$20,000,000 MINIMUM To Date HER?! ACCUSED OF MlSOGYNY?! Brian DEBATES Feminist! | Dating Talk #262

Date: 2025-09-29
Duration: 9h 26m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Donations/TTS(audience)
SPEAKER_03Bina(guest)
SPEAKER_05Marca(guest)
SPEAKER_06Iris(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Stephanie(guest)
SPEAKER_10Kelsey Risk(guest)
SPEAKER_12Emily(guest)
SPEAKER_13Felicity(audience)
SPEAKER_14Cena(guest)

Key Moments

00:03:30
IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation, education, location
00:14:40
RelationshipRelationship status round. Bina broke up 3 days ago (5th time). Emily engaged 8 years.
00:17:00
Key MomentBina explains her ex was a nepo baby whose father is a famous actor
00:31:40
Key MomentKelsey shares devastating divorce story - husband left saying 'everyone else is living my life for me'

Met my ex-husband in 2017, married in 2018, and he decided to walk away in 21.

00:39:40
ControversyEmily criticizes show for rage bait, launches central feminism debate
01:02:00
ControversyCena says she would side with China over Canada/US in hypothetical invasion
01:26:30
ControversyBina claims majority of men are weirdos and creeps

The majority of men are weirdos, creeps.

01:51:00
ControversyBina and Marca demand minimum $10-20M yearly husband income

The minimum is at least like 10 to 20 million.

01:58:20
Key MomentBina admits to 10 sugar daddies paying $10K/month each
02:17:00
Key MomentBrian proposes $1M bet that Bina/Marca won't make $10M/year in 10 years
02:28:00
QuoteKelsey gives modest $50-60K minimum: 'I understand compounding interest'
03:55:00
ControversyBina claims 50% of men would rape if given the opportunity, walks back to 5-10%
04:59:00
Key MomentBrian rates most of the panel as 'average at best'
06:01:40
Key MomentKelsey delivers powerful Christian message about self-worth referencing Psalms 139
07:51:40
OtherMarca tells harrowing story of being pistol-whipped and carjacked
08:25:50
Key MomentKelsey's heartwarming story of ex asking parents to hold her hand at drive-in theater

He leans over to my parents and he asked them, 'Can I hold your daughter's hand?'

09:25:00
OtherShow wrap-up. Brian promises next show October 5th.

Topics Discussed

00:03:30
Guest Introductions

All guests introduce themselves. Notable: Emily the funeral director/embalmer, Kelsey's 3-generation chocolate business.

00:14:40
Relationship Status Round

Bina broke up 3 days ago (5th time). Emily engaged 8 years (16-year age gap). Kelsey divorced after husband left in 2021.

00:31:40
Kelsey's Divorce Story

Ex-husband left saying 'everyone else is living my life for me.' Found in Florida with married 22yo. Told her they were 'never really married.'

00:39:40
Emily vs Brian: Feminism Debate

Emily criticizes show for rage bait. Massive debate on feminism, military draft, voting rights, selective service, hypothetical China invasion.

01:23:20
Bina: Majority of Men Are Creeps

Bina claims majority of men are creeps. Claims 50% would rape if given opportunity (walks back to 5-10%). Brian compares generalization to racism.

01:50:00
Minimum Income Requirements

Bina/Marca: $10-20M. Iris: $100K. Cena: $400K. Stephanie: $1M. Kelsey: $50-60K. Felicity: $150K. Brian proposes $1M bet against Bina/Marca.

01:58:20
Sugar Daddy Romance Scams

Bina admits to 10 sugar daddies paying $10K/month each. Calls it 'finessing' - selling fantasy of interest. Brian calls it a romance scam.

03:51:40
Man vs Bear Debate

Bina picks bear (claims 50% of men would rape). Brian argues picking bear is sexist using race analogy.

04:40:00
Looks Self-Ratings

Bina 8.5, Emily refuses, Marca 8.5, Iris 10, Cena 6, Stephanie 10, Kelsey 5, Felicity 6. Brian says most are 'average at best.'

07:10:00
Body Count Discussion

Marca: ~13. Cena: 3. Stephanie: 3. Kelsey: 1 (ex-husband only). Felicity: 2. Bina refuses (claims monthly reborn virgin).

07:51:40
Marca's Carjacking Story

Marca was pistol-whipped and carjacked in San Fernando Valley. Ex-boyfriend's secret tracker in her car helped police recover it.

08:14:00
Iris Names Abusive Ex (John Moss)

Iris publicly names ex as streamer John Moss (7M TikTok). Gave up modeling to be housewife, used for domestic servitude.

08:28:20
Emily: Catholicism and Abortion

Emily is Catholic but pro-choice. References 10yo Ohio girl who came to Indiana for abortion. 'Cafeteria Catholic' concept.

08:41:40
Facts vs Feelings / Immigration

Emily argues feelings trump facts (funeral director experience). Brian pivots to immigration, Mexico's Article 33, deportation.

09:23:20
Show Wrap-Up

Brian summarizes traditional nuclear family position. Next show October 5th. Asks Cena to stop doing OnlyFans.

