$20,000,000 MINIMUM To Date HER?! ACCUSED OF MlSOGYNY?! Brian DEBATES Feminist! | Dating Talk #262
Date: 2025-09-29
Duration: 9h 26m
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Donations/TTS(audience)
SPEAKER_03Bina(guest)
SPEAKER_05Marca(guest)
SPEAKER_06Iris(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Stephanie(guest)
SPEAKER_10Kelsey Risk(guest)
SPEAKER_12Emily(guest)
SPEAKER_13Felicity(audience)
SPEAKER_14Cena(guest)
Key Moments
00:03:30
IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation, education, location
00:14:40
RelationshipRelationship status round. Bina broke up 3 days ago (5th time). Emily engaged 8 years.
00:17:00
Key MomentBina explains her ex was a nepo baby whose father is a famous actor
00:31:40
Key MomentKelsey shares devastating divorce story - husband left saying 'everyone else is living my life for me'
“Met my ex-husband in 2017, married in 2018, and he decided to walk away in 21.”
00:39:40
ControversyEmily criticizes show for rage bait, launches central feminism debate
01:02:00
ControversyCena says she would side with China over Canada/US in hypothetical invasion
01:26:30
ControversyBina claims majority of men are weirdos and creeps
“The majority of men are weirdos, creeps.”
01:51:00
ControversyBina and Marca demand minimum $10-20M yearly husband income
“The minimum is at least like 10 to 20 million.”
01:58:20
Key MomentBina admits to 10 sugar daddies paying $10K/month each
02:17:00
Key MomentBrian proposes $1M bet that Bina/Marca won't make $10M/year in 10 years
02:28:00
QuoteKelsey gives modest $50-60K minimum: 'I understand compounding interest'
03:55:00
ControversyBina claims 50% of men would rape if given the opportunity, walks back to 5-10%
04:59:00
Key MomentBrian rates most of the panel as 'average at best'
06:01:40
Key MomentKelsey delivers powerful Christian message about self-worth referencing Psalms 139
07:51:40
OtherMarca tells harrowing story of being pistol-whipped and carjacked
08:25:50
Key MomentKelsey's heartwarming story of ex asking parents to hold her hand at drive-in theater
“He leans over to my parents and he asked them, 'Can I hold your daughter's hand?'”
09:25:00
OtherShow wrap-up. Brian promises next show October 5th.
Topics Discussed
00:03:30
Guest Introductions
All guests introduce themselves. Notable: Emily the funeral director/embalmer, Kelsey's 3-generation chocolate business.
00:14:40
Relationship Status Round
Bina broke up 3 days ago (5th time). Emily engaged 8 years (16-year age gap). Kelsey divorced after husband left in 2021.
00:31:40
Kelsey's Divorce Story
Ex-husband left saying 'everyone else is living my life for me.' Found in Florida with married 22yo. Told her they were 'never really married.'
00:39:40
Emily vs Brian: Feminism Debate
Emily criticizes show for rage bait. Massive debate on feminism, military draft, voting rights, selective service, hypothetical China invasion.
01:23:20
Bina: Majority of Men Are Creeps
Bina claims majority of men are creeps. Claims 50% would rape if given opportunity (walks back to 5-10%). Brian compares generalization to racism.
01:50:00
Minimum Income Requirements
Bina/Marca: $10-20M. Iris: $100K. Cena: $400K. Stephanie: $1M. Kelsey: $50-60K. Felicity: $150K. Brian proposes $1M bet against Bina/Marca.
01:58:20
Sugar Daddy Romance Scams
Bina admits to 10 sugar daddies paying $10K/month each. Calls it 'finessing' - selling fantasy of interest. Brian calls it a romance scam.
03:51:40
Man vs Bear Debate
Bina picks bear (claims 50% of men would rape). Brian argues picking bear is sexist using race analogy.
04:40:00
Looks Self-Ratings
Bina 8.5, Emily refuses, Marca 8.5, Iris 10, Cena 6, Stephanie 10, Kelsey 5, Felicity 6. Brian says most are 'average at best.'
07:10:00
Body Count Discussion
Marca: ~13. Cena: 3. Stephanie: 3. Kelsey: 1 (ex-husband only). Felicity: 2. Bina refuses (claims monthly reborn virgin).
07:51:40
Marca's Carjacking Story
Marca was pistol-whipped and carjacked in San Fernando Valley. Ex-boyfriend's secret tracker in her car helped police recover it.
08:14:00
Iris Names Abusive Ex (John Moss)
Iris publicly names ex as streamer John Moss (7M TikTok). Gave up modeling to be housewife, used for domestic servitude.
08:28:20
Emily: Catholicism and Abortion
Emily is Catholic but pro-choice. References 10yo Ohio girl who came to Indiana for abortion. 'Cafeteria Catholic' concept.
08:41:40
Facts vs Feelings / Immigration
Emily argues feelings trump facts (funeral director experience). Brian pivots to immigration, Mexico's Article 33, deportation.
09:23:20
Show Wrap-Up
Brian summarizes traditional nuclear family position. Next show October 5th. Asks Cena to stop doing OnlyFans.
Transcript
Page 9 of 10
07:45:33
Brian Atlascompletely destroy women in sports. Would you do you acknowledge that? >> Okay, here. Let's do this. Soccer. >> You put the elite men versus the elite women. Who wins?
07:45:46
Emily>> I don't know enough about soccer. How about football? Which in that case I'd say men would. So >> why why would they win in football but not in soccer? >> Well, I don't know exactly. >> You don't know about soccer. You don't know about soccer. >> Just know it's kicking a ball. But I'm
07:45:59
Brian Atlassure there's more to it than that. >> Kicking a ball. You just your gut instinct if you just >> I feel like soccer doesn't use as much upper body strength. It uses more lower body. All you're well I mean
07:46:10
Brian Atlas>> you you might you might say like okay there's core and like does having strong upper body help with running or whatever >> but soccer is a lower body sport lower
07:46:21
Brian Atlasbody coordination? Um all these sorts of it's mostly lower body. >> I think a lot more women have a lot more strength in the lower body than the upper body. >> Oh women
07:46:32
Brian Atlaswell hold on that would be true about men too. Everybody has more strength in their lower body than in their upper body absent like injury or something. >> That's why leg day is always easier than
07:46:44
Brian Atlasarm day. >> Like like naturally >> almost anybody can squat more than they can bicep curl or that they can push. >> Yeah.
07:46:55
Brian Atlas>> Like just naturally. >> So I'm a bit Are you saying women have more lower body strength than men? Sometimes. [Applause] >> Yes, there are some women.
07:47:08
Brian Atlas>> Next question. >> Yeah. Next question. >> You realize it's really bad faith to do this thing >> where you say sometime >> like I don't know
07:47:18
Brian Atlas>> very bad. >> Sometime there's more. You know what? How about this? Are women more feminine than men? >> Sometimes.
07:47:29
Brian Atlas>> It's my stick to It would be but it would be like well hold on no sometimes there's men some men who are more feminine than than some women. That
07:47:41
Brian Atlaswouldn't disprove the general point that generally women are more feminine. >> Mhm. Correct. >> Men are more masculine. >> Correct.
07:47:51
Brian Atlas>> Um okay. Um so soccer do you think do you think men the elite men would beat the elite women? >> Sure. I don't know anything about soccer. So, >> okay. Tennis.
07:48:04
Emily>> Yes. >> Uh, golf. >> Is golf a sport? >> Yes. >> Oh. Um, I don't know. I don't know what physical attributes you even need for golf. Rugby. It's just
07:48:16
Brian Atlas>> men. Yes. It's like football. >> Um, basketball. >> Men. >> Okay. Uh, Quidditch. >> I don't think that's a sport, but good. >> That's definitely a sport in Hogwarts.
