She DIVORCED Him For BAD $3X?! Dating A FEEDER?! Husband CHEATED With Men?! | Dating Talk #147

Date: 2024-03-27

Duration: 7h 42m

Guests

Brian Atlas

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TTaylor (DT147)>

JJamill (DT147)>

KKatie (DT147)>

NNatalie Winters >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Naomi(guest)

SPEAKER_06Mari(guest)

SPEAKER_07Kiki(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Jamill (+ Kira bleed)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Bri(guest)

SPEAKER_12Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kira(guest)

SPEAKER_14Natalie Winters(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions round. Nine guests introduce themselves. Notable: Natalie Winters (War Room co-host, returning), Naomi (OnlyFans, returning ~1 month), Jamill (39yo RN, divorced after 18yr marriage). Show title references three key stories: bad sex divorce, feeder fetish, husband cheating with men.

“"we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location"”

Key MomentJamill reveals her 18-year marriage ended after husband disclosed Craigslist affairs with men and desire to swing with both men and women. She refused and initiated divorce ~2 years ago. Led to extended dead bedroom. Has 2 kids. Now in a 1-month FWB. This is the "Husband CHEATED With Men" title reference.

“"one of the first things being that he started seeing some people some guys from Craigslist"”

Key MomentBri reveals her 5-year ex had a secret feeder/weight-gain fetish. Discovered 400+ messages on his drunk phone at a friend's wedding showing him telling overweight women to gain weight and monitoring their food intake. He had been taking Bri to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week. This is the "Dating A FEEDER" title reference.

“"it was like a feeding fetish chubby chaser it wasn't even just chubby chasing feeder"”

QuoteBri describes discovering her feeder ex had been taking her to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week during COVID as part of his feeding behavior. "I thought going out to all you can eat sushi multiple times a week was normal — it's not."

“"going out to all you can eat sushi multiple times a week was normal it's not"”

ControversyNatalie Winters (War Room co-host) debates OnlyFans creators Naomi and Mari on ethics and societal impact of sex work. Argues it destroys nuclear family, is anti-intellectual, and predatory on lonely men. Naomi/Mari defend with companionship and autonomy arguments. Extended debate touches on Christianity, porn addiction, feminist theory.

“"I just think what you guys do is considerably considerably worse for the country for society"”

QuoteMari defends OnlyFans using reincarnation theology: her physical body will not carry to the next life so her current physical choices are irrelevant from a spiritual standpoint.

“"I believe in reincarnation so my body right now this body isn't going to come with me to the next life"”

QuoteNatalie Winters reveals she has been sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party for investigative reporting and has been cited by Congress.

“"I'm sanctioned by the Chinese Communist party because of my investigative reporting I'm cited by Congress"”

OtherSelf-ratings round. Most women rate themselves 10. Mari: 10 (mood-dependent). Emmy: 10. Naomi: 10. Katie: 6. Bri: 8. Brian: 5. Brian declines to validate the 10 self-ratings. Viewer TTS donor assigns ratings by clothing description.

“"ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you"”

ControversyMari suggests men who prefer virgins are "predatory" (pedo-adjacent). Unable to defend argument when Brian challenges with 25-year-old virgin scenario. Says it "just gives the ick." Cannot name 10 books supporting her witchcraft beliefs. Calls Christianity a cult based on a missionary's explanation of grace. Double standard noted: will not make same claim about Islam.

“"it just gives you the ick potentially pword potentially"”

QuoteBody count round: Naomi states body count is "less than 20" and declines exact number. Mari states 5, Brian applies ×3 rule of thumb. Jamill's count of 29 referenced in group.

“"uh five five mhm I'm 22 years old multiply by three and that's the real number"”

QuoteKatie argues people can grow beyond a high body count or promiscuous past. "There's always a lid to every pot" — even someone with an egregious past can find someone who accepts them for who they are now.

“"there's always a lid to every pot so even if you do egregious things when you're younger"”

OtherEnd of show. Brian wraps up around 7:42 AM (running very late). Raids Twitch streamer. Crew signs off.

“"it is quite literally past my bedtime"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status

Nine guests introduce themselves: Mari (22, Orlando, event promoter/OnlyFans), Emmy (22, Bay Area, UCSB sociology), Naomi (26, Phoenix, OnlyFans, returning), Taylor (25, Bay Area, RBT), Kira (24, Bay Area, SBCC comm), Jamill (39, RN/standup comedian, divorced 18yr marriage), Katie (41, OC, optical, single 7yr), Bri (26, Santa Clarita, public health student), Natalie Winters (23, Palm Beach, War Room co-host, returning). Relationship status round: three guests are returning (Naomi, Natalie Winters, and Kira per context). Notable: Jamill recently divorced after husband revealed interest in men and swinging.

Jamill: husband cheated with men / divorce story

Jamill (SPEAKER_10) describes her 18-year marriage ending: husband confessed around year 14-15 that he had been seeing men from Craigslist, then disclosed he wanted to swing with other men and women. She refused and initiated divorce ~2 years ago. Preceded by an extended dead bedroom. She was married 2005. Two kids.

Bri: ex-boyfriend feeder fetish story

Bri (SPEAKER_11) reveals her 5-year ex-boyfriend had a secret feeder/weight-gain fetish. Discovered 400+ messages on his drunk phone at a friend's wedding. Messages showed him monitoring women's food intake pre/post meals, telling them they weren't worthy unless they gained. He had taken Bri to all-you-can-eat sushi multiple times per week. She had gained weight during COVID; he encouraged it. After breakup: had brief revenge sex with 2 men.

OnlyFans debate: ethics, value, and societal impact

Extended debate between Natalie Winters (SPEAKER_14, anti-OnlyFans), Naomi (SPEAKER_03, does OnlyFans), and Mari (SPEAKER_06, does OnlyFans). Natalie argues OnlyFans normalizes commodification of women's bodies and destroys nuclear family. Naomi and Mari argue it provides companionship, is no different from Twitch, and is her choice. Religion debate embedded: Bri (SPEAKER_11, Christian) engages Natalie on Christianity vs. Mari's reincarnation/spiritual worldview. Natalie's credentials: War Room co-host, sanctioned by CCP, cited by Congress. Naomi defends: she was in corporate tech before, does OnlyFans by choice, parents are supportive. Porn addiction debate: Naomi disputes it's scientifically proven; Brian cites Adams et al. 1999.

Christianity vs. OnlyFans / religion and sexuality debate

Embedded in OnlyFans debate: Mari and Naomi defend their work using reincarnation and "it's going to happen anyway" arguments. Bri and Natalie push back from Christian perspective. Mari: "I believe in reincarnation — this body doesn't come with me to the next life." Bri: discusses exit plan from sex work and Christian accountability. Natalie: argues promiscuity has more societal cost for women than men (pair bonding argument). Reference to Michael Knowles's 10-year partying period vs. now being traditional.

