Rachel Wilson vs. Feminist Conservative Driena Sixto Debate | Whatever Debates 26
Date: 2026-03-29
Duration: 6h 07m
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Driena Sixto(guest)
SPEAKER_03Rachel Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
Key Moments
00:00:16
IntroBrian introduces debate: Rachel Wilson vs Driena Sixto
00:25:17
Key MomentRachel: if women didn't vote, there would never be another Democrat president
01:43:03
Key MomentRachel demolishes economic argument for low birth rates: poorest people have most children
02:25:30
QuoteDriena's closing: suggests Rachel take one-way trip to Iran if she doesn't like women's rights
05:38:09
QuoteRachel's closing: Driena came unarmed to a debate. If it was a beauty pageant she'd do great.
Topics Discussed
00:25:17
Women's Suffrage and 19th Amendment
Central debate. Rachel argues women shouldn't vote. Driena argues voting is inherent right.
00:45:23
Prenuptial Agreements
Extended debate between Rachel and Driena on prenups and financial independence in marriage.
01:02:10
Pornography: Ban or Free Speech?
Rachel advocates criminalizing porn. Driena opposes banning despite agreeing its harmful.
01:38:32
Birth Rate Collapse
Rachel argues women's access to education is #1 correlate to declining birth rates.
02:42:09
Force and Patriarchy
Rachel argues rights only exist because men with force grant them.
Transcript
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05:50:39
Brian Atlasthey're barred from certain uh federal jobs from uh receiving federal student loans. So even then >> with all that >> you >> disagree with all of that. Yeah. >> But it is the current status quo.
05:50:52
Driena Sixto>> Yeah. Maybe we should work towards removing that. That is more of a >> Well, maybe we should work towards >> How about women sign up for the draft? >> Well, what they >> again probably not going to happen. What they did do recently.
05:51:04
Rachel Wilson>> Why shouldn't we? But to make it fair, if you want equality, women ought to sign up for the draft just like men, right? Would that be equality? >> I want equality, which is why I want men to not have to sign up for the draft
05:51:18
Driena Sixtolike women. >> Okay, then if we get invaded by a foreign power who fights, uh, how about we finish these cuz >> Okay, that's what I thought. She's got nothing. >> Uh, no, I made my argument. >> You got nothing. >> I made my argument.
05:51:31
Rachel Wilson>> Hold on. I'm going to >> What you want is equality when and where it suits you. And then you want men to as long as one sex is expected to die for the other there cannot be equality. >> Yes.
05:51:44
Rachel Wilson>> Exactly. Exactly. >> Absolutely right. Correct. Most men are not dying for women. >> The expectation is that when it comes down to it, the men are the women and children get the lifeboats and the men
05:51:56
Rachel Wilsonare supposed to sacrifice their lives for the women and the children. And as long as that's the expectation, there's no such thing as equality. And that's never going to change. >> And in reality, uh, that doesn't happen, does again, very special
05:52:09
Brian Atlas>> a little bit. I can kind of see it. >> Tom Green. >> I can see it a little bit. >> When he was younger, you know, >> the Yeah. >> The comedian. >> Yeah. Yeah. The >> Salad Fingers. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to remember his
05:52:20
Brian Atlasbig thing or whatever. Um, Christopher Scott, you said, "Not allowing women to vote is illogical. What law of logic does not allowing women to vote?" >> Great question. Violate logic. >> Do you want to respond to that? >> You love logic. You should know the
05:52:32
Driena Sixtothree laws of logic, right? >> I've already um I've already answered that question multiple times. I'm trying to get off this podcast. >> Well, I mean, be a good sport, but people sent in some super chats.
05:52:44
Rachel Wilson>> There's no such thing as a law of logic. How's that? >> Are you serious? >> The law of logic. That's a good one. >> Oh my gosh. Okay. So, you don't know that there's >> Wait, do you want to do a bet? $1,000 bet.
05:52:57
Rachel Wilson>> A law of logic. the >> you just sat here on this podcast and the last podcast talking about how you're logical and you have the logic positions and you love logic and then you said there's no such thing as the laws of logic. >> What are they?
05:53:09
Driena Sixto>> There's a single definition of the law of logic. Is that where you're arguing? >> No, there's three laws of logic. >> Okay. >> That govern how logic works. >> Single law of logic. He said which of
05:53:20
Rachel Wilsonthe laws of log which law of logic does not allow women would it be the I'm not even gonna >> the law of identity.
