06:30:51Panel (mixed)yeah I don't know I'm at a woman's only gym and it's pretty full always I like to work out too girl
06:31:06Panel (mixed)just attention you think that's it I think women probably want to scout out their options perhaps so they they go man hunting at the gym I mean woman
06:31:17Panel (mixed)wants a man who works out right best place to find them is that the gym maybe they work out with a male oh yeah get yourself a good Gym Bro yeah
06:31:28Panel (mixed)maybe they encourage them more I've seen a lot of um times when men will go up to the women and encourage them when they're lifting and help them
06:31:37Panel (mixed)out SP SE so many videos of um women setting up a camera and then um you know they're working out and then they try to like make a video of like this man approaching them they're like I wish I
06:31:50Panel (mixed)could just be left alone at the gym and it's like girl you asked for it you're wearing short shorts with a little scrunchie up the butt like you got the sports bra on like come on like what are you doing that's not even what's happening in the videos the women will
06:32:03Brian Atlasbe dressed in the way that you're describing and a guy will glance vaguely in their Direction and then they'll like totally blow it out of proportion and say that the guy was creeping on them
06:32:14Brian Atlasright I mean that's what's really happening I feel so sorry for man it's hard to be a man today what I mean even removing like this sort of gender component to it I don't think people
06:32:24Andrew Wilsonshould be filming in gyms period right so do you think that all female gyms would do better or all male gyms would do better all male oh man I don't think
06:32:36Panel (mixed)enough women work out that's probably part of the problem as well thanks
06:32:45Panel (mixed)so I think more men than women partake in gym activities and and prioritize their Fitness you know I'm not I'm not sure if that's actually true they could
06:32:56Brian Atlasjust be prioritizing it in different ways that don't include a gym all right TTS has been lowered to 30 if you want get them in we'll do a row section I have to pause it temporarily cuz I just want to uh scan a couple of them and uh
06:33:08Brian Atlaswe'll let it come through we'll do a short brief R section then we'll wrap up the show if you want get them in I do want to go around the table on one question to maybe get things a little
06:33:17Brian Atlasmore lively who knows who knows we'll see um this is dating related so would you object to a man not wanting
06:33:28Brian Atlasto date a transgender woman starting with you I mean it's all about preference if they don't want to date a transgender woman they don't have to but do you think it
06:33:39Brian Atlaswould be like hinting towards being transphobic or um not unless they're just like outright transphobic let's assume they're not but the reason they don't want to date this
06:33:51Panel (mixed)person is because they're trans I mean everyone everyone has a preference so I don't I don't think that's oh oh um
06:34:04Panel (mixed)yeah everyone has a preference so okay yeah can you say the question I missed it let's just that's fine you can skip me no
06:34:14Brian Atlasthat'd be gay no no no wait sorry say that one more time I said no that'd be gay can't I can't say that sorry no it's
06:34:24Brian Atlasnot it's you're fine oh um no so you brought up something interesting there you said it would it
06:34:33Brian Atlaswould be gay for a a man to date a transgender woman mhm uh I guess going back around the table uh do you object to that categorization that it it would
06:34:43Brian Atlasbe it it would be gay it would not be straight for a man to date a transgender
06:34:58Unknownum I don't answer H can I not answer
06:35:06Brian Atlasuh I mean it's we're not going to judge your you you can have your position I don't think we're going to be upset if you with your position I think if they transition to a
06:35:17Panel (mixed)woman it would be considered a straight relationship okay what about you I think it'd be considered straight considered straight yeah yeah I think if she was fully transitioned it would be
06:35:27Panel (mixed)considered straight fully transitioned okay it's straight straight I really don't care it's not my business so but I do think that
06:35:38Panel (mixed)if I can see the sides of people where there're like if a man were to transition into a woman that it would still be considered gay because going back to what Andre head said of your sex it's your underlying sex from the
06:35:51Panel (mixed)beginning but I just stay out of that it's not my business do what you want yeah it would be gay yeah I think so too you can never like 100% change your
06:36:01Panel (mixed)gender yeah I agree with her I have a story on this topic so um my early 20s I was dating a guy who was having um a bit
06:36:13Panel (mixed)of a problem with identifying his sexuality I suppose so he um I found messages in his phone where he was telling his friend that he was dating me and I'm very nice but ultimately he
06:36:25Panel (mixed)thought that he would um end up with a man so gay uh but in the closet still and I remember when we broke up I was
06:36:35Panel (mixed)venting to a friend of a friend who was transgender um and so this was male to female and they were like oh I'm the
06:36:47Panel (mixed)perfect person for him because he isn't quite ready to come out of the closet and I present as female and so like he he should just message me and first of
06:36:57Panel (mixed)all like if you're going to go male to female you need to understand girl code in that and totally broke Girl Code you just don't do that to a
06:37:08Panel (mixed)girl right like I'm like venting about this person who I just broke up with so um anyways with that context and that fun story I would um say that I believe
06:37:18Panel (mixed)if a male is dating somebody who transitioned male to female I would I would say that's still a gay
06:37:30Panel (mixed)relationship did they end up together yeah up together he oh gosh no they those two did not end up together oh unfortunately would have