Relationship status and single panel details

Brian goes around table examining single women's dating situations. Taylor: 3 years single, 8-month situationship; hookups that didn't become relationships. Kira: 1 year single, not looking (moving). Mari: 1.5-2 years single. Emmy: 6-7 months, not looking (moving). Jamill: FWB 1 month, most serious since divorce. Naomi: 2+ years single. Katie: single 7 years, briefly dated in summer. Bri: just out of 5-year relationship (a few weeks). Natalie: has a man "a little in the picture."

Roster / dating multiple people simultaneously

Brian asks who has dated or slept with multiple people simultaneously. Bri (SPEAKER_11): yes, 2 men after 5-year breakup (revenge sex). Someone (likely Taylor/Emmy, SPEAKER_02): 3-4 people casually in past. Others: mixed; most say no roster or just casual overlap. Mari: relationship girl; doesn't maintain a roster. Natalie: "never had a roster."

Partner preferences round

Brian asks each guest desired partner income and number of kids. Mari: min $50k; 3 kids. Emmy: just financially stable; ~2 kids (unsure). Naomi: depends on lifestyle; 3-5 kids. Taylor: stable; 2 kids max. Kira: not specified clearly. Jamill: enough for kids to live comfortably. Katie: at least $75-80k; one child (done; IUD). Bri: stability; stay-at-home mom early on; 2 kids. Natalie: more than her father (infectious disease doctor); 2-3+ kids (above replacement). Brian: would marry if she's rich and has large labia (joke/tangent).

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Viewer (Stiffler) asks panel to rate looks 1-10. Order (going around table): Mari: 10 (mood-dependent; sometimes 1). Emmy: 10. Naomi: 10. Someone (Taylor or Kira): 7. Someone: 6. Someone (Jamill): 7 approx. Katie: 6. Bri: 8. Natalie: did not explicitly state (donor rated her ~6.8). Brian: 5. Brian declines to assign ratings to guests ("you guys are not tens — no offense"). Donor TTS: "natal 6.8 Raven hair 7 used baggage 3 mamas San 2 obes blond 2 bimbo 4 a cup bimbo 3 deep voice C four goth thard."

League theory / men sleeping outside their league

Brian explains theory: women get rejected on the back end, men on the front end. Men will sleep with women below their league but not commit; this creates situationships when women overestimate their league. "Your league is who you can get commitment from, not who you can sleep with." Debate over whether women who self-rate high are delusional. Extended discussion with Emmy (SPEAKER_02) who says rating is subjective/pointless. "Will you be more attractive in 10-20 years?" round: Most guests say yes; Brian calls it delusional for those over 22. Exception: Bri (26) says no, youthfulness peaks earlier.

Would you date a World of Warcraft player

Brian asks if guests would date a WoW player (7-14 hrs/day). Emmy: 7 hours is a lot but if he's making money streaming, ok. Bri: no (it's too much time). Mari: if he's a Twitch streamer making money, maybe. Katie: her ex/baby daddy played Dungeons & Dragons. Brian discusses Season of Discovery Phase 3, raid composition, guild leader responsibilities, split-raiding for loot. Twitch raid from "Stay Safe" mid-show.

Plastic surgery / cosmetic procedures debate

Brian reconfirms natural body supremacist position. Prefers: flat chest over implants, natural labia over labiaplasty, natural lips over filler, natural belly over lipo, natural ass over BBL. Naomi reveals she got a labiaplasty during her year of celibacy (2022). Brian: "that's a dagger to my heart." Katie: former esthetician; left beauty industry over values conflicts. Discussion of who is to blame for unrealistic beauty standards: majority say "a little bit of both" (men and women). Brian: biological male preferences (large butts, big breasts) drive some of it, but not blame per se. Natalie: cosmetics companies and social media are primary drivers.

Abortion debate

Brief abortion discussion triggered by chat TTS. Emmy (SPEAKER_02): abortion acceptable for emergency situations; not a simple issue. Bri (SPEAKER_11): values life; stricter position. Brian: returns to topic briefly then moves on.

Who should pay on dates

Brian asks who should pay on a first date. Mari and Naomi: whoever asks should pay. Emmy: man should pay to show he's courting. Bri: traditional — man should pay. Katie: split down the middle (first couple dates); once in relationship, alternating. Natalie: man pays as provider expression. Brian: suboptimal to pay for women who made prior men wait but now won't make you wait.

Last name debate: would you take husband's name

Brian asks if women would take husband's last name. Most say yes or probably yes. Bri: yes (traditional). Natalie: yes. Mari: probably yes but depends on last name. Katie and others: probably/open to it.

Virgin preference / "pedo" debate

Mari (SPEAKER_06) suggests men who prefer virgin women may be "predatory" (pedo adjacent). Brian challenges: is a 25-year-old virgin woman's male admirer a pedo? Mari cannot explain her argument; says it "gives the ick." Brian: are Christian and Muslim men who prefer virgins PWs? Mari says yes for Christians, avoids comment on Muslims. Bri (SPEAKER_11) and Natalie (SPEAKER_14) push back as Christians. Mari calls Christianity a "cult" due to her interpretation of grace/salvation doctrine. Bri explains Christian theology on free will and grace. Brian notes double standard: Mari criticizes Christianity but not Islam.

Body count round

Brian asks guests for body counts. Mari (SPEAKER_06): 5 (Brian applied ×3 skepticism). Naomi (SPEAKER_03): declined ("less than 20"). Group count round: "Angel nine, 29" called out — Jamill stated 29. Bri (SPEAKER_11): less than 10 (only within relationships). Natalie Winters (SPEAKER_14): declined to disclose. Brian: declined ("personal rule not to disclose"). Extended debate: does body count define a person? Katie (SPEAKER_12): disagrees — people can change and grow. Natalie: there is a meaningful difference between men's and women's promiscuity impacts.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswoman was promiscuous there and let's say that she was dating multiple men sleeping with multiple men at the same time there would be no way to know who the father

Brian Atlasis and obviously PE men want to ensure paternity they want to be sure that the child is in fact theirs it's one of the biggest LS that you can take in your life as a man is to raise a kid that you

Brian Atlasthink is yours but actually isn't uh so I've heard that story a lot are you laughing at paternity fraud is that no funny to you no it's not

Marifunny yeah do you think it's funny I don't think it's funny I think it's uh actually I think it should be criminalized to be honest I I do this thing where like when I'm uncomfortable I laugh so whatever I get it people

Brian Atlaslaugh when they're uncomfortable cool uh so I mean that's a big part of it so yeah and it honestly just it's kind of gross it's just kind of

Brian Atlasgross agreed for women or for everyone I think look if women can feel gross about it too like when it comes to promiscuity like would you feel a little gross for