Transcript

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03:51:13
Felicity>> Okay. >> This just I just what I like. >> That's fine. I mean, I don't know how many men are over or 6 foot plus and >> that's why I said that. I mean, I like girls, too. >> Oh, the girl can be 6'. >> No, the girl can be short. The girl
03:51:25
Iriscould be The She could be short. >> Like, how short? >> Um, like my height? >> Shorter? >> No. >> Okay. Okay. What about you? >> I'm 53 and almost 5'4. Um, at least
03:51:38
Cenashe's a little bit taller than me. >> 55? >> Yeah, it'll work. >> I mean, okay. What about you? >> I'm 53. I would say like 5'7 so I can wear heels.
03:51:52
Stephanie>> Okay. >> What about you? >> I'm 5'7. Um I did date two guys that were 5'7. Um it wasn't always like the best thing, but uh that's not what
03:52:03
Kelsey Riskmatters to me most. >> So what's the minimum? 5'7. >> Yeah, at least my height. 5'7. >> Okay. What about you? >> I'm 5'8 and I would say the minimum is
03:52:14
Felicity5'8. >> Okay. I'm 5'5 and 1/2. I think 5'9 is the lowest I would go cuz I already feel tall. I'm like, I need someone to >> Yeah.
03:52:26
Felicity>> Make me feel small. Um Oh. Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike? >> A bear. >> Okay. Why?
03:52:38
BinaWell, first I know how to like handle a bear cuz like I just am super like into nature and all that stuff. So, I can handle a bear. I know what to do to not
03:52:50
Binaget attacked. And I don't know, like if I have a gun, like, you know, at least I could shoot them the bear or something worst case. Um, and a man, I just am the first thing
03:53:03
Binathat's going to come into my brain is, is he going to rape me or kill me? >> You don't think the bear would eat you? Again, I know how to like handle a bear and not have it come and attack a bear like I don't know. How would you handle
03:53:15
Felicitya bear? Assuming you don't have a gun. You're just going on a hike. I mean, do you typically carry guns on you when you hike? >> Yes. If I'm going in like a rural area, >> do you have a license for that? >> I go with my family. >> So, no, you don't have a license for
03:53:29
Kelsey Riskthat? >> No. >> So, how would you handle a bear? How would you handle a bear then? If you don't have a license, you're by yourself on this hypothetical hike. >> Well, [ __ ] it. I'm just also going to go with the bear. If I don't have a gun, I'm still going to choose the bear cuz I
03:53:43
Felicityknow how. >> Well, how would you handle the bear though? You said aside from >> You just have to like be really big, make yourself big, but also move small or slow. >> Do you know like what you do for the
03:53:55
Binadifferent bears? Cuz you know there's different bears. Like you do different things for different bears. Do you know? >> Just the grizzly bears. I don't really hike anywhere else that would have different types of >> So like it's just completely random. I
03:54:07
Marcadon't It's not really based on location. So say you like crossed a polar bear. What would you do then? >> Oh my god. I would never. But I would be crazy. They are crazy. >> A polar bear. >> Are you going to scare off the polar bear? You think the polar bear is going
03:54:21
Binato be scared of you? >> He's going to eat me. >> You're How tall are you? 5'5. >> I don't know. I lowkey would still pick the bear. Like I just feel like I would still pick the bear. I think the
03:54:31
Felicityquestion is more like would you rather likely get eaten alive or >> bears will pass a man >> because bears they they will attack you. >> They won't always attack you.
03:54:43
Bina>> Not always. If you >> I've come across bears before with my family and we were fine. >> Just leave you alone if you don't [ __ ] with them. Like >> No, we made noise. We I think it was a black bear. We were like making hella noise with pants and the bear ran off
03:54:56
Felicitybecause supposedly that's what you're supposed to do with black bears. Polar bear is not going to leave you alone. A brown bear is not going to leave you alone. A black bear you can scare.
03:55:06
Bina>> Okay. A polar bear. Um, >> does it change if it's in an elevator? >> Um, >> an elevator. >> Yeah. Like >> a bear in an elevator. >> A man or bear? >> Yes. >> Okay. What would
03:55:18
Bina>> I guess I could I have more of a chance of killing a man than a bear. So, yeah. A man. >> But why do you think you have to kill him or >> um because he I just There's a chance. There's a high chance that he'll want to
03:55:30
Felicityrape or kill me. >> What do you think the chance is? >> 50/50. >> So, do you think like 50% of men you walk by on the street want to sexually assault you or kill you? >> Yes.
03:55:42
Bina>> I don't know about kill me, >> but um Yes. Yes, I do. >> So, you think that >> but the way they look at me and talk to me? Yes. >> Are murderers and
03:55:53
Bina>> I don't know about murder. I don't know about murder, but definitely 50% of men are rapists is what you're saying >> low key. Yes. >> And murderers.
03:56:05
Felicity>> Not murder. >> So, one of the two. So, 25% are murderers and 25% are rapists. So, do you think one of your brothers is possibly like wants to murder or rape a girl? >> No, because we raise them right.
03:56:19
Bina>> How do you >> But a lot of men are not raised right. Like parents in America are very just ignorant and gullible and like they don't even think to maybe have a talk
03:56:31
Binawith their children. >> That the outcome of that. So bad parenting equals murderer and rapist. >> Yes. Yes. You can 100% raise a school
03:56:42
Felicityshooter, a rapist, >> but it's not 50%. Like, so out of Nick or Brian, do you think which one of them do you think is a murderer or rapist? >> Uh, I'm not going to answer that,
03:56:55
Bina>> but So, do you think But do you think either of them >> neither of them? They seem kind of cool, >> but there's two of them. So, one of them has to be, right? >> You never know.
03:57:06
BinaYou really never know. Like, >> do they give you that vibe?
03:57:15
BinaLike I mean >> do you think that? >> I don't know. I need to get to know them more. >> Usually women haters usually women haters are
03:57:28
Felicity>> You know women >> I I think there's a small chance. Yeah. >> Okay. I'm not even going to ask about that. That's for him. But so you think 50% of men are rapists and murderers.
03:57:39
Bina>> I don't know about murder. That's so much. But like definitely definitely like if they had the chance if you were tied up in a room I think
03:57:50
Felicitythere's high very high chances that 50% of the men will take advantage of that. >> So I'm pretty sure the actual statistic is like less than 1%. >> That is what's reported. I know that a
03:58:02
Felicitylot of things do go unreported, but I still I really I think 50% is a reach. >> Pretty high. >> I just I just speak to a lot of women. I
03:58:14
Felicityknow a lot of women and they've like damn near all of them have been raped. >> No, I agree. I know a lot of women that have been assaulted as well, but I wouldn't say that 50% of men are
03:58:25
Bina>> Do you have like when you walk down the street, do 50% of men like want to rape you? >> Okay. I don't know if they want to, but they talk like they would if they had the opportunity. But you said that you
03:58:36
Felicitysaid that 50% of men are rapists and maybe murderers. >> I think there's a very high chance of that. >> So like what's the population of LA?
03:58:47
FelicityWhat is the It's like a couple million. >> It's like four million. >> Okay. So like the heart of LA, not like the greater LA area. So you think two,
03:58:56
Felicityso let's say what it's like half and half women and men. So you think 1 million men in Los Angeles are rapists and murderers?
03:59:09
Felicity>> Not murderers. >> Do you know how much? Do you even Do you know the population of California? >> I don't. >> It's 49 million. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Then yeah, I think a million sounds right. Yes.
03:59:20
Felicity>> But that's just LA. >> Oh, in in LA. No, I would say California a million. Yeah. >> Okay. So, but then that would like take your 50% like rapist down to