06:37:42Panel (mixed)been perfect so you were dating a gay guy in college what you're saying I had no clue at the time but that's crazy I I landed
06:37:53Panel (mixed)myself at a guy who was in the closet and he used me as his little trophy to convince the world that he was straight yeah a was it harder hard pretty easy for you
06:38:04Panel (mixed)to move on when you kind of found that out or oh gosh so I was 21 um man it did Wonders on my self-esteem because as a 21-year-old you're not mature enough to
06:38:17Panel (mixed)realize that it's nothing about you right so I was like am I the reason why he doesn't want women you thought he turned gay yeah like that was my first
06:38:27Panel (mixed)thought um so it was really hard for me to deal with back then um but I look back and I'm like that has nothing to do with me at all are you sure that's not
06:38:38Brian Atlascope I'm sure well maybe I can try to walk through the logic here a little bit on this whole thing so um I'll keep it
06:38:48Brian Atlaspretty simple and short um so uh is straight short form slaying for
06:39:01Brian Atlaswhat oh you mean like what is it shorten for like like a nickname like Catal sexual okay so does homosexual mean same
06:39:10Brian Atlassex yes yes okay homo means same hetero hetero means it would be heterosexual right but does homosexual mean same sex yes and straight is short form slaying
06:39:21Brian Atlasfor heterosexual yes okay so when we say homosexual we mean we mean samesex relationship yeah okay and you would agree that um these people have not
06:39:34Brian Atlaschanged their sex like transgender people don't change their sex I disagree I I think they can change their sex I mean well that's just a fund
06:39:47Panel (mixed)fundamental misunderstanding of uh can't change sex you can change your gender right I'll just grant that you can change your gender mhm I guess
06:39:58Andrew Wilsonwell I'm curious um I I actually would like to hear um you think if you think that that people can change your sex
06:40:06Panel (mixed)what what do you mean by that like you can if you're transitioning from female to male you can you know get
06:40:18Panel (mixed)your you can get your you know organs removed and you can get built you know a penis so I feel like in a way you can kind of change your
06:40:29Andrew Wilsonsex if you reproduce well let let me just make sure that if I test this real quick that that this is
06:40:37Andrew Wilsontrue let us assume for a second a man fell into a vat of acid and it burned off his um you know his junk and it
06:40:48Panel (mixed)burned all of that completely off mhm is he still a man yeah yes and aren't there graphs that can be done I'm not talking about like grafting a hole let's just say that
06:41:01Andrew Wilsonthey never are done though on there but like yeah but let's just assume that they never are is he still a man yes well then I don't understand then if he is still a man how reconstructing
06:41:12Panel (mixed)anything in that region would not make him a man anymore that that I don't understand yeah about transgender people take like hormones like the opposite hormones that they don't have so it does more than just getting they body parts
06:41:25Andrew Wilsonwomen have women have estrogen and women have testosterone and men have estrogen and they have testosterone so what they do is they just quantif the hormone this but this is just all that this does is
06:41:36Andrew Wilsonchange external appearances doesn't actually change your sex right if I might jump in here so so we can assume for a second for instance that men who have different various
06:41:47Andrew Wilsonmedical conditions can up the estrogen in their body and they can grow um boobs literally and if they can do that you still would not say that they were not men
06:41:58Panel (mixed)right right yeah I agree with that but I think that you should still be like kind to the people who want to transition and call them what they want to be called
06:42:09Andrew Wilsonsure and I'm not even going to dispute that you believe that all I'm asking is that if they're still the same sex or not yeah they are
06:42:20Panel (mixed)yeah but I think it's a mental dis maybe not disorder but like that you were mentally feel like you were born in the wrong body so it still like helps
06:42:30Panel (mixed)mentally if you yeah just call them by their preferred gender pronouns but do you think that there's something mentally going on if they
06:42:40Panel (mixed)believe that they were born in the wrong body you mean like from a trauma or like like you you mentioned mental so if somebody believes that they are a different gender than what they were
06:42:52Panel (mixed)born as do you think that perhaps something is mentally off I think it's like a disorder mhm yeah so if if we're claiming that to be a disorder what
06:43:05Panel (mixed)happens if there's you know the classic argument of an anorexic person could has a mental disorder and they believe that they need to go get liposuction should
06:43:14Panel (mixed)we affirm that person and allow them to go get that surgery but there I think like there are the anorexic people they
06:43:25Panel (mixed)have a chance to heal or like get not anorexic anymore but well if they go it's not like I think like every 10th person dies from it I think I've read a
06:43:36Panel (mixed)study but there are plenty people who have been underweight and went through therapy and it's a lot of time upward but they have healed from it but their
06:43:45Panel (mixed)therapy is not affirming the disorder no right but um because it's something you can heal from but trans to be trans you can't heal from it so like I don't think
06:43:57Panel (mixed)there's like worse trying it you can't change your belief of what you if it's like a disorder disorder I don't think so because I think anorexic is more like
06:44:09Panel (mixed)you being sick and I feel like a mental disorder is something else to me yeah mental disorder is like depression I mean like anorexia can definitely start
06:44:19Brian Atlasmentally but I don't I think is an anorexia mental disorder yeah so I mean just going back to your thing about the hormones and
