$20,000,000 MINIMUM To Date HER?! ACCUSED OF MlSOGYNY?! Brian DEBATES Feminist! | Dating Talk #262
Date: 2025-09-29
Duration: 9h 26m
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Donations/TTS(audience)
SPEAKER_03Bina(guest)
SPEAKER_05Marca(guest)
SPEAKER_06Iris(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Stephanie(guest)
SPEAKER_10Kelsey Risk(guest)
SPEAKER_12Emily(guest)
SPEAKER_13Felicity(audience)
SPEAKER_14Cena(guest)
Key Moments
00:03:30
IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation, education, location
00:14:40
RelationshipRelationship status round. Bina broke up 3 days ago (5th time). Emily engaged 8 years.
00:17:00
Key MomentBina explains her ex was a nepo baby whose father is a famous actor
00:31:40
Key MomentKelsey shares devastating divorce story - husband left saying 'everyone else is living my life for me'
“Met my ex-husband in 2017, married in 2018, and he decided to walk away in 21.”
00:39:40
ControversyEmily criticizes show for rage bait, launches central feminism debate
01:02:00
ControversyCena says she would side with China over Canada/US in hypothetical invasion
01:26:30
ControversyBina claims majority of men are weirdos and creeps
“The majority of men are weirdos, creeps.”
01:51:00
ControversyBina and Marca demand minimum $10-20M yearly husband income
“The minimum is at least like 10 to 20 million.”
01:58:20
Key MomentBina admits to 10 sugar daddies paying $10K/month each
02:17:00
Key MomentBrian proposes $1M bet that Bina/Marca won't make $10M/year in 10 years
02:28:00
QuoteKelsey gives modest $50-60K minimum: 'I understand compounding interest'
03:55:00
ControversyBina claims 50% of men would rape if given the opportunity, walks back to 5-10%
04:59:00
Key MomentBrian rates most of the panel as 'average at best'
06:01:40
Key MomentKelsey delivers powerful Christian message about self-worth referencing Psalms 139
07:51:40
OtherMarca tells harrowing story of being pistol-whipped and carjacked
08:25:50
Key MomentKelsey's heartwarming story of ex asking parents to hold her hand at drive-in theater
“He leans over to my parents and he asked them, 'Can I hold your daughter's hand?'”
09:25:00
OtherShow wrap-up. Brian promises next show October 5th.
Topics Discussed
00:03:30
Guest Introductions
All guests introduce themselves. Notable: Emily the funeral director/embalmer, Kelsey's 3-generation chocolate business.
00:14:40
Relationship Status Round
Bina broke up 3 days ago (5th time). Emily engaged 8 years (16-year age gap). Kelsey divorced after husband left in 2021.
00:31:40
Kelsey's Divorce Story
Ex-husband left saying 'everyone else is living my life for me.' Found in Florida with married 22yo. Told her they were 'never really married.'
00:39:40
Emily vs Brian: Feminism Debate
Emily criticizes show for rage bait. Massive debate on feminism, military draft, voting rights, selective service, hypothetical China invasion.
01:23:20
Bina: Majority of Men Are Creeps
Bina claims majority of men are creeps. Claims 50% would rape if given opportunity (walks back to 5-10%). Brian compares generalization to racism.
01:50:00
Minimum Income Requirements
Bina/Marca: $10-20M. Iris: $100K. Cena: $400K. Stephanie: $1M. Kelsey: $50-60K. Felicity: $150K. Brian proposes $1M bet against Bina/Marca.
01:58:20
Sugar Daddy Romance Scams
Bina admits to 10 sugar daddies paying $10K/month each. Calls it 'finessing' - selling fantasy of interest. Brian calls it a romance scam.
03:51:40
Man vs Bear Debate
Bina picks bear (claims 50% of men would rape). Brian argues picking bear is sexist using race analogy.
04:40:00
Looks Self-Ratings
Bina 8.5, Emily refuses, Marca 8.5, Iris 10, Cena 6, Stephanie 10, Kelsey 5, Felicity 6. Brian says most are 'average at best.'
07:10:00
Body Count Discussion
Marca: ~13. Cena: 3. Stephanie: 3. Kelsey: 1 (ex-husband only). Felicity: 2. Bina refuses (claims monthly reborn virgin).
07:51:40
Marca's Carjacking Story
Marca was pistol-whipped and carjacked in San Fernando Valley. Ex-boyfriend's secret tracker in her car helped police recover it.
08:14:00
Iris Names Abusive Ex (John Moss)
Iris publicly names ex as streamer John Moss (7M TikTok). Gave up modeling to be housewife, used for domestic servitude.
08:28:20
Emily: Catholicism and Abortion
Emily is Catholic but pro-choice. References 10yo Ohio girl who came to Indiana for abortion. 'Cafeteria Catholic' concept.
08:41:40
Facts vs Feelings / Immigration
Emily argues feelings trump facts (funeral director experience). Brian pivots to immigration, Mexico's Article 33, deportation.
09:23:20
Show Wrap-Up
Brian summarizes traditional nuclear family position. Next show October 5th. Asks Cena to stop doing OnlyFans.
Transcript
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Brian AtlasWithout further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So, please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education. Go ahead.
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Bina>> Okay. I'm Bina. I'm 23 and I'm from San Diego, California. I'm
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Brian Atlasa model, DJ, creative director, stylist. >> All right. Um, and any college? Anything like that? >> The world is my college.
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Brian Atlas>> Street smarts, the school of hard knocks. I skipped a couple steps. >> Did you drop out of high school? >> No, I graduated college. >> You You graduated high school. Okay.
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EmilyWhat about you? >> Uh my name's Emily. Um I'm 32 years old. I'm a funeral director and inbalmer and um I received a bachelor's degree from
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EmilyIndiana University in studio art and art history and associates from Vincen's University in funeral science. >> Okay. Gotcha. And you're from >> I'm from Well, I live in Bloomington, Indiana, but I'm originally from
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EmilyJamestown, Indiana. So >> Okay. Is this your first time in California? >> Um, no. I was in LA twice in 2015 and in 2016. So,
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Brian Atlas>> Gotcha. Okay. And the uh funeral directing, inbalming, you What's the >> It's all right.
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Emily>> Uh, do you sell caskets? >> Um, yes. That's part of what we do. That's I wouldn't We're not like salespeople and I don't get a commission for selling them. It's just >> But you have a showroom like for the caskets.