07:48:29
Brian AtlasOkay, Harry Potter. >> Which house are you? >> Polo. >> That's some up to the horses. So, >> okay. Excuse me. Um, all right. Well, okay.
07:48:42
Emily>> Um, how about weightlifting? >> Most likely men as they naturally have more muscle mass. >> Yes, that's especially upper body. So, >> okay. Uh, running.
07:48:51
Emily>> I do run. Um, I ran competitively in high school and I saw a lot of both. So, >> hold on. Especially since it was you ran in high school.
07:49:03
Emily>> Yes. >> And you from your firsthand experience. >> It also was because >> you didn't notice that the men were faster than the women. >> Well, there was cuz they ran our races together. >> Can Can I guess? It depends.
07:49:18
Emily>> Yes. >> Yeah. >> You ran the races? No, they break up. >> Well, they high school sports by gender >> together, but I went to a smaller school, so sometimes people didn't want
07:49:28
Emilyto watch a bunch of kids on the track for two miles twice. So, they would just run boys and girls for the two-mile at the same time. So, and then they just grade them separately.
07:49:40
Emily>> Grade them. So, grade >> Yeah, cuz you have your times when you cross the finish line. Whoever had the shortest time was got the most points for track. So
07:49:49
Emily>> wait, hold on. You your grade in track was Hold on. What? >> I grading may not be the best word. So for competitive track, at least for the high school I went to,
07:50:01
Emily>> like you could get a C if you >> No, not like that. But like >> they score. How about score might No. No. >> Okay. I was like, well [ __ ] these people who lose get an F, I guess. >> No, not like that.
07:50:14
Brian Atlas>> You can still participate and lose the Okay, whatever. Um, okay. For racing though, I don't I didn't get a clear answer. Uh, are men faster than women?
07:50:25
Brian Atlas>> You know what I'm going to say? >> Okay. The the 100 meter sprint, 100 yard sprint. >> Probably men. >> Probably. Why not? Why not just 100%
07:50:37
Brian Atlasmen? But okay. Uh, what about the uh mile? Are men faster than women? M >> generally >> generally how about that? >> 4 400 meter. That's one lap, right? 400
07:50:52
Brian Atlasmeter. >> Yes. >> One lap. Who's faster? One lap. >> Probably more men. >> All right. All right. That's That's it for the questionnaire. Uh guys, get the roast in. What the [ __ ] boys? Get some
07:51:02
Brian Atlas[ __ ] roast in, guys. Uh let's see here. Uh oh, let's pull this up. Can you read? Do these ladies have real jobs or just only fans crap? Sorry I knew your channel. Found you through Charlie, but
07:51:15
Brian Atlasthese conversations are shocking to me. I was born in the 80s, so call me old, but I'll pray for them. >> Uh, actually only uh Cena there has Only Fans, so everybody else here
07:51:26
Brian Atlas>> has uh normal jobs, I guess you could say. Thank you, though. Ally, welcome to the channel. W All, thank you for the super chat. $69 TTS, guys, if you want to get it in. Okay, we're going to do a
07:51:38
Brian Atlascouple pre We're gonna do the pre-show notes now and then we'll wrap up. Uh, we're gonna blast through these as quick as possible. Uh, why don't we start with Marsha?
07:51:51
Brian AtlasYou got robbed because your boyfriend made you wait outside his house too long. >> Uh, what happened? Tell us the quick story. Okay. So, it was my first um
07:52:02
Marcarelationship and I was a little um naive and I was just very in love and we were together for like three years and I was like head over heels over him but he was um he wasn't he was um
07:52:15
Marca>> the gang banger. >> No, no, he um he was cheating. No, >> he was cheating and at the well he had like he had cheated on me. Um
07:52:25
Marca>> Oh. and but we were still trying to like work through it. And anyway, so I like went over to his house um to pick him up because we were going to go get food and it was like late at night. I think it
07:52:35
Marcawas like 11:00 p.m. And he doesn't live in like the best area. And um at the time, um I remember I was like smoking so I had my window rolled down and I was just waiting for him to come out and I
07:52:47
Marcawas texting him telling him to hurry because it was dark and I was scared. And then two um Hispanic men approached my window, but my window was like halfway down. >> You were in your car? >> Yeah. Okay. >> And I'm like and I'm just like on my
07:52:59
Marcaphone like texting him like to hurry up because like it's hella dark and I'm like scared. And then as I'm texting him, two men come up to my window. Um and they knock on my window and then I turn over to the side and then they start like complimenting me. They're
07:53:12
Marcalike, "Oh, you're so beautiful. Like let me get your number, blah blah." And then I said, "No, like I have a boyfriend." Like and I kind of like shued them away. And then um I didn't roll up my window. I just like looked to the right because my boyfriend's house was on the right
07:53:24
Marcaside and I like started like texting. I'm like hurry like these men are. And then cuz I had heard cuz they walked away after. So I was like hurry like these men just came up. I was like texting that and then I heard like footsteps like like running towards me
07:53:35
Marcaand then I like I like look to my like window and all I see is like a gun straight in my face and then I like start spinning and I'm like what's the [ __ ] is going on? And I look down and I'm bleeding profusely and I'm like, "Oh
07:53:47
Marcano, this is real life. Marca, you better like get your [ __ ] together." And then I >> So you got pistol whipped? >> Yes. And then I like look up and I'm like listening to everything and then I like couldn't hear. Everything was slow motion. I like couldn't hear anything and I was moving slow and then all of a
07:54:00
Marcasudden everything went fast and it was like, "Bitch, get the [ __ ] out. [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out. Like you're going to get killed if you don't get out." And I was like, "Oh my god." Like I'm going to get I really thought I was going to die. I was like, "This is this is the end." Like my boyfriend's literally going to catch me outside. he's going to be traumatized for the rest of his life and
07:54:13
Marcalike Marsha is going to be dead. And I couldn't even open the the door. I was like so like shook. I I like grab I thankfully I had my phone and I hopped out through my window and I started running towards his house and then I just like I just had like the feeling
07:54:25
Marcathat they were going to shoot my bag. So I was like I need to lay down and I just like lay down on the grass and then I heard my car go skir and then they took it and then I started I was trying to text him and my hands would not work. I literally couldn't walk. I couldn't do
07:54:38
MarcaYeah. I was like I just started screaming. I just got screaming his name. I was like whatever his name was, I'm not going to say it, but I was like I was screaming his name and then he and >> Rupert. >> Rupert. >> And then >> Rupert. >> Rupert. And then he came out and he came
07:54:51
Marcaout and then he was like, "Why are you yelling?" He was like, "Why are you yelling?" And I'm literally like bleeding. And I'm like And I'm I can't even talk. I'm like I'm Yes. I have a little scar right here, but you can't I have makeup over it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um and then I was like I was like, "I
07:55:03
Marcajust got" and I couldn't talk. I was like, "I just got I just got my car. My car." I was like, "You need to get in your car. We need to call the police." He was like, "Wait." He was like, "Are you lying?" And I was like, "No." I was like, "My car is gone. Like, I just got pistol whipped." And then he started
07:55:14
Marcacrying. And then he was like, "Fuck." And then he disclosed. He was like, he was like, "Okay, don't be mad at me." Um, he's like, he's like, "I have a sol." He's like, he's like, "I have like a solution." Like, he's like, "We're going to call the cops." But he's like, he's like, "I have to tell you something." And I was like, "What?" He
07:55:27
Marcawas like, "I have a tracker in your car." I was like, "Oh, interesting." But it ended up working. Yeah. He gave it he gave the cops his phone and they found my car because he had a tracker in my car. So, my first sex was crazy.