06:44:29Brian Atlasstuff uh you said that they're on like hormones uhhuh hormone replacement yeah so I mean but do you think the differential between men and women uh comes down to solely the
06:44:41Panel (mixed)endocrine system that's a hard question uh I can someone else answer that well that the endocrine system like
06:44:54Brian Atlasregulates hormones and stuff so I'm just trying to understand okay you said well they're on hormones but it's not clear to me if the endocrine system is the sole differential between men and women
06:45:04Panel (mixed)no and like again I don't think they can ever change their gender completely or sex or whatever you want to call it um I just think that it's a good indicator
06:45:15Panel (mixed)that if you take hormones and do the um operations and stuff that you are legit trans because there are some people who just like grow their her maybe and don't
06:45:26Panel (mixed)really make an effort to appear trans and I don't think those people should be qualified as trans well I guess going back to what I was
06:45:37Brian Atlastrying to say um when it comes to this I think I was asking if you guys would agree that uh transgender people have not changed their sex I think it was
06:45:46Brian Atlasonly you who had some disagreements there um you're on the fence too um but uh I suppose you could argue that they change their gender but I don't think you could ever argue that they changed
06:45:58Brian Atlastheir sex uh so I mean if that's the case then wouldn't they be in a homosexual relationship if it's a male and a male who are dating regardless of their gender
06:46:13Panel (mixed)expression I mean oh sorry you guys said it was straight I'm providing counter you're
06:46:22Panel (mixed)you're saying AR didn't wait okay say that again I guess I think that if um technically speaking yeah you'd be
06:46:30Panel (mixed)correct like they it would be termed a gay relationship but I think um Society has changed the meaning a lot and that goes for many things societies Chang the
06:46:43Brian Atlasmeaning of sex societ societies Chang the meaning of like but I mean sexual preference has always been intended as referring to what sex you
06:46:55Panel (mixed)prefer yeah but I think from what I've seen Society ties it up more with gender than sex now even though technically speaking it has to do
06:47:06Andrew Wilsonwith sex sexual in order to create a baby does it require a male and a
06:47:17Andrew Wilsonfemale in order to create a baby does it require a male and a female yes yes okay so I assume that you believe that two transgender people can have babies
06:47:28Andrew Wilsonright and that they would still be male and female right so wouldn't the man in a transgender relationship what is considered the man
06:47:38Andrew Wilsonbe the carrier then of the baby I have seen that before yes yeah so if you've seen that before then what we've established here is that their sex hasn't actually Chang because only women
06:47:50Panel (mixed)can produce babies thank you Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve yeah no and that was kind of my opinion that's more why I was on the fence all
06:48:01Andrew Wilsonright yeah yeah we got move off of that but what were you saying I'm sorry oh me yeah oh sorry I thought you said we were moving off of that I was like okay my bad I was talking to the G in pink I'm sorry I came late so I
06:48:13Panel (mixed)didn't catch all your names it's so you know go ahead um but the best uh I don't know um a way I heard it
06:48:23Panel (mixed)explained once was it was this transwoman talking about how um
06:48:33Panel (mixed)it the the issue or what she was addressing was how trans women want to be addressed as women and like cut the
06:48:43Panel (mixed)trans portion out or whatever um and that was her whole portion is you're not a woman though you're not a natural woman like as much as you want to be you
06:48:54Panel (mixed)just aren't you're not going to be and you are imitating women like your mother like your auntie like your sisters that you see that you want to be exactly like and I don't think there's anything wrong
06:49:08Panel (mixed)with that I think that's totally fine to each their own but that was just her point was you're not a woman you're a trans woman you don't have all the parts you
06:49:19Panel (mixed)can't do everything how do you feel about the videos of trans male to female who make videos pretending to have period cramps oh okay because I actually came
06:49:32Panel (mixed)across one thing on my Tik Tok the other day where there was like this trans woman who was male to female talking about how she had uh uh camping no no
06:49:44Andrew Wilsonlike a miscarriage and I was just like what how delusional do you have to be Andrew do you have more on this do you have more on this or yeah well I mean I I fig see
06:49:57Andrew Wilsonwe'll we'll wrap it uh we'll wrap it pretty quick but I I guess my My ultimate question is that if the sex can't change if if if in other words it requires a woman to have a baby or only
06:50:07Andrew Wilsona trans man can have a baby then we have not actually created a distinct category here we're still in the same category right this is the same we haven't we
06:50:19Andrew Wilsonhave not taken a separate ontological approach here this is still this is still in the same exact C if only one sex can have a baby and whatever configuration that you make around that
06:50:31Andrew Wilsonsex is still the only sex I can have the baby then whatever you're making around it is is in some type of distinct uh non-category wouldn't it be so then are we going to put women who are completely
06:50:43Andrew Wilsoninfertile in that same category because they can't have a baby what about men who are completely INF but only women have the capacity to have babies and men have zero capacity to have babies right that's where we come
06:50:56Andrew Wilsonup with the category not because all women can but because only women can that's how we can make the
06:51:03Andrew Wilsondistinction between womb man W man and man right so all women can't have babies we agree but only women can have babies
