Brian KICKS OUT Brat?! 2 RAGE QUITS?! Toxic LA E-GIRLS Bankrupt Men (FlNDØM)?! | Dating Talk #195

Date: 2024-09-11

Duration: 8h 33m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKylie (DT195)>

PPenny (DT195)>

JJiren (DT195)>

EElina (DT195)>

OOxana (DT195)>

LLaura (DT195)>

SSazia (DT195)>

EElora (DT195)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Sazia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Elora(guest)

SPEAKER_04Jiren(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kylie/Penny/Gia(guest)

SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Oxana(guest)

SPEAKER_13Elina(guest)

SPEAKER_14Laura(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteKylie introduces herself as an 18yo findom creator who has earned ~$200K in 6 months.

QuoteJiren reveals she has been celibate for 4.5 years and is waiting until marriage. She is 24 and has been single for 7 years.

QuoteElina refuses to state her age on-stream, saying only "somewhere between 25 and 35."

OtherGia repeatedly disrupts the show and is asked to leave by Brian and Andrew at ~2:09. She refuses and argues; is threatened with police. Finally exits around 2:35.

OtherSelf-ratings round: Sazia rates herself face 10/body 10; acknowledges men would rate her 5-6. Oxana rates herself face 5 (makeup 6)/body 8. Laura rates body "infinity."

ControversyKylie reveals her ex-boyfriend cheated on her, stole $7,500 cash, and stole her motorcycle. He has her name tattooed on his neck. Panel notes irony: a findom who financially dominates men was herself victimized financially by her ex.

ControversyFindom-to-bankruptcy moral debate: panel argues findom preys on men with psychological vulnerabilities (addiction, submissive tendencies) and can drive clients to bankruptcy or ruin. Kylie defends that clients consent and choose freely.

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

All guests introduce themselves in order. Order: Kylie (18, AZ, findom/TikTok), Penny (18, AZ, findom), Gia (21, CA, ChatterBait/OF), Jiren (24, SF, Masters/celibate), Elina (model/actress, Moldova/LA, age refused), Andrew Wilson (40, The Crucible host), Oxana (46, Sacramento, matchmaker), Laura (37, FL, matchmaker/former model), Sazia (30, Kazakhstan/LA, QA + podcaster), Elora (36, influencer 400K subs).

Findom explained — how it works, income, clients

Kylie and Penny explain findom (financial domination): men pay women to be humiliated and controlled. Kylie earned ~$200K in 6 months; Penny ~$6-7K in 2 months. Clients range from professionals to lonely men. Panel debates ethics, whether it exploits mental illness, and whether findom women can find committed relationships. Andrew Wilson and Brian press on psychological effects on clients.

Narcissism and emotional abuse debate

Discussion of narcissism in relationships, emotional abuse patterns, and identifying manipulative behavior. Guests share personal experiences. Debate on whether findom attracts or creates dependent personalities.

Gia disruption and removal from show

Gia repeatedly interrupts and derails conversation. Brian asks her to stop; she continues. Brian and Andrew ask Gia to leave at ~2:09. She refuses and argues. Threatened with police call; finally exits around 2:35. Discussion follows about entitlement and inability to self-regulate.

Self-ratings round

Each guest rates their own face and body on a 1-10 scale. Notable ratings: Kylie face 9/body 8, Elina face 9/body 8, Oxana face 5 (makeup 6)/body 8, Laura face 8.5/body infinity, Sazia face 10/body 10 (self-acknowledged overestimate). Jiren declines. Discussion of objectivity vs. self-perception.

Dating marketplace and sexual market value (SMV)

Brian and Andrew discuss sexual market value, how women's and men's value changes with age, and how findom intersects with SMV (exploiting lonely/lower-status men). Matchmakers Oxana and Laura provide professional context on what clients seek.

Kylie TikTok review and ex-boyfriend story

Brian reviews Kylie's TikTok content on-stream, showing findom-related posts. Kylie reveals ex-boyfriend cheated on her, stole $7,500, and stole her motorcycle. Ex has her name tattooed on his neck. Older sister previously appeared on Whatever. Panel reacts to ex's behavior and the irony of a findom being victimized financially.

Findom Twitter/tweets review

Brian and panel review findom-related tweets and social media content from Kylie and others. Includes posts where findom creators mock their clients publicly. Panel reacts to content showing the psychological manipulation involved. Debate on whether public humiliation of paying clients crosses ethical lines.

Findom ethics debate — does it cause harm?

Deep ethical debate: is findom harmful to clients? Does it exploit mental illness (addiction, submissive tendencies)? Kylie and Penny argue clients choose freely. Brian and Andrew argue findom accelerates financial ruin. Matchmakers note they have seen findom victims in their professional work. Discussion of whether findom is different from other sex work.

Matchmaking industry and partner standards

Oxana and Laura discuss the professional matchmaking industry: how clients are vetted, what high-value men and women look for, and common deal-breakers. Laura discusses working with Millionaire Matchmaker / Patty Stanger. Both matchmakers share observations on how dating has changed with apps.

Patriarchy, age gaps, and dating economics

Discussion of traditional gender roles, age gap relationships, and the economics of modern dating. Andrew Wilson provides perspective from The Crucible framework. Matchmakers weigh in on what makes age gap relationships work or fail.

What do you bring to the table

Round-table: each guest articulates their value proposition in a relationship. Findom guests challenged on whether monetizing men is compatible with genuine partnership. Matchmakers discuss what balanced value exchange looks like.