07:55:40
Brian Atlas>> Wow. I guess that kind of worked out though, like it did. It did. But >> I wasn't expecting that. >> Wow. >> Wait. And where where did this take place? What part of LA? >> It actually took place in the valley in San Frernando Valley, which is even
07:55:53
Brian Atlascrazier. >> Was it was it white guys? >> No, I said it was Hispanics. >> Hispanic. Okay. Um I don't know. It's the [ __ ] valley. Maybe it's the valley. >> Hispanic white dudes. It was It was the scariest thing I've ever had.
07:56:06
Marca>> Grand Theft Autoing all over the place. >> I was I had like PTSD. I couldn't be in cars at night time for like a year and a half. I literally would be like like looking everywhere and like >> Wait. Oh my god. Wait.
07:56:17
Marca>> This is going to sound crazy. Chat, are you thinking what I'm thinking? Boyfriend set you up. >> That's what everybody thought. I said, but that's he wouldn't like he he he didn't set me up. He literally started
07:56:29
Marcacrying and then and then he he's just like that's just not his vibe. Um, he just made me way too long. >> Why did you Because he's he's cuz he's like [ __ ] up. Yeah. I thought you were about to say some racist [ __ ] but
07:56:42
Felicity>> Oh, no. You know, >> what is going on in your head? >> Yeah. >> That girl, your friend, Madam Houston, she said color people timing. >> I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to her.
07:56:55
Brian Atlas>> Oh, you're talking >> Madam Houston. She said I would never say this by She said CPT. >> Colored people time. >> Yeah. And then Kelsey calls it Caucasian all the time. >> Okay, that was a joke. >> I know it's a joke. She didn't say that.
07:57:08
Brian AtlasI'm making >> some Sometimes we do be a little late, so >> it's okay. You were on time. Good for you. >> Yeah, there's the two Mexican. Sorry, Latino women. My bad. >> Yeah, >> sorry. >> She's Mexican. She's a little Mexican. >> I'm sorry. There's other
07:57:21
Brian Atlas>> I don't know. >> There's other Latinas. There's Puerto Ricans. >> Well, are Cubans Kubano Kubana Kubana Kubana. Uh, you
07:57:31
Brian Atlasknow, there's Costa Ricans, there's Panameanians, there's Peruvians, there's Chileans, there's Argentinians, [Music]
07:57:41
Brian Atlas>> uh, okay, you got uh, robbed. Nice. >> Yeah. Scary. >> You also dating dated your best friend and you took her from her man.
07:57:52
Marca>> I did. I did. She was She was in the wrong relationship, though. >> Okay. >> Yeah. All right. So, um, you swooped. You swiped.
07:58:03
Brian Atlas>> I did. I You stole >> You'd uh Let's see here. You say men don't try anymore. Dating is whack nowadays. >> Yeah. >> H >> And that's probably why I date women.
07:58:14
Brian Atlas>> Look, I think we got to be in our sparkle sparkle era as men. >> You guys kind of >> our sassy man apocalypse. I think >> us men, we got to take a step back, do as little work as possible, and kind of
07:58:26
Brian Atlaslet the women >> going to get you nowhere. Just get let the women do everything. >> On that I mean that's what they do. >> Let the women do all the work. Just kidding. But seriously, but for reals. >> Uh oh. Going to Kelsey. Kelsey, you
07:58:40
Brian Atlasknow, look, you you've only been with one guy. You've been divorced. No rebounds. Uh, you said you're waiting until marriage for >> like you 100% waiting until marriage or
07:58:52
Brian Atlaslike what if a really nice >> nice guy from Indiana comes along and is like doesn't want to wait, you know? Would you would you date him? Like would you do it or not? You were waiting till marriage.
07:59:03
Kelsey Risk>> I I'd say too bad. I'm sorry. You you cannot milk the cow without buying. I want a ring on it. >> Mhm. >> Can't milk the cow. That's weird. But what if you just what if like once you sleep with him?
07:59:16
Kelsey Risk>> Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead. My bad. >> What if it doesn't click? >> Yeah. >> What if you sleep with him and it's bad, you don't connect? >> It's not like a priority of hers. >> I know that like if it's bad. >> Well, okay. You have to define bad
07:59:28
Kelsey Riskbecause some some people don't enjoy it. >> Okay. You do not enjoy the sexy or what if he like noises and it's scary. Like >> that's her husband though. Well, men can
07:59:40
Kelsey Riskturn around and say the same thing about women. I was a virgin. Was I was I a gambling? Was he gambling with me being a virgin? Was that a risk that he saw or was that an opportunity risk
07:59:52
Kelsey Risk>> for us to have intimacy and grow together and learn? Is that an opportunity for me to say to my husband like, "Hey, how can I serve you today? Hey, is there anything that you'd like to do differently?" You know, being open
08:00:04
Kelsey Riskto that. It's like I grow and learn with my partner. We do that together. We share that bond that I and also like I can sleep at night knowing that I save myself. I don't have to sit there on
08:00:17
Kelsey Riskfirst, second, third, fourth date and be like, "Yeah, so um you're not like Romeo and you're not like Stephen. Steven was like duh like he didn't have to be
08:00:28
Kelsey Riskcompared." And that that's something that I wanted to do for him. I I didn't want him to have a comparison. >> I love that. >> I just wanted it to be him, you know? I wish >> remind me of my mom.
08:00:39
Marca>> Oh, is your mom like that? >> No, my mom um has only dated my dad. My My parents are together, by the way. >> And my mom's only had sex with my dad. She lost She waited till marriage. >> And she's never gotten I don't know
08:00:51
Marcaabout this, right? But she's never gone in drunk. She's never taken a shot. She's never smoked. She's very much like >> Yeah. Same >> mom vibes. Yeah. My mom is like that. >> Yeah. It It's fun to just have that part. >> She lives a great happy life. She's like
08:01:05
Kelsey Riskthe happiest woman. Like, >> yeah, I mean, I encourage other women to do it just because like you don't have to worry also about does someone have like an STI or an STD coming into the relationship and stuff. Those are my
08:01:18
Kelsey Riskpersonal preferences. >> No, I I can >> I I just don't have to worry about that. >> I love that view. >> Yeah, >> I've been celibate for two years. So, >> Awesome. Good for you. So, that that's that's my stance on it. So,
08:01:29
Kelsey Risk>> or like a year and a half. God designed sex for marriage and it's in that confines. And so going along with Christian beliefs, I believe it's holy and sacred. It should be treated like that and and people should be
08:01:42
Brian Atlasrespected in the relationship too coming into it. I don't want to objectify you and I don't want you to object. >> You can objectify me. I'm okay. Women can object objectify away. >> No hoes. >> Objectify away. Women.
08:01:54
Brian Atlas>> You want to use me for my body? >> Go ahead. Steph knows what I'm talking about. Objectify away. I'll be I'll be Kelsey. I'll be your
08:02:04
Brian Atlasrebound. Do you want to be my Wait, my >> I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.
08:02:13
Felicity>> Nine. >> Him. Sorry. I was I should I shouldn't have said anything. >> I'm sorry. >> Oh. >> Oh, wait. I can That's above the threshold. >> Yeah.
08:02:21
Felicity>> Uh, okay. We'll pull these up. One sec here. Yeah. Read this one. Failicity. FGM is considered a human rights
08:02:33
Felicityviolation by the Center for Reproductive Rights. There are no such protections for MGM chair 2. Is there anything that is allowed for male or female corpses that aren't allowed for the opposite sex
08:02:43
Emilycorpses? No. Um we'll uh do whatever needs to be done to make sure someone's sanitized, well preserved, and presentable for their family. Um now
08:02:54
Emilycertain religions may require certain things to be done. Um and usually in that case there's a p practitioner from the religion that'll come in and do
08:03:04
Emilythat. For example um for um Islamic families um they'll have a group of people from the mosque and if it's a woman it'll be a group of women and if it's a man it'll be a group of men
08:03:15
Brian Atlasthat'll use our um prep room to walk bathe someone and get them ready for their service. Um >> so uh anyways we do a segment Sorry I'm
08:03:26
Marcasuch a dick. Okay. We do a segment where everybody takes off their makeup. You guys game. You game. >> I wanted to picture. >> Yeah, we're taking pictures after this.