06:51:14Panel (mixed)do we agree with that too so then therefore trans only trans men can have babies right well no I think we all just came
06:51:23Andrew Wilsonto the consensus that we disagree with that trans men can't well wouldn't a trans yeah trans man right trans uh okay no trans women couldn't
06:51:35Andrew Wilsonhave babies could they uh yeah women to male yes yeah so only trans men can have babies but we've we established that the only biological sex that can have babies are women right women that's it so then
06:51:47Panel (mixed)we've created no new category we're still just talking about women well a woman and then a woman with a busted
06:51:57Panel (mixed)hormone situation but yes I would imagine that that that baby being carried by a trans person would all right I'm going to let some chats come through sorry I had to hold them
06:52:08Nick (producer)for a sec guys I think it's like physically possible like what uh what the sorry I got to skip that what the John's
06:52:19Nick (producer)uncore myth donated $30 it's definitely gay Maximus Decimus Meridius okay are you not entertained
06:52:32Nick (producer)all right thank you man 200 donated $30 women smell like in the gym and if she lies about her cisgender it's hiding thing things and a piece of
06:52:42Nick (producer)move men know the differ you have to be 100% open ulyses the Pagan donated $30 should a transgender person reveal that to
06:52:54Nick (producer)someone they're dating if they pass in my opinion it's a lack of informed consent no consent is essay in guise of self- protection
06:53:04Nick (producer)I yeah I would say yeah you should 100% disclose it yeah mhm all right going to let some more come through LOL paladins donated
06:53:14Panel (mixed)$30 can we get some more examples of girl code what your best friend's ex number one number one you don't link up with your
06:53:27Nick (producer)girl's exboyfriend that's that's the David to donated $31 steam labia matters has been a pain
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06:53:44Nick (producer)folks or is this sensitive time epirus 29 donated $200k you man appr everything falls front of the girls
06:53:55Nick (producer)standpoint End of Line they are the same sex there is a mental health issue beyond that a mental disorder should shouldn't be used to deceit a hormone
06:54:04Brian Atlascoroller all right epis thank you for the TTS David uh do Bronco do Bronco David appreciate it
06:54:14Nick (producer)man by the way we some of you are asking questions we can only do one one questions ran and Andrew say one positive thing you have been educated on
06:54:25Nick (producer)by a woman in your life Define what being a high value man is contingent on are men entitled to a high Baseline of opportunity that's three questions we
06:54:35Brian Atlascan only do we'll only do one um good one positive thing you have been educated on by a woman in your life to find what being a high value man is contingent on Andrew you go first go
06:54:47Andrew Wilsonahead you pick just one of those um my mom taught me that um not all disco music
06:54:56Nick (producer)sucks I have the same exact answer as you Andrew appreciate it that's good uh thank you walking roscore onore YouTube donated
06:55:09Nick (producer)$77.70 statistically speaking three of you ladies will be scorned and alone when that occurs will you be affirmed a crazy cat lady or psycho tiny Pur do
06:55:20Nick (producer)broad PS name the three branches of US Government legislative judicial executive J legislative judicial executive boom
06:55:35Brian Atlasoh uh good show tonight boys going to s a little bit always a pleasure to encounter women like Miss Nevada in the world need more like her in this country super based get your ass to the gym bran
06:55:45Sophia (UCSB)working on it boys working on it oh my gosh random for donated back to the public approach when a man is with his child fulltime dad
06:55:56Sophia (UCSB)what if it's the grocery store and he just finds you beautiful Ste key no could be a rare opportunity for
06:56:05Panel (mixed)him I don't think it's icky no no I don't think it's icky I mean no think if you're just coming up to someone and being like Oh hey can I get your phone number I think you're really
06:56:17Panel (mixed)attractive and then you just walk off and continue about your day yeah I mean if you sit there and talk to them for for however long with your child I I think so I think it should just be a
06:56:27SPEAKER_07very brief interaction if your child has to be present I early on when there's a child involved miore hoodie donated $30 Brian please explain to the panel how to
06:56:39Brian Atlasproperly jump start a vehicle step by step with each cable yeah right well see what I just do is uh first off I have a
06:56:50Brian Atlasone of those pre-charged thingies in the car that you just there's there's the red and the and the black the black oh God you put it on the corresponding
06:57:01Brian Atlasthingies which one's the correspond where the thingies what are the thingies you know the the positive and the negative put one on that one there's
06:57:12Brian Atlasinstructions on the jump there thingy I can figure it out though I got this easy boys do I've done it I've Nick saw me jump start a car I jump started uh what
06:57:22Andrew Wilsonwhat voltage is your battery bro I don't know that what the you don't know what what voltage your battery is no
06:57:32Brian Atlasreally no feel like this is a trick question no it's not a trick question no I don't know what the Vol I don't know what the voltage is what are you trying to do Andrew what you what you what are you trying to do bro well I
06:57:45Andrew Wilsonmean it says it's like usually in big bold letters right on the battery you never you never caught how many volts it was I've not committed it to my memory what the what the voltage is all right
06:57:57Brian Atlaswhat's your what's the voltage on H your car Andrew on all cars you mean 12
06:58:05Andrew Wilsonvolts what is it 12 12 volts 12 volts mhm okay all vehicles at least that I'm aware of yeah 12 volts on cars yeah yeah it's good