Brian Atlasexample and I'm using extreme example here to make my point probably okay okay she doesn't even want to hear it here um would you feel a little grossed out for

Brian Atlasexample if a guy had sex with a girl and then then like within that same day went and had sex with you yeah it's a body count but yeah well it's a little

Naomidifferent but the same it's kind of related though it's a little it's related to promiscuity so if for example like you hooked up with a girl today M

Unknownand then I that's what you about to say begin again again should I just walk away guys

Naomiwant we can go we can wrap it up for y you guys anyways what I was going to say is if if theoretically right that's

Naomidisgusting no no no not the the the the promis cuy thing sorry yeah yeah that's what I because I was about to go off calm down relax it's good can I finish my question Okay cool so if you have a a

Naomibig body count right cuz you didn't disclose because you don't want to and that's fair if it means a lot to you it doesn't really matter go ahead go ahead but if you have a big body count but you're only hooking up with one person

Naomiright now how does that affect anything what do you mean if you never disclose that to them they never ask you would you expect someone to judge you off of your body count theoretically if it's

MariHigh I mean I'm pretty sure it is why' you say that cuz you're flirty no he's I can tell I'm just kidding she can tell I'm a virgin no maybe not a virgin uh if a

Naomigirl wanted to disqualify me because of my body count I that's fine with it if that was never even a topic of conversation is that a red flag to you like does that really matter what do you

Naomiwhat's the question like how do I phrase it um I want to put like you in that position if calm down body count is high why are you getting nervous but now like

Naomiyou're only hooking up with one person like your past doesn't really affect right now you're talking about like hooking up with multiple people at the same time that's like not the same

Brian Atlasthing it's kind of related cuz it's related to promise cue right body count is or body count is proxy for promiscuity now I agree with you for

Brian Atlasexample a woman to to to steal man your position let's say a woman had sex with a hundred men right okay but then she didn't have sex for 3 years right my

Brian Atlasexample that I provided would not be a a strong argument to make because well how does the disgust F Factor come into this because she's been celibate for 3 years you could still I could actually maybe still make an argument that it's kind of

Brian Atlasstill disgusting but let's assume she doesn't even have STDs she's totally clean still kind of there's still kind of I'm still kind of gr out in your head

Brian Atlastype of thing cuz it's like she's clean and she hasn't had sex in 3 years so it's just what's happened but okay let's say let's say she's has a high body count and she's still being promiscuous

Brian Atlasokay so body count would be proxy for her promiscuity and then it stands to reason that she's been perhaps sexually active recently and then it would be

Brian Atlaslike an actual physical disgust over you just somebody else that's a different story there maybe

Brian Atlasseeds Brian hey it takes a couple days a day 24 48 hours can live never it's never leaked out days it's never leaked out like seven hours later come

Naomion ladies oh my God calm down bro relax I'm the sex don't get too excited here Jesus Christ I should have said that my bad um

Brian Atlasokay let's see Bri Brianna you're very conservative Christian pro-life anti-p porn anti- only fans you used to post scandalous pictures before the only fans days you got a lot of attention which has

Brian Atlastrickled into your adult life has kept you in negative Cycles friendships relationships lifestyle habits don't benefit you you wanted to share the other side of modesty and how different life is for me now that you uphold

Brian Atlasyourself from a place of integrity and respect and that sex work doesn't have to be the only way to be a young successful adult yeah okay go ahead I need to get

Briup really quick yeah go ahead speak um so I very far from this mic I'm sorry um you can encroach sorry

Brihey no so I never this was before only fans like was a thing um just like on Instagram and social media whatever I'd post bikini pics scandalous pics butt

Brishot like all whatever I was like 18 1920 and um that validation from a man felt really good I mean I'm not making money off of or I wasn't making money

Brioff of it and it was very superficial but I did um exchange sexual favors for other things and I and I did do the whole like sugar baby thing for a while

Briand I thought that made me feel good I thought that gave me the validation and I thought it was empowering and I thought it was everything that you know adult sucess successful woman in that

Brirealm um could achieve and all that it really did was it it just made my wounds that I had preexisting uh bigger and it kind of trickled into every other aspect of my life and that's not to say that's

Brithe same for everyone obviously not um but now like I am more modest and I and I have learned from the trauma that I have allowed myself to be a part

Briof because the way I did not respect myself men didn't respect me a man is only going to respect you as much as you respect you and if and if it's a higher standard than they want to provide the trash takes itself out and it's kind of

Brinot something you have to deal with and I feel like um because of my past I haven't upheld myself I haven't upheld and respected my boundaries I didn't have boundaries for a very long time and I just think that it's so important and

Brieven if you're in the industry I think it's important to have boundaries and to know what that looks like for you um and that and that the reason why you you may be doing things whether that be sex work whether that be the p word whether that

Bribe um any anything um I think that there's a deeper meaning behind why you feel like that is the only thing you can bring to the table and I and I believe that there's more that you can contribute to society because at one

Bripoint that's not what I believed at one point I thought that I'm pretty and I can get what I want and that's not the way the world works and the world will um chew you up and spit you out and then you're going to have to look at yourself

Brione day and and pick up the pieces and truly beauty is a depreciating asset and you're not going to be young and beautiful for as long as you think you are and one day you will have to start

Briover and there will be a gap in your resume and and you will have to explain that and it's just I feel so deeply for women that go through you know only fans and and do porn and stuff like that um

Bribecause there are better ways to be self-expressive and to have companionship and to have that type of connection and I just um I I just think it takes courage to see that and acknowledge that and it takes courage to

Brimove forward and move past that what was your Catalyst for changing being so broken and knowing that I caused it yes someone else hurt me cheated on me physically abused me

Bribut it was ultimately because I didn't respect my own boundaries for the sake of love or attention or a relationship that's why I hurt myself is this the feeder Guy this is my last two

Naomirelationships but um essentially it's because my lack of own my own self-respect allowed these things to happen huh that's all I respect your opinion and I respect where you're coming from and your experiences I would

Naomicounter that and say yeah I mean I worked in corporate so I had a normal job I did that I did the whole thing I got a Premed degree I worked in Tech I I did that life um and ultimately like Corporate America is the

Naomibiggest pimps out there so I am my own CEO I have my own escort I run my own business every day and just because morally it doesn't align with what you believe in which is totally

Briokay that doesn't mean that my business is any less like than what you do for living no no absolutely and I'm not trying to sit here saying that I'm better than you by any means or or saying that because you know morally it

Brian Atlasgoes you have an escorp yeah for your only pans mhm why not just in the LLC tax bracket Court T oh okay but my

Naomipoint is is that wait couldn't you just be an LLC and elect to get taxed as an es Corp we're not okay all right I know I know why does have to just not true I don't care I'm just saying it's a

