was actually 35 he was actually 35 but he just like you know he was actually 35

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)um he like looked young for his age but the more I looked at him after he told me I was like it's kind of adding up I can kind of see it now yeah I mean even

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)for like yeah even for men there's pretty big difference between like 35 and 25 yeah I just hug I just I just thought he you know didn't have the best

Brian Atlashair or something I don't know but oh he's losing yeah okay you said you also said men shouldn't be allowed to tell their girlfriends if they can or can't to only fans same for the opposite side of the coin of course well yeah like if

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)you are going to get into a relationship with a significant other whether it be your boyfriend or your girlfriend I don't think you should be allowed to tell them if they can or can't do

Brian Atlassomething other you know you can just like break up with them I agree yeah kind of like how like if there's a robber breaking into the house or something I don't think my girlfriend should tell me that I should deal with

Brian Atlasit I should use her as a meat shield and she can take care of the home Intruder I agree with you this is a false equivalent she a independent woman I agree with toally valid all the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)feminists should have to be me I don't think think either of the people should have to fight the robber I'm like it's Choice well you're both going to die you [ __ ] work that's your choice can I tell my home invasion story sure okay so

Brian Atlaswe had a home invasion some years back maybe is this the one where like they stole Andrew's Firearms yes okay and so it was like 5:00 a.m. 4:00 or 5 a.m. and

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)my dogs were barking like crazy at my window and at first I kind of like ignored them and I was like wait why are they at my window cuz they're normally like out back and so I was like [ __ ] and I woke up Andrew I was like Hey dogs are

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)barking something's going on and I could hear something in the basement and so could he where we're both like trained Firearms instructors but he took a shotgun went to the top of the basement steps cuz we could hear that they were

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)downstairs we had kids in the back bedroom and Andrew had previously like instructed us and we had practiced this and everybody out there with kids you should do this practice what you're going to do if something like this

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)happens so that at 4: in the morning when you're not even with it you know what to do but I'm you know in the back bedroom you have to get through me to get to the kids you have to get through

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)him to get to me kind of like that whole Christ man wife child thing and Andrew went to the top of the steps and pumped a shotgun and yelled out a warning to the people that were in our basement and

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)they fled he didn't end up having to you know do anything but he scared them with the pump of the shotgun and his loud masculine voice and they ran off and uh

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)we were all fine but all that just to say like do you really want to be you want a man who's like sweetie get the shotgun and go go go scare away

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)The Intruders of course you don't I mean Nick could you close the door honestly I wouldn't I wouldn't want to put the the love of my life in danger like that either

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)way whole family's in danger when you C I'm going out the window CRA that are trying tole have one of those little kid backpacks or see this is one of the

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)problems of feminism it has made us forget I remember one time I was on a date with this guy I was on a date with this guy and uh we were walking down the street it was in New York City push it the opp the other way okay I don't know what you're talking about so I was on a

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)date with this guy my in my feminist days and uh we were walking down the street and some crazy looking dude starts coming after us and I kind of like leaned into him a little bit and he

TTS/Chat readerwas like he was British he go how Toast Man donated $200 just wanted to say this is one of the best panels you've had in a while Brian a goodan woman in the center in

TTS/Chat readerblack is hilarious and Sassy Rachel is much better than Andrew doesn't talk over everyone take that hey powdered toast man thank you man appreciate the is amazing don't you defame him he's

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)wonderful thank you man appreciate it um you want to finish with so so I leaned into him when I saw this guy coming at us and then he goes oh well you know you could probably defend us better than I could and I was like like even though I

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)was a feminist I felt something in my gut s your OV shriveled sink inside me and I was like why is that so gross and then my feminist brain was like you shouldn't need a man to protect you and then but still I I didn't go on another

Brian Atlasdate so so I'm going to get to my I have two questions I got to get to my notes with Nicole got to get to my notes to Julia and then we have some from Rachel so I'll try to get through it as quickly

Brian Atlasas possible uh Nicole you said that you consider yourself more moderate you're probably leaning a bit more conservative but you subscribe to a lot more liberal

Nicolesociological concepts like gender Theory yeah what do you mean by that okay so so um basically that just means that I've seen a lot of discussion on what a woman

Nicoleis and I subscribe to the theory that gender is um performance so um what does that mean that means like okay so that means that

TTS/Chat readerum basically when you perceive people you a lot powder toast Mand donated $200 Wow Let's Dance girl in blue is Bay