06:58:18Andrew Wilsonit's good yeah and so if you want to jump if you want to jump the car you uh you would take off your battery covers and you would put your black and your negative first and then You' put the negative on the other side and then you donated $30 for those who are feminists
06:58:30SPEAKER_07but believe in trans how do you reconcile fighting for women's rights but allow men to be women and can't say what a woman
06:58:40SPEAKER_14is word di letter 0430 donated $30 given that spanking is considered child abuse that women are far more likely to engage in this abuse against children than men
06:58:52SPEAKER_14would the proar panelists like to reconsider their bias against men Max donated $30 if the patriarchy doesn't exist statistically by definition why is
06:59:03Brian AtlasCongress is that that's it why is Congress considera there there's more men what is Congress uh there's more so
06:59:13Brian Atlasbasically this is just the uh this is just the argument that uh you know men occupy a very small percentage of men occupy these sort of powerful positions
06:59:23Brian AtlasC SE Suite executive CEOs Etc but I mean I'll just explain it the way in the way I like to uh I mean there's a bunch of
06:59:32Brian Atlasreasons but um if 50% of women are inclined to uh date men who have or value deeply to relate it back to dating
06:59:43Brian Atlasif women want men to pay for dates if they want them to be providers this creates enough of a a mating pressure to make men want to achieve more than
06:59:54Brian Atlaswomen so I'll just blame women it's women's fault because you desire men to be providers because you desire men to pay for dates because you're attracted to high status men because you're
07:00:06Brian Atlasattracted to powerful men men will pursue these things in an effort to get the uh most women the highest quality women in order to secure a mate there's other reasons
07:00:17Panel (mixed)why men want power but that's a very strong motivating factor so um it's women's fault say that's fair but i' would also argue that men are actually better in those
07:00:29Brian Atlaspositions of power well I'm not making that argument I'm just saying that uh I'm adding to yours if if there's if there's enough like there's this this also is related to the wage Gap stuff
07:00:41Brian Atlaswhy is it that men and which is actually debunked but if I just grant that there is a wage Gap why is it that men earn more than uh money than women well if 50
07:00:50Brian Atlas60% of women want men to be providers and will only won't date a broke man No Scrubs TLC No Scrubs uh bills bills bills what have you done from blah blah
07:01:01Brian Atlasall this stuff if there's enough of a mating pressure from coming from women directed towards men wouldn't that just explain away the wage Gap and if there's no corresponding pressure on women to be providers and to
07:01:14Brian Atlasmake money wouldn't that just explain away all this and why you find men in positions of power because women desire men in positions of power you can't really say the same thing about men it's
07:01:26Brian Atlasnot it's not really an attraction trigger does anybody disagree you just all agree or you just want to be silent I mean I feel like not all women desire men and
07:01:38Brian Atlaspower sure that's fine do you think all women desire a man who can provide for them I don't so you don't desire men at all right but but if I'm if we're
07:01:50Brian Atlaslooking speaking generally if even 50% of women say the guy has to pay for the first date he has to be a provider he has to be able to hold down the
07:01:59Brian Atlashousehold and then there's like 1% of men who can S I don't even think it's 1% of men who are prepared to say I want a woman to pay for first AIDS I want a woman to be a provider I want a
07:02:12Brian Atlaswoman to I want the woman to be the sole bread winner and I want to stay at home first off those men are going to struggle far more in the dating Marketplace than women who have the exact same standard that they do for men
07:02:24Brian Atlasso I mean it's just it's honestly there's plenty of factors but it can just really just be explained Away by women's own preferences
07:02:32Brian Atlasand actually men have a um men want women more than men want women more than women want men yeah I
07:02:43Brian Atlasfeel like men have a higher sex drive men are much more motivated by uh being able to secure courtship or not secure uh romantic partner or
07:02:56Brian Atlaswhatever okay okay I'll just ask you guys a question do you guys think men care about your career no no no yes doctor you want to be a doctor
07:03:08Brian Atlasdon't you don't you want to be a doctor do you think huh I don't know I think it depends you don't know maybe it depend you guys aren't offended you you you guys are going to sit here and not be offended that I just said men probably don't really care in terms to be
07:03:21Brian Atlasprobably don't give in terms of what they find attractive in terms of what they find attractive you won't be more attractive the uh you won't be more attractive to a man if you have various
07:03:32Brian Atlasacademic achievements you get your bachelor's degree master's degree PhD uh you won't be more attractive to a man because you have a high status or high-paying job it's really not
07:03:43Brian Atlasimportant to men you guys have no objections to this at all as women in college as women in college look at you sitting there with your crossed arms why don't you tell us how you really feel
07:03:54Sophia (UCSB)the men I've dated have looked for those so I do disagree but it's also preference I don't know the men you've dated have looked for what education high levels of Education good careers
07:04:06Brian Atlasyou you you haven't graduated from University you haven't achieved the high level of you I mean you're in they look for what's that in our future wait didn't you say that you're
07:04:17Sophia (UCSB)you're still a virgin and not by choice yes wait what not by choice not by choice I'm no she's a she's voluntarily celibate by choice or are
