She Is 6ft10?! She Gets BORED & Dumps Men?! Single BUT Unavailable? 3 VlRGlNS? | Dating Talk #181
Date: 2024-07-24
Duration: 7h 24m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Natalie(guest)
SPEAKER_03Panel (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_13Sophia (UCSB)(guest)
Key Moments
00:03:13
IntroGuest panel introductions round
“have the guests introduce themselves please tell us your name age location and occupation”
00:08:39
QuoteSophia Nevada reveals she is Miss Nevada United World, competing for international title Labor Day 2024
“I'm also currently your Miss Nevada United World I will be competing for the international title this Labor Day weekend”
00:19:56
QuoteSophia UCSB reveals she gets bored and dumps men every ~3 months; the "3-month rule"
“I get bored with a person... do you know the 3 month rule you're always excited to see this person and you just want to hang out with them all the time and then like that feeling just slowly fades away”
00:23:02
QuoteSophia (UCSB) wants to see boyfriend only once every 2 weeks - described as wanting extreme independence
“I want a long-distance relationship maybe see each other once every two weeks”
00:40:52
QuoteKaani reveals she is "single but not available" - still loves Muslim ex, waiting to heal
“I am single but not available... I'm single but I'm not interested or looking for anyone... my heart is still for him”
01:16:46
QuoteVirgin hat trick reveal - Sophia UCSB, Victoria, and one other guest all confirmed virgins
“wait are you also a virgin okay any other virgins any virgins virgins at the table no way there's no way”
01:50:58
QuoteBear vs man scenario introduced - asking panel who they would rather be dropped in forest with
“you get randomly dropped into a forest you can choose for a random man or a random bear to also be randomly dropped in a forest with you”
02:01:55
QuoteSophia UCSB claims 60% of men would murder or assault a woman - Brian challenges the figure
“more than 50%... 60%... 60% would do what murder you either murder me or try to like essay you”
03:04:55
QuoteHaley shares story of 3yr situationship with man who withheld all relationship privileges "not until you're my wife"
“anytime someone tells you they won't do certain things for you unless you are their wife run”
03:14:20
QuoteHaley confronts that ex gave new girlfriend everything within 1 month that he withheld from her for 3 years
“literally a month later and did everything post within one month... shared my location with her and I just didn't feel like I needed to unshare it”
Topics Discussed
00:03:13
Guest introductions
Each guest introduces themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian follows up with relationship status for each.
00:09:40
Dating app profile review
Panel reviews a submitted dating app (Hinge) profile from a Princeton student. Discusses what "spontaneous adventure" means in dating profiles.
01:01:40
Roster / dating multiple people
Discussion of whether guests have had a "roster" of multiple dating partners simultaneously. Sophia admits to breaking up due to boredom (3-month rule).
01:10:00
Macy - height, world record, dating, OnlyFans
Extended discussion with Macy about her 6'10" height, Guinness World Record for longest female legs, dating challenges, OnlyFans content (dick ratings), Marfan syndrome.
01:21:40
Sticky note / body count and traditional values
Kaani presents sticky note analogy: women lose "stickiness" with high body count if seeking traditional men. Panel debates.
01:33:20
Virgins reveal / virgin hat trick
Sophia (UCSB), Victoria (implied), and a third guest revealed as virgins. Discussion of waiting for right person vs marriage.
01:50:58
Bear vs man in forest
Classic bear/man thought experiment. Panel split: Macy, Sophia (UCSB), Natalie pick bear; others pick man. Discussion of fear of men, random threat probability.
02:00:00
Sexual assault statistics / UCSB study
Sophia (UCSB) cites orientation study claiming 7/10 UCSB women experienced "essay" (broadly defined). Brian challenges definition including catcalling.
03:05:00
Haley - 3yr situationship / withheld commitment
Haley shares story of man who refused to post her/share location/"until you are my wife" for 3 years, then gave new girlfriend everything within 1 month.
03:06:00
Why men move on faster (or do women?)
Discussion of which gender moves on faster post-breakup. Haley argues women move on faster; evolutionary explanation from Brian (men dying in war).
03:15:00
50/50 relationships and who pays
Panel debate on 50/50 relationship dynamics, who pays on first date, and who should ask whom out.
04:26:40
Age gap debate
Discussion on age gaps in relationships. Brian asks whether healthy 20yr/33yr relationship is better than jaded same-age dating.
06:36:40
Andrew Wilson call-in: trans identity debate
Andrew Wilson calls in. Extended debate on transgender identity, ontological sex categories, trans disclosure in dating, gender and patriarchy.
07:01:40
Men not caring about women's careers
Brian argues men do not find women more attractive due to academic/career achievements. Panel debates, Sophia Nevada agrees from personal experience.
07:20:00
Outro / raid
Brian wraps up, does Twitch raid of Aladar (World of Warcraft). Andrew Wilson raid mentioned.