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Emily>> Um we do. We only have we have a smaller showroom though. So we only have corner samples of caskets. Corner samples. And we also have a catalog you can look at. >> What's the most expensive casket that you sell? >> I think it's around $6,000. It's
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Emilymahogany. >> Is that the like Ferrari of caskets? >> Um for us it is. I know um Batesville, which is actually a company out of
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EmilyIndiana that makes caskets, um they have the Prometheian, which is goldplated and has an interior that's velvet and red, but we don't sell. I mean, if someone requested it, also according to the
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EmilyFederal Trade Commission funeral rule, you can buy a casket from anywhere and have it sent to the funeral home you're working with, and that funeral home has to accept it. >> They have to use it. How much is the Prometheian? >> I have no idea, but I hear it's quite a bit. So, >> five figures.
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Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. Gotcha. So, you you do like the inbalming, too. That's where you >> uh like put makeup on the deceased, right? >> Partially.
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Emily>> And you give us like the explain like I'm five breakdown of what inbalming is. So, inbalming is just basically halting the
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Emilydecomposition process so someone can look their best and be viewable for their family. Um, it allows you to have more time with your loved one. Um, and
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Emilyit allows them to kind of look their most optimal in terms of firmness and color. Whereas, if you're uninbalmed and you can view someone, sometimes some people look great uninbalmed, but some people look a lot more pale or they just
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Emilymay not look as lively. And then depending on what kind of body conditions and illnesses or medications you have, um, you could decompose faster than other people. >> Have you seen Six Feet Under? >> I've seen parts. I'm not very fond of
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Emilythe show, but like it. Okay. >> There are a couple episodes I felt like the family handled some situations very badly and they're lucky their customers didn't find out. So, >> Gotcha. How much does it cost to be
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Emilyinbalmed? Um, it varies from funeral home to funeral home, but any funeral home you ask is supposed to present a price list with all their that's another Federal Trade Commission rule, but um I
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Emilythink where I work charges at least I think around $1,200. So, >> and you said there's like there's different things that you can ask for. >> Yes. So, um when you go to a funeral home, according to the Federal Trade
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EmilyCommission, you're supposed to be given a price list if you inquire about any sort of services. Um this is any funeral home anywhere. So >> what what percentage of people would you
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Emilysay opt for the inbalming? >> Um where I work at and also in Indiana. So Indiana is a little more traditional. Um so a lot more people want full
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Emilyfunerals even if they can't necessarily afford it. Um so I'd say it's 60% cremation, probably 40% full traditional
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Brian Atlasimbalming, open casket funeral, burial. >> I see. Okay. And then uh there's obviously I'm assuming the price
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Emilyvaries because people could have like an injury. >> Oh, you know, >> not Oh, for inbalming the price varies.
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EmilyWell, like I don't know if there was a like half the face is missing or >> um we typically won't charge for extra restoration and really funeral homes aren't supposed to charge for if someone
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Emilyhas a disease or something like you couldn't charge extra for COVID. You couldn't charge extra if they have AIDS. Um, now the only like where I work at, if someone passes away and they want to
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Emilyview their uninbalmed loved one before they're cremated, for example, um, if they're autopsied, there is a lot of work that goes into autopsy restoration.
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MarcaSo, um, we do charge extra for that. >> Got it. Okay. What about you? >> Uh, my name is Marca. I'm 23. I make music. Um, I creative, direct. I style a
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Marcalittle bit and then I model on the side. >> All right. Where are you from? >> LA. >> And uh education, any college? >> Um I went to college for a little bit for um I like tried it out for a
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Marcasemester, but it wasn't for me. It was too slow. >> And I Yeah. Um I like I like learning. I like I think I'm very smart.
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Marca>> Okay. But like like the way college works and like the like I wanted to take class the certain classes I wanted to take I had to take like like a bunch of other classes before that to be able to
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Marcatake that and it's just like a waste of time to me to just be taking like classes that I really don't want. >> Sure. >> Yeah. So >> uh let me just have you tilt your mic down a little bit. What about you?
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Iris>> For you. >> Oh um my name's Iris. I am 25. My occupation, I model. And as far as schooling, I have done it on and off, so
00:10:12
Brian AtlasI don't have a degree yet. >> All right. Uh, where are you from? >> Oh, sorry. Galveston, Texas. >> You're from Texas? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did you move here to California or
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Irisjust visiting? >> No, I was um staying in Nevada for about half a year. >> Okay. And you said you were in school. What were you studying? I started with accounting, but then I was like, uh,
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Irisit's a little too much. So, I switched to online culinary, which is actually really cool because I didn't think that you could take cooking classes online. >> Yeah, that's cool, >> right? But, um, yeah, and I'm still sort
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Cenaof in that. It's a take at your own pace type of deal. So, >> pretty cool. I like it. >> All right. What about you? >> Hi, I'm Cena. I'm 19 and I'm an
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Cenainfluencer. here. I'm currently in school for engineering and I'm from Canada. >> What What part of Canada? >> Toronto. >> Toronto. Why'd you say that? Like you're disappointed.
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Brian Atlas>> Cuz I don't Toronto. >> You Okay. And uh you're an influencer. >> Can you be more specific? >> No. >> Why not? >> I'm an influencer. >> Close.
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Brian Atlas>> Close. >> Uh okay. So you do like >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And you influence? >> Yeah. You do food eating videos? >> Yes. >> Stuff like that?
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Stephanie>> Yeah. >> Okay, cool. All right. What about you? >> Hi, my name is Stephanie. I am from LA, specifically the San Frernando Valley. I'm 31 years old. I went to school for
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Stephanieaccounting, and I dropped out the semester I was applying for graduation. And now um I've worked like all different kinds of jobs, but um I like to just gain experience and I do
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Stephaniefreelance accounting and work in property management. >> And you said you dropped out of college? >> Yes. The semester I was applying for graduation. >> And what what were you studying? >> Accounting. >> Oh, accounting. Gotcha. Okay. All right.
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Kelsey RiskWhat about you? >> Hi everyone. My name is Kelsey. I just turned the big 30 this year and I am from southern Indiana. I am a small business owner. My products have been
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Kelsey Riskfeatured on KBC in my town. They kind of jokingly have called me the female version of Willy Wonka because we do deal with chocolates. Um, three generations of family making chocolates. And for schooling, I received my
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Kelsey Riskassociates in business administration back in 2016. I wanted to continue my education and go to IU School of Kelly, which one of the top 10 business schools in the nation. And I walked in there all excited and they're like, "Yeah, that's
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Kelsey Riskgreat, but if you want to be an entrepreneur, we're going to teach theory, so you can actually save your money and we encourage you to go and start your own business and just put that in for equity." Which I really appreciate at that time, you know, because there's always a bad vibe with
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Kelsey Risklike, oh, admissions just want your money. But I was appreciate their thoughtfulness. So, I went ahead and did that with the company. Now I'm back in school and I should be wrapping up. This is my final semester. Get my bachelor's
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Kelsey Riskin business management from Western Governor's University. And I did forget to mention my favorite job that I have. I'm a domestic engineer, aka a mom to a
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Brian Atlasbeautiful six-year-old girl, and she's my pride and joy. >> So sweet. >> All right. You You said there's two kids or one kid or >> one. >> One kid. Okay. >> Mhm. >> Got it. And how how old is she? She's
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Felicitysix. >> Six. Okay, got it. >> Um, I'm Felicity, 19 from Santa Barbara in school for business and I'm Brian's bodyguard.