TTS/Chat readerWould S but seriously have ra on more she's much more pleasant than Andrew Andrew causes things to be way too combative and it throws the whole show

Brian Atlasoff emo he's way more entertaining if that's what you're getting at than I am all right thank you powdered toast man appreciate it you were saying gender is

Nicoleperformance yeah essentially because um you know we I hear a lot of people talk about biology and like reduce everything down to biology but the fact of the matter is that we don't check each

Nicoleother's chromosomes when we see each other but we know if you're a man or a woman when you see them so um yeah and also I really don't like the biological

Nicolelike reductivism kind of because anyways because um um because come on let okay sorry because I'm um I'm Catholic and I do believe that gender roles are

Nicoleimportant but the thing is those are gender roles they're not like biological roles I think that Society should enforce gender roles and a lot of conservatives just boil it down to well

Nicolelike it's just what you have in your pants I'm I think it's a lot more than that so that's what I mean by that so like if you erroneous erroneous hold on

Brian Atlasthat was just a whole bunch of word salad sorry no no no you shouldn't apologize um well let me let me just ask you then what is a woman sure okay so a

Nicolewoman in the gender sense in the sociological sense is someone that does the duties that um are aligned

Nicolewith the female sex so you think a woman is someone who acts like a woman um I think that you know what it does become kind of a um difficult question but in

Nicolethe same way that I think race is a social construct because race is just what someone looks like I got to jump in on this one I'm about to they're going to be so mad when you say the word social con be careful I know okay just

Nicolebecause something is social construct doesn't mean it's not real too thank you they do not understand you don't understand the meaning of your word no no no wait wait listen listen language is a social construct language is completely real language has rules in

Nicolethe same way that gender has rules gender has roles I think that people should align with the roles that are with their sex but that doesn't mean that the roles themselves are biological I think that's dumb here let me have

Brian Atlaseverybody's answer to the question what is a woman moving starting from you moving that way go ahead starting from who yeah okay you answered then you then

Raikaaround the table okay so AUM holy [ __ ] yes go ahead um into the mic please I mean I don't want to say like what's between your legs because people are

Raikagoing to come at me for that but well tell us how you really feel I guess I don't know I I mean yeah like I I think like you know based on what genitalia

Raikayou have like that's the you are but do I think people are transgender like yeah I support transgender people hold on let people answer no I have the same exact answer as her I

TTS/Chat readerdon't want to go more in depth about that SK for Christ is Lord donated $200 your grandmother and her grandmother going back through all human

TTS/Chat readerhistory never struggled defining men and women do you honestly think this generation is more enlightened than your ancestors yes no can I answer that or well well

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)let's get everybody's answer to this question go ahead I think a woman is someone with breasts and a vagina okay it's an adult female but there's but by the way this shows you that there is

Carlyabsolutely no Marxist training in schools that there are two responses there a human adult with twox chromosomes I think it

Carlydescribes what I'm trying to say this in a way that's concise I'm sorry it describes what is expected of someone who is born with female chromosomes and female female parts but it describes

Carlymore than just the parts it describes what we expect of them what their role is in

Brian Atlassociety um I honestly I agree with you but also kind of here just for moving on forward it's better to just actually State your position than just say I agree with this

McKenzieperson just State your actual position okay well a human adult with two ex chromosones that is also born with the parts of of woman um a human that

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)presents themselves as a woman you know isn't that a bit circular it's very circular like but we'll get to that yeah that's just what I think like if you

Nicolepresent yourself as a woman and that's what you go by then you're a woman okay wait so go ahead with your point yeah so um the person that did the

Nicolechat um they said that um you know people aren't confused or people back in the day weren't confused about their gender or anything and I think that's true I think that people are using

Nicolebiology because I don't think that men should um or people who are born with XY chromosomes should take on the role that women have but that's you know if you just reduce it to biology then it

Nicoledoesn't matter because it's just oh they're they're just a man regardless like I think a woman is the role I don't think a woman is the chromosomes I want to kind of try since it's a dating podcast let me frame it a bit

Brian Atlasfrom a dating angle let me ask I'll try to ask this fairly simple question here for you uh would you object to a man not

Nicolewanting to date a transgender woman no I would not you wouldn't object no is a transgender woman a woman um I think that see that's where it gets tough because I like I was trying to say

Nicolebefore I think race is a social construct as well it's just what you look like but I think it's inappropriate for a person to try and change what their race looks like like um someone might take on the race like change their