Call to quit findom / closing discussion

Brian and Andrew urge Kylie and Penny to consider leaving findom. Argument: findom will damage ability to form genuine relationships and may attract wrong partner type. Kylie pushes back; Penny more receptive. Show closes with final thoughts from panel.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasget an answer on the better looking in 10 years time we did so wait it was uh I'm sorry I was gone I had to step away so apologize to the viewers I do have to

Brian Atlasrepeat um you're 30 correct you yeah I said 10 uh so will you be better looking in 10 years's time at 40 yes will you be better looking in 20 years time at 50

Brian Atlasyes will you be better looking in 30 years time at 60 yes will you be better looking in 40 years time at 70 yes 50 years time at

Andrew Wilson80 yes uh yo Duran thank you for the gift to 20 Subs better looking it's in 60 years time at 90 until I die would you

Andrew Wilsonbe better looking if tomorrow a meteorite hit next to you and splashed you with hot lava and it melted half of your face and they reconstructed

Andrew Wilsonas best they could but basically one of the eyes was constantly popped out of its socket and the entire cheek was melted off and you could see your teeth right through it and your tongue was hanging out of the side and you always

Andrew Wilsonspoke slurred from then on forever more would you be hotter then I think we have different um definition of beautiful so yeah I know would you be hotter then though wait wait wait let's actually

Brian Atlasexplore this answer wait hold on no no answer Andrew's question but then also Define beautiful um so I popping out will you be more

Andrew Wilsonattractive is that your question yeah well I mean like my question was yeah half your face is melted off your tongue's sticking out of the side of your teeth you're you just have a socket where your eye used to be

Saziaare you uh you're hotter then I will feel hor horrible and I will not think about how beautiful I look like I will have different thoughts if

Andrew Wilsonthis really happens so I but not at 97 not at 97 and 997 you have depends and like a little thing of milk next to you you're going to feel really hot at 97 when someone comes in and is changing

Brian Atlasyour depends you're going to feel super hot then or I will feel super hot myself yeah um okay and you're

Brian Atlas30 now were you better looking 10 years ago when you were 20 yeah is that your like I know you're kind of trolling or whatever you just

Brian Atlaswant to be kind of uh what what's the word for it Andrew uh like contrarian or yeah uh well I mean in this CA in this case so your beauty standards just based

Andrew Wilsonoff of how you feel right yes okay so you wake up on a Tuesday you feel like [ __ ] you're what what does your Bea like

Saziaon your worst day the day that you feel the worst what are you on that day in my worst days I don't look how I look like I more care about

Saziaum that days I feel more depressed I want to talk about can you take I don't want to think about anything mostly I just lay down

Andrew Wilsonand try to yeah but but like hot wise what do you what are you on your worst day the day where you feel the worst

Saziaabout yourself what are you then I don't feel beautiful if I feel awful myself yeah right so what would you rate yourself then when you feel like that

Andrew Wilsonzero what zero you rate yourself a zero yes so what we've established is that you have no standard for what is beautiful right all that your standard is is just internally how you feel and

Andrew Wilsonhow you feel is supposed to reflect so how does how you feel reflect the reality of what is true for beauty yeah

Saziahow I should go inside me to feel it just how I feel well then let's test and see if this is true Are there women on planet Earth who are prettier than you even

Andrew Wilsonone I don't compare myself with others I also already mentioned it oh you you don't you you don't have any beauty

Brian Atlasstandard for women at all no not for men either Andrew she actually does because earlier when I asked the question have

Brian Atlasyou ever seen a beautiful woman with a mid guy she answered in the affirmative that yes she has seen a beautiful woman with a mid guy which means she can make determinations as to physical

Andrew Wilsonattractiveness yeah value judgment so so apparently you can judge whether or not a woman is attractive and if a man is less attractive than her otherwise how could you ever see a woman who's more attractive than the man she's with

Saziaunless you're judging that one is more attractive than the other that's bizarre can you explain that to me when you asked that question I was thinking a lot

Saziaand I didn't like raise my head right away I was thinking and um this is what conclusion I meant

Saziarecently about beauty again I said I went through some um mental like it was hard after moving so I feel I I feel judged myself I was

Saziajudging myself because of my look and it didn't help to me so that's why I changed the strategy for myself so that's why I I'm rating myself for 10

Saziait's not personal to anyone it's only my opinion and this is how I think and and I see how you're trying to ask these questions but okay well let me ask you a different way then let me ask you a

Andrew Wilsondifferent question all together do you know what a beauty pageant is no where they where men determine how

Andrew Wilsonpretty a woman is first time hearing this okay um so let's assume for a second that you were on a stage and

Andrew Wilsonthere was 500 men and they had to rate your beauty against other beautiful women who are on the stage okay uh do you think that those men

Saziawould all give you a 10 we should see um I don't think so yeah okay you don't think so yeah what do you think they'd give

Andrew Wilsonyou I don't know if you had to

Saziaguess if I to guess five six maybe h why do you think they'd give you a five or a six I just come up with middle something middle because I'm sure that

Andrew Wilsonsomebody will like it somebody doesn't like it and so you think that men so you think men consider your looks to be average yeah

Andrew Wilsonokay I'm done with my inquiry there Brian why the difference H why the

Saziadifference what what you your own self as are so are all the men wrong other people can think about me about my look whatever they want to think are they wrong though no they're

Brian Atlasnot wrong everybody have all oh no they sure they can make judgments but collectively you said they would rate you a five are they wrong no they're not wrong so then you're a

Saziafive I just answered his question I don't think I am five I just I answered his question the average from 0 to 10 the middle will be five so this is wait

Saziacan you rate me I will or did she rate me already no what did she get no oh can you rate me I won't be offended go ahead I don't want to rate you I only can