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Brian Atlas>> It's true. And if you get feisty here, she'll uh What what's the thing about the chocolate? You said like your family makes chocolate. >> Yeah. So, um, at this moment we're
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Kelsey Riskworking on Yeah, mass market. So, we've actually won a couple of national awards. Um, you're not going to currently find us out on the market right now because everything has been taken apart. Um,
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Kelsey Riskwe're no longer manufacturing ourselves. We're looking at co-acking because, uh, fun fact, we actually got approached for a broker dealership in Canada and, uh, we just knew that we couldn't produce
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Kelsey Riskthe amount needed in our facility. So, it was cheaper to go the route with co-packing. So, that's still in the works. It takes a lot of time. these these um contracts do not happen
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Brian Atlasovernight, but we are looking at it and uh hopefully excited to possibly get back on QVC here soon. >> All right, very cool. We're going to go around the table once more. What's your current relationship status? If you're
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Binasingle, how long have you been single and longest relationship you've ever been in? Go ahead. >> Um so I just got out of my longest
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Binarelationship like 3 days ago. Um, so I've been single for 3 days and we were together for 2 years. >> Okay. Single for 3 days.
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Brian Atlas>> Uh, together for three years. >> No, two years. >> Two years. Was that your longest relationship? >> Yes. >> Okay. And two years single for 3 days. Uh, who
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Binabroke up with who? Pretty fresh. >> Um, I broke up with him for like the fifth time. >> Fifth time. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, it's on again, off again. >> I guess you could say that. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04>> What is that? I'm sorry. Hold on. What is that smell? >> Is that from outside? >> Okay. >> Garlic. >> Yeah. It's insane. Sorry. There's like a >> No, it's like No. Yeah. Smells like
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Brian Atlasfood, right? >> There's like the most pungent garlic smell. It's >> It's like It's >> No, it's fine. You can leave it open. You can leave it open. My apologies. Um, okay. So, >> vampires out there. Yeah.
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Brian Atlas>> You broke you broke up with the guy five times. Did he ever break up with you? >> No. >> Okay. So, it was on again, off again. >> Mhm. >> Uh what would be the typical reason for
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Binaone of the breakups or whatever? >> I guess like I needed him and I need him to be more of a man. >> More of a man. >> Yes. And like
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Bina>> was he trans or >> No, he just was not doing the like why am I taking care of things that you should be taking
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Binacare of type of situations. And it's just like I'm no one's mom. I'm no one's life guider. Like I'm here to add
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Binahappiness to your life, not like make or break your happiness. And I don't know, I just felt like I was being sucked of all my life and energy putting it into
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Brian Atlassomeone that was not giving me that in return at all. >> Okay. You said that uh he wasn't doing the things he should be.
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Bina>> What What are those things? >> Um basically just like basic romance. like there was
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Binano romance and it was just very lazy and I was planning everything doing all of these things paying for certain things when it's like
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BinaI'm again no one's mother and it should be equal if not he should be doing more because like hello >> what yeah what are the things he should
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Binahave been doing >> it's small things honestly but I should not be planning all the dinners. I should not be like it was just our two years and nothing was planned. And I was
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Binaasking him like, "Let's go out to dinner. Let's do something." I got him gifts, you know, and then he just like was like, "Oh yeah, yeah, okay. Oh yeah, yeah, okay." I was staying with him for
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Binalike a week because he was going out of town for a while and like we had multiple days to do something for our two years and nothing was done. And it's
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Binajust kind of like why why am I continuing to stay with someone that's making me sad when a thousand other people would do what they're not doing?
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BinaLike I'm wasting my time and I need someone who loves as hard as I do at the end of the day. And that just wasn't happening. >> And um you said you felt like you were
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Binabeing a mom. >> Mhm. >> Like so what were the things that you were doing that was momlike? Um, I was teaching him how to do like Well, first
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Binaof all, he's a Nepo baby. So, that right there, you know, he didn't know how to do a lot of things on his own or take an
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Binalike initiative. And there's not a lot of like leadership skills going on. And I just felt like I was just kind of like the more of the adult
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Binain the relationship. And I need a man that's going to like take charge and take leadership and like be a man and not just depend on me for
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Binaeverything. You know, if anything, it should be equal, but I am no one's like mother. So for me to be like making sure you have this, making sure like did you
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Binado this for yourself? Did you schedule this appointment? Can you cook? Can you clean up? Can you do your own laundry? Like these are things just as an adult that you should be able to do and I
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Binashould not be the one teaching you how to do it cuz I'm not your mom. >> You said he was a Nepo baby. How so? >> He's a Nepo baby. Like he
00:19:53
Brian Atlas>> like a trust fun baby or >> No, his dad is an actor. >> Famous actor. >> Yeah. >> Who? >> No, that I can't say that. >> Uh what movie? Can you tell us the movie?
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Brian Atlas>> Say that. No. All right. Um, okay. So, he's also in the film industry then. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Was he working >> in the industry? >> Um, he could have been,
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Brian Atlas>> but like I said, there's no initiative. >> But, I mean, to be a Nepo baby, you need to derive some certain benefits in said industry if he wasn't working in the industry. >> Yeah. I mean, he's he's about to work on
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Bina>> Is he an actor? >> No, he's a director. >> Your ex-boyfriend director? >> Mhm. How old is he? >> He's 23. So, he's just getting started,
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Binabut it's like also you are you have this nepotism and like all of these resources at your hands and nothing's getting done. And that just shows right there like leadership or like initiative like
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Brian AtlasI need more fire under >> white guy. >> No, >> black guy. >> Mhm. Stop trying to figure out >> my my chat's going to figure it out from there. All right, chat. So, dad's a
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Brian Atlasfamous dad's a famous actor. >> He's 23. He wants He's trying to be a director or whatever. >> Mhm. >> Uh, he's black. I'm assuming the dad's black. I don't I mean, I could
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Brian Atlas>> Maybe the dad's something. I don't know. Who knows? She didn't reveal this. >> Denzel Washington. >> No. >> Okay. Uh, okay. So, all right. He was a Nepo
00:21:27
Brian Atlasbaby, I guess. Um, are you But you know, look, you've only been broken up for three days. You guys have already broken up five times. I I want to give it a good 77.7%
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Binachance that you guys are going to get back together. >> I don't think so because I I need to go travel the world and I need to >> Where you going? Um, well, first of all,
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Biname and my all my friends, uh, we're going to basically be going on like a world tour because we have our friend group and we're about to launch like our friend group and like our whole brand.