Brian Atlasbusiness at the end of the day like I know I don't even like to bring that to the table type of conversation because no but I understand for the sake of business why wait chat hold on let me let me go into some CPA

Brian Atlaschat can't you be an LLC and elect to be taxed as an es Corp like as if you I could be wrong I I don't know okay

Brian Atlasanyways am I right what was the last thing they were saying you can be in LLC and just elect and that would you wouldn't have to like do uh hours or what what's it called I don't know what

Naomiokay sorry derailing sorry just filed the paperwork so any like a couple weeks ago all I'm saying is that you're beautiful and you're smart I do plan to give back though and that's like part of like what my plan is so you asked

Naomiearlier I think I don't know which one of you did but like do you have an exit plan I mean I plan to do this as long as it still makes me happy and I wake up every day and I'm not like miserable um I know it does have mental effects on a lot of people but like me personally I

Naomidon't feel that way like I can genuinely say like I don't feel that way I actually felt way more stressed and unhappy every day waking up reporting to a people that didn't respect me ex you

Naomihave a very lightent energy I could tell you're like a genuine happy not the Antichrist definely the Antichrist not sorry what no she's but um W yeah no

NaomiI like completely agree like from your perspective I know a lot of people always try to like talk me out of what I do and like not saying you're trying to talk me out of it but just saying your perspective and that's why we're here you know like I respect everyone's

Briopinions I just don't agree yeah and you totally don't have to agree I just agree to disagree I just see that there's so much more potential in you and in all of

TTS Donation Readerthese Joey donated $100 ladies may I sell you a Hermes purse it was worn by 30 other women in countless photos all around the world

TTS Donation Readerit's also 35 years old and full of other people's stuff can I get full price is it a Burkin or a Kelly oh yo Joey thank you man

Mariappreciate theology Hermes

Brian Atlasmythology word okay where where were we were we trying to convert her out of being I'm not trying to I'm not trying to con she

Naomiwhere she came from and her Evolution from like posting bikini pics and more scandalous photos to where she's at now and I think that's respect I respect that cuz you are very set and I respect you for that on what you want in your traditional lifestyle like I want that

Britoo but like not right now and I'm not looking for it so I just I just fear the day that you wake up and you're like I have this Gap in my life this time in my life that I can't get back and it's like

Briyou could have been using this time to be working on other um in my opinion more beneficial um things in your life and that's not to say what you're that what you're doing won't be successful or

Briwon't have longevity um I just worry about the morality your your characteristics and what you can bring to just Society generally not that what you're doing is inherently evil or

Brihorrible or the Antichrist or the Antichrist by any means but I just think that people that do sex work um can find better outlets and better ways to contribute to society as all my with

Naomithat yeah but it's not to demonize I mean I'm gonna use my Capital to to do positive things I do positive things a lot I just talk about never sent in a Super Chat to the whatever channel that

Brian Atlaswould be a positive First Step no I should start taxing like okay you got to if you come on the what podcast you got to do a $100 TTS a free show um okay

Brian Atlaswhatever Sierra you in your pre-show notes you said there's crazy story wait it's Kira oh my bad Kira carara uh you got stood up you got stood up God

Brian Atlasyeah what what happened okay I met this guy at um wild cat um and he came up to me are I'm good have you ever like drank water and it just like hits the back of

Brian Atlasyour throat I was like oh bro that was about to be really embarrassing but I resc throwed that bit you've never had that where you like throw it back and you like nearly die

Brian Atlasyeah throw it back and you almost die go that sounded crazy hey hey hey this is a this is this this is a familyfriendly show so not get your get your head out

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)of the gutter got that look get out of the gutter okay go ahead you got up this guy uh came up to me at Wildcat and was like you're so pretty like I want to

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)like hang out with you all this stuff got his contact information and then like basically leading up to the date he was like saying like how excited he was and whatever and I was like okay cool like I'm excited too we've hung out a

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)few times before but just like not like a date setting um and then we were going to go see a movie and then I was like okay pick me up at like 700 cuz the movie was at 7:30 and then he just never

Naomiended up picking me up and I haven't heard from him since D so I'm was this recently yeah he didn't even text you his name no no he should have been the one that was like I'm picking you up at 7 see like

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)that's where you need like well cuz we were both like kind of talking about it though I don't know it was just weird like I was just it was just weird how like the whole week leading up to it he was like oh my God I can't wait and then like he didn't show up and I was like

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)did something happen you still haven't talked to him no wait are you guys housemates roommates we still we me and Emmy are housemates but I wanted to add

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)that he texted her like an hour before yeah ghosted her yeah no like he was texting up until tell I'm on my way and then nothing and then you heard from no did you send him a message like hey what

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)happened I said well the last message I sent to him was I was like you know like the movie is at 730 right at 7 that's yeah at like 7:00 so like what was that like I would have rather him just be

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)like hey I don't want to go on this date with you anymore cuz I'm like okay that's fine I have no like expectations from you I was just excited to go see the Bob Marley movie didn't happen a it was super I don't know and then like I

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)weirdly felt embarrassed about it but now I'm like okay it's not me weird weird of it's not you it's up I know up up um Kevin I'm

Brian Atlasjust kidding that's that's we can call him Kevin do you two have any things that you want to hit on dating relationship topics you guys didn't get the opportunity to talk too

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)much anything from you um home I don't know nothing that comes to mind like straight yeah feel like it just would like it flows it flows I want to know everybody's opinion on

TTS Donation Readerthat story though like what do you think it was oh what do we like what do you think happened wait how long ago was this Joey donated I love this podcast it reminds

TTS Donation Readerme of why I won't survive on the dating scene in 38 days I marry a women where I was her first mate three carrots went on

Brian Atlasher finger girls smarten up King of DIY king of do it yourself you got a YouTube channel or something uh doing

Brian Atlassome household projects uh three carrots he died thank you much not for your for your uh TTS man uh congrats on your wedding you said in 38 days I hope it

Brian Atlasgoes well and uh but yeah dude the dating scene right now is kind of brutal so uh congrats on your uh that thing wait you were saying what what was what yeah what do you think happened to

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)him to him wait so give us a little backstory you guys you guys hooked up maybe huh had you guys like hooked up previously this was like a casual hookup yeah we've we've hooked up before yeah you the whole like the whole entire time

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)he was like I like want to take you out like on a date like d like all this stuff and I was like okay cool like whatever I'm down and then yeah up like I'm saying like up until like an hour

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)before we're supposed to go on this date nothing something better came up it's just he went to a women's sporting game a women's sporting game he went to a

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)WNBA game good for him yeah girl it's it better to know now yeah well I mean yeah I mean it's not like I like you can wasn't expecting like much from anything

Brian Atlasbut it would have been like I don't know like uh definitely I'm not looking for relationship right now but you know ra definitely wrong of him to have sort of essentially set up this plan for with