Brian Atlasmyself go ahead no no I mean you don't have to um I would just be curious on that you want to give me a rating no I don't want I don't want to you play this

Brian Atlasgame with you okay I mean not really game but okay uh and then going to you now I know you're not a natural beauty but I think with the right clothes the right look you

Brian Atlascould be very striking Nick sorry okay uh you're 36 or will you be better looking in 10 years time uh you mean

Brian Atlas46 well you're 36 will you be better looking in 10 years time at 46 um not I I don't think so okay and were you

Elorayou're 36 uh were you better looking uh at 26 than you are now M I think uh now

EloraI feel better and look better okay uh and then uh 18 versus now

Eloraat 36 18 better looking at 18 I think uh my body was look like I was more fit okay yeah I oh

Brian Atlasokay all right um H do we pull up I mean not for her but maybe we could pull up the Instagram can we you're fine if we pull up your in

Brian Atlasyour Instagram and you have some pictures from like seven years ago s years I think from 2015 so it's not exactly 10 years but no hold on are you fine with if we pull these up yeah sure

Brian Atlasyou're fine with it okay all right uh so it's not exactly 10 years ago but she's 30s now so scroll down a little bit how about the the the teddy bear photo click

Brian Atlasclick the teddy bear photo birday that's November 29th 20155 so 9 years ago right wait would that be

Sazian about 9 years ago yeah it was when I first arrived to us okay huh no it's okay uh the other one back to 10 years which one the wedding wding

Saziathe very bottom my brother's wedding wait what that where is with flowers wedding I I mean you're I you're wearing sunglasses you're looking to the side

Brian Atlasnot not flowers midle oh okay sure I guess this one the second the second one I guess no no no no the second one yeah okay well eyes

Brian Atlasclosed side profile Okay click the fir is the first uh the first one even you don't click it yet is that you yeah it's me oh Okay click

Brian Atlasit this is 2014 so this is 10 years ago mhm years go Kazakhstan flag okay um it was my first time when I came to is so

Brian Atlasthis was you at 20 yeah okay all right X scroll up a bit let's see some more photos uh all right what about the one

Brian Atlaswhere she's in the black in the middle there in the middle of a street blocking traffic beautiful day one in New York okay a little hard to tell so pretty

Brian Atlashard to make appraisals here only SE eight years ago hot yeah uh so you're better looking now than you were there just want to get that from

Brian Atlasyou okay X out of it uh what about the one just next to it to the left the better looking now than there right

Brian Atlasnow I feel myself beautiful that time I didn't fail unfortunately okay well that concludes my uh inquiry as to this matter um thanks for interesting how that works

Brian Atlasum all right let's uh you know what uh what oh we have to do a couple things things here so uh going to Kylie you have a [ __ ] stamp let's talk about that

Brian Atlaslower caught her off sorry so justor I'm sorry I am sorry lower back tattoo yes okay

Brian Atlasum can you show it I'm just curious sure it's been a minute since I've I'll turn around

Brian Atlasum wait there uh excuse it's a bow it's a bow it's a bow what so what's the motivation there for uh what's the motivation there

Brian Atlasfor uh the uh the the the lower back tattoo excuse me it was just a Spur the moment honestly one random

Brian Atlasnight cool and I love bows that's that's cool good talk good talk all right um there's no

Brian Atlaslike deep meaning behind it sorry were you drunk no way she's 18 never mind that doesn't stop drunk all right uh let's see uh oh

Brian Atlasquickly let's do twitch Nick and then Discord guys I have an announcement when it comes to our Discord guys go to

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Brian Atlasprime sub yo Duren thank you for the gifted Subs by the way drop us a follow on the prime sub if you have one uh it's a quick free easy way to support the show every single month you just link

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Brian Atlasuh yeah guys discord.gg whatever guys uh we had a kickout it's actually been a while since we've had a kickout I do my best to not have to kick people off the show

Brian AtlasI try to give them multiple chances uh so if you can guys we're going to post the BTS of the it was it was

Brian Atlasvulgar and Despicable and I don't know what other words I I can use various descriptive words I don't even know we're going to post it in our BTS so

Brian Atlasdiscord.gg whatever mods if you can spam the the link in the chat uh for those who want to check it out discord.gg whatever it's going to be in the behind the scenes uh folder so join join up join up guys appreciate it okay uh we

Brian Atlasneed to get into uh Kylie we got to get we got Kylie and we got um uh Penny or how Penny yeah Penny we got we got some interesting

Brian Atlasthings we got to get into with you guys uh related to finum some other stuff uh so first I just want to pull up Kylie uh your Tik Tok can you pull that up can

Brian Atlasyou sort by let's do why don't we sort by popular oh it's right there on the right side okay uh is there music on the first

Brian Atlasone or is it like speaking music okay uh Nick just uh click it but no audio please

Brian Atlasokay when my ex cheated on me and the girl made these Tik toks in my

Brian Atlascar that's your car and this this is like uh two months ago yes a month and a half ago okay X

Brian Atlasout of it X out of it uh and that got 23.4 million views on T on Tik Tok that's that's a lot of views um how long were you dating that

Kylie/Penny/Giaguy that was my longest relation relationship so the 1.5 or 1.5 year guy yes and were you guys exclusive yes okay

Andrew Wilsonuh okay was that by chance a friend of yours that girl yes I did know her mhm is that is that how she ended up in your car making Tik toks because she was your

Kylie/Penny/Giafriend um no I was I was out of town and he had a DUI so his truck was impounded and he I I let him use my car to get to from

Andrew Wilsonwork and so that's what he was using my car for but interesting I had no idea she was there so so wait wait hang on let's back up though because I'm I'm really curious