08:03:38
MarcaWe take pictures for like our like socials. So, >> yeah, for social med
08:03:49
Binawithout >> I don't even know why you would take pictures with makeup because you're already so beautiful. >> No, it's not about being beautiful. So, it's about the whole like you have a makeup look to match the outfit to match
08:04:01
Brian Atlasthe hair. >> Hair fashion girl expression. >> It's to look beautiful or >> Where you going, Cena? >> It's going to the bathroom. >> Oh, she's going to You got to do in the bathroom. What? Makeup. Makeup. Will you guys take your makeup off? Anybody?
08:04:13
Brian Atlas>> I was going to take my makeup off. I look the same with or without it. >> Makeup. >> Whoa. Wait, Felicity. Oh, you're just doing your Why do you put it on your chest? >> Because it doesn't like it needs to blend >> properly. Yeah,
08:04:26
Felicity>> it's not. Also, you're saving me a step cuz when I get back going to take my makeup off. >> What time is it? >> It's past my bedtime.
08:04:36
Brian Atlas>> It's uh we're going to wrap very soon. That's what time it is. So, hold it up. Hold up the damage. Hold up the damage.
08:04:44
Stephanie>> I wear a lot of eye makeup stick. But makeup aside from chair 27. >> Yeah. And I like never have fake eyelashes on and I kind of want to like
08:04:57
Felicity>> you guys might make me look a little likely. >> Aside from chair 2, seven, and nine, y'all are ordinary. Boom roasted. W whatever. W whatever staff. >> Boom roasted.
08:05:10
Felicity>> I mean, I don't know if he's like coming for me or if he likes me >> cuz I'm whatever staff, but I'm chair eight. >> Do you want to Are you into him?
08:05:20
Brian Atlas>> No. I'm just saying he's >> talking you talking [ __ ] about [ __ ] Christopher, bro. >> Hell yeah, >> bro. Hold on. What the [ __ ] dude? Are you [ __ ] kidding me right now, dude? Are you [ __ ] serious? >> Yeah, [ __ ] We will both match you.
08:05:33
Brian AtlasWhat? >> That's my boy. Yo, >> why you talking [ __ ] about Christopher, dog? >> No. >> Hey, Es
08:05:43
SPEAKER_02chill out, homie. Hey, don't talk to me like that, dog. >> Not Hey, get the get the [ __ ] out of here, Felicity. >> I would like to >> That's my [ __ ] homie dog. >> Bro, >> don't you
08:05:56
Kelsey Risk>> Brian, chair nine. That's yours. >> Yes. No, for real. Chair N. >> I think he wants to be more than homies. >> Show some [ __ ] respect. Essay >> crying. >> Hey, show some [ __ ] respect, bro. >> You're so butchering it.
08:06:09
Felicity>> Hey, shut up, Felicity, dog. >> You're from Santa Barbara and you don't even can't even do the proper accent. >> [ __ ] dead. Wait. I don't know why that was so funny.
08:06:23
SPEAKER_04I'm getting tired. That might be why it's >> been a long time. >> Hey, listen.
08:06:36
Brian Atlas>> Don't wink at me. >> I didn't [ __ ] wink, dog. What the [ __ ] You think something's wrong with my eye? >> He definitely needs a snicker. >> Hey, essay. Calm down. Yo, calm down. homes. >> Don't play me like that dog.
08:06:50
Felicity>> Wait, what the [ __ ] am I? >> You can't you can't change that. >> Do that one. >> Do your British thing or whatever you do.
08:07:01
Emily>> No, I kind of like I kind of like this. >> This is more Speak some French. >> Do a French accent. >> Hey, >> it's okay. I can't do accents either.
08:07:13
Kelsey Risk>> He thinks he can though. What are you trying to do over there? >> Is that Is that German? >> That is very very bad. I can't believe you would try to do that. >> Not going to lie, that's kind of hot.
08:07:25
Kelsey Risk>> Very disappointed. >> It doesn't really sound German. It sounds >> It's like vaguely Eastern European kind like Ukrainian kind, you know, the more Eastern European.
08:07:37
Kelsey Risk>> Get it right. Get it right. >> Now that's German. That was German. Hey, fidget.
08:07:49
Bina>> Hey, but hey, he's a good-looking guy. Why you got to talk [ __ ] to him like that? >> Okay, we're not stop talking about Christopher. >> Hey, that's my [ __ ] homie, though. >> Yeah.
08:08:00
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Essay. >> Just >> Okay. Sorry. I can't I'm just repeating this same joke at this point. All right, Christopher, send in a champagne pop cuz I stuck up for you, I guess. Shh. >> It's too late.
08:08:13
Donations/TTS>> Felicity. >> Felicity. >> Jonath.
08:08:21
EmilyEverybody wants to know what's with the gloves. >> It's called fashion class. >> Tik Tok. >> Oh, I just wanted to kind of dress up my outfit. Actually, um, a coworker's mother passed away and she's like, I
08:08:34
Emilyhave all these cool vintage gloves, but I don't wear them. So, you can have them. But there's nothing special about my hands other than being weird looking. But yeah, I don't get manicures really
08:08:45
Felicityother than who the hell >> I know. I know you don't care. So I was just answering talking about >> zip it for faility accent.
08:08:56
Donations/TTS>> But no, I look the same regardless. [Music] >> Ch donated $69. Hey Brian, good work as always. Nick
08:09:06
Emilykilling it in chat again. Felicity was also there. Question for chair 2. >> No disrespect, but are you on the spectrum? >> Well, I've never been formally diagnosed, but I have a coworker who's
08:09:19
Emilyinsistent I am, even though I hate routines. So, he will get a good laugh out of that when I tell him about it at work later this week. >> Nice. Nice. Uh, okay. Fairy, that's you.
08:09:31
Brian Atlas>> How do they know that? >> Oh, no. That's your social media. >> Oh, okay. or whatever. Um, you said the amount of times you hung out with men and they didn't have basic needs like water. >> Mhm. >> Oh, >> like they didn't have water like for
08:09:45
Binayou, for them >> for both of us. And I was like, >> like they had a toilet. That's it. >> Yeah. Not even my dish sponge. >> And I was just No, literally I was like, >> they don't have tap water. >> Drink water. >> There's no tap water.
08:09:57
Bina>> I mean, I'm sure I'm not drinking that. >> Are you dating homeless men? >> Right. No, this is this is these are literally people like models like >> people who should have their [ __ ]
08:10:09
Brian Atlastogether and don't >> and they're just models that much all my experiences >> I don't know if I I just drink a lot of water but women don't drink water.
08:10:21
Bina>> Okay. I don't know what women you are around but women drink water. I don't know about the women you are cuz like we need water to keep our coochie good. Well, then their coochie is
08:10:32
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, but I don't know. Whenever I feel like uh I drink way more water and the girl will have like one sip. >> I'll have I don't know if we can bring the picture over here. Bring it over, Mary. The picture.