Brian Atlasyou and not communicate with you at all he should have even if he didn't want to go he could have just said hey can we reschedule or and I mean at least like a even though yeah he should have at least

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)told you cuz then you were probably waiting around what's going on well the thing is like I got I like got home from work I got ready I put all this time in and then up and like literally texting

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)me while I'm getting ready and then like never shows up she also canell another date yeah I had another date for hold on now that's true I forgot about that part

Brian Atlastriggered Brian hold on now I don't feel so bad all of a sudden no no she you canel so you had a date well I rescheduled the other date because I wanted that's why he's upet

Brian Atlaswait hold on so you rescheduled when did you have the other date planned the the wait so was this like a spontaneous hey babe I want to take you to a movie it

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)was like that day that he wanted to do the movie no like we he texted me on Sunday and we were like oh we like we should go to a movie or I mentioned

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)basically so on sun last yeah yeah last Sunday I think I don't remember um we were texting and I was like oh like I'm kind of like I want to have like a chill weekend like I kind of want to go to a

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)movie and see like the Bob Marley movie and he was like yeah I want to see that too like let me take you on a date that'll be like our first date and I was like okay and then but you already had

Brian Atlasanother date planned for that date yes pre previously pre-planned yeah with a a different dude yes and you cancelled how much notice did I didn't

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)cancel I re oh as soon as like you rescheduled the date I rescheduled the date yes damn that's exactly the situation I like I said I am dating like

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)I am out and like I'm dating people um um but I cancelled or rescheduled that date like right then like I didn't make him wait forever don't feel I don't feel

Brian Atlasas bad the guy was still wrong for just fullon ghosting you and not telling you hey I'm not going to pick you up I'm just surprised there was no sub I mean it sounds like he's just straight up

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)ghosting you now though yeah it wasn't like there was an emergency or is he is he alive I would assume so okay he's ghosting you then he is alive we actually saw his snap M that's awkward

Brian Atlaswe know he's up times um shout out to you dick move on his part A Little Less bad though because because I rescheduled my other date you dating multiple guys

Brian Atlasat the same time so don't feel a whole bunch of pity but it was what he did was wrong what he did was wrong definitely would that's a terrible position are you even happy with that situation where

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)you're like dating multiple people well it's not like I'm dating like a million men I'm just like going out on dates like people ask me out on on a date and I'm going to go on it and see like where things go but don't you like but aren't

Brian Atlasthere like don't you meet a guy and you just there's one guy you really like and you want to like really pursue that one guy if she likes him yeah if I like them

Brian Atlassure but will you still be dating other men while you're no like if I if I want to don't even really you're sleeping with man you don't even really like that much okay shouldn't you at least like the guy if you're going to sleep well

Brian AtlasI'm not saying that I don't like the men that I like not necessarily you just want to the dude you don't have that feeling are you a spite I I hate this guy so much

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)I'm going to him you know me yeah where come from well okay like I said um I'm not looking for a relationship right now I am like in the dating pool like the dating scene I would like to meet people and if I meet a guy that I end up

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)really liking then yeah I'm going to stick to that one guy but I haven't really found that yet but I can't really gauge that off of one date like I so the guy that I reschedule we already had a

Brian Atlasdate before so then this would have been our second date I don't know if I just like crazy women I don't think they're crazy though I just want here's the

Brian Atlasthing for me if I'm dating a girl like I don't want her to want other guys like I have to be the only guy in the picture if we go on a first date you want a

Brian Atlassecond date all the other guys has to be a rap preferably there's just no guys AG preferably there's just no guys at all in the picture when we even first meet I agree it's rare though yeah what and you

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)were saying something about your situation you're like seeing this one guy but there's kind of you're dating arounds kind of yeah and by the way to preface dating doesn't mean like I'm taking home all these people and

Brian Atlassleeping with them Maybe not maybe not cuz I'm not maybe not but like for example if I was like if I was dating any of you like

Brian Atlasthat yikes yikes yeah God myin take it off my brain take it off my brain sorry bro you were like mad trying to flirt

Briwith me back there St chill bro you were it's aelf yo you've been like I the out of me the entire show chill the out bro I think you should just

Brian Atlashave a fight a whatever Fight Club and just are you okay bro you want to me chill out dude what the are you okay I'm not about it like I mean I'd literally rather like like I'm not word

Unknownon live you want to you want to say one thing say one thing you guys like about each other hell yeah bro that's you guys like about each other cheers I don't think he cares about

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)like literally right now what you want that wait Taylor said a good point now say something that you like about each other one thing that you like about her one thing you like about him do it good

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)point Taylor fing thank you Taylor fingle plumber H been told me that's what me and my plumber husband do bring a full circle so what I like about him

Mariyeah yes one thing um get I think I think he's smarter than he actually is perceiving himself of her he's smarter than he

Mariperceives himself to be or maybe he'll get there like you think that I think I'm I'm like stupid then I think you're I think you're very smart but I don't think you're at the point that you

Marishould be at yet that's nice that's nice that's the most back I don't think I'm at that point either do better I don't think I'm at

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)that point either she's for you now tell her I need to say something nice to her say something thing your turn and not some and yeah don't do like a backhanded ass compliment or something like that

Mariit's okay if you do I can take it I'm a big girl I'm proud of you that I think you're

Brian Atlassober you think I think she's super I don't know you seemed a little at the beginning of the show little you know okay you know you know what I

Marimean yeah was that good was that no was that good it was okay it I feel like you could have done a lot better I think you can do a lot better I hi guys I like I

Marihonestly I really do like promote sobriety and like addiction like all of that because I've dealt with addiction I've dealt with my family's addiction everything

Mariso I'm sober I have my key tag if you want to see it like few more things before we wrap up and just to finish on that point I will

Brian Atlassay that at least when it comes to dating I want immediate near immediate how do I normally frame this I want I'm blanking sorry it's been a long

Maripodcast almost at seven hours cutting it exactly that's why people think

Brian AtlasI'm I want exclusive I want uh not exclusive I want immediate loyalty no tired what's that fa though yes thank

Brian Atlasyou Nick the thank you godam I want undivided romantic and sexual attention immediately if if your romantic attention is divided in other words

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)you're dating other men I I lose interest so does that going both ways though like yeah are you willing to do the same are you willing to do the same

Brian Atlaswhat you mean yeah okay great yeah work perfect are you still single Brian if I okay if I was in a relationship ship I wouldn't disclose it

Brian Atlason the podcast that's all I'm going to say just figured I'd ask again so wait oh Nick let's pull up some of the tabs actually wait chats wait no hold on guys go to Twitch if you're watching on

Brian AtlasYouTube guys please go to twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one twitch.tv whatever just open up another tab drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you're

Brian Atlaswatching over there on Twitch drop us a follow drop us a prime sub oh we just hit the 7even hour mark okay we're going to definitely wrap up soon promise promise here five five minutes 10 minutes