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BinaAnd so we're planning on going to London, which one of our friends lives in right now, Barcelona, Jamaica, uh, Costa Rica. My family has like an
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Binaisland there, so we're going there. just like a lot of places that I feel like I need to see. And I just also need to stop being sad. And
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BinaI felt like me being in that relationship, I was sad all the time. And like my friends set the standard for me and my friends treat me amazing and give me like all the love that I need.
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BinaAnd they never make me sad. So I just I'm just, you know, tired of being sad and I'm going to go travel the world. All right. Uh, okay. Maybe we'll dive
00:22:48
Brian Atlasmore into that after we get through everybody's uh, introduction. Was there any infidelity either on his part or yours? >> No. >> Okay. What about you?
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Emily>> Um, I have I'm currently engaged um, and since December and then um, I've been in my relationship with my fiance since
00:23:09
Emily2017. I guess that's eight years. Um, and um, that's been my longest relationship as well. And then prior to that, I think I had a relationship for
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Emilyabout 3 or 4 years. So, um, but I really love my fiance and I'm very excited. So, >> how long have you guys been engaged? >> Um, since December, November. It was kind of informal. So,
00:23:32
Emily>> did you propose? >> No. No. Uh, my fiance did. I was actually very surprised. Um, he was not He's been married before. Um, and he wasn't when we got together, he wasn't keen on the idea of getting married. Um,
00:23:44
Emilyjust cuz it didn't go well the first time around. Um, so I was just kind of I'm I'm pretty laid-back. I I feel like, you know, I'm kind of along for the ride of life. Um, so I wasn't hot to push him
00:23:56
Emilyto do that and he just brought it up and I was like, whoa. And I was very excited. So, um, and so part of my Christmas present last year is we picked out my ring together and, um, is really nice and we don't have a date set or
00:24:09
Emilyanything. Truthfully, I'm much more excited about planning my funeral than my wedding. So, I haven't given my wedding as much thought. So, >> what
00:24:20
Emily>> are you are you uh like planning to >> No, no, no. It's just, you know, we're all going to die at some point. So, the sooner you think about it and leave it open, please >> get your pre-arrangements done, the
00:24:32
Emilybetter and the easier it is on your family. So, I um you know, and also >> I know some women love to be bridezillaas and make the wedding about them, but I'm very much 50/50. So, it's
00:24:44
Emilyjust as much my fiance as it is me. And so, um it's not my wedding, but um you know, my funeral is all about me. So, I'm excited about that.
00:24:54
Marca>> Okay, cool. What about you? Um, I just got out of um a relationship like um two months ago. >> Okay. Who broke up with who?
00:25:05
Marca>> Um it was it was kind of it was me, but it was it was mutual. I was dating my best friend um for like the past year. Um yeah, it
00:25:16
Brian Atlaswas my first girl and girl relationship. >> So I've dated men all my life and then I dated a woman. >> How long was the relationship? You said one year. Mhm. >> Is that your longest relationship? >> No. >> Longest relationship?
00:25:29
Brian Atlas>> Three years. >> Three years. Okay. Uh, were you on and off again with the girl? >> No. >> Okay. So, it was straight for a year. Well, not straight, but you get what I
00:25:42
Marcamean. Do you have a grill? What are those? >> No, but I was going to wear my grill. It's so funny. >> Oh, you should have worn. >> I know. I have it. I should go put it on. I just >> Can we deliver it to you at the table or >> All right. Give her the Give her the grill. >> In my purse. It's the silver purse.
00:25:55
Brian AtlasThey're the grill. Anybody else have a grill that you >> Yes. Not with our grill. I was going to wear it. >> We actually should include like have a grill policy. You have to wear the grill. >> You do. >> Does it impact how you speak though? >> No. It doesn't. Oh, yeah. Get the grill.
00:26:08
Bina>> It does not. >> You have a grill, too. >> I do, but makes me have a lisp. A little bit. >> A bit of a lisp. Okay. Have you guys seen that Trump photo with the grill? >> No. >> Nick, go to Discord.
00:26:20
Brian Atlas>> I posted it. It's in the uh I'm pretty sure I posted in the memes. Is it in the memes tab? Nick, pull that up. >> Memes resources. Memes.
00:26:31
Brian AtlasIt's got a little box. Look at that. >> Yeah, just a little. >> Yeah, just do it now. Okay. Right corner. Double click. >> Yeah. Up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up
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Brian Atlasup up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up device. >> Uh just scroll through them. It's fine. Three. Just do four. No, no, no. Okay. Two. >> There it is. >> I have one and I like
00:26:56
Marca>> switch it to video tab. We might have to do that and put it in my pocket. >> No. >> I literally like I have to have >> All right. Show us the grill. >> Oh, it's just on the bottom.
00:27:06
Marca>> Yeah. I thought Hold on. >> Thank you. >> Hers is Hers is the top. >> It's a gold grill, too. >> It's a gold grill. Yeah. >> You can't Isn't it What's the grill
00:27:18
Marcasupposed to be? Or what's not supposed to be, but what's the most common Gold >> grills are gold. >> Yes. >> Silver like silver or like titanium or gold? >> No. So when you see grills that are like
00:27:30
Marcaa hella white and those are diamond grills like those are >> Yes. Diamond. >> Yes. That that >> that's that's Yeah, that's the next step. But this is like the first step.
00:27:42
Brian Atlas>> You know how much diamond costs? >> Brian had high expectations. >> Yeah. I I thought it was >> a softer metal, right? Isn't that why? >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. Um, that's cool. So, okay. >> Uh, you got the grill. You just broke up
00:27:55
Brian Atlaswith your, I guess, now, well, now ex-girlfriend. >> Um, are you going back? You think you're going to go back to to men now or what do you think? >> Um, it's not going back. I like both. So, whatever catches my eye. >> Okay.
00:28:08
Marca>> Yeah. >> Uh, and do you have a like a preference at all? like you lean more so towards men or >> No, I definitely think it's based off like personality and qualities cuz I'm very much attracted to somebody's mind and mindset.
00:28:23
Iris>> All right. >> Over anything else? >> Sweet. Uh All right. What about you? >> I'm single. >> All right. How long you been single?