05:53:32
Rachel Wilson>> What law of logic? He's asking which >> the law of non-contradiction. These are laws that govern what is logical. Otherwise, how would you know what's logical? >> What's logical is that men and women
05:53:42
Brian Atlashold equal inherent value. Therefore, they should have equal legal representative. She's a politician >> value and an equal. >> She's a politician. She doesn't give a straight. She won't give you a straight answer. You can ask. >> That is a straight answer.
05:53:55
Brian Atlas>> That's not the answer that you want to hear. Do you have two master's degrees? >> Two bachelor's degrees. >> Two bachelor's degrees. Long time ago. >> All right. We have uh Jim Bob. We tried Chris defer Scott. Uh Blondie is not
05:54:08
Brian Atlasconservative. She still has not been able to give the actual definition and attributes of a conservative. She also will never get married. If she was wifey material, her current man would have put
05:54:20
Brian Atlasa ring on it as we know after a few days. In her defense, she has been married before. >> I have. >> She has. So, she did she did get married. >> Mhm. So,
05:54:32
Brian Atlas>> she's no longer married. Yep. >> But she did get married. >> Correct. >> She got you there, Jim Bob. She's got you there, Jim Bob. >> Uh, okay. Let's see. We have some. Let
05:54:43
Brian Atlasme just check. Yeah, we do have a few more coming in. We have airborne. Where is it? Hold on one moment. Airborne animal. Oh, did I wait?
05:54:53
Brian AtlasAirborne animal. Leftist women. I'm not going to like this butterfly purposely m misrepresent the whatever. Good. Good use misrepresent the whatever podcast
05:55:05
Brian Atlasprecisely because it holds a mirror up and reflects their actual toxicity. Dishonesty and ignorance not one step back. Thank you. Airborne animal.
05:55:17
Driena Sixto>> Is that thing like a Gen Z thing? I've never heard of that. >> It's a crucible thing. >> Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. So people that are your husband's fans, >> you know, you could you could like put
05:55:29
Driena Sixtothe phone down and just, you know, be a little show a little show a little love to the the chatters. >> I am uh reaching out to the people that are uh reach you guys read your comments
05:55:40
Brian Atlaslive. I was going through mine telling me congratulations on this debate. >> All right, woman. Come fix my toilet and fix the sewer and say we are equal and
05:55:49
Driena Sixtoyes, this is 450. He's He's keeping a spreadsheet of >> Oh, perfect for >> of all the Yeah, it's the same guy. >> Yeah.
05:55:59
Driena Sixto>> Hey, that that uh that title he decides to go under doofus actually, you know, kind of appropriate. 450 so far on a show just
05:56:10
Brian Atlas>> just to just to leave comments. >> That's hilarious. >> All right. Well, I think that's what was pretty much >> a troll.
05:56:19
Brian Atlas>> They're below the threshold. I didn't I didn't even read them. Oh Wait.
05:56:27
Driena Sixto>> Okay. Uh I think that's it. >> All right. >> Yeah. I just Those are the last. >> Fantastic. Do you promise me Andrew then for the next one like he said on the show? >> Uh
05:56:40
Brian Atlas>> last time I was there. >> Let me turn in tune in to Andrew's stream here. >> Andrew just I can't hear the audio. Thumbs up. Thumbs down. Andrew. Uh, do you want to Andrew now that you sent your way? >> You want to debate Andrew? Do you thumbs
05:56:53
Brian Atlasup Andrew if you want to do a debate with uh Drano? >> Sorry. I'm sorry. >> Dre, >> Brian Sienna. >> Drianna.
05:57:05
Brian Atlas>> Andrew. Andrew wear. Do the Troy. Do the Troy. You know the walking Phoenix. The >> be a man. Andrew. >> He says thumbs up. thumbs up. He double thumbs up. He wants two debates with
05:57:19
Brian Atlasyou. >> Fantastic. >> Oh >> You look so handsome. >> Oh There was one actually one thing I wanted to ask. Uh
05:57:27
Brian Atlasyou had been interfacing with somebody online. Um and uh Trump recently tweeted that he was glad this guy who was
05:57:39
Brian Atlasprosecuting him prosecuting him died. Now I personally um I actually disagreed with >> Uhhuh. Isn't that I disagreed with Trump on this? Look, I understand this guy had
05:57:50
Brian Atlasit out for Trump and was probably like trying to ruin Trump's life essentially. Um, and I think it's okay to strongly dislike or even hate somebody who's trying to ruin your life. But I do think
05:58:02
Brian Atlas>> like um and perhaps even privately you can have a degree of okay, well, this guy's dead. I'm not going to shed a tear. But I do think it's it is in bad
05:58:12
Brian Atlastaste to say that you're glad somebody's died, even if it's an enemy. Um, and you seem to be totally fine with that. >> Why? Because of the Trump's
05:58:24
Brian Atlas>> You were fine with Trump's comment. You're like, "Yes, I'm glad." >> Where? Where have I said that? I'm okay with >> somebody sent me a message perhaps. If I'm incorrect, feel free to correct me,
05:58:34
Driena Sixtobut is that your position? Uh, I don't agree with a lot of uh a lot of the tone. Again, I'm big on tone. Um, >> oh, surprise.