Kylie/Penny/Giaabout this this was your friend right yes and I'm guessing that you were subscribed to her Tik Tok right no my other friends I wasn't like

Andrew Wilsoncrazy close with her but another yeah but I mean come on you guys stalk each other's Tik toks nonstop like that's all you guys do how is she making Tik toks in your car and you don't notice that

Andrew Wilsonjust wondering because I didn't follow her a mutual sent it to me oh so like yeah so people who watch both of your content one of them sent it over and was like Hey look at this this

Kylie/Penny/Giais your car is that how you found out that he was banging this chick yes and after we broke up he had posted pictures of some girl like bent over on my car and I had no idea who it

Unknownwas until someone sent me the Tik Tok He's a brave and a decent man he's a [Laughter]

Brian AtlasPioneer damn okay uh go back to the Tik Tok really quick uh pay Pig shopping spree can we

Brian Atlaslet's watch that one oh my God is it music playing or is it um no oh no there's what's that I turned the audio off so they shouldn't be able to come up

Brian Atlasno but are they talk here pause it pause it yeah we got no audio on this side I'm saying Nick okay play it please like the audio oh got

Kylie/Penny/Giayeah okay start from beginning please our is taking me in my bestie shopping today we canceled our tickets home because we want to stay in La for longer but we have no clothes left so

Kylie/Penny/Giaobviously our [ __ ] is going to buy some more clothes and we only have 5 minutes to top so pause the audio

Brian Atlasall right you can no keep keep going keep going all right this is uh the pay Pig taking you shopping you you guys are

Brian Atlasbuying a bunch of stuff yes no limit no limit on anything is just go get everything get whatever you want yeah is that that's it mm okay all right that's okay next

Brian Atlasone which one did you uh which one what's that another pay pick video friend Bella the one that Che did or your boyfriend she no I thought that you saying that was the friend that

Kylie/Penny/Giaokay never mind okay yeah pull it a uh I don't pig is buying us matching product purses

Brian Atlastoday we're at the mall right now pause it y or yeah okay buying you stuff yep cool damn 3,00

Brian Atlas3,000 [ __ ] is that him was that the guy yeah damn his hand got a cameo oh [ __ ] and he's carrying the [ __ ] bags too all right X out of it okay uh uh scroll

Brian Atlasdown a little bit just so I can see what these are uh can wait Nick can you make them bigger like zoom in one more let's just do three one

Brian Atlasmore wow so many okay scroll down scroll down uh when my best friend convinced me to break up with my boyfriend just to turn around and [ __ ] with him wait best friend can you don't have to click it

Andrew Wilsonwait hover over hover over best friend convinced me to break up with my well wait wait hang on hang on I thought you said that you weren't

Andrew Wilsonthat close to her that's about a different girl wait so you had another wait wait what so your boyfriend cheated another boyfriend of yours cheated on

Andrew Wilsonyou with another one one of your friends it's the same boy it's a different girl so how many of your friends did this guy

Kylie/Penny/Giaplow no I plow plow I don't know it's crazy how how many how many of your friends did he bang um well it seems

Andrew Wilsonlike two so far does it see well wait does it seem like two or it was was or did you just miss speak earlier and the person you're

Andrew Wilsonreferencing as your best friend was the girl making those Tik toks h no it's two different girls so two different girls well how many did he

Kylie/Penny/Giaactually B Just the Two I mean I don't have like video proof so I don't know I don't really care to know but I just know why did you say that she was

Kylie/Penny/Giascrewing around with him if you don't know because they were together and they were hanging out oneon-one and she's my friend oh but your best friend yeah she was

Brian AtlasH cool Good Times uh let's see pull it back up please we got uh guys stop making fun of me for dating

Brian Atlashim I was 16 and yikes I kind of maybe yeah uh What uh click on the one on the right this

Brian Atlasone for everyone wondering this is the you can just play it no music wondering this is the mid WI boy shorty wants to fight over lizard boy wait is that who's

Unknownthat on the left is that oh my God wait is that one of your pay pigs or no it's him that's my wait

Kylie/Penny/Giawhat what I tried going for personality clearly clearly what wait was this the

Unknownexboyfriend oh my God [Laughter]

Unknown[Applause] lizard boy think hard is is hang on is that the ex-boyfriend yes yes

Unknown[Music] [Applause]

Brian Atlasyes okay I get it can we can we pull it up one more time you're so call him M uh just play just play it play it wait start one more time just play

Brian Atlasfrom the beginning don't scare or what whatever is that you on the left too or is that some other person okay all right all right this is the mid white boy

Andrew Wilsonshorty damn what a [ __ ] Legend he must have like this guy has god tier rist uh I just want to make sure here Kylie

Andrew Wilsonthat I get this uh that I get this straight this dude banged you and two of your friends including your best friend is that right

Andrew Wilsonanymore is that is that correct yes yes what's that can you speak Qui in the mic yes oh okay I just wanted to make sure we were

Unknownclear let's just move on [Music]

Brian Atlasit's a hilarious video run b um okay next Tik

Andrew WilsonTok would it be safe to say that um that you got domed in this relationship

Andrew Wilsonno no I don't know I mean I don't know I mean it sounds like you know he's uh pork in the whole circle right including you I mean it sounds like uh like he was

Kylie/Penny/Giakind of kind of running the the Gambit on you girls wasn't he um that was after we broke up like I wait uh I from what

Brian Atlasage to what age did you date him 16 to 18 18 and then uh so just curious um what

Kylie/Penny/Giauh what did you uh see in them um when I was 16 I was like going through some stuff and I