00:28:34
Iris>> Probably about It's been a couple weeks now. I'll just say it's been a couple weeks. And my longest relationship was like
00:28:45
Brian Atlas6 years. >> Okay. Uh we have a super chat here from Caligula 200. Why chair one not not work at BK and get paid for her children?
00:28:56
Brian Atlas>> Wait, what? Burger King? >> Wait, you don't have kids? Wait, I'm confused. >> Do you have kids? >> Chair one. >> Why not work at Burger King?
00:29:13
Brian Atlasdoesn't make sense. I >> Oh, wait. Hold on. Well, thank you Caligula. Caligula. Oh my god. Thank you for the super chat. Hide that for a moment.
00:29:25
Donations/TTS>> S donated $200. >> Yo, S, thank you. >> Take a guess at Share One's X. >> Oh no. >> Sean Wayans. >> I feel like that your reaction was kind of a giveaway. >> Uh-oh.
00:29:40
MarcaNo, actually >> it's not Sean. >> Who the [ __ ] is that guy? >> I'm sorry. Who the [ __ ] is that though? >> But why did you gasp? >> Because it's it's sim it's like in that area, but
00:29:52
Brian Atlas>> you're not helping her cause. Thank for the 200. Uh you can pull the the membership. And really quick since we're over here, >> thank you Natty for the membership. Kelly donated or no, you love the
00:30:05
Brian Atlaspodcast. We appreciate you. You bought a hoodie shop. Whatever.com. So guys, if you buy some merch, we'll give you guys a shout out. Show them the link. Shop.Whatever.com. Guys, if you want to
00:30:16
Brian Atlasget yourself some merch, you can include a message, by the way, and uh it'll pop up. So, thank you guys. Okay. Uh single for four weeks. Longest relationship? >> Six years.
00:30:29
Brian Atlas>> All right. How long was the one that ended a week ago? >> Six months. >> Six months. Okay. Who broke who broke up with who? most recent one. [Music]
00:30:42
Iris>> You know what? We'll give it to him. He broke up with me. >> Did you cheat on them? >> Nope. >> Okay. The six-year one. Who broke up with who? >> That actually ended amicably. It was mutual. >> Okay. All right. What about you?
00:30:54
Stephanie>> I'm single. I've been single for one year and my longest was 2 years. >> All right. What about you? >> I'm single for about 2 years now. And my
00:31:05
Stephanielongest relationship was three years. >> Uh, sorry, can you repeat that? >> I'm single. Uh, my longest relationship was for 3 years and I've been single for the last two years.
00:31:18
Stephanie>> All right. The one that ended two years ago. Was that the three-year one? >> Yes. >> Who broke up with who? >> I broke up with him. >> Why is that?
00:31:28
StephanieI broke up with him because of a message and phone call I found in his phone. >> Nice. Good times. Good times. Um,
00:31:40
Stephanieso he was cheating on you essentially. >> There was no hardcore evidence, but it was enough for me to uh decide what I didn't want in my future. Period.
00:31:49
Kelsey Risk>> Okay, got it. What about you? Met my ex-husband in 2017, married in 2018,
00:31:58
Kelsey Riskand he decided to walk away in 21, and uh we divorced last October. Sorry, last October. So, it'll be a year next month
00:32:10
Kelsey Riskand been single. That was my one and only. No other dates, no nothing before or after him. Just my one man. And you guys uh were married for how long? Four
00:32:22
Kelsey Riskyears. >> So we married in 2018 until 2024. So what is that? Is that 6 years? >> But when did you separate? >> Uh separated in 21. >> 21. >> Mhm.
00:32:34
Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> So separated but still legally married. >> 3 years to get divorced. >> Mhm. Were you um was there any sort of rekindling between the separation and
00:32:46
Kelsey Riskthe divorce or was it 100% off from the point of separation? >> I think that at the beginning there was this um kind of up and down where it's
00:32:57
Kelsey Risklike no I want you but I want my own life, my my freedom, do what I want. And then there was, well, I'm still holding on because sometimes people I've heard
00:33:08
Kelsey Riskstories from others and people getting back together where it's like sometimes you have to go experience is the grass really greener on the other side or not. While you're out doing that, I'll pray for you. I'm holding down the fort and
00:33:19
Kelsey RiskI'm raising our daughter. And um things revealed themselves over time. I didn't have to, you know, hire a private detective or anything. It's just like you let things run its course.
00:33:30
Kelsey RiskEverything will be revealed in time. And if not, that's okay, too. You don't need a why behind everything. And so it it came to the point where uh we had a
00:33:41
Kelsey Riskphone call and he informed me where he stood in 2023. And then in 2024, the divorce was finalized. >> Okay. Uh how long were you dating before
00:33:52
Kelsey Riskyou were married? >> So let's see here. 2017. Uh beginning part like see we met in February. got engaged um near the end of
00:34:05
Kelsey RiskAugust. Had a really cute beach proposal, like the moonlight, everything. It was so adorable. Heart in the sand with little rose petals and seashells. Uh married June of 2018. So,
00:34:16
Kelsey Riskwe'd been together for a little over a year and a half before we got married. >> I see. Okay. Uh and you initiated the divorce.
00:34:27
Kelsey Risk>> No, he he did. Well, let me let me pause here. The legal separation that was from me and then the divorce um he tried to
00:34:39
Kelsey Riskgo and file divorce in a different county, but because legal separation was in motion, it needs to be done in the same county that it's initiated. Um so when the lawyer called me and said, "Hey, did you know this happened?" I
00:34:51
Kelsey Risksaid, "No, I didn't." He said, "Well, what do you want to do?" And I just paused for a second and then I said, "Let's give him what he wants. That's his action. That's what he's saying. So,
00:35:03
Kelsey Riskwe're going to go that route." So, then it got turned into a dissolution of marriage. >> Okay. Got it. And uh
00:35:13
Kelsey Riskwhat uh briefly if you can, what what precipitated the breakup of the relationship? >> That is a good question. in some of the
00:35:24
Kelsey Riskthings I don't honestly have an answer to. I'm I'm still in it. I don't know. But I have heard yourself and Andrew and
00:35:33
Kelsey Riskother men um say on podcasts and just in my personal life, men are simple. When they say what it is that's on their mind, they say it, they mean it. So, I
00:35:44
Kelsey Riskhave to go based on his wording. And his words to me that I know regarding our situation was um everyone else is living
00:35:53
Kelsey Riskmy life for me. I want my freedom. And then as it progressed um through the years it ended up with um him just saying we were never really married and
00:36:05
Kelsey RiskI'm never ever coming back. So I think just in saying that without indulging too much. I mean, those were the words said and I have to take him at his word
00:36:18
Brian Atlasfor it. >> Um, and based off of your notes, I if I recall, >> he was the first guy you were ever with. >> Mhm. Yep. Okay. >> That was my one and only. >> When did you guys meet? At what age? How
00:36:30
Kelsey Riskold were you? >> Oh goodness. Let's see. 2017. So, I was >> 22 23.