Mariwhatever that's why they think I'm off drugs I'm been sitting here for six hours no caffeine nothing I got up at 4:00 a.m. this morning my flight was at 700 a.m. yeah literally I have jet lag

Brian Atlaslike guys twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow if you're on Twitch just give us a little follow in the chat no food drop us a prime if yo Slayer thank for the uh

Brian AtlasPrime uh Jeremy thank you for the follow thank thank you all for all the follows guys oh okay you can oh uh also we need

Brian Atlasto pull up these chats here EOG demise ladies 304 short and Curly's preference what I love how they said

Brian Atlasladies is 304 this code is that yeah definitely definitely the a code uh short and Curly's preference is this like grooming down there is that what this is about that's what I'm assuming

Naomiyeah so is this he's asking your preference in men our preference in men yeah do you guys have a preference on that front I don't have a preference no I'm

Marigrown no problem don't care you want a jungle it I wouldn't be happy with a jungle okay thank you deep diing that

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)jungle maybe like into the mic into the mic not the jungle but not the the trim not explore the Wilderness I would say

Katietrimmed it don't matter to me he I do not like it when a guy is bald I like him to be a man and have hair be a man have hair

Brian Atlasokay yeah I don't have a preference no preference uh ditto with what she said all right EO thank you man Tommy emo girl is so actually let me have you read it go ahead D oh sorry go ahead read it

Marioh me yeah IM girl is so brain that she made the other girl look like Isa Newton who's the other girl I'm assuming all right the only other yeah to hear thank

Brian Atlasyou but that's kind of rude to her no you're good W Isaac Newton yes he's a very smart man is this Argentinian I think it's the Argentinian currency

Brian Atlasmaybe maybe not thank you man appreciate it uh Nick can you pull up the first thing that we were going to react to oh guys so okay this is this is what you guys might be very curious because I know you

Brian Atlasguys you know given your admissions during the show I'm sure you're all dying to know what I'm looking for in a woman this is this is I think what is this the Bowing video yeah all right go

Brian Atlasahead Nick boom did you see the bow did you guys see the bow huge get the rocks oh great okay we'll read that in the one that had a labia place to get the Rocks question for all

Brian Atlaswould you date a man who checked out the boxes but was ad adamantly vegan just an aversion toward violence to animals in any fashion we'll get to that in the SEC Crocs uh here's video this is this is great uh play it one more time here in just a

Brian Atlassec yo SL slay Slayer GTX thank you for the gifted 20 Subs man appreciate it uh pull it back up let's see the bow one more time look at this huge boom Brian I

Brian Atlasthink I think though she probably has had plastic surgery though she looks well I wasn't making I'm not saying like that's the I don't get it epitome of the physical appearance that I think is an

Brian Atlasattractive girl but it was more so the Biv it's the bow okay we'll get an Asian girl then she doesn't I'm going to get a white girl to bow to me or an Asian girl

Naomigood luck with that I can I'll um but in terms of the labia plassy to address the comment I think that's a very bold statement to make because you don't know why I had it

Brian Atlasdone does that make sense I don't think he was even he just said get the Rocks care to elaborate yeah I mean like like he just said get the

Brian AtlasRocks okay so then let me just shut the up then based um would you the question is would you date a man who checked all the boxes but wait actually hold on before

Brian Atlaswe do that would you guys be willing great guy would you be willing if he wanted you to bow for him would you do

Mariit repeat it repeat I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry would you would you be willing to bow for a guy would I be willing to bow for a guy

Brian Atlasno no okay does he bow for me too no he wants you to Bow him no I'm Asians I'm down maybe like a

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)curtsy can you show us a curtsy no right now my legs are numb from the way I've been saying this um maybe as a joke but probably

Naominot yes yeah it's like a sign of respect though for Asian people have a different like view of it it's not so much like

Bria it's like respect okay what does that make sense yeah thinking of it you wouldn't bow would you bow um actually my last relationship we were in an argument one

Briof our last arguments um he thought he had the upper hand and and demanded I got on my knees and bow down to him and you did I said get out of my house we're done good good good that and that I

Katiewould never don't know how many men I've had bow down to me it's amazing Brian were you halfway I feel like you were halfway asking us another question and then we got interrupted by

KatieSuper Chat am I maybe I know I think all of us would you bow would you bow oh there you go there Natalie would bow bow Natalie you're a different woman by the end of this podcast and you were in the

Bribeginning isn't that like the definition of submissive yeah but like in all aspects you would bow whether that be like isn't that submitting to your well I don't it is but like that was an Asian

Naomiwoman and like that's the stereotype also but that's also a cultural thing of like respect cultural cultural appropriation think let's go I'm

Naomiculturally appropriating I feel like I don't know I love when people indulge in like no you don't like it Asian culture I don't think there's anything that wrong yeah I don't think that's it's like not yeah okay but instead

Brian Atlaswhite people have bowed throughout the years on no I'm saying in that scenario I'm not going to wait hold on I'm not going to allow you to claim cultural ownership of the bow I didn't say you want to start talking about dreads we can talk about dreads let's talk about

Brian Atlasdreads you want to talk about you want to talk about I don't even know where I'm going I was just saying like never mind we're not going to get into it would you date a guy who culturally appropriated you're the ter

Marigoing around the table wait would you date a guy who culturally appropriated no like he just wore um oh wait is he educated is he educated no I

Brian Atlaswas I wasn't going to say that I was going to say like uh like a sombrero is he educated like a white guy wearing a sombrero but that's what like people don't have issue with would that be cultural appropriation is he educated on

Katiethe tradition on the history I think it depends on if it's maliciously intent to to cultur like he likes if if it's you genuinely like a particular style here

Naomiwhat what would you do guy who Cally appropriated depends like how bad it is okay I mean if they're trying to be rude

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)and like hurtful that's a different situation like you gave the example the example you're like oh if you wore Sombrero yeah I would give a you

Brian AtlasSomo like just the the whest guy you know just rocking a sombrero I think I like genuinely like sorry you're good I

Brian AtlasI need to stop talking I think some that's a Mexican thing right I'm hisan I you're looking at yeah it's Mexican yeah they were in Colombia too

Katiesometimes okay I'm not going to get canceled here um would yes cultural appropriator would you date a cultural appropriator I think it like I said if it was not maliciously intended I think

Katieif it was just a something that he thought you know was interesting or looked cool or resonated with okay all right good good good talk uh where were

Brian Atlaswe oh we were doing the bow does anyone object to the bow like I'm not not a fan of the bow I would bow I mean is anybody down to to just do a bow right now not to me oh

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)guys don't do it can we see a bow don't do it don't do it don't do it that's standing you want to do a standing I'll do standing bow just yeah what I'm Asian