03:59:32
Felicity>> like a 10% >> 10%. >> Okay. I guess that I mean I don't think that but I guess that's more agreeable >> than 50.
03:59:44
Bina>> I don't know. Just for me to come across so many women that have had this happen to them either as a child or an adult like this is crazy. Like, are you
03:59:54
Binakidding me? Like, it's definitely a very high percentage. Like, 100 plus women really like and how who knows how many other women that one man
04:00:05
Kelsey Riskdid that to. >> Well, it's sad and it's not right. But just because you walk down the street and you get cat called or you have something derogatory said to you, that doesn't mean they want to rape you. So
04:00:17
Kelsey Riskthat that's what she's going back to is you're saying half the men that I go down the streets, doesn't matter what time of the day or if I go into Trader Joe's, someone is making a comment to me. Therefore, half of those men want to
04:00:30
Binarape me like that. That's >> I feel like if they have the opportunity, they would cuz it's not just cat calling. It's more than that. Like where are you going speech? It's not
04:00:40
Bina>> it's LA. And also it's just like lowkey California in general. Like there's a lot of interesting people here. >> Wait, >> but you said when you travel, you also get that as well. So it's not just in
04:00:52
Felicityone place. And what we're saying is maybe you should go around with like a bodyguard or something. >> I know. >> You should hire one. >> I should. I honestly >> Maybe he would rape you though.
04:01:03
Felicity>> Literally. Yeah. Like literally just a big strong lesbian woman. Maybe you're just attracting that cuz I don't experience Also, I don't go out a lot and I usually I don't like to go out alone either.
04:01:15
Felicity>> Why? >> Because I just don't I don't like to do things alone. I'm like kind of I like to have friends with me. >> I don't know. I think maybe you're in the wrong area if that's actually
04:01:26
Binahappening. >> Out like every day going to the grocery store, like random places that this shouldn't be happening at.
04:01:38
FelicityWait, so you said 50% of men would >> 10. Oh, >> she changed it to 10. In California, she thinks 1 million out of 49 million
04:01:47
Felicitypeople in California, she thinks 1 million men want to rape her or rape people. >> Would if >> that's not 10% or wait, hold on. Wait,
04:01:59
Brian Atlaswhat? What is the What's the actual percentage? >> Just keeps changing. I thought I thought it was 50. I heard 50. >> Yeah, she said they're saying in all of California. >> Uhhuh.
04:02:12
Brian Atlas>> But not >> 50% of the men. >> No, a million men. >> A million men. >> So what would that be? There's what? How
04:02:22
Brian Atlasmany men are in the in California? >> What's the population of California? >> 49 million. >> So 20 one out of 25 >> 19
04:02:33
Brian Atlasmillion >> men. What? Oh, >> so a million out of TW. Let's just say
04:02:42
Felicityone out of 20. So that would be 5%. >> 5% of men would do this. >> I thought you were an engineer. >> Were Were you the one that said you were going to school for engine? >> Oh, okay. I was going to say, how do you
04:02:55
Binanot know that? >> Oh, yeah. No, I don't do math. >> Okay. >> But your original claim was 50, right? Um, I think it's more just like a
04:03:06
Binahundred or a million people in California because Yeah, I just think it sounds right because there's 50 million I would say about one if they had the opportunity
04:03:17
Marcathey would rape somebody a woman or another man cuz they pull up the actual statistic of men that would that >> it's less than 1%
04:03:29
Felicity>> in California. Can we look at I agree that is rapes are not recorded like all of them. All the girls still not going to be like 50% or
04:03:41
Brian Atlas10%. >> Hold on. If it's not reported, how would you ever infer statistics as to the likelihood of rape? >> I was saying that literally every woman
04:03:52
BinaI know damn near has been raped as a child or a woman. What percentage of them as a child?
04:04:05
Brian Atlas>> Maybe like a little less than half. >> But it's sickening how many children like >> Yeah, it's a disgusting it's a disgusting crime. >> But
04:04:19
Brian Atlas>> that's just why have that reason >> saying 50% of women have been essayed as a child. uh
04:04:28
Brian Atlasdoesn't at all is not at all comprehensible as it relates to the crime statistics that we know. Like you're just pulling this out of
04:04:40
Brian Atlasyour ass. >> No, it's personally people I've met. >> So you How many How many people have you met that you talk about rape? Like
04:04:52
Brian Atlas>> BTW. Oh my god. Let's take a shot of Hennessy. By the way, I was raped as a child. >> That's not how me and my friends hang out. >> Yeah, but what's your like what's your the the the pool of people that you're
04:05:04
Brian Atlasreferencing here? >> All types of people literally. Like I >> like I feel like you have to have a pretty >> I mean all types of people. >> It's like a somewhat of a connection to like be like by the way I want to have a
04:05:16
Binareally heavy conversation with you. I was molested as a child. Like >> it's not even like that honestly. It's just like it'll come up in a conversation of like like me and my
04:05:26
Binafriends talk about worldly things like you know so if it gets brought up like the subject of men or the subject of rape or the subject of whatever like >> I mean
04:05:38
Bina>> it just comes up a lot and then they tell me and I'm just like damn how many women how many more women am I going to hear that this happened to this is insane. It just seems
04:05:49
Brian Atlasyou say almost every woman who you know has been raped. >> Yes. >> And 50% of those was when they were children. >> I would say a little less than half. >> Okay. The numbers keep changing. >> I said that before.
04:06:01
Brian Atlas>> I don't dispute. There's no dispute that these things happen. But I find it dubious for you to say that almost all of the women you know have been raped and 50% of them >> It's a sad truth
04:06:13
Brian Atlas>> were raped as children. >> It's a sad truth. Soak it up. It's sad and it's true. >> This doesn't correlate at all with the
04:06:23
Brian Atlasstatistics that we know. >> Again, most rapes are not recorded. >> That still wouldn't even compute that like I don't know. What do you give us a
04:06:34
Brian Atlaspercentage of the women you know who have been essay like raped? It's 90% 95%. >> You said it was most or all I think. I don't know. Yeah. Like like 85%.
04:06:47
Bina>> 85%. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh I mean I suppose it's possible that that's been your experience members,
04:06:57
Bina>> stepdads, uncles, like that type of stuff. Older men. >> Okay. Um
04:07:06
Bina>> that's why I that's why I said the 5%. That's my reasoning behind it. Uh, okay. I mean,
04:07:20
Brian Atlasthis is not in line, it's not in line at all with with the uh crime statistics that we know. It's not even in line with like these organizations that I think that their stats are off,
04:07:32
Brian Atlasbut even some of these organizations that report on this, they don't ever go this high. >> This is just my personal experience.
04:07:41
Brian Atlas>> Okay. I I I guess um how the [ __ ] did we get on this topic? >> The bear versus random. >> All right. Um I mean
04:07:54
Brian Atlas>> I would I would just point out you didn't reference statistics or whatever, but in a lot of these statistics I've read some of these studies that they've done where they ask women and they try
04:08:04
Brian Atlasto analyze victimization rates. They collapse in these studies. They will collapse all kinds of things that are are wrong, but
04:08:14
Brian Atlasthey'll collapse it under this umbrella term sexual violence. And it's this very disingenuous thing that these organizations do. And they'll, for example, they'll include under sexual
04:08:25
Brian Atlasviolence cat calling, which is wrong. But when you use that and then you put out this this data set and you say this is uh this amount of women have