00:36:39
Brian Atlas>> Uh, 21 going to turn 22. >> Okay. Gotcha. Um, and so he he cheated
00:36:47
Kelsey Riskon you. Is that correct? >> There there was infidelity involved. >> Okay. And Oh, my my question. Um, >> he was the first guy you were ever with, correct? You ever dated?
00:37:02
Kelsey Risk>> Nope. >> What's that? >> Nope. >> Or wait. No. >> No. Never dated prior. Like I dated him. Yes. Obviously, I did not go out on a
00:37:12
Kelsey Riskdate with other men and I haven't been on a date since our divorce. >> But before him, you didn't even date. >> No. >> No. As in That's correct. >> I'm apologize. No. Okay.
00:37:25
Kelsey Risk>> Yes, that's correct. I'm sorry, Brian. Yes. I did not go on dates. My >> So, he you when you got married, you were a virgin? >> Yes.
00:37:34
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Gotcha. And you've been divorced or separated for a little bit. Uh, have you been on any dates since? >> Nope. >> No. No dates? >> No dates? No
00:37:46
Kelsey Risk>> dating apps? Anything like that? >> No. No. No one's asked me out on a date, Brian. >> Can you believe it? I'm kidding. I'm I'm kidding. Uh, >> and so,
00:37:57
Brian Atlasare you uh you're Christian, right? Yes. >> What denomination? >> Non-denominational. >> Anybody else? You're Christian? >> Yes. >> You're a Christian? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Are you Christian? You're wearing a cross. So,
00:38:08
Iris>> oh, I need this for protection for my last relationship.
00:38:15
Iris>> I grew up in the church. Yes. But baby, I was going through hell. I'm sorry to say it, but
00:38:24
Brian Atlas>> uh Okay. All right. And um so just uh you and her. Okay. Nobody else Christian. What's your denomination?
00:38:34
Brian Atlas>> Catholic. >> Catholic. Okay. Um, all right. So, as far as like future dating for you, >> are you um
00:38:46
Brian Atlasare you waiting in you going to wait until marriage for the next guy or what are you thinking? >> I'm sorry, Brian. Can you repeat that again? I I didn't hear you. I'm sorry. >> Are you going to be waiting until marriage uh for the next guy?
00:38:58
Kelsey Risk>> Oh, absolutely. >> Okay. Gotcha. to for carnal knowledge. You're you're going to wait. >> I'm going to wait to have Quitus and
00:39:08
Kelsey Risk>> Quitus. Thankfully, >> if if I get married again, you know, obviously there has to be someone um who just says, you know what, I I want to do life with you and I'm all in. >> Okay. All right, Felicity, what about
00:39:22
Brian Atlasyou? >> Single for a few months now. Longest relationship was two years. >> All right. Rock and roll. Thank you everybody for sharing your relationship
00:39:31
Brian Atlasstatus. We're going to dive into the uh some of the pre-show notes here that we have starting with you. >> Okay. >> Uh you had some criticisms
00:39:42
Brian Atlasfor the show for me. I'm happy to dive into them. Uh let me just get those pulled up here and we'll kind of go one by one. So,
00:39:54
Brian Atlasuh, you say that I have some rather negative views on feminism, and that's a shame. You believe there's many aspects of feminism that help men as well. You
00:40:04
Brian Atlassay that I tend to book largely one type of woman that can make all women a certain way, even though that's one small subsection of the female population. >> You have been getting better, though. >> I'm not sure if this is to make women
00:40:16
Brian Atlaslook bad or he simply enjoys talking to women who are only fans models. Uh, okay. Couple different things there. I'll just The easiest one to dispel
00:40:26
Brian Atlaswould be the Only Fans thing. So, uh, who here has Only Fans? Anybody here a sex worker? >> Nope. >> Okay. Anybody a strip? Ever been a stripper? >> No. >> Oh, well. >> I've danced before.
00:40:40
Brian Atlas>> You You stripped >> for like a year and a half. >> When? >> Um, it was years ago. >> Like when you're in your early cuz you're 31, right? Mhm. >> So like early 20s.
00:40:51
Brian Atlas>> Uh like mid20s. >> Okay. Did you tr what's the term? >> Trick. >> Isn't that what that's what guys do? >> Yeah. >> Uh were you uh were you what what's the [ __ ]
00:41:02
Stephanie>> sugar baby >> other term for it? Whatever. Uh any escorting anything like that? >> Uh no. So I was very strict on um like
00:41:14
Stephanieit was about the dancing. Um, and I saw that it was an environment where the majority of the women were kind of like looking for a jackpot um, to kind of get
00:41:25
Stephaniemoney spent on them by like one person. >> Um, ultimately I don't think like it was an environment where I personally was comfortable. I didn't see myself making friends. I didn't really see myself making the connections I wanted in my life. So,
00:41:38
Brian Atlas>> how long were you dancing for? >> A year. >> Okay. So, it's just seeing a year at the table. All right. So, I mean, uh, this is a criticism we often get. Oh, Brian, you bring on like ex type of women. You
00:41:51
Brian Atlasbring on these like sex workers, only fans girls. We've done the we've looked at the statistics for, you know, thorough statistics of who we bring on. It's like 15% of all the guests we've
00:42:02
Brian Atlasever had have done of. Uh, and then, for example, on this panel, I mean, the currently only active OF girl is over there. So, um, yeah,
00:42:14
Brian Atlas>> your newer episodes are getting a lot more different people. I like that. >> It's varied. It's varied. Yes. Sure. There's been some episodes where it's like almost all the girls do OF, and then there's episodes where none of the
00:42:25
Brian Atlaspeople on the panel do OF. So, it varies from show to show, but overall, the average of the guests we have on, it's like 15% if you were to average it out.