Naomianyway right like racist okay how would that be racist I don't we both agreed on that we're the only two Asian people in this room that I know of I don't know it's going to get CLI and it's like I'm

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)asking for her to bow to me she just bowed down to him she identifies as a black man though so it's okay right that's what you said at the start of the show you said you're black man people mistake me for a black man

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)when they hear my name your name that's can I see B identify as mil want to see Gustavo do a say that you do a b yes Gustavo bows down to

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)me right now I will bow down to Gustavo I like this Gustavo do you want a girlfriend oh em Em's

Brian Atlaslooking getting a position who are you bowing down to Gustavo let's see it no wow that was no no no no no come on do do it for real she that's how low he

Brian Atlaswent God that's so bad I'm sorrys really bad what what's really bad the Bowing down huh okay uh what are the other things

Brian AtlasNick let's pull up the other thing we needed to do oh guys so okay sorry but I should have prefaced this we're going to do a segment called would you date this man would you date this man I'm going to show you two guys two profiles oh the

Brian Atlasbow isn't necessarily showing weakness as most of you on the panel think it's a symbol of showing respect we guys don't really want to Bow they made that very clear andung four times no we know Kung

TTS Donation Readermade it very clear thank you slay appreciate it we have oh hold on Jack isore Chan donated

TTS Donation Reader$100 39 years old all right gay cheat is insane after 18 years Friends with Benefits isn't ideal doesn't make you a

Naomi304 young ones should listen to you wisdom takes time help them # laia plastin of ear again I can't undo it thank you you're clearly you follow I

Naomithink he's like 6 hours behind on the podcast but oh cuz he was talking about your it's almost like a fixation though if you're interested just go

Brian Atlaslook okay all right would you date this man would you date this man his name is Zach he's um he's a very

Katienice guy he's a friend of mine I'm trying to get him set up with a a lady he looks like Nicholas Cage in the first picture yeah he's handsome he does uh he has an axe there in the the third one

Brian Atlasscroll down so uh he's a great guy wonderful man uh great guy how old

Brian Atlasis he uh not sure he looks like he Liv in his mom's basement yeah uh

Brian Atlaswell did I nail it listen let's not let's not jump to conclusions here this just so going around the table going around the table would you date

Brihim yeah no no that guy is not my type not your type no okay no no cuz I don't know if he's funny but also let's say no

BriI wouldn't no okay no no no no I feel like I can outlift him huh no okay but I'm not trying to date right now this let me now let me give you a bit more

Brian Atlasinformation about who he is his name oh God his gamer name is asmin gold oh he's a gamer he's one of the top okay he's one of the top streamers on

Brian AtlasTwitch he's probably he owns some companies he's a millionaire many many times over he's Rich all around good

Brian Atlasdude and he's again one of the top twitch streamers does that change anything for anybody all I hear is material items physical he could retire you you never have to work a day in your

Brian Atlaslife all you have to do is make him steak and bring him his sodas and door dashes I would burn the steak on accident so like it wouldn't work out I care about

Brian AtlasSoul oh okay all right Zach I tried I'm sorry uh next one we have another guy here his name is

Brian AtlasFelix uh okay a little different here you know uh scroll down a little bit all right this is Felix yep okay I think I know him and uh yeah Felix there it is

Brian Atlasand uh he's a close friend close friend of mine and uh we go way back and uh yeah you know he's he's a good guy there he's a he loves animals he's

Brian Atlascats and um I have six dogs yeah so would you date this man starting

Mariwith you go ahead like I said I'm not looking for someone right now but yes no

Katieno no no yes oh you said he was a cat guy I think he likes dogs too oh okay

Katiemaybe okay I have a problem with dudes or just people in general where their whole feet is just pictures of selfies I

Katiejust think it's a little vein or just self-absorbed so no okay no no now does

Brian Atlasit change anything to know that this person who goes by xqc online he's one of the top twitch streamers he signed a deal with a

Brian Atlascompany called Kick for I believe what was it 100 million I've heard of that website right how much was it Nick something like that he signed like a couple year deal with kick for a100

Brian Atlasmillion he's he's Rich wow successful status does it

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)change anything nothing exactly nope I'm sorry I'm sorry Felix I tried yeah Felix I'm interested what I before she knew she you're interested I also already

Briknew who that was oh you knew who it was I watch him all these are your friends right or like acquaintances like you know de friends yes they're dear friends where's Sean pull up Sean Sean I don't

Brian Atlasknow how to find oh Sean I don't know Sean I don't know we'll have to find it um but yeah so sorry guys I tried my best no I was I didn't you said not your Tye what's your type just

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)curious a man that looks like he's holding up a fish in his Hing that's my type mle syrup it's true someone who owns Bass Pro Shop

Unknownhat flannels she knows what she wants yeah she knows what she likes yeah that's good all right uh last thing Nick and then we're going to wrap we're going

Katieto react to this um you oh is is this the girls expect the guys to pay on the first date worth of make it money on their

Brian Atlasface makeup yeah uh just play it I don't think we need audio actually just put the audio really quick just to see if or okay yeah it's nothing let it it's going to just replay

Brian Atlasso we'll just let it replay so she's adding up all the makeup and all the her cost and she's in the caption it says we didn't even wait oh she's basically why men should pay for the first date oh

Brian Atlasbecause of all the makeup she had to of these going around yeah I get it I understand and she's adding up the cost total cost of the products that she's

Katieusing and she so this is why it's not a man's responsibility to sponsor a girl's lifestyle especially if they're just dating I agree with her yeah I also

Brian Atlasthink you're starting the toal total 758 why men should pay on the first a so so we've seen it a couple times um I'm curious though going around the table I want to start on this side what is the

Mariflaw in what she's arguing here what she said like it's not up to him like it's her she could have G gone with no makeup that's her fault for going with a full

Mariface of makeup you know but anybody see the actual flaw with what she's doing well I see it as it's the expectation what is she bringing to the table years to become and then also for the cloud

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)she's clearly doing it for the clout so but does anybody see the the like if you're looking at the map math does anybody see the flaw like you're saying she did the math wrong she did it for she did do it wrong she did do it wrong

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)all the makeup products that she had but like you know each date like a fraction of the price that's what I think the makeup has nothing to do with the date is basically right it's basically like

Brian Atlasarguing let's say I I'm a I'm a rich man and I bought a Lamborghini and because I'm picking you up on the date that

Brian Atlasmeans that you now like owe me the C like the cost of the entire Lamborghini it's ridiculous um so that's that's exactly what I was kind of looking for is

Brian Atlaswell in total that's what those products cost but if you're using say one 100th of it well okay and some guy actually did the math and like broke down all

Brian Atlasthat stuff that she was applying and it came out to like 12 bucks total per face like for for per use I think it was it so yeah interesting math girl

Brian Atlasmath all right before we wrap any final thoughts from anybody anything any last topics you guys want to hit on