04:08:36
Brian Atlasexperienced sexual violence and most people without they're not going to look into the study, they're going to assume that that's rape or like severe forms of sexual uh assault.
04:08:47
Brian AtlasIt's this really an uh this really what's the right word for it? just insincere thing where you're you're trying you
04:08:58
Brian Atlashave this ideology, you're trying to paint a picture. Look at there's no doubt that these terrible crimes happen and they do happen way more than they should. There's no doubt there.
04:09:08
Brian AtlasBut it doesn't do these organizations any service to like artificially inflate by counting things that don't fall under what legally would be considered essay
04:09:20
Brian Atlasor rape. For example, you can tell me what you think about this. In one of these studies, I saw a a guy who's in a relationship with a
04:09:32
Brian Atlasgirl. If the guy I'm trying to recall the exact details, if the guy threatens to break up with his girlfriend because she's not having
04:09:43
Brian Atlasenough sex with him, that's a form of sexual coercion. And that's going to be fall under the this sort of umbrella term of sexual
04:09:54
Brian Atlasviolence, sexual coercion, right? Well, I don't really think if you're in a
04:10:04
Brian Atlasmonogous relationship and the un and you've had plenty of casual or so, not casual, you've had monogamous uh consensual sex and your girlfriend
04:10:15
Brian Atlaslike dead bedrooms you. I don't think that that's a like a sex crime to be like, "Hey babe, I don't think I want to date you anymore because
04:10:26
Brian Atlaswe're not having sex." Sorry, that's not a sex crime. >> Mhm. >> Or do you think it is? No, I don't think that's
04:10:37
Brian Atlas>> But these organizations categorize it as a form of sexual coercion, sexual violence, aka some form of sexual abuse or sex crime. By the way, I don't have a double standard on
04:10:50
Brian Atlasthis. If you're a woman and your boyfriend stops [ __ ] you, you can break up with your boyfriend if he doesn't want to [ __ ] you anymore. That's totally fair game. That's not sexual
04:10:59
Brian Atlascoercion. It's not some sort of there the No. Now, I think it's fair to be like, "Hey, what's going on? Let's let's have a conversation." >> But I also I also think it's already gone to a point where you need to have a
04:11:13
Brian Atlasconversation. Your partner no longer cares about your needs. >> Yeah. >> I think it's fair to be frustrated if you've made like, >> "Oh, we have there is this this guy kept
04:11:23
Brian Atlasa spreadsheet >> and he listed this is kind of tacky. I don't think you should do this as a guy, but he he kept a spreadsheet of all the times his wife
04:11:35
Brian Atlasrejected them for sex and in like a twomonth period or something. I don't know. It was a couple weeks period or whatever, she rejected him like 20 times and they had sex three times. >> Sad. >> I don't know, man.
04:11:49
Brian Atlas>> It's tough. >> You want to break up with your chick cuz she's not [ __ ] you. You want to break up with your boyfriend cuz he's not [ __ ] you. >> I think it's valid. >> Yeah, >> I think that's fine. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> that's fine.
04:11:59
Emily>> Yeah. But they using their definition they they considered it. >> That's right. I disagree. >> These organizations need to stop that. >> I am curious though just for if I do
04:12:11
Brian Atlasencounter them. What organizations are ones? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So the specific one I saw it was Rain. >> Okay. >> They they linked to a study on their
04:12:22
Brian Atlaswebsite because it was like one in three women. And then I looked at the actual study and it it had the sexual violence definition that included exactly that. >> Crazy.
04:12:35
Brian Atlas>> That's concerning. >> And it's like well or I think there was another one where it was just like uh I'm trying to think what it was. >> Um
04:12:47
Brian Atlasit was just I don't know. So yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, we agree with you. >> But I mean, so when we're talking about this, are we like I don't know. We've
04:12:59
Brian Atlashad some we've had some dubious things said on the show on this topic.
04:13:08
Brian Atlas>> Like for example, can I ask you guys a question? M and I I'll acknowledge ahead of time that this could be true, but do you
04:13:18
Brian Atlasthink like so let's say a woman has a boyfriend and they have a long history of having consensual sex and then she she says she got raped by her
04:13:31
Brian Atlasboyfriend who she had consensual sex with the night before and then the very next night she has consensual sex with I I realize that this is a this could
04:13:43
Brian Atlashappen. Like it is possible the guy could she could not want it and he forces himself on her. Clearly rape, right? But we've had some women come on the show say that,
04:13:53
Brian Atlas"Yeah, I've got a boyfriend. Like I I suck his dick all the time, but like there was this one time I froze.
04:14:02
Brian AtlasI didn't say no. I froze." But 24 hours prior I initiated sex with him and then 24 hours later I initiated sex with him.
04:14:13
BinaBut this one time in between she's saying she was raped. Was she >> was it raped? >> Was she raped? >> No. >> If you like if she didn't say no or didn't express to him.
04:14:26
Marca>> Yeah. Communication is communication. >> I think Yeah. I think it that's confusing him if she's having sex with him this day and then like and 24 hours later but then in between she's like >> I think that's going to confuse >> fair to him cuz how is he supposed to
04:14:39
Marcaknow anything? >> Yeah, cuz I'm like he's worried but says no and >> but if she says no and she's like then yeah that's rape. >> Yeah. Uh pull up the super chat. Felicity is going to read it.
04:14:51
Felicity>> Even a bear would avoid chair one because he would be able to smell how stupid she is. Also, the bear knows he would need a penicellin shot after walking by the skunk.
04:15:02
Bina>> A, you just paid $100 to tell me you don't agree with me. That's really sad. >> Emotional damage. Thank you for the uh super chat. >> No, really. Emotional damage, baby. Go
04:15:12
Brian Atlasget some help. >> Uh, really quick, going back to the height thing. You said taller than you. >> So, as long as he's taller than you, you're 5'6. Like 5'7, you're fine with >> Yeah.
04:15:24
Marca>> You're 5'2. You said 6'2. >> Yeah, but I I'll do I I've I've dated people that are 6 foot, but I like 6'2 and >> but minimum height of a man you >> Yeah. I like people that are like a foot taller than me cuz I like wearing heels and being like right here.
04:15:37
Brian Atlas>> I just like being tiny next to my >> So you're 5'2. You want a guy who's 6'2? >> I've dated. All the men I've dated have been that tall. My ex. >> Yes. >> All of them.
04:15:47
Brian Atlas>> All right. She wants a 6'2 millionaire. Okay. Uh, everybody else, none of your answers were really I don't
04:15:57
Brian Atlashave any issues with any of your other stuff. Uh, okay. The bear thing. I mean, we won't linger on the bear too long. I would Who picked bear? Bear. >> Oh, I didn't even get past
04:16:09
Brian Atlasin an elevator. >> I don't worry about that. Uh, but you picked bear. >> Yeah, >> it depends on the situation. The bear and the >> Oh my god, you're [ __ ] killing me. >> I'm sorry. Like,
04:16:21
Emily>> it always depends. It does. Like I'd rather see a black bear oops than a grizzly bear. And then currently I'm staying at like a hostel that's mixed gender and I don't mind being in the
04:16:33
Emilysame hostel room with guys sleep. But if I'm out in the woods alone and I'm camping alone, which I've done before, >> okay, >> I don't really want to see a guy and let him know that I'm there alone. >> Here's the question. Would you rather
04:16:46
Brian Atlascross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike? So, the context, there isn't really a depend because the random bear could be a black bear, brown bear, grizzly bear, uh what what's the