07:04:30Andrew Wilsonyou a i that you said that you weren't going to wait till marriage yes but I haven't met the right guy yeah right you haven't met the right guy you've only met guys who are
07:04:41Andrew Wilsoninterested in your education right right so they haven't been the right guy no yeah so maybe maybe try a construction worker I don't know you
07:04:53Panel (mixed)know somebody's not too interested in the education so I used to believe that lie that men look for women who um have a career or have education or at least the principle that I used to operate
07:05:06Panel (mixed)under is if I'm going to demand that of a man I should at least be able to deliver that which is why part of the reason why I got my degree and then I I started down my career and then my dating preference was always the man had
07:05:18Panel (mixed)to make as much money as myself or higher right um and when you look at men they they really honestly don't care and it wasn't until I got with my fiance and it offended me at first because I worked
07:05:29Panel (mixed)so hard to get to where I was to making the amount of money that I was making and he made it abundantly clear like that does not matter at all so there there's such a lie that's being fed to
07:05:40Panel (mixed)women um you don't need the degree to impress the guy you don't need the career um I think a lot of women would be better off um staying out of debt not
07:05:51Panel (mixed)getting that degree um and being honest and if they want to be traditional find a traditional man and just skip the whole heartache of going through college because I'm telling you wasted a lot of
07:06:02Brian Atlastime and money and I just want to make one thing clear here I don't have any objections to women pursuing uh you know higher education if you want totally
07:06:11Brian Atlasgreat uh I think it's I think we should be uh and I mean this in the most charitable way we ought to be uh exploiting women's intelligence and uh
07:06:24Brian AtlasManpower especially if you know they want to uh research things like uh cancer I think we should be throwing uh all our Manpower and I suppose women
07:06:33Brian Atlaspower woman power too although manpow encompasses woman power into uh researching these things and trying to find cures for Alzheimer's and cancer
07:06:44Brian Atlasand Etc and if uh women can assist in this endeavor I think it's uh it's expedient not expedient it's uh good to do so but when we're talking about dating when we're talking about what men
07:06:55Brian Atlasand women find attractive it's not clear to me Andrew is laughing he's like no uh it's not clear to me if like a man will find you more
07:07:05Panel (mixed)attractive because you're a lawyer or a doctor or us to be afraid of being called um a gold digger all the time like that was my fear when I would
07:07:16Panel (mixed)pursue wealthy men and I I didn't want to be called a gold digger so I wanted to be able to say like well I bring this to the table so I'm not a gold digger you know at least that was my thought
07:07:27Brian Atlasprocess 21 necessarily hurt in a relationship but like
07:07:35Brian Atlasif a guy has a choice between like an attractive Pleasant nice girl who works at Chick-fil-A who makes minimum wage and like a 30-year-old female
07:07:47Panel (mixed)attorney he's picking the chick she he's picking the girl who works a Chick-fil-A right well I know at least for me I work
07:07:56Panel (mixed)at a little home daycare and anytime I tell a guy that I work at a daycare he's just like oh damn those lucky kids what I wouldn't do to have like be one of your students like what I
07:08:08Panel (mixed)would do if like you were my teacher and I'm just like okay it's always just made into like a fetishizing thing wait what well I don't think you should be offended I I think that's I'm not offended it just seems
07:08:19Panel (mixed)that like that's the only reason guys care is because they think it's hot that I'm like a little preschool teacher no they find it attractive that you're good at caring for children yeah they've
07:08:30Andrew Wilsonnever said it that way though well men are never going to say things the way that women want them to say it so hang on hang on hang on let me see if I get this right though no you could just say I want to know if you're full
07:08:42Andrew Wilsonof it here you're good with kids do they do they come off like it's fetishizing or do they say damn those are lucky kids yeah I mean some of them are just like that's not fetishizing to say that what they're doing is they're trying to give
07:08:55Andrew Wilsonyou a compliment and tell you that they think that you're beautiful they're not trying to fetishize nothing and so what they do is they take occupation that you're familiar with and they make an offhand comment like that because it's
07:09:05Andrew Wilsonfunny and it's witty and they think that they can in that way call you beautiful without it sounding sappy no it's just immature sorry boys I think it's just immature you could just tell me that I
07:09:18Andrew Wilsonthink it's immature to compliment women at all because you're all just brats about it and finding finish it's a just always Brad I wouldn't compliment any of them it's just always a bad idea compliment always a bad idea just
07:09:30Panel (mixed)wouldn't do it that's totally okay that's not okay for patriarchy donated $30 Ladies Brian proved everyone needs
07:09:41SPEAKER_14random men in their life to help them on a daily basis not Bears this is true all right thank you for the patriarchy appreciate it like how would how donated
07:09:51SPEAKER_14$30 all men have a percentage of gay in them it's just a matter of how gay are going LOL or men are gay what percent of
07:09:59Nataliegay are you that's funny now I guess so 200 epirus 29 donated
07:10:08Brian Atlas$69 I'll save the three gills by Brian thank you cool sweet so so I just there's more coming through just FYI there's oh okay
07:10:20Panel (mixed)we I was just I was just wondering very quickly if you what is the proper way for a man to compliment you for me personally I would just rather much them come up to me and say hey I think you're really pretty just something nice and