05:58:45
Driena Sixto>> No, it's not surprise. It's consistency, Rachel. Uh, and not hypocrisy. Um, I would definitely see how some people
05:58:54
Driena Sixtowould disagree with, you know, Trump's comments. I neither endorse nor uh condemn. I think that the reason why
05:59:05
Driena SixtoTrump got elected into office is because he says things as he feels them and it's the most honest of a president that we've ever had because he has no filter
05:59:16
Driena Sixtoand I prefer a president without a filter over anything else. So that's my comment on it. >> That didn't even answer the the question, but >> he's a professional obviously. >> She's okay.
05:59:27
Brian Atlas>> Just because I'm a lot more diplomatic and can control my emotions, Rachel, does not mean I'm a professional. It had nothing to do with controlling emotions. It's just like you don't answer a question in a straightforward manner. >> You don't even answer the question.
05:59:40
Driena SixtoOften times, >> uh, I answered your question. I again just didn't answer what you wanted. >> You meandered around the question. I guess that is one. >> I know it's triggering to not get exactly what you want.
05:59:51
Rachel Wilson>> She accuses me of not controlling my emotions, but she's so passive aggressive, which is typical like snarky woman behavior. Like if I'm just having fun and I'm talking like this and I get a little animated, it's like, "Oh my
06:00:04
Rachel Wilsongod, look at her. She's so out of control." But then she'll do the passive aggressive snark and the smug and the arrogant. Like that doesn't come off horrible. Like everybody watching isn't going to notice that.
06:00:16
Driena Sixto>> Uh yeah. I think >> stupid. You think people are dumb and they can't see right through you? >> Uh I think most people watching this will have the right opinion of me and of you afterwards. >> Oh, I think they will too. We agree on
06:00:28
Brian Atlasthat. Okay, we have doofus the title dorfus it talking to you woman and yes 550 he must be liquored up a little bit
06:00:40
Brian Atlas>> he must be doing shots >> he's he's uh Dorfus uh you need to change your name on Streamlabs to Dorfus from now on doofus
06:00:51
Brian Atlas>> uh you got to change it to Dorfus um that's like Dorothy and or Never come by. Uh, I don't understand why feminists and femons refuse to watch
06:01:02
Brian AtlasAndrew or Rachel debate before these debates. How do you come in not knowing the basic positions? Is it just
06:01:08
Driena Sixtolaziness? Says Cha XD. >> Uh, it's very easy. I have all of her uh talking points written down and they're
06:01:19
Driena Sixtoall the same. I didn't have to sit and actually watch them though. What you can do is download the transcripts on YouTube and then extract all these different arguments, which is what I did because I'm efficient on time and don't
06:01:32
Brian Atlaswant to waste it hearing incorrect. >> I can see that not preparing properly did you a lot of favors. >> Uh yeah, it definitely >> Should we do a roast session? >> A roast session? >> I'll leave it up to both of you.
06:01:44
Driena Sixto>> If you guys are down for a little roast, we lower the TTS a little bit. >> No, we can come back though. You can invite me back for a roast a little bit >> session for sure. Is she doing dating talk tomorrow? >> I don't think so.
06:01:55
Brian Atlas>> No, she's Miami. >> We have other good people on the on the panel though, so that'll be good. Okay, we're going to wrap it there. Um, we we did go
06:02:08
Brian Atlashave a long debate. Well, I do want to even though uh it got heated in moments and uh >> I got I ced caught cotched >> caught >> caught some strays. I got some strays
06:02:19
Brian Atlasfor I guess uh I do want to thank both of you for participating in this debate. Rachel, it's been almost two years since we've last had you on. So, it's great to have you back. >> Did I bring you back here, Rachel? >> She was
06:02:32
Brian Atlas>> got to thank me for that. >> She was planned. >> It was planned. >> Uh we've been we've been wanting to have Rachel back uh regardless. So, >> I don't think I need any help getting on large podcasts, but thanks.