04:17:00
Brian Atlaspolar bear, >> the random man, could be uh could be the nicest guy ever, could be a murderer, could be who who knows what. It could be random man, right? >> If it's a hike, then probably a man, but
04:17:11
Emilyif I'm camping alone, I'm gonna rather see a bear. And also, Indiana doesn't have really any bears other than the occasional black bears. >> Oh my god. Okay. Uh, what did you pick? >> Um, I picked bear, but if we're going on
04:17:23
Brian Atlasa hike, honestly, like I I think I'd be scared of a bear rather than the >> What about you? >> A man. >> A bear. >> Mother bear. >> Cena. >> Cena. Sena. Cena. Cena. Sa. Is it S or Cena? >> Man. What about you?
04:17:37
Brian Atlas>> A man. >> Man. >> A man. >> Okay. Uh, we won't linger on the bear one for too long, but uh, basically, I think it's sexist to pick bear.
04:17:49
Brian AtlasI think you guys are ra raging sexists to pick bear. And here's why. I always like to use this, but you know, whatever. I've used it a few times
04:17:58
Brian Atlastonight. If we change the question to, would you rather come across a random black person or a random bear and you
04:18:09
Brian Atlaspick the bear over a black person? We would we all agree that it would be really racist? >> Yeah. >> Mhm. to pick a bear over a black person.
04:18:18
Bina>> But again, that people of color are victims of racism. And men did this to themselves. >> What the [ __ ] Because the majority of
04:18:28
Brian Atlasmen collective guilt. That's collective guilt. I'm not guilty. If I'm an innocent person, I'm not guilty for what other men do. >> But the majority of men, >> it's not the majority. The majority of
04:18:40
Cenamen wait >> No, it's not the majority. Go ahead. Yeah. >> So, if you're saying a majority of your exes cheated on you, are you going to say, "Okay, all men are going to cheat on me from now from now on."
04:18:52
Cena>> And if all of those men you dated were white or black, would you say, "Okay, black men are going to cheat on me." >> No. >> So, why is it that all men or are
04:19:04
Bina>> Because the majority of men, like black people didn't do anything to deserve racism other than somebody just thought, "Oh, I'm better than them." Like, no, it's an opinion. >> Okay. If a majority of your exes cheated, would you say all men will
04:19:18
Brian Atlascheat? >> But they did something to me. Black people did nothing to any They didn't do anything to anyone. >> What about that guy who [ __ ] merked that white woman on the reason why racism exists?
04:19:31
Brian Atlas>> Wait, wait, wait, hold on. What about that white woman who got merckked by a black man? >> Okay, it's a man. >> It's a black person. >> It doesn't matter. It's a man. >> Well, how do you know it's because he's a man? What if it's because it's a black person?
04:19:45
Bina>> That doesn't exist. >> No, what do you mean? >> So, you're racist. >> No, I'm not saying that. I'm testing your logic. >> No, it's irrelevant because your color. I'm not seeing the color. I'm seeing that you are a man and that most men are
04:19:59
Brian Atlasthe ones who are doing this. >> He called her Hold on. It was absolutely racially motivated. Didn't he call her like a a white [ __ ] or something when he [ __ ] shanked her? >> Yeah, he was like got the white one or something. What? I I didn't watch the video because it was
04:20:11
Kelsey Risk>> Well, then maybe he's racist like still a man. >> So maybe the motivation was racial. >> Did what chat? What did he say? He said something like >> he like walked away and said something. >> Well, he when he walked away he said I
04:20:23
Kelsey Riskgot that white woman. And and the motive >> I just got the white girl. Sorry. What's that? >> The motive that when he was asked why did you do that? He said it was because >> he he said that she was reading his
04:20:36
Brian Atlasmind. >> Okay. So he's not okay in the head. He's literally like mentally ill. >> Okay. So why can't you make that attribution towards men who commit crimes? Maybe they're mentally ill. Maybe it has nothing to do with the fact
04:20:49
Brian Atlasthat they're men. Maybe they're mentally ill. Why do you give grace towards a black person who committed an atrocious crime but not men in general? >> Because it has nothing to do with their color of their skin. It has to do with
04:21:01
Brian Atlasthat they're a man and men are just more aggressive than women. This is I don't actually think that this this is even true. Even granting that it was true. But I would just defer back to just
04:21:12
Brian Atlasbecause a very small proportion of a group commits a crime that doesn't like grant you cart blanch to do this collective guilt thing where oh all men or all people of this group are bad.
04:21:24
Brian Atlas>> I not all majority. >> No it's not the majority. >> But I will say >> what wait one one thing I want to explore the majority. So you think that
04:21:35
Bina>> crime, you just said that men are incarcerated more, men are killed more, men are like, you know, violence, all
04:21:43
Binathat. I'm pretty sure that's all like they did that to themselves. >> Wait, >> they got incarcerated. They chose to commit the crime to get
04:21:55
Brian Atlas>> Okay. So you don't have any issues with like when there's over representation of black people who are incarcerated or anything like that? What do you mean a problem? Like what do you mean? >> Well, like you might do you do you ever make the argument that like, oh, why are
04:22:07
Brian Atlasthese cops policing like black communities this way? >> Do I believe that? >> Like, okay, there's there do you think that there's any racist component to the fact that there's like a higher
04:22:19
Binaproportion of black men in jail per capita than white people? >> I think in like certain states, yes. >> C certain states. >> Certain states. Yes. But I mean this is
04:22:31
Brian Atlasacross all states per capita. There's more black men who are in prison. [Music] >> But there's also more like >> is it just their choice or is there
04:22:42
Brian Atlassystemic racism? >> Is there check this out though? So you know George Floyd BLM riots uh he was killed
04:22:53
Brian Atlasby well >> the reason the justification for the riots was he was killed by the police officer. There are of course disputes as to the actual cause of death. Some people believe and the toxicology
04:23:04
Brian Atlasreports seem to indicate as much he died of a fent he died of a fentinyl overdose. In any case, there's massive outrage. Whatever. If I could tell you though that there
04:23:15
Brian Atlasare more just even white men who are killed. There are more white men who are killed by police police officers than there are women of all races combined. Black, Latina, Asian, white, all women
04:23:28
Brian Atlascombined. There's more white men that are killed by police than there are women total. >> Wouldn't that also have to you'd have to be like, "Wow, there's there's sexism against men."
04:23:40
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Yeah. If those were the statistics, then I would agree. >> It is it is the statistics. So, >> then I would agree. >> Okay. >> Yeah.
04:23:50
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. So, you you bring up choice. Well, men choose to commit these crimes. Okay. Well, then black people also choose to disproportionately commit crimes.
04:24:00
Bina>> But I just like I want to separate the race from the gender. Like to have like the majority of men are all races. Like
04:24:11
Binait doesn't matter what race you are. Like you're a man and like the majority of you are acting crazy. >> No, the majority of men are not acting crazy. >> But why would you think that? Why would
04:24:25
Binayou would you're the one making the claim that it's the majority. It's the majority of men. >> I think I'm speaking from personal experience. I'm speaking from personal experience experience from other people
04:24:37
Brian Atlaslike >> Okay, but check this out. Let's say I Let's just say hypothetically I >> had three, four, five bad experiences with black people. Mhm.