Transcript
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02:47:12
Brian Atlasfollows holy oh my God they are on fire sh German I'm thinking of Germany in the corner yo Barry crunch thank you for the
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Brian AtlasPrime look oh my God these guys are on fire holy what is going on uh blansky thank for the Prime oh my God oh my God oh yo tall Rick look at the
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Brian AtlasPrime oh my goodness oh my what is going on wait is this like this I've never seen this happen bro this is crazy like we'll get like two followers it actually might be bugged this time I think it's
02:47:48
Brian Atlasactually Bugg yo tasty oh my God these guys are on fire what are you doing the are the no way bro are we getting is it like a bot attack like
02:48:00
Brian Atlasthey're just Bots who are following I don't know yo tasty thank for the tier one tall rck thing for the prime plunky thing for the prime Barry crunch thing
02:48:08
Brian Atlasfor the prime no there's no way who's bu oh my this has to be is somebody like uh trying to
02:48:20
Brian AtlasI don't know that's crazy it's not stopping somebody's definitely buying Apple P there's no way this is not somebody's like I don't know if they're trying to like make it look like we're
02:48:31
Brian Atlasbuying follows or something that's super weird anyways whatever okay all right are you trying to get us banned on Twitch boys it's already bugged our twitch is already bugged and you're trying to get us banned all right all right thank you guys for the follows and
02:48:43
Brian Atlasthen also reminder can you pull up the center thing yeah uh you're going to have to guys TTS 200 read 100 display 10 okay all right
02:48:55
Brian Atlasfinal things here on the bear thing I guess uh couple questions clarifying questions
02:49:04
Brian Atlasum if uh you were in a bathroom would you rather a man or a bear wanders
02:49:13
Panel (mixed)[Music] in bathroom in a bathroom in the bathroom I know like I'm at home this
02:49:23
Brian Atlasbathroom go to the mic no like into the mic any a public bathroom a bathroom there's stalls you want me to describe the bathroom there's there's five urinals I
02:49:36
Brian Atlasdon't know why you're in the men's bathroom then a men's and then there's five no there's sorry there's no urinals it's the woman's bathroom woman's bathroom you're in the woman's bathroom and a man want so he thinks he's a girl
02:49:48
Brian Atlaswas would you rather a man or a bear wanders into a woman's bathroom woman's bathroom and walked in so he thinks he's a girl well we're not getting there yet but so a man knows that it's a woman's
02:49:59
Brian Atlasbathroom and he just walked in or he knows we don't know what he knows he just walks in would you rather it's what you would rather a man or a bear wanders in which
02:50:11
Brian Atlasone it's not that Hardo God damn
02:50:21
Panel (mixed)I don't and we don't know the intentions of either right still one Sor still B still bear okay what about you skip me for now I don't know I thinky what about you I'd probably still go with the
02:50:33
Panel (mixed)bear I feel like she'll go with either a man do you what do you pick H dude okay
02:50:43
Panel (mixed)dude like probably a man ET later just because I've been in like the
02:50:53
Panel (mixed)multi-gender use bathrooms and like it doesn't bother me at all like I'm chill does it change if it's a transgender
02:51:04
Sophia (UCSB)woman transgender woman I would choose to transgender woman even though even though they're still
02:51:13
Panel (mixed)male no because to me she's a woman oh I'll grant you that she's a woman mhm but she's still a male like has male genitalia no just
02:51:26
Brian Atlasstill a male we don't know about the gonads what do you mean by still male well you can't so you can't change your sex unless you think you saying the
02:51:38
Brian Atlasgenitalia is still there no the genitalia could be there it could not be there like the biology unless you're saying a transgender woman can't be a woman
02:51:49
Sophia (UCSB)no she is a woman regardless of the genitalia yeah so the transgender woman could still have a penis but also be a woman yeah but I would rather have the transgender woman in there cuz to me
02:52:00
Brian Atlasthat's a woman she's a woman okay interesting but you would no have no issues then perhaps somebody who's a
02:52:09
Brian Atlasbit more hard lined than you uh not wanting the transgender woman in the bathroom because they consider that to still be a man any objections there no
02:52:21
Panel (mixed)that's their preference their preference yeah okay did you answer trans oh yeah I
02:52:31
Panel (mixed)still be I I'd still choose a human oh okay okay yeah Macy what about you I I agree with her at the end I would choose the transgender woman H
02:52:46
Brian Atlasinteresting what would the I mean back to the original bear question does it change if it's a transgender woman do you prefer the transgender woman over
02:52:58
Brian Atlasthe can you scoot into the table please yeah oh you're asking me yeah does it change your answer to the original
02:53:07
Panel (mixed)question transgender woman I'm scared of men huh
02:53:15
Brian Atlasokay sorry what do you pick what was the question I was for the original question transgender woman or bear and you're in a bathroom so if you were in a bathroom I know some people
02:53:27
Brian Atlasthink some people don't think that that's a woman I don't know where you land on that but some people don't consider that
02:53:36
Panel (mixed)a woman so okay that's valid um I mean in a bathroom transgender
02:53:45
Panel (mixed)woman or or or bear like say transgender woman I don't know it really it really depends cuz like some people like oh my gosh on Tik Tok the other day I know you talked about Tik Tok not being a
02:53:58
Panel (mixed)valuable source of information or whatever but this was actually very different this was a Tik Tok Creator talking about their experience of a woman being harsh and
02:54:10
Panel (mixed)being like get the F out of the bathroom like what are you doing in here to be fair they made no effort to appear like feminine at all still very much
02:54:21
Panel (mixed)dressed as a man still very much like presented as a man so like yeah so they're not a woman then if they don't
02:54:33
Panel (mixed)dress like you're even like attempting to present as a woman yeah like you're just sitting there doing what nothing so if I'm not transgender but I present like a woman does that make me a woman
02:54:49
Brian AtlasI mean no not necess so it's clearly it it's not how you present that simply makes you a woman no you're good okay but at least
02:55:00
Panel (mixed)that would make people more comfortable and at least give the illusion that you know not give the illusion but you know give
02:55:09
Panel (mixed)the I don't know what the right word is but visual c yeah it'll signal to other people that you're at least trying to like
02:55:19
Brian Atlasgo that route and my mind is totally going blank right now um okay well I'm going to move off of the the that part but so a couple
02:55:31
Brian Atlasmore scenarios here you're on the top floor of a burning building and the only way you can get down is to the elevators are still working I know they say to take the stairs but you're going to take there's two
02:55:43
Brian Atlaselevators uh they both open at the same time one has a man in it the other has a bear you need to get to the bomb floor you can only pick one elevator which elevator do you pick oh question can I
02:55:55
Brian Atlasjust jump off the building oh my God nope you have to pick you got to pick the man the man uh you got to pick this is only for the people who answered bear so what do you pick you got to pick
02:56:10
Panel (mixed)one I still pick the bear enclosed space okay I pick the man what about you enclosed space I'm picking the man okay in this scenario I would choose to man to
02:56:22
Panel (mixed)because I know for a fact that once I reach the bottom floor I'm able to get out and there will be civilization if the man tries to do anything I suppose
02:56:31
Panel (mixed)he could still try to do something but uh 6% chance right there's a 60% chance he holds On To You Right using your civilization down there right it's a burning building so I'm hoping the
02:56:42
Brian Atlasfirefighters arrived right I guess my other question um I think one of the TTS is actually made it already but um why is it then when it comes to this man bear thing if uh you go to a zoo that
02:56:55