06:02:44
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, she's just on Joe Rogan. She was on Joe Rogan. Congratulations. >> She She did uh you did um Steven Crowder, too. >> I'd like to see you on Fox News telling the female host that she is a FEMCON.
06:02:57
Rachel Wilson>> I would be totally down for that if she's a fem, but I've already been on Fox News. I was on Tucker Carlson, too. So, she was on Tucker Carlson. >> Fantastic. That's me doing all of this
06:03:07
Rachel Wilsonwhile also submitting to my husband and to my church and, you know, raising a bunch of kids. Killing it out here. Yeah. 20. It's I think there's a what
06:03:17
Rachel Wilsontwo decade two decade almost two decade difference. No, like a one decade. >> 13 years older than you guys. >> Decade and a half. >> Yeah, you can catch up. You still got plenty of time. >> Plenty. I know. And I'll be voting and
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Rachel Wilsonnot that much. But >> and I'll be voting the entire way and telling women to vote. Uh while you tell Oh my god. >> No, I don't. Oh, wait, wait, wait. I don't tell women not to vote right now.
06:03:42
Rachel WilsonI tell all you married women, double your husband's vote. Okay? Go vote. Just d whatever your husband's voting, you say, "Honey, what should I do?" And whatever he says, do that and you go out
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Rachel Wilsonand vote. And then when they resend the 19th and they restrict voting, if if all the feminists can't vote anymore, then you can just stay home. >> You're gonna >> Oh, yeah. Just like Roie Wade was never going to get overturned. Just like the
06:04:06
Brian Atlasdraft is, you know, we're just going to never have a draft anymore. Don't hold your breath while you wait. >> All right. Well, that there it is, folks. That is the uh the debate. Thank
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Brian Atlasyou. Uh thank you guys for joining us. We Let me get that super chat. Uh but thank you guys for joining us. Guys, if you enjoyed the stream, kindly like the video. Also, we are going to be live
06:04:29
Brian Atlastomorrow 5:00 p.m. Pacific with a dating talk. Rachel will be our special guest for that also. So, uh, we have a good panel scheduled for that. Dofus has to have the final word here as always. You
06:04:43
Brian Atlasdidn't change your name. It should be Dorfus. Uh, but thank you for that. Appreciate the support tonight. Dorfus. Uh, Ken's >> P90 with the big $200 soup chat. Thank
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Brian Atlasyou, Ken. A feminist will not admit to be a feminist since today. It has to be a bad cognit. Wait, cognitation. That's a new one. conotation is what he means.
06:05:07
Rachel WilsonYeah. Isn't that Isn't that a point in my favor that I am convincing because nobody wants to be called a feminist anymore? Even like girls like you'll be like I'm not a feminist. Well, what's wrong with being a feminist?
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Rachel Wilson>> Women that are feminists do want to be called a feminist. Women that are not feminist. >> Only the ones that want to be wolves and sheep's clothing and go, "Trust me guys,
06:05:28
Brian AtlasI'm super conservative and totally not a feminist." Yeah. Uh, four years ago she would be a proud feminist, >> says Ken's P90.
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Brian Atlas>> It's not cool anymore. We're winning because it's not cool anymore. Nobody likes it. >> Well, thank you for the uh super chat there at the end, Ken. Really very much appreciate it.
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Brian Atlas>> And uh yeah, thank you, Ken. Uh let's see. Thank you guys for tuning in, guys. Like the video. There's going to be a redirect. Uh uh like the video, guys.
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Brian AtlasLeave a comment. It helps with the algorithm after the stream ends. 5:00 p p.m. Pacific tomorrow. Be sure to tune in, guys. Uh, thank you for everyone who supported the show tonight. Thank you
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Brian Atlasguys for the super chats. Uh, we couldn't do it without you guys. And, you know, we're not we're not getting an Athletic Greens sponsorship anytime soon. So, uh, we are viewer supported,
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Brian Atlasfan supported. So, thank you guys so much. And uh also shout out to Andrew who was uh sort of co-streaming who was uh doing a watch party. Shout out to
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Brian AtlasAndrew. Uh hopefully we'll have him back uh you know soon. >> Uh always a pleasure to have the Wilsons on. So thank you. And the the viewers by
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Brian Atlaspopular demand, they want to see uh they want to see you versus Andrew Wilson. So it seems like she's game. He's game. So we'll do it. We will do it. Okay, guys. Uh, let me
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Brian Atlasjust double check. Make sure I'm not uh missing any chats, but no, I think it we all look good. Okay, let's see. 07's in the chat, guys. 07's in the chat. I hope you guys have a good night and we'll see you tomorrow. Good night, guys.