04:24:48
Brian Atlas>> Would that then give me justification to say the majority of black people are bad? Would that be >> no >> logically sound? Right. So I I get that you've had a lot of bad experiences with
04:25:00
Brian Atlasmen. I'll even you know sure I'll grant it. That wouldn't then give you the basis to say the majority of men are bad >> just because you've had a lot of bad
04:25:12
Binaexperiences. >> It's like there's only two genders here. There's multiple races. So for you to like >> Okay. >> Yeah. So like if if one race, five
04:25:23
Binapeople of the same race did something to you, it's just way the the grand scheme of things is like there's only two genders. One of them is acting more crazy than the other. And that's just my
04:25:35
Brian Atlasopinion. It like and they're all multiple races. So it really doesn't matter what race you are. >> But >> it's the majority of a whole gender. It's the majority. >> It's not the majority, right? But you're
04:25:48
Brian Atlasdoing this sort of collective guilt thing. You're basically saying, "Oh, well, I've had these bad experiences and these crimes disproportionately. Men commit these crimes disproportionately
04:25:58
Brian Atlasas compared to women." Uh, so airgo like all men bad or majority of men bad. It's clearly not true. It's not true. Trust me, if if the majority of men were as
04:26:09
Brian Atlasbad as you think they are, trust me, society society would be gigafucked. There'd be mass amounts. It's not. No, it's not. There's issues with society.
04:26:19
Brian AtlasThere are issues, but trust me, uh I don't think you understand like societal collapse really. >> We're on the way there. >> No, >> no, we're Look, possibly possibly we're
04:26:31
Brian Atlason the way there, but currently society functions. Uh, you have garbage men who pick up the trash. You have plumbers who fix your plumbing. You have men who, by the way, there's not enough credit given
04:26:41
Brian Atlasto men who overwhelmingly, like you, you want to point to men are also evil. Men overwhelmingly, like women are total [ __ ] cowards. Men overwhelmingly are the ones who do acts of heroism. If
04:26:53
Brian Atlassomebody's in a in distress situation, a man's going to be the one to save them. A woman's drowning during a flood, it's not going to be some woman swimming in there to save her. It's going to be some
04:27:02
Brian Atlasman. It's absolutely true. The majority of heroic acts are almost exclusively done by men. So >> yes, it's absolutely the case almost all
04:27:14
Brian Atlasacts of heroism are exclusively done by men. I think you're dismissing you're looking at the negative of men and not looking at the positive of men. Not only
04:27:22
Brian Atlasthat, moving a step below just heroism, the backbreaking, grueling work that is required. >> You're biologically stronger than us. >> No, not even the back breaking grueling
04:27:33
Brian Atlaswork that that is required to keep society functioning when you're living in Indiana and it's does it get below zero? >> Oh yeah. >> When it's [ __ ] below zero. We got two
04:27:44
Brian Atlaswomen from Indiana here. Below zero in Indiana in the middle of winter. It's not some woman going out there to fix the electrical lines. It's >> at 3:00 a.m. You think it's a woman
04:27:55
Brian Atlasgoing out there to fix the the electrical grid? No. It's some some grizzled dude who some [ __ ] white bearded dude or you know whatever it could be some 20 30 year old whatever
04:28:06
Brian Atlasdoesn't matter the age man is going to be the one that fixes [ __ ] when [ __ ] hits the fan it's not women so all the comforts that you women so ungratefully
04:28:16
Brian Atlastake for granted it's men that bestow upon you the comforts of modernity the comforts of modernity >> I mean >> is just so ungraciously cared
04:28:27
EmilyI do agree. A lot of men do a lot of difficult bluecollar jobs. But that being said, not all women have jobs that are luxurious. I mean, I pick off green mushy people covered in maggots off the floor sometimes.
04:28:41
Emily>> Oh my god. >> Um, you know, I've had to reassemble people from the get-go, and I don't There are men who tell me all the time, I can't do what you do. >> That's That's fine. But you you need to
04:28:52
Brian Atlasget rid of the soypsism here. you're always pointing to, well, I'm the I'm the outlier or I know women who are the outlier. So, there's no dispute. Like, >> I just know a lot of women who are also
04:29:05
Brian Atlaslike this. You may not know them, but I just I'm I'm not there are a lot of girls who are like me. >> Okay, that's fine. But we have statistics from the the the Bureau of
04:29:16
Brian AtlasLabor Statistics that show when it comes to crit critical infrastructure jobs, women are completely absent. completely absent. You know, all these jobs that
04:29:26
Brian Atlasbasically hold up and are the foundation for society, it's 95, 97, 99% men. >> Yeah, there's one there. There's no >> funeral service, it's flipping. It's
04:29:37
Brian Atlasactually more women are going into funeral service. >> I would not say that funeral service is necessarily like critical backbone infrastructure in
04:29:49
Brian Atlassociety. I mean, we were during co >> I don't see how the number of deaths would I mean, it it it's you obviously can't
04:30:00
Brian Atlasjust like let dead bodies like be kicking it in the streets and stuff. Something has to be done there. But
04:30:09
Brian Atlasthis idea that it's comparable to like the the hardworking men who ensure that the you know the water system, the electrical system, waste management, all
04:30:20
Brian Atlasthese critical infrastructure fields, telecommunications, every everything it's predominated by men. We were talking about the wage gap earlier. There's no dispute here. The the
04:30:31
Brian Atlasstatistics are clear. There's no alternative facts. men dominate in these fields and these fields are what keep society running. >> I don't disagree. >> Yeah, I don't disagree with that. But I would but like I wouldn't like
04:30:43
Binacompletely say that women like don't work those jobs because like her mom is a firefighter. >> My mom like my mom is a firefighter and she will tell me that literally they will reject people
04:30:55
Binato work the job. So then you want to say oh we're the backbone of the whole country. Okay then let us let us know. percent. What percentage of firefighters are women? >> Exactly my point. You're not allowed to be
04:31:06
Brian Atlas>> That's because you need to be First off, you need I don't know who your mom is. >> There there's a lot of affirmative action, DEI stuff, lowering of
04:31:16
Binastandards. uh women don't have the >> she's a captain and an engineer and she literally has had to deal with men constantly
04:31:26
Binalike trying to test her and trying to belittle her and they do it in the entire department and they're not letting women into the department. >> Your mother, Hold on. Your mother is a
04:31:38
Brian Atlascomplete contradiction of this entire claim. Your mother's a firefighter. >> Exactly. But they don't allow a lot of women in there. Especially in LA. They definitely do. >> She doesn't She's not from LA. Not >> Well, you're in LA. You live in LA.
04:31:50
Brian AtlasOkay, whatever. San, you know the Palisades fire. I don't know. [ __ ] the DEI [ __ ] with the LA Fire Department or whatever the [ __ ] >> She's not in the fire department of LA. >> That That's fine. But women don't have
04:32:00
Brian Atlasthe physical strength to do the job. >> Okay. So, don't sit here and say, "Oh, we're like the backbone. You guys won't even allow us to >> Yes. because of men's innate nature, we're more suited and acclimated to
04:32:14
Brian Atlasdoing these jobs. >> So, I'm not complaining that you have the job then. >> No, I'm not complaining. I'm saying you have this bigoted, generalized contempt or hatred for men. And I'm saying maybe there should be a bit more appreciation for men.
04:32:27
Brian Atlas>> I hate men. >> You say the majority of men are creeps, weirdos. You think they're predators. >> Majority. Majority. But the good ones are so >> Wait, wait. Why would you emphasize majority? My specific grievance with you