Nicoleappearance so they look like A different race I don't think that's right but if it's a social construct why can't they just fit into another social construct well I guess they could but I don't think it's right well that means you're pointing out objective reality that yeah

Nicolewas that was me yeah so my point is that I don't support this change in the social construct I think it's a social rule for a reason so where did the social rule come from it comes from I

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)guess it comes from society that's why I know but that's circular there cuz it's a social construct that comes from society where does society get it from wait what that do that's what a social construct is something that's socially so where where does it where does

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)society what is society made of society is made of people right and where do these people get this idea of a social construct I know it's the same way that culture is a social idea like where does it come from we don't know no no no it's not that's not true at all you have to have a place that it comes from are

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)people just pulling things out of the air and then saying this is is a man and this is a woman I mean I know we're doing that now but is this what people have done from the beginning of time well I mean I a lot of um the social role of women comes from biology the

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)social role of women is going to be separate for this discussion from what a woman is and it's going to be the the social role of let's say you know a different uh race is also going to be separate from what a race is so if

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you're going to say this is why the social construct argument doesn't make any sense because a social construct has to be created by someone it's created by people what did they use to create it an arbitrary standard or did they look at

Nicoleobjective things in reality and Define it accordingly well you agree that women have a social role right Which social role like you know women are typically

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)supposed to supposed to or inclined to I guess inclined to well that's a different thing because when you say supposed to that means it's been enforced upon them from the outside which fits into your social construct

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)societies creating this to oppress women to oppress different races as opposed to an inclination that comes from the biology towards these things I think that people can be like people can use

Nicoletheir biology and it that you know ties into the role I don't think they're divorced from each other I don't think being a woman and being female because um the thing is when I say woman I'm talking about the social role that's

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)what I'm talking about you redefine terms to fit your argument and then we can't that's not a redefinition though that is a redefinition let me ask you a question again bringing

Brian Atlasit back to dating is it straight for a man to date a transwoman wait is it straight for a man

Nicoleto date a transwoman would it be straight for a say a biological male to date a trans woman um okay I don't think who is a biological male okay yeah I

Nicoledon't think it's straight for the man to continually date and see the transwoman but I don't don't see how it's gay for the for a person to be attracted to a person who is feminine or that looks like a woman it's not really the

Brian Atlasquestion though homosexual that's what I'm talking about by definition homosexual well I mean like but so is would it be would it be straight for a man to date a trans woman no that's not

Nicolestraight to date yeah I'm just saying if someone is attracted to someone who looks like a woman I don't think that's gay how is that gay that doesn't make sense that wasn't his question that wasn't his question that's what I'm talking about you will often take the

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)question no she didn't said pip down she did not answer the question and pip down she often does is she changes the question into an easier question to answer than the position that we're asking about no I didn't I answered the

Brian Atlasquestion I said it's not straight to date a transom that's what I said I said but isn't the so the definition okay well I don't know if this really makes so straight is like short form

Brian Atlasslaying for heterosexual right yeah right so when when we how could it if if a so would your argument then shift to be a

Nicoletransgender woman is not a woman um again I think that I'm I'm talking about okay when we talk about biology and we talk about social roles these are different things okay one

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)question is a transgender woman male or female uh they are male okay all right I actually I don't want to linger too long on this specific topic I mean you're kind of right when you say it's just fashion because when

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)men pretend to be women they think it's just a dress up costume like that's what I'm saying that what do you think but why should we honor that why should we why should we affirm or respect honestly most of the time it's more of a fetish

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)anyways yes it is most of the time these men are dressing up as the woman that they would want to bang or their fantasy of what that woman would do with them feminists autophilia but feminists open

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the door for this uh Margaret Fuller was writing in the 1800s about gender as a spectrum and everybody being a some somewhere on the Spectrum and gender abolition this is all feminist ideology

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)as well so when which is all communist ideology when they get when they get mad about like uh men and women's sports I just laugh cuz I'm like you did it to yourself here let's uh switch gears a

Brian Atlaslittle bit here Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead seven I was say like a six or seven

Raikadon't do that to yourself six I'm an 11 I'd say seven uh six I'd say a 7.5 I a six I'm a five

Brian AtlasI get myself a five thank you Stiffler appreciate it man all right we got some humble people here on the chat appreciate it guys we do have a chat here from law paladins I'll read this