08:10:44
Brian Atlas>> I'll drink in a couple hours. I'll drink an entire picture of water. A girl might not even drink anything. >> Well, maybe you shouldn't be hanging out with those women. >> Look at this. I'll drink this whole
08:10:56
Brian Atlas[ __ ] thing when it's full in like 2 or 3 hours. That's >> it's good you're staying hydrated for yourself. >> Anyways, whatever. Um, >> uh, you want the topic of how men treat women today and how lazy everyone is in
08:11:08
Binageneral when it comes to dating. So, how do men treat women? >> Honestly, I think that everyone is just lazy. Like, I think that instant gratification is huge in like today's
08:11:20
Binageneration and like the younger generations. Um, I think everybody is so used to, you know, everything being at the tip of their fingers and it stems from like
08:11:31
Binasocial media and the internet and like we're just all just instant gratification is what we're all after subconsciously, even if you don't want
08:11:41
Binato be like that. And it's like pouring over into the dating area and I just think that everyone is lazy, men and women. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Uh, all right.
08:11:54
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Um, both men and women are lazy. Okay. >> You also wrote that men need to stop going after the baddies if they haven't stop stopped in themselves. >> I like no
08:12:05
Bina>> misread or mistyped that. So, it's going to sound weird, but you like read it and then word it the right way cuz there's some typos, but you'll understand what I'm trying to say. >> You said men need to stop going after
08:12:16
Brian Atlasbaddies if they haven't uh fixed themselves first. be emotionally ready. >> They should say, "Can I give this baddy
08:12:26
Brian Atlaseverything she needs?" Do I even want to love someone? Yeah. Okay. So, uh I guess really quick, what what is what does a baddie need? And what is a baddie?
08:12:36
Bina>> I would say first of all, independent woman that really doesn't need a man, but if they did have one, it would be
08:12:45
Binaadding on, never taking away. >> So, yeah. Um, and then someone a woman who a woman who cares about herself and
08:12:55
Binathat takes care of herself. Um, basically just someone who really like has their [ __ ] together but is a woman.
08:13:04
BinaSo, she's a baddie. And, um, I would say that a baddie needs the male version baddy. I guess like a zatty. >> Okay. >> And
08:13:16
Bina>> all right. basically a man who matches that energy who is constantly like to to even be like a baddie like it's always wanting better for yourself and wanting
08:13:26
Binato constantly like >> you know keep yourself to a higher standard like >> I love that >> to Yeah.
08:13:36
Brian Atlas>> Uh okay I'm Yeah I get it. Um oh all the way your friend Asha we should have her on because I saw some of her [ __ ] Gangster Princess, shape shifter, muse. Tell her if she's down, we'll get we'll have her come another time because we we
08:13:49
Brian Atlascould definitely have some cool combo with her. >> Uh Iris gonna eat you up. >> Yes. >> You just got out of abusive relationship with a rich man. Can you do you want to tell us how you abused him? >> He abused me.
08:14:01
Iris>> Oh my god. I'm so sorry. My mistake. >> Um and the reason why I say that is because he told me, "Okay, I was a model. I had a competition I needed to go to. Didn't even make it to it. Mind
08:14:13
Irisyou, it was for my finals. Uh that's because once I started this relationship with him, he's the one that told me that he would support me in every endeavor that I needed to do. So, I would not have to work and I would just have to
08:14:24
Irisuphold a traditional wife role, cooking, cleaning, taking care of him, nurturing him, making sure that he's okay. And I did that. and
08:14:35
IrisI didn't get what I wanted from the situation, which was just, hey, all you got to do is fly me to my competition. You said that you would fly me to my competition. And as soon as the date
08:14:46
Iriscame, that didn't happen. And then it was just a disappointment after disappointment. And when I say the disappointments, it's just he felt as
08:14:56
Iristhough he would be able to do as he pleased and I would not be able to do as I please. And once it made it to that point, he was like, "Okay, well, why
08:15:08
Irisdon't you just work for me?" So essentially, I ended up getting scammed in the situation because it's like,
08:15:17
Irissorry I'm going fast, but I ended up giving up myself, my career, what I wanted to do in order to love him
08:15:28
Brian Atlasand do whatever he wanted me to do. And so, um, how long were you guys together? >> It was 6 months. >> And And so he didn't fly you? I'm just you. He didn't fly you to a competition
08:15:40
Irisand that's him being abusive. >> No, that was only one part of it. He was also narcissistic. >> Diagnosed by you, I'm assuming. >> No, there's actually people that can
08:15:51
Iristrack his behavior. >> Was he has he been diagnosed by a mental health care professional? >> He is bipolar and he does also have ADHD and he is autistic.
08:16:03
Iris>> Narcissist [ __ ] hat. >> He's almost like a hat there. for the hand trick and somehow he's put it in. >> Oh my word. This is one of Leandowski's. >> Yeah. And then he's also doing like this
08:16:14
Irisbig humiliation ritual to me because he's also a streamer. I did crash out on his live. The first time that I have ever my voice. No, it's John Moss. Lol.
08:16:27
Iris>> John Moss. >> You said that name. >> Exactly. He's like He was clearly falling off in this. I'm the one that he's making content off of right now. So, >> get this girl a [ __ ] >> We better look it up.
08:16:39
Brian Atlas>> Contract to star in transgender good fellas. Um, >> so I want to do that. >> That was sweet. >> Silly. >> Oh, silly.
08:16:50
Brian Atlas>> I thought you said I was sweet. >> No, no, no. It's a It's a silly. >> Why you looking at my >> That's This girl's been pinging on me all night. It's [ __ ] crazy, dude. >> You wish.
08:17:02
Kelsey Risk>> It's crazy. Anyway, >> uh, >> wait a minute. You told me you'd be my rebound guy. What you What are you doing over there? >> Promising too many. >> No, what is she? You should be upset at her because she's trying to swoop on
08:17:15
Brian Atlasyour man. >> No, it's never that woman's issue. >> I don't know. She's giving me like the side eye. Like, get away from me. I think I'm set over here. >> Okay, >> I'm sitting on the side table. >> Um, damn. Okay, so you just got this
08:17:26
Brian Atlasabusive thing with this rich man. Rich man streamer. I don't know. How many followers does he have a lot of follow? >> 7 million on Tik Tok, 1 million on Facebook. >> Damn. Okay. >> What What kind of content does he do?
08:17:38
Iris>> He's supposed to be doing comedy content. He also read Reddit stories, so he's able to sensationalize anything that just comes. >> I I'm not familiar with the gentleman,
08:17:49
Brian Atlasbut Okay. Uh you wanted to talk about traditional housewives and traditional house rules. You say it's the dis excuse me disillusion of taking on the traditional role of being a housewife. What do you want?
08:18:01
Iris>> Right. Because I decided to go ahead and take on that role for him because we were supposed to be building a relationship together. But as we can see how that turned out, he ended up just using it to play me to be a domestic
08:18:12
Brian Atlasservitude to him. >> I see. Okay. All right. Damn. RIP. >> Yeah. >> All right.
08:18:19
Brian Atlas>> Uh let's see here. We have uh Cena. Uh someone asked you to take your makeup off on the first date. >> What?
08:18:34
SPEAKER_02>> Whoa. >> That's so weird. >> Wait, can you take your contacts out, too? >> Okay. You look different. >> No, she not really. She doesn't. >> I didn't say anything bad. I just said
08:18:47
Brian Atlasshe looks different. Not really. >> Uh, most girls wear too much makeup and easily catfish, so he went and got makeup remover. Did you? >> I did. I took it off on the >> Were you sing for him? >> No. >> Were you down bad?
08:18:59
Cena>> I wasn't down bad, but he was like, "Yeah, like all girls are catfishes because they wear makeup, blah blah blah blah blah." And I was just like, "Okay." So then he's like, "I'm going to like go get makeup remover for you to remove
08:19:11
Cenayour makeup." I'm like, "Okay, that's intense for a first date." So weird. I would laugh anytime. >> That is so weird. >> Have you ever slashed a guy's tires? >> No, I haven't. >> Have you ever burned a guy's clothes?