04:32:38
Brian Atlasis the use of the term majority. If you if you were like, "No, no, no. It's just the majority, sorry, minority of men," >> then yes, but saying the majority of men paints
04:32:49
Brian Atlas>> the majority of men as bad. I think that's kind of wrong. Like I would never say the majority of black people, the majority of this group. >> I think I think she should say the majority of men she meets cuz this is
04:33:02
Brian Atlasher. Like I this is >> those are two different things though. Even that I mean that's what everyone majority men I meet and everyone I know >> even if she meets 100 men per day and
04:33:12
Marcathey all slap her across the face that still wouldn't be the majority of men >> that she meets. >> No, majority of men. >> But I think what she's trying to say is the majority of men she meets, not the majority of men. >> Yeah, but I don't think that's what she means.
04:33:26
Brian Atlas>> No, >> she means majority of men. Point blank. Period. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's not the majority >> wrong until I'm proven wrong. Like >> until you're proven wrong. >> Yes.
04:33:37
Bina>> So, should men start out in prison? >> Like, they have to work their way out. They have to prove themselves. >> Answer the question. Should men start out in prison?
04:33:47
Bina>> No. But I definitely think that as a collective just need to do better and start raising men better. >> But, okay, replace men with black
04:34:00
Brian Atlaspeople. >> It sounds racism. Racism is a choice. >> Is your Is your statement racist? If we replace men with black people, black people just need to do better.
04:34:12
Brian Atlas>> We got to raise these black people better. That's [ __ ] racist. Thus, airgo, your statement is sexist. >> Maybe it is, but that's just how I feel. >> So, is sexism bad? >> Not really. No.
04:34:25
Felicity>> Is sexism against women bad? >> If it's your opinion, no. It's an opinion. >> The [ __ ] >> Racism? What is a choice? If it's an opinion, >> sex is a bad racism. Oh my god. So
04:34:37
Felicitymisogyny isn't bad if it's an opinion. >> It is bad. >> But that's what you just said. You said that you can be sexist towards women, which is misogyny. >> Oh [ __ ] >> But it's okay because it's an opinion.
04:34:48
Bina>> It's not necessarily okay or not okay, but it's an opinion. Like >> it's an opinion. Feelings don't it doesn't really concern anybody if someone is sexist. Like someone doesn't
04:35:01
Felicitylike >> if they treat other people differently because of their sex or let's bring race into it too because of their race. That's >> race is very >> people get hate crime because of sex and
04:35:12
Brian Atlasrace and stuff and that's bad. >> It's not just an opinion but it's like >> men did this to themselves. >> No no no no no no. Black people did this to themselves. >> No they didn't. any any statement you
04:35:25
Binacan make. >> Somebody chose to wake up one day and be like this color of your skin is wrong. No, they didn't do anything to deserve that. Men, the major the majority of men
04:35:35
Brian AtlasI know, I meet, everyone meets that I know. I want to live in a society where people don't say I can I have had bad experiences with this group of people
04:35:47
Brian Atlasand I can look at crime statistics and because of these two things that gives me justification for bigotry that gives me justification for sexism in your case
04:35:57
Brian Atlasor it would give a racist justification for racism in their case is it for example and I just think it's a dangerous road you're going down I don't I racism is bad sexism is bad. But what
04:36:09
Brian Atlasyou're doing is opening the door to racist to say, "Well, if your position is okay, my position is okay." So, if a racist were to say, "Well, I've had bad experiences with black people. I've had a bunch of bad experiences with with
04:36:21
Brian Atlasblack people." Maybe it was three, four, five. That's a very, very small proportion of black people, by the way. And and uh oh, look, these crime statistics. Black people are more likely
04:36:33
Brian Atlasto commit violence against white people. black people are more likely to, you know, commit xyz crimes. Therefore, I am going to generalize all black people and say, you know, negative things about
04:36:44
Brian Atlasblack people. That's clearly wrong. It's clearly racist. I would never say any sort of negative generalized statement. I would point to there are specific subset, a very small proportion. There's
04:36:56
Brian Atlasa small proportion of people who commit these crimes, whether it's cuz they're not because whether they're men, whether they're black. And I would never attribute the action of the minority to
04:37:08
Brian Atlasthe majority. I would never say this minority of this group whether it's black or white or what women any group and say I think well the whole group is rotten or the majority of the group is
04:37:20
Brian Atlasrotten because of the negative actions of a small portion of that group. >> I just think it's way different from gender. It's logically coherent way more
04:37:32
Felicitypeople. So, is it okay for a man to kill a woman just because he doesn't like women because it's an opinion? Because that's what you said. She said it's just an opinion that makes it that's okay.
04:37:42
Bina>> Sex is saying it doesn't really concern someone. If somebody doesn't necessarily feel comfortable around a man doesn't really concern anybody except that person. But for you to hate someone because of their skin color, what did
04:37:55
Binathat person do to you? And even >> can you hate somebody because they're a man >> or a woman? I mean, >> and they didn't do anything to you. No, I don't think that's wrong. I don't think >> you said it was okay. Sexism was fine
04:38:07
Binabecause it's an opinion. >> I don't think anyone should be rude to anybody, but if somebody feels uncomfortable around a man, >> they they have a right to because most women >> do feel uncomfortable.
04:38:19
Brian Atlas>> White people white people should be allowed to feel uncomfortable around >> I don't know why you keep bringing up race >> because that that's the logical extension of your position. >> Nothing to do with race. >> It's the logical extension of your
04:38:31
Brian Atlasposition. If it's okay for women to feel whatever to feel uncomfortable, it's not the same. >> Then surely it must be okay for a white person to feel uncomfortable around >> be racist. People have no reason to be racist. >> It's the same Hold on. It would be the
04:38:43
Brian Atlassame criteria >> because the majority of people are literally harassed by men every day. >> But it's it would be the same criteria. >> Not true. >> It your criteria is I've had bad experiences, bad my own anecdotal
04:38:56
Brian Atlasexperiences and look at these crime statistics over here. men do more of this crime. Okay, it would be logically consistent then to say, well, hold on, a
04:39:06
Brian Atlaswhite person, I've had XYZ, three, four, five bad experiences with black people and look at these crime statistics right here. Uh, >> wow. Then that's just gives you justification for racism.
04:39:19
Bina>> Are those black people men or women? Like, I just think it needs to be >> gender. I just don't think race has anything to do with it. Isn't it the case that uh >> that's just how >> there are more I could be wrong. I'm
04:39:32
Brian Atlastrying to think. Wait, I'm trying to remember the stats. Per capita, are there more black women? [ __ ] I don't know if I I'm I'm actually
04:39:43
Brian AtlasI don't know. Can we look it up? Are there more black women who commit murders than white men per capita? I could be wrong. I'm just curious.
04:39:59
Brian AtlasYeah, make it. It has to be per capita though. >> Yep. >> Per capita very important. Anyways, we got to we'll move on after this. Oh my goodness, you guys are crazy. I do think
04:40:11
Emilythat I'm not justifying it, but I think part of the reason women are so wary of that woman, the bear question is even where I grew up >> um because I like I'd like to give