07:10:32Andrew Wilsonplain and simple and not something that can be weirdly misconstrued to the point so no extra credit for being witty for like for trying to find figure out a way to compliment you while also
07:10:44Panel (mixed)being kind of funny no extra credit for that like not really funny I don't appreciate being told back oh I wish you were my teacher I don't I don't appreciate that it's not
07:10:55SPEAKER_00funny to me I think it just depends how you perceive it going to be John donated $ to be Brian's lack of kind knowledge lost all my respect now due strictly to
07:11:06SPEAKER_00physical limitations big red is the only one in the room I look up to okay Robbie heck music donated $30
07:11:16SPEAKER_10John 316 16 for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life God bless amen God bless you
07:11:32SPEAKER_04Mike Mafia donated $30 connect the battery terminals to the S Asian girl in glasses her BS stories about being bored of men and wasting their time is a joke
07:11:45SPEAKER_04fake okay David TC donated $31 thank you bro sent a pick of Bronco shirt to roast I can't everyone was nice and I hope Tom Brady runs for vep and Andrew quit
07:11:57Brian Atlassmoking you're welcome Rachel Andre mad eat more Ryan show me the Weight Watchers app yo David good to see you in the chat man appreciate your patronage thank you
07:12:07SPEAKER_14man appreciate it Curtis leonore donated $30 makeup removal time go on my Instagram it's there sofa all
07:12:19SPEAKER_14trades uh we have quite a few more coming through Skool thank you for the uh twitch sub Michigan Christian donated
07:12:29SPEAKER_14$30 she not here very beautiful your views have been spot on and I respect your to focus on God I'm not far from
07:12:38SPEAKER_14MSU I'd love to meet you even if it means she going to Sayo I'll retrigger it donated $30 B
07:12:49Brian Atlasvideo all right here we'll do the bow video go ahead pull it up I want you to Boom huge bow love it
07:12:59Brian Atlasbow that's funny huge I think women should like like your girlfriend or whatever like even first date I think a girl should like hit a bow for you it shows
07:13:10Brian Atlasrespect and this is like me coming home after my like long uh podcast session and she's got my beer ready she's going to stir my noodles dinner's
07:13:21Brian Atlasready you know not stirring it fast enough so she you know picks up the pace and then just yeah have one more time the bow though the bow boom
07:13:32Panel (mixed)huge huge do you would you guys bow for your I'm going to try that would you guys bow going around the table would you bow for your partner sure if she yes
07:13:42Panel (mixed)I don't care yeah yeah you do it maybe I don't a he bows to me then yeah no he doesn't bow to you no wouldn't do it has to go both ways thing what about
07:13:54Panel (mixed)you I want to be AOS to it but I probably wouldn't do it every single time I I would but my husband told me no so oh okay all right yeah if he'd ask me
07:14:02SPEAKER_14to no Morgan no damn Morgan what the yes Morgan I would you do it if he asked me to yeah okay all right never
07:14:12SPEAKER_14mind I Robert PR donated $30 question to the panel women being The Gatekeepers of sex and Men The Gatekeepers of marriage who is the prize
07:14:24Brian Atlasjust really quick who's the prize men or women women who's the prize women I don't
07:14:36Panel (mixed)know can can we move this on please oh sorry yeah I don't know I guess women both I say both I think men both
07:14:46Panel (mixed)both women are the prize but women should prize their men there you go are there more attractive women or more attractive men wom
07:14:57Panel (mixed)wom we can how not the man how is the man not the surpris them you'd be lucky because the man's value is not defined by his physical
07:15:08Brian Atlasappearance well I mean attractive in general
07:15:15Brian Atlasso okay so it's other things Beyond just his physical appearance too correct if which is also more rare than female Beauty if he's the leader shouldn't he
07:15:27Andrew Wilsonbe the prize of the household so than men the logic here Brian's getting after is that if more far more men are less
07:15:38Andrew Wilsonattractive than women then that means there's a broader pool for men to choose from of attractive women and less of a pool of attractive men for women to choose from so if there's less of us to
07:15:50SPEAKER_14choose from than there are you then wouldn't that necessarily make that small pool of men the prize
07:15:58SPEAKER_14yeah zore Amsterdam donated $301 re women's contribution to science the Indian covid vaccine team were
07:16:08SPEAKER_14mostly women Indian space agency is R moon mission mostly women and control center lots of places they could contribute yeah that's totally totally
07:16:19SPEAKER_05fine sccore ofor toilet does make them more attractive to men in a dating what do you call it when too much of transexuals have sex what the microtransaction
07:16:30SPEAKER_05what the f question if it's socially unacceptable to push your religion onto others then how come it is when it comes to gender views it's a fair
07:16:40SPEAKER_06question okay cool Max donated $30 conflating compatibility with sexual
07:16:53SPEAKER_06attractiveness you want to be bored with a hot wife who will eventually grow old there's a wage Gap I make a ton more than most men make me a
07:17:02SPEAKER_10sandwich low paladins donated $30 stop coping black hoodie you had a good man you scared him off with your broken feminist conditioning you say you want
07:17:12SPEAKER_10friendly compliments but you're not attracted to any man that would damn that's crazy cool all right we had while you were gone kaani this woman came through compliment Michigan Christian
07:17:24SPEAKER_10donated $30 I like this voice Jani you are very beautiful your views have been spoton and I respect your will to focus on God I'm not far from MSU I'd love to
07:17:35SPEAKER_10meet you even if it means waiting any contact info socials I think I answered for you Mike
07:17:44SPEAKER_10Mafia donated $30 sorry I can't get over this there is no way I trust a surgery done by sleepy yawning glasses SL Ling girl who wants to be a hard I