00:42:37
Brian Atlas>> So, I kind of reject this criticism. Most of our guests don't do Only Fans. Um, and the thing is it's an open invitation for pretty much anyone. One of what
00:42:48
Brian Atlasoftentimes people will levy this criticism of the show and say, "Oh, Brian, you should bring on smart women parenthesis like me. I would run circles around you, blah
00:42:59
Brian Atlasblah blah." And instead of, you know, talking [ __ ] back or whatever, we almost always >> will politely um we'll politely offer them an
00:43:10
Brian Atlasinvitation. Almost 99% of the time, people who make any criticisms of our guest selection are complete cowards. And despite a
00:43:20
Brian Atlaspolite invitation, they almost always uh are all bark and no bite. So, um, ultimately I would just say we've had
00:43:32
Brian Atlasplenty of smart, intelligent women on the show. Any anybody is welcome to come on the show, but oftent times people talk a big
00:43:42
Brian Atlasgame online, but when we actually extend that invitation, that challenge for them to step up, they they are cowards. So, I don't know if that thoroughly addresses your point or if you have anything you'd
00:43:54
Emilylike to contend with there. >> Uh, no. I think yeah, you kind of said your piece about the only fans models. And I do agree you're getting a lot more
00:44:04
Emilydifferent people on here. Um, I think the only other thing I forgot in my list of criticisms was sometimes I feel like because this is a dating podcast and kind of talking about how stressful it
00:44:16
Emilyis for people, especially men, to find someone to date, especially with dating apps and I I'm glad I've never had to do Tinder because it's all looks based. But um I feel like sometimes instead of
00:44:29
Emilygetting to the root of the problem or having meaningful discussion, sometimes it turns a little rage batty, which is good for viewership cuz that's actually how I discovered this show. Um YouTube
00:44:39
Emilyalgorithm loves this podcast. I get it recommended to me a lot. And then I also think my fiance, he loves YouTube shorts and they get on his a lot and then I saw
00:44:49
Emilythem like what is this? So um that's how I kind of discovered the show. But um I you know people will always have different views and I you can't change someone's mind if they're very set in
00:45:00
Emilytheir ways. But I think we can have meaningful discussions and not have to make fun of people or >> Yeah. get to the actual criticism though. So what's the rage bait? Well,
00:45:11
Emilysome of the videos and shorts I've seen it's been making fun of and then they usually have titles like libtard feminist gets destroyed or um >> I don't think we use the term libtard
00:45:23
Brian Atlasbut yeah sure we use destroy Charlie Kirk destroys >> uh you know Gen Z feminist >> rage batty tiles or just um there's clips where people >> what let's just define our terms here
00:45:35
Emilywhat's rage bait >> it's kind of stooping to Look, it's not addressing your debate opponent as like a person that might be of equal measure
00:45:47
Emilyand being able to see them as a person. You're just like, "Ah, look at that liberal over there. I humiliated him." And >> well, I think, hold on, there there is a bit of a differentiation we can make
00:45:58
Brian Atlashere. So, there's the way a clip is titled after the fact, but then when you're actually sitting there in person, I don't think there's any, at least to that degree, any sort of dehumanization. Obviously, you're trying to make
00:46:10
Brian Atlascompelling titles that are interesting that'll make people want to watch them, but I don't think I wouldn't categorize them as clickbait in so far as they accurately describe what is actually incur occurring in the clip. So, if you
00:46:22
Brian Atlaswant to call that clickbait or rage bait or whatever, if it is the case from my perspective, and seems like a lot of people agree with the clips. If it is the case that Andrew Wilson, Charlie
00:46:33
Brian AtlasKirk, Brian Atlas, Michael Nolles, Candace Owens destroys uh raging feminist liberal woman and that's what happens in the clip. I don't really think that that's necessarily rage bait
00:46:44
Brian Atlasor clickbait, but um in any case, typically when the person's at the table, we're not being particularly uh typically not being particularly uh what's the term for it?
00:46:56
Brian Atlas>> Um >> aggro towards them, I guess. I mean, I usually just match energy, but uh again, I'm What is rage baiting about it, I guess? >> Well, it's not just that, like
00:47:08
Emilydifferences of opinions, but like for example, and one thing I think that's bothered me about this particular podcast is it going into physical appearances, and I understand some of your >> Wait, wait, but I I have that in the
00:47:21
Emilynotes. I'm happy to dive into that, >> but >> I >> I want to get to that. I'll get to that one later, >> but I'm still trying to get the what is the rage bait thing. >> Well, that's kind of was my segue, but
00:47:34
Brian Atlasjust the uh >> we'll get we'll get to that. I'll bring it back to to this though. You said that Brian has some rather negative views on feminism, and that's a shame. >> Uh you said that there's many aspects of
00:47:45
Emilyfeminism that help men as well. So, what are my negative views on feminism? Well, um, you don't seem to like the idea, and it's not just you, it's Andrew. Um,
00:47:58
Emily>> okay. Well, he's not here, so >> I know. But one of the thing Andrew likes to say is women shouldn't vote. And, you know, I think that really goes back on the history of suffragettes here
00:48:07
Emilyin the US, like Maywight, Suall, Catty Stanton. And I just, you know, I mean, >> it's rage bay. I mean, I don't think a whole group of people should lose their constitutional right to vote just
00:48:19
Emilybecause he doesn't like that women can vote. He thinks it's ruining the country. And that is kind of rage bay because I think the majority of people you ask, like I live in Indiana, it's pretty conservative. My dad's very conservative Catholic. If you ask my
00:48:32
Emilydad, hey, you think your daughter should lose her ability to vote because women make bad decisions? He'd be like, no. And I think a lot of conservatives are more >> Well, hold on. Wait, hold on. That's not
00:48:42
Brian Atlasreally a compelling very compelling argument. If I ask my father X, like that wouldn't be a really strong basis or foundation for argumentation. Like for example, like if I were to say,
00:48:53
Brian Atlaswell, my dad says like we should just like uh you know, nuke the entire planet. Like that's not a good foundation for argumentation. Let me quickly address this. So Andrew's position on I have a different position
00:49:05
Brian Atlasthan Andrew. Andrew is not here. So I don't think that uh I don't share that position. Like I'm I'm mostly fine with women voting. I am fine with >> Let me preface it. Let let me frame this
00:49:18
Brian Atlasbetter. >> Please. >> I have criticisms of the female vote in so far as this. Women were able to secure. So women should maintain the
00:49:28
Brian Atlasvote, but what I'm saying is women should should have the corresponding duties that men have. So, uh, feminists were able to secure the vote for women
00:49:39
Brian Atlaswithout the corresponding duties that men had, uh, had to carry for them to get to the vote. So, that'd be forced military conscription. Women
00:49:50
Brian Atlasfor a 100 plus years have had the right to vote without any duty to this country. Women have no duties to this country. Men have duties. That's an inequality. I'm not saying we should take away women's right to vote. I'm
00:50:02
Brian Atlassaying we need to equalize the duties that men and women have to this country. I'll let you guys come in in just a sec. So yes, I'm fine. I don't think we should repeal the 19th. What I would like to see though is a equality of duty
00:50:14
Brian Atlasbetween men and women. As far as Andrew's position is concerned, he takes a bit. Look, I I'm not here to defend Andrew's position. He's not here. But my understanding of it is it's not simply
00:50:25