Brian Atlashas a be enclosure why aren't all the women just jumping into the bear enclosure to get away from all the men that are in the zoo if it's safer to be with a bear than with a man good question and why are
02:57:08
Sophia (UCSB)bears required to be enclosures if they're uh so harmless so harmless at least in comparison to men whereas men are free to walk the streets how dare they think if you're isolated this is a
02:57:20
Sophia (UCSB)different scenario once again you know you're saying man are bear in the middle of the woods where no one is around there are people what if you're at the zoo and there's nobody around and there's a bear enclosure and there's
02:57:32
Brian Atlasjust one man and there's nobody around they can't hear you scream you're just I don't know if you're at a it's a a
02:57:40
Brian AtlasTuesday it's a not well well visit it's not a frequently visited Zoo this part of the zoo is you know there's other more interesting parts of the zoo
02:57:52
Brian Atlasthere's a tiger a lion the bear nobody gives it you know bears are kind of dull so you're alone in a in there's a
02:58:03
Panel (mixed)zoo there's the bear enclosure realistic and then and then there's a man why am I at the zoo alone and why is this man at can I ask you a question how would
02:58:15
Brian Atlasyou feel how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast morning terrible okay okay uh let's see what else what what are some of the other ones
02:58:29
Brian Atlasum I don't know if there's another one there's the bear enclosure there's that we did the bear enclosure um just curious did any of you
02:58:40
Panel (mixed)walk by any men today or the past week how many of them attacked you I gu none but one cat called me while I was literally on my way to practice I considered just dropping my stuff
02:58:52
Panel (mixed)putting my Shines on right there and just like what did he say he literally and it was so funny cuz this guy was decked out in all pink like I'm not talking like pink like he was wearing all neon pink from his hat to his
02:59:05
Panel (mixed)glasses to his shirt to his shorts to his socks to even his slides he just I'm getting my shines out of my trunk and he looks at me and I'm like I'm just like not paying attention I'm walking in and
02:59:17
Panel (mixed)he goes hi chica and then he says something else that I didn't even hear at that point I was already just like okay whatever I'm assuming it wasn't a white
02:59:27
Panel (mixed)guy no he said I chica that's it black well he looked like Kissy Kissy I chica well and then he said some other stuff but I just didn't I didn't catch it you
02:59:38
Panel (mixed)didn't catch it no but I walked into my gym cursing my coach was like look you you were cursing your buttons okay it's so funny to me well yeah cuz I told him to F off obviously obiously
02:59:49
Brian AtlasH okay um I'm curious actually on the cat calling thing right
02:59:57
Brian Atlasso if you could opt to never get cat called by men again but men will never hit on you ever again in other words you would have to take all the initiative
03:00:10
Brian Atlasokay with that you'll never be approached again you'll never get attention from men again you'll never get a DM you'll always have to take the initiative you'll always have to take
03:00:19
Brian Atlasthe lead would you make that trade starting with you oh yeah okay oh no
03:00:25
Brian Atlasyeah 100% I would make the trade mm- no no MM no speak
03:00:34
Panel (mixed)no okay uh okay in different countries like in Costa Rica it's it's so like if you don't get cat called it's kind of like
03:00:45
Panel (mixed)dang do I look good today like when my mom first came here from Costa Rica um she was like Costa Rica no one no one's like saying anything to me like this is
03:00:57
Panel (mixed)weird so I think it honestly just depends in the countries cuz I feel like people from different countries might like it and then here they
03:01:09
Brian Atlasdon't so for those of you who said uh you would switch up I think it was you you not you you um I want to see how you would approach a guy
03:01:21
Brian Atlasso God I mean unless you're just because here's the thing you will never receive any like initial attention from men moving forward so like hold on well I'll
03:01:31
Brian Atlaslet you raise your thing later so unless you just intend to never get married never have a boyfriend never have kids maybe that's your intention but you will have to make the initial move so
03:01:43
Panel (mixed)I'd like for you to here I'll be the guy no I'll be the guy what no no no prob no I have to be the guy what why do you have to be the guy cuz I'm the guy he is a man she has to be attracted to the guy well
03:01:55
Brian Atlasthat's well just just pretend I'm just pretend I'm like a feminist soy boy okay I cannot I cannot just pretend I'm a
03:02:04
Brian Atlasfeminist soy boy you no no I can't okay then don't pretend it's me like pretend there's a blob here and then let's see your game
03:02:15
Brian Atlasgo ahead don't have gamees so you're going to just die a nun basically you just never have kids you said he wanted to get married mhm do you want
03:02:27
Panel (mixed)kids yes so how are you going to make that happen when he's the right man it'll work out it's just I can't do it with Brian you don't have to do it with me you can just I just can't do it in this
03:02:40
Panel (mixed)scenario but once it's the right guy I'll approach him yeah what would you say hey dude you're boring hey there you come here
03:02:50
Brian Atlasoften go what else that's it and then you just expect him to carry the rest of everything forever mhm there you go I mean this is kind of the attitude of
03:03:01
Brian Atlasmost women yeah that's crazy it's true just there's this dating app called Bumble they actually had to change it because the mere fact that you had to send the first message was so
03:03:11
Brian Atlasoverwhelming for women that they just had to change it um it was women were overwhelmed by the burden that's what they called it the burden of sending the first message and somebody who was on
03:03:22
Brian Atlasthis as somebody who was on this dating app women overwhelmingly would just say hi or hey and then immediately push all the burden right back onto you as the
03:03:32
Brian Atlasman so even this dating app which is about female empowerment and giving women the opportunity to take charge even when the rules of the dating app
03:03:42
Brian Atlaslike the men cannot message first you women still can't do it you still can't do it it's still a burden for you to even do a token level of initiative you
03:03:53
Brian Atlasjust say hey and then immediately boom all everything else just Falls right back into the man's lap it's interesting how that works well I was kidding I would say hey dude and then make conversation with them and go I know
03:04:06
Brian Atlaslike throughout this conversation your answers are pretty yes yes no I'm not I'm not very confident in your conversational ability no when it's
03:04:18
Panel (mixed)the right guy conversation when it's the right guy but what makes you the right woman I don't know that's compelling who knows who knows super good faith answer just a
03:04:33
Panel (mixed)mystery what about you let's hear it run some game oh shoot man I don't really got no game here can you is there space for you to scoot your chair like way into the table yeah little is this close enough at the mic the chair no I mean
03:04:45
Panel (mixed)like scoot your chair and so it's you don't have to leave well I tried before but I have a feeling that I kind of oh thank you ladies they got you they got you love the girl support all right run
03:04:56
Panel (mixed)some game Let's Hear It goad cam you got this spit some game I don't got no game I probably just approach them like a normal person be like hi um my name is Jenny it depends on the setting I guess
03:05:07
Panel (mixed)if we're like oh Trader Joe's okay okay okay I've never been there same then honestly I'd still probably just walk up to them and be like hi my name is JY I
03:05:17
Panel (mixed)think you're really attractive I would like to see if we have or could have a good connection can I get your phone number or can we set something up like I don't know just approach them like a
03:05:30
Panel (mixed)normal human being if it's at a bar I'd probably ask if I can buy them a drink we can sit down and talk I don't know or you can offer to buy their groceries bro I'd be like you get this I get this and
03:05:41
Panel (mixed)we make dinner okay okay I'm disappointed you had something Macy that you wanted to oh I like don't even want to attract men
03:05:51