07:17:55Brian Atlasagree second it's past her bedtime second good luck world okay am I like this voice man I'm going to keep it
07:18:03Brian Atlasmaybe um let's see here uh what else what else was there wait we did the bow video there's something
07:18:18Brian Atlaselse I don't know uh we're going to do a twitch raid we're going to raid Andrew I'm trying to there was so what oh my what was the other thing it was so good
07:18:31Brian Atlasno it wasn't that wasn't that oh me getting cut in half no to no time hold on Andrew I'm going to get set up here to raid you are we not going to
07:18:43Panel (mixed)see you flexing nobody did the champagne pop we were a boring panel sorry
07:18:51Brian Atlaseverybody sorry sorry hold on uh one sec guys I'm doing what was the other thing there was another thing oh it's going to
07:19:03Brian Atlasbug me so much oh wait wage Gap did somebody bring up the wage Gap or you did I think that was in a comment was a comment
07:19:13Brian Atlasoh since we have a couple Asian women here what do you guys think about the whole uh Asian women out earning white men what do you think of that congrats guys I didn't know that
07:19:25Brian Atlasbut that's awesome didn't know that but W in the chat for Asian women awes coming the white man let's go can you pull up the infographic Nick I don't
07:19:35Brian Atlaswant them to think my I'm I'm faking this it's it's absolutely true absolutely true bada bing bada boom you know it's
07:19:46Brian Atlascalled uh it's probably in the wage Gap infographics folder I can try to find it if you can't
07:19:55Brian Atlasshould be wage wage Asian women uh it's
07:20:05Brian Atlasthe yeah that works look at that W Asian women you guys have overtaken the the white [Music]
07:20:17Brian Atlasman2 good job can we get a can we get a round of applause for Asian women oh my God damn bro holy that
07:20:27Brian Atlaswas crazy okay congrats congrats you guys did it you you guys overcame oppression and all that stuff I'm proud of you guys I'm proud of you guys proud
07:20:38Brian Atlasof you I am passing the the whatever it's called okay uh we're going to do uh twitch raid Nick if we can who we going to raid who we going
07:20:49Brian Atlasto raid we got W Grandma we got Aladar we got esand uh we're going to do we're going to do Aladar
07:21:01Brian Atlasall right guys I'm going to do my outro so uh GG well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that
07:21:12Brian Atlasthank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the the show your patronage is very much appreciated really uh want to thank all you guys who sent in a TTS or message or what have
07:21:23Brian Atlasyou thank you guys we will be live again Sunday donated $30 Asian women who the f said 22 bucks it was 102 bucks I thought y'all were supposed to be good
07:21:36Brian Atlasat math hey okay cool uh any girls who want to be on the show DM at whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara 07s in the chat thank you guys for watching on Twitch Nick could you
07:21:48Brian Atlaspull up Aladar going to give him a raid he's playing World of Warcraft classic fresh vanilla all right I'm going to send that
07:21:58Brian Atlasover in just a moment 0's in the chat oh wait really quick ah wait hold on um wait Nick pull up twitch really quick we got to do our last twitch shout out my bad I forgot that that uh guys go to
07:22:10Brian Atlastwitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub twitch.tv drop us a follow drop us a prime sub guys really quick check if you have an available Prime sub in the chat it's been 19 minutes since we got Prime I think it's
07:22:21Brian Atlasbugged help help help uh drop us a follow also on your way out guys drop us a prime sub if you have one really appreciate thank you guys for watching on Twitch thank you thank you all right pull it back to Aladar I'm going to send
07:22:32Brian Atlasthat over in just 7 Seconds like I said he's playing World of Warcraft classic fresh refresh it you're going to have to refresh it probably okay you got it all right guys
07:22:44SPEAKER_01for watching on Twitch thank you guys appreciate your support over there on Twitch time they're on at I'm going to send the raid damn his hair's all let's go to
07:22:55SPEAKER_01Thunder Bluff he's got bad is there a uh he's playing hey hey whatever what's up man he's playing an orc Hunter I was
07:23:05SPEAKER_01watching some of uh the whatever podcast today can you hear us no how's it going I I watched some of your podcast today
07:23:14SPEAKER_01actually uh before I had to go out uh world's tallest human or longest legs for woman if you guys haven't seen
07:23:23SPEAKER_01this This Woman's got legs that are that are longer than Alex ual amazing who who uh it's I guess it's
07:23:32Brian Atlasanother streamer 3 in legs or something like that or 52 in Crazy welcome everyone okay okay all right that's it for that welcome welcome welcome you can you can stop that I just want to double
07:23:44Brian Atlascheck here make sure we have the raid all good to go for Andrew we do these girls know sign language or something I'm not sure entirely what were you doing gang signs what were you doing bro it was her birthday yesterday she turned
07:23:55Panel (mixed)happy birthday like yesterday or like right just right now oh I guess yes what time is it 12:33 the 23rd so yesterday so today technically yeah just letting you know it's all
07:24:06Brian Atlasdownhill at 20 okay thank you I know congrats your life is over um anyways uh 07s in the chat guys we're sending a raid over to Andrew uh be sure to drop
07:24:17Brian Atlashim a sub uh when you're over there uh always good to have Andrew in the chat in the show uh thank you yeah I enjoy your perspective final final word yeah it was nice to meet all you guys uh hope
07:24:30Brian Atlasto see all of you back except for the troll back there but all the rest of you you okay I don't know she's coming back hi Andrew all right okay 07s in the chat I hope you
07:24:42Brian Atlasguys have a uh good night and we will uh see you Sunday with the next dating talk good night guys bye bye