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)quickly actually can I have you read it um question for comedian where did you learn logic SL debate I've never seen someone break down the circular

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)logic of society so quickly SL easily oh I I was a logic teacher for 14 years so oh really that's awesome okay nice nice sorry to come in I should have should have put that on the table so everybody

Brian Atlasyeah you should have uh you kept that disclaimer uh let's see getting into some of the other notes here from Nicole you said you like to call yourself a feminist but I think I'm more

Nicoletraditional in the in the way that you guys describe it on whatever yes so I like I said in the beginning that I kind of like the approach of scoping feminist is M I think it's the most effective

Nicoleapproach because I actually do really care about women a lot and I think that women are playing themselves when they just have casual sex and stuff like that so um that's why I don't know I that's

Nicolemy Approach and it seems to work with the people that I've talked to and my friends just anecdotally um and I don't really see so far I haven't seen a more effective solution so um yeah that's why

NicoleI like to call myself to sop feminism yeah I just mean I like to twist feminis ISM into basically just being I you know I say I'm a feminist and I quote feminists but I go off of because I'm

NicoleCatholic and that like informs a lot of my worldview I'm still very Catholic so um I just I just like to I just like to

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)refer to feminists that um follow my um Catholic worldview does that make sense no I'm still so confused it's been hours of you saying this and I want I want to

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)understand but I'm still found worldview is built is based on your faith right and then the level above that is based on these certain ideologies and so you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)are only inclined towards the ones which already can can be aligned with your faith yeah as you perceive it wait but Ben George donated $200 thank Ben Geor

TTS/Chat readerthere is no such thing as social constructs there is only reality you can't transition into something you're not period okay no pun intended why have

TTS/Chat readerwomen dropped the argument against appropriation I agree we haven't is it we haven't yeah it's totally appropriation they're approp appropriating yeah well they're doing

Nicolemore than so horrific but my point about um feminism I think that just anecdotally like on a on a one toone level when it comes to girls that I talk to that are like you know they're sleeping around and they're keep getting

Nicolehurt over and over again when I say I want this for you because I'm Catholic and I believe this because of I'm Catholic they just shut down like they don't want to listen to me but when I say I am a feminist too and I believe

Nicolethat this isn't you know helpful for you because I am proom like I do support women and I want you to be in a more healthy mind mindset or a more healthy lifestyle then that's that's what I mean wait I have a question that makes a lot

Brian Atlasof sense I got I got a question you're Catholic right yeah I'm Catholic now I'm not an expert in the Catholic faith but uh isn't it the case that uh under Catholicism women can't be uh like

Brian Atlaspreachers they can't be Cardinals they can't be uh Bishops they can't be anything under Catholicism yes but that's just because the priests don't want to molest them what the [ __ ] okay

Brian Atlasuh but you're a feminist so wouldn't your feminist so feminism equality how do you reconcile the Catholic faith of

Nicoleuh barring women from positions of authority in the church with being feminist well I don't think that feminism in at least in the way that I'm using it means that women

Nicoleshould take positions of power in the church I think that it means that women are happier when they where women tend to be happier when they do um I guess the things that they ought to do within

Nicolethe cathol social construct of what they should do I mean yes exactly like pretty much interesting the way the social construct lines up with their own inclinations towards happiness well yeah exactly I mean what what else would it

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)be I guess I don't understand how you're a feminine fist then she's using it she's using it in a different way that's the thing you have to understand the the term feminism does not mean the same thing to her is what we're think what

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)does it mean to you cuz like I think I've asked that like three four or five times and I don't understand how you're feminist what how is that different from patriarchy in your like if you don't want patriarchy and you're a feminist

Nicolewhat's the difference I'm using the word feminist to mean that I am proman when I talk to other women that's what I mean I mean wouldn't it be Pro women to allow women to be Bishops and Cardinals within the Catholic faith I think it's proom to

Nicoledo things that are beneficial to women and I don't think it's beneficial to women to have them take positions of power should women should women be able to participate in the workforce um I mean I guess I so why why shouldn't

Nicolewomen be able to participate in the uh uh the hierarchy of the church because work why would that not be beneficial to women because work and the church and

Nicolethe church Authority is a lot different um the church uh the priest takes on the Persona of Jesus in the mass and women cannot do

Nicolethat and women women have their own role in the church and it's not that women can be I mean obviously very nurturing and women um I mean women have children