Kylie/Penny/Giadidn't have anywhere to stay so we were roommates at first wait you were homeless for a little bit so you were attracted to him because of he had he had place

Brian Atlaswe were roommates at first like just roommates and then um something led to another were you guys friends before yes we had work together work together and then so how did you approach him about the housing

Kylie/Penny/Giasituation like hey I'm homeless don't let me die [ __ ] Seattle sucks I can I live with you I walked up to him and asked if I could move in did you pay him

Brian Atlasrent I did oh okay oh man this guy is uh keeps the pimp pan strong here okay uh by the way uh were you dating him while

Kylie/Penny/Giayou you've been doing like the findom stuff or did that start after um yes I was but my account really took off after me and him broke up after right did uh

Brian Atlaswas he getting a cut on any of this no no cut okay I mean

Andrew Wilsongentlemen There's Hope for you yeah out there I mean all you need to do is pick up a homeless chick off the street and start banging

Andrew Wilsonher friends it's simple right it's I it's easy it's like one two done hey baby you got a place to live no I got a place you can live bring your friends

Brian Atlascan we get this guy on the show oh honestly that would be amazing I I want to learn from this guy I want to learn his Secrets

Brian Atlasbro he must have crazy this gu is killing it out there or something Ser he's killing it dude I think he just got lucky not anymore not anymore

Kylie/Penny/Gianope you seen his new girl he robbed me and he's still struggling to pay his bills how much oh yeah he robbed you for how much

Kylie/Penny/Giaum technically like exactly 7500 he also stole my motorcycle and robbed some stuff from my apartment how did he how did he rob you

Kylie/Penny/Gia7500 what was that how did he rob you of 7500 so when we were together he added my card to his Apple wallet and I had told

Kylie/Penny/Giahim to take it off I thought he did and I didn't notice until like a month later when I was looking at my bank and I saw that there was like 20000 leaving my account every single day for about a

Kylie/Penny/Giamonth straight and when I looked at the date it was like literally right when we and him completely cut contact is this your femdom money yes yes so wait a

Andrew Wilsonsecond wait a second so to get this right all of your guys who came in to give you all that money were actually giving it to your boyfriend so he got

Andrew Wilsonall of the rewards of your F femdom he got $7,500 worth of your femdom money then on top of that bang two of your

Andrew Wilsonfriends and stole your motorcycle do I have that correct sure okay his life is going going

Unknown[Laughter] [Applause]

Andrew Wilsondown what if you're I mean you really you earned that money and you just you know what a what a dick this guy it's okay I got it back my bank reimbursed me

Andrew WilsonI need to learn from this guy no no he got lucky he got lucky wait so three times he got lucky three times yes wait who it's quite a

Andrew Wilsoncoincidence and his penis was slipping into all these women just uh just by pure luck it was sheer luck he was just walking down the street lightning struck

Andrew Wilsonand Bam his penis went into multiple women's vaginas crazy pure luck it is does he have

Kylie/Penny/GiaRiz okay let me just say something okay go ahead number one if I am like who I am now and I had met him I would never

Brian Atlasdate him I was just were you down bad I was I was I was homeless so yeah I was a little down bad um so he just he just out but I'm a little confused because

Brian Atlasyou you moved in with him but you weren't dating so you weren't homeless because you were living with him it was before I met him wait you dated him before you met him no what was before

Brian Atlasyou met him was homeless before I met him right but you said it started out just like a housemate situation so you didn't it wasn't like well I'm going to start dating him and like use him for

Brian Atlashis house or whatever like you moved in platonic you were paying him rent and you're living with him so when when you already established your security when it comes to not being homeless so I

Brian Atlasdon't think we can use you being homeless as justification for wanting to date him or was he like giving you a really good deal on rent trying to be charitable here I just know that me now I would never

Kylie/Penny/Giadate him what did the other two girls see in him do you think um cuz that I mean is it big Jade yeah huge I mean like here like tell me when to stop I

Kylie/Penny/Giawould say tell me when to stop the size of this microphone maybe I don't know that's I don't know I don't remember that's a spicy

Kylie/Penny/Giameatball what I was going to say was all the girls yeah all the girls that he's getting with after me like Jaden the one that was in

Kylie/Penny/Giamy car yeah anyone literally anyone any man ever could have sex with her anyone Nick can you pull up the uh specs on a

Kylie/Penny/Giasure sm7b please such slander such slander for wait sorry repeat it again sorry IED I said anyone could have sex with her and that goes for the other girl anyone can have sex with those

Andrew Wilsonother girls yes oh well there's some men in the chat who are asking for the numbers joking she was the mouth That Got Away I

Brian Atlasdon't think any of them are a prize like they're all easy anyone could have them yeah it's almost like trading sex for a room right there like simple Nick you got the no can you pull up the actual

Brian Atlasspecs like the spec sheet no it's it's there pull go back and well one sec one sec all you simps witing for these women and this is the dude they all fight for stop sing be the guy that steals their

Brian Atlasmoney be the guy they fight over be the guy that steals their pay W paladins good to see you in the chat man thank you for the TTS man uh Nick can you pull up the uh uh show it's the second link

Brian Atlasthere scroll down let's just I want to see the the blueprint yeah pull it up spec sheet uh scroll

Brian Atlasup all right uh scroll down make it make the specifications bigger please specifications uh wait does it show the

Brian Atlasdimensions where's the dimensions it's right there where I don't see it it does scroll down Nick what uh that's not scroll up Scroll up

Oxana58 5.8 wait scroll up Scroll up where is it I don't see it wait where down right there where um no that's not no that's