08:19:24
Brian Atlas>> No. >> Have you ever murdered somebody? >> No. >> Have you ever? >> You think I'm a psychopath? >> Have you ever been diagnosed with anything?
08:19:37
Brian Atlas>> Depression. >> Depression. Anything else? >> Uh, ADHD. Same. >> Okay, cool. Uh, all right. You said that you don't think women should ever get
08:19:49
Brian Atlasdown on one knee. >> No. No. What about that's a man's job >> for Never mind. Um, >> it's the man's job >> to propose. Literally, you can't. >> Man's job. If you can't, you should marry him.
08:20:03
Brian Atlas>> Okay. I don't think, look, even if I wanted to marry a woman, I would never get down. >> Do you want to marry a man? >> Huh? >> Do you want to marry a man? >> Good ones. Um, that was good. You're you're you're getting better. You're
08:20:16
Brian Atlasimproving. She's very clever. >> Uh I would I would just stay standing and I would do something like Hold on, let me find. >> If a guy did that to me, I would say no. >> Yeah, same.
08:20:28
Brian Atlas>> Like for example, here I do something like this. Don't get your hopes up, Felicity. >> Kelsey, will you marry me?
08:20:39
Brian Atlas>> It's gorgeous. Now down on Woody knee. I would say you didn't do it right >> again. >> You know what? That was actually the nice version. The Who? Anybody here can catch? Ready? Cena, ready? Watch them.
08:20:53
Brian Atlas>> Oh, >> just actually I'm kind of scared. I don't know. >> I can catch. >> It's okay. But I'd probably just Here, I'd throw it. We're married now. >> Really kind of you. >> You're my fiance. I wouldn't even ask.
08:21:05
Brian Atlas>> No, for real. >> You're my fiance. Boom. Here you go. Um, so okay. I think you'd be a little more romantic than that, Brian. >> Well, I just don't want to get married is the thing. So, it's never going to work between us, Kelsey. Sorry.
08:21:17
Brian Atlas>> That's okay. >> It's okay. Uh, excuse you, Felicity. >> I just want to see what it look like. >> Yeah, it's very expensive. It's really pretty.
08:21:29
Brian Atlas>> You know what, Felicity? >> I think it's pretty. I'm actually really picky. >> Say that. >> As you said, you're not going to say what >> what uh >> dating as an influencer is hard, says Cena.
08:21:42
Brian Atlas>> I think it's only fair to date same level or higher. Since you're already at a certain level, you shouldn't date anyone who's lower than you makes less. >> Date like a nobody. >> Who do you date, Cena? >> Huh?
08:21:55
Cena>> Have you been on any dates recently? You've been single for a year. >> No, I haven't. No, you're just all alone there. >> No, cuz an influencer is so hard. Like, you have to take in They're literally If
08:22:05
Cenayou're dating a male influencer, they're surrounded by girls. >> If you're dating a female influencer, they're surrounded by guys. >> Mhm. >> Like, so if you
08:22:17
Brian Atlas>> what would be the male influencer that's on your level that you cuz you said, you know, whatever. >> I don't know. >> Because you have a couple hundred thousand followers or something on TikTok. I think you know you
08:22:29
Brian Atlas>> you just find like a normal guy. >> Yeah, I feel like it might be easier to date a normal guy. >> Social media presence. >> Okay. Uh you said love at first sight isn't real.
08:22:40
Brian AtlasIt's just lust. Men lust for women. If they can't or don't know how to I'm not even going to finish that sentence. Uh, you said girls will date ugly guys or any guys cuz personality, but less
08:22:53
Cenaattractive girls have a hard time dating cuz guys only want to date pretty girls. >> You don't think so? Like guys only want to date pretty girls. Like I'm not saying they wouldn't have a hookup. They wouldn't have a one night.
08:23:07
Marca>> Yeah. You literally said this earlier. You said men will literally hook up with ugly girls and not date them and only date like they're really really like what they want. >> Yeah. Girls won't do anything with an ugly eye generally.
08:23:19
Felicity>> That's not true. >> That is not true. I think these glasses are a little too small, >> are they? Or my head is just massive. >> Maybe I just have a big head. >> Yeah,
08:23:30
Brian Atlas>> I don't know. Um All right. Uh that's cool. Uh I mean I disagree, but I won't even argue it. >> Yeah. >> What's that? >> I dated ugly. >> I only date
08:23:42
Brian Atlas>> John Moss. >> Okay. Jonathan Deark the Mark >> the full government. >> Uh, okay. Kelsey Kelsey, you writes, uh, "Your husband left you to find his
08:23:54
Brian Atlasfreedom." Quotes, uh, inspired by the lifestyles he saw from his friends and influencers on social media. He specifically said, "They're living my life for me. I choose to stand by my vows, hoping he would come to his senses
08:24:07
Brian Atlas>> and realize the grass isn't greener. Instead, he called me a week before Thanksgiving and he was promising you a trip and he was in Florida with a married 22-year-old woman
08:24:19
Brian Atlas>> and he said he was never really married to you and was never ever ever coming back. Wait, so do you guys have uh shared custody of >> No, I have sole custody. >> Does he pay you child support? >> Yes, he does. >> Does he pay you alimony?
08:24:32
Brian Atlas>> No, there's no alimony in the state of Indiana. >> Really? >> Yep. That went away over a decade ago. >> Yep. Oh, W Indiana, I guess should >> you're gonna get married, get married. >> Alimony is when you can pay reparations
08:24:45
Kelsey Riskback to the spouse. >> Yeah. >> Reparations. >> Uh if you've been married for 10 years or longer, then you can get like a percentage of the 401k and such.
08:24:55
Kelsey Risk>> Um also like it depends on how many assets that you have like within the marriage to divide or whatnot, but there's no alimony in Indiana. Oh, do
08:25:06
Felicityyou raising your daughter? >> Who's in the chat? >> Trevoresley. >> Okay. >> Do you want them to know that?
08:25:17
Kelsey Risk>> Do you want me to say it for you? >> It's okay. Don't worry about it. Um, damn, that's [ __ ] up. Uh, so how much does he pay you in child support? >> That's something I don't think that I
08:25:28
Kelsey Riskshould be saying online. Is it enough to fully support me? No. I mean, realistically, >> was he wealthy or >> they take No, what they do is they take a they look at the amount that you make and then they do it based off of
08:25:41
Brian Atlaspercentage. So, right, >> it's just a bas income. Yeah. >> Yes. Yes. >> Uh, you said before your ex-husband, you had never dated anyone. He was your first in everything, including first kiss at a drive-in movie theater. >> Oh my gosh, it literally remind me of my
08:25:55
Kelsey Riskmom. >> Wait, that was so cute. >> Okay, this is really cute. So, we were in a movie theater and we were sitting there with my family. We were going out and we watched Guardians of the Galaxy and he leans over to my parents and he
08:26:06
Kelsey Riskasked them, "Can I hold your daughter's hand?" That was adorable. That was so cute. My parents are just like, "What?" And he's like, "Can I hold your daughter's hand?" And my dad's like, "I don't care." And so
08:26:18
Brian Atlas>> he did that. >> I feel like men are more respectful where you're from. Well, minus the whole leaving, but like they're very they are so like
08:26:31
Brian Atlasshiverous. >> It's the Midwest. >> Yeah, exactly. Are what you attract. >> You said you were a virgin when you guys married. You haven't been any with anyone else since the >> divorce, separation. You said you had
08:26:44
Kelsey Risksome thoughts on high body count you wanted to share. >> Yeah. So, um I I don't think that the high body count, and we already discussed this and you you had left, Brian, but it's just I don't believe that I need to have a high body count or
08:26:57
Kelsey Riskother people need to have a high body count to to find satisfaction in the relationship. One of the things about about growing in the relationship and one of the things about saving the virginity is that you get to grow and
08:27:09
Kelsey Riskexperience in that relationship together. um having a high body count can cause more harm and it can actually lead to a lot of mistrust as you're going through the dating process as well. So, it's one of those things where
08:27:21
Kelsey RiskI don't really see the value. Like I hear people say, "Oh, well, you need to go out and you have fun and and why why don't you have a higher body count?" You definitely can get that. It's like >> just cuz I can do something doesn't mean
08:27:32
Kelsey RiskI should just like Paul says everything uh you I have the right to do everything but not everything is beneficial. So >> when Yeah. When people make the argument that you should be doing this, it's like no, I shouldn't.