04:40:21
Emilypeople benefit out and I travel alone a lot or I do activities alone a lot. Um you know, I've had my whole family, my whole life when I go to do these activities alone be like, "Hey, you need to be careful. Hey, you need to go tell
04:40:34
Emilysomeone where you're at." Or they scold me because I can't by myself. And but I will say when my family says that, they're not bringing up like little ladies jumping me or something. I'm not
04:40:45
Emilysaying it's right that they assume that, but a lot of women have been told that their whole life and maybe that's why they're a little hesitant. >> Yeah, that's also true.
04:40:54
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, that is very true. >> Okay, good talk. Uh we are once she's back from the bathroom, we're going to
04:41:03
Brian Atlasdo uh the famous famous question. Uh oh. Uh, hold on. Let's see if there's any chats here. Uh, no. I think we're good. Uh,
04:41:20
Brian Atlasuh, okay. One sec. All right. I had to get a message out to my staff there. Let's see here. Let's see. Nick, let's do quick Twitch and then I'm going to do
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04:42:17
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04:42:26
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04:42:41
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04:42:52
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04:43:04
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04:43:23
Binaone eternity. Well, cuz there's some things that I'm going to get done that will make me a 10. >> Like what? >> Like I want to get my boobs done.
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Brian Atlas>> No, like don't do that. >> And I want to >> Don't Don't do that. >> Honestly, I just I really want my boobs done. >> She She has a horror story. She got
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SPEAKER_02botched. >> No. >> Oh, what the heck? >> Before Before they got fixed. >> Oh, I'm like, they look great. >> Right, Cena? >> Really? Oh my god. >> A Okay, never mind.
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SPEAKER_02>> Without her for real, I would say like a >> So, what are you now without the fake titties? I guess
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Bina[Music] >> I don't know. Like an eight and a half. >> How much would it be with >> fake titties?
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Brian Atlas>> Titties a 10. >> Okay. Uh, what? Just curious. What cup size are you currently? >> Uh, >> or what? Not >> like a C.
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Brian Atlas>> Oh, >> and I want to be like Sydney Sweeney. >> Well, she's natural. So, >> yeah, but I want it that big. >> You want that size? Okay. All right. Isn't C that's already pretty good, right?
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Emily>> No, I want them to be like porn star, >> bro. Wifey material. Okay. Uh, what about you? >> You know, from the message I sent you, I took issue with this. I think we're all better than a number. All of us.
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Emily>> Facts. >> Okay. Um, >> if you want me to give you my rating, I can. And why I do it, but >> sure. Yeah, why not? >> 10. >> What? >> You're negative 10. >> Don't stop. >> What if we What if you inbalmed yourself?
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Emily>> What? >> Well, when you inbalm, it's not make you're trying to make someone look nice and presentable, but it's not plastic surgery, so you're not
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Emily>> I know. I somewhat facicious joke. Uh, but you know, they put on makeup on them, right? The bodies. >> For much of my life, I've been told I'm
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Irisdeeply unattractive. I've never dated in high school. Um, >> people like the rating scale, especially when you're in high school. >> I have something for you. >> Now, I know you're not a natural beauty, but I think with the right clothes, the
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Emilyright look, you could be very striking. >> No, I I know I'm ugly. I'm sure your chat's having a fun time telling me how gross and worthless I am. So, >> don't ever say that ever again.
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EmilyThat's what I took issue with is cuz I see how bad that kind of stuff can be. Like I'm I'm in the Big Brother's Big Sisters program with an 11year-old girl and she's already worrying about her
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Emilyweight and it's just so destructive and it, you know, I've had to deal with an eating disorder and got so much therapy just it just it's bad. >> You wrote that the the rating thing it's
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Emilydestructive to the mental health of many people. >> Yes. And it's not just women, it's men. Like I know with social media and a lot of young guys, they're doing that looks maxing thing and it's just really toxic
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Brian Atlasand sad cuz your looks should be your least interesting thing about you. >> Yeah. >> Well, hold on. But there's two different things here that we have to differentiate. There's the looks rating
04:46:36
Brian Atlasand then there's generalized vanity. So even if like we were, you know, we were all so above it and we were above rating people for on a one to 10 scale, that
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Brian Atlaswouldn't do away with people's desire to be good-looking and attractive. >> So that's kind of a different thing here. We're talking about vanity.
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Emily>> I guess looking your best is one thing, but I feel like when people are trying to look their best, they're measuring up to someone else. Like for example, you want to look like Sydney Sweeney and I think you look great the way you are. But
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Emily>> but it's just fun to have big boobs. >> Aren't your boobs already big? >> Be fun. Nerd. >> Oh, she want Okay. More more fun, more bigger. Okay. >> And I have a He's I call him my pseudo
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Emilystepson, but my fiance has had a son that lived with us since he was 10. He's 18 now. And he went through a bad period of time where he was dealing with an eating disorder. I just don't wish that on. >> Okay. But I'm not sure the the
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Brian Atlasspecifically the 1 to 10 rating question or system does away from the broader societal vanity. So
04:47:45
Brian Atlasmy rating the looks rating 1 to 10 whether it existed or not people would still engage in vanity comparison wanting to look their best. So my
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Brian Atlasquestion is how specifically is the rating system destructive? Because I think the rating question relates to truth and being able to
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Brian Atlasaccurately assess yourself. I think the rejection of truth is destructive for one's mental health and society. >> I disagree. I mean people like I hear
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Emilyespecially growing up especially when I went to high school guys always would give you just a rating unsolicited or not or sometimes you know growing up social media >> women do it too. I It's not right. I
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Brian Atlasdon't think it's right. Anyone does it. >> Well, I don't think you should Hold on. I don't think you should walk up to somebody and be like, "You're a [ __ ] four ugly person." You should clearly,
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Brian Atlasbut when we're just having like a sort of analytical conversation about this, we're asking somebody's rating. Uh, I don't really think it's going to be a massive source for insecurity.