Brian Atlasthat's not my goal so that's it doesn't really apply to you I guess yeah okay all right uh I'm going to get into some more my pre-show notes Here we have uh
03:06:00
Brian Atlaslet's see let's go to who do we have Haley mhm Haley you said
03:06:10
Panel (mixed)that uh hold on what's the condom story oh great okay so um couple years ago I was just like talking
03:06:20
Panel (mixed)to some guy and he we it was just like uh just we couldn't really put a label to he didn't really want to he just told me hey I'm loyal da d d da but I had another person
03:06:33
Panel (mixed)in my ear like saying no he's not loyal he's not he's doing this D but I had never had any proof and for me I struggle with trust so I really need to visually see it or know it and I can't take hear from other people I need to
03:06:46
Panel (mixed)get the evidence from the person themselves and I had went over to his place and found like a use condom on his ground under his pillow and I was like
03:06:57
Panel (mixed)the pillow was like on the ground that's disgusting it was and it was crazy cuz we had I'm wondering like how long it's been there because we went to
03:07:06
Panel (mixed)like the dog shelter all day like it was just insane and so he was out playing the game or whatever with his friends and I was just doing homework and still like two to this day I have
03:07:18
Panel (mixed)such trust issues from that because he told me it was from a trash bag that he had like put old clothes and stuff in in his closet from when he moved out like eight or nine months prior and he was randomly going through it that day and
03:07:32
Panel (mixed)it must have fallen out and he didn't see and blah blah blah blah blah and it was like it really messed me up like emotionally were you guys using
03:07:40
Brian Atlascondoms oh no so he can't he can't explain the way that way uhuh
03:07:50
Panel (mixed)yeah y yeah he's cheating on you yeah till this day he still denies it till this day I don't talk to him anymore I could pull him up and he denies oh come
03:08:01
Panel (mixed)on there's mystery condom Z it happens come on you've seen I've seen thrown into a trash bag months later eight months okay then he's just gross then he's just gross I found one in my car
03:08:13
Panel (mixed)that my ex's friend had left because unpronounced to me me theyed in my car e yeah that's crazy e what dis okay to be fair we were
03:08:25
Panel (mixed)pretty drunk a good portion of the weekend so I could have said yes and just don't remember it but I feel like I would never say yes to someone who's not
03:08:34
Brian Atlaseven my friend who my boyfriend's friend and his girlfriend screwing in my car yikes speaking of condoms um if uh question let's say you were
03:08:46
Brian Atlashooking up with a guy and uh you were like you know you were down DTF or whatever and then you're but you asked you're like do you have like a
03:08:56
Brian Atlasrubber do you have a condom and he's like of course I of course of course and then he pulls this out what is that it's a female cond a female condom I've never
03:09:08
Panel (mixed)seen never seen one can I see that okay put it on yeah put it on what's your reaction you wait how do you do I just put it on I don't confused how that even
03:09:18
Panel (mixed)works the woman it's for you yeah but how does it even push it in there it's like B where it just goes in I've used one I've never seen that this is weird weird they're weird for
03:09:31
Brian Atlasthe man wait what this is weird weird weird I don't like that you wouldn't you wouldn't be down like would you go for it or not I'd prefer that the
03:09:42
Panel (mixed)guy has a I prefer that he didn't pull out a condom like that cuz Okay the one time I did do it he was the one who said It felt weird oh and I think that was just a him
03:09:53
Panel (mixed)not being able to fill it out issue wait this yeah he's not supposed to no I I know but he said that was uncomfortable about that oh he was like
03:10:04
Panel (mixed)it's uncomfortable cuz I like don't fill it out and I was like I don't see how that makes it uncomfortable but whatever sweet just thought I'd throw that out there that's funny hilarious anyways going back to you
03:10:17
Panel (mixed)you said anytime someone tells you they won't do certain things for you unless you are their wife run yeah so buckle up my relationship or whatever of the last 3 years it
03:10:29
Panel (mixed)literally the whole three years it was I'm not doing this unless you're my wife I'm not we can't go to the bars I wasn't allowed to his birthday party he strongly manipulated me and convinced me that like that was normal I can't go
03:10:41
Panel (mixed)hang out with him and his friends like for his own birthday we have to we had to celebrate his birthday on like a different day because he was supposed to go to the bar with his friends I can't like have his location which I was never huge into that it's just he was like
03:10:54
Panel (mixed)nope you can't you're not my wife I will not post you until it's literally our wedding day I don't care how long we're dating like manipulated me and I'm like I love this guy he's my best friend we've been best friends for 3 years like I'm getting little bits here and there
03:11:07
Panel (mixed)so I'm like maybe it could work maybe it won't and then we ended things this last um February March April is and he got
03:11:17
Panel (mixed)new girlfriend literally a month later and did everything post within one month he and he told me this he we were together in the car when he was like by the way I'm talking to somebody else and was like oh and you you know Haley like
03:11:30
Panel (mixed)it's so weird cuz you always said that once you find the one like these are going to become it's going to become easier you're going to want to do these things you're going to want to go out of your way to make this person feel special because that's what I did to him
03:11:41
Panel (mixed)like I loved this guy and I still do he's was my best friend for so long he laid it all out on the table and literally was like oh I shared my location it was just an accident but like literally one week of knowing her I
03:11:52
Panel (mixed)went to go hang out with her and Novi the big mall over there and shared my location with her and I just didn't feel like I needed to unshare it and then oh yeah I'm like I've been posting on Tik Tok like I love you took him 3 years to
03:12:04
Panel (mixed)even say he loved me and he probably didn't mean it and within one month he's posting this girl on social media sharing it not his wife but you know so I just I've learned my lesson that if someone says I'm not going to do this
03:12:15
Panel (mixed)unless X Y and Z that they're gonna do it just not for me they're going to do it for somebody else that they feel more comfortable in or with yeah you were you were the side piece oh yeah well you were the side piece well I think the
03:12:27
Panel (mixed)lesson learned is you need to set your boundaries and stand by them oh yeah I never did I set them but then I got little bits here and there and you made me believe in butt yeah so this woman most likely is strong willed and she had
03:12:40
Panel (mixed)requirements and she wasn't going to bend on them he respected her for it so it's a lesson learned I'm so sorry that happened to you I'm going to read this really quick Brian you just found the perfect $15 McDonald's hamburger vers $1
03:12:52
Brian Atlassteak girl don't worry I'm sure she'll make the next man wait three months for sex wait what $15 McDonald's hamburger vers $1 steak girl don't worry I'm sure she'll
03:13:03
Brian Atlasmake the next man wait 3 months for sex wait what what does that mean I don't know I'm confused all paladins I'm confused what do you mean perfect $15 McDonald's hamburger God uh
03:13:17
Brian Atlasokay compliment I maybe I don't know okay well whatever um going back to you you said that uh I uh hold on why do men move on
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Brian Atlasfaster so I mean just shove hands at the table do you guys think men who uh men move on faster than women from relationships I think it depends yeah I think it
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Panel (mixed)depends so just you two well well my situation we've been emotionally not connected anymore for many many months it was just that thought of you're still my best friend I can't live
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Panel (mixed)my life without you but we knew the relationship was over we were stretching for months to make it work just digging in for anything so I think he he he moved on a lot quicker because while we