Nicoleand but how are you not a patriarch well I mean I guess what does patriarchy mean it just means it means ruled by the father okay so you are a patriarchy but

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)you're just saying you're a feminist in order when we go into her world this it's a it's the Bizarro universe and the words flip well I don't think that's fair I understand exactly what she's saying I don't I don't totally agree

Carlybecause I'm not a Catholic like I don't necessarily agree with you on what the gender rules like should be or what people ought to do but I understand that your personal views under Catholicism about the church you're not saying that

CarlyNE you agree with all the tenants of feminism you're talking about using feminism to promote the general well of women what you think that is it doesn't necessarily aign ter feminism I'm

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)speaking you're using the term to you think that's the best way to promote the general well-being of women and their welfare even that sounds like a bunch of woman prattle [ __ ] to me I'm sorry

Carlynot do you not agree with is patriarchy when I say feminism I mean it's just like well no she's she's not saying

CarlyHerm her personal views no she's such a woman thing to do feminism I actually mean patriarchy speaking about two different things she's talking about using

Nicolefeminism meeting women where they are yeah right women are more inclined I don't actually disagree with what your little are more inclined to listen because you're talking about one it's

Nicoleevangelism I mean yeah I want to meet people where they're at like I really do want to understand other people I don't think that's a bad idea and if people are using the word feminism to describe things like I feel oppressed woman

Brian Atlasimpressed by this yeah I so I think the best the best way to people they to do that meet no no no no no I think the patriarchy's got to come in and smash feminism I kind of like this all is

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)making what I'm realizing listening to this is that I long for a time when we didn't have to convince women I long for a time when we didn't have to be like figure out how to like pull them in and

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)make them agree it's like how about we just say this is what you do this this is your are things you're allowed to do yeah I mean let's tell the men too cuz they're not stepping up I I don't I just don't think that's a very effective way

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)to um I think it's extremely effective because men have the Monopoly on and if they just say no tomorrow if the men just say eh you know what no your feminism stuff you're women and making

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the choices and doing what you want just know how about that obious sounds that's a bad sales Tac I don't want to sell women on the patriarchy shees care dude

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)she's a tyrannical dictator be an it will be a NeverEnding it will be a NeverEnding torture chamber of but what about and but what about but what about my feelings and but what about what I

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)want why you to be so let me just put let me just say this let me just say this okay ladies let me just say this okay ever since I became redpilled Bas conspiracy woman my marriage proposals have gone through the roof so if you

Brian Atlasladies are trying to lock in a man just say something racist and you're good to go [ __ ] that's not true you know what though like I I do think it's actually a

Carlybig red flag for a lot of men if a woman isn't racist is a feminist they love me they're being really nice they might like very pretty than you're going to

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)trct all the AR saying the same thing at my age oh it would be over for you also they're not going to tell you but I'm telling you this they all have this thought in the back of their mind as soon as you say you're a feminist unless he's like

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)really I understand but in the back I got to meet your boyfriend I got to see what his testosterone levels are at but most of the time these dudes with high tea and that really have ambition in the back of their mind as soon as you say

Leonardo/Julia (mixed)feminist oh this is going to be a problem always always always always and they're they're that keeps them from being like let's go full Full Throttle and like marry this chick and like do have kids and all that I do have to move

Brian Atlasthings on a little bit Nicole you said you're extremely religious ex showed up to your house to tell your parents that you were a lesbian because he was trying to save you yes so that's where we got the lesbian a

Brian Atlaslesbian oh maybe that's what it was I'm not a lesbian though in in the state of limerance she wrote a 20page document within 2 weeks all about the the guy who

Brian Atlastried to say you were lesbian that that you liked that I had known only online for a while previously and then he drove out to see you in DC and I immediately stopped liking him and you ceased all contact with him after we were good

Nicolefriends for a good three years yeah that did happen yeah I don't know I I don't even know what happened I don't know why I just got into this St I was friends with this guy for so long like we weren't that close but then he I don't

Nicoleknow he didn't even really like me I just I was like obsessed with him and then um I only knew him online because he was friends with um my friend's cousin who I would play video games with

Brian Atlasso that's why and you really wrote a 20page document about yeah I did I don't know what was wrong with me I just I lost my life that is Love by the way Pinkerton I think we missed this I don't know if you're still in chat thank you

Brian Atlasfor the 20 gift memberships uh couple more notes here then we're going to get to Julia uh going to you you said hookup culture is bad for women I don't think anybody disagrees you had some disagreements though with uh myself for