Naomiuh I'm tired I think I already asked um tomorrow Jasmine Jafar and I are filming another episode of Dos that's not really related I

Brian Atlaslove um what was I going to say thank you for having us two two last questions here cuz I feel like this is important cuz feminism came up

Brian Atlasearlier what is a woman starting with you a soul no like what is the def what is a woman what what is that a soul that's it

Naomithat's my definition okay someone who is biologically female based um or whoever identifies as a woman cuz I

Brian Atlasjust I don't have any yeah so a woman is somebody who identifies as a woman M can you define woman without using the word

Naomiwoman why you why you looking at me that way why do we have to end anything because oh I don't care I just I can't I personally don't have any like issue with the whole trans thing so like

Naomithat's where you're going with this right of like no not even I'm just curious um um I don't really want to go there it's the end of the show yeah that's why that's why I answered the way I did so I just okay okay okay we'll

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)just let that go okay cuz we could just go on for it what she said no no no no no that's what I mean well put it in your own words go ahead somebody who identifies as a woman okay I'm going to say the same thing somebody who

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)identifies as a woman are we talking like literal or figurative I was thinking literal what your person I I don't know what a woman is figuratively but I guess yeah well

Jamill (+ Kira bleed)I'm just going to say yeah uh somebody who identifies as a woman yes somebody who's born biologically female I agree biological female

Briokay so a woman is someone who identifies as a woman can I identify it as a woman yes if you can I this question to the ladies

Briwho said that if someone identifies as a woman then they're a woman how do you feel if you have a daughter and let's say hypothetically she's six and she's going to the bathroom by herself you're

Briwaiting outside oh I don't know if we want to go here no what I know where you're going like there's a I know would you not want to protect your daughter

Briand and ensure that by having gender appropriate bathrooms for biological making sure she doesn't see certain things while she's in the

Bribathroom yes that's just an example that I'm I'm trying to be very why are you waiting outside if us something that you're concerned about yeah yeah I don't think I'd wait outside no matter I think

MariI think biological women can do things too if I'm bringing a child into this world I'm going to make sure they're safe 100% like I'm sorry send like small child into a bathroom by herself okay it doesn't matter the age my point is would

Briwould you not want to protect your your child boy or girl from someone who has ulterior motives and me why are those people in my house in the first place I'm saying in public public no I'm saying in public because anyone can

Briidentify as anything yeah you're right you're right you make a good point that's my only argument is why wouldn't you want to protect children because they're sick-minded people in this world there is sick minded people and I think that it's important and not to disregard

Brihow someone may feel about themselves and how they identify but for the sake of of protecting those that can't protect themselves I think that it's really important to reinforce um bi

Bribiological gender like Norms in society so at what point then are you okay to use a a woman's bathroom if you have female

Naomiparts so if someone looks like a female then they're okay to use it even if they don't have woman parts not necessarily well how would you know I wouldn't know but I'm I'm just no I know and that's not my place to investigate any person

Katiewho walks into the bathroom to make sure like that's not my point wait hold on let me let me bring this back to dating do you do you think never talked about you just had to bring this up like right before this we could talk about this for

Brian Atlashour do we want to be here till 2 in the morning we're going to wrap soon trust me trust me trust me like five minutes just rapping five minutes 5 minutes five minutes five minutes five minutes guys don't worry don't worry relax okay do

Brian Atlasyou think would you okay would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans man's woman preference that's something that comes up in dating think there's

Brian Atlasanything wrong with that do you would you object to that no no oh she got up to the bathroom r no in what context there is no like what do you mean do you

Brian Atlasobject do you think it would be wrong for a guy to not want to date a trans woman I think anybody could date anybody as long as they're not hurting anybody

Brian Atlasyeah you don't don't object so you don't object okay no I don't I don't object to being gay or the LBG that's no no no that's I'm that's not what I'm asking a man doesn't want to date somebody who's

Katietrans because they're trans do you object to that the reason why I asked you contacts because I know you've asked this kind of

Katiequestion before and you ask it would you consider the man gay if he wants to date a we can talk about that you know that's that's kind of the context of why I was asking you to be specific it's the same

Katiepremise of asking like would you feel a type of way if someone didn't want to date you because you're an only fan like I don't care anybody could date anybody if it makes you happy but you have to I

Katiefeel ask a more specific question or have more specific seems pretty specific to me no I don't I don't if you if it makes you happy no I don't object at all

Katieyou don't object to it okay well it's not I don't want it to make me happy I don't want you give it makes the other person happy I don't care anybody could date anybody

Brian Atlasokay all right once they're back I'll ask once the she's back I'll ask the final two questions and then we'll go from there well okay well do you think

Brian Atlasit can be straight for a man to date a transwoman no I you don't want she doesn't want

Brian Atlaspart wow she doesn't want to be part of that conversation do you think it can be straight like is it is it is it straight yeah because that's a

Brian Atlaswoman I disagree but is it a woman what if they have a penis okay I could use a strap on like let's say what the okay I'm just saying like it's the same so if you saw like let's say you just

Brian Atlaslike had a video and it was like it was a dude sing the D of a peen [Music]

Brian Atlasmhm you that could in in what world could that ever be strange

Brian Atlasif it's a woman a woman with a peen sure they're losing it back there uh wait so hold on it can be straight if it looks like a

Katiewoman and that's it's like you're going into it like oh this is a woman yeah no I have a caveat if for example

Katieit's a extremely passing transsexual person so there's man and his partner clearly passes as a female in every sense of the word but she's still fully

Katieintact there's some gray area there I could feel like there's no graya I could feel like he he he may be heterosexually inclined because he likes the femininity that she is presenting

Brihowever I feel like the sex that they're having is homosexual I think you can't argue against biology and you can say you know there's no longer a penis or you know there's fake boobs now or whatever but

Briit's like ultimately it's like the skeletal muscle mass the muscle density the size of the organs the size of the jaw this like you can't detransition or transition sorry you can't transition

BriBeyond certain things the size of a man's hands compared to a woman's hands sure there's more feminine uh aspects of a man sure wait okay well there's also extremely feminine men so

Brian Atlasbiolog just to open it up to them too they weren't here would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman I think I thought I already answered that oh did you yeah she did she Taylor did I

Emmy (+ Taylor/Kira bleed)said no I I'd be like no you have to like no but would you find objection of I wouldn't I think every no one should do something they don't want

Brian Atlasto do okay do you think it could be evidence of some sort of bigotry or transphobia okay um so I guess the

Brian Atlasquestion is though the final question on that is it can it be straight is the question yes I think so it's so by our

Brian Atlasdefinitions Yeah by all definitions by our definitions your definitions of like what a a woman is like how you asked before well so sorry I don't me to speak for you it's not clear to me if it would be straight in that situation though but

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