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Panel (mixed)were still together he knew we were done and so he was moving on day by day like little bit he was seeing things I was seeing things we weren't communicating we weren't we were just arguing so he was moving on while we were still together and I was still hanging on to
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Panel (mixed)that hope of one day one day he'll do this one day he'll do that because I got a little bit here and there and I clinged on to that like any red flag that came my way I was like no but remember that one time he did that one
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Panel (mixed)thing I was just really like hanging on to that and so I think in my situation he moved on quicker I think in some situations maybe a man like you said just a side piece he doesn't really care about the girl he's going to move on
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Brian Atlasquicker because he didn't have true feelings but well I think this the nature of this question is assuming both people are fairly equally invested into
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Panel (mixed)the relationship no I don't man's in love I think women move on way faster they do way faster cuz even if a man does hook up with another woman I don't
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Panel (mixed)think he's using that head it's not emotional it's just physical it's just a
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Panel (mixed)nut basically and like and I also think that over time they start they like will miss you more over time m mhm and then
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Panel (mixed)realize it afterwards compared to a woman we try to detach immediately and then over time we actually don't have anything we seek validation immediately I think women just get checked out like two months before the breakup and then
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Brian Atlasthey're just planning the breakup and by the time the breakup actually occurs there I mean sometimes there's like spontaneous breakups and stuff here pass me the uh Spider
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Brian Atlasback got it thank you Tick Tock over here Tick Tock brain um oh a spider let
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Brian Atlasme uh okay so um yeah I think uh I think women move on way faster I actually think there's a biological reason for this an
03:15:59
Brian Atlasevolutionary reason what was that well like here it is so uh historically men would go off to war and die and so and then also I mean even
03:16:12
Brian Atlasthere's like a bit more darker Sinister component to this like back when they were like conquering conquering tribes and where it's basically like one civilization conquers another civilization okay we're going to kill
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Brian Atlasall the men and then we're now taking your women as wives Conquering the wives yeah so like women had to almost be able to like how do I cope with like that you know okay so I think
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Brian Atlason that level because their their men are more likely to die in war and also that component I think there's an evolutionary basis maybe that makes a little sense some Grace there
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Panel (mixed)wait I have a question for people do you guys since you were talking about going off War do you guys believe a relationship should be 50/50 or no let's go around the table starting
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Panel (mixed)with you in terms of yeah I believe 50/50 close to 5050 close to 50-50 I think we kind of already talked about this a little bit but yeah pretty close
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Panel (mixed)to 50/50 I think 50/50 I do so yeah no yes wait did you say yes mhm yes yeah yes I think men and women give like different parts in a relationship so I
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Panel (mixed)don't think I can put it in like a number cuz it's so different that's true I also don't have a number well do you think it should be 50/50 I don't know I think people pulled
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Panel (mixed)their way differently I'll ask some clarifying questions but yeah I think that's unrealistic yeah um I think both people give 100% and sometimes someone's going to give 20% the other person has to make up for that and it's just a
03:17:43
Brian Atlasseason of their relationship um I'm I'll come back really quick to 50/50 but I do want to read L Paladin's chat here this is the gender swapped version of a woman making a man wait for sex she got side pieced
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Brian Atlaseven though she even though he was willing to give emotional commitment right away to another woman well let me preface that oh I see what you're saying I see what you're saying no no no we had
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Panel (mixed)an emotional connection for many years it was just he wasn't I don't think I was the woman for him I don't know oh I just personally don't think I was the woman for him no matter how much I gave
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Panel (mixed)my life to him we didn't even have sex for the longest of time and we when we did we were only having sex for almost two years just each other only and I firmly believe that was the truth on his end he I just knew I wasn't the right
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Panel (mixed)woman for him and no matter how much I try to make him the man for me I was just digging my whole deeper and we got to the point there were instances towards the end of our relationship where he did things and I did things and
03:18:42
Brian Atlaswe just like we knew this was okay but okay okay hold on so you said that even though you guys had like a two or three year relationship he got into a new relationship and all the things he was withholding from you he gave to that new
03:18:55
Brian Atlasgirl immediately okay so to provide a bit of context we've had this conversation on the show a whole bunch is about so like women who have really no qualms at all with having casual sex
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Brian Atlasbut when they land on a guy who they perhaps deem as like long-term worthy or boyfriend worthy despite having no Hang-Ups when it comes to just a guy immediately they're going to make
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Brian Atlashim wait conceivably the guy who's would obviously be most deserving of it they'll make him wait LTR guy boyfriend guy wait weeks months longer to have sex
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Brian Atlasso this is like the this sort of he's just alluding to that okay by saying how that would be a frustration as a woman that you dated this guy for the longest and he didn't do any of that but
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Panel (mixed)he's dating a new girl and he's giving her all this yeah it's very frustrating but that's just the lesson I learned that I should have and I did oh my gosh many times I put my foot down but it's
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Panel (mixed)just like wait you put your foot down how I we broke up like when we were even just going through our talking phages I said I'm not in I'm not doing anything with you until there's a title like you need to show me your worth and da da d
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Panel (mixed)da but I think the more we just grew as friends that's what I was clinging on to than just the idea of the relationship and I was I was mixing the two personally but eventually I just I think I gave up because I knew our connection
03:20:19
Brian Atlasof that we built on friends was so much stronger than any hope of a relationship to begin with sure uh really quick so going back to 50/50 shove hands who said 50/50 shove
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Brian Atlashands raise them high raise them high so we can see them keep them up boom boom boom boom is over here I guess okay
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Panel (mixed)uh who I I want to skip you initially we'll come back to you who should pay on the first date whoever ask you're you're too far into the mic whoever asks whoever asks yeah
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Panel (mixed)it's a good idea okay I'll come back to whoever asks what about you I'm with her on that one whoever asks whoever asks I agree whoever asks whoever asks I I would say whoever asks