Oxananot it that's not it okay go back to the Google thing what it's fine whatever there is weit oh yeah Okay click on the first

Brian Atlaslink just click on the first link maybe that don't it's not show is it this just click it just click it click it I want to click it scroll down scroll down you sure it's not going make it bigger make

Brian Atlasit bigger I'm really curious bigger bigger bigger bigger bigger okay scroll down scroll down oh there we hit it Nick make it

Brian Atlasbigger please 7 uh wait no too big I knew okay so wow 7.5 in but let's look at the girth of the sure

Brian Atlassm7b uh the girth is 3775 in the um okay this guy's

Andrew Wilsonpacking this guy's packing here it was it was a rough estimate yeah I mean I think a a 4x7 is like [ __ ] isn't I I I think like porn stars wish they could

Kylie/Penny/Giahave that right is pen size bro this guy okay all right he's a little obsessed oh my

Brian AtlasGod anyways uh next Tik Tok please that was good it was good we learned a lot we learned a lot about Kylie you want to go

Brian Atlasback to here yeah so uh scroll down a bit uh while uh just Mouse over please

Brian Atlaswild you ate her up without an effort the way I've never once been wait oh okay I don't know next uh just Mouse over that next one pay Pig taking me

Kylie/Penny/Giaokay you guys are going shop shopping yep okay is that him the guy standing with all the bags yes can see he kissed

Kylie/Penny/Giamy yep right oh my go oh no oh no does he do it again ping your feet oh oh that's him with the money yes that is oh wait let's just see it again

Brian Atlasuntil the oh no oh my God jeez I can't who is kissing the l oh

Brian Atlasmy god oh hold on get the [ __ ] out of here bro send in the [ __ ] Rockets boys holy

Brian Atlas[ __ ] there's actually people that in the world I disavow all right pull up the Tik Tok again all right uh this is your sign to get belly

Brian Atlasbutton P okay that no no offense that's great but uh the next Mouse scroll nope yep uh reason why I love pay pigs and stocks I'm only 18 years old and made six figures in two months on track to

Brian Atlasbuying a house this year go on vacation every month and financially free investing all my money to set me up for Life uh what's the next one is that just you doing a Tik Tok dance or something

Brian Atlasyeah all right that's cool uh the finger chws okay don't care that scroll down uh chasing the bag while he's chasing ho is this about your ex or yes it's about any

Kylie/Penny/Giaman any man okay uh next one what's this is it do you know what this one it's just me talking about anything interesting telling people stop sending that girl

Brian Atlasdeath threats oh okay all right uh that that one finum won't get you far in life

Brian Atlasis this who's the who's house is that t huh T Taylor lner

Brian Atlasno of his name just Taylor that's what's that stupid vampire movie what's that Twilight Twilight this is Twilight money here

Elorayeah yeah Taylor lner's house okay uh and fom is not paying for you for that right and for this podcast wait what

Elorabecause you're advertising them I mean I see the reals I mean Tik Tok video you advertise them yeah are you talking to me I'm really no no I'm talking with

Eloraher she's advertising wait what you're are you saying she's advertising the platform where she's making money but it's not the platform what findom is not a

Eloraplatform fom is it's not platform like only fans or Instagram or here pull it back up Nick uh simp funded Hall let's go over that

Brian Atlasone there's no music oh you guys are just talking yeah is it good are you just are you essentially just saying here's here's the stuff I got

Brian Atlasblah blah blah next one Nick scroll down is there text or just thirst okay scroll down weed that oh okay next is this just thirst trap yeah

Brian Atlasokay sometimes you just got to everything happens for a reason and move on scroll down okay last three here probably no one could ever convince me to leave okay no next Oh that's oh okay

Brian Atlasnext okay hold on let next three hold on let me just see these next scroll down okay talking cool when we hung out with another girl behind my back so I said i' forgive him if he got my name

Brian Atlastatted but wait oh yes he had my tatted on his neck maybe she kind of gets a w here uh he tatted your name on Kylie yes

Kylie/Penny/Giacan you change that to like cavus or something he tried to put some like disgusting little like I don't know if it's a tree growing but it's just like there's this line that goes right past my name but you can still read it do you

Andrew Wilsonhave any tattoos of him on you no I do not okay not stupid uh damn that's uh he he took an L there yeah wait did you like dump him like the day after he

Kylie/Penny/Giasnatched defeat Brian from the jaws of Victory this guy was doing so good but then no he's still is broke after stealing from from her too he didn't do

Andrew Wilsonanything good with the money well I mean but this wasn't very long ago right like it t it takes a while it takes a while for somebody to get back on their feet after you know banging a homeless ji and all of her friends it takes a little bit

Brian Atlastakes a little while right he this guy he's got you know he's got he's got some time all right let's see the rest let's look at the rest of the some of the more more of the Tik toks let's see what we

Brian Atlasgot all right uh by the way I think we should put on can you put on do tab yeah uh I think yeah we should it's it's not a big deal

Brian Atlasbut uh okay three more and then we'll look at most Reon and then we'll move on S pa okay next car next that's your car yes that's cool pay Pig bought me more Gucci okay all right so you got receipts

Brian Atlaslike some girls will claim oh I got all these like to try to get more but I feel like it's pretty legit with you like you you're posting the receipts scroll up Nick all the way to the top please it's

Brian Atlashard to believe but it's real uh I believe it I believe it uh although sometimes people exaggerate but uh scroll down a little bit latest please I just want to see the three latest if

Brian Atlasthere's no no no no no no no no no no no up up up up up latest popular yeah scroll down oh these are pinned okay uh scroll