Brian Atlasthe show you said that you disagree that there's nothing suspect about age Gap relationships and that it doesn't matter do you care to elaborate a little bit yeah sure actually I was doing a lot of you know reflection before the show to

Nicolemake sure I could you know like really articulate my points if I disagreed so I actually did change my mind about that I don't think that agap relationships are a big deal but I think when people have an about something they should really

Nicolefigure out why and I realized it was just because it often comes with the power imbalance but just in the same way I would feel that way if someone who's really rich was dating someone who's really poor um and I don't what's wrong with that well I don't think there's

Nicoleanything necessarily wrong with it I just think it's really easy for someone to abuse their power in that situation so I guess the threat of someone abusing their power is what makes me uncomfortable it's not the relationship

Nicolebecause I think people can have completely genuine real um age Gap relationships and I also do think let ask your question though on the on the rich poor

Brian Atlascomponent couldn't you make the argument that actually when it comes to abusive Behavior the person who's poor who's seeking out the rich person is much more

Brian Atlaslikely to be the one who's trying to get something out of it as composed to the rich person yeah that's what I meant that's what I meant

Brian Atlaslike it seemed like the rich person is going to abuse like I it that doesn't I don't know no that's fin abuse can happen too though like the rich person can you know yeah it's just there's clearly you you don't really even have

Nicoleto be rich to to yeah there's just clearly a dynamic there and I realized that I was uncomfortable with um the thought that someone could very easily abuse their power in that situation not necessarily with the relationship so I changed my mind on that I think there's

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)a knee-jerk reaction when people think the woman is being manipulated everyone's innate reaction is protect the woman and when the man's being manipulated it's like well he just shouldn't be so stupid right so nobody

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)cares if it's a 40-year-old woman with a 18-year-old guy you're like well he just wants to bang it's fine but if it's a 40-year-old man with an 18-year-old girl suddenly the 18-year-old woman who we

TTS/Chat readerconsider a strong independent woman in every other sense is a helpless inated $200 there is a fine line between stereotypes and racism find a woman that can joke using

Brian Atlasstereotypes stay away from the woman that can't tell the difference I feel like this is a personal attack Ben Ben uh okay thank you Ben George

Brian Atlasappreciate it man uh you also said that um well you don't you've changed your position on it so there's really not much to discuss there really uh you said Optics and tone policing are

Nicoleimportant was this about Andrew Wilson or is this about me no no it was about Andrew Wilson okay yeah I I don't know he brings up tone placing sometimes when people say well I agree with you but I don't like the way you said it I think it's just because he doesn't meet people

Carlywhere they're at and I don't think he's oh that's a bunch of woman garbage we have to meet people where they're at do you want to achieve your goals or not do you want the vision that you see for the world or not yeah and the vision I see

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)for the world is not going to be met through convincing a bunch of emotional irrational women that what I that what is reality is non-negotiable

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)what about male passivity more woman garbage going to let me talk you don't have to say it like that though you can just say this is that isone being emotional like a woman that's tone

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)policing it's nonsense this whole I I agree with what you said but not how you said it that's [ __ ] and this is the problem with giving women power because now suddenly Everyone's an HR Manager everyone's a hall monitor I just don't

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)understand why you have to say woman in front of it because it's a woman problem men don't do this men don't constantly go actually I agree with you I just don't like think you watched what you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)think are are weaknesses with men in society today if you're if you truly are telling me that you have an objective view I would like you to share what you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)think are some weak areas of men in our society honestly what does that because I want to see if you can actually be objective or if you're just a mouthpiece for your husband oh you think I'm just a

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)mouthpiece wow I've never heard that one before guys that's brand new to me I'm just a brain guess I couldn't think with my woman brain I had do something well clearly I can't think with my woman brain but if you'll be quiet long enough

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)to let me talk I'll tell you I'll explain this to you all yours to um it's because men generally there's a male hierarchy right if you're a man

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)and you act like a little [ __ ] like that you get beat up you get stuffed in lockers you get a swirly women are the only people who run around going you know I I know that you're correct but I just don't like the delivery it made me

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)feel a certain way I'm in my feelings and I don't like the way that you said it wasn't the way you drove it was the tone right and then men who act that way are being feminine they're being beta feminine [ __ ] and they get put in