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Panel (mixed)but yeah in a more traditional way I think it would probably be the man I think is what most would say who should pay yeah well here let me get everybody's answer
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Panel (mixed)who else is 50/50 I am who should pay on um I honestly wouldn't expect the man to pay I always bring enough money for myself so okay so
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Brian Atlasthe bill so whoever says whoever asks who should ask I think starting with
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Panel (mixed)you whoever's interested like like if like if I'm interested in the guy then I'll ask him how many times have you asked a man
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Panel (mixed)out well uh I've only had one real boyfriend so I never had okay so hold on uh well let me get everybody's answers yeah I agree with her
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Panel (mixed)um you guys are just going to be sheep and just no it's not being a sheep it's just because yeah whoever is interested you should have who who should ask you should have the confidence to have okay so who should
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Panel (mixed)ask traditionally yes it would be the man but I think that anyone can ask I've asked and I've paid so whoever's interested I've actually only ever asked guys on dates I've never
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Panel (mixed)personally been asked out on a date I've only ever asked guys stop the cap swear to God I don't you ever been on the dating app back like freshman year but I've never ever ever gone on dates with those guys every
03:22:32
Brian Atlassingle date every single date you've been on you asked the guy the last three years the only date I first dat I'm talking first date you can't count I've been dating a guy for 3 months and I asked him out on a date that does not count I've never had like flings
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Panel (mixed)relationships or hookups I've only ever dated or on and off with that guy for 3 years and I've asked I'm the one that pursued him so you made the first move yes I pursued him at the bar and that's what he said the one thing he's always loved about me was
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Brian Atlashe's never had a female that's went and pursued a man and that's what he uh of all the guys you've been on a date with did they ask or did you they ask how many dates have I haven't gone on like real dates but
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Panel (mixed)people will just like like okay hang cuz I I usually say like no but they've always asked me so you've been on I've never even gone on like a real date just
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Brian Atlashang out kick it whatever they've asked every single time and what about all the dates you haven't gone on or hangouts you haven't done but you've been
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Brian Atlasasked what about that how many how many okay so how many First Dates do you think you've been on when I say dates will include just casual kick it hangout
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Brian Atlaslike two two so in those two the guy asked yeah and then have you been asked by a guy to kick it but you said no yeah have you ever asked a guy to kick it and
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Panel (mixed)they said no no okay but you've never asked a guy no okay what about you I know in high school I definitely
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Panel (mixed)asked guys out I think more frequently now I definitely don't definitely don't no no of all the First Dates you've been
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Panel (mixed)on who asked was it the guy or you of all of them there were probably I don't know about two that I've been on that I've asked how many dates have you
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Panel (mixed)been on first dates quite a few how many I 10 20 30 40 50 if we're including just like kick it Hangouts I feel like it's just too many to count sure well I'm how many 20 plus
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Panel (mixed)30 plus 40 plus 50 plus yeah probably like 20 plus and you asked two no honestly I've probably asked more and just can't remember okay what about
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Sophia (UCSB)you I've asked a few okay how many First Dates have you been on how many first states have I
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Brian Atlasbeen on like more than 10 huh like more than 10 more than 10 mhm okay of all those who made who initiated it you or the guy usually the guys usually the
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Panel (mixed)guys what about you oh well you already answered well I've only had yeah I've only really had three first days I don't casually date anybody it's when I'm in a relationship ship with them and I mean my first one was high school boyfriend probably mutal well this whole thing on
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Brian Atlaslike whoever whoever um asks should pay none of you ask
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Brian Atlasreally you'll do it once twice whatever but I mean your answer might as well be men especially in your case right you said you've never asked a guy
03:25:42
Brian Atlasout nope yeah so but your answer was whoever asks should pay if I asked so what you're saying is of all the times you've
03:25:53
Brian Atlashung out did any of these Hangouts include the man paying for a meal or how is that you said you've never been on a date I'm just or you sit too
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Brian Atlasor do these Hangouts include food yeah but you don't consider that on a date do you do you meet at the food place and eat at the food place no get go get to go food and you eat it at his place no
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Panel (mixed)they just pick me up and we eat in the car oh you eat in the car like that's why I'm saying I've never been on a it's like more of like I can't put it in terms of like a dating stance because
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Panel (mixed)it's more like just hanging out with I guess distant friends that I haven't hung out with in a long time okay but in those cases like they always pay so 50/50
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Panel (mixed)then uh I can put it in this sense when I was with my boyfriend I would pay um like sometimes I would pay sometimes he would
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Brian Atlaspay right but how do you get into a relationship isn't there like an initial dating stage he he asked me yeah yeah
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Brian Atlasbut how can all of you who said like 50/50 seems overwhelmingly the case that you're looking to men to take initiative so how could it possibly be be 50/50
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Brian Atlasright cuz they're the ones asking it's not nothing but nothing is preventing you from equally contributing to a start of a relationship by oh that guy's attractive let me approach
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Brian Atlashim let me make the first move let me ask for his number let me plan the date let me try to set up the date let me pick the location well for me specifically it takes a lot for me to like someone so then if I do find them attractive and I if I do like them I
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Sophia (UCSB)will approach them that's me being interested and that's me asking them out on a first date so then I will pay but there hasn't been a lot of those kinds of instances it was more so a man who
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Brian Atlasfound who found me attractive and he was the one who was asking me out on the date okay what about going for the first kiss more often than not do you initiate
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Panel (mixed)the first kiss or does the guy starring with you I don't know I feel like that's like Mutual like you just look at each other and you're like okay like it's not it's rarely Mutual
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Brian Atlasbut okay I think so like I guess in my case but again I don't have that many so you're saying it's just mutually like you both at the exact same instance just like you you you you lock eyes and then