Brian Atlasdown wait scroll back up the pinned ones okay we saw that that one scroll down less than 1% uh the first one please less than 1%

Lauraof 18-year-olds in America are making a six figure salary well it's not you're not making a salary you might be making six figures but it's okay I forgive you Kylie did you set up a business like

Kylie/Penny/Giawhat are you telling the government your profession is so curious do you pay taxes well I started I started it this year so not yet but I file for just

Brian Atlasself-employment selfy like how Tik tokers pay their taxes the boy I met in my lowest TR to come back he came back the the guy was that the guy he's come back Nick you can hover

Andrew Wilsonyes all right scroll down we'll just we'll probably just do these three uh P car okay you you like you ain't gonna like when you meet the ultimate femdom

Brian Atlascalled the IRS a little bit yeah exactly it takes 40% of your femdom money you ain't going to like up a little bit please can you make a smaller make a

Brian Atlassmaller right corner I can't right uh okay right corner is fine okay uh pale and well met we'll come back to it oh you law paladins you little abuser

Brian Atlasyou okay it's not an L at all now he has a neck tattoo uh you guys don't understand women at all having a different chick's name tatted means the next girl can fix him and relationship material I don't know if that's like a

Brian Atlasgoing to be a w with the ladies if you have another girl's name never dat a man I don't think that's going to be I don't think that's a W for men or women um pull it back up thank you law paladins

Brian Atlasthough um abusing law paladins you are abusing my friend uh let's see uh I'm just joking La palins uh there's no way men send you thousands without wanting

Brian Atlassomething in return are you talking in this one it's a sound or is it video okay and then you're just showing here's the receipts here's all this uh Gucci that I got scroll down nick uh hover

Brian Atlasover scroll down go ahead okay first one pay Pig bought me more is that the pay Pig there oh no that's oh okay oh it's just oh I see you're

Kylie/Penny/Giahiding the okay all right uh next one over what's this is this you know what this is talking about nothing no one cares now I really want to click it let's hear what she has to say Okay

Kylie/Penny/Giaclick it play it Tik Tok about how my ego goes up whenever people ask me if I have lip filler and then the comments on that video were just like you have Li fill do you have lip filler though I do

Brian Atlasnot okay and then scroll down a little bit okay I think we've we've got a good idea I just wanted to do a little Tik Tock review here we the Tik Tock review

Brian Atlassegment uh that's that's interesting we have some tweets too that are interesting that we should pull up I think uh I don't know

Brian Atlasabout all that uh get to address it so we'll do that um but uh hold on one sec Nick there's actually one specific one Nick

Brian Atlasthat I wanted to pull up but um I'm trying to see if I can 18 years old hold on Nick I'm gonna send it I'm going to send it really this is the

Unknownfirst one we're going to do then we'll get through the ones you already have okay Nick okay there's one that we also pulled up after yeah that's

Brian Atlasfine uh can you get that pulled up haale and well met oh wait did I wait did I read these two

Brian Atlasoh did I read this one you read that one oh okay damn L palins you're guys TT s La palins you're abusing bro you didn't read this one I didn't no all you SS wi nting for these women and this is the

Brian Atlasdude they all five for stop sing be the guy that steals their money wait yeah you did did be the guy that steals their P love paladins I abusing my friend thank you thank you though thank you for

Brian Atlasthe message appreciate it uh Nick you got it scroll it up nice and uh y you know appropriate

Brian Atlassize on my way to a paid podcast to talk to incels for a few hours um so actually I should have had you read it here put in your own in your own words go

Kylie/Penny/Giaahead oh just read it you want me to repeat it yeah I'll have you read them because we're going to pull up the tweets go ahead on my way to a paid podcast to talk to incels for a few

Brian Atlashours LOL L um incel uh how do you define in

Kylie/Penny/GiaC A man that thinks he is above women or talks down on [Music] women I

Kylie/Penny/Giathink you bring a lot of girls on here and you kind of corner them and ask them questions that you know will make them sound stupid and you just circle back

TTS Readerand forth on that wait that pale and well met LOL paladins donated $200 and2 she said he has it mostly covered it's not abuse to use the system as created

TTS Readerto your benefit which is what her ex does now he has a story to show pre-election of other

Brian Atlaswomen wait isn't an Insel a celibate guy by choice the definition so so I'm I'm I'm happy to

Brian Atlasget into like the criticisms of the show or whatever but first like what so looking at the actual word inel what does that mean what does it stand for I guess it stands for celibate I had

Brian Atlasno idea well it stands for involuntarily celibate so just I want to be kind of clear here with the accusation uh are you because I know

Brian Atlassome basically incel is just a word that's used as basically like sort of a ad homin in attack like oh this person is uh you're not not literally trying to say that this person is involuntarily

Brian Atlascelibate but you're saying oh this person's like essentially a piece of [ __ ] is that the way you're using the word I'm just

Kylie/Penny/Giacurious no I was just saying it in the sense that you guys kind of just degrade a lot of women on here well would I mean maybe I'm being pedantic here but like

Brian Atlasyou could call us [ __ ] or jerks or misogynists instead of incel right cuz incel has a specific meaning so I I'm trying to determine how I want to tackle

Brian Atlasthe U the argument here I don't I kind of just [ __ ] post on Twitter okay cuz I I I could actually tackle it like head on the actual definition of

Brian Atlasthe word incel but I don't think that's the sense of how you you're using it so repeat again how are you using it I just said I think you degrade a lot of women on here so okay how do I

Kylie/Penny/Giadegrade women consider you an incel um wait so sorry I degrade a lot of women on here so you consider me an incel okay I guess I got my definition of incel wrong if it means invol I'll