08:27:45
Kelsey Risk>> So, >> I don't I don't really see people come up to me and say it was because of my high body count that I have a better relationship with my spouse. It was because I engaged in hookup culture that
08:27:57
Brian AtlasI am more trustworthy of my spouse. And my spouse feels the same way about me. >> Good times. Good times. All right, >> we're finishing off with your notes. You're the last man standing. Last
08:28:08
Brian Atlasperson, then we're out. Uh, couple things more. You said you're Catholic. >> Yes. >> But you're pro-choice. >> Yes. Well, >> are you are you pro-choice? >> No.
08:28:19
Emily>> Okay. Uh, >> my encourage the board. >> I understand Catholicism isn't a monolith. >> Well, hold on. But I mean, the pope is
08:28:29
Brian Atlasthe leader of the Catholic Church. The Catholic doc the Catholic doctrine and the pope is anti or is against abortion.
08:28:41
Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> So how do you reconcile being a Catholic >> with uh being in favor of abortion? >> Well, I grew up in the Catholic church. I know a lot of Catholics. Also, I don't
08:28:53
Emilyknow if you know a lot about Bloomington. Um is very liberal town in Indiana. Um it's probably one of the few besides Indianapolis. California is very liberal, but there's Catholics in
08:29:03
EmilyCalifornia that are pro-life. >> But I knowing all the Catholic people I know, um, you know, everyone's got something they disagree with the church doctrine with or something the church
08:29:16
Emilydoesn't approve of. I mean, my dad's divorced and >> yeah, they can't really divorce under >> But there's a lot of people in the church who are divorced. Um,
08:29:27
Emily>> well, it can be granted under some some circumstances, right? Yes, but they weren't even married in the church to begin with. So, >> okay. >> And then, you know, when Pope um Francis
08:29:37
Emilywas alive, uh there were a lot of Catholics who disagreed with what things he would say. >> So, I I really like Pope Francis, but >> was he pro-choice or pro-life? >> He was pro-life. >> Okay.
08:29:50
Emily>> But there were other things people didn't like about him, especially more traditional Vatican one type Catholics didn't like about him. So, >> so are you pro abortion for like certain instances or like just open across the
08:30:04
Emilyboard because some people take different stances on that. >> It it really once again depends on the situation, but especially in cases where it's a minor in cases of incest for
08:30:15
Emilysure. Um you know, we we had that case in Indiana there Ohio's got more restrictive laws than Indiana and a 10-year-old girl came to Indiana to get an abortion. And um Todd Rakita, one of our represent or no, he's the attorney
08:30:29
Emilygeneral. >> Yeah, attorney general was pitched a fit about it and it just seemed really silly considering she was 10 and if it didn't cause her Yeah, she was done. >> That's disgusting.
08:30:40
Emily>> Uh okay. Um still still a little bit confusing to me. >> I mean, that's the thing about >> a whole group of people that makes up a religion. Not everyone agrees 100% with
08:30:52
Brian Atlaseverything. I mean, >> isn't that isn't it pretty central to the Christian faith, Catholic faith that um that uh like the sanctity of life?
08:31:04
Emily>> I've met Catholics who were very much for the death penalty. Um I've met Catholics who are very anti-immigrant. >> That's part of the sanctity of life. >> I'm not I mean, look, I'm not a
08:31:16
Brian Atlastheological guy. I am not a theological scholar but uh I I don't know if having a position against illegal immigration would >> put you put you in contravention of
08:31:29
EmilyCatholicism. >> There are people within the clergy who've been arrested for at protests for protesting against deporting people.
08:31:40
Brian Atlas>> Uh okay. But are you saying that if you don't believe in open borders, you're not a Catholic? Like I think it's just >> you have to believe in open borders to
08:31:54
Emilybe a Catholic. >> No, I'm just saying there's not everyone agrees with everything and you can still be part of it. What kind of motivated me? I had always I kind of turned away from Catholicism for a while
08:32:06
Emilyand then I came back but there were a couple things that yeah I just couldn't necessarily align with 100% but then I got kind of mad because there were pe
08:32:17
Emilynotable people in the church who were saying really hurtful divisive things and they could get away with saying they were Catholic and I thought well if they
08:32:26
Brian Atlascan so can I. Uh, okay. I mean, I I don't know. It seems like it's kind of central to the
08:32:37
Brian AtlasChristian faith, Catholic faith. Uh, I for I don't know what the exact uh I couldn't site to a specific thing. Not really my wheelhouse, but
08:32:49
EmilyI don't know how you reconcile Christianity with a pro-abortion position. >> You're also just focusing on one issue. There's much more to Catholic doctrine that other people don't agree on. I mean, have you ever heard of the term
08:33:01
Emilycafeteria Catholics? >> Oh, have you ever heard of the term caf cafeteria Catholics? >> No. >> It's a very common term that Catholics like to use where we kind of just pick and choose what we want to follow. A lot
08:33:14
Emilyof people do in it. And like I said before, you meet a lot of Catholics who've been divorced, a lot of one that have had some family issues that could be considered sinful, but they're still part of the church. You've got people
08:33:25
Brian Atlaswho are very much pro execution. >> Well, I don't I I actually don't think it's a hypocritical position to be pro death penalty. >> That's what I was taught differently growing up.
08:33:37
Brian Atlas>> Well, I look, I don't know what the Catholic prescription is on the death penalty, but I I I don't think it's hypocritical to, for example, if somebody is pro uh pro-life to be pro
08:33:49
Emilydeath penalty. I wouldn't think that that's hypocritical. I'm just saying that's what church doctrine says is respect all life from >> but I don't I don't know the Catholic I don't know the Catholic doctrine maybe
08:34:03
Brian Atlaslike >> Catholics are biblically scripture whatever it is uh like it's you shouldn't be >> believe in the death penalty I don't know maybe anybody in the chat a
08:34:14
Brian AtlasCatholic like is death penalty uh contravention of Catholic faith chat any Catholics Like, can you be a
08:34:24
Brian AtlasCatholic? And somebody says, Jackie, death penalty is fine by the Bible. What is she talking about? >> I think she's talking about solos scriptor. So, she's talking about scripture alone. When she said in the
08:34:35
Brian AtlasBible only that >> that's what I was taught growing up. >> Trevor says, "Killing is not murder." Uh, let's see.
08:34:45
Brian AtlasEye for an eye. Yes, you can. It's in the Bible. No, it's illegal. Okay. the Crusades. It's against Catholic teaching.
08:34:56
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. So, I don't know. It's not my wheelhouse. So, I don't I don't know. Um but just even from a secular perspective,
08:35:05
Brian Atlas>> I don't I think that you could be pro death penalty but also pro-life. Like I don't think I don't think >> Well, sure, but I don't think these two
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Emilyare necessarily contradictory. M just saying if you go to any church or place of worship you will meet a whole group of people who have differing opinions on things.