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Panel (mixed)you're like oh okay like you go it's kind of mutual the guy is going to like it's kind of mut yeah I feel like I'm so used to guys actually asking for like consent before
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Panel (mixed)they kiss me and they're like can I kiss you and I'm just like um yeah I've been sitting here leaning in giving you flirty eyes for the half hour like
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Panel (mixed)yeah okay but I mean like so it's the guy then um I mean sometimes it's the guy but like sometimes it's also just like Mutual where we like yeah both lean in but yeah usually I'll just ask him
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Panel (mixed)like well he'll just like ask for consent and I'm just like yeah okay yeah yeah like I've been sitting here waiting sometimes I just kind of so but so you already made the determination that you wanted to kiss the man so
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Panel (mixed)shouldn't you have done it yeah and I guess that's the point where like I could also ask not 50/50 okay what about you mine's been 50/50 you're 50/50
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Brian Atlasyou won't initiate but you'll go for the kiss I have initiated you'll initiate the kiss mhm you ask for permission or you just go for it of course okay what about you I've been to
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Panel (mixed)shade before yeah okay I mean if I'm interested and that person I'm not trying to play games or wait around or drop the hints okay of all the times
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Panel (mixed)you've kissed somebody who initiated the kiss the man the man the man the man the
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Brian Atlasman Macy how about you Brian the man the man yeah the man uh I want to say 99% of the time it's I've initiated it yeah I love that there's
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Brian Atlasmaybe been one time where the girl went for it may I think but otherwise uh what by the way welcome Andrew Wilson what is going on with your background sir holy I'm I can't see you guys oh oh you
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Brian Atlasgot to start virtual Camp sorry about that Andrew uh welcome welcome Andrew good to see you good to see you you too uh do you want to just give your yourself a quick intro yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The
03:30:20
Andrew WilsonCrucible it's a fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube to my knowledge I'm a political analyst a political satirist and I enjoy engaging in debates occasionally all right good to have you
03:30:30
Brian AtlasAndrew I'm going to finish up some of my pre-show notes here so uh let's see going back to Haley we were talking about uh why do men move on so move on
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Brian Atlasfaster we already talk talked about that you wanted to how to get that bad energy back without being scared or worried about what others think in my defense I was babysitting
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Panel (mixed)and the 12-year-old was like telling me kind of what to say a little bit I don't remember sexing that um yeah I struggle I mean she can contest to it but I struggle a lot now with my confidence and a lot of insecurities and trust issues so I just kind of want to have
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Panel (mixed)that like I want to be able to walk down the street and I have to care what every single person is thinking of me even though they're probably not looking at me or you know like oh what if I post this what's someone going to say I just want to do it for me live my life I'm
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Panel (mixed)young and single and I mean just focus on myself my career and just not care what others are thinking I just want to get that energy back all right and then I guess moving on you said that what is
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Brian Atlaseveryone's thoughts of going into a new relationship and sharing your past with that person should you be open about your past or is it not their business so is this like related to oh yeah body
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Panel (mixed)count essentially um I would say a little bit yeah I'm just curious as to cuz that was in my situation with my relationship he held my past over me constantly never forgave me for it even
03:31:50
Panel (mixed)though when I like made decisions I made them like pretty dumb and everything I just am curious as to when you get into new relationships is that something you're supposed to disclose like oh by the way X Y and Z I did five years ago
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Panel (mixed)or is that only when it gets like brought up in the conversation I'm just I've always heard one end be completely open and honest and lay it all out on the table day one or whatever and then I've also heard it's not their business keep it to yourself like if it gets
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Panel (mixed)brought up be truthful and be honest but you don't need to go spill the beans on your past it just it's your past keep it keep it there just curious on everyone else's viewpoint on that I would agree if
03:32:27
Panel (mixed)somebody asks you a direct question be honest um if it's topical and relevant um but if you're just spilling the beans yeah it's it can be offputting here's
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Brian Atlashow I'll frame it here's how I'm going to frame it to the panel is it okay for a woman to lie no to a hold on hold on is it okay for a woman to lie to a new
03:32:51
Brian Atlaspartner about her body count absolutely not no no no no no no no be honest no I think resounding NOS wait
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Brian AtlasAndrew one request um can you turn those LEDs off uh it's very I know you're patriotic Andrew I know the blue I know you love
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Andrew Wilsonthe French action I know you're a fan of the French Andrew is it possible I mean this is not white like all of the flags your country has always made so that's why you got to bring it there
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Andrew WilsonAndrew why you got to why you got to do that to me man yeah I'll turn them off turn them off you can uh you can you can take me off the screen for a second I'll turn
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Brian Atlasthem off thank you Andrew sorry sorry sorry sorry okay uh K kaani kaani keani you said
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Brian Atlasum one time I had my friend had my now ex-boyfriend on oh okay no hold on I'm skip I'm going to skip that one uh let's
03:33:56
Brian Atlassee how to know who oh you wanted to talk about who has more power in society men or women yeah I do who who do you why don't you start off who do you
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Panel (mixed)think honestly I think women have a lot of power towards a man but I I think the man should have the power over all
03:34:20
Brian Atlasbecause the man is the leader h in society or in a relationship or both I guess both actually both I mean for me
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Brian Atlaspersonally okay I think the man take there from her I think the man should have the power but in in society cuz you the question was who has more power in society men or
03:34:41
Brian Atlaswomen you think it's do you think it's women but men should MH was that an acknowledgement of my statement or yeah yeah yeah so you think women have more power in society but men
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Panel (mixed)should have more power I think it just depends because I think a woman has a lot of power because with a a man for example like if you think of a pastor
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Panel (mixed)and his wife no one sees like the struggles that's going on but the wife still helps him so I think women have a lot of power when it comes to
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Brian Atlaslike persuading men in ways to get what they want if that makes sense so like okay I see what you're saying uh going around the table agree disagree with what she thinks who has more power in society men