Brian Atlaseven grant that a lot of people use that word as sort of like just a sort of blanket sort of just attack in the same way people will say uh this person's racist or a bigot when it's there's actually no evidence for these things

Brian Atlasbeing true people just throw out like a kind of buzzword and attempt to like uh just attack somebody um so how's the way you're using it I just said it like but so what are we

Kylie/Penny/Giawhat am I or what is Andrew doing and is it directed towards Andrew or just me or both well I just mean you guys hate sex work but you bring on all these only fans girls no one here but in other

Brian Atlasshows Nick can you pull up the stats um you brought on a bunch of only fans girls yeah we've had we've had on a good amount of only fans girls uh Nick's about to pull up some statistics because this is a common criticism we actually I

Brian AtlasI had someone painstakingly go through all the episodes uh so that we can actually uh basically debunk this accusation to some degree uh So 20% of the guests we've had

Brian Atlason the show and we've had on over a thousand guests uh only 20% are involved in sex work so I think it's 17% 177% do only

Brian Atlasfans and then the other 3% are either like strippers or do um trap traditional porn or even fullon escorting prostitution um I'm sorry do you

Brian Atlasremember where you were I have no idea it might be in the I can't really it's try to find it in the Dropbox folder um not sure it might be in the downloads folder you might have to scroll down a

Brian Atlaslittle bit but so uh knowing that only if you just take my claim at face value knowing that only 20% of the guests that we have on the show are involved in only fans um does

Kylie/Penny/Giathis change your position at all or still I mean you still choose to invite them on here and mhm whether you act like you hate sex work your do I

Brian Atlasyes okay what evidence do you have of that I mean you've shame women for having high body counts in term well you could have a high body hold on you could

Brian Atlashave a high body count not be a sex worker do you or do you have anything against sex workers would you date one H well I mean couldn't you on the dating

Brian Atlasfront couldn't you not want to date a woman who does sex work but also not

Brian Atlashate sex workers yes okay uh I I don't think I I hate sex workers I think uh and I try to treat people sometimes I

Brian Atlasjoke around but I think I try to treat people as respectfully as I can uh but are you against it am I against sex work yes well there's a couple layers here uh

Brian Atlasif you were to ask me is sex work in totality bad for society I would have to say yes I'm I'm almost wondering though if you would agree with me on that like

Brian Atlaslooking at it bird's eye view yourself like like for example alcohol is bad for society I think yes it's not illegal

Brian Atlasthough um Andrew might disagree I don't know if Andrew's gonna want to debate debate me on the Alcohol thing but um uh so I don't uh I do think in totality sex

Brian Atlaswork is probably bad for society it's bad for the women who do it it's bad for the people who consume it uh there's obviously degree varying degrees of sex work but uh I don't hate

Brian Atlasthe women who do sex work unless they are kind of obnoxious or um oh you might have pulled it up in the wrong one uh I don't hate women who do sex work unless

Brian Atlasthey're kind of obnoxious or they're uh defrauding men in some sort of way but yeah what have you heard me say that you disagree

Kylie/Penny/Giawith personally I mean I I tried watching one of the episodes and like I remember things but I at this very

Brian Atlasmoment can't remember anything mhm okay um so I have said that I would not date uh a woman who's done uh boy girl content for example that would

Brian Atlasdisqualify her that well that used to be my prior position now I'm actually leaning a bit more towards uh any kind of sex work I would not uh date a woman who

Brian Atlasdoes any kind of sex work my prior position was well so long as and this is an old position of mine uh so long as she hasn't um uh done boy girl

Brian Atlascontent you know she does like solo content or something I was like it's not so bad but then I I thought about more

Brian Atlasand I I I'll say this I have not dated a woman who does only fans or stript or any kind of sex work thus far far MH

Brian Atlasum there are plenty of women out there who are attractive who have pleasant personalities who aren't involved in sex work I so so yeah

Brian AtlasI pretty confident pretty confident here can say that I would not date a woman who does sex work okay but uh

Kylie/Penny/Giayeah yeah is that wrong though am I wrong for that um no CU I wouldn't date a guy that is a porn star so oh well

Andrew Wilsonokay why it's fair cuz you hate cuz you hate men right do you hate men no not all men most

Andrew Wilsonmen yeah Kylie all right uh okay um so so just to kind of get this right just want

Andrew Wilsonto make sure we got this right Brian hates women cuz he won't date sex workers right say that and you you hate men because you won't date corn stars is

Andrew Wilsonthat is that correct or maybe just neither of you hate men and neither of you hate women based on your dating

Andrew Wilsonpreferences well yeah I didn't say he hated women you literally did say that yeah you said it's you said you said he's an incel you're going on a show with a bunch of incels you said

Andrew Wilsonand uh you said that you categorize incel as somebody who hates and and uh is mean to the women right okay sure I like don't take anything on my Twitter seriously I take

Andrew Wilsonfive seconds to post and I don't even reread it I'm not taking I'm not taking it seriously I'm just I'm that's why I'm asking you right I'm just straight up asking you is does incel to if Insel to

Andrew Wilsonis just a derogatory word and you say well it seems like you bring on uh sex workers so that you can socially shame them or be mean to them or point out how dumb they are or whatever it is whatever the criticism is and so

Andrew Wilsontherefore you hate women I don't really see why that's any different than than what you're doing exactly isn't it isn't it the same thing if you have these kind of preferences against

Brian Atlasmen yeah sure wait don't you literally degrade men for money yes consensually don't the women come on my show

Brian Atlasconsensually yeah yeah now don't I I mean given the admissions that you've made on the show and some of the videos we've

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