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)their place women have different tactics they use social isolation they use defense they they they have group tactics so it looks different than how men are agressive fale aggress when you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)are parsing out the truth you don't cater to women's stupid [ __ ] feelings about okay so I value femininity and femininity means you sit down and you be quiet when people are pursing out the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)truth and telling you what's what you don't sit there and go oh I don't like the way that you I'm here in my wisdom as an older woman to let all of you know that you're full of [ __ ] and you're why

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)AR why aren't you at home being quiet and fulfilling your when I'm at home I am she got a whole pass but you're here when I already said the patriarch but I would like you to answer my question and I will respectfully listen but I would like you to answer my question and the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)reason I ask it is because I want to see if you are able to view male and female strengths and weaknesses objectively because right this podcast and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)assume because it is this podcast you just want me to name a weakness of men I would like to see what where you think are areas of men men in society that are that are weak points sure I would say

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)that where men tend to go wrong is by being so desirous of women and putting them on a pedestal that they kind of go along and they uh you know fluff them up and go along with their nonsense because they want [ __ ] and I think that's

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)probably the biggest weakness that a lot of men can you is there any weakness that you can list that doesn't have anything to do with women women are not the best at anything you sound like a mass that's not true

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)women the best at raising kids you're the best at bettering on your own I know you're going to say single dad do better sing father have a better turn than single mother the woman prattles out of

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)control single fathers have a better turnout rate than single mothers okay respectfully I would like I would like to yeah so the problem right now is that we have an inverted social order the

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)social order is not meant to be that we must cater to women's feelings and that women have to be okay with how things are said and they have to approve and we have to convince them and we have to

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)pull them over to our the way it's supposed to be is that the order is men then women then children the men parse out the truth they write

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the laws they enforce the laws they run Society the women can have their opinions all day but it doesn't mean that anybody has to give a [ __ ] about them does that make sense so you can M passivity you didn't list that do you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)think men in our society struggle with being passive cuz I would argue that that's something that's a problem I think there's a higher I've explained this 10 there's a hierarchy among males okay the ones that end up at the top

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)running things do not pay any attention to the passive [ __ ] at the bottom and they get stuffed in lockers they don't generally get to reproduce so historically every one of us sitting

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)here has twice as many female ancestors as we have male ancestors the reason for that is that men have to compete to be worthy of reproduction as a woman all you have to do is drop eggs that's it someone's going to come along and

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)inseminate you you don't have to be special you don't have to do anything wonderful or unique you don't have to compete necessarily now you can compete for higher quality as a woman but to reproduce as a woman all you have to do

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)is be fertile as a man historically you have to compete for the women so the betas the cucks the feminine men they get used as Canon fodder ditch diggers they they it's tough being a man is like

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)really tough here's my problem with your approach as a woman of God I would assume that like you would put value in women and that's what I don't any of I put value in women as mothers as wives as caretakers I think they don't belong

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)in the workplace they don't belong in college with a few very minor exceptions and here's why we used to have communities we used to have women that like me would spend their early years

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)raising kids as they get older and their kids start to leave the nest they're helping the younger Generations raise their kids they're helping their sisters their nieces their daughters raised children they're working in the church Parish they're working in the community

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)they're taking care of the elderly we don't have that anymore because women are all in cubicles working for corporations and paying taxes getting sexually harassed by their bosses instead of their husbands at home where

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)they should be where it's fun where you want the you want the smack on the ass you know so I know that you don't like my tone and my message to all of you

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)women out there who don't like my tone is I don't [ __ ] care I don't care if you can't if you can't get past your own feelings to hear what I'm saying then

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)you're going to Doom yourself to a life it's your lack of christlikeness that's what I don't like she's a woman she can't be like Christ I don't like that so you think Christianity is being nice it's be it's

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)meaning the approval Christianity is being I think kindness is but it's not that you know what God is called the first when God describes himself in the old in Exodus the first adjective that

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)he uses in Exodus 34 he says I am a god of compassion and so I think compassion is very important and I think your feelings I think that you're in your feelings right now you don't like

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)the my delivery and I'm telling you that I don't care so every argument that I've just provided for you is is scripture and you're trying to say that that's feelings no you're

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)Nott you're giving me4 you are filtering the your perception of Exodus not Chris she's not a Christian but let's that did I just

Celeste X/Julia/Rachel Wilson (mixed)quote a 2119 okay did I just quote an act like obvious scripture you could look it up you could look up Exodus 34 and it will say I am a god of compassion

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