08:35:31
Brian AtlasThou shalt not murder that whole thing, you know. Thou shalt not okay. Uh,
08:35:42
Brian Atlaschildren are innocent. >> Uh, okay. Anyways, I'm just reading the chat here saying >> that's okay.
08:35:52
Brian Atlas>> Thou shalt not kill includes yourself or anyone else. Okay. Uh, let's see here. Uh >> so did you is it just based on other
08:36:04
Kelsey Riskthings that you've seen different instances where abortions have happened or was there something like >> personal in your life? >> You can give a quick answer but I have to move on after this. >> Um it's just experiences from other
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Emilypeople. I've never had an abortion. Um though some people would say I'm evil because I'm on birth control to manage my endometriosis. So >> Okay. My parents were encouraged to abort me. So I I didn't know if you had a personal story or or not. Uh, Emily,
08:36:29
Brian Atlasyou wrote, "Your first date you ever went on. You got a strange feeling from the guy you went on a date with. You didn't have a second one. Turned out your gut feeling was right. He ended up being very mentally ill and homeless later on. Seems like a lot of women here
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Emilyseem to be dating homeless men. I don't >> Well, I think it was due to his It's sad, but yeah, he he really I was 18, he was 25, and we had a class together at IU, and he asked me out. I was shocked.
08:36:54
Brian AtlasUm, and I was like, "Sure." Um, and then >> It's okay. Don't worry about the story. Um, I don't know. Whatever. Don't take it offense, but >> Oh, it's okay. You got time. >> Sometimes I just have to parse when is something is important or not. Um, you dumped your first boyfriend over ice
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Emilycream. Quick story. >> Uh, yes. Well, I had wanted to break up with him. I felt he was kind of rushing things a little quick and there a few other issues. So, I um wanted to break up with him in person. Um, I felt that
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Emilywas the right thing to do, but I really wanted to soften the blow. So, I And I was 19 at the time, so um yeah. >> Okay. So, you went to an ice cream place and then you dumped him there. >> Yes. I thought if he had something that
08:37:31
Emilywas making him if he, you know, when I'm sad I eat ice cream. I see in retrospect I probably ruined that place for him, but at the time I thought it was a good idea. So, I paid for the ice cream, too. So,
08:37:43
Brian Atlas>> failicity. Felicity return. >> Felonicity. Um, let's see. Oh, okay. Uh, cuz I thought you dumped him over ice cream. Oh, well sitting over it, but
08:37:55
Brian Atlas>> like he bought you Rocky Road and you're like, "Fuck you." >> No, no, that's so that's too petty. No. >> Okay. No. >> Uh you you're engaged. It's an age gap
08:38:04
Brian Atlasrelationship. 16 years. So you are uh 32. He is 48. >> Yes. I think he just turned 48 beginning of the month. So >> And you guys have been together how long?
08:38:14
Brian Atlas>> Since 2017. So I think it's eight years now. So you were 24 and he was >> 39. >> Okay. Um you said you have a unique gray
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Emilyarea viewpoint on age gap relationships. What is the gray area view >> context? Um, so cuz my parents I was a little hesitant to tell them about it cuz I knew they'd be worried about me,
08:38:36
Emilybut they quickly like my fiance and I think what helped it go down them adjust to it is that he met me at my job. We
08:38:48
Emilyworked together. I was 24, which I feel like was pretty solid age being an adult. Um, and I pursued him. Um, and it
08:38:58
Emilywasn't like he was my coach in high school. He was my teacher in high school. He was a family friend that knew me since I was like six. He was >> wait.
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EmilyHe He didn't. No, >> he didn't. He didn't. No, I met him when I was in So, no, he they would have not liked him had it been one of those scenarios. But because we were both
08:39:20
Emilyadults, we met at a job and I kind of was the one who initiated things. the um they they were fine with it and I think that's a case the age gap's totally appropriate >> in in that very specific case you're
08:39:33
Emilysaying it's fine but you're saying other age gap relationships not okay >> once again context so if you know it was my high school gym teacher who knew me since I was 12 >> now we're getting into like kind of
08:39:46
Brian Atlasgrooming the person knew them when they were a child that's a different territory here >> that's what I mean let's assume Both people meet when they were both
08:39:57
Brian Atlasadults, but the age gap could be say it could even be less than yours. Let's say cuz you you said 16 year age gap. How about a 20-year-old woman dating a 30-year-old man? >> That's okay. >> Fine with that. >> Yeah.
08:40:10
Brian Atlas>> 35y old man. >> Yeah. >> 18-year-old dating 28-year-old. >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. I think the only time >> it doesn't seem like you have a really major problem with age gaps. like when we're talk like unless you're talking it
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Emilygets into the criminal element then of course that's wrong but if they're both adults it sounds like you don't really have any issues with >> yeah the only time I'm not against it argue with them um you know if they're
08:40:34
Emilylike 40 to 60 years apart I don't disapprove but they may have some challenges cuz we've had some challenges ourselves with for 16 years so >> I think that's fair I think that's fair
08:40:45
Brian Atlasokay so if I dated uh I'm 36 if I dated a 20-year-old you'd be fine with Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Just cur Just curious. Uh okay. Disagree. You say uh we already
08:40:58
Brian Atlastalked about the negative views on feminism, although I don't think you actually were able to site really one of the negative views, but that's whatever.
08:41:06
Brian AtlasUm you say feminism helps men. I I don't think it does, but um we already we dived into that a whole bunch. The feminist
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Brian Atlas>> It's getting late. So, I understand if >> uh well, there's just a few more notes, but um you said you noticed that facts, not feelings, gets brought up frequently on the podcast, but you beg to excuse me, beg to differ. In the real world,
08:41:32
Brian Atlasthere are many instances where feelings will trump facts, and you can attest to this through the work you do. >> Yes. >> So, how so? What specifically? >> Well, we get cases that are severe
08:41:43
Emilydecomposition cases. is it might be someone's loved one who died unexpectedly and no one checked on them for a month. Um, and then we get them in our care and if the their family didn't
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Emilyfind them themselves, like if a coroner or neighbor was the one who notified them, um, we do occasionally get a family who wants to see their loved one again and I have to tell them you can't,
08:42:07
Emilybut that doesn't this usually isn't a good enough answer. They want to know why. And if I wanted to be blunt and be honest, I could say, "Well, your loved ones green, they're bloated, they're covered in maggots, their skin's peeling
08:42:18
Emilyoff." But if I tell a family that in that way, especially that blunt, it's not going to go over well. It really isn't. So, you have to say it in a way
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Emilythat is not going to hurt their feelings. And I could be honest with them, you know, I'm very matter of fact about death in my personal life, and that's how my family is. But um I know
08:42:41
Emilythis job's taught me that a lot of people aren't that way and I've had to really learn that and learn where other people are coming from being a little adverse to death and not wanting to talk about the
08:42:53
Brian Atlasuh pun bare bones of it. >> But um how would this apply? Like how would you relate this to
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Emilythe approach that I take on this podcast? I don't I just know a lot of people just shut anything they don't like down with, well, you're feeling that, so it doesn't count. But there's just a lot of instances out in the real world you're going to have to use some
08:43:16
Brian Atlasdiscretion. Well, I don't know if these two things are the same, but I mean, I I'm not I'm still not entirely sure what you're talking about, but I mean,
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Brian Atlasin the real world, appeals to emotions are it's an although it's a f it's logically can be logically facious, >> it's actually rhetorically super
08:43:37
Brian Atlaseffective. But if we're just looking at pure logic, if we're looking at uh determining truth, then feelings ought
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Brian Atlasto be kind of irrelevant if we're trying to parse truth. >> Yeah. It it just >> But you're you're talking about in your
08:43:57
Brian Atlassituation the example you gave of probably talking to somebody at one of at one of the worst or the worst