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Panel (mixed)or women um I feel men definitely have more power in society although I feel like it should be more equal more equal okay all right what do
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Panel (mixed)you think um I think men have more power in society but it's for sure like more women are starting to be appreciated now like like towards equal power at least
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Panel (mixed)yeah mhm I agree yeah I agree as well I think it's definitely still a bit male-dominated but you know women are kind of sliding
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Panel (mixed)in there I guess I know mhm yeah for now men still have a lot more power men have more power I agree I don't see how men have more
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Panel (mixed)power than women but I it's becoming more equal now to me I think well sort of I think it's pretty much equal equal okay I also agree on that you agree on
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Panel (mixed)what that it's like inching towards like more equal but I would say men would have more power initially okay I'm a bit unclear it's like are we saying men are in positions of power so their
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Panel (mixed)leadership roles I think men should be in leadership roles so I don't see an issue with it I think women are The Gatekeepers to life and they hold a lot of power um and have influence over
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Brian Atlasmen I don't know if that answered anything okay well I think uh well as an
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Brian Atlasegalitarian I think I don't think that men have more power yeah I think we have gyos Centric Society I think women have
03:37:17
Brian Atlasmore power than men and uh women have more rights than men too you got more rights more rights you seem to disagree you dis do you
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Brian Atlasdisagree on the rights thing how so do you disagree on the rights thing I do but no comment well so what rights does a woman have or excuse me what rights
03:37:41
Andrew Wilsondoes a man have that a woman that a woman does not no comment I mean come on you got to engage here you're just not going to engage the right the right to not
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Andrew Wilson[Laughter] comment is that is that is that the right the right to not com is that a right that women have that men don't have the right to not
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Sophia (UCSB)comment no but I'm saying I don't want to comment on this right now why why is that just no comment I just disagree but
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Andrew Wilsonno comment so not prepared to actually defend your position because well I just disagree with your disagreement and I disagree with you not commenting so I
03:38:22
Andrew Wilsondisagree with that okay but I still yeah yeah no but I still want you to so so since we're just making assertions about asserting things then I disagree with your disagreement and you don't want to
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Andrew Wilsonbut I want you to so I don't I don't I don't know where that leaves us if you disagree can you tell us why you disagree huh what's that
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Brian AtlasI just said it's just me not commenting oh well you did comment by saying you disagree but right I how just but okay so you disagree because
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Brian Atlasyou do think that there would be something that points to men having more rights to women and I'm simple simply asking you which
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Sophia (UCSB)ones no comment that's not how you have a conversation with bu let me think on this for a second but no comment for now
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Brian AtlasI I mean you want how long do you want I don't know but no comment for now you can't you need to think about it
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Sophia (UCSB)you you're able to disagree with it immediately but provide an example donated she doesn't want to explain her disagreement because she is a coward who
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Sophia (UCSB)cannot defend her own positions these bimples are pathetic and there is reason they shouldn't be in
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Brian Atlascharge um thank you Chris true sexist okay um cool I guess thank you Chris for that
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SPEAKER_10that was that was a good one thank you Chris do experienc and when a lady has body
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SPEAKER_10count nothing to do is vag but it's obvious the way the way they carry themselves and why they are approaching okay sorry I got to change
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Brian Atlasit back to English I'm sorry bro I'm am sorry well you've had about a minute there to uh meditate on it do you you want to take a crack at I don't think
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Sophia (UCSB)women have more rights than men cuz that's what you initially said correct that is what you said right mhm so what let me flip this question on to
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Sophia (UCSB)you then I disagree with that okay what kinds of women what kinds of rights do women have that men don't have well hold on but wait wait that's what you said though right that women have
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Sophia (UCSB)more rights than men and that's what you said so I disagree with that but hold on I'll answer your question if you answer mine first since I posed it to you first okay yeah I disagree I don't I think men
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Brian Atlasand women have the same amount of Rights I don't think that women have more rights than men no but initially initi right but initially you said that I if I recall I
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Brian Atlascould be slightly mistaken here you did seem to imply that there are rights that men possess that women don't when did I imply that you you stated that when yeah when you yeah that was your initial
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Panel (mixed)answer to the question was that you thought that men had more rights than women yeah he he I said men have more rights than women that's what I said verbatim Brian verbatim asked do women have more rights than men and you quickly said yes uh apologize but I
03:41:46
Brian Atlasdisagree with what you said women do not have more there's equal rights then yeah I think we have equal rights so I'll I'll answer your question
03:41:54
Brian Atlasthen uh where do I begin let's talk uh immediately upon birth so uh most boys most newborns in this country immediately upon birth have their
03:42:05
Brian Atlasgenitals mutilated uh they don't have a right to consent or not consent to this because they're obviously newborns and they can't make uh an enfor form Med decision on that so uh immediately
03:42:18
Brian Atlasthat's one way in which boys in this country are not protected they don't have a right to their own bodily autonomy uh and I'm sure you have arguments of your own when it comes to bodily autonomy that's one another
03:42:29
Brian Atlasbodily autonomy argument I have is that men are compelled so women I don't know if it's so much from
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Brian Atlasthe framing of a right as a lack of a Duty responsibility but I suppose I
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Nick (producer)could find LOL paladins donated $200 60% of women don't comment in the [Music] Ws thank you la paladins appreciate it
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Brian Atlasum so uh so women have the right to not be subject to forced military conscription they don't have to register for
03:43:07
Brian AtlasSelective Service if there was a draft they they they can't be drafted by law uh they don't have as a man if you don't register for the Selective Service there's certain uh negative
03:43:18
Brian Atlasrepercussions it's technically a felony you could be imprisoned is a $250,000 fine you're barred from certain federal programs you can't apply for certain federal jobs you can't get student loans