Brian Atlaslike he thinks women suck and they shouldn't vote. He's just saying almost my position. Well, women don't have any duties, so why should they have the right to send men to war to die when they would never be forced to be in that
00:50:39
Brian Atlasposition? >> I don't think we should send people to war. I don't like men being conscripted. >> Wow. There should never be murder and nobody should lie and nobody should cheat. These are empty platitudes. But realistically, if we're if we're
00:50:52
Brian Atlasoperating in reality, I don't think there should be, okay, there should just be world peace in perpetuity and nobody should ever have hurt feelings ever. That's great. Realistically though, there's other countries that are
00:51:03
Brian Atlasbelligerent to the United States and one day it's conceivable we're going to be involved. I mean, well, there are currently ongoing wars, not not really with massive United States involvement,
00:51:14
Brian Atlasbut it's conceivable even if you're a peaceable nation, a peaceable people, that there's outside nations and countries that are aggressive and belligerent and they want what you have and they will forcefully take it. So
00:51:27
Brian Atlaseven if you're a peaceable people, you need a you need a defense. You need to be able be able to defend yourself with military. So there will always be uh there will always be military. There'll always be war. >> Well, I don't mind there being a
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Emilymilitary. I'm just saying the draft. I've met veterans both in Vietnam and then I had a neighbor who fought in World War II and they were drafted and >> a lot of them like my neighbor, he
00:51:51
Emilyreally did not want to be part of the war. He had he was in his 80s by the time I met him. So he had a >> didn't really want to talk about PTSD. That wasn't really something in his
00:52:02
Emilyvocabulary, but >> he just it gave him a lot of trauma. And that's how I've talked to a lot of people who I've met like in Vietnam who've had a lot of PTSD from that. You know, they went against their will and I
00:52:15
Emilydon't think they got a lot of compensation for that. You know, I I talked to a lot of veterans that they have trouble with the VA for healthcare. >> Okay. So, >> and I just think that, you know, you shouldn't force people. You should
00:52:28
Emilythere's a lot of people who do want to volunteer for the military and that's great, but you know, I don't like the draft for people, especially kids like my neighbor who was in World War II. He
00:52:39
Emilywas like just turned 18. He was a kid from Indiana who hadn't really traveled outside the state prior to that and he got shipped off to Germany. And that was really hard on him. I admire I thank him for his service, but he always told me the best day of his life was when he got
00:52:52
Brian Atlasout of the army. >> Right. But so the the question at hand isn't whether selective service, the draft, forced military conscription is right or wrong. The question is whether
00:53:03
Brian Atlasor not being forced to go to war should be something that is genderneutral. So currently, as it stands under law, only men are subject to forced military
00:53:14
Brian Atlasconscription. It's 2025. women have had the vote for over a hundred years. I think that they should be subject to forced military conscription. If from a
00:53:24
Brian AtlasI mean, you would have to agree given you're a feminist uh that this would be equality between men and women. You're shaking your head. Why is that? >> Because we're not as strong as men are.
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MarcaAnd we birth kids and we birth. We don't >> Are they Wait, wait, wait. So, >> we don't give birth like that's something that we were given when we were born. Okay. We That's what we do. We birth. So that's a big thing that we do. We You were born because of a woman. Like there you wouldn't be here without
00:53:49
Marcaa woman. >> But we don't but biologically we don't share the same traits. And you know this >> because you've tal you've talked about it before in your absolutely. So >> why would you send a woman if men are
00:54:02
Marcastronger and are and biologically stronger and not like >> Yeah, you're right. >> So that makes sense. And then women have their part with giving birth and have that's a huge thing we do that men don't have to go through periods being a woman
00:54:15
Brian Atlasin general. >> Who here who here show of hands who here has kids? >> So just curious. I'm a nanny. >> Should every That's great. You >> So I I take care of kids all all time. >> So she has a child. Perhaps we can
00:54:25
Brian Atlasexempt her. Uh but none of y'all have any children and we have multiple We have uh You're 32, you're 31. You don't have kids. Should we exempt them from military conscription? again. She's 30
00:54:36
Brian Atlasand we're 23. >> Okay. You guys are military age. Why? You guys don't have kids. So, >> our country would lose if women ran >> I disagree. Women can absolutely. Now, I
00:54:49
Brian Atlasdon't think women should be involved in frontline combat, but women can be part of the war effort >> for sure. And my understanding is in order to have one person in direct
00:54:58
Brian Atlascombat, it takes 10 other soldiers or people in the military in like support roles to be able to field one combat soldier. So you can be in the kitchen in the military. You can be doing
00:55:10
Binaadministration work. You can be doing whatever the the support roles women are capable of doing. >> It should be a choice for women. >> Why would it why should it have to be a choice for the women? So, if everyone
00:55:21
Binajust goes into the military, then we're literally who's going to have children and then we're going to go. >> Not everybody, but not all men would get drafted in wartime,
00:55:33
Bina>> right? But you're saying like women don't have duties. Our duties is to literally raise civilization. >> You don't, but it's not a duty. >> It is unless crackheads running around motherless.
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Brian Atlas>> Well, hold on. So, it's not a No, no. It's not a duty in the same way that men have a duty. So for example, is there and point me to actually any country in
00:55:55
Brian Atlasthe world where women can be forced by the government to have children? >> Can women in the United States be forced
00:56:06
Marca>> against their will to have children? >> Well, it I don't know what state in what states this where you get raped about your kid, >> but women do have to Yeah. And some say they do. >> That's not That's not a comparison.
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Brian Atlas>> No, it is. >> No, because No, because then the entailment would have to be that the government forces women to be raped. >> That's That's what That's how I read it because why would I have to keep a kid that I got raped from?
00:56:32
Brian Atlas>> That makes no sense. >> Hold on. That wouldn't be forcing a rape. It'd be forcing the birth of a kid from rape. But you're getting off of You're You're completely off track here. We're not having a conversation about
00:56:42
Brian Atlasabortion. We're having a conversation about the government forcing women to have children. That would the entailment there wouldn't be well you must >> force so you have you're forced to have
00:56:54
Stephaniethat child. >> That's not a that's kind of an incoherent compar comparison. >> I don't think so. >> Are you saying in the way where if there
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Stephaniewas a war the duty for men would be for them to get drafted and the duty for women would be that they have to birth a child? Well, what I'm saying is you guys are
00:57:14
Brian Atlassaying women have duties and I'm saying they don't. So men, the government can force you to go to war if it wants to. The government can and you guys are
00:57:26
Brian Atlaswelcome to look up these videos. You can see them in Ukraine. You have military police abducting men in the streets, abducting them in the streets, throwing them in the van, and then they send ship